published Friday, March 8th, 2013

5-at-10: Friday mailbag

Gang, it's been a full week. Not sure if it was a true Jimmy V full week, where we laughed we cried and we thought, as he famously extolled us to do 20 years ago last Monday.

Still it was a full week.

For those of you that sent bubble questions about your team, well, we'll cover that first and expand on some primer stuff. And since we had a near-record number of questions this week, we're going to try to get to 10 with quicker answers.

Deal? Deal.

From the "Talks too much" studios, six minutes, six minutes, six minutes Dougie Fresh and you're on...

From a slew of folks,

Are the Vols in the tournament? Thanks, and you are (cocky, hilarious, talkative, and fill in the blank with a slew of adjectives).


After bubble-straining losses for Kentucky and Virginia last night, the Vols look better.

We think, if the selection was today at lunch at Wally's on McCallie, we would be there. MA MEATLOAF! We also think UT would be in. We thought that before Thursday's upsets and we think it more strongly as of this moment.

That said, we believe UT must win Saturday against Missouri and must win at least one SEC tournament game (and winning two would make next Sunday even more relaxing).

A loss Saturday at home against Missouri would be painful. So too would be a couple to three upsets in the smaller conference tournaments that have already started. Case in point, if MTSU doesn't win the Sun Belt tournament, that's likely an at-large bid for the Blue Raiders that would have gone to a bigger bubble program.

Finally, thanks for the kind to comical to critical words you folks used to describe the 5-at-10. We're happy with where this little venture is and where it's headed, and the interest and the growing numbers of folks reading the 5-at-10 is flattering. Plus, the more folks sharing ideas, the better we'll be as a family-oriented, interweb-based sports column. We're a think tank of sorts based in sports and silliness and entertainment and exchanges. And hold that think tank idea, which brings us to...


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    Butch Jones will begin his first spring practice at Tennessee with a lot of opportunities for players to fill holes.
    Photo by Patrick Smith /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

From Steeler Fan

Hey Jay,

I've been studying Butch Jones' hair in photos in the TFP. Correct me if I'm wrong but it appears the new UT football coach has come up with a unique hairstyle — a modified burr cut that he (strangely) parts in the middle. I guess, for lack of a better term, you'd call it the Butch-burr-butt-cut. Do you think this will become a fad? Anyway, it got me thinking about bad hair in sports through the years. Using your keen observational skills, could you please instruct me on the worst 10 haircuts in sports through the years.

Also, on a related topic, do you think Chia Helmets would cut down on head injuries in the NFL. (I also got this idea from Butch Jones' head.)

Steeler Fan,

Thanks, and we'll take the second part first. We're not sure whether Chia Helmets would cut down on head injuries. But if players are participating in a bounty system to see who gets to wear the Chia Helmet, Roger Goodell is going to waterboard some one. In fact, here's saying Goodell is so sick of hearing about "Bountys" he even changed paper towels and punches anyone he sees wearing red flannel.

And if Butch Jones wins consistently in the SEC, here's saying the Butch-Burr-Butt cut will be a hit across the state. (We said the same thing about orange pants three years ago too and we saw how that played out. Anyone want to buy some orange pants?)

As for the worst hair in sports, well, sweet bucks of Pert and hair product, did we waste too much time on this one or what? You know we did.

We're going to move quickly here and try to get to a complete 10.

Raiders owner Mark Davis — This would be an awful haircut without the obvious comparisons to Lloyd from Dumb and Dumber. With those comparisons, though, the hair choice is simply the dumbest.

Former baseball star Oscar Gamble — We're not sure whether to be in awe of Gamble's 'Fro, to fear the 'Fro or wonder if he has PB-J sammich up in there. Picture it. It's a slow game and Gamble's in the outfield and his stomach starts rumbling. He pulls out a Snickers, or a plate of hot wings or a 12-pack of Bud Light from the Fro and he's the envy of everyone.

Former Florida basketball star and NBA journeyman Dwayne Schintzius — This was more than a haircut. This was a decision and fashion statement. And neither of them was good.

Australian darts ace Simon Whitlock — There are rednecks across the 5-at-10 readership area who just said, "Sweet!"

Hockey Hall of Famer Jaromir Jagr — That is a internationally renowned mullett.

Former Oklahoma All-American and Seattle Seahawks linebacker Brian Bosworth — Dude gets special points as the Thomas Edison of the guys who cut things — words, designs, what have you — into their hair-do.

Tennis great Andre Agassi — he pulled off the rare double of going crazy-80s and then preemptive bald. He may be the Bo Jackson of this category.

Former Illinois coach Lou Henson — who had a section of followers known as Lou's 'Do. If your hair has a fan section, your hair has arrived. Stay thirsty my friends.

Basketball journeyman Drew Gooden's reverse soul patch — If the hair decision looks like an absent-minded barber just forgot about part of your hair, it's a mistake.

Soccer great Carlos Valderamma — the international soccer cartel of hair debacles could occupy our day and have its own top 10. Let's just pick Carlos — who has the look of one of those pencil cappers that the girls in high school used with the crazy hair when you spin them — and know like a true soccer ace, he did not use his hands when fixing his hair.


From several folks

If Dennis Rodman is doing international diplomacy, what's the Rushmore of worst sports stars to send to negotiate the United States' interests around the globe?


Such a good question. And is anyone surprised after Rodman's trip to North Korea, they are now talking about using nuclear weapons on the U.S.? Seriously, who thought The Worm could work this out? And before we go any further, gang, this isinternational diplomacy, not a real-life science experiment about sleeping in a Holiday Inn Express last night. Rodman, an ambassador? Puh-lease. Is T.O. going to perform brain surgery next? How about Roger Clemens arguing before Congress... Oh wait.

OK, let's pick up the pace.

Our negative Rushmore of bad choices for former athletes as diplomats:

Mike Tyson, the former heavyweight champ with the boss face tat (It would be even worse if we sent Iron Mike to a certain country he famously marred with his great malaprop: "I'm going to knock him into Bolivia." Good times.)

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    Lance Armstrong speaks during the opening session of the Livestrong Global Cancer Summit in Dublin, Ireland.
    Photo by Associated Press /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

Lance Armstrong, the international liar, especially to any country in Europe.

O.J. Simpson. Although there would a certain steely-ness to his words.

Ward Burton. The former NASCAR driver from Virginia who has the strangest hyrbid Boston/redneck accent ever. Heck, country folks can't understand his version of English, you think it's going to translate to the Chinese?

A bonus one — former Reds owner Marge Schott as an envoy to Israel. Schott of course, before dying in 2004, went on and on in an S.I. interview about the good things Hitler accomplished. OUCH-standing


From Eustice_Chase

Paul Bearer ranks right at the top of the list as Great Pro Wrestling managers...who do you have at the top of your list?

EC —

Good to have back one of the OGs of the 5-at-10. Holla.

That said, we're not much into the recent wrestling scene. In fact, we missed most of the wrestling action since the early 1990s. So, in some ways our answers are going to be skewed to what we know. (Not unlike the old guy that argues Johnny U. is better than Brady or Manning. It's his time and he loves his guys. So it goes.)

With special tip of the caps to Classy Freddie Blassie, Paul Bearer (R.I.P.) and several others, here's who we got:

  1. Miss Elizabeth — granted she was not a traditional manager, but she was the Jackie Robinson of wrestling eye candy.
  2. J.J. Dillon — was a big part in assembling and managing the Four Horsemen. Whoa!
  3. Jim Cornette — guy was perfect combo of obnoxious and smarmy
  4. Jimmy Hart — His megaphone may be on the old-school Rushmore of wrestling props with Hacksaw Jim Duggan's 2x4, Hulk's bandana and Mr. Wrestling II's mask
  5. Bobby "The Brain" Heenan — dude is the Babe Ruth of this category


From Mocs Guy


I have kind of a problem. I want the Mocs to win the SoCon tournament this week -- I always want them to win.

But let's say some thing magical happens and UTC runs the table in Asheville. It would be great, right?

Would John Shulman get an extension?

Wow, this is a dilemma, huh?

Mocs Guy,

We see your situation. And let's lay out the facts:

If the Mocs win the Southern Conference tournament, which starts today, UTC would play in Dayton in a play-in game.

It would be a crazy and wild four days in Asheville to be sure.

It would also mean an almost certain extension for coach John Shulman. Despite the sagging attendance numbers — which we believe will be the decisive straw for the next AD when looking at John's body of work — any mid-major team would be tickled to have a guy who has three NCAA tournament trips in less than a decade. If you fire that guy, who is going to take this job with any type of good faith in regard to expectations and reality?

Now, where you and your UTC brethren would cheer against the Mocs in a potential SoCon title game to guard against a Shulman extension is another discussion entirely, and one that would likely strain some emotional bonds and the ethical boundaries of fandom.

We asked one of the guys whose UTC opinion we respect his point on this and without attribution, and he agreed with our assessment, adding "I'm not arguing about whether or not he'd deserve one, just the way the business side of things would almost have to work on this front."

Either way, this feels a lot like debating whether a dragon or a unicorn would be the most popular attraction at the Chattanooga Zoo.


From Sportsfan

Jay - a somewhat off the wall question for the Friday mailbag and SportTalk's Racing Hour next Wednesday with Ken from the Moparosa...after the crash during the Nationwide race at Daytona, I've been wondering if the "blame" (if that's the right word) could be placed on NASCAR? Seems to me that NASCAR requiring restrictor plates at places like Daytona and Dega, creates pack racing which in turn causes the big crashes, which impacted race fans dramatically two weeks ago. Driver's assume the risk when they get in the car and get on the track. Fans shouldn't be at risk. Would eliminating restrictor plates make it safer for the fans by spreading out the field on the track (reducing the potential for the "big one")? With the HANS device and the safety barriers on the track, the drivers are more protected now. Just wondering...


Would love to hear Ken Meredith and the SportTalk guys kick this around. For those that are interested — Ken Meredith joins Quake, Dr. B (he's a doctor after all) and Cowboy Joe for the NASCAR hour Wednesdays from 6-7 on 102.3. It's good stuff.

That's an interesting question, especially legally. Although we'd be remiss not to mention on the front end that on every ticket we've ever seen, there is a caveat emptor disclamor.

That said, you're right that fans shouldn't be at risk. But a chicken and the egg version of that is, if there is no governance of the rules of these cars, the big money teams will dominate, meaning there's only a handful of contenders. If the fields narrow, so do the crowds (ask Indy Car racing).

So while the fans should never be at risk, if the absence of rules means the absence of fans, can there be fan risk if there are no fans.

The last segment was brought to you by "Deep Thoughts" with Jack Handy. "If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason."


From Blue Raider

In the last week, you have talked about the Dukes of Hazzard and Smokey in the Bandit in either in your column on on Sports Talk. (By the way, you guys were hilarious on the radio this week. Good stuff.)

Any way. I have two questions -- How big a redneck are you? And who wins a race between The Bandit's Trans Am and the General Lee?

Thanks and the 5-at-10 is a regular part of my day.

Blue Raider,

Such a great week of questions. Gang, take a bow. And no we're not that big of a redneck since we quit dipping Copenhagen. (And yes, the 10-percent dip in Copenhagen's stock prices may be a direct result of our decision.)

Here's our top 10 after TV/movie qualifying (sorry, we're not up on the Fast and Furious series):

  1. KIT from Knightrider
  2. Dr. Brown's Back to the Future Delorean (although the 1.21 jigawatt flux capacitor would fail post-race inspection)
  3. Mad Max's Ford Falcon
  4. Bandit's Trans Am
  5. The General Lee
  6. Starsky and Hutch's Gran Torino
  7. The Ferrari Ferris Bueller swipes from Cameron Fry's dad
  8. James Bond's ride
  9. Magnum PI's ride
  10. The Family Truckster from Clark and the Griswolds

Just on the outside looking in: The car in Grease; Tom Slick's Thunderbolt Grease Slapper; The A-Team van; and the Porsche Joel Goodman drowned in Risky Business.

Great question.


From ordinaryguy

I am curious to your opinion on the minor although loud outrage in falconville over Matt Ryan's potential new contract?

OG —

Nothing to see here.

The Falcons will get this done. In fact, we can see Ryan taking a discount to keep good talent around him.

In fact, the Falcons should make this happen sooner rather than later. Think of it this way: If Ryan negotiates without a Super Bowl title, he's not in the best bargaining position. Plus, if he is without a Super Bowl ring, he'll be more motivated to take less to insure he has the most talent around him.


That said, the Falcons can't let him go. The NFL is a QB league and the dearth of QBs out there is striking.


From ATL fan

If you were Tommy D., what would be the Falcons biggest priorities when free agency starts next week?

ATL Fan,

IUf we were Tommy D., we'd have our head on a swivel after whacking Billy Batts.

As for the Falcons GM Tommy D., look for the Falcons to add a cornerback, and there are a lot of them on the market. In fact a guy like a Sean Smith from Miami will make good sense (and good cents) since the top end of the market is going to be flooded. It's a good time to shop for a corner because if there are five superstars out there, you can get a very good player at cut rate prices. (The reverse is the QB market, where the lack of real talent means mediocre players will get real talent money.)

Also, the Falcons will need to address the running back situation. Whether it's Stephen Jackson or even breaking the bank for Reggie Bush or hoping an Eddie Lacy or the best back available is there in the draft.

Of course, job No. 1 is talking Tony Gonzalez into coming back. And we believe that will happen.


From Stewwie

Flacco has been underrated for a while and he picked a good time to win a Super Bowl. But does that mean he should get the most money? I guess only if the Ravens were willing to pay it. But is Flacco even a top-5 QB in the league right now? Possibly. Along with the Mannings, Rodgers, and Brees. (Sorry, Brady. You've been FlaccOwned 2 years in a row.) Jay, who is your top-5 QBs in the league right now?

Stewwie —

Fair point about Joe Flacco being underrated.

Not a fair point about Brady not being in the top five because of losing to Flacco. (And since we have Brady on our Rushmore of all-time QBs, he's going to make our top 5).

Here's our top five — Brady, Peyton Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Eli Manning.

But it's amazing the rise in Flacco's reputation because Rahim Moore miss played a Hail Mary, because we wrestled with putting Flacco fifth and can see a hard argument for him as the top guy in the next group.

That said, and we're interested in everyone's view on this, if the NFL blew up every organization and redrafted everyone, here's how we think the top of the draft board would look considering age and future and all the rest:

1) Aaron Rodgers

2) Andrew Luck


4) Brady

5) Calvin Johnson

Gang, great questions, and please feel free to chime in on any and all of these topics. (We know OG is got something to say about the 'rassling managers.)

about Jay Greeson...

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chas9 said...

If The Wildcats could've hit either free throws or threes, they'd have won. But that's not who they are and they could've played smarter and harder, too.

It's easy to say as I did while watching the game that Kentucky doesn't deserve an invitation to the prom. But home teams are dominating this year and Gawga has turned into a good team. Using UGA as a measuring stick, KY and TN are about equally deserving.

Jerry Palm still has both among the last four in, but both UK and UT need W's Saturday. Florida's only 5-3 on the road, so a solid Cats' effort could do it, and The Vols can definitely do it. For what it's worth, Mark Fox says both teams would be feared tourney opponents.

March 8, 2013 at 11:03 a.m.
ordinaryguy said... much as it pains me I must give big kudos to doogie for his column today...I have long been a advocate of bigger high schools...orlando is the perfect example...I lived there for many years and had I stayed my now grown children would have attended west orange hs with a student body of over 3,000...most public schools there are well over 2500 students...for instance instead of building east hamilton why wasnt just one school built and close ooltewah, tyner, and perhaps central...would have been around a 3500 student body..or close hixson, soddy daisy, and sale creek and build one school...doogie is right on target there are far far too many high schools for a town the size of chattanooga...

as for rasslin are spot on with miss elizabeth, jim cornett, bobby the brain, and jj dillon...never was a big jimmy hart person, would replace him with baby doll from the old georgia championship wrestling days

March 8, 2013 at 11:08 a.m.
jgreeson said...

From friend of the show StuckinKent

I don't think there is any doubt that I root for the Mocs to win the tournament. I just can't bring myself to root against them, no matter what.....

The Bubble did soften some on Thursday (Louisiana Tech lost, severely damaging their chances of getting an at-large, possibly fatally, and Massachusetts lost, which hurt their resume a lot too- you already mentioned Kentucky and Virginia). But it almost always hardens some during Championship Week. The Vols don't HAVE to beat Missouri to get in, but a win would probably put them pretty close. A win or two in the SEC Tournament would all but wrap it up. A win over Missouri combined with an Ole Miss loss to LSU, Kentucky loss to Florida, and an Alabama loss to Georgia would leave the SEC with a messy five way tie for second that I don't even know how they would break it. That being said, if the Vols need a win or two in the SEC Tournament, what seed do you want? I think you want the five seed. A four seed would mean a double bye, and then having to beat likely the five seed in the quarters with Florida in the semis. A five seed means the winner of 12/13, then the four, before Florida in the semis. A six may be better. Face the 11/14 then the three seed, then the 2/7/10 in the semis. With the SEC this year, not bad. I think the 5 is better, because there is a big difference between the 11 and the 12/13/14 this year. The best first match-up is the 12/13 winner.

March 8, 2013 at 11:39 a.m.
chas9 said...

Gator Schintzius is seared into our retinas, and current UF guard Wilbekin's do is memorable, too.

Stuckey's right about how arbitrarily tricky the SEC seeds are this time. You don't know whether to win or lose.

USA Today claims that 16 of the 17 arguable bubble teams (including UT and UK) lost at least once in the last week, so nobody loses much ground. But the tourney loses lustre.

March 8, 2013 at 1:04 p.m.
chas9 said...

Demon Deacons fans have taken out a newspaper ad urging the firing of their coach whose name is harder to spell than Schintzius or Wojo.

March 8, 2013 at 2:15 p.m.
jgreeson said...

9er —

Tough loss for the Cats last night.

Fair point about how a large portion of the bubble lingerers have limped to the finish. This is the first time we can ever recall thinking this, but....

Maybe 68 is too many teams. Normally we'd think there the tournament is filled with mostly extraordinary teams; this year's the majority of the clubs invited are pretty much ordinary-ordinary.

OG —

Orlando is a fair example. So is Cobb County just north of Atlanta. There are roughly 15-18 public high schools, and all of them are bigger than the biggest school in our coverage area.

Stuck —

When you get rolling on your projections and match-ups, our first thought is...

  • Dude knows his hoops.

Our second though is....

  • We think he sunk our Battleship.

— 5-at-10

March 8, 2013 at 2:22 p.m.
Huesmania said...

Rather than discuss the Mocs' chances of winning in Asheville this weekend, I'll take you up on your other (more reasonable) debate...

Clearly the dragon is going to be the bigger draw at the Zoo. Clearly. They are a giant green fireworks show. Nothing beats dragon. Ever.

Plus, let's face it. When you get past the horn, a unicorn is just a horse. And, unless you REALLY are into horns, who is honestly trying to pay to see a horse? Nobody. That's who.

Go Mocs, I guess?

March 8, 2013 at 2:23 p.m.
fechancellor said...

There's nothing wrong with Rodman's trip to the Hermit Kingdom. Nothing will come of it except the after shocks of a dinner of Korean Beef and kimchi washed down with daddy Mr. Kim's Hennessy.

Rodman's better than the decided Red bunch who go around kissing Commie bums such as Hugo Chavez's. Prominent American citizens such as Danny Glover, Sean Penn Harry Belefonte and more--who decide to get personally involved. If there's a socialist to communinist the oft meddling Jimmah "I can't get no money for the Carter Center from US Donors" Carter will certify it.

March 8, 2013 at 2:47 p.m.
jgreeson said...

Huesmania —

Your logic is 100-percent pure. Well-played sir, well-played indeed.

Although the insurance waiver folks would have to sign to get into to see said dragon would need to get through the folks at Berke, Berke and Berke.

FE to the C —

Sean Penn is barely a U.S. citizen. In fact, if not for Spicoli and his turn in Mystic River, he could take his bellyaching across either pond for our money. So it goes.

FE, as for your comment late Thursday, you are 100 percent correct. While the 5-at-10 waits for no man, we wait for a woman. And sweet ticks of a Timex do we wait for two tots under the age of 6.


And senator.... love the suit.

March 8, 2013 at 2:54 p.m.
jgreeson said...

From friend of the show StuckinKent —

Every year of 68 teams I've felt like the tourney was too big....And VCU got one of those bids one year and went to the Final Four. Oh well.

Imagine what it would be like with 96 like some people wanted just a few years ago? Georgia would be in the at-large discussion right now. Davidson would be a lock right now. Every team on the bubble would be a lock. Wow. That's not a pretty sight.

Love college football and college basketball and could go on for days about either one, which causes me to be full of useless information about the two that gets me nowhere in my current job. (Quick- who is the Kansas coach with the worst overall record in his time at Kansas?) Love baseball too, but have to sneakily follow that- after football and basketball, the wife is ready for a break from ball for a while. She's a good sport during football and basketball season, so I give in a bit. I watch scores and late night Baseball Tonight after she goes to bed. She loves watching a golf major and enjoys a big time football or basketball game, but does not like baseball (although she loved going to the UK baseball game we went to last year).

(Answer to the trivia- James Naismith, the inventor of the game....strange but true.)

March 8, 2013 at 2:58 p.m.
LaughingBoy said...

Combining some of the areas into town into megaschools would cause a mass exodus of students into private schools, home school, and other counties/Georgia. Zoning shakeups cause enough problems and that's nothing compared to what's being suggested in the Hargis column. Is that wrong of parents, probably, but it would happen.

I don't see the big deal about having to compete in the highest class especially when there are only a couple of county schools at that level. Win a state whether it's single A or double AA and don't worry so much about what the Riverdales and Maryvilles are doing. Try to be like them but don't worry about surpassing them unless they're in your division. South Pittsburg isn't upset about Maryville dominating the largest class.

Mocs mens basketball just tires me out, the same way Mocs football used to do.

Some more qualifiers: Carradine/Frankenstein's pedestrian smasher in the original Death Race, the Ghostbuster car (who could forget that wailing siren), the Scooby Doo van, the Batmobile, Fred Flinstone's foot-powered car, and showing my age, a ton more from "Wacky Races".

March 8, 2013 at 3:05 p.m.
chas9 said...

Let's go back to 64. I like neat brackets.

Stuckey--UK baseball is solid.

March 8, 2013 at 3:11 p.m.
jgreeson said...

Stuck —

VCU will forever be the sticking point for expanding the tournament, but that bunch was such an outlier.

So it goes.

The only way going to 96 would be a good thing is if it meant the regular season champ and the tournament champ each got bids.

Laughter —

Rezoning and shake-ups would most definitely cause a stir. And we completely concur with what you said on your post on Hargis' column that none of the decisions should be motivated by athletics.

Maybe it's cyclical. Maybe it's too many small-to-medium sized schools. Maybe it's the exodus of players to other schools.

And your point of the shake-up by the example proving the claim. How many private schools of note are there in Murfreesboro or Knoxville? Other than Knox Catholic and maybe one or two more, we can't think of any.

Here, think of the in-county kids at Boyd, CCS, Notre Dame —not to mention Baylor and McCallie — and all the smaller private schools.

The Batmobile would surely make the qualifying top 10.

March 8, 2013 at 3:14 p.m.
LaughingBoy said...

It isn't an easy morning drive with the traffic but there are a load of Rutherford County students going to private schools in Davidson and Williamson counties. Corn Elder is a great example. Knoxville I'm not as familiar with but several of the area systems and their schools have been rated highly and/or are suburban, somewhat away from so called problem schools and areas.

My main point, while I'm thinking of more movie and TV cars, it's not a bad thing to have a lack of the largest class schools. Do your best whether in Division I or II at the level you're placed in. National rankings and statewide acclaim may not be attained but you still can achieve to your potential.

March 8, 2013 at 3:19 p.m.
Stewwie said...

[It would also mean an almost certain extension for coach John Shulman.]

Deservedly so if the Mocs win the tourney, but it might be awkward in that Laura Herron won’t make any promises to Shulman, and the new AD (whenever he comes) will have to decide quick on how to proceed with that. And how would the fans react?

[Despite the sagging attendance numbers — which we believe will be the decisive straw for the next AD when looking at John's body of work — any mid-major team would be tickled to have a guy who has three NCAA tournament trips in less than a decade.]

Absolutely. I’d like to hear your thoughts on the Shulman situation next week after the tourney. What should UTC do (keep or fire), and what should Shulman do (stay or try to take another job).

[If you fire that guy, who is going to take this job with any type of good faith in regard to expectations and reality?]

Exactly. Especially at this level.

[Not a fair point about Brady not being in the top five because of losing to Flacco. (And since we have Brady on our Rushmore of all-time QBs, he's going to make our top 5).]

I was thinking more of a QB power poll (a what-have-you-done-for-me-lately) when I said top 5 QBs right now, not the greatest QBs of all time who are active. I think that Brady is hurting his legacy for each year that he continues to play. Plus, no Super Bowl wins since Spygate. Coincidence?

[But it's amazing the rise in Flacco's reputation because Rahim Moore miss played a Hail Mary, because we wrestled with putting Flacco fifth and can see a hard argument for him as the top guy in the next group.]

Brady benefited greatly from a freak play as well (the Tuck Rule) en route to his first Super Bowl win.

Brady at #4 in the re-draft??? Dude is 35!! He’s headed downhill.

March 8, 2013 at 3:28 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

Other great wrestling managers:

Mr. Fuji. "Mr. Fuji have sick mind" he used to say of himself.


Francine (from ECW).

Joel Gertner (also from ECW).

Now, they're not in the class of say, Jim Cornette (love the tennis racket prop), James J. Dillon, Jimmy Hart and certainly Bobby "The Brain" Heenan. But they all had their own sense of style.

As for bad athlete hair, former Knicks forward/thug Anthony Mason had some interesting 'dos. I also submit Joakim Noah to the list.

5, you may not be old enough to remember Steve McQueen's car in the movie "Bullitt." And I'd also submit the car from "Route 66." And the T-top Camaro from Ron Johnson of Pacific Stereo in "Fast Times at Ridgemont High." And how about the car Jefferson ("I thought he flew in for games") had that Spicoli and Jefferson's little brother took for a joyride?

Bad athlete choices for diplomats? Well, we could go all Latrell Sprewell on this. But I also would consider Kellen Winslow Jr., if anyone remembers K2's postgame rant one day while at ... the U. ("I'm a soldier! A (bleepin) soldier!") Note to K2 - no, you're not a soldier. I know plenty of honest to goodness, real, been in a foxhole or a slit trench or a house in firefight soldiers, and you ain't one of them. You're barely still a professional football player.

March 8, 2013 at 3:29 p.m.
jgreeson said...

Laughter —


Stewwie —

We can toss around John's future next week for sure.

As for the Brady legacy, we'd say it's hurting Belichick's legacy more than Brady's. Brady, while he was average in the AFC title game this year, was excellent in his two Super Bowl losses. His defense just couldn't get a stop.

Fair point about the Tuck Rule game, but that was a karmic wash with David Tyree's helmet catch in the Super Bowl a few years ago.

And No. 4 overall may be high, but we'd take five years of Brady over 10 years of Flacco. That said, No. 4 is much too high when you still have a slew of guys in their 20s out there.

Serious question: Do you think Flacco is better than Ryan? Is Flacco better than Romo?

Discuss. Great debate this week, that makes it fun.

Spy —

We remember that rant well. It was after a game against the Vols.

Although we think KWII was using a little known definition of the antiquated words SOUL-GER, a French word meaning goof ball. So the translation would be, "I am a Goof Ball... a (bleepin') Goof Ball."

See how much clearer that is?

March 8, 2013 at 3:41 p.m.
LaughingBoy said...

Steve McQueen, absolutely. And I left out Kurt Russell's stuntcar in Tarantino's Death Proof, with the woman riding on the hood for a good 10 minutes.

And who could forget Precious Paul Ellering with his Legion of Doom?

March 8, 2013 at 3:57 p.m.
Stewwie said...

[Serious question: Do you think Flacco is better than Ryan? Is Flacco better than Romo?]

Yes and yes. Ryan is on his way up though. Romo seems destined to be good but not great.

Indeed it's been a fun debate.

March 8, 2013 at 4:44 p.m.
biff_loman said...

adios, Shulman!

March 8, 2013 at 11:27 p.m.
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