published Saturday, August 21st, 2010

Dr. Laura

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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SavartiTN said...

Hmmm...let me get these straight, dewey...Dr. Laura can't say the "n" word but it is okay for you to call her a "white bitch?"

August 21, 2010 at 12:34 a.m.
Tax_Payer said...

I hope ya'll are having a good time tonight. Maybe those of you that choose to use slurs need to read the rules again about how to post comments before you get banned or something.

August 21, 2010 at 1:23 a.m.
EaTn said...

I have not seen our buddy "rolando" comments for some time- have I missed something along the way?

August 21, 2010 at 5:45 a.m.
acerigger said...

make that "arrogant" white bitch.

August 21, 2010 at 5:55 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

Dr Obama on one door and Mr double-the-deficit, raise-unemploymebnt-while-saying-he'd-keep-it-under-8% on the other?
Look, since neither FDR's deficits nor Bush's nor Obama's cured unemployment, maybe deficits won't cure enemployment, and we'd better elect a Congress that'll (?) balance the budget, which no Congress of Democrats has done in 40 years, nor plans to. Song: "Are we better off now than we were two years ago?" Search; I think it's under Andrew Lohr on www.youtube.com --link maybe tonight. www.lohr84.com>

lkeithlu said...

I hate to sound like I just crawled out from under a rock, but who is Dr. Laura? I don't have TV-is this someone on TV?

August 21, 2010 at 7:03 a.m.
anniebelle said...

Savarti, last I checked dewey nor acerigger have national radio air time. This whacko spreads her venom, racist rants, and bigotry all over the country on "our" airwaves -- you know, the CONS don't own this air space, I hope you're aware of that fact anyway -- they are owned by the American citizens. And there are a whole lot of names in our dictionary you could call this un-american liar, but none are allowed on this board.

August 21, 2010 at 7:34 a.m.
dougmusn said...

For lkeithlu: from Wikipedia: Laura Catherine Schlessinger (born January 16, 1947) is an American talk radio host, socially conservative commentator and author. Her call-in radio program occasionally features short monologues on social and political topics, but consists mainly of her responses to callers' requests for personal advice. Schlessinger's answers have been variously characterized as direct, wise, to-the-point, abrupt and cruel. Her website says that her show "preaches, teaches, and nags about morals, values and ethics."[4]

Her doctorate is in PHYSIOLOGY.

For AndrewLohr: Just how does THIS cartoon refer to President Obama? Do you hate him so much and so viscerally you must scream about him everyday, everywhere and to everyone? Go for a walk, take a breath, give it a break, please. Your hatred will kill you and deny us the opportunity to appreciate your comments in the future.

August 21, 2010 at 8:34 a.m.
moonpie said...

I could never listen to her for more than a couple of minutes. She was like nails on a chalkboard.

The would constantly interrupt callers to argue with them and then fuss at them when they wouldn't let her finish a diatribe.

She always seemed so filled with contempt for the people she's trying to "help".

August 21, 2010 at 9:03 a.m.
claybennett said...

dewey60- Could you please do me two favors?

1) Could you please refrain from using offensive words in your comments. The discussions on this page already get raucous enough without adding inflammatory words to the mix.

2) Would you please, please, please, stop posting links to music videos, or other unrelated material. I understand that conversation and debate can take unexpected twists and turns, but an inexplicable post (like a link to some music video) is just annoying.

I'm not usually one to set any rules of engagement, but your posts are starting to get out of hand. Please try to respect the public nature and the general intent of this page.

Thanks in advance, Clay Bennett

August 21, 2010 at 10:02 a.m.
acerigger said...

Sorry about my use of the term denoting a female dog in regard to Dr.Laura,however,she's still arrogant,now add whiny,"I'm the victim",typical right-wing mis-direction. (how 'bout "shrew"?)

August 21, 2010 at 10:26 a.m.
deltenney said...

I appreciate the rules Clay Bennett has imposed; it is better to be civil, even in disagreement. Thanks, Clay.

August 21, 2010 at 11:02 a.m.
Clara said...

THANK YOU, Clay!

Ikiethlu, Dougmusn, you too!

August 21, 2010 at 11:23 a.m.
Soos54 said...

@AndrewLohr: I don't get it...How is this cartoon about Obama?

August 21, 2010 at 12:30 p.m.
SavartiTN said...

Mr. Bennett,

Thank you so much for addressing the dewey problem. It is much appreciated by all. Now, maybe we can have some real discussions again.

August 21, 2010 at 1:38 p.m.
SavartiTN said...

anniebelle, I wasn't defending Dr. Laura. I have never listened to her programs. I was merely pointing out the irony of dewey castigating her for using a racial slur and then he turns around and uses one to describe the woman. I found it rather hypocritical but that fact was lost on dewey.

August 21, 2010 at 1:42 p.m.
anniebelle said...

Savarti, I see what you mean. I just thought it was like apples and oranges to compare the minute impact dewey's posts have on our citenzry as opposed to the national audience this hateful person draws every day on her radio show.

August 21, 2010 at 3:10 p.m.

Here's the FULL story in a link for you link-freaks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnyBKv3mItM or google dr laura racist comments full story

Note: the caller did sound like an NAACP baiter, but who knows? The Dr. has been taken totally out of context on this one. She's right. There's Blacks galore out there using the banned word, as well as filthy, misogynistic terms all the time-on air. OUR airwaves too.

Laura DID apologize, more than once and said she was sorry. Then resigned. Which is what every Leftist race-baiting, trasher of Whites, Conservatives, Jews and Christians should do as well, but they don't and won't. Ever listened to Al Sharpton's, Rev Wright's (Obama's 20 year+ 'pastor'), Louis Farrakhan's and Jesse Jackson's speeches or PBS and Air America? Seems there is one standard in radio/TV/print, for Conservatives and another, freer one for the Left. Ever lived in Southern California where racism against ALL whites is not only acceptable but an everyday occurrence (the mean streets btw, not in mansions and gated communities)? Try it for a good amount of time, maybe ya'll will wake up to the meaning of the word.

Note: I listened to Dr. Laura's show a couple of times and did not like it. She has some good points but in my opinion isn't that interesting to listen to and neither are her callers. She interrupts her guests constantly like O'Reilly on Fox news and that's just arrogance. Why have a show and guests if you don't want them to talk with you?

Note: The word "n....." originally was used in the English language to refer to poor, uneducated whites, what the Left here call "white trash". It has been used for hundreds of years to denigrate some human race or another. Therefore, no matter WHO uses it, it is wrong, nasty and arrogant. The sound of it coming out of any mouth is disgusting.

August 21, 2010 at 3:20 p.m.
sd said...

Here's the entire radio segment, including her on-air monologue after the call ends. (I'm not necessarily endorsing mediamatters.org, they just happen to be the first hit.)

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201008120045

Is it possible for people to "take back" a slur? Or is it better to cast it away entirely?

Muscio argues that women should take back the c-word. Is this effective or does it merely perpetuate misogyny? In American culture there isn't any slur that comes close to infamy of the n-word, so it's tough to make comparisons.

In a perfect world people could use whatever words they wish, but words have power, and some words have terrible power. Holocausts don't begin with bullets, they begin with words. I wonder if so-called slur reclamation doesn't widen the gulf between peoples--after all, people outside your group that aren't biased against you will be offended by it, and people outside your group that ARE biased against you already think in those terms and may derive reinforcement.

Even the term "n-word" is problematic. Can we eradicate a word, and the shadow of that word, from our lexicon altogether?

August 21, 2010 at 4:30 p.m.
moonpie said...

Canary,

I totally agree with the reasons not to listen to Dr. Laura.

She also was making the exact same argument that Bill Cosby and many others in the Black community make.

Using the "N" word in the context she used it reminded me a lot of Gaylord Focker saying "bomb" on an airplane.


Norm: I got a plane full of people saying you threatened that stewardess. Greg Focker: I was not threatening her. I was just trying to get my bag into the overhead storage thing... Norm: You were acting like a maniac and you threatened her with a bomb. Greg Focker: No, I said I didn't have a bomb. Norm: But you said bomb. Greg Focker: I said, "It's not like I have a bomb". Norm: You said "Bomb" on an airplane. Greg Focker: What's wrong with saying 'Bomb' on an airplane? Norm: You can't say 'Bomb' on an airplane! Greg Focker: Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb. You gonna arrest me? Bomb bomb bomb bomb! During the war I was a BOMBadier! Norm: You assaulted an airline employee and I oughta put you away for years!


It's all a matter of context. Dr. Laura did not call anyone the "N" word.

Personally, I'm ok with the double standard that she was questioning... again, it's about context, for me.

August 21, 2010 at 4:33 p.m.
SCOTTYM said...

Thank you Mr. Bennett.

August 21, 2010 at 5:28 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

Wonderfully amusing comments, Canary.

Love the way you Republicans are always the victims, and if one of you get caught "accidently" saying something offensive or racists or inflammatory or just plain wrong, well, you just point out what those "Leftist race-baiting, trasher of Whites, Conservatives, Jews and Christians" get away with all the time. It's not your fault.

Republicans truly are just selfless martyrs.

Wow.

Brilliant strategy but I wish you'd tone it down a little. You made me laugh so hard this time my ribs hurt.

Keep up the good work!

August 21, 2010 at 5:40 p.m.

whatIsaid: Laura DID apologize, more than once and said she was sorry. Then resigned. Which is what every Leftist race-baiting, trasher of Whites, Conservatives, Jews and Christians should do as well, but they don't and won't.

your 'water' is not only black and mushy, but your brains are as well. I state the facts and look at both sides. You can't do either so you whine and snort like a hyena. Your posts prove daily, you don't do objective and neither do you know what truth is. Pity, you're in good company though.

August 21, 2010 at 7:16 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Your hypocrisy is astounding, canary.

August 21, 2010 at 7:36 p.m.
alprova said...

AndrewLohr wrote: "Look, since neither FDR's deficits nor Bush's nor Obama's cured unemployment, maybe deficits won't cure enemployment..."


Perhaps not, but then both did a find job of preventing Americans from STARVING TO DEATH on our streets, which is a little more important.

And given some of the statements that have been released to the public by some rather prominent, so called Conservative Republicans, I consider it safe to say that it's a damn good thing that they are in the minority at the moment.

I hope they keep up the good work of reminding people exactly why it is that they are not in charge of this nation at the moment.

A few more foot-in-mouth revelations like their take on how necessary that unemployment compensation is to the unemployed, or that people need to be "scraping and clawing and looking for work," and they won't even need to show up at the polls in November.

Right now, the GOP is scraping and clawing and looking for enough money to buy a few seats in our Houses of Congress, and it's not looking very good for them at the moment.

August 21, 2010 at 7:59 p.m.
WeeWo said...

Every comment on here has a place where you can click "Suggest Removal". I suggest removal of Clay Bennett's daily addition to this newspaper. All they seem to do is promote hatred among community members, with people thinking they are better than someone else by their color, religion, or political party. Yes, we should all be entitled to our own opinions, but wouldn't the world be a better place if we just kept it to ourselves and didn't try to make everybody "just like us"??

August 21, 2010 at 8:07 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

WeeWo, we (well most) of us are adults who like debating ideas. Some, like canary, just likes to condemn and insult. This forum is not a requirement, and you certainly are free to NOT read the posts. But don't deny us our entertainment. You are welcome to watch TV instead if you prefer.

August 21, 2010 at 8:14 p.m.
alprova said...

Canary wrote: "Note: The word "n....." originally was used in the English language to refer to poor, uneducated whites, what the Left here call "white trash"."


You're not alone in that silly assertion. It's very popular among apologists of white people who not only desire to continue to want to use the word, but who also desire to attempt to manufacture a justifiable reason for continuing to use that word.

The word was first used, according to several historical writings, to describe the first sightings by Europeans of people from Africa in the area known as "the Niger River."

The Latin word "niger" is the quintessential description for anything that is "black." Thus, the Europeans used "niger" to describe those that they saw, and further referred to them as "Black spirits."

I'd love to see some source that supports the notion that the origin of the word was used to describe "white trash."

White trash may well be guilty of using the word, but the word has never, ever, been used to describe anything that contained any hue or tone considered to be white.

Laura Slessinger knew EXACTLY what she was doing that day, and she sure should have known better than to use that word on the air...period.

May she have a WONDERFUL retirement. Her ratings were in the toilet anyway.

August 21, 2010 at 8:27 p.m.

wow, ikey hypocrite, calling the kettle black, aren't wou? I hope weewo wees on your lame comments because weewo is more than entitled to weewos opinion. Who is wou btw? are wou the gestapo wee-er on the west of us? methinks wou think wou are. pathetic won. tell us, is it menopause or were wou born this way?

August 21, 2010 at 8:28 p.m.

well, well alpie, beastie boy. you need to study medieval and english history (that's England FYI) to realize once again, you in all your arrogance do not know-it-all.

August 21, 2010 at 8:31 p.m.
moonpie said...

Clay,

Your comment is most appreciated.

I'm a little surprised you had to make it, since someone at the TFP should be monitoring and deleting posts which truly are offensive.

Unless he is actually blocked, I doubt dewey will be gone for good; however, even his last post was deleted.... which he merely said would be his last post....

Has he been banned?


WeeWo,

You may not have noticed, but Clay's drawings concisely encapsulate and editorialize on current events.

If we all followed your advice.... the universe would still revolve around the earth... Klan members never would have reformed.... women would not have the vote.... we'd all have our heads in the sand, or some other dark place.

I think it's good that voices and opinions are shared. I want to know what other people think. In the extreme, it's very good to know that there are fanatics who want to kill you and me.

To me, knowing a different opinion is sometimes essential to survival.

But by all means, feel free dodge all disagreement. That's one way to ensure you'll never be yourself. Very un-American, to my way of thinking.

August 21, 2010 at 8:33 p.m.
alprova said...

Canary, just in case you did not know it, you should be aware that just because you have something in your mouth at the time you decide to type a response, that it in no manner should interfere with your ability to type clearly what it is that you are attempting to communicate.

August 21, 2010 at 8:34 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Well, that was a mature response. You are exposed posting multiple lies and now you are siding with someone who would support censorship of Bennett's cartoons.

August 21, 2010 at 8:35 p.m.
alprova said...

Canary wrote: "well, well alpie, beastie boy. you need to study medieval and english history (that's England FYI) to realize once again, you in all your arrogance do not know-it-all."


I need to study something medieval? No thanks.

Were I to undertake your suggestion, I would then be encroaching on your territory, and that I will not do.

Feel free to be considered the sole authority on all things medieval.

Now, if you have some credible proof that the aforementioned word was created and originally used as you claim, by all means post the proof.

Where'd you get that one? From a KKK promo website?

August 21, 2010 at 8:42 p.m.
dss said...

I see the spirit of Dewey lives on in the tone of tonight's comments. Lots of time and pretty thin skin it appears.

August 21, 2010 at 9:09 p.m.
hotdiggity said...

Wow, what an entertaining thread this has been. Great toon Clay and thanks for reminding us all of the ground rules.

August 21, 2010 at 9:09 p.m.
hambone said...

I bet Canary and Lohr are recruiters for the Klan.

August 21, 2010 at 9:21 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

Canary wrote: "your 'water' is not only black and mushy, but your brains are as well. I state the facts and look at both sides. You can't do either so you whine and snort like a hyena."

Really. It must be tough being you. Everybody picking on you. Nobody understanding.

Maybe you should change your name to canary in the cathouse.

I never called you names and I didn't insult you. I pointed out how funny I find your own personal brand of martyrdom.

When I insult you you'll know it. Not sure I can top the impact of "mushy brains."

Thanks for the comic relief!

August 21, 2010 at 9:36 p.m.
hambone said...

Canary, there's just something wrong with someone that draws Social Security Disability and rants and rails against the government that feeds them.

August 21, 2010 at 9:42 p.m.

vipers above: all wrong again and calling the kettle black..tsk, tsk. Can't read properly and imagining words of mine that were neither meant nor stated above. Figures.

Hamboned: SSD? are you talking about Clara or yourself? I've been blessed to work for a living for more than 40 years, in good health and never taking a dime from anyone else, yet contributing more than my fair share and glad to do so for the truly helpless in our society.

I don't "rail against the government" like you Leftist dogs did on the last one. I and millions more critique all governments and Bureaucrats that incorporate corrupt and evil ways, wasting the taxpayers monies, in violation of the Constitution and the Laws of this land. And that goes for companies and individuals, large and small who defraud the hard-working people of this country and take what is not theirs. So bubs, if the shoe fits wear it, because I believe a good many of you do your share of 'defrauding'. Your lack of morals, ethics and truthfulness fairly screams off this board.

So sue me geniuses.

August 21, 2010 at 11:08 p.m.
hambone said...

I know who you are!!

August 21, 2010 at 11:19 p.m.
AndrewLohr said...

Soos, dougmusn--nothing in the drawing tied it to Dr Laura; it could as easily have had our President's name, or anyone else's, on the one door, with Mr Hyde or anything else more relevant on the other. doug--I don't hate our President, but I think many of his policies do more harm than good. (If you disagree with Thomas Sowell or Walter Williams, am I to say you hate them, or that you're a racist? Of course not, unless you show hatred or racism, which differ from disagreement and criticism.) alprova, what's the minimum people need? Long ago Bill Buckley suggested replacing food stamps with handouts of (as I recall) powdered milk, potatoes, bulgar wheat, and soybeans, thus saving three quarters of the cost, and doing just as well at feeding people. Might try this link to my song "Are we better off now than we were two years ago?": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-mqwD...

August 21, 2010 at 11:23 p.m.

bonedham: get a life, I don't collect any Gov't money, much less SSD. I know who you are too. So sue me Bub.

August 21, 2010 at 11:40 p.m.
alprova said...

AndrewLohr wrote: "alprova, what's the minimum people need?"


Now isn't that typical? Conservatives are always trying to save a buck, no matter how many they may have at their disposal.


"Long ago Bill Buckley suggested replacing food stamps with handouts of (as I recall) powdered milk, potatoes, bulgar wheat, and soybeans, thus saving three quarters of the cost, and doing just as well at feeding people."


May you be blessed by God, as your just reward, with only that which you would dispense to those in need, when you face him on your Judgment Day.

I'm in constant awe as to how people like yourself sleep at night.

August 22, 2010 at 2:08 a.m.
OllieH said...

AndreLohr writes, "nothing in the drawing tied it to Dr Laura"

Except, of course, the door labeled 'Dr. Laura'! I would say that might tie it to her, her actions, or her words.

August 22, 2010 at 8:25 a.m.
moonpie said...

Canary's not the first person to confuse the N word with other similar sounding words that could be used to describe anyone.

Niggardly is derived from Norse and is related to the word niggle = to be concerned with petty details.

These words are not the same as the N word, which arose separately.

Either way, even if canary were correct, and even assuming that Mideival England used the N word to describe whites... that would be ancient history and does not apply to modern day usage. In other words, it's a false argument.

Sadly, for canary, he used an incorrect assumption to also make a false argument. And once again, two wrongs don't make a right.

Finally, even if canary were correct, Dr. L was not using the N word to describe whites. So canary would be three times wrong.

That's an out.

As usual, canary goes down swinging.

August 22, 2010 at 8:39 a.m.
moonpie said...

Oops, I meant to say,

"As usual, when canary goes down, he/she goes down swinging."

(My first stab at it suggested that canary is always wrong, which was not my intent.)

August 22, 2010 at 8:42 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

alprova, liberals give away my money and call themselves generous. That's bogus. That's hypocrisy. That's bad public policy. It eats a trillion with a T every year. When I offer a beggar a banana and he wants me to buy him a hamburger, does he impress me? Or even you? Somewhat to his credit, our President gave away his Nobel prize money and more, a couple million of a five million income. Our Veep was less generous; didn't even tithe. OllieH, any name could've been put on the door. Henry Payne's cartoons, in contrast, usually show the people they're about.

August 22, 2010 at 9:54 a.m.
xsiveporsche said...

Play nice people. The problem is that we are suppose to have freedom of speech but if you offend a race they take that away from you. Unless of course you are offneding the whites then it is ok. Blacks or African Americans do not like to be called the N word as it is derogitory and I agree with them but then they should not call each other that either. Hispanics do not like to be called wetbacks and no other race likes to be called certain things. But why is alright for all of them to refer to Whites as Crackers among other names. I do not like the derogitory names for any race as we are all humans. It is time we grow up as a society but how is this possible when our schools are lacking in so much.

August 22, 2010 at 9:59 a.m.
alprova said...

AndrewLohr wrote: "alprova, liberals give away my money and call themselves generous. That's bogus. That's hypocrisy."


Please quote any liberal politician who has ever referred to themselves as being "generous" when doing what is necessary to assist those in need, be it on a temporary or a more permanent basis.

Liberals would rather assist all, even if it is a fact that people abuse such assistance, rather than to chance that those in true need are ignored. Conversely, Conservatives bemoan and hold up the fact that abuse of assistance exists, to give reason and cause to deny it to anyone and everyone.


"That's bad public policy. It eats a trillion with a T every year."


Of course, you are lumping in EVERY social program to arrive at that figure, which is misleading because most programs are self-supporting, but so be it.

As the richest nation in the world, with a current unemployment rate of around 10% and holding steady, we can afford it and we SHOULD afford it, until things improve.

I shouldn't have to remind you, but people out of a job not only need food to eat, they also need shelter for themselves and their families, funds to be able to seek work, and in case you were not aware of it, monthly bills keep on coming in, despite one's current employment status.


"When I offer a beggar a banana and he wants me to buy him a hamburger, does he impress me? Or even you?"


I seriously doubt that anyone who begs for anything is concerned with "impressing" you or anyone else.

I am not about to enter into any discussion as to what I have done for those in need, but I have never limited it to just offering "a" banana to someone with a grumbling stomach, I assure you.

My mouth is no longer open in awe. It has dropped to the ground.

August 22, 2010 at 11:21 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Derogatory names are never okay, because they separate and demean. Cracker, redneck, wetback, spic, the n-word, fag, breeder, raghead, "witch with a b", I could go on but I'm afraid the filters will block my post. It is not okay for members of a group to call themselves by these terms either. It really makes me both angry and sad when I hear young women call each other wh---, c---, or sl--. We have come so far educating both men and women to consider women to be full participants in our society, so young women using sexual slurs sets us back. Likewise, young African-Americans should NEVER call each other by the n-word.

Where I work, use of ANY derogatory term, including any for whites, gays, and women, is not tolerated. Students who use them are disciplined.

August 22, 2010 at 11:21 a.m.
rolando said...

Still here, EaTn. You are one of the few I respond to anymore...

I scan the names before reading, disregarding the trash.

August 22, 2010 at 5 p.m.
hambone said...

This one's filled the barnyard too!

August 22, 2010 at 5:19 p.m.
Snooksie said...

I had never heard of Dr. Laura till all this happened. I understand the point she was making but she still should have known better. You just cant say that no matter what point she was trying to make. Didnt she learn anything from Don Imus. Rolando, was wondering where you had went. I always enjoyed reading your comments.

August 23, 2010 at 9:40 a.m.
BobMKE said...

Alprova,

When Dr. Laura goes down the low ratings toilet she will be very lonely when she reaches the botton with all of those Air America personnel already down there.

August 23, 2010 at 11:47 a.m.
rolando said...

Thanks for the good words, Snooksie. My comments now respond only to those worth responding to.

The trash is beyond redemption and/or acknowledgment here, so I left; although they might look great floating in the middle of the Great Pacific Trash Dump...like attracts like, I guess.

Have you seen the notices of Beck's upcoming Reflecting Pool Rally in DC? A thousand buses so far requesting parking space... It is aimed toward taking us back to our origins, our goals and our ideals of a couple hundred years ago. Should be interesting. Don't hold your breath waiting for a cartoon from Clay, though...

August 23, 2010 at 8:27 p.m.
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