published Thursday, August 4th, 2011

Out of Town

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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woody said...

Out of sight..out of mind.

Out of touch..Woody

August 4, 2011 at 6:09 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

And some people would miss the cartoonist, too, if he disappeared.

August 4, 2011 at 6:19 a.m.
sandyonsignal said...

I noticed. Haslam is not out of mind for the families of Team. As Harry Austin wrote this morning: :"Haslam will have to move fast to prove his administration isn't both wrong and heartless."

Where is he again? Oh, yes, Kuwait. Ours and many other families have typed our fingers to the bone, begging him to save our children's only clinic for developmental disabilities. He is leaving 2700 families with no where to go for this type of specialized care. We have only one week before a clinic that was set up by the Hamilton County Medical Board and our City's forefathers closes for good after 50 years of service. Unreal.

August 4, 2011 at 7:03 a.m.

I find the cartoonist for this paper to be predictable and quite boring.

He ignores the most obvious news items if it in any way may make a Democrat look bad. I think we have enough of that already in the tv news and newspapers.

August 4, 2011 at 8:19 a.m.
OllieH said...

As long as Lieutenant Governor Ron Ramsey doesn't leave town, we're fine. After all, he's actually running the show in Nashville.

Just have Governor Haslam leave his rubber stamp if he plans to be away for more than a few days.

August 4, 2011 at 8:32 a.m.
dude_abides said...

blondbutnotdumb... How would you know if you were dumb? A person who is hard of hearing doesn't know what they are missing. The best way to tell if you're dumb or not is to get someone to proofread your posts on this page and see if they point out things like calling "news items" it, or substituting "it" for "they". Oh, and this is a newspaper.

Blonde like a Fox, I bet.

August 4, 2011 at 8:45 a.m.

How do you know you're not dumb?

Ok, Mr. Proofreader, so I should have used the word they. Make a federal case out of it. I suppose if I would've had another cup of coffee I would've correct myself. I bet you're a joy to live with.

You're uptight. Lighten up. Wow!

I think my observation is right on.

Mistake or not, you get my point.

August 4, 2011 at 8:59 a.m.
khargis said...

actually, only a few cartoons back, clay (the cartoonist) took some local democrats to task with the cartoon "results" (

August 4, 2011 at 9:26 a.m.
OllieH said...

Jack- Your claim that Bennett will not "will not get within 50 miles of ANY kind of local issue" is bogus.

Clay drew a local cartoon just three days ago. Remember, Jack- the one on the Multicultural Chamber of Commerce?

And in the past few months, he's also weighed in on the police roadblocks in Dalton, Georgia, the rash of shootings at the College Hills Courts housing project, the selection process (or, lack thereof) of the new county school superintendent, and the county commission's vote on family planning.

Oh, and then there was the cartoon about the hanging of the 10 Commandments in the Meigs County Courthouse, the one about the Tennessee Valley Authority nuclear power program, another on a local General Sessions Judge, and the cartoon about the tragic shooting of a local police officer.

Before that he drew cartoons about the safety violations at the Watts Bar nuclear plant, another cartoon on the curfew at Coolidge Park, one about TVA's plan to finish building the Bellefonte plant, and a cartoon on the ethics complaints against Judge Moon.

I could go on, but I think I made my point. The point being- you have no idea what you're talking about.

August 4, 2011 at 9:36 a.m.
alprova said...

blondebutnotdumb wrote: "I find the cartoonist for this paper to be predictable and quite boring."

Well, you're entitled to your opinion. Many more who like his work, such as I, are entitled to ours as well. And I find his work refreshing and exciting.

"He ignores the most obvious news items if it in any way may make a Democrat look bad. I think we have enough of that already in the tv news and newspapers."

Everyone comes down on one side or another. Clay appears to be a Liberal. Is it a such a surprise to find someone who draws political cartoons and who is indeed Liberal?

It must be, for we have to endure comment after comment along the lines of yours, almost on a daily basis. Do you offer the same kind of commentary in the forums of conservative cartoonists, who are just as "predictable and boring" in their work?

I've noticed for decades that depending on which party dominates Washington at any given time, the charge becomes by some that the media seems to favor the ruling party in their reporting of the news.

When GWB and the Republicans were in power, I heard and read complaint after complaint about how the media was biased towards the Republicans and the President.

Funny how some people think that those in the media are hopping those fences all the time, based on who happens to be in charge.

August 4, 2011 at 9:37 a.m.
alprova said...

OllieH wrote: "I could go on, but I think I made my point. The point being- you have no idea what you're talking about."

You go Ollie. I second that motion.

August 4, 2011 at 9:43 a.m.
alprova said...

Reading various articles about his trip, I found a few surprises in them.

First of all, his trip was arranged for and is being paid for by the U.S. Department of Defense. He, and Governors of Kentucky, Steve Beshear, Nevada, Brian Sandoval, and Utah, Gary Herbert, were invited to go, due apparently to the fact that each of the four states have the highest number of troops serving in Iraq, Kuwait, and Afghanistan.

The trip is being billed as a meeting with troops in a "educational tour."

My only question was to inquire whether the education is for the benefit of Governor Haslam or for the troops?

The Tennessean clarified it as "a trip organized by the military to educate governors about the engagement in Iraq. Haslam’s predecessor, Gov. Phil Bredesen, visited Iraq in 2006."

August 4, 2011 at 10:05 a.m.
potcat said...

Chicken Little Haslan left the country Monday, he is visiting Iraq and Kuwait.

Haslan said he was invited by the U.S. Defense Department on the Pentgon-funded trip because of the number of Tennessee servicemen and women in Iraq and Kuwait.

He and his fellow Governors have been traveling on C-30 transport planes and Black Hawk helicopters.

"It's hot as blazes, and its hard to describe," he said. You're just sitting on the ground and you're saying , " start the engines, lets get started."

With regard to the federal debt ceiling,"Whether the deal they got to is the best deal. ....I'm pretty out of touch."

Between 30 and 100 Tennesseans have been at each base.

August 4, 2011 at 10:28 a.m.
Salsa said...

The President and the Congress should try it. We'd never miss any of them.

August 4, 2011 at 10:53 a.m.
Livn4life said...

On another note, while I respect Governor Haslam, does anyone else think he looks a little like Dana Carvey!

August 4, 2011 at 10:59 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

SandyonSignal said: "Where is he again? Oh, yes, Kuwait. Ours and many other families have typed our fingers to the bone, begging him to save our children's only clinic for developmental disabilities. He is leaving 2700 families with no where to go for this type of specialized care."

I suspect Governor Haslam hopped on a jet and flew to Iraq and Kuwait because he lacks the courage to visit the 2700 families and these children with developmental disabilities.

August 4, 2011 at 11:16 a.m.
potcat said...

`` Insurance executives from around the country met in the nation's capital last week to discuss what they called a "PUBLIC-PRIVATE partership" between insurers and GOVERMENT, following the release OF "A REPORT" showing that life and DISABIITY insurers saved taxpayers up to 4.5 billion per year.

`~ The report said, most workers don't save enough money on their own to cover their families in case of disability or a life threatening situation. throwing those families on the mercy of taxpayer HANDOUTS instead, the report said.

The report goes on to LIE ,"The Welfare Wait," says the goverment has a safety net for people,but its full of holes. Unum CEO Tom Watjen sought to present the insurance as a viable alternative to Goverment Welfare.

`~Corker said too many employers aren't buying insurance for disability or accidents and they aren't settiny aside enough for retirement.

`` Long term, the goal for the GOVERMENT PARTNERSHIP is to "ELIMINATE' the demand for these other (GOVERMENT) programs that are relatively costly," said Scott Maker, senior president at Unum for goverment affairs.

~~ Well hell fire damn,let me straighten Corker out first... how can a person set aside money for retirement when they don't have enough left out of their pay checks to pay the bills every month and maybe even have enough to buy groceries. In the REAL world, for the majority of Americans they are one pay check away from being homeless. How out of touch can a Rich little man be, oh, i forgot, corker is in bed with giving Unum taxpayers money to dole out as they see fit... can anyone see how that will work out for you!!!

`` Tom Watjen, President and CEO of Chattanooga-based Unum, said he hoped the report will spark a "meaningful conversation. The more the PRIVATE sector can provide solutions for individuals to protect themselves at a relatively low cost, that can have a VERY positive effect on things like Social Security and other issues that are being debated right now.

`~ U.S. Sen. Bob Corker, expressed his support last week for the industry's goals, which were outlined in a report by Charles River and Associates.

~~ Unum Profits up 8.7%

~` By God , you are going to have to buy insurance. If you have a JOB, make that a LAW!! You "DEADBEATS" might not have a place to live or any thing to eat, but you are going to have insurance!!!

August 4, 2011 at 12:20 p.m.
woody said...

Ollie..what you had to say, in regards to Ramsey at 8:32 a.m., was 'spot on', and perhaps even scarier than some of the things Haslam has done, in the name of fiscal conservatism. Scarier still..we here in Tennessee can't even begin to address all of our state-wide issues, nor those on the federal level until late next year.

Oh wait..the conservatives aren't worried..unless a lot of temporarily disenfranchised voters manage to get all those conservative legisltor-required photo i.d.s. I'm thinking the November 2012 elections will be quite interesting..Woody

August 4, 2011 at 1:03 p.m.
alprova said...

WASHINGTON - In other news today, despite opposition from Republicans in Congress, President Obama celebrated his 50th birthday today.

"It's just another ploy to divert the attention of the American people from his real agenda," said Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell. "While he's pretending to be celebrating his birthday, he's secretly scheming to raise taxes on patriots who provide the jobs."

House Speaker, John Boehner, also weighed in on the matter.

"The timing of his birthday is suspect in my opinion," He quipped. "While we are on our break, the President will be secretly meeting with God only knows who, under the premise of inviting them to his celebratory dinner and when we return to Washington, he will have made another half-dozen recess appointments."

Republican Representative, Eric Cantor, spoke with us by phone and he had a few words to add as well. "How dare he take the focus off of the problems that this country is facing to spend time calling attention to something as lame as the human aging process. Every senior citizen in this nation should be up in arms and offended by his demeanor."

Presidential candidate and Representative, Michelle Bachmann, opined, "I find it interesting that it was back in the 1970s that the swine flu broke out then under another Democrat president Jimmy Carter. And I'm not blaming this on President Obama, I just think it's an interesting coincidence."

When asked what swine flu had to do with the President's birthday by another reporter, she quickly replied, "Little children will be forced to learn that homosexuality is normal and natural and perhaps they should try it."

The President plans to have a quiet family gathering in their residence at the White House later this evening.

August 4, 2011 at 5 p.m.
rolando said...

Hm-m-m. No one has noticed, huh? Sounds to me like the Governor is doing a great job.

August 4, 2011 at 5:01 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Rolando said: No one has noticed, huh? Sounds to me like the Governor is doing a great job.

Is that you, Governor Haslam?

August 4, 2011 at 5:44 p.m.
Clara said...

White-haired and admittedly dumb about a lot of things, I find your comments most egregious and unhealthy. You took it, as a newcomer to this blog, to latch on to the plea that Clay avoids anything that makes the Democrats seem bad. I think Alprova covered that remark adequately. As another Party of One (POO) I find your assessment what passes for the usual TROLL drivel we find on this blog. In fact, it sounds a great deal like the stuff put out by a recently exposed Troll.

I have no need to expand further on the term.


August 4, 2011 at 6:22 p.m.
fairmon said...

Bennett accoplishes his obvious objective of creating chatter and debate among those reacting and ranting about the subject at times, like me, drifting to other subjjets.


Did you attend Obama's fund raiser at the bargain price of $35,000 per head? I wonder how he got so many wealthy people to participate with all his criticism of the wealthy?

August 4, 2011 at 7:19 p.m.
fairmon said...


Has anyone approached the city council about funding this local facility? I would be supportive of funding it with the $2 million now provided the cities arts crafts education department. Surely there are enough people willing to donate to make up for the $774,000 that is not coming from the state to prevent closing the facility. Is it a candidate to be a member of the United Way? People have to ask themselves if the arts museum, recreation facilities and other city spending is more important than providing for these children. 2700 families should be able to raise an average of $287 each. Do I have the right numbers?

I am truly sorry these children are so adversely affected by the although I can understand the need to reduce spending but I don't know what should be cut and what should not. Based on what I understand this facility should have higher priority. What is needed are more people working (jobs) so they could buy more and increase tax revenue. It appears the economy may get a lot worse instead of better. The agreement Boehner and Reid came up with that was signed by Obama is not in our best interest.

August 4, 2011 at 7:47 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Harp3339 said: "Has anyone approached the city council about funding this local facility?"

I just read a TFP article that says the grant for the TEAM Center will probably be extended:

NASHVILLE — A top state official said today he likely will extend for another 12 months a $774,000 grant to Chattanooga-based TEAM Centers Inc. to give the provider more time to pursue alternative funding sources for the diagnostic and treatment services it provides local people with mental disabilities.

“I’m probably going to to give them another year,” state Intellectual and Developmental Disabilities Commissioner Jim Henry told the Times Free Press. “The legislature can do what it wants to, but we’re probably going to extend this grant.”

August 4, 2011 at 8:09 p.m.
fairmon said...


Thanks. That is good news. At least those families have time to do something. If the economy for whatever reason improves perhaps things will work out for the best. You know I prefer the lowest possible level of government handle things in their realm. However, that only works if it is applied state wide or nation wide. Before you blast me I know many things have to be a national or state initiative.

August 4, 2011 at 9:57 p.m.
alprova said...

Harp3339 wrote: Alprova, Did you attend Obama's fund raiser at the bargain price of $35,000 per head?

Uh no. I'm a kinda write a check for a hundred dollars or so kinda guy, but I don't fault him for seeking to add to his election fund by whatever means is necessary.

I wonder how he got so many wealthy people to participate with all his criticism of the wealthy?

He doesn't criticize the wealthy. He simply believes, like a lot of people that the wealthy should be willing to give up more of what they have to fund the Government, and there are wealthy people out there, believe it or not, who agree with him.

August 4, 2011 at 11:48 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

I wish Obama would leave, unnoticed. A permanent vacation. One can always dream...

August 5, 2011 at 1:01 a.m.
dude_abides said...

BRP... sorta like Bush, you mean? Not much of an elder statesman, that Bush. Of course, it's hard to toss in your opinions if you never really had any original thoughts on anything. Maybe one of your "Tree of Liberty" friends will take care of that Obama problem for you.

A tip for teabaggers: a Rolaid munched up but not swallowed will help keep mouth foaming in check. Also, a little Great Stuff squirted in each ear will dampen brain vibration and squirming.

August 5, 2011 at 8:20 a.m.
OllieH said...

Rolando- I'm curious, what exactly is the 'great job' that Governor Haslam is doing?

Bill Haslam strikes me as the 'Colonel Blake' of Tennessee. If you've ever watched the show MASH, you'll remember Henry Blake as the bumbling colonel who would sign just about any form or requisition that company clerk Radar O'Reilly would put in front of him. I guess Ron Ramsey would the company clerk in Haslam's case.

Keeping with the TV theme, I agree with Livn4life's observation that Haslam bears a striking resemblance to Dana Carvey. It's something I've noticed as well, and it goes beyond just physical appearance. Haslam reminds me a lot of Dana Carvey doing his impression of George H. W. Bush.

August 5, 2011 at 8:38 a.m.
Clara said...

$35,000 A PLATE? That's a lot of moolah. How many attended?

If it was 300, that would give about 1,000 people in the poverty level at retirement a years substanance each. That's with a bit of budgeting and no hard luck incidents.

August 5, 2011 at 10:42 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

dude_abides said... "Maybe one of your "Tree of Liberty" friends will take care of that Obama problem for you"

We all intend to take care of that Obama problem by voting him out of office in 2012. Please do not project the violent tendencies of you and the rest of the street progressives on Tea Party sympathizers.

August 5, 2011 at 11:07 a.m.
Clara said...

Now, if you consider it ax families receiving it, say with 2 children, they'd need quite a bit more each. I'll leave it to you financial geniuses to figure it out. (genii or as written?)

August 5, 2011 at 11:11 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

OllieH said: "Bill Haslam strikes me as the 'Colonel Blake' of Tennessee."

Clearly, Governor Bill Haslam has much lower standards than Mash's Colonel Blake, OllieH. I simply don’t trust any politician that is anti-disclosure when it comes to the financial investments of high public officials, and Governor Haslam is obviously one of these politicians. One of the first things that Governor Haslam did after getting elected was to eliminate the financial transparency and openness standard that had been set-up by former Governor Phil Bredesen. This move told me all I needed to know about Governor Haslam. He is just one more politician in office with low ethical standards, which can only lead to more political corruption and chronic conflict of interest scenarios at the expense of the Tennessee taxpayers.

August 5, 2011 at 11:40 a.m.
rolando said...

Since Clay and The Times-Free Press bury their respective talents and influence covering trifles, don't expect to read anything about the following on this online edition...or the newsprint edition, for that matter. See:

Obama, Holder Busted in Gunwalker Cover-up by Roger Hedgecock

"Kenneth Melson was supposed to be the fall guy, the sacrificial lamb, the guy thrown under the bus to protect President Obama. Melson was "expected" to resign. He refused.

"Instead, Melson, acting director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) has turned whistle-blower and all hell is about to explode over the operation dubbed by Obama's Justice Department "Fast and Furious" but now known as the Gunwalker scandal.

"It looks like the Obama regime financed (partly with "stimulus" funds) an $80 million program to allow straw buyers to purchase hundreds of weapons from federally licensed gun shops in Southwest states, over the objection of the shop owners, and then allowed these weapons to "walk" across the Mexican border into the waiting arms of the murderous Mexican drug cartels..."

Mr Hedgecock goes on at some length, naming names, giving dates and details, ending with, "Isn't it time someone asked the age-old question, "What did the President know, and when did he know it?"

August 5, 2011 at 3:08 p.m.
rolando said...

Well, ollieH, for starters Haslam hasn't destroyed the economy of the state of Tennessee, despite legislative attempts to tax businesses right out of the state. That's hardly being a "rubber stamp". To me, that is doing a great job.

Which is a whole lot more than can be said for that totally incompetent idiot you voted into the White House.

August 5, 2011 at 3:15 p.m.
rolando said...

"I wish Obama would leave, unnoticed. "

BigRidge, with the Gunwalker scandal that might happen sooner than we think. It is past time to impeach the idiot for conspiracy to commit illegal gun sales and other high crimes.

so he isn't removed from office... So what? He will become one of three successfully impeached Presidents...great thing for his legacy.

August 5, 2011 at 3:24 p.m.
rick1 said...

rolando: Very little is being mentioned by the MSM that $10 million for Gunrunner program was in the stimulus bill.

Check out this link of the stimulus bill. It is listed under Section 5, Division A, Title II under the heading of "Office of Justice Programs" It is highlighted in blue.

August 5, 2011 at 7:55 p.m.
fairmon said...

Haslam is a light weight compared to national politics. Haslam has no legal option except to balance the budget. We can complain about how he does that or we can pay more taxes or tax and destroy businesses in the state and lose jobs which reduces tax revenue. Have you checked out some of the legislatures we give him to work with? Surely there needs to be a well written validated qualification criteria to be eligible to serve in such a responsible position.

I don't like Obama because I don't think he has a clue why the economy is tanking and why more jobs aren't available to people. However, congress and the federal reserve are the problem. Congress has increased the complexity of the tax codes which is full of accommodations to their supporters and wealthy individuals. The federal reserve just completed printing enough money to increase the money in circulation by 138.6% which decreases the value and purchasing power of the dollar. We will see prices increase 2X to 4X and but the debt can be serviced in lower value dollars.

Once the dollar ceases being the world's reserve currency and the credit rating is lowered we will be in worse shape then Greece. At that point there will be so many looking to the government for assistance the government can't accommodate them. Rating agencies say they will drop the rating due to their view the U.S. government doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to make essential changes and spending reductions.

In addition to curbing discretionary spending why would it not be reasonable to eliminate non essential spending and freeze all spending at current levels until the debt is no greater than 18% of the GDP?

August 5, 2011 at 8:02 p.m.
fairmon said...

Alprova said... Uh no. I'm a kinda write a check for a hundred dollars or so kinda guy, but I don't fault him for seeking to add to his election fund by whatever means is necessaryUh no. I'm a kinda write a check for a hundred dollars or so kinda guy, but I don't fault him for seeking to add to his election fund by whatever means is necessary.

I limit mine to $50 to independent candidates. The only party contribution made was to Pelosi's opponent in California simply because I dislike her so much. I was hoping Reid would not lose to the nut case running against him. Obama would be wise not to trust anyone as ambitious and evil as Pelosi. I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw his desk.

I don't suspect him of any inapproprate fund raising efforts but by "whatever means" is a little too open ended for me for any of them.

August 5, 2011 at 8:13 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Is that what the pro-teabagger folks are, BRP, sympathizers? How whimsically quaint. Makes me want to clasp my hands together and tilt my head. You could have, had you been predisposed, noticed that the line you quoted was separate from the teabagger tips. When I say "Tree of Liberty" people I am speaking of your leg strapped buddies that show up in public espousing insurrection, all of whom may not be teabaggers. Feel free to continue to meld statements to your purpose, though, we are quite used to it after two terms of that joke you cats are trying to scratch piles of dirt on.

August 5, 2011 at 9:19 p.m.
fairmon said...

It is official, S&P has downgraded U.S. debt from AAA to AA+. Once the illegal super committee finishes it could get worse since they are only looking for 1 trillion instead of the 4 trillion the agencies say is needed. All aboard, the train is leaving the station, your engineer is POTUS Obama with conductors Boehner and Reid.

August 5, 2011 at 9:24 p.m.
mymy said...

Yes, The Bomb is setting a lot of records for the history books! He sure got his and he will get more in 2012!

August 5, 2011 at 10:01 p.m.

It should be engineer Obama and conductors Pelosi and Reid. John Boehner is not responsible for the damage done by the Democratic party controlled congress.

I was a dumb blonde when I voted for Barack Obama in 2008. I couldn't possibly be more sorry.

I apologize to the nation.

August 5, 2011 at 10:04 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Yeah, I used to vote conservative until I realized God was watching, and that He loathes selfish, hypocritical fascists. I, too, apologize to the Nazion.

August 5, 2011 at 10:53 p.m.
tderng said...

blondebutnotdumb...welcome back from the dark side.

August 5, 2011 at 10:53 p.m.
fairmon said...


Boehner was complicit in what amounts to treating a potentially terminal cancer with aspirin. Bush participated in and allowed congress to engage in uncontrolled spending then Obama stepped on the accelerator. Who is to blame is not relevant. Once Obama and his team and congress get through saying it is not fair they need to get to work and do what is necessary.

Rating agencies have no party preference or loyalty. They only know that the U.S. debt and spending is around 100% of GDP and that it is worse than their creative book keeping indicates. This will affect every person in the country, some very soon.

August 5, 2011 at 11:24 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

I received a quaint letter from Lamar Alexander today telling me how he was proud to vote for the debt ceiling compromise. Is this rino going to be primaried this time around by a true conservative?

August 5, 2011 at 11:35 p.m.
fairmon said...

First time since around 1917 the U.S. credit rating is less than AAA. Countries still rated AAA; Australia, Austria, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Guernsey, Hong Kong, Isle of Man, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Swiss Confederation, United Kingdom.

So much for hope and change. Dang, this isn't the change most had in mind. Be careful what you wish for. No wonder we didn't have a budget for over 2 years.

August 5, 2011 at 11:42 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

This sounds about right...




Even Bennett might be able to make a funny cartoon out of that.

August 5, 2011 at 11:43 p.m.
fairmon said...

We need a national fund raiser at $35,000 from each attending. Confiscate all campaign funds. Instead of a balanced budget amendment have an amendment that disqualifies any congressman in office for re-election if the budget is not balanced and the debt reduced by 3% annually.

August 5, 2011 at 11:50 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Harp3339 said: "First time since around 1917 the U.S. credit rating is less than AAA. Countries still rated AAA; Australia, Austria, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Guernsey, Hong Kong, Isle of Man, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Swiss Confederation, United Kingdom. So much for hope and change."

All of these countries also put people before profits and have universal healthcare systems, Harp3339. Needless to say, the Republicans messed this up for America as well.

August 6, 2011 at 12:22 a.m.
fairmon said...

How do you conclude both parties didn't participate? One won't raise taxes, the other won's reduce over spending. Neither seems willing to get out of the middle east and other military bases in countries that could pay for their own defense. Those with AAA ratings are all on credit watch. Keep in mind the ratinng agencies are always late. They downgraded Enron 6 days before they filed bankruptcy. They down graded the financial sector around the time Lehman failed. In other words we have been on been on life support for several months. Keep on believing and when your dollar is worth one half or less than today keep the faith.

August 6, 2011 at 9:05 a.m.
stanleyyelnats said...

I wonder how much this little tax payer vacation cost the tax payer?

August 6, 2011 at 10:24 a.m.
chet123 said...

harp339...those counties didnt have a crazy republican tea party who main purpose is to work against the president....but i fault obama for trying too long to work with these bozos...they will never work with ....he should have used the 14th amendment....not showing leadership at all

August 8, 2011 at 5:19 p.m.
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