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I can only imagine what Tennessee will be like with a Republican governor, and predominately repbuiclan legislature. It will be all about guns, anti gay from 2010 to 2014.
Username: aae1049 | On:
June 28, 2009 at 11:02 a.m.
Moonpie correctly points out that these kind of scandals are a pox on both houses, but the point of this cartoon (as I see it) is the hypocrisy of pious Republican politicians.
A large faction within the GOP seems completely obsessed with promoting the virtues of family values and sexual morality. They relish attacking other elected officials for personal transgressions and try to force their own strict religiosity on the population at large. Over the past 30 years, the GOP has taken biblical law, and made it the party's legislative priority.
So, when one of this flock strays, when one of these arbiters of morality is exposed as a charlatan, it certainly makes the entire Republican Party sound like it's preaching a hollow sermon
Username: OllieH | On:
June 28, 2009 at 11:20 a.m.
ae1049 you are correct....but let's not forget about the Tennessee GOP racist views...now I do believe we have them covered on all sides of their party.
Username: franksmith | On:
June 28, 2009 at 12:03 p.m.
The media over here in Germany was a bit slow to pick up on the Sanford story, but as soon as I heard about it I knew that I'd have to take a look at Bennett's latest cartoon. And bingo - the man did it again! This is the ultimate comment on Republican bigotry. Keep 'em coming, Clay!
Clay, today's cartoon is 'moving' on two levels. On one hand I want to LMAO, as the "texters" might type it, while on the other hand I can only wring my hands in disgust as another pious-type 'bites the dust'. It's no sin to be human, in fact if taken quite literally, I am sure the Bible points out that being human is likely sinning in and of itself. No, I am not a Bible scholar, but I am smart enough to know that when someone (regardless of political or religious persuasion) berates others too often, and often louder and louder as they go, it is more often than not a ploy to seemingly divert the focus off of themselves and what they hope to get away with. Again, it is no sin to be human. It is a sin, however, not to admit your wrong and seek the forgiveness from those you have wronged. Of course, offering forgiveness to others who have also done wrong wouldn't hurt. At least, that is the way I would expect a Bible scholar would feel about it all. Thank you for your time and attention, Woody
The guns, anti gay, is a proven legislative fact, simpy search the legislative web site under, guns, and embeded in adoption law, family law, and marriage, you will find embeded laws intended to stack the deck against same sex realtionships in all regards.
-- Those who admit to being Democrat are decreasing [down to 28% and falling], -- Those who admit to being Republican are increasing [up to over 40% and rising], and -- Those who admit to being Independent are rising fastest of all.
Gee...I wonder why? Perhaps its initials are "Dear Leader" and his true politics are starting to show. Prematurely. Which shows his stupidity and overconfidence; as we all know, most politicians -- the smarter ones -- wait until their last term to do that...
Username: rolando | On:
June 28, 2009 at 2:03 p.m.
You listed only a few of the reasons concerned people are bailing from the democrat party...the same reasons I remain a conservative.
Did you see where our state legislature has passed [or introduced] a bill stating that firearms 100% manufactured in Tennessee are not subject to federal regulation since they do not enter into interstate commerce. That makes us the third or fourth state to do that...it will make an interesting SCOTUS case.
Username: rolando | On:
June 28, 2009 at 5:28 p.m.
"Those who admit to being Independent are rising fastest of all."
That is the only opinion poll "fact" that I can accept unverified.
As we agree, Rolando, with so much information available on the internet to so many voters, traditional GOP and DNC politicians are falling behind, the ground cut from beneath their feet by too many people knowing too much.
President Obama is an interesting example of someone who knew how to play the new game, but now seems to be struggling.
Where did you pull the rest of the data from, Rolando--the ones with the percentages?
"-- Those who admit to being Democrat are decreasing [down to 28% and falling], -- Those who admit to being Republican are increasing [up to over 40% and rising]"
let me guess--Rush or Faux News ?
also-
" our state legislature has passed [or introduced] a bill stating that firearms 100% manufactured in Tennessee are not subject to federal regulation "
Which would these be- Inmate Arms? I've made a few black powder guns which are not federal regulated, but not familiar with any regular ones mfg here. They need to add ammo to this bill also.
Just so you know, registered democrats outnumber republicans. Also, Sanford is no RINO- he's a true, typical, racist, homophobic, "family values" conservative. This was the guy that is so far right-wing that he wanted to refuse the federal stimulus money. Thankfully for S.C., the heavily republican dominated state legislature overrode him. Sanford is about as wacko as a major level politician there is- the political opposite of but just as wacko as Jerry Brown. As a South Carolinian, I know all too well just what a screw up Sanford is, although I didn't see this coming.
Username: cave_demon | On:
June 28, 2009 at 7 p.m.
(1) A firearm that cannot be carried and used by one (1) person; (2) A firearm that has a bore diameter greater than one and one half (1 ½) inches and that uses smokeless powder, not black powder, as a propellant; (3) Ammunition with a projectile that explodes using an explosion of chemical energy after the projectile leaves the firearm; or (4) A firearm that discharges two or more projectiles with one activation of the trigger or other firing device.
Username: Sailorman | On:
June 28, 2009 at 8:27 p.m.
The comparison between Sanford and Brown is a great one - they're both crazy.
With some of the stimulus money, acceptance now means higher state tax requirements in a few years. My sentiments - take the money now and worry about higher taxes when it comes up. It's not as if there won't be plenty of "taxing" issues anyway
Username: Sailorman | On:
June 28, 2009 at 8:31 p.m.
EaTn -- How many times must I say this -- I do not listen to, watch, follow the sayings of, or quote Rush Limbaugh.
I watch very, very little television -- cable, broadcast, or any other kind. I do not deal in 10-30 second soundbites on the state of the US; TV news is as much, or more, of a disaster area as newsprint.
The Internet almost has too much information, but at least one can get a balanced view by accessing a variety of news sources, both professional and amateur. YouTube is one such source, realizing the ability to modify just about everything. Things weren't always this complex...'course we weren't all that informed, either.
Username: rolando | On:
June 28, 2009 at 8:31 p.m.
Sorry, cave_demon, but where does Sanford enter this equation insofar as RINOs are concerned? Governors don't vote in the US House of Reps...not yet, anyway.
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Username: rolando | On:
June 28, 2009 at 8:31 p.m.
InspBucket -- I don't recall where I saw it; I hit way too many places. It was three-four days ago, I think. Probably started in drudgereport.com or perhaps hotair.com. Don't recall exactly who polled it either but if hard-pressed, would say Rasmussen; the poll covered around 1,500 people. They were adamant on the Independent increase although they played down the significance, stating their bloc vote was being diluted for some reason, to the disadvantage of the Democrats.
Username: rolando | On:
June 28, 2009 at 8:40 p.m.
Franksmith wrote: This is a great cartoon.....Republicans preach one thing then do just the opposite, that's the way they live their life, that's the way they govern.
Should we lower our standards or try to do better? Christians have never been and are never going to be perfect.
Thanx for the bill numbers, Sailorman. These bills are becoming more and more popular nationwide. Montana's included the arrest of federal agents violating its law by attempting to enforce federal law within Montana without investigative or prosecutive jurisdiction. The first test case will be interesting...I wonder if the feds will fire the first Sumter shot like they did at Ruby Ridge and Waco.
Username: rolando | On:
June 28, 2009 at 8:51 p.m.
Rolando- you're poll numbers on party affiliation are EXTREMELY suspect. The latest Gallup poll on that issue would contradict your point. The results of the study show that between 2001 and 2009, the percentage of Americans who identify as “Republican” or “lean Republican” has declined in every measured demographic group, except those who identified as frequent church-goers.
I must say, however, if your numbers are right (which I highly doubt) you must have a party full of RINOs because you guys sure didn't do very well this past November... like, ANYWHERE!
And what is this about Sanford not being a RINO because he's not in Congress? What does that mean? Can you not be a 'Republican In Name Only' unless your elected to a a specific office, or is it just a moniker that you get to bestow on someone?
As for all the desperate partisan jokes about Bill Clinton, Jesse Jackson, and John Edwards (by the way, you forget Eliot Spitzer), well, that sure smacks of a diversion.
Let's face it, the GOP has become the party of philanderers. Let's look at the list:
Mark 'Appalachian Trail' Sanford, cheats on his wife with an Argentine honey.
Nevada Senator John "Promise Keeper' Ensign (the No. 4 Republican in the Senate) admitted to an affair with a member of his staff.
A fellow Nevada Republican, Gov. Jim 'Hugh Hefner' Gibbons is in the midst of salacious divorce proceedings, where his wife has accused him of extramarital affairs with several women, including a former Playboy model.
Vito 'Not THAT Daughter' Fossella, the lone Republican congressman from New York City was arrested for driving under the influence in Virginia. He told police he was on his way to seeing his 3-year-old daughter, who was ill. The child, however, was one he had with his mistress.
Conservative GOP senator from Idaho, Larry 'Wide Stance' Craig was arrested in a Minneapolis airport men's room on a charge of lewd conduct. Craig pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct but denied widespread rumors that he is gay. He subsequently decided to retire in 2008.
GOP Senator from Louisiana, David 'Family Values' Vitter was connected by phone records to the notorious DC Madame.
Conservative Florida congressman Mark 'Text Appeal' Foley was found to be sending explicit instant message conversations to male, underage, congressional pages.
Republican congressman from Virginia, Ed 'But I'm Married' Schrock announced he would not seek re-election in August of 2004 after he was "outed" on a Web site as being gay. There were accusations that Schrock, married with a child, had utilized a service in which men seek liaisons with other men.
You can write them all of as RINOs if you like, Rolando. But you might want to rename them MIRO's- Monogamous In Reputation Only!
Username: OllieH | On:
June 28, 2009 at 11:02 p.m.
The Democrats, on the other hand, are paragons of virtue and always have been. Yeah, right.
Ya picks yur pollster and ya goes from there. Either way, the Independents are growing...and they don't buy into the party BS line. And that is a good thing for America.
This administration's continuing efforts to reduce us to one party isn't working...it is killing its own instead. Which is also a good thing for America.
Username: rolando | On:
June 29, 2009 at 1:14 a.m.
The Gallop polll that OllieH refered to is pretty extensive in its analysis.Most notable was the 10 point loss for Republicans among the most educated.Those are the best informed,who were Republican 10 years ago,and now identify with the Democrats.
The Democrats sure don't have all the answers for what ails us,but they have put together a broad coalition who feel their solutions resonate better than what Cheney,Limbaugh,Gingrich,Pallin,or Sanford are offering.Unless and until the Republicans move away from the politics of division,using emotional social wedge issues,they will remain the minority party.IMHO
Username: nucanuck | On:
June 29, 2009 at 1:18 a.m.
nucanuck -- So the conservatives out here should abandon their ethics, their morals, their very souls just to win an election? No thanks...that attitude [along with the MSM] gave us McCain for a candidate.
One thing though, Dear Leader won by only 3 or 4 percent. Think about it...had only 4% gone for McAmnesty, he would be today's Dear Leader. We weren't doing that badly, after all. The loss, IMO, was BDS over-reaction coupled with a refusal to vote for a RINO.
If you think nationalizing our banks, our auto industry, our unions, our healthcare, our everything is the answer I would suggest you study what happened elsewhere when that was done. Oh, that's right...we have "the right people" in place here to carry it off. Yeah, right.
And the Democrats did NOT "put together a broad coalition" of anything; they tried that and failed so they "did it their way" and used brute force. Your choice of words is an attempt to spread the blame...and we are having none of it.
[Interesting group of Republicans you put together there...anything in common amongst them? Other than identifying as Republicans, of course.]
Username: rolando | On:
June 29, 2009 at 10:05 a.m.
Rolondo, I think you are missing the point. No one is saying that Democrats are angels. OllieH and others are pointing out the fact that while Republicans paint themselves as the party of family values, they seem to have more than their fair share of ethical problems. Mark Sanford, Larry Craig, and John Ensign were among a fairly long list of Republicans who demanded that Clinton resign after his sex scandal, but didn't hold themselves to the same standard when they were caught.* Republicans are happy to paint themselves as the party of family values and morality; many love to spew venom at anyone else who lives what they deem an immoral life, but then it's nothing but excuses and demands for privacy when trying to deal with their mistakes. If Republicans would practice what they preach, or preach at everyone else a little less, then maybe those of us who aren't Republicans could muster a little more sympathy.
*To be fair, John Edwards was also critical, but did not call for Clinton's resignation.
Username: AlmostAmanda | On:
June 29, 2009 at 10:06 a.m.
Why should any of us admit responsibility or critically analyze the consequences of our actions when we have recourse to imaginary beings and the mythological?
The thing that isn't being said out loud, and I think everyone knows, is that these individuals and their marriages would have been just fine if it hadn't been for liberal democrats and activists judges legalizing so-called "same-sex" marriages in Massachusetts and Iowa and other communist yankee states. What we are seeing is the direct result of the homosexual agenda's attack on the sanctity of marriage, and the godless Hollywood plot to destroy traditional family values.
Username: Humphrey | On:
June 29, 2009 at 2:08 p.m.
I found an interesting, short philosophical discourses on moral norms at this site, one of which was about hypocricy. It also includes some other small discussions at what moral norms can lead to.
Oh, the fact that Democrats aren't angels wasn't expressly stated...but it was carefully skated around/covered up, wasn't it? You did it yourself by quickly abandoning the very idea of it in favor of an attack on the opposition.
But Clay's 'toons are a thread for liberals, after all, so that is understandable.
Username: rolando | On:
June 29, 2009 at 9:18 p.m.
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Cute pun.
It could have read, "Bipartis Inn"
or "Bipartis Sin"
But neither would have been funny.
Hahahahaha
Great play on words and imaginative art. That's a home run.
My liberal leaning may make it a notch or two (x100) funnier, but it's still hilarious just on face value.
Conservatives must keep in mind, the artist doesn't influence current events, it's the news that inspires the artist.
...and Bennett must have been feeling very inspired today.
This is a great cartoon.....Republicans preach one thing then do just the opposite, that's the way they live their life, that's the way they govern.
I bet Bill Clinton never dreamed that the gift of revenge would just keep on giving.
If the GOP presidential candidates keep on dropping, their primary will simply be "last man standing".
Walmarts newest subsidary...."Live Better" Next Exit!!!
Hilarious Clay........thanks for the morning chuckle!
The GOP hahahahah! Clay has the best GOP cartoons.
I can only imagine what Tennessee will be like with a Republican governor, and predominately repbuiclan legislature. It will be all about guns, anti gay from 2010 to 2014.
Very funny cartoon, Clay!
Moonpie correctly points out that these kind of scandals are a pox on both houses, but the point of this cartoon (as I see it) is the hypocrisy of pious Republican politicians.
A large faction within the GOP seems completely obsessed with promoting the virtues of family values and sexual morality. They relish attacking other elected officials for personal transgressions and try to force their own strict religiosity on the population at large. Over the past 30 years, the GOP has taken biblical law, and made it the party's legislative priority.
So, when one of this flock strays, when one of these arbiters of morality is exposed as a charlatan, it certainly makes the entire Republican Party sound like it's preaching a hollow sermon
ae1049 you are correct....but let's not forget about the Tennessee GOP racist views...now I do believe we have them covered on all sides of their party.
The media over here in Germany was a bit slow to pick up on the Sanford story, but as soon as I heard about it I knew that I'd have to take a look at Bennett's latest cartoon. And bingo - the man did it again! This is the ultimate comment on Republican bigotry. Keep 'em coming, Clay!
Clay, today's cartoon is 'moving' on two levels. On one hand I want to LMAO, as the "texters" might type it, while on the other hand I can only wring my hands in disgust as another pious-type 'bites the dust'.
It's no sin to be human, in fact if taken quite literally, I am sure the Bible points out that being human is likely sinning in and of itself.
No, I am not a Bible scholar, but I am smart enough to know that when someone (regardless of political or religious persuasion) berates others too often, and often louder and louder as they go, it is more often than not a ploy to seemingly divert the focus off of themselves and what they hope to get away with.
Again, it is no sin to be human. It is a sin, however, not to admit your wrong and seek the forgiveness from those you have wronged. Of course, offering forgiveness to others who have also done wrong wouldn't hurt.
At least, that is the way I would expect a Bible scholar would feel about it all.
Thank you for your time and attention,
Woody
Franksmith, clue me in on the racist aspect.
The guns, anti gay, is a proven legislative fact, simpy search the legislative web site under, guns, and embeded in adoption law, family law, and marriage, you will find embeded laws intended to stack the deck against same sex realtionships in all regards.
http://www.legislature.state.tn.us/
And yet...and yet...
The numbers don't follow any of the above.
-- Those who admit to being Democrat are decreasing [down to 28% and falling],
-- Those who admit to being Republican are increasing [up to over 40% and rising], and
-- Those who admit to being Independent are rising fastest of all.
Gee...I wonder why? Perhaps its initials are "Dear Leader" and his true politics are starting to show. Prematurely. Which shows his stupidity and overconfidence; as we all know, most politicians -- the smarter ones -- wait until their last term to do that...
How'd you like that Cap-N-Tax bill that just slinked by the House? Read it yet? No one in the House did either.
RINOs again...the ones who run the Inns.
Is that where Bill Clinton, Jesse Jackson, and John Edwards stayed too?
aae1049 --
You listed only a few of the reasons concerned people are bailing from the democrat party...the same reasons I remain a conservative.
Did you see where our state legislature has passed [or introduced] a bill stating that firearms 100% manufactured in Tennessee are not subject to federal regulation since they do not enter into interstate commerce. That makes us the third or fourth state to do that...it will make an interesting SCOTUS case.
Good one, Salsa.
Rolando writes:
"Those who admit to being Independent are rising fastest of all."
That is the only opinion poll "fact" that I can accept unverified.
As we agree, Rolando, with so much information available on the internet to so many voters, traditional GOP and DNC politicians are falling behind, the ground cut from beneath their feet by too many people knowing too much.
President Obama is an interesting example of someone who knew how to play the new game, but now seems to be struggling.
Where did you pull the rest of the data from, Rolando--the ones with the percentages?
Catching public officials in "sexcapades" appears to be about as difficult as "huntin' in a baited field".
To paraphrase former Gov. Edwards of La., "If you bait a trap with a woman you'll catch me every time.".
Are we having fun, or what!
South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford's affair turns political
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/060...
It seems that Sanford's favorite room is in high demand. Next?
rolando wrote-
"-- Those who admit to being Democrat are decreasing [down to 28% and falling],
-- Those who admit to being Republican are increasing [up to over 40% and rising]"
let me guess--Rush or Faux News ?
also-
" our state legislature has passed [or introduced] a bill stating that firearms 100% manufactured in Tennessee are not subject to federal regulation "
Which would these be- Inmate Arms? I've made a few black powder guns which are not federal regulated, but not familiar with any regular ones mfg here.
They need to add ammo to this bill also.
Just so you know, registered democrats outnumber republicans. Also, Sanford is no RINO- he's a true, typical, racist, homophobic, "family values" conservative. This was the guy that is so far right-wing that he wanted to refuse the federal stimulus money. Thankfully for S.C., the heavily republican dominated state legislature overrode him. Sanford is about as wacko as a major level politician there is- the political opposite of but just as wacko as Jerry Brown. As a South Carolinian, I know all too well just what a screw up Sanford is, although I didn't see this coming.
EaTn - Here ya go
See HB1769/SB1610
It is similar to one already passed in Montana.
http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/po...d...
It would not apply to..
(1) A firearm that cannot be carried and used by one (1) person;
(2) A firearm that has a bore diameter greater than one and one half (1 ½) inches and that uses smokeless powder, not black powder, as a propellant;
(3) Ammunition with a projectile that explodes using an explosion of chemical energy after the projectile leaves the firearm; or
(4) A firearm that discharges two or more projectiles with one activation of the trigger or other firing device.
The comparison between Sanford and Brown is a great one - they're both crazy.
With some of the stimulus money, acceptance now means higher state tax requirements in a few years. My sentiments - take the money now and worry about higher taxes when it comes up. It's not as if there won't be plenty of "taxing" issues anyway
EaTn -- How many times must I say this -- I do not listen to, watch, follow the sayings of, or quote Rush Limbaugh.
I watch very, very little television -- cable, broadcast, or any other kind. I do not deal in 10-30 second soundbites on the state of the US; TV news is as much, or more, of a disaster area as newsprint.
The Internet almost has too much information, but at least one can get a balanced view by accessing a variety of news sources, both professional and amateur. YouTube is one such source, realizing the ability to modify just about everything. Things weren't always this complex...'course we weren't all that informed, either.
Sorry, cave_demon, but where does Sanford enter this equation insofar as RINOs are concerned? Governors don't vote in the US House of Reps...not yet, anyway.
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InspBucket -- I don't recall where I saw it; I hit way too many places. It was three-four days ago, I think. Probably started in drudgereport.com or perhaps hotair.com. Don't recall exactly who polled it either but if hard-pressed, would say Rasmussen; the poll covered around 1,500 people. They were adamant on the Independent increase although they played down the significance, stating their bloc vote was being diluted for some reason, to the disadvantage of the Democrats.
Franksmith wrote:
This is a great cartoon.....Republicans preach one thing then do just the opposite, that's the way they live their life, that's the way they govern.
Should we lower our standards or try to do better? Christians have never been and are never going to be perfect.
Thanx for the bill numbers, Sailorman. These bills are becoming more and more popular nationwide. Montana's included the arrest of federal agents violating its law by attempting to enforce federal law within Montana without investigative or prosecutive jurisdiction. The first test case will be interesting...I wonder if the feds will fire the first Sumter shot like they did at Ruby Ridge and Waco.
Rolando- you're poll numbers on party affiliation are EXTREMELY suspect. The latest Gallup poll on that issue would contradict your point. The results of the study show that between 2001 and 2009, the percentage of Americans who identify as “Republican” or “lean Republican” has declined in every measured demographic group, except those who identified as frequent church-goers.
I must say, however, if your numbers are right (which I highly doubt) you must have a party full of RINOs because you guys sure didn't do very well this past November... like, ANYWHERE!
And what is this about Sanford not being a RINO because he's not in Congress? What does that mean? Can you not be a 'Republican In Name Only' unless your elected to a a specific office, or is it just a moniker that you get to bestow on someone?
As for all the desperate partisan jokes about Bill Clinton, Jesse Jackson, and John Edwards (by the way, you forget Eliot Spitzer), well, that sure smacks of a diversion.
Let's face it, the GOP has become the party of philanderers. Let's look at the list:
Mark 'Appalachian Trail' Sanford, cheats on his wife with an Argentine honey.
Nevada Senator John "Promise Keeper' Ensign (the No. 4 Republican in the Senate) admitted to an affair with a member of his staff.
A fellow Nevada Republican, Gov. Jim 'Hugh Hefner' Gibbons is in the midst of salacious divorce proceedings, where his wife has accused him of extramarital affairs with several women, including a former Playboy model.
Vito 'Not THAT Daughter' Fossella, the lone Republican congressman from New York City was arrested for driving under the influence in Virginia. He told police he was on his way to seeing his 3-year-old daughter, who was ill. The child, however, was one he had with his mistress.
Conservative GOP senator from Idaho, Larry 'Wide Stance' Craig was arrested in a Minneapolis airport men's room on a charge of lewd conduct. Craig pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct but denied widespread rumors that he is gay. He subsequently decided to retire in 2008.
GOP Senator from Louisiana, David 'Family Values' Vitter was connected by phone records to the notorious DC Madame.
Conservative Florida congressman Mark 'Text Appeal' Foley was found to be sending explicit instant message conversations to male, underage, congressional pages.
Republican congressman from Virginia, Ed 'But I'm Married' Schrock announced he would not seek re-election in August of 2004 after he was "outed" on a Web site as being gay. There were accusations that Schrock, married with a child, had utilized a service in which men seek liaisons with other men.
You can write them all of as RINOs if you like, Rolando. But you might want to rename them MIRO's- Monogamous In Reputation Only!
The Democrats, on the other hand, are paragons of virtue and always have been. Yeah, right.
Ya picks yur pollster and ya goes from there. Either way, the Independents are growing...and they don't buy into the party BS line. And that is a good thing for America.
This administration's continuing efforts to reduce us to one party isn't working...it is killing its own instead. Which is also a good thing for America.
Rolando
The Gallop polll that OllieH refered to is pretty extensive in its analysis.Most notable was the 10 point loss for Republicans among the most educated.Those are the best informed,who were Republican 10 years ago,and now identify with the Democrats.
The Democrats sure don't have all the answers for what ails us,but they have put together a broad coalition who feel their solutions resonate better than what Cheney,Limbaugh,Gingrich,Pallin,or Sanford are offering.Unless and until the Republicans move away from the politics of division,using emotional social wedge issues,they will remain the minority party.IMHO
nucanuck --
So the conservatives out here should abandon their ethics, their morals, their very souls just to win an election? No thanks...that attitude [along with the MSM] gave us McCain for a candidate.
One thing though, Dear Leader won by only 3 or 4 percent. Think about it...had only 4% gone for McAmnesty, he would be today's Dear Leader. We weren't doing that badly, after all. The loss, IMO, was BDS over-reaction coupled with a refusal to vote for a RINO.
If you think nationalizing our banks, our auto industry, our unions, our healthcare, our everything is the answer I would suggest you study what happened elsewhere when that was done. Oh, that's right...we have "the right people" in place here to carry it off. Yeah, right.
And the Democrats did NOT "put together a broad coalition" of anything; they tried that and failed so they "did it their way" and used brute force. Your choice of words is an attempt to spread the blame...and we are having none of it.
[Interesting group of Republicans you put together there...anything in common amongst them? Other than identifying as Republicans, of course.]
Rolondo, I think you are missing the point. No one is saying that Democrats are angels. OllieH and others are pointing out the fact that while Republicans paint themselves as the party of family values, they seem to have more than their fair share of ethical problems. Mark Sanford, Larry Craig, and John Ensign were among a fairly long list of Republicans who demanded that Clinton resign after his sex scandal, but didn't hold themselves to the same standard when they were caught.* Republicans are happy to paint themselves as the party of family values and morality; many love to spew venom at anyone else who lives what they deem an immoral life, but then it's nothing but excuses and demands for privacy when trying to deal with their mistakes. If Republicans would practice what they preach, or preach at everyone else a little less, then maybe those of us who aren't Republicans could muster a little more sympathy.
*To be fair, John Edwards was also critical, but did not call for Clinton's resignation.
It is the hypocrisy.
Why should any of us admit responsibility or critically analyze the consequences of our actions when we have recourse to imaginary beings and the mythological?
Spiritual adviser: 'Darkness' gripped Sanford
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090629/ap_o...
What days we live in. . . .
The thing that isn't being said out loud, and I think everyone knows, is that these individuals and their marriages would have been just fine if it hadn't been for liberal democrats and activists judges legalizing so-called "same-sex" marriages in Massachusetts and Iowa and other communist yankee states. What we are seeing is the direct result of the homosexual agenda's attack on the sanctity of marriage, and the godless Hollywood plot to destroy traditional family values.
Are Liberals hypocrites for attending a Baby Shower?
No, they aren't.
I found an interesting, short philosophical discourses on moral norms at this site, one of which was about hypocricy. It also includes some other small discussions at what moral norms can lead to.
This is from the Philosophical Dictionary.
Whooee!
http://www.xs4all.nl/~maartens/philosoph...
Considering what happened when I tried to edit my last response, I'm surprised it even turned up.
AND:
I wonder what is going to turn up on Madoff on this great site!
AlmostAmanda --
Oh, the fact that Democrats aren't angels wasn't expressly stated...but it was carefully skated around/covered up, wasn't it? You did it yourself by quickly abandoning the very idea of it in favor of an attack on the opposition.
But Clay's 'toons are a thread for liberals, after all, so that is understandable.
They aren't hypocrites provided they weren't the ones who tossed the abortion-survivors into the storage room, Oz...