published Saturday, January 14th, 2012

Supreme Court upholds Christian schools' religious liberty

With alarming frequency, our nation's courts have twisted the meaning of the First Amendment to the Constitution to deny -- rather than guarantee -- religious liberty.

That has been evident in court-ordered removals of voluntarily placed religious symbols from the public square, and even in a federal court ruling that the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance are "unconstitutional."

But the U.S. Supreme Court has now properly upheld the right of churches and religious schools to select their ministers and other religious workers according to the institutions' beliefs, without fear of being sued for discrimination.

At issue was a Lutheran school in Michigan. A teacher there had threatened to sue after being fired in a disability dispute. According to the school, that threat violated the Christian school's teaching that disputes should be settled within the church, not through lawsuits.

Whether one agrees with the school's views on where disputes should be resolved is beside the point. A religious institution has a fundamental right to employ people who uphold its principles.

In most cases, for example, it would be wrong for a private company or organization to refuse to hire women. But if, say, a church teaches that pastors must be male, then it would be outrageous if the church were punished through a discrimination lawsuit for refusing to appoint female pastors. That would force the church to deny its beliefs and would violate the First Amendment's guarantee of the right of "free exercise" of religion.

The Supreme Court was appropriately unanimous in its decision upholding the principle that religious organizations -- not courts -- have the right to set the criteria for hiring their religious workers.

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Of course, by taking this stance, the church in question has shown themselves as un-Christian.

Not surprising though, there are plenty around here who do the same thing. I wonder if Martin Luher would agree with their actions, let alone Jesus about whom there should be no doubt of the position.

Oh well, if Fred Phelps gets away with why he does as a church, this hardly registers.

January 14, 2012 at 12:32 a.m.
conservative said...

My guess is that this decision will preclude the forced hiring of sexual perverts and atheists also. I ascribe this unanimous decision to Divine intervention considering that five Lieberals sit on the court. Although most "churches" are contrary to Scripture, the true churches would have been affected also. Praise GOD!

January 14, 2012 at 9:09 a.m.
librul said...

Hmmmm .. wonder if anyone has ever thought of establishing humanist schools. Now, they could get by only hiring people who followed Ingersoll's maxim: "Hands that help are far better than lips that pray." Oh wait, wouldn't need any help from the courts since there's no inherent discrmination in that approach, is there?

"Christian schools" ... crackhouses for the mind.

January 14, 2012 at 9:13 a.m.
Livn4life said...

and furthermore, librul, if you had your way and the Separation of Church and State was taken to the extreme, there really would not be much of a state. If proponents of the church refused to pony up taxes and support of corrupt organizations led by lies and deceit, where would the state be? If there had been no crackhouses of the mind, you referred to in the past where would the books be or the schools, or the hospitals? But no, the mythology is what it's all about. I hope, no I pray you one day find something to truly believe in.

January 14, 2012 at 11:58 a.m.
librul said...

Furthermore from what? ... "Pony up taxes ????" If only churches paid their share to compensate for services they use! Anyway ... hogwash! If separation of church and state were maintained, as the founders intended, there would be no reference to any god in the pledge of allegiance, no reference to any god on our money, no religious symbols on federal land, no christian decalogiues in courthouses - all of that hokum would be properly relegated to the ubiquitous "houses of worship" where it belongs. Places which continue to proliferate, free of the taxes levied on "we the people" and exempted from most strictures common to other businesses, yet utilizing all the municipal services taxes provide.

Schools would have books as they always have because reasonable people know they need them to convey factual knowledge of the real world - not a crippled version compliant with some crippled world view. No-one had any need for "church schools" during America's greatest period of growth but now that America is in decline, there is a clamor for them. Why, because those who flee from what real education tells them (you know, people who casually deny advance of science and see enemies among people guilty only of being different from them) find solace in their little oases where they don't have to confront their prejudices or accept that what was true for Bronze Age people might need re-evaluation. Unlike people stuck in dogmatic doldrums, I believe in intellectual growth and skeptical examination of the intellectual pablum which monolithic institutions try to feed their faithful. Maybe one day you and the rest will see it for the "soylent green" that it is and get kids on a better diet which can break the sad addiction.

January 14, 2012 at 12:39 p.m.

Conservative, while the decision was unanimous, the opinions in this case indicate an understanding by the justices that the question is not entirely settled.

How long till somebody tries declaring all of their employees are ministers?

January 14, 2012 at 1:59 p.m.
Emersization said...

Hopefully that does not give them a green light to have slavery go on.

January 14, 2012 at 11:43 p.m.
FreedomJournal said...

CAN FREEDOM BE PERSECUTED? (20 June 2009 Carl A. Patton) 16 January 2012: EXCERPT

Greetings Brethren,

In the name of God, Master of the Universe, Ruler of the earth

Peace be unto you. To the Church (as founded by Christ and the Apostles) and believing Christians everywhere. To those that believe in the Bible (the Spirit of God) as the supreme authority that governs all of humankind. In this we give thanks to God the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit that leads and guides us the straightway.

Beloved can anyone really actually deny the Freedom that is rendered to those liberated in Jesus? Just what is Freedom? Freedom is noted as the quality or state of being free. Not being under another’s control. The power to do or say what one pleases; liberty. Freedom of speech, freedom of religion and freedom of the press. As a Free Press (FreedomJournal Press) we have experienced challenges to our Freedom of Religion, Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press. Our Academic Freedoms were also challenged as early as 1971 thus paving the way for a life-long sojourn as a writer with Freedom on our lips that has been guaranteed in Christ. So what is Free? Can Free or Freedom be really defined in the secular world?

Are the people that are Free in Christ the only people that can understand the true meaning of Freedom? For example one does not know the true love of a woman if both are not saved and have Jesus first in their hearts. Well FreedomJournal are you saying one can only know love especially the love of a woman only when they accept Christ as the way to the Father? Therefore a Godly man can only truly love a Godly woman and vice versa. So if Freedom can only be adequately defined and explained in the Spiritual realm can one ever persecute the righteous who know God and are Free?

Meanwhile Freedom to those that believe (those that know God and Christ) is something that exists above any actions of man. Therefore can this Freedom be persecuted? Are the attempts to deny Freedom of Christianity/Freedom of Religion persecution of those that believe? But can the lost deny Freedom that comes from God?

January 16, 2012 at 1:45 p.m.
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