published Saturday, August 20th, 2011

Vacation

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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GlacierClipper said...

Yet the President takes a 10 day vacation and the price for the lodging is around 50,000 and he goes to play golf.....some in the news media says he deserves a vacation. Congress took a vacation as well. None of the power brokers in DC deserves a vacation, they have not done anything to help the economy. President even went as far as saying the earthquake in Japan was a reason our economy was on the downfall. He should put his foot where his mouth is and face the facts, his economic stimulus package was a complete failure. Where are the jobs? Congress is on an out of town "DC" vacation, when they go back to DC it will be a vacation also.

August 20, 2011 at 1:14 a.m.
alprova said...

Whining about the President not creating jobs is much like Blaming God for a prayer that is not granted. No President can force any private enterprise to expand it's workforce.

Sales are what drives a company to expand and to create jobs, and until the day comes that people turn loose of more money and start to spend it, sales are going to suffer.

Years of our workforce being transformed from that of a manufacturing base to that of becoming a service based economy has also caught up with many of us. Wal-Mart has become this nation's and the world's number one employer and the world's largest company. That should tell you a lot.

Wal-Mart is followed by the U.S. Postal Service, McDonald's is third, UPS is fourth, IBM is fifth, Sears is sixth, Target is seventh, General Motors is eighth, General Electric is ninth, and Citigroup finishes in tenth place.

Look at the list. Only two manufacturers make the list of the top ten employers in this nation. Three decades ago the entire top ten list would have been made up of manufacturers.

We as a nation, are going through an adjustment period after many years of record sales and record consumer spending. People whipped out credit cards and spent money like it grew on trees. Eventually those bills were going to have to be paid and now people are paying them and clamping down on the spending because they are scared. Hardly anyone in this country does not know someone who has lost a job within the past four years. Many have lost more than one job.

The rise in unemployment is a direct result in people reducing on a monthly rate what they are spending. The fact that unemployment has continued to stay high is a direct result of the loss of so many manufacturing jobs in this nation. And nothing gives anyone any reason to think that those jobs are ever coming back home either.

So this recession is going to last awhile. The President is powerless to do much about it. Tax incentives to lure companies back to the United States have not worked. Tax breaks are not working and they never have worked. Abolishing unions has almost been completed in this nation and yet the jobs have not returned.

So, the excuses are wearing thin as to why jobs have been being off-shored and eliminated in this country. The President has done all that he can to persuade employers to reinvest in America.

They are as scared as the rest of us and are holding on to their reserves.

When people open up their wallets, things will start to improve. Until then, I guess we'll just have to get used to so many fingers pointed at the President, as if he has a magic wand in his pocket that he is failing to wave away our troubles.

August 20, 2011 at 3:44 a.m.
alprova said...

The interesting thing to note at this point is that the Republicans elected on the basis that they were going to improve the economy and create jobs have failed miserably to do anything at all. Not one bill has been introduced that has addressed jobs in this nation.

All these Republicans and Tea-Partiers have done is to make outlandish statements about how the President's policies are ruining the economy and then have worked feverishly to obstruct any and all legislation that comes down the pike.

These people have been in office almost nine months and what have they done? Nothing at all. Now I know why that is, but some of you don't seem to comprehend reality.

There's nothing they can do. They made some tall promises based on the fact that there's nothing they can do to change the course of this recession. It's got to run its course. It will take time.

In the meantime, by all means swallow their B.S. like a fishing lure and keep voting 'em in. You're only hurting yourselves.

Bill Clinton was a brilliant man. He never made promises that he couldn't keep. His standard line was that he "felt the pain" people had when suffering economically. At least he was a realist and knew that his powers were limited as President.

August 20, 2011 at 3:57 a.m.
anniebelle said...

Here are a few 'facts' about our previous president's vacation days. Of course, he was white, so that's allowed.

From Eric Alterman, distinguished Professor of English, Brooklyn College, City University of New York

Think Again: Remember Bush's Vacation

By the end of August, though Bush had only been in office since January 20, he had already managed 96 days of vacation time, or nearly 14 times as much as most Americans enjoyed during that period. As it happens, Bush ended up setting a presidential record for vacation days taken, more than 500 days over the course of his two administrations or an unbelievable 40 percent of his presidency.

We all know what happened at the end of Bush's 2001 vacation, and that, dear reader, is the real reason for this column. With the coming 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, we are about to be treated to a great many attempts by conservatives, aided by a remarkably ahistorical mainstream media, to rewrite the history of those events. As with almost every significant aspect of the Bush presidency, its handling of 9/11 was a catastrophe from start to finish. To illustrate this one could pick almost any aspect of the Bush administration's handling of those attacks--both in preparation in protecting the nation or its disastrous response that brought the world's hatred upon our heads and involved us in an unnecessary and counterproductive war in Iraq and failed to do the necessary job in Afghanistan--as well as compromised civil liberties in the United States, among many other unhappy consequences.

It's sad that this nation has become proud to flaunt it's unabashed bigotry and ignorance of history or facts.

August 20, 2011 at 5:44 a.m.
woody said...

All I ask is that the voters should remember this come next election. Yeah..like that's going to happen..Woody

August 20, 2011 at 6:21 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

President takes one too--thank God, since most of what he's done is bad news.

August 20, 2011 at 6:26 a.m.

Ms. Anniebelle,

Again with George W. Bush on this site! How absurd to try and blame George W. Bush for the attacks on 9/11. I'm not sure what type of institution Brooklyn College is, though I can guess it's pretty partisan, like this cartoonist's cartoons. I do know one thing, our current president has no problem partying and taking many expensive vacations at a time when most people are struggling to keep their heads above water. He's not displaying much empathy.

August 20, 2011 at 6:58 a.m.
EaTn said...

The bad news is the President and Congress are on vacation--the good news is the President and Congress are not in DC to further destroy the world economy with their gridlocks and half-witted partisan political pandering.

August 20, 2011 at 7:13 a.m.
rolando said...

Doing nothing is thousands of time better than what the Congress of two years ago did to us, woody...and they did it in cahoots with the new Prez, whatshisname.

Leaving us alone is the best thing going.

"We have to pass it in order to find out what's in it." -- Queen Pelosi.

August 20, 2011 at 8:02 a.m.
GMills said...

I know you have trouble with this rolando... His name is President Obama. Get used to it. You will see it for a few more years.

August 20, 2011 at 8:31 a.m.
moon4kat said...

How simplistic -- and simple-minded -- to think that Obama is the cause of everything that's wrong. We've got a complicated system of government in which big campaign contributors have too much influence, and about which far too many citizens are basically ignorant. Obama hasn't lived up to my highest expectations, but he's certainly not the cause of most of our current economic malaise.

August 20, 2011 at 8:35 a.m.
GreenKepi said...

Hang on 'moon4kat', hang on...keep arraigning your deck-chairs on the Titanic....

August 20, 2011 at 8:52 a.m.
moon4kat said...

GreenKepi -- what prompts you to write meaningless nonsense like that?

August 20, 2011 at 8:54 a.m.
hambone said...

The first thing Boehner and the new house members did this year was to announce that they would work 2 weeks and take 1 week off.

AND THEY NEED A VACATION TOO !!!

August 20, 2011 at 8:56 a.m.
sd said...

Regardless of what we think about our representatives' performance (or lack of), people need to take vacations, even if it's just time off to rest at home. It's not healthy to work constantly without leisure time. People in high-stress jobs should absolutely take regular breaks from their work.

I don't understand why people compare and contrast the number of days Presidents went on vacation, as though vacation days are somehow relevant to performance. They're not.

August 20, 2011 at 9:52 a.m.
timbo said...

No responsible person would take a vacation during an emergency. The fact that some of you think so is an indication why this country is in trouble. All you business owners out there know that if the baby cries you have to take care of it. This is absolutely ludicrous that the almighty Obama doesn't get it. It is no wonder with his lack of any business experience.

Unemployment is not good, but there are jobs out there that some people won't do. Maybe they should reexamine their priorities. Also, when you get 2 years, I mean 2 years!!!! of unemployment what incentive is their to take a job at McDonalds. McDonalds needs people all the time but they only line up for jobs at Wacker. Swallow your pride and go to work.

While everyone is on vacation, I will stick around and make money.

August 20, 2011 at 10:40 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

This cartoon is Typical Bennett, the rest of the world is talking about BO going on vacation and Clay thinks letting Lawmakers go back to their constituents and talk to them about what is going on in Washington is a bad idea. Leftists want to keep lawmakers in Washington were they lose touch with reality and start to believe everything they hear from the MSM. Bennett’s message is almost always wrong or at least a stupid distraction from the important issues.

August 20, 2011 at 10:52 a.m.
mymy said...

This deserves critism. The Queen also pulled this stunt on one of their vacation to Hawaii. She had to go several days early. Talk about loving to spend our money:

"Michelle Obama was revealed to have arrived at the Massachusetts retreat, only 500 miles from Washington, four hours before her husband yesterday. She was accompanied by their daughters and landed at around 2pm - four hours earlier than the President. The extra transport to get the the First Lady to the island for only a few more hours of vacation time will have cost taxpayers thousands in additional expenses. The costs related to Mrs Obama’s solo trip mainly include the flight on the specially designed military aircraft she took instead of Air Force One, as well as any extra staff and Secret Service that had to be enlisted to go with her. She would also have had her own motorcade from the airport to her vacation residence. The President had already drawn scorn for using two helicopters and Air Force One to get to Martha's Vineyard. He yesterday left the White House aboard Marine One on his way to Andrews Air Force base to hitch a lift aboard Air Force One - along with First Dog Bo. After landing at Cape Cod Coast Guard Air Station, he then took a final helicopter to his holiday destination to complete the remarkable 500-mile journey."

Come September we will get his 9th speech re jobs. The final set up for him to campaign on since he has nothing so far. He will suggest the same old same old stuff which he knows the Republicans will not go along with then he can continue the blame about Congress. What a joke.

71% of the American people say they do not approve of The Bombs handling of the economy. Looks like it will get worse. Both the econony and his numbers.

August 20, 2011 at 12:18 p.m.
fairmon said...

Good news is the congress and POTUS get a vacation. Bad news is the congress and POTUS will only be vacationing for one month. Medicare is a drain on the budget, that is an undeniable fact. Claims amount to around 40-50% more per month than tax and premiums revenue. Solution, require the same amount from the general treasury go to medicare as interest paid on the debt. Don't confuse social security and medicare, two totally different issues. Social Security is now viable for 20+ years, decreased unemployment to around 5% extends that.

August 20, 2011 at 1:13 p.m.
Rufus_T_Firefly said...

More and more I see Republicans manifesting a disconnect from reality.

Are Republicans so far removed from the 21st century as not to appreciate how simple it is for someone to work from home in today's modern world.

I certainly do understand and appreciate the Republican desire to live in the past. To live in a world that is not real.

But even a Republican can appreciate how easy it is with 21st century technology to be a productive worker while sitting in my living room.

I can log into my computer in my office and be just as productive as if I were in my office! Do Republicans not appreciate this fact? Are Republicans so far removed from the REAL world they can't comprehend this simple fact?

Do Republicans really believe the earth is flat?

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August 20, 2011 at 1:17 p.m.
woody said...

Rolando..I believe you've left out a few other presidents and their respective congresses, but I must say, your post was quite lucid compared to a few others I can remember from the recent past.

Are you getting back to (what I might consider) normal, or am I just hoping too much??..Woody

August 20, 2011 at 1:26 p.m.
fairmon said...

One fine senator says unemployment and food stamps are stimulus for the economy. He suggested that for each dollar spent on unemployment and food stamps generated $1.65 value to the economy. Hello, what a break through, put everyone on food stamps and unemployment. Those importing to us would love it since the major portion of what most peoples spend is on imports. Oil to make gas for our cars is imported, try to find any clothing made in America, check the country of origin on many foods and furniture, electronics including TVs, cell phones, computers and other items are imported. Most household appliances are imported. Why did the stimulus not help create jobs other than with some retailers and those countries we import from?

In my opinion the following would address the issue:

1-Tax the wealthy more, up to 50% of all over one million, it won't hurt the economy. Treating capital gains as ordinary income will not hurt the economy but may cause some of the wealthy to move their investments or pay more taxes. Most will pay the higher taxes.

2-Create a permanent predictable, not temporary, business tax and regulatory environment that protects people but provides an incentive to produce goods in the U.S. including low tech that pays decent wages but can be done by those with no or low technical ability. Allow those now healthy and willing but dependent to have the opportunity to achieve self esteem and be a contributor instead of needing assistance.

3-Allow regulated drilling and accessing of our vast energy resources including natural gas, oil and coal. Millions of jobs are created to locate, drill, produce, transport and distribute our own energy resources. It would go a long way toward peace in the middle east when American wealth was no longer transferred to them.

4-Allow the dollar to stay at an even greater reduced value which makes imports more expensive and exports cheaper. China, Japan, India and others keep their currency artificially low to increase imports to the U.S. and others.

5-Provide extended patten protection and tax incentives for those creating competitive viable energy alternatives without grants and subsidies.

6-Stop funding 40-50% of state budgets through grants and incentives to manipulate and control local and state governments. Re-establish state sovereignty.

7-Stop trying to buy peace and good will with outrageous amounts of foreign aid. It is time to admit we can no longer afford to borrow money to do that.

I would like to hear why these won't work? Why do politicians not understand what has worked in the past before all the trade agreements and increased imports don't work now? Reduce taxes and we buy more imports, send out stimulus checks and we buy more imports and U.S. unemployment goes up.

August 20, 2011 at 2:12 p.m.
rick1 said...

Government can't create jobs but government polices can either encourage or discourage economy growth. Unfortunately Obama has put in place anti-economic growth, nonmarket federal government programs and regulations.

Here are some examples of his anti economic growth polices:

  1. ObamaCare, which increases costs for businesses with 50 or more employees, thus acting as an incentive to hold the number of workers hired to less than 50.

  2. $789 billion stimulus package, which Obama sais would create jobs. This has been a complete failure in its objectives. Unemployment is currently 9.1%, with 25 million people unemployed, underemployed or having given up looking for work. After Obama told unemplyment would not go above 8% if it was passed.

  3. The Dodd-Frank Finance Reform Bill and EPA both have placed anti-growth regulatory constraints on American business.

  4. According to Wayne Crews of the Competitive Enterprise Institute, there’s currently more than 4,000 new regulations in the pipeline and a record 81,405 pages of new rules were created in the Federal Register during 2010. According to the Heritage Foundation, In the first half of 2011 alone, $38 billion in new costs were added, “more than any comparable period on record,”

Obama needs to repeal these anit business growth policies and use pro-growth, market-oriented solutions.

August 20, 2011 at 2:36 p.m.
fairmon said...

It is obvious that countries engaged in wealth creating activities which is transforming something or things of a lesser value to something of greater value (manufacturing) have growing economies with a growing middle class. The U.S. has around 10-11% manufacturing jobs now compared to around 50% in the 50s and 60s. Check out the decline in jobs, wealth, wages and the increase in debt. On a line chart the decreased wealth and employment line will track the same as the reduced manufacturing line. A line chart of both will go from the upper left to the lower right. We have become a service society which only moves wealth around but never creates wealth.

Rufus_T_Firefly is correct. Many functions can be performed just as well from home as in an office if the work requires nothing but interacting by phone or providing some service requiring no personal interaction. Where possible this should be encouraged to reduce traffic, travel cost plus the cost of providing work space. However, those jobs are service oriented and while necessary, perhaps even essential, they create no wealth. The service industries move wealth from one individual to another but never increases the value of anything that if you drop it on your foot it hurts or may break.

The typical order of increased wealth for most emerging economies has been first textiles, second electronics then automobiles. Those with mining resources (oil, metals, coal etc.) have grown wealthier faster. Americans and our governments keep buying their goods with the limited wealth we create and borrowed money. Their citizens are moving up the wealth chain as more and more Americans drop down.

August 20, 2011 at 2:46 p.m.
fairmon said...

Rick1..

You are so right. Various agencies are creating self serving, job protecting regulations so fast no member of congress can possibly know about and consider all the ramifications and adverse impact without good reason that many result in. It is another example of an out of control government that is too big for any human in either party to manage. It is sad when the legal advice to an employer is if you don't comply with this regulation you can get a lawsuit. However, if you do comply with this you can get a lawsuit for violating another regulation. Congress has abdicated their responsibility by empowering some agencies to issue regulations and levy fines without approval from congress. There is a tremendous difference in delegating and abdicating responsibility. Notice how many members of congress brag about sponsoring or co sponsoring more legislation. They crank it like a pez machine and never kill any legislation, they just add it to the pile. We do not know with how little intelligence we are governed.

August 20, 2011 at 3 p.m.
hambone said...

" Our number one priority is to make Obama a one term president"

True patriots place country above all else!!!

August 20, 2011 at 3:13 p.m.
BobMKE said...

The bottom line is that the companies/businesses are sitting on their capitol because they do not like Obama's policies Esp. Obamacare. They are going to wait until after the election.

August 20, 2011 at 3:25 p.m.
limric said...

Congress’ five-week summer vacation could not come soon enough; these dedicated public servants have to work 24 weeks a year to avoid agreeing or disagreeing, with only 28 weeks of paid vacation annually to avoid working.

Representatives returned to the states they call home for the August recess and all the grateful people they represent. Most leaders showed visible signs of duress, after having subsisted only on caviar, Perrier, and hyperbole throughout their entire time spent in Washington. Upon returning, many representatives wished to interact with the “little people” that elected them. However, they soon found themselves alone. Streets appeared to be deserted, as very few little people could be found outside. They soon realized most people had barricaded themselves inside their homes as a safety precaution. As Chattanooga resident BigRidgePatriot said, “It’s for their own good. If I don’t lock myself in, I may do something rash. And I don’t have diplomatic immunity.” ;-)

Regardless, most inanimate objects are thrilled that summer recess can finally begin; especially jets, yachts, and Senator Mitch McConnell, who was elated at returning once more to Kentucky. After sliding into the local pond and reuniting with his turtle friends, McConnell then turned his attention to the oil well being built in his backyard. For hours he whispered sweet nothings into the hole in the ground; then slowly he mounted it, offering to screw Mother Nature just a wee bit more.

Back in California - behind a local 7-11. Nancy Pelosi was thrilled to announce to an audience of 9 that a bill she sponsored, ‘A Congressional Declaration that puppies are cute’ was passed by both the house and senate. “This congress has every right to be proud of their accomplishments. And a little thank you would be nice once in a while. ” She exclaimed.

August 20, 2011 at 3:25 p.m.
timbo said...

Rufus_T_Firefly.....LIVING IN THE PAST, you are on drugs. Only an idiot would through away tried and true business and government concepts for the "new" national socialism that the Obama apologists are advocating. It has failed in the old Soviet Union, it has failed in Europe, and it has failed in this country.

Can you comprehend that sitting in your home on a computer produces nothing? Do you make a television or even the computer you are on. Without conservative businessmen you would'nt even have any products to use.

The person who thinks the earth is flat is the one that continues to do the same stupid crap with the same stupid result. That's you buddy. Liberals like you remind me of the Holiday Inn Express commercial. Your not an expert but you stayed at a liberal Holiday Inn Express last night. This diatribe is getting old, grow up.

August 20, 2011 at 3:29 p.m.
Selah said...

Vote Democrat or pay for the continued consequences of your actions. Period

August 20, 2011 at 3:44 p.m.
timbo said...

Selah... voting for a democrat is like the rat voting for the snake. This is collective stupidity.

August 20, 2011 at 3:52 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

limric said... "these dedicated public servants have to work 24 weeks a year"

24 weeks is too many. The more time they spend in Washington the dumber they get. 4 to 8 weeks sounds like plenty to me.

August 20, 2011 at 8:21 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

hambone said... "True patriots place country above all else!!!"

And the most important thing we can do to help this country is to get Obama out of office. So, true patriots invest time every day doing what they can to retire Obama!

August 20, 2011 at 8:24 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

limric said... "As Chattanooga resident BigRidgePatriot said, “It’s for their own good. If I don’t lock myself in, I may do something rash. And I don’t have diplomatic immunity.” ;-)

What, like go to work for the Ron Paul campaign?

August 20, 2011 at 8:30 p.m.
fairmon said...

Facts you can confirm:

O The U.S. has the highest corporate tax rate in the world since Japan lowered theirs. Corporations lobby and pay high dollar accounting firms to use all the loop holes congress provides. Those most critical to the economy pay a high rate while the financial sector including big banks, brokers and insurers pay very little.

o Over 3,000 companies have legally moved their HQ to Zug, Switzerland and to Dublin, Ireland to get their lower tax rates at a cost of billions in tax revenue to the U.S. government.

o More companies will be moving this year and moving their CEO and other high paid managers to those countries as well which means those tax dollars will also be lost by the U.S.

o U.S. companies have over 1.2 trillion, yes that is 1.2 trillion, trapped over seas since returning it to the U.S. would result in them paying the highest in the world corporate rate of 35% on that money.

Why do we cling to an antiquated tax system that enables congress to manipulate it and show favor to some and not to others. Notice how those that contribute most seem to get the the breaks. Banks, brokers and unions own the dems and oil and energy and some insurers own the pubs. Is it not time to simplify the business tax system by eliminating all loop holes and setting a fair competitive flat rate for U S businesses?

Would we have a debt and budget problem if those companies had their HQ in the U.S. and paid 17% on all profits? Would they produce more in the U.S. at that rate and with less unnecessary regulation and legislation? Would they expand and hire Americans? I truly believe those CEOs that say the answer is yes.

August 20, 2011 at 8:59 p.m.
rolando said...

well, woody, I can't recall any other Congress that passed something as stupid as the unread ObamaCare...at least not since the National Recovery Act FDR rammed down our throats. That were totally your side's doing...they are your baby.

O'Care was about the only thing your Senate could agree on...and after they passed it [without one Repub vote] and found out what was in it, it scared the bejesus out of them. Hence all their distancing themselves from The Hussein...to no avail, unfortunately for them.

Now every so often, you and I agree on something and this just happened to be one of them. But your definition of "normal behavior" just kinds sticks in my craw and I doubt I will be subscribing to it anytime soon...so I guess you are just hoping too much for something that just ain't gonna happen.

But remaining civil is something that can happen.

In closing, exactly which posts of mine made you say, "...your post was quite lucid compared to a few others I can remember..."? Let me know and I will try to clear them up -- I don't recall doing any chet-type drivel at all. Might not go down well with you and stay down, but whatever it was must have been fairly clear. Did I presume too much or something?

August 20, 2011 at 9:08 p.m.
rolando said...

GMills -- I know full well who our National Socialist President is...he is The Hussein. The other guy you named [I have difficulty typing it, much less saying it] is your president, not mine.

My president is not a tyrant who actively seeks out ways to defeat our rule of law, refuses to enforce federal law [a constitutional duty], refuses to protect our borders [please, we know about RINO Bush], orders his agencies to ignore federal immigrant laws, etc, etc. As I said, he is all yours...and the Progressives here deserve him.

August 20, 2011 at 9:20 p.m.
Selah said...

Timbo...it is over for the Republicans. Please spend your time coming up with ideas to help your party recover from their huge losses...beginning next year.

August 20, 2011 at 9:33 p.m.
hambone said...

BobMKE , How many state senate seats did the GOP gain in Wisconson?

How much has unemployment gone down under Scott Walker?

August 20, 2011 at 9:45 p.m.
BobMKE said...

ham,

The GOP lost two Senate seats during the 9 recalls, but still hold the Senate 17 to 16. (The nation wide unions spend 38 Million dollars for the two seats. Not much bang for the buck on that one) I don't know the figures on unemployment but I believe 12,500 jobs were created, second in the nation behind Texas. WI now has a balanced budget with an excess. It has paid back all of the programs that were raided by Gov. Diamond Jim Doyle. Numerous Cities and schools have balanced their budgets and some schools are hiring. ham if you could link on "Wisconsin Club for Growth" they would have better stats for you. Thanks for asking.

August 20, 2011 at 10 p.m.
rick1 said...

BobMKE, living in Wisconsin you have may have seen this but it is amazing how much money two school districts have saved by being able to bid out the health insurance programs. In the past they were only allowed to take the unions health paln.

http://maciverinstitute.com/2011/08/wisconsin-districts-save-millions-by-switching-health-insurers/

See what happens when you allow the free market to work.

August 20, 2011 at 10:24 p.m.
alprova said...

BobMKE wrote: " I don't know the figures on unemployment but I believe 12,500 jobs were created, second in the nation behind Texas."

The state had a net gain of more than 13,000 jobs in January and February of this year, however, Walker’s policies hardly had time to take effect in that time frame, as he assumed office in January.

WI now has a balanced budget with an excess. It has paid back all of the programs that were raided by Gov. Diamond Jim Doyle.

And how did he do it? One piece of the puzzle was put in place by taking $41 million from the Earned Income Tax Credit in his 2011-2013 budget. This move reduces the credit available for persons eligible for the EITC which means that their tax liability is increased or refund reduced.

He's done it by walking on the backs of the working poor in the state.

Numerous Cities and schools have balanced their budgets and some schools are hiring.

Even with a balanced budget, Wisconsin has a structural deficit. A structural deficit occurs when ongoing revenues are less than ongoing spending. The structural deficit represents the gap between the amount of revenue raised and the amount of money needed to continue existing programs.

There are several ways the state can find itself with a structural deficit, yet still have a balanced budget. One common way in Wisconsin is to use one-time revenues to support ongoing costs. The Governor and Legislature are well versed in this technique. For example, their budget proposals might transfer money from a segregated fund to the General Fund, or delay a payment from one year to the next year in order to keep the budget in balance. Structural deficits also grow when lawmakers adopt deferred or phased‑in tax cuts that haven’t been paid for.

The problem is that although some sources of revenue are one-time, spending almost never is. Even big purchases like land or buildings are spread out over many years through the use of bonding, and thus have ongoing costs. Supporting ongoing services with one-time revenue sources will work for a while, but it will lead to a structural deficit and long-term difficulties.

Scott Walker signed a bill in June that balanced only $3.6 billion of the reported $137 billion deficit.

August 20, 2011 at 10:28 p.m.
rick1 said...

Al: I googled your post at 10:28pm and it appears on several different websites, all you did was copy and paste. It's bunk, there are articles that say Walker wipes away the structural debt. You gave an opinion not facts.

August 20, 2011 at 10:55 p.m.
hambone said...

"wisconson Club for Growth"

Thats the Koch Brothers!!

No one even knows how much they dumped on the recall!!

August 20, 2011 at 10:57 p.m.
BobMKE said...

Al,hambone

The deficit was 3.6 Billion not $137. Wisconsin was ground zero. Where Wisconsin goes, so goes the rest of the nation. The Earned Income Tax Credit was reduced from $2,500 for not paying any income tax to $2,000 for not paying any income tax. Is this a great Country or what. The majority of Wisconsin citizens have demanded that the limited funds not be used to grow the entitlement state but rather to fuel and accelerate our economy. Job grow should follow when businesses now look to Wisconsin (Fly over Country to you libs) as a right to work State. We also have a gold mine called Lake Michigan. Come build your business near the eastern part of the State. There's water in that there big lake. We want our citizens to have gainful employment with the respect of earning an income rather than forcing more onto initial or deeper government dependence. All of the States want their unemployment levels to fall. It is not going to be easy, but Wisconsin is creating an envoirment to attract new businesses, and expanding existing ones. If the other States do not follow, they are doomed.

August 21, 2011 at 12:09 a.m.
alprova said...

BobMKE wrote: The deficit was 3.6 Billion not $137.

Precisely, but the $137 billion deficit figure is what Scott Walker touted when he began taking on the unions. It was HIS lie.

The Earned Income Tax Credit was reduced from $2,500 for not paying any income tax to $2,000 for not paying any income tax.

That's not correct. Taxpayers in the lower and middle income brackets qualify for the income credits as well. Calling those tax credits "entitlements" is disingenuous. People who have kids needed those credits to make ends meet. Your Governor is guilty of essentially taking food out of kids mouths to balance his budget.

It is not going to be easy, but Wisconsin is creating an envoirment to attract new businesses, and expanding existing ones. If the other States do not follow, they are doomed.

All Wisconsin has done is to tell the working poor that they are no longer welcome to live in Wisconsin. Nothing Scott Walker has done since he has taken office has accomplished creating so much as one job.

I reiterate the fact that he cannot lay claim to the 13,000 jobs that the state grew in January and February of this year. The credit for those jobs legitimately goes to the previous administration.

That doesn't stop you from giving him credit for them however. Scott Walker must have one of those magic wands in his pockets that he waved around on the first day he took office.

Isn't he still facing a recall election?

From the Wassau Daily Herald;

"In total, 244,978 votes were cast for Democrats in the recalls; only 238,527 were cast for Republicans. The four winning Republican senators all experienced drop-offs in support from the 2010 numbers, even in staunchly conservative areas."

"The governor scored a lot of victories this year, but they have come with real political costs," said Charles Franklin, a University of Wisconsin-Madison political science professor and polling expert. "He is a little less comfortable than he was before, and he needs to convince independent voters to come back to him."

Several political observers have noted that the narrow margins of victory in several Republican areas do not bode well for Walker, should he face a recall in January.

August 21, 2011 at 2:13 a.m.
alprova said...

Rick1 wrote: Al: I googled your post at 10:28pm and it appears on several different websites, all you did was copy and paste.

For the most part, you are correct. I failed to attribute those sentences correctly. My mistake.

It's bunk, there are articles that say Walker wipes away the structural debt. You gave an opinion not facts.

Not at all. The structural debt still exists. $63 billion estimated for this year. That is a fact.

http://www.lafollette.wisc.edu/publications/otherpublications/wisconsinprimer/2002/StructuralDeficit2002.pdf

August 21, 2011 at 2:27 a.m.
SeaSmokie59er said...

Martha's Vineyard is beautiful this time of the year.

August 21, 2011 at 6:27 a.m.
rick1 said...

Al here is an article that says he wiped the structural debt away.

http://www.rhinelanderdailynews.com/main.asp?SectionID=6&SubSectionID=47&ArticleID=48340

Al,there have been several times where you have attacked people who you have accused of doing what you did in failing to source or "attribute" you sentences correctly. As you have said in these forms you will call them out, I will call you out.

August 21, 2011 at 7:46 a.m.
alprova said...

Rick1 wrote: "Al,there have been several times where you have attacked people who you have accused of doing what you did in failing to source or "attribute" you sentences correctly. As you have said in these forms you will call them out, I will call you out."

The difference between you and I is that I immediately admitted that I did it. You never did.

But worry not. It won't happen again.

August 21, 2011 at 1:05 p.m.
rick1 said...

Al, how could you copy and paste and not relaize you did it? I bet this is not the first time you did it. You are a hypocrite and a fraud and have been exposed.

August 21, 2011 at 6:23 p.m.
alprova said...

Rick1 wrote: Al, how could you copy and paste and not relaize you did it? I bet this is not the first time you did it.

I never said I didn't realize that I did it. I said it was a mistake to not attribute it correctly to the source.

You are a hypocrite and a fraud and have been exposed.

Oh please...spare me your silly accusations. You copy and paste all the time and have never one time attributed what you copy and paste to the source from which you find things. I do it once and now suddenly I am a "hypocrite and a fraud?"

I was half asleep when I responded to BobMKE's post. Sue me.

August 21, 2011 at 10:57 p.m.
BobMKE said...

al,

Gov. Walker NEVER said 137 billion. I'm not sure but won't NY & CA be in that range? WI never was in that much trouble. It was always 3.6 billion.

August 22, 2011 at 8:11 a.m.
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