published Saturday, February 2nd, 2013

Make civilian firearms one-shot and other letters to the editors

Make civilian firearms one-shot

My ideas evolve to the most simple. Why not, by legislative process, require firearms manufacturers to produce for civilian purchase only single-shot guns? Military and law enforcement to be excepted. How could that big thunder cloud in the sky, the NRA, not be satisfied with this?

DUDLEY MEADOWS, Signal Mountain


Many editorials seem flippant

As a recent subscriber to the Times Free Press, I was surprised to find two editorial pages with differing viewpoints. The format presents an opportunity for critical analysis in forming one's opinion. However, after six months of subscription, I find the quality of the Free Press editorials perplexing.

Drew Johnson's opinions lack gravitas. He presents them flippantly, as if trying to be clever/artful.

For instance, is obesity really something to celebrate globally or otherwise? What of the positions of the American Medical Association, the Centers for Disease Control or international medical/scientific groups? Should we really mock climate change when most national or international body of science maintains concern about the threat of our altered weather patterns?

Is government really not supposed to "achieve remarkable accomplishments"? I finished my second term on our Birmingham area city council just before moving here, and was very proud of numerous governmental achievements during that time. Should our goal have been mediocrity?

MARY LEE RICE


Mitchell perfect choice for council

My husband and I have known District 2 City Council candidate Jerry Mitchell since we went to elementary school together at St. Jude. He has lived most of his life in this district and has only the best intentions in his decision to serve all residents who live here. Jerry has had remarkable success working in the private sector, negotiating global contracts for international and local companies.

His experience working as the Parks and Recreation director under both Mayors Kinsey and Corker gave him the unique opportunity to help bring those and other city leaders' vision to reality with the expansion of parklands that we now all enjoy, including Dupont Park in Hixson, Champions Club in Lupton City and Coolidge Park. He is extremely committed, honest and fiscally responsible -- a perfect choice for City Council.

Please join us along with two other generations of our family who live in this district as support and vote for Jerry on March 5.

ELLEN AND PAT CROWE


Drop Ladd, elect Smith

Four years ago, Pam Ladd ran a campaign on being a fiscal conservative and advocating for the taxpayers and neighborhoods, but her record and attitude have been anything but. Since taking office, Pam has voted to raise my property taxes 19 percent and my stormwater fees by more than 190 percent while chairing a City Council that has underfunded the needs of our essential services, public safety and road repairs.

Recently, Pam has failed to lead on the Chattanooga Village project -- a key issue in District 3. I'm glad she finally voted "no" on the project, but I can't help but feel hers was a timely political decision to help ensure her re-election among the many of us in District 3 who are opposed to that project.

Until the vote, she had only spoken out in favor of the developer while ignoring the wishes of those of us she was elected to represent.

In contrast, I believe Ken Smith will be a strong advocate for the needs of the taxpayers and neighborhoods. As a long-time businessman and civic leader, Ken has the right experience and knowledge to lead on the key issues. The status quo at City Hall needs to change. Vote for Ken Smith for District 3 City Council representative.

SHARON PEKER, Hixson


Assault weapons' definitions differ

What are assault weapons?

Some in Washington and others would have you believe it is a military weapon. This is true in some cases.

However, when I was in the U.S. Army, I was taught anything I could lay my hand to could be used as an assault weapon.

In the past and recent weeks and months, I have seen in the media people murdered and by other than firearms. So, here is a list of what I consider assault weapons. From sporting goods stores, baseball bats, golf clubs. From hardware stores, crowbars, hatchets, lengths of pipe and chain. Gas stations, a gallon of gas. And then a bar to fill a drunken driver's belly full of beer.

Notice, none of these assault weapons needed gun powder.

KEVIN H. FLEMMINGS, Soddy-Daisy. Tenn.


Inauguration is not 'non-event'

It was so misleading to read the Free Press editorial on the inauguration day.

The article went to great lengths to praise the Lee University students who performed at the event, and noted what a great honor for the students to represent their school and our area in the patriotism of America.

The next editorial showed the patriotic spirit of the editor, by stating the inauguration is an event that some will forget. He goes on to ask "do you care? If you are like most people you have a passing interest in the proceedings. That in itself is about the success of the United States to transfer of power, or in this case the retention of power so unpopular it is almost a non-event."

The editor must not have read the article about the interview with the Lee students themselves after the event.

They were full of pride and had praise for our president and his family, the vice president and Sen. Lamar Alexander. They called it a great patriotic experience. It was a spectacular "non-event."

Speaking of unpopular, Mr. Editor, have you checked the polls lately? President Obama 60 percent approval, Republicans 12 percent approval, or right down there with lice and clogged toilets.

DON MYERS, Hixson


Don't divert funds to buy weapons

Tennessee's state and local governments are moving toward diverting badly needed funds for educating children to the arms industry to increase the number of armed guards called "school resource officers" in all schools.

According to a new NYT/CBS poll, 74 percent of Americans believe that more security guards would help prevent mass shooting in schools. There is no evidence to support that. Rather, it seems to me that this is the way hard-won democracy and freedoms disappear. They aren't taken away; citizens give them away out of fear. Fear is irrational, and no wonder that 74 percent of Americans when frightened want to have armed guards in schools "to protect children."

When frightened and confused, it even makes sense that the more guns around children, the safer from guns children are. But experience, logic and common sense argue against that. Our most recent gun massacre in schools makes that case. A Sandy Hook staff member testifying to Congress described the sound of "hundreds of bullets rocketing through the school." She said, "Make no mistake, if there was a police officer in our building that day, he would be dead."

Adam Lanza did not knock on the door and ask for permission to come in. He shot his way through the door barely seconds after he got out of his car. ... Nobody needs a gun that can kill 26 people and shoot hundreds of rounds of ammunition in three minutes.

FAYE WALTER, Sewanee, Tenn.

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jesse said...

The difference between a "Rifleman" and a "gun crank"is how many rounds his magazine holds!! I no longer own guns BUT back in the day i was an avid chuck shooter!At one time i owned 14 long range rifles and 5 of them were single shots! In deer hunting circles the adage is " one shot ,one deer,two shots ,maybe one deer,three shots, NO deer!" Something i always wanted to do but never did was the Wyoming "one shot pronghorn hunt!"

February 2, 2013 at 4:42 a.m.
jesse said...

Faye Walter You are an idjit!PERIOD! A trained ,experienced ,armed officer in that situation would have saved lives! ignorant,naive,stupid and ill informed idjits posting on stuff they have NO CLUE about just CHAPS my arz!!

February 2, 2013 at 6:25 a.m.
shen said...

Actually, jesse, Faye Walter's is right. There's no evidence that show armed guards at schools will prevent shootings. However, there's been clear evidence that students, and even staff, are much more likely to be witness abuse or become victims themselves of abuse at the hands of armed guards in schools.

Are Americans so naive as to believe that SROs in schools will treat Americs children any better than they treat the average citizen on the street during most minor traffic stops? They won't. Trust me!

February 2, 2013 at 8:33 a.m.
shen said...

In the past and recent weeks and months, I have seen in the media people murdered and by other than firearms. So, here is a list of what I consider assault weapons. From sporting goods stores, baseball bats, golf clubs. From hardware stores, crowbars, hatchets, lengths of pipe and chain. Gas stations, a gallon of gas. And then a bar to fill a drunken driver's belly full of beer. Notice, none of these assault weapons needed gun powder. KEVIN H. FLEMMINGS, Soddy-Daisy. Tenn.

So, Mr. Flemming of Soddy-Daisy TN, are you saying the victims of the Newtown tragedy would have just individually stood around, picking their nails, awaiting their turn to get beaten to death by someone yielding a crowbar? a hatchet, length of pipe or chains? How many mass killings have been committed by a drunken beer guzzler leaving a bar?

Really now. How many mass killings have taken place at the hands of someone yielding those items you mentioned?

February 2, 2013 at 8:43 a.m.
moon4kat said...

Faye Walter makes excellent points in her letter about the proliferation of guns in schools, and our loss of rights.
The NRA's "solution" to gun violence is more guns. That makes no sense, and if we buy into the NRA's vision, we'll soon be living in an armed police state with gun-toting police-wannabes in schools, in movie theaters, in shopping malls, in parks, in churches, on college campuses, in sports arenas, in bars and pool halls, guns everywhere people gather.
What a horror. Yet, that is what the NRA and its supporters envision for America.

February 2, 2013 at 10:59 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

"Nobody needs a gun that can kill 26 people and shoot hundreds of rounds of ammunition in three minutes." - Faye Walter

Oh, but you're wrong, Ms. Walter. Our good ol' boy, all-American hunters and sportsmen, who have taken to calling their semis and automatics "sporting" rifles, need 30-round clips and 100-round drums to shoot holes in things at the target range (it's become the great American pastime, you know). And the hunters need to stay at least one step ahead of those sly, crafty animals who are always coming up with ways to outsmart them and render their single-shot rifles useless - they need all the help they can get. And what backwoods Bubba would dare to have anything less than a room full of AR15s and Glocks with at least 30-round magazines at his disposal - for protection against Obama and his black helicopters, when they come and try to take his guns away?

Get with the program, Ms. Walter. Where do you think you are? One of those wussy countries where those Godless people don't even have a second amendment? This is Amurika, Ms. Walter, and we NEED to be able to shoot holes in things as fast as we can and to riddle our animals with volleys of bullets and to protect ourselves from Obama and his Marxist thugs. If 10,000 people die every year from guns and if little kids and innocent people get killed from psychos in mass shootings every once in a while, well, so be it. That's called freedom. And by gawd in heaven, we want our good ol' boy hunters and sportsmen and backwoods Bubbas to be free, don't we? Amurika - the proud, the free, the insane.

February 2, 2013 at 1:42 p.m.
jesse said...

All you so called Libs that think more gun laws are gonna stop the killing need to take a look at whats going on in Chicago right now! T he most stringent gun laws in the nation ain't even slowin the killing down!! THE ANSWWER is,in part, LOCK up violent offenders forever!NO plea deals, NO parole,One fall and you are goner FOREVER!!

February 2, 2013 at 4:17 p.m.
Lr103 said...

Rickaroo, that is so timely, true and just damn down right funny!!

Here's what President Ronald Reagan had to say during his 78TH birthday celebration when asked by a reporter back in 1989 after a gunman with an AK-47 open fire and sprayed a schoolyard playground full of children and adults with gunfire. Five children were killed amd 30 others were wounded.

I do not believe in taking away the right of the citizen for sporting, for hunting and so forth, or for home defense. But I do believe that an AK-47, a machine gun, is not a sporting weapon or needed for defense of a home.” ---Ronald Reagan February 6, 1989

<p>classicforwards.com & SNOPES

February 2, 2013 at 5:12 p.m.
Lr103 said...

jesse said... THE ANSWWER is,in part, LOCK up violent offenders forever!NO plea deals, NO parole,One fall and you are goner FOREVER!!

And your suggestion would have helped the victims of Sandy Hook HOW? Those weapons were owned by a responsible gun owner. Or so on the surface at least it would seem. And it wasn't the Lanza, the sons, allegedly mental illness that led to the Sandy Hook tragedy, I believe, as much as his actions were influenced by his paranoid mother, the responsible gun owner, who played a very large role in Lanza's actions. A paranoia that can be seen in many of these pro-gun wingnuts.

February 2, 2013 at 5:24 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

Lr103, the wing-nuts cherry-pick from Reagan like the Bible thumpers cherry-pick their Bible. They quote whatever suits their argument and ignore or conveniently discard the rest.

As for jesse's comment: typical half-baked, immature answer. To hell with getting at the root of the problem, that would require actual effort and some serious thought. Let's just deal with the symptoms - more guns and more armed guards, lock up the bad guys and throw away the keys. End of discussion, end of problem. Brilliant.

February 2, 2013 at 7:10 p.m.
Rolmes said...

If you want to know why anyone would "need" a 30 round magazine, here's one example (out of thousands) from Pensecola, Fla in Sep 2009. This was a jackass who killed two police officers in this area and ultimately was stopped by the police. He took 15 verified rounds according to the autopsy report from police fire before shooting himself in the head, and the police fired many more that missed. That's right -- after absorbing 15 rounds he still had enough fight left in him to commit suicide. The real world is not as depicted in the movies. Then you take the recent event where the lady retreated with her children into the ATTIC when she heard an intruder breaking into her house. When he entered the attic, she shot him SIX times and he still was able to get out of the house to attempt escape. One shot my wazoo!!

February 3, 2013 at 5:56 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

Rolmes, your argument is ridiculous. If we follow your line of logic, then we all need to equip ourselves with Bushmasters and at least a 30-round clip because we never know when that invincible criminal might come along or we might not hit with the first one or two or three or four or five or six shots we fire. In the vast majority of cases - probably 99.99% of the time - if a gun is going to serve as any defense or deterrent at all, a simple six-shooter or even a .22 rifle will suffice. If you are so paranoid that you envision all kinds of weird scenarios where you need a semi-automatic with a 30-round magazine for protection, well, I feel for you. It must be awfully scary being stuck inside that paranoid mind of yours.

February 3, 2013 at 2:19 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

The push to ban standard magazines is insane. It is easier to make a 30 round magazine than it is to grow a tomato plant. The left is pursuing an unachievable result that will not help stop mass murder. Rifle magazines are made from plastic, steel, aluminum, or fiberglass. There are 100’s of millions of them in existence in the United States. They are easily made at home. They are just a box with a spring. If you have a few 10 round magazines it is easy to convert them into 30 round magazines. Technology has improved to the point that a person can even print out functional AR-15 magazines at home. 'READ MY LIPS!' They are just simple sheet metal with a spring. Capische? Now that that is settled...shall we talk about enforcing the laws already on the books for gun registration screening? kwo

February 3, 2013 at 5:57 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Oh, BTW, please see my comment regarding the above subject at:

DAVID COOK, Metro Columnist, Editorial

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2013/jan/30/maybe-the-dog-ate-it/?opinioncolumns

kwo

February 3, 2013 at 6:09 p.m.
Easy123 said...

We do try to enforce those laws, however, amendments to those laws make it harder for law enforcement to actually enforce all the laws. Google Tiahrt Amendment. You would already know about this of you weren't such a WingNut hack that only spews Republican talking points/propaganda. It's hard to enforce laws when the NRA is writing amendments to keep you from doing to.

Move on to your next talking point, Ken.

February 3, 2013 at 6:35 p.m.
Lr103 said...

right wing conservative hate talk inspiring these gun nuts?

The below is referring to Jim LeeDykes of Alabama, who shot and killed a school bus driver and took a 5 year old hostage several days ago. Negotiations are still ongoing. He remains held up in an underground bunker with the child. This as Alabama is pushing for even more gun rights.

From ajc.com excerpt:

"Michael Creel said Dykes kept to himself and listened to a lot of conservative talk radio" "He was very into what's going on with the nation and the politics and all the laws being made. The things he didn't agree with, he would ventilate," he said. James Arrington, police chief of the neighboring town of Pinckard, put it differently." ""He's against the government, starting with Obama on down," he said." "Morris Dees of Southern Poverty Law Center in Montgomery, a group that tracks hate crimes, said Dykes was not on the group's radar. "I think he's just a really angry and bitter guy"*

http://www.ajc.com/ap/ap/crime/ala-town-mourns-for-bus-driver-amid-standoff/nWDzQ/

February 3, 2013 at 6:49 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Easy,

It's funny you mentioned Dykes and the hostage situation in Alabama.

Orr and Conservative were the first persons that come to mind as the same type of potential crazy perpetrators.

I'm betting Dykes is a 'good' Christian just like them.

February 3, 2013 at 7:20 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

daytonsdarwin,

Jesus Christ said, "A new commandment (COMMANDMENT) I give unto you, that you love one another." That does not give permission for His followers to harm anyone in any way. You have probably heard the expression 'gentle as a lamb'. I am a lamb of Jesus Christ's possession. He has told me through His Holy Word:

Ephesians 4:31-32

" Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamor, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you."

We have the lawful right to defend ourselves as lambs of God, but not to just harm someone. We would never do that. No, not ever! kwo

February 3, 2013 at 10:32 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

You've told so many lies, Orr. You're not to be trusted — by anyone — for any reason.

http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/

February 3, 2013 at 10:49 p.m.
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