published Saturday, January 5th, 2013

Traffic cameras did a lot of good and other letters to the editors

Traffic cameras did a lot of good

I have lived in Red Bank for about 76 years and can remember when there were no sidewalks. You would step into Bolton's Barber Shop or Morton's Pharmacy from the dirt shoulder of Highway 27. I have seen a lot of change, most good.

I would like to commend a "traffic officer," which won't be with us much longer. "Officer" Traffic Camera monitored three intersections at once. It was on duty 24/7 and never missed a day, and I believe it did a lot of good.

However, a lot of people and the Red Bank City Commission felt otherwise. They say out-of-town customers feared it and wouldn't come into our city to patronize our businesses.

I hope there won't be any reason to regret this move. I believe it was the bypass that hurt our local businesses and potential businesses and not the traffic cameras.

Also I hope that a lot of drivers won't go back to their old habits by speeding up to beat the red light. This can cause terrible consequences. A small aside is the loss of revenue, a million dollars. This isn't a reflection against our fine city officers.

JIM RICE, Red Bank


Read Constitution for real meaning

This is to address two items of socialist/atheist drivel published recently in this paper.

Item No. 1: "... Remember, church and state are separate." Not! Here is the Constitution's entire reference to religion: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." That's it. Read the Constitution. Government can't create a state religion, and it can't keep anyone from praying, etc. in schools. The term "separation of church and state" arose because Thomas Jefferson said the government should keep its mitts off religion.

Item No. 2: "... What is a militia today? It is our National Guard ..." Not! The militia, then as now, is all who value freedom from oppression. "Well regulated" in the 18th century meant being able to maintain, load and fire a musket. The creation of the National Guard did not dissolve the militia today any more than did the presence of the King's Army then. The militia is you and me, the last line of defense against a tyrannical government. The National Guard is merely an extension of the government. Remember, the Second Amendment begins, "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state ..."

FRANK LANDRETH, Spring City, Tenn.


Egypt's democracy not what was hoped

The United States was hopeful that uprise in Egypt would end tyrannical dictatorship, starting a new era of democracy and freedom. The democracy the U.S. advocated seems to be failure and disappointment.

Egyptian tyranny hasn't been eliminated; its form has changed. The new constitution approved. Those opposed are blamed for violation of allegiance toward President Morsi. The opposing minority believes the aim of Morsi is to emulate Islam's first three generation Muslims in Arabia, which is inquest to transform society.

Morsi supporters expect a more strict Islamic society through holy struggle, Jihad, against un-Islamic lifestyle of the citizens, establishing strict role of Sharia for comprehensive understanding and guidance of Islamic life. They believe it is not a choice between democracy and Islam. "What matters is that governess is Islamic and law adheres to Sharia. It should be what comes to us from Allah."

I believe Islamic law limits civil rights and freedom of minorities. Islamic cultural and religious values are designed, dictatorial and repressive. Someday, Egyptians will come around to the American style of democracy. In the meantime, let's hope that Allah will guide them to rule all the citizens of the country with liberty and justice for all.

AMOS TAJ, Ooltewah


Democrats need to stop the insanity

Where are the Truman and JFK Democrats? I know many are dead. But I believe most of my Democrat friends are hard-working Americans with strong moral values. Obama, Pelosi and Reid are leading future generations into debt slavery that is unimaginable!

Our national debt is currently $16.4 trillion and rising at a rate of $4 billion a day. The Federal Reserve is printing money like Monopoly. We can't continue to spend 40 percent more than the tax collected. The rich are paying their fair share -- and more. They are the ones creating the jobs where my Democrat friends work.

Harry Reid has not produced a budget in the Senate since April 2009. Every Obama budget has been unanimously rejected in the Senate. What is their response? Raise the debt ceiling! Where is the mainstream media? Until our Democrat friends stand up and say "It's time to live within our means" to their party, we are doomed. We are at a fiscal and moral cliff! I plead with my Democrat friends to wake up! It's time we hold Republican and Democrat feet to the fire! Stop the insanity.

ANITA KOHLIN, Soddy-Daisy


Don't rezone if there's no demand

In 2009 we fought against the rezoning of land at the edge of our Lake Hills neighborhood for speculative development. Though it was on a smaller scale, our neighborhood association faced the same issues as the neighborhoods that back up to the 190 acres along Highway 153.

The landowner, developer and even City Council members tried to convince us that if we didn't support that development, "something worse" would go in its place. Our opposition continued in order to preserve the character of our neighborhood and our property value.

Those with the power to rezone are obligated to balance the rights of landowners to turn a handsome profit with the rights of the abutting property owners to protect their investment. Rezoning for a future purpose for which there is not current demand is irresponsible, and we're glad the City Council then recognized that reality. Now, we can only hope that they will vote against speculative development again on Jan. 8.

Today, the land in our old neighborhood remains R-1 and the neighborhood stands ready to work with a developer on something that is mutually acceptable and not speculative. Hixson residents seek that opportunity, too.

JEFF STRICKLAND, Hixson


New approach needed for safety

A multipronged approach will be necessary if we are serious in preventing future school massacres. The NICS (National Institute of Criminal Background Check System) needs to be overhauled so that mental-health records find their way into the database. Gun magazine capacity needs to be limited. Bars need to be placed on school room first-floor windows preventing access. All scheduled ingress and egress should be through bullet-resistant doors, similar to those employed on commercial airliners, and should be electronically operated by an individual with real-time video and audio access to the outside.

A single armed security guard should be present at the time of all scheduled door openings. All remaining doors will open outward only after a fire alarm is sounded. If these measures prove inadequate, then it may be necessary once again to follow airline pilot precedent, asking teachers and principals to voluntarily obtain hand gun training and subsequent carry permits. Such individuals would undergo FBI-scrutinized background checks as well as limited psychological testing. Their loaded firearm would remain secured within their desk if not on their person. Handgun trigger combination locks, can be fitted to a revolver handle and can be disengaged in seconds as necessary without need of a key.

MICHAEL JAMES ZEMA

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lkeithlu said...

Government can't create a state religion, and it can't keep anyone from praying, etc. in schools.

Mr. Landreth, by allowing schools to lead kids in prayer they ARE establishing a state religion (the religion of the school's staff and faculty). No one is denying kids the right to pray-kids can pray anytime they like in school. To keep government out of the exercise of religion is to ensure that all Americans have freedom of religion. The ones most unable to understand this are the ones belonging to the majority faith, usually Protestant Evangelical Christian. They are the ones that cannot comprehend what children of other faiths feel like when school officials act as clergy.

Nice ideas, Mr. Zema. Now who is going to pay for it? Schools can't even maintain their facilities nor buy supplies.

January 5, 2013 at 12:36 a.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

FRANK LANDRETH, Spring City, Tenn wrote:"Government can't create a state religion, and it can't keep anyone from praying, etc. in schools. "

So if my kids want to pray in school to Ba'al, Lucifer, The Flying Spaghetti Monster, Christopher Walken (my own personal savior), Ra, Nut, Apollo, Shiva, Coel, and a couple thousand more "gods" that's OK with you? Hey, that's great Frank!

Can we pray to those same "gods" at the County Commission meetings? Gee, that's swell Frank.

How about if we post all these "gods" teachings in the courthouses, swear to them in court, and start putting their names on money, can we do that Frank? We can? Oh boy, you sure are a real constitutionalist, Frank.

What's that Frank? You don't want my kids praying to their "gods" in school? But I thought you said we could? But we can't? Why not?

Oh, I see Frank. It's OK to pray as long as it's your "god" and it's fine to put your "god's" teachings in the courthouse, and it's OK to swear to your "god" in court, and it's OK for your "god" to have created the universe, but we can't mention any other "gods" because it's not your "god" and everybody know that Frank has the market cornered on "god" — is that right Frank?

That's what I thought, Frank.Thanks for clearing up that "separation of church and state" issue. I'm sure that's what Thomas Jefferson had in mind.

Old Tom Jefferson and Old Frank Landreth — constitutional scholars. Praise Christopher Walken — we are saved!

January 5, 2013 at 12:43 a.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Jesus Christ>>>John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, "I am The Way, The Truth, and The Life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me. "

Crowned with being named the First North American Constitution, the Mayflower Compact defined our current United States government. These powerful words from that Constitution read as follows: "...Having undertaken for the Glory of God, and Advancement of the Christian Faith,..." This great foundational document and the building of our sacred government and nation clearly points to Jesus Christ as our Supreme Leader.

Jesus proclaimed that The True Creator God is reached only through Jesus Christ. This United States of America has the wisdom (and right) to disallow all false gods from being recognized as legitimate. We know that to prosper we must go to the source of all blessing...Jesus.

What corporation would invite fraudulent competitors to head up their operations? What corporation would even want them recognized as being legitimate? This would destroy the very fabric of the company.

The United States of America must, through the love of Christ Jesus, stand for the truth. This has made us great to prosper, and, is the only way we can continue as the greatest empire in all of mankind's history.

Ken ORR

January 5, 2013 at 9:32 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

The United States of America is an Empire. Our Supreme Authority is Jesus Christ. The Lord God of Hosts gives every person the right to believe any way they choose. I also, with Christian love, give every person the right to believe any way they choose. I honor the person despite their religious identity as long as they pursue true peace without harm to others. kwo

January 5, 2013 at 9:38 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Orr,

"Crowned with being named the First North American Constitution,"

False

"the Mayflower Compact defined our current United States government."

False.

"These powerful words from that Constitution read as follows:"

It wasn't a "Constitution". You're being purposefully deceitful in using that word.

"This great foundational document and the building of our sacred government and nation clearly points to Jesus Christ as our Supreme Leader."

The Mayflower Compact has zero influence over our government.

"Jesus proclaimed that The True Creator God is reached only through Jesus Christ."

So what?

"This United States of America has the wisdom (and right) to disallow all false gods from being recognized as legitimate."

That's not totally true. But if it was, we should start by disallowing the Christian god and Jesus from being recognized as legitimate. Most thinking people already do so.

"We know that to prosper we must go to the source of all blessing...Jesus."

False.

"The United States of America must, through the love of Christ Jesus, stand for the truth."

"The United States of America must stand for truth". I took the liberty of fixing it for you.

"This has made us great to prosper, and, is the only way we can continue as the greatest empire in all of mankind's history."

Absolutely false.

Never stop posting, Ken. It gives me great joy to point out your deceit, lies, ignorance, etc. You never let me down.

January 5, 2013 at 9:42 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Ken Orr wrote: This United States of America has the wisdom (and right) to disallow all false gods from being recognized as legitimate."

And that's what it did. It prohibited any religion (and any god is a false god) whether Jesus, Jehovah, Ba'al, or my own favorite personal savior Christopher Walken, from being selected as the one true god to the exclusion of all others.

The goal is to keep religious teaching out of the government, out of government schools, and government promotion of religion out of personal lives of citizens, where all gods or no gods can be worshiped, prayed to, or ignored, and in my case, ridiculed as imaginary spooks not of value in a scientific world where reason has replaced superstitions and myths.

P.S. Don't forget to dance every Sunday morning in praise and worship of Christopher Walken, Head Hoofer to the Saints and Holy SNL Host. Loud cowbells are appropriate during the dance. Services begin elevenish with Bloody Marys at The Continental.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCDIYvFmgW8

January 5, 2013 at 9:44 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

I've had to disagree with some of the people who I love most. I choose to 'agree to disagree' with Easy and Darwin. When the presumption is faulty the ergo is also faulty. I disagree with the dissenting presumption. kwo

January 5, 2013 at 9:54 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Orr,

"I choose to 'agree to disagree' with Easy and Darwin."

Just because you're giving up doesn't mean I'll leave you alone.

"When the presumption is faulty the ergo is also faulty."

I don't think you know what "ergo" means.

"I disagree with the dissenting presumption."

That's because you're ignorant, delusional, etc..

January 5, 2013 at 10 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Or, stay home Sunday morning and watch God and Jesus play "Preaching for Dollars" as preachers, pastors, and faith-healers ask for money to carry on God's work of asking for more money, the longest running Ponzi scheme in history.

You'd think that someone like God wouldn't have such a cash-flow problem, but Jehovah has to provide toupees, bling, Cadillacs, jewelery, mansions, jets, radio and TV stations to his humble, starving ministers.

Be sure to let me know if any amputees grow a leg Sunday on those TV shows.

January 5, 2013 at 10:15 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

'Ichabod' means, 'The Glory of God has departed', or, 'The Spirit of The Lord has departed'. Some people will have to experience this. They are the anti-Christs and will not listen. The book of Revelation describes their stubborn rebellion against Jesus:

Revelation 16:8-9

"And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.

And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory."

In Revelation 16:10, they have no choice but to 'gnaw their own blasphemous tounge'.

"And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,

And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds."

Easy, I'm not giving up on You, or, anybody. I just hope that The King of Glory Jesus Christ does not give up on You.

Ken ORR

January 6, 2013 at 5:31 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Orr,

You gave up on intelligence, reason, logic, and truth a long time ago. I choose those over myth, lies, immoral teachings, and falsehoods.

Damn your imaginary god, mythical Jesus, and your immoral holy book to your illusory hell.

January 6, 2013 at 6:07 a.m.
DJHBRAINERD said...

dayton.....You'd think that someone like God wouldn't have such a cash-flow problem....... funny stuff....... reminds me of an old star trek movie where Kirk asks some being acting like a god, "But what does God need with a starship?"..... it never ends. I enjoy the message of peace and love that comes through Christ but the dogma is off the charts. When you read the new Testament it become clear that men are corrupt and go against the very teachings of the one they claim to follow. Want to solve the homeless problem open the church doors at night. Stop building great mansions to worship in and use the money to educate the poor and feed the hungry. Become the least among us by giving all to the good work then gain the glory through grace. Simple put if a man asks any of us for a dollar give it to him. Stop wanting material things, learn to be happy with who you are not what you have and help someone/ anyone with a giving heart. Or you can tell me I'm damned because I ate some BBQ and had a beer the choice is yours.

January 6, 2013 at 6:30 a.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Ken Orr wrote: "They are the anti-Christs and will not listen."

I'm also anti-ignorance, anti-superstitious, and anti-religious Nazis who command allegiance, mental slavery, and unquestionable obedience to imaginary characters including gods, demons, devils, and fanciful saviors (no offense meant Christopher Walken).

January 6, 2013 at 9:37 a.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

from Fox news January 6, 2012 — a report about obesity in churches.

"A 2006 Purdue study found that the fundamental Christians are by far the heaviest of all religious groups led by the Baptists with a 30% obesity rate compared with Jews at 1%, Buddhists and Hindus at 0.7%."

I suggest it's all the great portions of supernatural bovine excrement they swallow. Jehovah and company are junk food for the body and brain.

January 6, 2013 at 1:46 p.m.
conservative said...

Ike, your "Mr. Landreth, by allowing schools to lead kids in prayer they ARE establishing a state religion (the religion of the school's staff and faculty)." is an atheist lie as you well know especially since you are an avowed atheist and a "proud heathen."

January 6, 2013 at 8:12 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Conservative, is there a list of approved gods to pray to in public school? Which gods are your favorites? Rain gods, fire gods, wind gods, sex gods (strike that last one, you don't have sex — sorry, I forgot).

Or is it your little narrow-minded, murderous tribal god, that loathsome deity who loves everyone and then takes special delight in roasting non-believers in His great and holy loving hell?

January 6, 2013 at 8:31 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Just because I am not a believer doesn't make my statement a lie, conservative. You, on the other hand, lie all the time but, hey, it's for Jesus so it's okay, right?

January 6, 2013 at 8:49 p.m.
Easy123 said...

conservative,

Everything you espouse is a lie. Everything Ikeithlu stated is verifiably true.

Sorry, kook. Try again.

January 6, 2013 at 9:29 p.m.
conservative said...

Ike, you did lie. Prayer in school is not establishing a state religion. To say so as you did is an obvious lie.

January 7, 2013 at 6:59 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Yes it is conservative. For children, the authority of the school officials makes the prayers they lead official. Pray to Jesus? That means everyone must be Protestant Christian. Of course, that is EXACTLY what you believe should happen. Convert those nasty little Muslim and Jewish kids, and scare the atheist kids straight.

You are the kind of person that turns others off to religion.

January 7, 2013 at 7:11 a.m.
conservative said...

No it is not and you know it is not. You are paranoid.

"Convert those nasty little Muslim and Jewish kids and scare the atheists kids straight"

I noticed that YOU referred to Muslim and Jewish kids as "nasty" in accordance with your atheist mindset. Also, "kids" are not atheist by nature they have to be taught that by other atheists.

Now to your "You are the kind of person that turns others off to religion"

"You are the kind of person that turns others off to religion"

"You are the kind of person that turns others off to religion"

"You are the kind of person that turns others off to religion"

"You are the kind of person that turns others off to religion"

"You are the kind of person that turns others off to religion"

"You are the kind of person that turns others off to religion"

January 7, 2013 at 9:30 a.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Babies are atheists by nature. Babies are not born knowing about gods, demons, angels, Jesus, and Easter Bunnies. They are taught.

Thankfully, children are now taught to use reason and science to understand the universe, not superstitious, mind-numbing beliefs about gods and talking serpents as real creatures who control their lives.

January 7, 2013 at 10:08 a.m.
Easy123 said...

I once thought it impossible for someone to be as ignorant as conservative. I thought wrong.

Just patent ignorance, blatant stupidity, and overt bigotry. Psychopathy at its worst.

Everything conservative believes is either a lie, illogical, or immoral.

January 7, 2013 at 1:57 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

conservative, your last post damns you. I do not need to add a thing.

January 7, 2013 at 7:42 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Still waiting to hear if just one amputee grew a limb at any of the thousands of faith-healing services yesterday.

Guess God hates amputees for some reason.

January 7, 2013 at 8:50 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

The notion of not re-growing limbs in mammals is very well explained using evolution.

Ooops, my bad....

January 8, 2013 at 6:41 p.m.
conservative said...

Ike, Don'tyou ever get tired of being a "proud heathen?"

January 9, 2013 at 11:12 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Nope. Do you ever get tired of being a judgmental ass?

January 9, 2013 at 12:22 p.m.
conservative said...

I only quoted you.

January 9, 2013 at 5:50 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

You don't need quotes to be identified, conservative. You ARE a judgmental ass.

Just a point of interest: kids ARE atheist by nature. They have to be taught mythology. I noticed that you didn't deny that Muslim and Jewish kids should be converted, not left alone to believe as they were taught by their parents.

January 9, 2013 at 6:27 p.m.
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