published Friday, August 27th, 2010

Recall campaign makes its mark

by Cliff Hightower

Recall petitioners have gathered the needed signatures to recall Chattanooga Mayor Ron Littlefield, election officials confirmed this afternoon.

The recall effort needed 8,935 signatures in order to force the first Chattanooga mayoral recall election in history.

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FM_33 said...

When it gets to court in will be thrown out like yesterday's trash.

If they make it past that part then remember the people that they are trying to recall are part of the system that controls the Election voting commission here in Hamilton County.

They can change the out come of a vote with just a high up connected call from one of the big wigs on the mountain saying "don't let it happen or else" !

August 27, 2010 at 5:32 p.m.
FM_33 said...

The truth is the truth so please don't pull my comment again unless i ask you to !

August 27, 2010 at 5:33 p.m.
memphisexile said...

As a former chattanooga living in Memphis this makes you guys look really stupid. Its a waste of time and money and that is pretty bad when Chattanooga look more inept and silly than local Memphis politics.

It is stunning to me that in a city of 150,000 it only takes 8900 fools to totally disrupt the government. 1 of two things is going to happen. A bunch of money will get spent on the election and Littlefield wins again or by the time the court battle gets done (and a bunch of money gets spent) his term will be over anyway.

What a bunch of crybabies. What a waste of time. What a shame.

August 27, 2010 at 5:59 p.m.
harrystatel said...

memphisexile, Thanks for going to Memphis, that bastion of the Ford family.

If you like, we'll trade Memphis to Arkansas for a case of beer; It doesn't even have to be good beer.

On second thought, I'll buy the beer and still give Memphis to Arkansas.

Harry Statel

August 27, 2010 at 6:05 p.m.
Salsa said...

You've lost perspective. No one could ever be more inept and silly than Memphis. Any city that elected Willie Herenton will hold that title forever.

August 27, 2010 at 6:07 p.m.
Tax_Payer said...

I agree with FM_33 for once. I too say that there will be lawyers wiggling and loop-holeing around the peoples voice in order to dictate local politics! It is a shame that it has come to this, perhaps a continual disbarment of lawyers will place a stop on unethical practices.

Tea-Party members, It is almost time to recall lawyers!

August 27, 2010 at 6:10 p.m.
memphisexile said...

Harry why the hostility? I'm allowed to have an opinion. It doesn't make you look very intelligent to respond to a valid opinion with a rant about Memphis.

Memphis does have its problems but it also has some great qualities too. I felt like you did before I moved out here for school and found that I was wrong and Memphis does have its redeeming qualities.

Unfortunately one of those redeeming qualities is not local politics. Salsa, I agree Mr. Herenton is a plague on this earth, but he was defeated in the last election. As far as the Ford family goes I think Memphis is showing improvement by rejecting the latest Ford who ran for country mayor and was defeated by a Republican.

Next time Harry why don't respond with a real opinion about the issues were are speaking of instead of attacking the city I live in. That way you will look like a big boy with a brain instead of a raging child.

BTW, I love Chattanooga and would like to return one day. I only comment because I care. I do however expect more civil and and to the point discourse with my former citymates.

I still hold to my opinion. The recall will end up being a waste of tax payer money on an election that will cost millions. I would think that those who are so concerned with government spending would seek to have their voices heard at the polls like everyone else during the next election. Instead they create a ruckus, get in the paper, and force the city into a new election that will cost millions. Good job hypocrites.

August 27, 2010 at 7:06 p.m.
dcruncher said...

Hey, dude from memphis. Do you know how to fix a problem? First, you have to acknowledge that there is one. The recall is doing that. Most people here know that Chattanooga has been plagued by corruption and closed door deals. (fact: FBI took out Crutchfield)

My big question: you think it will cost millions. Why? Unless the mayor uses city money for his campaign, oh wait, that's likely. Sorry.. I am just a stupid citizen who's totally out of the loop...But i do have my voice and I will shout out that when elected officials try to influence judges they should be kicked out, fined, and put in jail. End of conversation.

August 27, 2010 at 7:18 p.m.
harrystatel said...

I'm not hostile. But someone who thinks that those who are exercising their rights to protest are crybabies, shameful, hypocrites and wasting their own time deserves Memphis and the Fords.

And I still wish Arkansas had Memphis.

Want my opinions? Here's where to go:

August 27, 2010 at 8:33 p.m.
JasonMcG said...

Only 9000 signatures were needed because barely 18,000 voters participated in the last mayoral election and the election commission requires only half of that number to initiate a recall. The reality is so few people participated in the last mayoral election and voted for Littlefield, that Ron Littlefield barely has the approval of 10% of the city's population.

Littlefield's claim that the state numbers apply for a recall will be tossed out of court because he was elected at the local level not the state level, thus the local/city charter numbers apply.

The recall is in essence a community waking up to the fact that their elected leader represents the will of so few of the people of Chattanooga and taking action to correct that inequity.

It's not going to cost xtra money to have the election. That's just a scare tactic of those in power to hold onto power.

It's certainly going to cost less than what the taxpayers and city stormwater fee payers would have to pay under Littlefield's draconian tax and spend policies for decades to come.

I have to say I find it amusing that the only people coming to Littlefield's defense here and on other sites like the chattanooga are those who don't have to live under his policies.

I guess Missy Crutchfield and her dad have their out of city / out of state minions working overtime in a last ditch desperate attempt to save Ward's appointed proxy puppet.

The recall is really not that unique. These are happening at the local level nationwide as people in a recession strike back at tax and spend politicians who are only adding to their financial burdens.

A bit amusing since Ron once stated publicly of critics of his policies "What are they going to do recall me?" Well, yes. Pride always goes before a fall.

August 27, 2010 at 9:23 p.m.
Oz said...

The School Board is next.

Can Chester Bankston be recalled before he gets to the County Commission?

August 27, 2010 at 9:55 p.m.
lgrohn said...

Cry Babies? I think not, I agree with Jason McG. The citizens are upset over the recent 19% property increase, 300% storm water fee increase and huge increases in numerous other fees and permits during the worst recession since the Great Depression. Secondly, the habit of nonfeasance by previous Mayors and City Council's for the past 8 to 12 years, especially in regards to Federal Clean Water and Water Quality regulations. Finally, Mayor Littlefield's statement in March, 2010 that in Chattanooga the recession was over, thereby claiming it was okay to increase taxes. What type of argument would suggest that when leaders defy the will of the citizens they should shut up and wait for the next election? That is why the vast majority of cities in the US have the recall option in their charters; it is the recourse available in-between scheduled elections. And no it will not cost the city that much to have the recall election because it will take place during the scheduled mid-term elections in November. It may actually boost the economy considering the money that will be funneled into the campaign.

August 27, 2010 at 11:37 p.m.
memphisexile said...

It will cost millions because staging elections is not free. It costs money. Lots of money. BTW, I am from Chatt. just currently living in Memphis. So property taxes got raised in Chattanooga, well what did you expect? The tax base eroded due to falling property values and foreclosures. What would you have LIttlefield cut? What is the solution? I am simply saying that a recall election that will cost city money it doesn't have to stage is not the answer. If you get LIttlefield again nothing changes. If you get something else there will simply be a new mayor who will find out that when you try to cut services people get just as angry. Everyone is against taxes until it is something YOU want that gets cut. BTW I find this a little funny because I did not vote for Littlefield when I lived in Chatt. I just don't think recall is the answer. People elected the man and he should be allowed to serve his term. Republicans voted for him, they put him in office, now you want a change because your guy is doing things you don't like? It won't change anything. It is a waste of resources.

August 27, 2010 at 11:40 p.m.
memphisexile said...

BTW Harry I didn't mean to get so personal. We all get fired up at times ; )

Also, Memphians love Arkansas (thats where we go to buy beer, less sales tax)

August 27, 2010 at 11:44 p.m.
joe_six_pack said...

......"Littlefield's claim that the state numbers apply for a recall will be tossed out of court because he was elected at the local level not the state level, thus the local/city charter numbers apply".....

True the City Charter applies because Tennessee law says it does, as below from that law:

Tennessee Code Annotated 2-5-151.

Petitions for recall, referendum or initiative.

(a) Any governmental entity having a charter provision for a petition forrecall, referendum or initiative or any person acting pursuant to such charter provision shall meet the requirements of this section.

            (skip to (d) covers number required)

d) Petitions shall be signed by at least fifteen percent (15%) of those registered to vote in the municipality or county. The disqualification of one (1) or more signatures shall not render a petition invalid, but shall disqualify such signatures from being counted towards the statutory minimum number of signatures required in this section.

(Except that....skip to (j)

(j) This section shall control notwithstanding any statutory provision or charter provision of a municipality or county to the contrary; provided, that any contrary charter provision of a municipality or county which is enacted after July 1, 1997, shall control with respect only to the requirements set forth in subsection (d) relating to the statutory minimum number of signatures required in a petition.

////// Therefore the City Charter "Shall Control"

August 28, 2010 at 1:03 a.m.
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