published Sunday, July 3rd, 2011

Former Hamilton County School Superintendent Jim Scales tells his side of the story

Former Hamilton County Schools Superintendent Jim Scales talks about his five-year tenure.
Former Hamilton County Schools Superintendent Jim Scales talks about his five-year tenure.
Photo by John Rawlston.
  • Dr. Scales speaks about his exit
    Watch as former Hamilton County Schools Superintendent Dr. Jim Scales speaks during an exclusive interview with the Times Free Press about the situation leading to his contract buyout.

After enduring five years of interference, thinly veiled animosity and outright opposition, former Hamilton County School Superintendent Jim Scales said he ultimately was ousted because he resisted pressures from county commissioners who wanted their friends in certain jobs.

“The school system existed for employment purposes and not for the purpose of education,” Scales said.

On a number of occasions, Scales said, commissioners or school board members indicated that they wanted certain principals in certain schools.

He said he remembers several times when his choice didn’t align with their opinions.

“That ruffled quite a few feathers,” Scales, 67, said from his East Brainerd house with a “for sale” sign in the yard.

The final straw came, he said, when he decided he would transfer longtime schools insider and then-Deputy Superintendent Rick Smith to a lower-profile job in order to save central office costs. The central office was a favorite target of some school board members and county commissioners who criticized it as bloated and too costly.

But Smith was the “favored son” whom some suburban school board members and county commissioners always had preferred for superintendent, Scales said. The backlash sparked outrage, especially from District 1 school board member Rhonda Thurman, who said Scales was fighting a battle he couldn’t win.

In an exclusive interview with the Chattanooga Times Free Press, his first full discussion with the media since his ouster, Scales also:

• Warned that the characterization of him as an “outsider” and the emphasis on being “local” as the chief qualification for superintendent could hurt the community’s efforts to grow the economy and improve education.

• Said Thurman, who often complained about poor communication from Scales, regularly refused to meet with him over his five-year tenure.

• Said his firing was personal. “There wasn’t anything in my performance,” he said. “They just wanted someone else, and they were willing to pay for it.”

Thurman didn’t dispute that she sharply disagreed with many of Scales’ hiring decisions, and said she continued to believe that his choices were keeping Hamilton County Schools from raising scores on standardized tests.

She also said urban schools were coddled under Scales, while suburban schools were shortchanged.

“There are some people we know a whole lot better than Jim Scales,” said Thurman. “Dr. Scales brought a lot of this on himself. I did not like the way he did some of our good educators.”

On May 26, the school board voted 6-3 to buy out Scales’ contract. The buyout will cost the county between $285,000 and $300,000.

His last day in the office was June 10. His last official day with the school system was Thursday.

Not long after Scales was voted out, Smith was voted in as the interim superintendent. He is expected to be appointed superintendent this week after school board members changed longstanding rules to fast-track him.

HOME GROWN

As much as he could, Scales said, he didn’t go along when elected officials lobbied for certain people to get or keep jobs. School board members and county commissioners were supposed to set policy. They weren’t qualified to make decisions about curriculum or teacher and principal hiring, he said.

“It was very annoying and disruptive because you couldn’t get things done,” he said.

If an out-of-state person had the best credentials for the job, he or she should get it, Scales said.

He brought James Colbert in from the Dallas school system as a director of secondary education, and Thurman passed out material about Colbert having had a bankruptcy in his past. Colbert left in January and is now a superintendent in West Orange-Cove, Texas.

But Thurman always had different ideas, Scales said. In many cases, she didn’t want the school to hire outside consultants for curriculum and instructional techniques. She wanted home-grown people in school system jobs. In fact, when Scales announced he would be eliminating Smith’s position, she accused Scales of having an agenda of moving outsiders into school jobs.

“They said I’m an outsider. I’m a foreigner. I’m not from here,” said Scales, who grew up in Texas and came to Chattanooga from the Dallas school system. That’s a dangerous attitude to have amid an influx of outside businesses and industry from foreign countries and other parts of the United States, he said.

With that kind of mindset, “What are you telling businesses?” he said. “We can’t move forward if we are taking huge steps backward.”

Severe cuts to the school system budget forced tough decisions about personnel, and Thurman said she had specific ideas about how those cuts should be executed.

A principal at Sequoyah High School was forced to retire under Scales, and an assistant principal at Tyner High School had his position cut. Thurman said both men are her friends.

“Scales can do anything with personnel he wants, but if we don’t like it, he can’t do it,” she said.

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On the eve of Scales’ buyout, the Greater Chattanooga Area Chamber of Commerce wrote a letter to the school board urging members to conduct a national search for a new superintendent to ensure a rich talent pool.

“Our members depend on Hamilton County schools to produce graduates that will help their companies compete in the global marketplace,” wrote Tom Edd Wilson, the Chamber president and CEO. “We view the selection of a superintendent as one of the most critical decisions impacting the future competitiveness of our business in the country.”

A few weeks later, board members Thurman, Everett Fairchild, David Testerman, Mike Evatt and Joe Galloway outvoted members George Ricks, Jeffrey Wilson and Linda Mosley and changed hiring policy. The board no longer has to hold public interviews, conduct an outside search or wait more than 15 days before naming a new superintendent. It failed to follow its own policy not to elevate an interim to the superintendent’s position or choose a candidate without a doctoral degree. Smith has a master’s degree.

Mosley said she thinks the new board majority is making a mistake.

“We need the search,” she said. “We don’t even have a criteria. We need someone that is innovative, that knows about best practices. If it’s local, that’s wonderful, but we don’t know that. I just want to do it the proper way.”

Since that vote, the Chamber has changed its tune. J.Ed. Marston, a spokesman for the Chamber, said officials have met with Smith and support whatever the school board decides.

“The people of Hamilton County elected the school board,” he said. “We defer to them.”

The Chamber is set to receive $525,000 this year from Hamilton County.

A TURNING POINT

Scales said he always had opponents, but they grew more powerful over the years.

Thurman was the only school board member who voted against his hiring in 2006, and she remained a vocal political enemy.

In August 2006, two of his supporters on the board weren’t re-elected and another supporter, Debra Matthews, died, he said.

In the last election, supporters Janice Boydston and Kenny Smith didn’t run for re-election, and Evatt, Testerman and Galloway, all longtime county school system employees, gained seats on the board.

It didn’t take long for Scales to learn what that was going to mean.

“As elections happened over the years, things changed,” he said. “Superintendents make decisions and you accumulate strikes against you.”

One of the strikes, he said, was that he wasn’t easily manipulated by Thurman or Fred Skillern, the county commissioner from District 1.

At the beginning of Scales’ tenure, he angered some people by changing the process for hiring principals. In the past, associate superintendents appointed principals. The new process allowed a committee of teachers, administrators and community members appointed by the school board to make recommendations for him to select from.

Not long after the 2010 school board election, Scales said, Testerman began holding informal meetings with other school board members about transferring Scales to another job within the system. Testerman had run for election on an anti-Scales campaign.

Scales got wind of the plan. Even though it went nowhere because Scales’ contract stipulated that he couldn’t hold another office in the system, he said, he recognized that his political relationship with the board was unraveling.

To protect himself, he hired an attorney to examine his options. A few months later the school board’s attorney, Scott Bennett, called Scales’ attorney and offered a buyout. Bennett said a majority on the board wanted to get rid of him, Scales said.

Bennett wouldn’t be specific with Scales’ attorney about why the board wanted to be rid of him, Scales said. All his evaluations had been satisfactory.

Thurman often complained about wasteful spending, and the central office was her “whipping boy,” he said.

But the central office was doing work that was important to the schools, he said.

“Purchasing. Budgeting. Transportation. Reports to the state and federal government. Complaints. Civil rights and special education regulations. That has to be done,” Scales said. “We weren’t just sitting around drinking coffee.”

Before he accepted the buyout, Scales had planned on proposing an $800,000 cut to the central office that eliminated Smith’s and Deputy Superintendent Ray Swafford’s positions.

“It wasn’t personal,” he said.

But he never got the chance to carry out that plan.

Thurman also blamed him unfairly for poor communication, Scales said. When he took the job, he began a policy of meeting individually with school board members. But not long after he was hired, Thurman stopped scheduling the meetings with him, he said.

He met monthly with board members, but Thurman never wanted to talk about the upcoming board agenda. She only came in when Skillern came to talk with Scales during budget time, he said.

Mosley and former school board Chairman Kenny Smith said they met with Scales every month before meetings. Both said they knew Thurman wouldn’t schedule meetings with Scales but never understood why.

Thurman said she didn’t meet with Scales because she didn’t have the time and thought the meetings were a way to encourage secrecy.

“When I take off work, I lose money,” said Thurman, who is a hair stylist. “What those meetings were set up for was to keep him from answering questions in public.”

Scales said he and his wife, Cynthia, were surprised by the decision to buy him out a year early, especially because the schools faced a budget shortfall of more than $14 million.

He declined to talk about whether the decision to fire him was influenced by race. He did say he hopes the school board and its new superintendent continue to care for and spend money on the needs of inner-city schools.

Howard School of Academics and Technology, for example, placed in the state’s Achievement School District, has a long way to go but has improved graduation rates markedly because the right people were put into jobs and supported from the central office, Scales said.

Overall, many schools are being left in better shape than he found them in, he said. The number of suspensions and expulsions fell. Graduation rates increased nearly 10 percentage points, from 70.3 percent in 2005 to 80.2 percent in 2010.

The next state school report card, to be published in July, likely will underscore his successes, he said.

“We were not frivolous with tax dollars” as Thurman suggested, Scales said.

But Thurman said Scales was far from a success. Schools were continuing to fail, ACT scores declining and principals told her on many occasions that they were “flying by the seat of their pants,” she said.

On the 2010 state report card, Hamilton County received C’s in academic achievement and three D’s and one B in student academic progress.

“If you are giving students a diploma that’s not worth the paper it’s printed on, I think that’s educational fraud,” Thurman said. “Hamilton County students aren’t measuring up.”

And when it comes to the future of schools in the county, she said more emphasis needs to be put on suburban rather than inner-city schools.

Corporate, nonprofit, state and federal dollars are being pumped into urban schools with a high percentage of poor, black students, with no positive outcome, Thurman said.

“What do they want? I don’t think suburban students have been treated fairly,” she said. “Poor people learn. Slaves learned to read. I don’t know why poor people can’t learn to read and write. I have a lot of poor people in my family, but they are still expected to learn.”

Scales said he did the best he could to improve education, even in the face of $30 million in budget cuts ordered by county commissioners over his five years. As a result, the system lost many experienced teachers and needed staff, he said.

“More than anything, the issue with funding hampered us. We were always in a mode of having to stretch the dollars as far as they could go. We were always told don’t expect any additional funding except for growth.”

Still, Scales said he’s not bitter. A superintendent is in the hot seat, and things like this happen, he said.

But his wife feels differently.

“I’m a little bitter,” said Cynthia Scales.

It’s been painful to see her husband under fire, and it will be tough to leave friends in Chattanooga. The couple plans to move back to Dallas, near their son, after their home sells.

“Why couldn’t they have waited another year?” she said. “This just wasn’t right.”

about Joan Garrett McClane...

Joan Garrett McClane has been a staff writer for the Times Free Press since August 2007. Before becoming a general assignment writer for the paper, she wrote about business, higher education and the court systems. She grew up the oldest of five sisters near Birmingham, Ala., and graduated with a master's and bachelor's degrees in journalism from the University of Alabama. Before landing her first full-time job as a reporter at the Times Free Press, ...

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Selah said...

Now the good ole boys have touched the Chatt Chamber of Commerce...to try to quiet their storm...Now businesses may speak by withholding funds...please do...this kind of control tactics need to end!!!

July 3, 2011 at 12:31 a.m.
Selah said...

MY CHILDREN ARE NOT IN INNER CITY SCHOOLS BUT i RESENT RHONDA Thurman's comment about favoring surburban schools over them...b/c they are the future...How dare you Rhonda---evidently supporting kids is not your goal...promoting negative, racist perceptions is...VOTE them OUT...

July 3, 2011 at 12:48 a.m.
rolando said...

Scales failed to do his job.

He failed. His watch. His fault.

Nothing else matters.

He only cares because he cannot list Chattanooga on his resume.

He should take his blood-money from our school system and run with it just as he has always done.

July 3, 2011 at 4:46 a.m.
Blassmike said...

Exception is taken on Thurman's approach to value one student in our system over another. This separatist approach is the foundation that has placed this school system in the sub level position it now rests. If her job does not allow her to attend to responsibilities of her office, she and the voters of her district, which includes me, should take that under consideration in the next election. We would not want her to schedule a head earlier or later in order to clear room for a meetings her office requires she take part of, now would we? Dr. (not Mr.) Scales, we thank you for your passion that brought about a marked increase in performance throughout the district during your short tenure. We dread the coming time when our education professionals are displaced from areas of total worth to that which will support private agendas. We dread the imminent drop in our student's performance, rise of dropout rates, and increase in juvenile incarcerations. Dr. Scales, as has Jesse Register, will strive in a school system that supports him.

July 3, 2011 at 6:57 a.m.
rosebud said...

The writer of this article has a great career in fiction writing ahead of her. Mrs. Thurman is right in suggesting a new emphasis be placed on suburban schools. Since the merger of city-county, the inner-city schools have received new buildings, new technology, and an abundance of good teachers and administrators. What else can the county do for them? Fix their families and lifestyle, and perhaps the children can learn.

Don't you love how the left-page Chattanooga Times is giving Scales a soapbox to whine, as he's cashing his $280K farewell present?

Kenny Smith was NOT a Scales supporter. He voted AGAINST the ridiculous contract extension in 2008.

The writer stumbled on one fact (by accident I'm sure) and then failed to recognize it's importance. It's true: Mr. Testerman, and several other candidates won election to the school board last year, by stating loud and clear that they would get rid of Scales. They were voted in by the public. The public won, Scales lost, and schools will benefit.

And finally, how much clearer can the Times' agenda be? They chose the most sinister-looking photo of Rhonda Thurman they could, because they're casting her as the villain. Sorry, Chattanooga Times. She will be re-elected as long as she wants, because she's acting on the will of her constituents. Good for her!

July 3, 2011 at 7:32 a.m.
patriot1 said...

This is the epitome of the type of gold plated, BMW driving educrat that cities such as Chattanooga can no longer afford. They need a real job.

July 3, 2011 at 7:57 a.m.
328Kwebsite said...

This sounds exactly like the behavior of our local political cronies who have been paying each other off with taxpayer dollars ever since they appointed themselves without election.

July 3, 2011 at 8:57 a.m.
librul said...

Right on, BlassMike!

July 3, 2011 at 9:22 a.m.
nucanuck said...

After Dr Register and now Dr Scales, academic talent will be forewarned that Hamilton County is good ole boy territory-enter at your own risk.

The County deserves Rick Smith, the students do not.

July 3, 2011 at 9:24 a.m.
328Kwebsite said...

The emphasis on suburban schools seems appropriate to some because that's where the white people are. The students are a larger group, they are in every school, and they deserve our attention.

July 3, 2011 at 9:28 a.m.
joe said...

“What do they want? I don’t think suburban students have been treated fairly,” she said. “Poor people learn. Slaves learned to read. I don’t know why poor people can’t learn to read and write. I have a lot of poor people in my family, but they are still expected to learn.” (-District 1 school board member Rhonda Thurman)

Who's the "they" in this comment by Thurman? Is she referring to those uppity Black people who live in Chattanooga? Who have dealt with substandard funding and substandard facilities for generations? And who, except for someone who is politically tone deaf, cites "slaves" in an argument in this day and age?

Comments like this by elected officials in public service should send shivers down the spine of Volkswagen and all those international businesses that have recently moved here. Because it says volumes about the mindset of the elected leaders who run our institutions.

All you need do is replace the adjectives "suburban" with "White" and "poor" with "Black" and you better understand the perspective of the current school board majority. This is a battle of perceived grievance, a sense of entitlement and race. Its coarse argument and ultimately, a self destructive one.

In a growing international economy and internationalized work force this provincialism in the school system, that punishes "outsiders" as Thurman has described Scales and rewards lesser qualified "locals" should be quite the eye-opener, especially as Chattanooga tries to remake its local economy into a more outward, international and viable economic engine. It means there are powerful forces who will fight you tooth and nail to keep the "outsiders", and more importantly, the best qualified candidates, out. Clearly the 800lb. gorilla in the room is still race, regionalism, partisan politics and the "good 'ol boy network." I wonder how that's going to affect the bottom line?

July 3, 2011 at 10:01 a.m.
crow1033 said...

I keep thinking that Rhonda Thurman can't shock me anymore with her stupid comments, but, alas, her ignorance continues to surprise. I have seen her at meetings handing out 'literature' to undermine schools, employees, parents and volunteers (which is against Board policy) and I always wonder, "What if she put her effort toward good and helped her own District schools with the $$ she spends on trying to tear other people down?" When will Hamilton County wake up and boot her and Fred Skillern to the curb?

July 3, 2011 at 10:26 a.m.
rosebud said...

Thank goodness our elected officials did what the voters asked them to do. They said, "Get rid of Scales!" The school board did its duty. More power to them.

If Scales cared so much about "the children" he would leave some of his $280,000 payoff behind to help them. Fat chance.

Also, I watched the video excerpts from the interview. The TFP writer did a nice job cleaning up Scales stammering, stuttering, uh, uh, "ex-cetera" comments. She almost made him sound competent.

July 3, 2011 at 10:27 a.m.
bret said...

“Poor people learn. Slaves learned to read. I don’t know why poor people can’t learn to read and write."

Slaves weren't allowed to read and they sure weren't taught to read. The few slaves who did learn did it on their own. I guess that is what Rhonda would like to see.

Who equates inner city schools with slaves? And they wonder why some people think the decision to oust Scales might have been racially motivated.

Go back to Soddy Daisy with your racist attitudes, Rhonda.

July 3, 2011 at 10:28 a.m.
JDW said...

Joe, you are absolutely correct. Rhonda Thurman's comments are a critical indicator to the nature of the current school board. This should not be tolerated by the community that voted (for or against) this individual. There must be a shake-up of the entire Hamilton County School System - and it needs to start with the School Board. Being an "outsider" as well, but one with a vested stake in the community and its education system, I am appalled by what I read here and experience constantly in regards to education. The eye is not on the ball - not in the community, not by the parents in the community, and most noticeably not in the School System. If we think that we will be able to compete in the global economy and create the advanced manufacturing, green and service jobs that are so critical to the future, we are mistaking ourselves greatly.

July 3, 2011 at 10:35 a.m.
rosebud said...

What did Rhonda say that isn't true?

July 3, 2011 at 10:39 a.m.
eastridge8 said...

Well, lots and lots of people on here are making lots and lots of sense...and I agree with them.

However, I am concerned about how we...Chattanooga and Hamilton County..."look" to potential national and international companies who are planning/looking to move here thereby creating new jobs. Didn't Littlefield "assure" VW that our schools would be able to provide the education to accomplish all of this? Wasn't the school board "in on this"? Didn't they realize that our schools HAD to create a new "mind set" for educating/training so OUR CHATTANOOGA/HAMILTON COUNTY GRADUATES COULD GET AND HOLD THESE NEW JOBS? As it is only college grads, foreigners and former Detroit auto workers have these jobs. Do we need to create another Kirkman High school? It sure looks like it.

All of this bickering looks childish and makes Chattanooga look like a backwards city where NOTHING CONSTRUCTIVE gets done!

GROW UP! Create better schools where ALL can read and write AND get training. HERE IN HAMILTON COUNTY AND NOT IN A NEIGHBORING STATE.

July 3, 2011 at 12:19 p.m.
xyzyra said...

"rosebud said... What did Rhonda say that isn't true"


How about EVERYTHING! Rhonda is just the loud mouthpiece. It's her cheerleading squad behind her pulling her strings that's really in control. Dr. Scales efforts were sabotage for the simple reason of friends wanting their fellow friends to have the position. If it meant sabotaging the educational process for Chattanooga's children, then so be it. Question should be: When will Chattanoogans put a stop to being taken hostage by a handful of pack running idiots?

Chattanooga has long held the reputation of harboring a regressive, backwoods mentality. That's why so many of the smarter young people leave the area at first opportunity, and rarely if ever look back or even let it be known they are from the area. There's nothing in Chattanooga for them. Everything already been spoken for by the clicks and their offspring.

July 3, 2011 at 12:43 p.m.

If I were new to Hamilton County and read this article, it would be my opinion that the school board is nothing short of totally mis-directed. Racist attitudes, no comprehension of what the real problems are, obviously not well educated, resistance to good change for no apparent reason, casting blame on one person for decades of difficulties and the list goes on and on. How can we as voters justify this group of loosers serving our precious children? The scenic city has grown by leaps and bounds however once folks realize (the present mayor) as well as school board bring absolutely nothing to the table, we will not see new folks coming to live in our area. If any of you think others are not reading these forums, you are sadly mistaken. An unbelievable shame!

July 3, 2011 at 12:59 p.m.
moon4kat said...

Dr. Scales, I am disappointed in the current provincial, racist majority on the Hamilton County Board of Commissioners. This region, and its children, deserve better than the so-called leaders who forced you out.

July 3, 2011 at 1:27 p.m.
Astropig said...

If we went back to elected supers,this article wouldn't have to be written. ( And we wouldn't have to listen to this mediocrity whine about his summary dismissal). The fact is, these educrats have now learned that the brass ring is getting into the office by whatever means and then getting a giant buyout when their politics don't work anymore. The money paid out to this wanker could have been used to improve a school or a classrom,but he will use it for a jet ski or a new Lexus.The money was taken from us taxpayers under the color of law and he gets to feather his nest with it and give nothing in return. As much as you corrupt education establishment types want to blame Rhonda Thurman,that is a fact.If he (and you) were not such educational hypocrites,that money could be spent where it could do some good.

Elect them. Let the people speak. If one of these "just passin thru" hired guns starts wrecking the school system, we can fire them with no buyout due.The superintendent would then have to make decisions that benefitted everyone,not just his 4 or 5 supporters on the board .As it stands now, if a numerical majority plus the super decides to hijack education in Hamilton County, there is really nothing we can do to stop them.Indeed, some of us would argue that this insiders crowd has done just that. Rhonda Thurman would seem to be a bulwark against this type of hijacking. Thats probably why the education establishment despises her. She sees through their corruption and lazy,apathetic attitude. She's doing the job that we voters should be doing- Holding them accountable.

In theory, the education politburo would support the kind of democracy that would elect a superintendent. The best man (or woman) woiuld win and the public would support its own choice. However, you can't maintain the education plantation by risking a fair election because the person that they wanted might not win.The old USSR functioned much the same way.

Goodbye Dr. Scales. Thanks for playing. But never forget- You lost. It feels good to type that.

July 3, 2011 at 1:34 p.m.
Selah said...

Rhonda is being used but she has fallen for it...so be it!!! Leslie your right on it...it is pitiful that a small group want to continue to control the wealth AT ANY MEANS NECESSARY...even if you dont deserve it...THIS TIME..it is to their detriment...VOTERS DID NOT SEE THIS COMING...IN THIS MANNER...Racism is the last card I wanted to say BUT it is clear in today's article with Thurman's comments...SHE IS THE ONLY ONE BRAVE ENOUGH TO SPEAK IT...I CAN RESPECT THAT!!! IT IS THE OTHERS HIDING IN HER FRAY THAT SCARRRE THE HELL OUT OF ME...TESTERMAN, GALLOWAY, EVATT, FAIRCHILD, SKILLERN, SMITH........BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER...NEVER FORGET THAT

July 3, 2011 at 1:56 p.m.
Selah said...

THE JOB ISSUE IS INTERETING...Thurman states surburban schools have suffered vs inner city...Lets check this out...how many surburban schools have suffered with principal and staff changes on almost a yearly basis? If these principals and staffs are SOOOO GREAT put them in the failing schools...EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM...let's see what they are made of ...

A friend of mine says that inner city schools are staffed with incompetent leadership all the time and staffed with leaders who do time to get promoted to succeeding schools yet do not even make a difference in the inner city but just know someone who asks them to do their time and wait for a surburban principalship or Central office job...WHAT!!!...then the inner city schools experience unwarranted and warranted leadership changes regularly WHILE schools like Nolan, lookout vally, soddy daisy, CSAS, CSLA etc handpick leadership whose tenure outlasts MOST inner=city school leadership. The money is often miss used by leadership who do not know what to do in these schools and use it to hire buddies, family, and extra help for themselves. Leaders who try and do make a difference end up being moved or not supported by Central office. ALL OF CENTRAL OFFICE NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH...POOR MGMT. FROM CO AND SCHOOL BOARD...

July 3, 2011 at 2:05 p.m.
Selah said...

Black community??? What is your black leadership really doing for you? NAACP, Warren M, Greg Beck, Bernie Miller etc...none of them have even spoke out about the racist remarks Fred Skillern made featured publicly in times free press...the comments today by Thurman...WHO is really speaking out for the black community? seems like no one ...until their own hidden agendas are touched but seems they do not act on behalf of the ENTIRE Black Community

July 3, 2011 at 2:09 p.m.
Selah said...

Black community??? Are they brought and paid for to? the black elected officials? Take a look at your own and PRAY GOD will send you true, responible, servant leadership...PRAY HARD...b/c money, status, favors are hard for any money and status hungry individual.

Scales go on to Dallas...what you are doing now you should have done at the beginning...cleaned central office out then spoke out about the evil going on preventing you from helping kids BUT now you want to spill the beans b/c your AGENDA didn't come out as planned...You had nothing to lose now or then...SO WHY DID YOU WAIT---WHEN IT IS REALLY TOO LATE!!!

July 3, 2011 at 2:13 p.m.
timbo said...

I would rather have the good ol boys in charge than the rich old boys like Times Free Press , Public Education Foundation and the Lookout Mountain Mafia. Scales was an their incompetent puppet. Good riddance. You lost the election and one of defining issues was Scales. Why black people think that these elitists give a damn about you is beyond me . They think of you all as pets. they use you to get elected by throwing you a couple a couple of bones ever once in a while. Get used to it and quit whining . The timesfreepress has no shame. Good job Rhonda.

July 3, 2011 at 2:26 p.m.
dendod said...

I protested in front of the Hamilton County Board of Education 2 years ago, and in front of Juvenile Court 2 years ago. Both times it was because Dr. "Can't teach a dog to fetch a stick" Scales and his sidekick, Tommy "Smoke and mirrors" Krantz were abusing mentally ill children in their schools. Scales and Krantz both allowed the Hamilton County Board of Education to basically "wipe their rearends with the American's with Disabilities Act". They held secret meetings and had children removed from homes and placed in foster care rather than give them what the Act said they were due. GOOD RIDDANCE.....Scales is a pathetic WHINER.....Maybe he can go find "Smoke and mirrors" Krantz and drink their sorrows away.

Happy Independence Day....We're free from those 2 failures......

Zackery Deal vs. the Hamilton County Board of Education cost this county over a million dollars because they wouldn't give that autistic child what he was due. We could really use that $1,000,000 now.

July 3, 2011 at 2:43 p.m.
Selah said...

Timbo...check the tax records of those good ole boys...some own businesses and make more than your average teacher at 46000. Of course if your floating in the six figures you would go along with them.

You can call it whining if you want TIMBO...but its called our FIRST AMENDMENT rights...you all have hood winked us once but our VOTES will SPEAK LOUDer in the NEAR future...GET READY TIMBO...don't forget we still have the right to vote for and against YOU ALL NOW

July 3, 2011 at 2:46 p.m.
mymy said...

Another bad front page article by the TFP. Although I think some bad wording was used by Thurman, I agree with her re many issues. The educational system in this country is broken with the help of the Federal Government interference,, the Teacher's Union and liberal thinking. No amount of money will fix the issue. I am sick of hearing we need more money for the children line. I blame a lot of ills on NO PARENTING IN OUR BROKEN SOCIETY. What goes on in the schools is a reflection of what is going on in society and it is not pretty. The ones crying out the loudest need to fix what is going on at home instead of blaming everybody else. It makes me sick and again no amount of money will fix it.

July 3, 2011 at 2:46 p.m.
Selah said...

Why are so many scared of the TRUTH? dendod...if you think lawsuits and violation of students rights will stop b/c Scales is gone...YOU ARE TERRIBLY WRONG...You just wait and see the Mess that will begin to take place...Lawsuits are just beginning. The new appointees have no regard for policies, procedures or laws...they just are SMART enough to put themselves in a position to CHANGE them to fit their HIDDEN AGENDAS...TIME is on the Voters side tho...things change in an instant

July 3, 2011 at 2:52 p.m.
Oz said...

"On the 2010 state report card, Hamilton County received C’s in academic achievement and three D’s and one B in student academic progress."

Why would we want Scales for another year? It looks like he sealed his on fate.

July 3, 2011 at 3:27 p.m.
teach_them_all said...

dendod - Deal v. HCDE occurred due to events that happened before Scales' time - just an FYI.

July 3, 2011 at 3:48 p.m.
Chattanegro said...

Rhonda, slaves...really? I believe those hair products are getting to your head. How can you expect to raise student learning by lowering the standards for school leaders. Rewriting the policy has got to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. I am still waiting to hear what Dr. Scales did wrong...I've heard enough of the lies. I hope the businesses are paying close attention to the hicks of Hamiltion County. Dr. Scales deserves to be paid to sit at home and watch this soap opera. He was too intelligent for these back wood racists. I would like for Fred and Rhonda to take an I.Q. test, bet it would really prove they both are nothing but hillbillies.

July 3, 2011 at 6:03 p.m.
champ1 said...

I haven't been back in town long enough to have a real opinion on this matter, so I've basically just watched and listened to the debate. Having heard both sides however, I must say that its a little scary that a person like Rhonda has that type of power over our schools. I went to vocational school with Soddy Daisy kids, and they were, hands down, the worst racist I've ever dealt with in my life. I grew up in the inner city and I went to school in the suburbs of Chattanooga. In my opinion, the inner city schools are much better than they were when I was a kid. My daughter attended a local magnet school and I was always impressed with both their personnel and professionalism. At the same time, I do believe that my old high school has taken a real nose dive since the early ninety's, so I can see her point on this matter. On the other hand, why did they rush the Smith decision if he was the best man for the job? Wouldn't that prove to be just as true after a nationwide search? And, if Scales ouster wasn't personal, why not save the money and allow his contract to expire? Was his removal really worth more to us than a quarter of a million dollars? Anyone that's ever been "railroaded" in life knows that this sounds like a "railroading." What we need is real, radical change in our school system that, quite frankly, requires much longer hours and much higher standards. We need that just to KEEP PACE with the Chinese. I seriously doubt that a local guy thats been around forever will make that kind of change. So we will be right back here having this discussion again, when the democrats get back into power in a couple years and remove Rick Smith's figurative head the first chance they get. Hopefully, my daughter will be out of school by then.

July 3, 2011 at 6:36 p.m.
TN_Mtn_Man said...

I am SICKENED by the lack of common sense by our elected officials - city, county, and board of education.

Why in the world we have global corporations locating here is beyond me - though something tells me if we keep up the current level of good ol' boy back room deals we'll scare any further investment straight out of town.

I don't think Scales was the 'best' - but how can he do his job when he's fighting an up hill battle against the 'system.'

And Rhonda - please proceed to crawl back under the rock you seem to have crawled out from under.

No wonder we have soooooo many private schools around here - its not the teachers fault, its our crappy administration. Our school board is a JOKE and a costly one at that - jokes on us folks.

July 3, 2011 at 6:43 p.m.
timbo said...

TN mtn man why do multinational corporations come here? Because we bribe them with record. 577 million dollar incentives packages . more tax dollars wasted .

July 3, 2011 at 9:13 p.m.
timbo said...

Selah. to compare what a small business man has compared to Holmberg, Germ, Lebowitz, Lupton, etc.... is ridiculous. Why do you want to be ruled by royalty. The only ones being fooled here is you and the people who agree with you. As far as the truth goes, the TCP wouldn't know that if it bit them ,

July 3, 2011 at 9:38 p.m.
Selah said...

Stay in your dreamland Timbo...your lovely dreamland--- Republican Island

July 3, 2011 at 10:58 p.m.
clandahlina said...

This is 2011--why are we still having the race debate? I am sickened by Thurman's racist commentary. The ironic part is that if anyone who worked in the education system made a statement relating students to slaves, then they would be and have been fired. It is disgusting that we let an ignorant, racist hairdresser dictate the direction of our education system. Shouldn't be perhaps be listening to someone more qualified? Someone with a college degree instead of someone who gives perms for a living? I guarantee you that we would have better results. Sadly, I think her re-election is a reflection of the hidden racist and backwater attitudes of the Chattanooga general population. Shame on us for continuing to put her in office.

July 3, 2011 at 11:18 p.m.
rosebud said...

Whatever. Rhonda does her homework, and knows the school system better than Scales ever did. She calls it like she sees it, and this "hairdresser" has run her own successful business for many years (with a public school education)! She has complained about Scales' stumbling ineptitude for five years. Now she finally has a majority on the school board, which is the will of the voters.

Everyone who's complaining now was evidently sleeping through the 2010 election, when four successful school board candidates made it very clear that they did not support Jim Scales. The voters wanted change, and thank goodness they got it.

Rick Smith, with 28 years experience, is more than qualified to lead the school system out of its long-term funk. The best thing all the whiners could do now is to shut up about losing their power base, support Smith, and work to improve all the schools.

July 3, 2011 at 11:29 p.m.
CBIKAS said...

Dear Dendod,

Would you e-mail me to explain further about your comments regarding Dr. Scales and Tommy Kranz. I am familiar with the Zachary Deal case and have an autistic child. And I have some information you might be interested in reviewing. My name is Charles Bikas. And my e-mail address is cbikas@yahoo.com.

Thank you. Charles Bikas

July 4, 2011 at 12:55 a.m.
heresjohnny said...

It's really sad that this has turned into such a political circus. I am wondering where the needs of the students fit into all this finger-pointing, "he said, she said" freak show.

Dr. Scales had a tough job. A budget crisis and federal lawmakers breaking down his neck can't be easy. He was bound to piss someone off...and while Hamilton County students "aren't measuring up" the system will not see true achievement without first seeing progress.

While I agree that Rick Smith's experience and hometown ties may qualify him to lead the school system, I don't agree with the school board's decision to change the hiring policy just fit their agendas. Only time will tell if he is truly the man for the job.

Some people commend Rhonda Thurman for "telling it like it is"...maybe so, but she needs a lesson in class and respect. I also love how her own paycheck is so important that she couldn't afford to miss work to meet with Dr. Scales, yet she was a huge proponent in denying teachers a salary raise and the bonus deal last year by stating that teachers should just be happy to have a job because a lot of people don't. Hypocrite, much?

I agree that the low performing schools, both urban and suburban, need special attention. Most of them have been given that, and yes, while many are improving, a new school building, additional funds, and a brand spanking new hometown boy superintendent will not change the mindset of the school's population. If parents do not teach their children to value education then the schools will never live up to the standards that is expected from them.

Dendod-I guarentee you know nothing about teaching children with autism. If you did, then you would know that 8 hours a day of one on one ABA training has not been proven to be effective. That is what the Deal vs. HCDE was about. Research has shown that a multi-faceted program, including ABA, errorless teaching, natural environment teaching, reciprocal teaching, social skills training, and many other methods is actually more effective than one specific programming. What that child was due was an educational program with a mountain of research based practices delivered by a team of trained professinals, not what the parents believed would cure their child's autism.

With this whole bruhaha going on, I can't wait to see how employee moral is come August 10th.

July 4, 2011 at 1:03 a.m.
Selah said...

heresjohnny...teachers report August 1, 2011 and already my teacher friends are disgusted...disgusted before Scales came and disgusted now...disgusted ever since the Merger took place...

July 4, 2011 at 2:27 a.m.
rosebud said...

Scales can whine about Rhonda Thurman all he wants, but look at the facts:

Rhonda Thurman merely has one vote on a 9-member school board. For years, she was on the (losing) 8-1 end as she voted against money-wasting programs like Everyday Math, which has now been rejected as a failure (after 12 years).

All you who are complaining about a "hairdresser" having "so much power," look at the facts. There are only 4 board members who could be considered "educators." 2 former principals, 1 former teacher, and 1 former maintenance director whose wife is a teacher. All of them voted against Scales! All of them told voters last year that they were against Scales. All of them won!

The 4 board members who supported Scales have no educational experience. Just ties to the black community or the influential foundations/power structure. This is the group that has run the school district into the ground during the past 15 years. It's someone else's turn!

Compare the facilities of Orchard Knob, Hardy, East Side, East Lake, Dalewood and Howard (all new or newly renovated) with Harrison, Ooltewah, Falling Water, Alpine Crest, Lookout Valley and Birchwood. Then compare the scores on the State Report Card. See which group is failing, and which ones make A's.

Are you going to blame that on Rhonda Thurman? She was on the board when these new inner city schools were built, so I guess that's her fault too. Put the blame where it belongs. The schools can only do so much. Let's give new leadership a chance to turn a sinking ship around. The numbers don't lie. Jim Scales failed.

July 4, 2011 at 8:31 a.m.
MountainJoe said...

A bunch of people are playing the race card, but I fail to see where anything Rhonda Thurman said (or supposedly said ... but surely the TFP has never gotten a quote wrong, has it?) was racist. Yes, she mentioned "slaves" (it is a historical fact that slavery once existed in the U.S.) but only in the context that if people in such a desperate situation ... with no encouragement, no resources, and no freedom ... could somehow learn to read despite it all, then perhaps it is not too much to ask that students who have everything they need, provided for them at taxpayer expense, could manage to do the same?

July 4, 2011 at 9:33 a.m.
timbo said...

Selah, first of all I am not a republican . Second, almost all of your arguments are emotional or based on race . This was not racial. If it was scales would have never been the superintendent to start with sent the system is 70 percent white . Scales and Regiserter both did the bidding of the PEF instead of the majority of the voters. These arogant people who keep denigrating Rhonda and Fred because of a lack of education are making our point. I have an advanced education but it does not make me superior to anyone . The ironic part is that you argue that black people are being disrespected you get upset then you turn right around and disrespect so called rednecks and hillbillies the same way . what hypocrites .

July 4, 2011 at 9:38 a.m.
MountainJoe said...

And rosebud has it right ... trying to blame Scales' departure on Rhonda is ridiculous. She was a one-person minority on a nine-person board for years - a lone voice crying in the wilderness, fighting the central office and the power brokers all on her own. She lost more 1-8 and 2-7 votes than probably even she can count. Scales did himself in with his own poor performance. What finally got him was the election of new school board members, not beholden to the PEF or the teachers' union, who made it clear during their campaigns that they did not support Scales. They all won. Elections have consequences.

July 4, 2011 at 9:38 a.m.
MountainJoe said...

If Scales really wanted to help the students, he would donate his "golden parachute" back to whichever school he thinks needs the most help. I'm sure they would be glad to get it. On second thought, if he spends it on English speaking lessons, that would be a good educational investment, too.

July 4, 2011 at 9:39 a.m.
joe said...

So I guess "MountainJoe" and "Rosebud" must be fans of Rhonda Thurman with all the personal, ad hominem attacks they have launched at Superintendent Scales. Be that as it may, their motivations are their own business. However, Scales would do the citizens of Hamilton County a large favor by not returning any of the "golden parachute" he is supposed to receive. The "favor" is highlighting the reckless action of the school board in purely monetary terms. Forcing someone out, only to be obligated to pay them, and then his successor is fiscal insanity, especially in times of budget deficits. These decisions and the motivations for them, should be laid bare for all Hamilton County residents to see and more importantly, vote on. Throw these bums out, I say.

July 4, 2011 at 10:48 a.m.
chet123 said...

Mountain...are you a fool...how about you donated your hard worked income....Scale did not apply for this job to give away his earning..What kind of damn foll suggestion is that GOMER...He was under-paid to start with...Its really an insult...get off your ignorant butt and check what CEO are making at Blue Cross ,Umnum,Banks,and other large business with thousands of employees...in the millions...so dont talk like a fool...i would say it will be hard to get anyone from outside now after the way BIG BUTT RHONDA THURMAN(SODDY QUEEN)have conspired over the years against good people..this matter will go to court and take the bigort Hamilton County Politic Out of it...Look for hell to break out this fall in Hamiton County....Because it was done under-handed...i predicted in my posting month ago that Rhonda Thurman and Fred Skillern was conspiring together...They will be in for a BIG SUPPRISE....Jesse Register, and Harry Reynold...will drop the BOMB On Miss Thurman...along with hundreds of hours of statement she has made on radio TALK SHOW(How stupid can you get..stick to hair-dressing)

July 4, 2011 at 10:56 a.m.
eastridge8 said...

I agree that Scales could use some English lessons. I also agree that Rhonda is ONLY ONE VOICE/VOTE on the school board. She CANNOT MAKE ANYONE DO SOMETHING THEY DON'T WANT TO DO OR DISAGREE WITH. They vote their own way. I suppout Rhonda b/c I think she is using GOOD COMMON SENSE in her role on the school board.

The REAL PROBLEM is on the home front. Sorry parents! This goes for BOTH...WHITE and black! Many parents are trying as best as they can but children are left alone while parents work and are not being made to mind or show respect for teachers or principals. They show no respect for police either. Witness the brazen gang activity.

And this trend didn't start with the current generation. This started way back with the grandparents generation in the 60's. When the LIBERALS tied the parents/teachers/principals hands by not allowing spankings or punishment of some kind for bad behavior. Today's parents think teachers are supposed to teach good behavior and manners to their kids while THEY do nothing!! Plus the liberals took Prayer out of schools. Probably the only time some kids heard about God.

NOW we have lazy sorry attitudes at home and in the classrooms because of threats of calling the cops. The Bible says..."Spare the rod and spoil the child"...and now we see how true that is as we are left with an attitude of entitlement!

It's just plain disgusting!

July 4, 2011 at 11:13 a.m.
chet123 said...

This is the reason successful black entartainer who was educated in Chattanooga never return home...They remember too clearly of boonie HATEFUL redneck like the hair-dresser Rhonda Thurman...You will not even hear them mentioning Chattanooga/Hamilton county....ANd they are worth multi-millions...like Samuel Jackson,Usher Raymond,Terrel Owens, and the Late Reggie White...do you Blame them??? They saw this type ugliest as a child...The board exist to serve and county..not the other way around...if it fails during that it should be abolished....THANK RHONDA THURMAN...YOU HAVE STIRRED THE HORNET NEST!!

July 4, 2011 at 11:34 a.m.
rosebud said...

The TFP and some of the Scales fan club are making Rhonda Thurman to be public enemy # 1, and the chief villain of Scales. Okay, you can have it your way.

As long as you admit this: the only reason Scales kept his job as long as he did, and got his ridiculous contract extension in the first place was because of his # 1 supporter, Janice Boydston. You remember Janice, don't you? The illustrious school board member who is banned from shopping at Walmart because of allegations she took things that didn't belong to her. The one who got a huge retirement payout thanks to her pals Scales and Kranz, who as usual, managed to sneak it by Rhonda and other honest school board members.

If Scales' # 1 supporter is Janice Boydston, and his # 1 detractor is someone who graduated from public schools, owns a business, makes an honest living, and gets re-elected with no opposition time after time....well, I'll go with the detractor.

July 4, 2011 at 11:36 a.m.
rosebud said...

Chet123, now you're blaming Rhonda for Usher, Samuel L. Jackson, Reggie White, and probably the death of Reggie White?

Honestly, I'm thrilled you're on Scales' side. That pretty much says it all.

July 4, 2011 at 11:38 a.m.
timbo said...

StrongChet123 I have really missed your incoherent diatribes on this subject. I am glad you are back. You should be appointed the official spokesperson for those who disagree with Rhonda. At least I am sure Rhonda hopes so.

You are so obsessed with Rhonda's butt, I think you are secretly in love with her. Maybe you are "Sir Mixalot", you know the guy on the recording about "Big Butts."

Keep it up Chet, you are the comic relief. I am sure Dr. Scales is glad to have a guy like you on his side.

July 4, 2011 at 11:49 a.m.
CBIKAS said...

Heresjohnny,

You need to doublecheck your facts on Deal v. HCDE. ABA Therapy works. Even the Judge said the Deals made the right decision to go against the school system. If ABA therapy is applied too late to a child, it is ineffective. So timing is critical.

ABA therapy is expensive. And I can see why the HCDE would oppose it. The more money spent on special needs kids, the less central office employees can shove in their pockets.

The decision by the School Board to spend over a million dollars fighting against a special needs family instead of getting that boy treatments he needed is an absolute disgrace. The HCDE did a great job covering that up. And I'm willing to bet they spent a pretty penny doing it.

As for Dendod not understanding autism and its treatments, that was uncalled for. The man helps families with mental illnesses and made some great points. So please focus on issues and not personal attacks.

My child is autistic. My nephew is autistic. And I have spent an obscene amount of time looking into different treatment plans. TEAM Centers has been very helpful here. And I appreciate their guidance.

Some of the same School Board members and Central Office staff that caused Deal v. HCDE are still around. Even Ann Kennedy ( HCDE Autism Specialist - today and even during Zachary Deal's time) admits there's a lot of work to do. And I can assure you she is right.

So please stop bashing ABA therapy before some poor parent accidently harms their child. The school system is still behind the times in regards to Autism. For this problem to get fixed the first step is actually recognizing there is a problem, not covering it up.

July 4, 2011 at 12:33 p.m.
Selah said...

Timbo...Oh, your from the Tea Party...oh, no you've ran from that to Independant party or maybe youv've jumped ship to the ***!!! Timbo YOU ARE CONFUSED...You need to do more research before you continue to post on the educational issues. You have made your "racist" comments continuously and I am not surprised you side with Rosebud who may be our Lovely Rhonda Thurman. Your responses are emotional...I base my on the facts and how this community is viewing all of this MESS...Chattanooga is Racist...anytime Elected officials can get away with making outright Racist comments with no consequences (yet) it is pathetic!!! Timbo don't think I am a minority just b/c I called RACISM out amongst you and this county. The only hypocrites are the school board members who serve their own hidden agendas and a superintendent who gets a job based on "who he knows" not his abilities. He went to talk with the Chamber...come PUBLIC with all those INNOVATIVE, WONDERFUL GOALS Mr. Superintendent...The Public wants to HEAR them ALL!!! Time is on our side, yes it is...

July 4, 2011 at 12:41 p.m.
Selah said...

Was the Chamber threatened to lose its funding from the county if he didn't back down??? Think about it...its all connected

July 4, 2011 at 12:43 p.m.
Selah said...

I have to say Rhonda your team has the POWER...the County has the POWER...I am a little jealous...You all did a smooth operation, really smooth. BUT remember POWER can sometimes be costly and lead to a downfall. PRIDE is a hard thing to shake sometimes.

July 4, 2011 at 12:45 p.m.
Chattanegro said...

And we wonder why Tennesse is so far behind in education. This is all about the merger, do your homework. Brown v. The Board of Education happened over 50 years ago Tennesseeans, catch up.

July 4, 2011 at 2:47 p.m.
timbo said...

Selah, your starting to sound like chet123 you say you're not emotional then you go on emotional rant. .Is everything about racism ? I dare you to find 1 racist comment that that I have made . You need to grow up . What aconvenient excuse for lack of performance .

July 4, 2011 at 2:50 p.m.
Selah said...

Timbo...all you do is end in namecalling and when your point is shot down you call others "emotional". Look at the man in the mirror.
Isn't it funny that a racist never knows he/she is racist? All they do is say we want our surburban schools to succeed...to hell with the rural, inner city... I am sitting back to watch HCDE Part 5

The savior is here! The savior is here! here to save all the poor little children...here to make surburban schools successful...The savior is here...appointed by the school board fab 5...Is this the Messiah! The one we've been told about???

July 4, 2011 at 3:04 p.m.
chet123 said...

TIMBO....dont worry who Selah sounds like....your friend ROSEBUD(RHONDA THURMAN) will face the warth of people who have awaken...we will not have the GOOD OLE BOY systems here in Hamilton County School System....This matter may go to court...would have to have Rhonda Thurman and her attorney Subpoena to court....so save your smart ass remarks for later...see you and your boonies in a court room...you will be stopped.

July 4, 2011 at 5:29 p.m.
chet123 said...

TIMBO...I WOULDNT BE SUPPRISE IF YOU ARE DUMB BUTT RICK SMITH....THIS MATTER WILL COME TO A HEAD...SOON!

July 4, 2011 at 5:43 p.m.
chet123 said...

TIMBO(RICK SMITH)ROSEBUD(RHONDA BIG BUTT THURMAN)....PLEASE DONT GO INTO HIDING...DONT LOSE ANY SLEEP!...LOL LOL LOL...BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE A LOT OF QUESTION TO ANSWER...I'VE LEARN OVER THE YEARS THAT YOU CANT CAST PEARLS TO A SWINE....RHONDA THURMAN HAVE NO BUSINESS..NO BUSINESS STICKING HER RACIST NOSE INTO ANY EDUCATION MATTERS...SHE BARELY MAKE IT THRU HIGH SCHOOL...NOW SHE'S AN EXPERT...WHAT A JOKE!!!

July 4, 2011 at 5:50 p.m.
timbo said...

Selah, just like I thought , can't find 1 racist comment .I don't think you know much about grammar . I said that you made "an emotional rant"..Thathe is not a name .Itwas a description. A name would be something like "you are a liberal idiots ". I did not say anything like that.

July 4, 2011 at 7:23 p.m.
schoolmom said...

I have a couple of questions: 1. Why is being led by a "hairdresser" bad? My "hairdresser" who is not Rhonda Thurman is an intelligent lady? I personally have 2 bachelor's degrees and an associate's degree. Because of that does that mean that my opinions are better? 2. Did anyone contact any of the school board members before the Scales buyout? I sent an email to all 9 asking for a response. I asked why they would not wait till next year when his contract was out. Two out of the nine responded to me. One was Rhonda Thurman and the other was Joe Galloway. I am only in one of their districts but the other one took the time. They told me that Hamilton county would come out cheaper if they bought him out before June 30, 2011. We would not have to pay $18000/year in retirement for him. Not sure if we were able to avoid this but I intend of finding out. I go to the source for answers to my questions.

July 4, 2011 at 7:39 p.m.
schoolmom said...

I will go on record to say YES I am a Rhonda Thurman supporter. Yes I have 2 children that are in the public school system. I work three 12 hour days/week outside the home at one job, have a home business, and have another job that I do 2 hours/week but am at the school enough that a lot of parents and students think I work there. Am I telling you this for praise? No, I am telling you so you will know that I am aware of what goes on in my girls' school. I know that in my suburban school that toilets are not fixed throughout the school, some of the bathrooms do not have warm water, there are pests that the teachers do not bring in their bags because of fear that they will bring "unwanted guests" in their home. I believe Rick Smith will know this if he is appointed. He will be IN the schools to see for himself what is going on. Scales was at my girls' school one time that i know of for about 5 minutes.What could he see during 5 minutes? Don't worry that Rhonda or Rick will go into hiding. The parents that I speak with support Rhonda because she says what most are thinking. Yes she may not say it in the most pleasant way but you will know how you stand with her. I don't believe she is a racist person. I think her point was that the surburban schools may get a chance to have new computers or P. boards like the Title 1 schools get. Several of the out of date computers and the P. boards my girls' school have been purchased by the PTA. The parents and teachers of the PTA has worked hard fundraising after working their 40 hours or more at their jobs to get the equipment that I have heard Title 1 schools get freely. I as Rhonda and Rick Smith want every child that goes to a Hamilton County School to have the same equipment and teachers available to them. That is why Rhonda is vocal about any budget concerns she has. I am looking forward to seeing a full house at the special school board meeting this Thursday. I am sure that each of you that have commented have made arrangements to be there. I know I have rearranged my schedule to be there.

July 4, 2011 at 7:40 p.m.
chet123 said...

lISTEN SCHOOLMOM...AND I WANT YOU TO LISTEN VERY CAREFULLY....YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I DO THAT IF RHONDA HAD GONE BY THIS THE RIGHT WAY YOU WOULD NOT BE MAKING EXCUSES FOR HER...I SYMPATHIZE WITH YOU ON YOUR LITTLE GIRL PROBLEMS AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN WORKED OUT..BUT FOR YEARS CITY SCHOOLS HAD AND STILL HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS...SOME OF THE SCHOOL LIKE CHATTANOOGA ART AND SCIENCE USE TO BE CITY HIGH SCHOOL(ALL WHITE STUDENT) ALMOST 50 YEARS AGO..IT WAS GIVEN TO RIVERSIDE IN 1963 WITH OLD FACILITIES AND USED BOOK PAST DOWN TO THE BLACK STUDENT..THAT SAME OLD BUILDING IS CHATTANOOGA ART AND SCIENCE SO PLEASE DONT MAKE THIS A INNER CITY VERSE RURAL...BECAUSE THAT WHAT RHONDA HAVE DONE. SHE HAVE BRAIN-WASHED GOOD PEOPLE LIKE YOU,,,THE WOMAN IS OUT RIGHT EVIL..SHE ALSO HAVE MADE IT A BLACK AND WHITE ISSUE...LET THIS MATTER GO TO COURT AND THEY WILL STRAIGHTEN IT OUT....RHONDA HAVE A SMART MOUTH AND A NASTY DISPOSITION...SHE MOST HAVE A LOW-LIFE BACKGROUND!..IN THE PAST, RHONDA HAVE MADE DEROGATORY COMMENTS ABOUT A SEGMENT OF OUR SCHOOL CHILDREN...SHE LOVE TO PICK ON THE LOWER INCOME CHILDREN...MAYBE THAT MAKE HER FEEL SUPERIOR(THE FOOL ONLY A HAIRDRESSER)SHE HAVE MADE COMMENTS ON RADIO TALK SHOWS THAT WAS RECORDED...SHE MAY BE YOUR GOOD FRIEND BUT SCHOOLMOM YOU NEED TO KNOW HOW TO PICK YOUR FRIENDS..MY ADVISE TO YOU IS TO STAY AWAY OR YOU WILL GET "TAR" STUCKED ON YOU.

July 4, 2011 at 8:52 p.m.
chet123 said...

SCHOOL-MOM...THE PRINCIPAL AT HOWARD HIGH EVEN HAVE A PHD...HOW CAN HE PUSH HIS STAFF AND STUDENT TO EXCELL WITH A RETARD AS RICK SMITH BEING HANDED A JOB WITHOUT COMPETITION...HE HAVE BEEN TOO TRIFLING AND SORROW TO UP-GRADE...SCALE SHOULD HAVE DEMOTED RICK SMITH 5YEARS AGO INSTEAD OF LETTING HIM STICK AROUND AND PLOT AGAINST HIM

July 4, 2011 at 9:02 p.m.
chet123 said...

TYPICAL REPUBLICAN...FIND THE DUMMBEST PERSON AND PUT HIM IN OFFICE LOL LOL LOL AS LONG AS HE KISS BUTTS...

July 4, 2011 at 9:06 p.m.
timbo said...

A little tired of the racism talk. What is racist about the following:

  • The Rhonda side was just as aggressive to get rid of Register as we were getting rid of Scales. They are both incompetent puppets of the PEF and the HCEA. All you have to do is listen to Scales butcher the English language to wonder about his competency. A Doctor of Education, School superintendent should be able to speak properly. (And I am not talking about his accent)
  • Rhonda was only one vote when Register was put on the road. If the other school board members liked Register, why did they vote to get rid of him? Were the black members being racist voting to get rid of him because they wanted a black superintendent? Was some kind of political deal made and this was quid pro quo. Was it the evil politics of which you speak.

  • The main issues have always been how the money is being spent. The urban schools are majority black, but the magnet schools have a sizable white population. Both of these types of schools get additional funding from the federal, state, and local government. If it was about money, they should be outperforming Soddy-Daisy, but alas they are not. Soddy-Daisy is the highest performing school and the lowest per pupil cost.

  • Since the suburban schools are majority white and funding per pupil is significantly less, the strong argument would be that under funding of these schools is racist against whites.

  • Another important issue for people like Rhonda is a basic disagreement that government has carte blanche to take our money and give it to some else. We don't like tax increases and will vote for people who don't vote for them. Duh! HOW IS THAT RACIST?

  • This constant harping about hillbillies and rednecks is no different than a KKK member hating blacks. It is about class and with blacks it is about race. I know a lot more black racists that post on this page than I do white ones. WHY AREN'T YOU GUYS BEING RACIST/ARROGANT/ELITISTS?

The problem is that any time a black official gets into trouble or is incompetent you just say race. It is so easy to throw that out and ignore the facts. It's hard to face the truth.

Register and Scales, the HCEA, the PEF, the liberal Lookout Mountain elite, all wanted a direction that some of us didn't want.
They dominated the old city system and the county system for years. We won the election last time and the direction has changed for the better. This childish reaction and racist talk just shows that you people are just like you think we are. SAD.


July 4, 2011 at 9:09 p.m.
chet123 said...

lOOK TIMBO...SODDY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN BACKWOOD UNTIL CHATTANOOGA HOME OWNER START MOVING IN TO EVADE HIGH CITY PROPERTY TAX...SO YOU SODDY PEOPLE SHOULD THANKS CHATTANOOGAN....SO KNOW HOW TO HANDLE YOUR TRANSITION...YOU WERE LAST IN EVERYTHING...THANKS TO THE CITY FLIGHT FOR YOUR SUCCESS..FOR AS OUT PERFORMING CCAS...YOU ARE CRAZY..THAT ANOTHER FAT LIE....WHO FUZZ YOUR NUMBER....CHECK THE RECORDS ON SODDY COLLEGE GRADUATE AGAINST CCAS COLLEGE GRADUATE...THEY BEAT YOU HAND DOWN....THATS A FACT GOMER..YOU DONT LIVE IN THE CDALE OF EDUCATION TIMBO..NO GREAT SCIENTIST,,NO NOBEL PRIZE WINNER....NO GREAT DOCTORS...NO BILLIONAIRES...YOU ARE A GENERATION FROM A DIRT FARMER SO PLEASE...TELL THAT LIE TO SOMEONE ELSE!..AND IF SODDY DURING AS WELL AS YOU CLAIM...WHAT THE PROBLEM???...I THINK ITS A POWER PLAY...SODDY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN KLANISH...AND ALWAYS WILL BE KLANISH...TOO MANY FIRST COUSIN MARRIAGES

July 4, 2011 at 9:35 p.m.
chet123 said...

TIMBO...THIS THE ADVANTAGE I HAVE OVER YOU...I KNOW WHAT YOU THINK...I HAVE LIVE AND WORKED WITH PEOPLE JUST LIKE YOU...I NEVER RAN AWAY FROM THEIR PRESENT..BUT I STUDIED THEIR/YOUR LITTLE PEA-BRAIN...THE YOUNGER WHITE ARE MUCH EASIER TO GET ALONG WITH....YOU AND FOLK LIKE RHONDA ARE TOO FAR GONE...YOU LEARN TO THINK THE WAY YOU DO FROM YOUR FAMILIES AND HYPOCRITES CHURCHES....YOU ARE TRYING TO HOLD ON TO THE PAST...LAST TIME I WAS IN SODDY..I NOTICE ALL THE MUSLIM WITH BUSINESS THERE...YOUR TOP STUDENT IN SODDY HIGH ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR LOL LOL....YOU AND RHONDA(ROSEBUD) WILL BE IN COURT...SO YOU CAN GET READY FOR HELL COMING YOUR WAY LOL LOL LOL

July 4, 2011 at 9:45 p.m.
chet123 said...

RHONDA THURMAN GOING DOWN IN COURT!!!!

July 4, 2011 at 9:49 p.m.
eastridge8 said...

chet123....I can't make heads or tails out of half of what you say anymore...

July 4, 2011 at 9:59 p.m.
rosebud said...

hey chet123, put down your 2nd grade participation diploma long enough to do your homework before you write stupid stuff here. The Howard principal does not have his PhD, he has a "preacher's" doctorate degree. Or to put it where you can understand it:

YOU IS WRONG. LOL HAND DOWN

Again, as long as you and Janice Boydston are Scales' biggest fans, it's pretty easy to see why he was such a failure.

July 4, 2011 at 9:59 p.m.
schoolmom said...

Thank you Chet123 for your comments on that you believe the only reason I would need to make excuses for Rhonda is that she went about it in the wrong way. No I don't think anyone needs to make excuses for Rhonda. She is a lady that needs no one to defend her. As it has been said before Rhonda is one out of nine. She has not been or has not brainwashed anyone. The first school board meeting that i went to when my oldest girl was in kindergarten I was in the audience listening to her say why does it take 1 year to train a superintendent? In my mind I said the exact same thing. At my job the person is lucky to get trained for 2 to 3 weeks. My job deals with make one mistake and the person may not be around or seriously injured. Thank you for saying that my children have little problems. Yes, I do agree. When my children go to school they don't have to worry about their fellow student's behavior problems. But instead of all of us worried about how Rick Smith may get the job should we as parents and tax payers not worry about what he can accomplish for our children. Not the suburb children or the inner city children but ALL of Hamilton County children? I am excited about that my 4th grader child is getting a new math curriculm this year. Not sure if any of the other parents tried to help their child do Everyday Math but I did as well as other parents. We had extreme difficulties due to there was very little if any examples of how the math was to be completed. This new textbook i was able to review before it was adopted. It is a regular textbook that has real examples and problems.

July 4, 2011 at 11:51 p.m.
timbo said...

Chet123 You never address any point, you just try to insult. Thank God people like you don't like me. I bet your brain patterns look like a monkey having sex with a football. Who in the world can understand anything you post. Why are you obsessed with court and butts? You do have an advantage over me, you speak gibberish and I don't. The only first cousin marriages I know about are on Lookout Mountain. Royalty must marry royalty.

rosebud, I think Chet123 is really Scales, he writes like Scales talks. lol,lol

July 5, 2011 at 12:12 a.m.
MountainJoe said...

chet123 back on the meds ... seriously ....

July 5, 2011 at 12:18 a.m.
MountainJoe said...

timbo I think you have it right! chet123 is Scales. How else can you explain the complete lack of ability to express oneself in comprehensible English?

July 5, 2011 at 12:19 a.m.
MountainJoe said...

Forget race. Please. Look at the facts. Scales was a failure. Failing schools. Test scores down. Had to have an $80K mouthpiece to translate his thoughts into English. Black, white, red, brown, whatever ... a failure by any standard. Good riddance.

July 5, 2011 at 12:22 a.m.
schoolmom said...

Also in computer etiquette all caps is yelling. When I first started my job after college I was not aware of this. I typed my first email in all caps because that is what our computer system was normally on because of the computer program that my company used. To type emails we had to change it to lower case. I usually don't get into shouting matches in person or on the computer. As far as Rhonda being my friend I thank you for the compliment. We are not friends but acquaintances. The reason we are acquaintances is that she is one of the two on the school board that will answer parent questions. I don't believe you should have to be friends to talk to anyone that is your representive or someone at Central Office that is being paid by mine and your tax money. Rick Smith is not a fool. I am not friends with him either. However, when I did contact him by email on the weekend 2 weeks ago on Monday morning he personally responded to my question with whom I should contact to find out the answer. That is more than I can say for Scales. I contacted him by email, a letter personally delivered to Central Office and by a phone call. I never got a direct response from him. If I want answers I go to the person that is in charge not to anyone else. Also if Rick Smith is appointed to the job did he not say that he was going to the principals to ask for their input? Howard High's Principal will be asked his input on how to improve his school. From the limited amount of observation that I have of Rick Smith he will listen and implement the changes that can be made.

Also Rhonda has not made it a black/white issue I believe that is Chet123 and some of Rhonda's fellow board members. Rhonda stands up for what she believes is right for the Hamilton County Children not a black or white child. Also at the last school board meeting it was not Rhonda that was doing most of the talking but the other board members. I was at that meeting. That is one of the reasons that I attend the school board meetings it to see what is actually said by whom. I recommend everyone to attend a school board meeting. That way you will see first hand who is standing up for our children.

July 5, 2011 at 12:30 a.m.
schoolmom said...

So am i correct that you are saying that the inner city schools do not get new textbooks when the school board approves it? Why are the parents not crying out about that? Wait, I am thinking maybe in March or April of 2010 there was an outcry. But the school year was almost over. Why was the parents not in an uproar in October of 2009 at the beginning of the year? The Hamilton County Children can access some or all of their textbooks online if they have a password. The problem is getting the password for each student. Some children may not have a computer but I see a lot of children that have cell phones that probably can be hooked up to wi-fi. How can Rick Smith improve our schools when he has been in our system over 20 years? That is how he can improve our schools. He has seen our shortcomings and now will have the power to hopefully change some of the shortcomings. He can go to those businesses and ask them what does a person need to succeed in your business? He may not be a PHD but that is ok. Maybe we will not need to have a consultant for 1 full year since he is a "good ole boy". That will be what at least $150,000 that we can save to purchase those textbooks or computers for Hamilton County Children.

July 5, 2011 at 12:33 a.m.
chet123 said...

Rosebud(rhonda),Mountainjoe,Timbo,Schoolmom,eastridge, see I have you making family calls. Save your words for court...See how much sense you make there.

So RoseBud, you are saying Howard Principal dont have a PHD...only a Dr in divinity...hmmmmm are you saying hes a little above your dumb ass friend Rick Smith...OK...then im wrong about PHD!...i can do something you cant do..admit a mistake...that doesnt elevate nor exhilarate your RED NECK BUDDY RICK SMITH.

Schoolmom...you are not the only one with a child in public school...please keep your child name out of this matter... dont hide behind your child for dumb ass RICK SMITH..Stand on your own merit..because RICK SMITH have none.If you think i'm hostile..wait and see what you have coming this FALL....LOL LOL LOL

Timbo...I dont mean to insult Soddy High but will not let you talk as Soddy have a superior breed of student..many of the Student Parent are from Chattanooga..They moveed to soddy to evade the high city taxes of chattanooga....i know about Soddy past...the 20 member school band they use to have...the football team that lost to red bank 50 years in a row...and their under performing student they had for a long time....i heard about the phony test scores you keep beating your chest over...which i dont trust unless i'm giving the test...but i know the high percentage of students that excell in college with a 4 year degree(not 2year) are from CSAS...... and i think you and Rhonda Thurman were JEALOUS...this is why you refuse to have a search committee to get a new superintendent....you want to pull the strings...and everybody in Chattanooga talking about it...

July 5, 2011 at 10:52 a.m.
chet123 said...

I have a suggestion....It was five against one.....maybe you need to call 30 or 40 more cousins and folks from Soddy to try and even this argument...because i havent heard one statement to justify why you rewrote the policy and lower the qualification of the Superintendent job..EXCEPT TO PUT YOUR DUMB ASS OLD OLD BUDDY RICK SMITH(WHO WAS TOO DUMB TO PURSUE A PHD)..DECIDED TO UNDERMIND HIS WAY IN...HE WILL NEVER HAVE OR GET RESPECT FROM PRINCIPALS AND TEACHERS...HE WILL SPLIT THE HAMITON COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL..THIS IS WHAT RHONDA THURMAN DOES...SHE BRING OUT THE WORST IN PEOPLE....

July 5, 2011 at 11:06 a.m.
chet123 said...

CANT WAIT TO HEAR FROM YOU INBREEDS... I WILL BE WAITING ON YOUR REPLY....PLEASE DO SO!

July 5, 2011 at 11:10 a.m.
timbo said...

Chet123...It is amazing to me that you can be wrong every time you post. A blind hog can find an acorn every now and again.

We don't care what people like you say about Soddy-Daisy. Most people want their kids to go to a good school. They are not waiting in line to get into Brainard or Howard. Good students want out. As far as CSAS goes, it is a good school but not as high performing as Soddy-Daisy. Most of the influx of students were old Hixson residents, not downtown Chattanooga.

In your utopia of Chattanooga in the neighborhoods we are discussing you have to worry that the Crips or Bloods might blow your head off. We don't have to worry about from the Hillbillies and Rednecks in Soddy-Daisy. Jealousy is an ugly thing.

July 5, 2011 at 12:03 p.m.
eastridge8 said...

Gee chet123...I was only saying that from time to time you actually make sense...but when you go ALL caps you make NO sense...is it temper or what?...you named and insutled everyone but me...I'm hurt that you used my name but said nothing mean or insulting to me... Come on, I know you've got it in you to be nasty... let's hear it...

Wait! I'll give you something nasty to say...I THINK RHONDA THURMAN IS THE CLOSEST THING THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS AS A WATCHDOG! SHE IS USING STONE COLD LOGIC AND GOOD COMMON SENSE! I HATE IT THAT SHE CAN'T BE SUPERINTENDENT! SHE IS THE ONLY PERSON TRULY LOOKING OUT FOR HAMILTON COUNTY STUDENTS...BLACK OR WHITE!....now you say something...

July 5, 2011 at 12:03 p.m.
chet123 said...

TIMBO...I TRACK YOUR WORDS AND HEAR EVERYTHING YOU SAY...FOR A LONG TIME i DIDNT SAY ANYTHING KNOWING YOU WILL DENY...BUT MY GOOD FRIEND IF YOU CAN SAY YOU HAVENT TRIED TO MAKE THIS A BLACK AND WHITE ..RURAL AND CITY ISSUE THEN YOU ARE LYING MY GOOD FRIEND...YOU STARTED IT...AND I WILL FINISH IT...YOU CLAIM I'M WRONG...THEN QUOTE IT!!!...I SAY YOU ARE AN OUT RIGHT LIAR!!!AND SO ARE THE OTHER HATERS WHO SIDE WITH YOU...SEE TIMBO...YOU LIKE TO THROW STONES AND HIDE YOUR HANDs...WHILE LIVING IN A GLASS-HOUSE.....MY GREIVENCE WAS THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN A SEARCH COMMITTEE TO GET SOMEONE OUTSIDE..YOU ARE NOT DICTATOR FOOL..THIS IS THE CITIZEN TAX DOLLARS...NOT YOURS,OR RHONDA THURMAN..YOU DONT UNDERSTAND THAT YOU AND RHONDA THURMAN HAVE CREATED EVEN MORE PROBLEMS.....YOU WANT TO MANAGE ON A NEPOTISM SYSTEMS...AND THIS IS A POWDER CAKE WAITING TO GO OFF...I'M WARNING YOU AHEAD....HATE TO BE SAYING ...I TOLD YOU SO....BUT RHONDA THURMAN HAVE PERSUADE YOU IN TO DESTOYING GOOD MEN REPUTATIONS BECAUSE SHE WANT TO MALNIPULATE....YOU BETTER HOPE JESSE REGISTER DONT ASSIST YOUR OPPONENTS OR THIS COULD GET NASTY

July 5, 2011 at 12:40 p.m.
chet123 said...

EASTRIDGE...BE HONEST BRO....YOU MADE A SMART-ASS COMMENT[JULY 4 9:59]...THATS HOW YOU GOT INTO THE CROSS-FIRE....WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE TRUTH..THE INTIAL ISSSUE WAS THE FAILURE TO GET SOMEONE NUETRAL THRU A SEARCH COMMITTEE.. IS THAT ASKING FOR TOO MUCH..THESE ARE NOT RHONDA THURMAN DOLLARS SHE HAVE WASTED OVER THE YEARS)THE TRUTH IS LIKE A DOUBLE EDGE SWORD....IT SLICE FRIENDS AND FOE SO STAY BACK .YOU DONT BEND THE TRUTH BECAUSE YOU ARE FRIENDS..THAT THE PROBLEM WITH RHONDA THURMAN SYSTEMS...THEY ARE ALL FRIENDS....RHONDA THURMAN,RICK(NO BACKBONE)SMITH, FRED(BULL CONNER)SKILLERN...ALL SODDY PEOPLE..NEPOTISM,NEPOTISM,NEPOTISM

July 5, 2011 at 1:03 p.m.
chet123 said...

EASTRIDGE im really a nice guy july 5 12:03...your comment remind me of people like you saying the same thing about George W. Bush....how he had common sense(sometimes we need above average...since you compel the school children to have above average....so one rule for them and another set of rules for you and your buddies..Hmmm..we saw how George W. screw up economy and country up....See people like you...when you cant stack-up to the challenge...you use the common sense logic....Rick Smith not smart enough so you use the COMMON SENSE LOGIC LOL LOL LOL...Rhonda Thurman not smart enough for college she just a dumb hairdresser..so you use the COMMON SENSE LOGIC...SHE HAS COMMON SENSE....COMMON SENSE...COMMON SENSE....just play your little game...EASTRIDGE...YOU TRYING TO HIDE AND THROW STONES....I HAD YOU FIGURE OUT RIGHT...EASTRIDGE REPRESENTATIVE VOTED WITH BIG BUTT RHONDA THURMAN.

I'm stepping out of my office for a while...

July 5, 2011 at 1:05 p.m.
chet123 said...

Rosebud(rhonda thurman)Bimbo I mean Timbo...have the rest of your thugs when i get back around 4pm...have aleast 30...tell them to take a number

July 5, 2011 at 1:09 p.m.
stormmuzac said...

All of this bickering back and forth seems to miss one underlying fact: "We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately" (Ben Franklin). What does it matter if Soddy High has a great grades if Howard doesn't? When industry looks at locating in a certain area, they look at the school system as a whole. Dr. Scales may have had his drawbacks, but overall performance for the Hamilton County School System improved during his tenure, as it did under Dr. Register before him. Are things perfect? No. But they are, or were, improving.

Rhonda Thurman should be voted out of office. For her to asssociate inner city reading skills with slavery is astonishingly hardhearted, and in my opinion, overtly racist. She could have chosen to say that the Irish that were brought here as indentured servants learned to read, or that any one of a number of other minority groups learned to read under difficult circumstances. This statement was clearly aimed at inner city black students, even though I am sure a large number of white students don't fare well on standardized reading tests either. In fact, if our school system grades are low, population numbers alone prove that blacks can't be the sole reason. There just aren't enough of us to skew the numbers that way.

My daughter is a nurse, and I continually urge her to leave Chattanooga. I don't want future grandchildren growing up in a community where school board members feel free to associate learning to read with slavery, and county commisioners feel free to describe their black counterparts with the "n" word. And I don't want them growing up in a community that seems to condone such things (last time I checked, Mr. Skillern was still in office).

I wonder if Volkswagon is starting to rethink their decision to locate here?

July 5, 2011 at 1:23 p.m.
stormmuzac said...

One more thing - to lower the hiring standards and change the rules so that your guy gets the job is amazing! And to be able to strong arm the Chamber of Commerce into rescinding their negative comments is breathtaking! New York crime bosses and Louisianna politicians must be looking on with sincere admiration! Rod Blagojevich is probably kicking himself because he didn't move to Tennessee and run for office!

Rick Smith may be a nice enough guy, and he may even be qualified, but he will always be remembered as the Thurman gang's boy.

July 5, 2011 at 1:36 p.m.
timbo said...

Chet123 What in heck is a "powder cake." It that like an exploding cake. An exploding Twinkie would be dangerous. Be carefull with se Little Debbie, she is out to get you. I think you meant "powder keg."

July 5, 2011 at 2:04 p.m.
timbo said...

Stormmuzac you are making the same points. NOONE, said anything about race but you guys. You and people like Chet123 brought it up from the start. When ever anyone stands up to you guys you cry racism. If your daughter wants to leave, good riddence. As far as VW goes, I hope they do leave. On the way out, they can leave us a check for the millions we paid them for hiring people from out of town. If you read the agreement it would curl your hair.

The problem in the school system is that the children with good parents and the children who don't don't.

July 5, 2011 at 2:23 p.m.
eastridge8 said...

chet123....We HAVE gone the "national search" route 3 times and all 3 times they were a bust. They made NO headway/accopmlishments and proved to be absolute FAILURES! So why NOT give a local man...Rick Smith...a chance? He's been here long enough to know what's going on and what's wrong with the system. He surly can't do worse that the mess the other 3 created. And if he does I say "The Watchdog" will speak up. She won't let him get by with the same "crap" the others did. She won't risk losing the support of parents/teachers/principals just because she supports him.

I say she and the other board members will "hold Rick's feet to the fire" mainly because he's local and he says he can "fix it". If he turns out to be the wrong man/person for the job, why, we'll just "buy" him out like we did the other 3. But I still say...GIVE RICK SMITH A CHANCE.

And hairdressers everywhere are totally insulted by your comment about Rhonda being "just a dumb hairdresser". Some of the SMARTEST people are people who never went to college! Maybe they couldn't afford it. That's no shame. And why do you say Rick Smith is dumb? He went to college and got a good education, I'm sure.

Abe Lincoln didn't attend college either but he is HIGHLY regarded and respected as ONE OF THE BEST PRESIDENTS THIS NATION EVER HAD...I doubt seriously you would call him "dumb" for lack of a college education....like you call Rhonda. I still say "common sense" goes a LONG way this day and time. It's something sorely lacking in MOST politicians and I find it very refreshing.

July 5, 2011 at 2:40 p.m.
chet123 said...

EASTRIDGE...YOU ARE LYING THRU YOUR TEETH...THE ONLY ONE COMPLAINING WAS RHONDA THURMAN AND HER THUGS...WHAT YOU FAIL TO MENTION IS THAT THERE ARE HUNDRED OF HOURS OF HER APPEARING ON RADIO TALKSHOW SUCH AS 102.3 MORNING TALK..MAKING NEGATIVE STATEMENT ABOUT REYNOLDS,REGISTER, AND SCALES..TALKING ABOUT INNER CITY CHILDREN LIKE A DOG...SHE CAN NOLONGER BE EFFECTIVE AS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD... SHE TALKS AS IF SHE IS AN EXPERT...WHAT EXPERTISE RHONDA THURMAN HAVE IN EDUCATION ...NONE!..NONE!..NONE!...MAYBE A GED...JUST A MERCHANT OF HATE!...GLAD SCALES EXPOSED HER FOR WHAT SHE IS...SHE IS NOT A LADY...SHE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO SHAKE OFF THIS DECEIT AND MISTRUST THE PRINCIPALS,TEACHERS, STUDENT AND PUBLIC SEE IN HER.

LISTEN TO EASTRIDGE...LOL LOL LOL..ABE LINCOLN DIDNT ATTEND COLLEGE...NOW PEOPLE LIKE YOU MAKING CLAIM THAT HE WAS A GOOD PRESIDENT...THE SOUTH FOUGHT AGAINST THE MAN...AND KILL HIM..HIDING BEHIND LINCOLN NOW...HOW ABOUT THAT FOLK...EASTRIDGE JUST COMPARED "RICK DUMB BUTT SMITH TO ABE LINCOLN".LOL LOL LOL

THERE WERE 8 OTHER PRESIDENT WITH HIM WHO DIDNT GO TO COLLEGE OR GRADUATE...BUT THIS IS 2011...NOT 1776 OR 1800..THIS IS 2011...DONT TRY TO DEVALUE EDUCATION....THIS IS WHAT YOU WILL TELL OUR STUDENTS TO GET HIGHER GRADE..WHY CRITICIZE THE LOW INCOME CHILDREN IF ABE LINCOLN IS YOUR NEW STANDARD....THIS IS WHAT HAMILTON COUNTY GET WHEN POLITIC IS INTO OUR EDUCATION SYSTEMS..ABSOLUTE DUMB-ASS LEADERS..EASTRIDGE THIS IS 2011...CAN YOU GET IT IN YOUR PEA-BRAIN...THIS IS 2011..CHINA,JAPAN, WILL EAT YOUR LUNCH TEACHING SUCH FOOLISHNESS TO OUR STUDENT WHICH IS OUR FUTURE...STAY ON THE ISSUE AND STOP TALKING CRAZY EASTRIDGE....DIDNT KNOW YOU WERE SUCH A RHONDA THURMAN AND HER BOY-FRIEND RICK SMITH LOVER...YOU ARE COMING OUT OF THE CLOSET LOL LOL LOL..

July 5, 2011 at 5:10 p.m.
chet123 said...

YOU SAY WE HAVE GONE THE ROUTE 3 TIMES....AND IT WAS A BUST...THAT A LIE...EDUCATION IMPROVED IN CHATTANOOGA...I THINK THAT WHAT YOU AFRAID OF...STUDENT BECOMING ENLIGHTEN...YOU WANT TO DENOUNCE SCIENCE...AND BELIEVE THE EARTH IS 6000 YEARS OLD....WHAT YOU DONT WANT IS SMARTER STUDENTS...WHAT DO PEOPLE LIKE RHONDA THURMAN AND FRED(BULL CONNER)SKILLEARN KNOW...WHO HAVE NO COLLEGE DEGREE...HOW CAN THOSE TWO HELP TO PREPARE OUR STUDENTS FOR THE FUTURE..WHAT A JOKE!

July 5, 2011 at 5:20 p.m.
chet123 said...

I WILL BET YOU ANYTHING... EASTRIDGE,TIMBO,REDROSE(RHONDA THURMAN)FRED SKILLERN IS SITTING IN CHURCH PEWS EVERY SUNDAY...WITH THEIR TWISTED THINKING...GETTING AFFIRM BY THE CONGRAGATION SOUTHERN CHRISTIAN CHURCHES.....THIS IS WHY THEY ARE LOSING THE RECRUITING OF THE HEART AND SOULS...THEIR HALLMARK ARE LIES, HATE, AND HYPOCRISY.

July 5, 2011 at 5:30 p.m.
rosebud said...

Come on, really? Some of you are still debating with chet123? What a waste of time. Or as he would write, "WHAT A WAIST OF TIM."

I think chet123 should go on a Scales Fan Club shopping trip to Walmart with club president Janice Boydston. Oh wait. She's not allowed inside Walmart.

Or maybe he could take a tour of suburban schools with Register's board chairman Charles Love. Oh wait. Is he out of jail yet?

July 5, 2011 at 9:17 p.m.
timbo said...

This isn't a debate. It is a massacre.

July 5, 2011 at 9:38 p.m.
chet123 said...

ROSEBUD(REALLY RHONDA BIG BUTT CHICKEN NECK )THURMAN AND TIMBO(RICK SMITH NO BACKBONE-NOT SMART ENOUGH FOR PHD)....YOU SAY 2 WORDS AND THATS A MASSACRE LOL LOL LOL...I BEEN WAITHING FOR YOU..SEE YOU IN HIDING...SAW CHICKEN NECK RHONDA THURMAN....YOU WILL BE IN FOR A SUPPRISE LOL LOL LOL LOL

July 5, 2011 at 10:51 p.m.
chet123 said...

ROSEBUD,TIM...BRING YOU OTHER COUSINS FROM SODDY BACKWOODS....RED NECK HEADQUARTERS

July 5, 2011 at 10:54 p.m.
rosebud said...

DEER CHET123, THANK U FOR SPEEKING UP 4 DOCKTER SKALES. WIF FRENDS LIKE U, HE DON'T NEED NO EMENIES. AND EXCETERA. NO MUTTER WHUT RONDA SAYYS, HE AM NUT A FORRENER.

July 5, 2011 at 11:12 p.m.
timbo said...

Chet123 I knew you were grammar challenged but didn't realize you had such a problem with math. "2 Words", I think there were a few more than that.

The only way you will surprise me is if you can put a three word sentence together that is coherent.

July 5, 2011 at 11:12 p.m.
chet123 said...

HEY TIMMY...DUMB BUTT RICK SMITH TAUGHT ME...AND HES THE SUPERINTENDENT..LOL LOL LOL

SO YOU BELEIVE IN HIGH STANDARDS....LIKE YOU TELL THE STUDENT IN HAMILTON COUNTY....BUT WHEN IT COME TO SUPERINTENDENT IT DONT APPLY...YOU CAN SAY OR CALL ME ANYTHING....BUT EVERYBODY SEE WHAT FOOL YOU(RICK SMITH) AND ROSEBUD(RHONDA THURMAN)REALLY ARE...YOU WILL FACE THE WRATH GOMER

July 5, 2011 at 11:44 p.m.
chet123 said...

HEY TIMBO....DOING DRIVE BY TONITE...YOU SAY 2 WORDS THEN TAKE OFF RUNNING LIKE A SCARE RABBIT

July 5, 2011 at 11:47 p.m.
chet123 said...

ROSEBUD,,,KNOW YOU ARE CHICKEN NECK RHONDA THURMAN....SEE YOU SAY 2 WORD AND RUNS ....I CAN SAY THIS ABOUT MOST POSTER HERE THEY ARE GOOD PEOPLE...BUT YOU MY DEAR IS WHITE TRAILER TRASH FROM SODDY

July 5, 2011 at 11:50 p.m.
chet123 said...

BY THE WAY...YOU LOVE PERFECT ENGLISH...THATS WHY YOU VOTED FOR GEORGE W. BUSH LOL LOL LOL

OH I FORGET YOU LOWER THE STANDARD FOR YOU BUDDIES...LOL LOL LOL

RICK SMITH AND GEORGE W. IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHITE TRASH AFFIRMATIVE ACTION

July 5, 2011 at 11:56 p.m.
chet123 said...

ROSEBUD...I LOVE YOUR ROAD-KILL TALK....IS THAT WHAT YOU HAVING FOR DINNER???

July 5, 2011 at 11:58 p.m.
chet123 said...

WHERE IS ROSEBUD(RHONDA CHICKEN NECK THURMAN)

July 6, 2011 at midnight
chet123 said...

I TRIED TO STAY ON THE ISSUE..BUT ROSEBUD AND TIMBO...WANTED TO GET PERSONAL...THEY WILL NOT BULLY ME AS THEY DID JIM SCALES AND JESSE REGISTER.....

July 6, 2011 at 12:03 a.m.
Selah said...

Timbo...please...Go back and re-read your posts here and with other articles. You have been called out by more people than me. Take a good look at yourself. Where their is two or three witnesses...there may be a case. Racist are never ashamed or acknowledge their racism...not until they are called on the carper by a higher power or criminally charged. The wheels of justice turn slowly (hopefully, not this time...b/c the day of deliverance has been brewing for a while...try 13+ years) Lord, forgive us our sins...sins of omission and comission but please make things right for the innocent children...They need You, oh God...We NEED YOU OH GOD.

July 6, 2011 at 2 a.m.
schoolmom said...

chet123 would you take the time to list SPECIFIC incidents that you have dealt with Rick Smith and Rhonda Thurman to have such hostility toward them? I as well as others that have read your posts realize that you are passionate about something they have done. Maybe it is the way that the rule was voted on and changed that you don't like them. However, it seems like it goes back to more than that. I think this is funny "Rosebud (Rhonda),Mountainjoe,Timbo,Schoolmom,eastridge, see I have you making family calls. Save your words for court...See how much sense you make there." I am not sure how any of us was able to make family calls since no one uses their real names. If Eastridge really lives in Eastridge each of us probably live in a seperate part of the county or city and we have no other contact with each other than reading each other's post. Rosebud and Timbo are not against you but are trying to make sure that the people that read these posts but never comment understand that Rick Smith and Rhonda Thurman may not have a PHD or a college degree but they should be given a chance to make improvements. Yes, every child should be encouraged to get as much education as possible. Be that a two, four or doctorate degree if they want it. Not everyone is going to want that no matter if they are smart enough.

Maybe if all of us that read and post on this site knew the specifics of why you think Rick Smith is dumb then we would understand why you or someone else would like to take them to court. Court would not benefit any of Hamilton County students but take time and money away from them. Rick Smith if he does get the job would then have to deal with lawyers instead of researching for himself where are schools are lacking. Who benefits from that?

July 6, 2011 at 6:14 a.m.
chet123 said...

SCHOOLMOM....THERE ARE SEVERAL REASONS WHY I AM SO ANGRY....

(1). NEPOTISM - YOU WOULD BE ANGRY IF JEFF WILSON HAD PICK HIS GIRL-FRIEND OR WIFE FOR SUPERINTENDENT

(2). RICK SMITH IS UNDER-QUALIFIED

(3). THE 5 BOARD MEMBER HAD THE BRAZEN NERVE TO CHANGE THE POLICY TO QUALIFY RICK SMITH --TO LOWER THE STANDARD-- CONSTITUTION AND POLICIES ARE TO BE RESPECTED THEY ARE THERE TO SURPRESS PREJUDICE AND BIAS...THEY ARE A CONSTANT FACTOR NOT A VARIABLE -- YOU CANT HAVE CIVIL ORDER WITHOUT IT.....THIS IS WHY THERE IS SO MUCH BLOOD SHADE IN 3RD WORLD NATION..YOU RESPECT EACH OTHER.

(4).THERE WERE NO SEARCH COMMITTEE

(5).THE LAST 3 SUPERINTENDENTS WERE GREAT MEN WHO CHARACTERS WERE UNJUSTLY DEFAME BY A CERTAIN BOARD MEMBER.

(6).THE BOARD TALK A GOOD TALK BUT DONT WALK IT...CHALLENGE THE STUDENT TO EXCELL AND MAKE GOOD GRADE...THEN TURN AROUND AND DEVALUE EDUCATION BY SAYING WE DONT NEED A PHD

(7). MOST OF ALL ..IT THIS BOARD MEMBER NAMED RHONDA THURMAN...WHAT RHONDA WILL LEARN IS THAT WHEN YOU ARE CRITICIZING PEOPLE YOU YOURSELF BECOME A OBJECT FOR CRITICISM...RHONDA HAVE MADE HERSELF THE JUDGE,JURY, AND EXERCUTOR(TERMINATOR)

THERE ARE MANY MORE I CAN LIST...OVER THE YEARS I HAVE HEARD RHONDA THURMAN SLAMMED POOR INNER CITY STUDENT ALONG WITH HOWARD SCHOOL...THESE STUDENT DONT HAVE A VOICE...RHONDA POUNCED ON THEM IN A WAY SHE WOULD NEVER ATTACK EAST RIDGE OR SIGNAL MOUNTAIN..SHE SUPPOSE TO LOOK OUT FOR THEIR BEST INTEREST...A GROWN WOMAN BEATING UP ON YOUNG STUDENT....I CAN SAY RHONDA THURMAN IS HATED WITH A PASSION...ON A HATE SCALE FROM 1 TO 10..I AM A 5...BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF 10'S OUT THERE...SHE HAS RAN HER MOUTH WITH PREJUDICE AND HATE AGAINST POOR INCOME STUDENTS ON TV,RADIO,NEWSPAPER,TOWN HALLS,AND AT HER HAIR SHOP....AS JEFF WILSON(WHO IS A QUIET CHRISTIAN MEN)SAID IT WILL BE HARD FOR RICK SMITH AND RHONDA THURMAN THIS FALL...EVEN IF THEY ARE LUCKY ENOUGH TO AVOID COURT.

July 6, 2011 at 9:19 a.m.
chet123 said...

FARTHER MORE I THINK ROSEBUD IS RHONDA THURMAN...SHE IS A RATTLE-SNAKE....ROSEBUDS REVEALED SOME INFORMATION THAT ONLY A BOARD MEMBER WOULD KNOW....I CAN TELL ROSEBUD IS IN A PANIC....ALSO SHE HAS A NASTY DISPOSITION...JUST LIKE RHONDA(TRASHY) I THREW THE HOOK OUT THERE AND SHE COULDNT RESIST..Hmmmmmm...ONLY A BOARD MEMBER HAVE THAT INFORMATION LOL LOL LOL...

July 6, 2011 at 9:27 a.m.
chet123 said...

schoolmom...i have a question for you....why are you defending RHONDA THURMAN...i have always list reasons that I and many others in the Hamiton County cant stand the lady....but you pretend you dont hear those reason.. you ask me to give specific..run a track on me..you will see i'm consistent..are you doing the jury nullification...that is, you hear a ton of evidence and reason but you ignore the evidence never entertain the information and go contrary.

I trust you have integrity...ROSEBUD AND TIMBO DONT... I WILL WAIT ON YOUR REPONSE

July 6, 2011 at 9:43 a.m.
eastridge8 said...

Oy vey...you can't reason or talk civil to someone who WILL NOT TRY TO SEE ALL SIDES and DEMANDS you agree with ONLY their side...

I give up...and yes, I live in ER.

July 6, 2011 at 11:14 a.m.
stormmuzac said...

Timbo - what set your fuse off? I said that in my opinion Ms. Thurman's comment was racist. And I know you aren't trying to defend Mr. Skillern's statement. Or are you?

Let me ask you this: if you lived in a city where the administration was mostly black, and a councilman said that he didn't invite any (supply any term you like for white people) to a unofficial official meeting because they couldn't dance, how would you like that? If the statement was that Jewish people learned to speak German at Auschwich right before being shot, how would that sit with you? Would you feel outraged?

I am not trying to sugar coat the fact that a lot of under performing schools are in the city. They are. I agree with you - parents need to be more involved. Bad parenting leads to bad grades and bad schools. But that doesn't excuse Ms. Thurman, or the rest of the school board, for their bad behaivior.

July 6, 2011 at 1:27 p.m.
timbo said...

selah, here are the facts on the racism accusations. In the 2nd post in this string, before anyone else wrote a comment you said the following: ".How dare you Rhonda---evidently supporting kids is not your goal...promoting negative, racist perceptions is...VOTE them OUT..." This was before anyone on this string mentioned racism. The next reference to racism was: 328Kwebsite said, "The emphasis on suburban schools seems appropriate to some because that's where the white people are. In your next post you said,"Racism is the last card I wanted to say BUT it is clear in today's article with Thurman's comments...SHE IS THE ONLY ONE BRAVE ENOUGH TO SPEAK IT..." Again this is before I said anything about anything.

Racism was mentioned by Joe, 14th post, Bret, 17 post, HigerLevelThinker, Chet123...etc.etc. etc. all mentioned racism before I posted anything.

Almost every post you said something about race. The people who agree with you talked and talked about race, race race. This is why you don't have any credibility on this subject. Do you actually think that your opinion, or people like you about racism matters to me at all. You are all brainwashed to respond to any comment in regards to this subject like Pavlov's dog.

Don't tell me to look in the mirror...when you have enough problems of your own. I just showed you the proof that you have a racism problem yourself. You are obsessed with race. I know this does no good because proof means nothing to a liberal. You operate on emotion and fantasy.

July 6, 2011 at 4:41 p.m.
timbo said...

Stormmuzac - Those were absolute weak analogies. Read my comments to Selah.

Let me make another analogy. You have a race of people who vote for democrats 93%, they vote 98% for someone for president of their own race (when 37% of white people voted for him), as a rule they like only music from people of their own race, have beauty pagents with their own race, go to church with their own race, have their own TV channel, their own caucus in congress, (Is there a "White Caucasian men caucus in congress?), they and you guys constantly accuse people of the opposite race as being rednecks and hillbillies just because they disagree with you. etc. etc. etc. Would you say that these actions are racist? Only they are not in your rose colored glasses because the perpetrators are black it's ok. What if they were white like in the 1930's , was their racism ok like yours?

The real racists are people who don't think blacks can perform equal to whites unless we spend twice as much money on them as we do white students. Does a Howard student deserve twice the amount of per pupil spending as a suburban student? I don't think so.

The best thing you guys can do is leave out race. This is about culture not race. We felt exactly the same about Register and he was whiter than me. Scales was the black version of Register. YOu guys are just using race because you have nothing else. The liberals at the TFP and the foundations have lost control of the school system and were beaten by a little ole hair dresser. They can't take it.

July 6, 2011 at 5:04 p.m.
schoolmom said...

chet123 I do appreciate you taking the time to outline what you have against Rhonda and Rick. There are still some questions that I have but I will answer the question that you asked of me. Why do I defend Rhonda? I personally have neverheard her put down any child when she has spoken on talk radio 102.3. I listen to that station every morning on my way to work. I was fortunate to have to work extra on Tuesday and heard her call. Rhonda at that time explained that she was misquoted in the Sunday paper and expanded on that. I personally like as one person said that she is our "watchdog". I have been present to hear her question why would the school board send I believe it was 7 informational service people to a conference for training when we could send 2 people and they come back to train the others. I agree with that. If Hamilton County had a unlimited budget I woudl love to send all 7 however we don't. I have heard Rhonda ask "Why would Hamilton County pay someone for one full year to be a consultant to train a person that should already know how to do the job?" (Sorry that you was confused on a previous email that you thought it was my kindergarten daughter that asked that.)Rhonda has always been against that Everyday Math curriculum. I was against this curriculum also. This curriculum did not teach our children in my opinion how to do math that will benefit them. Such as being able to subtract, add, and divide in their heads. When they are in a store and trying to figure out how much an item is per ounce with this everyday math that goes in a long drawn out way there is no way a child could do figure out how much it is per unit. This math that Hamilton County just adopted will teach the children how to do math that can really be used in everyday society. Rhonda backed this idea. If Rhonda is asked a question or contacted Rhonda responds. It may not be the way you like it but she tells you the truth. I don't want someone to tell me what they think i want to hear when they know it is a lie. Not everyone is going to like the same people I know. As you said some people really hate her. However as a parent I like there is someone that will ask questions about different items. Those questions may help others think about different solutions.

July 6, 2011 at 6:39 p.m.
schoolmom said...

Chet123 I am still unsure why you believe Rick Smith is unqualified. I do not think the board is devauling education by saying that the superintendent does not need a PHD. How many people actually get a PHD? Also a undergraduate program that is good will teach sometimes more than a doctorate program. I know that from personal experience my undergraduate program taught a curriculm that was similar to other colleges doctorate program. So Rick may just have an undergraduate degree but I did not go to college with him so I am not sure if his knowledge that he received is more like what others received in a doctorate program. Also he has experience of working in the schools. I have asked school teachers what they think of Rick and how he would do. Each have responded that they think he would do a good job. When they have met him in their schools he has actually listened to their concerns. Not sure if you actually read the editoral yesterday by Joe Smith from the Y but he said that he had worked with Rick Smith and supported Rick being the superintendent. Rick has an advantage also that his wife is a teacher. I believe she will keep him informed of what teachers need and want to be able to help all of Hamilton County students succeed that want to succeed. I believe the message the board sends to students when they say that the person does not have to have a PHD is you can succeed with time and work. Not everyone wants to go for their doctorate. We need all types of people to make up our society. A fast food worker, maintenance worker, hairdresser, doctor, vet, nurse, bill collector, office worker are all needed and should be valued. Just because a person is a fast food worker or a hairdresser does not mean that they are not able to reason or give to society. I was a fast food worker when I was in high school and college. i was getting my education but certain people that i would serve would talk down to me. Was this right? No!!! What are we telling our children when we say Rick Smith is unqualified because he does not have a PHD? i think we are telling our children if they are unable to get a PHD then their opinions do not matter.

July 6, 2011 at 7:05 p.m.
schoolmom said...

Che123 I am also interested in a little more information on this :FARTHER MORE I THINK ROSEBUD IS RHONDA THURMAN...SHE IS A RATTLE-SNAKE....ROSEBUDS REVEALED SOME INFORMATION THAT ONLY A BOARD MEMBER WOULD KNOW....I CAN TELL ROSEBUD IS IN A PANIC....ALSO SHE HAS A NASTY DISPOSITION...JUST LIKE RHONDA(TRASHY) I THREW THE HOOK OUT THERE AND SHE COULDNT RESIST..Hmmmmmm...ONLY A BOARD MEMBER HAVE THAT INFORMATION LOL LOL LOL... if only a school board member would know the information how did you know it? I am thinking that you are not a school board member so somehow you found out the information? Maybe Rosebud found out the same way you did???

July 6, 2011 at 7:09 p.m.
Selah said...

Timbo...seems like we are rattling you cage. Calm down. We all need to take a look at ourselves every now and then. Of course a racist will never agree to being a racist. I would deny it to until I heard it from several people (must be some validity to it). I am not too distrubed by your comments b/c I know what I am dealing with. It is easier to address someone who comes on out with their racism and classicism. It is harder to deal with the undercover ones so kudos to you...just accept it or change it.

Injustice anywhere is a threat to Justice Everywhere Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Yes, Timbo ...he was an educated black man with a higher education, even a Doctorate degree (1968). He fought and died for causes of not only African Americans but the poor (period)...Lord, we need some help now. I fear the clock is turning back. I believe it was Churchill who once said "those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it"...

I refuse to reduce myself to namecalling, putdowns, and bullying. God is always in control and if you are a believer in Jesus Christ let's begin to pray to HIM for Justice for Our Children, period... The children are the only VICTIMS here...only the CHILDREN LHU

July 6, 2011 at 8:30 p.m.
stormmuzac said...

Timbo, I disagree - surprise! I think playing the race card is this: I was denied because I am black. Thst isn't what I said. I said that I think Ms Thurman's comment was insensitive and racist. And Mr. Skillern's comment was worse.

I never thought the African American Chamber of Commerce was anything other than a rip off. I supported Fred Thompson. I voted for Obama for a number of reasons, one of which was because he is black (actually mixed, but I don't think that matters). My son listens to Aerosmith more than JZ. If I want to see black people on TV, where do I look? It may not make sense to you, but seeing a black person on the tube once in awhile is something black people enjoy. I don't know what the Congressional Black Caucas actually does, but then again, I think most, if not all, of the politicians in DC are charlatans that are enriching themselves at our expense. Republican and Democrat. And I don't call anyone hill billy or hick and neither do my children or anyone I choose to associate with.

I agree that all children should be expected to learn. It was a crime a few years ago when our black "leaders" refused a new building for Howard - refurbish for millions, now the roof leaks. I think all school facilities should be on par with each other, and I think a lot of the spending under Dr. Scales went in that direction. I know there are suburban schools that need work, and they should get the money they require. Every child deserves a chance.

That still doesn't change the fact that I do not support Ms. Thurman's approach to governance.

July 6, 2011 at 9:35 p.m.
SavartiTN said...

I have mixed feelings about this. With children in this school system, I have noticed that the suburban schools seem to go without...without maintenance, without books, without good administration. I have long wondered why the poor, white people don't have rec centers, community swimming pools, and parks. Does that make me racist?

I don't believe that Scales was doing a good job if, for nothing else, his lack of ability to pull the school board together for the best interest of their clients, the Hamilton County public school children.

From personal experience, I don't think that Rick Smith is the best candidate for superintendent.

Let's think about what Thurman is supposedly quoted as saying..."What do they want?" It is a valid question. What DO "they" want? Money is being spent in certain schools with no results. Howard High School's start time had to be moved to later in the morning because students wouldn't get up and come in earlier (I feel that this is a problem at ALL the middle and high schools and needs to be changed for ALL). In Ooltewah High, black students are allowed to disrupt class and not disciplined...they teachers have publicly said that if they discipline, they are accused of racism.

My adopted children have been pushed through the system with no expectation of performing well. If I had not demanded that they make good grades, they would not have and no one at the school would have cared.

My one criticism of Thurman is this...if you run for school board member, then you should have the expectation that you might have to take off some time from work. Hello!

There is something rotten in this school system nowadays and it's not Rhonda Thurman. I feel her frustration.

July 6, 2011 at 11:18 p.m.
tnvret said...

If Chattanooga wanted to control schools, it shouldn't have abdicated. Better two school systems than the constant bickering. The county's error was in treating the matter as a merger.

July 7, 2011 at 12:18 a.m.
TheTeacher said...

Sorry, readers, this is the best editing I could do with what was written while trying to keep the integrity of the writer's intent. The corrections appear in italics.

The Teacher

LISTEN SCHOOLMOM, AND I WANT YOU TO LISTEN VERY CAREFULLY. StrongYOU KNOW AS WELL AS I DO THAT IF RHONDA HAD GONE about THIS THE RIGHT WAY YOU WOULD NOT BE MAKING EXCUSES FOR HER. I SYMPATHIZE WITH YOU ON YOUR LITTLE GIRL's PROBLEMS AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN WORKED OUT, BUT FOR YEARS CITY SCHOOLS have HAD AND STILL HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS. SOME OF THE SCHOOLs LIKE CHATTANOOGA School for the ARTs AND SCIENCEs USEd TO BE CITY HIGH SCHOOL (ALL WHITE STUDENTs), ALMOST 50 YEARS AGO. IT WAS GIVEN TO RIVERSIDE IN 1963 along WITH the OLD FACILITIES AND USED BOOKs were PASsed DOWN TO THE BLACK STUDENTs. THAT SAME OLD BUILDING IS CHATTANOOGA School for the ARTs AND SCIENCEs , SO PLEASE DON'T MAKE THIS A INNER CITY VERSus RURAL issue bECAUSE THAT WHAT RHONDA has DONE. SHE has BRAIN-WASHED GOOD PEOPLE LIKE YOU. THE WOMAN IS OUTRIGHT EVIL. SHE ALSO has MADE IT A BLACK AND WHITE ISSUE. LET THIS MATTER GO TO COURT AND THEY WILL STRAIGHTEN IT OUT. RHONDA has A SMART MOUTH AND A NASTY DISPOSITION. SHE MuST HAVE A LOW-LIFE BACKGROUND! IN THE PAST, RHONDA has MADE DEROGATORY COMMENTS ABOUT A SEGMENT OF OUR SCHOOL CHILDREN. SHE LOVEs TO PICK ON THE LOWER INCOME CHILDREN. MAYBE THAT MAKEs HER FEEL SUPERIOR (THE FOOLis ONLY A HAIRDRESSER) SHE has MADE COMMENTS ON RADIO TALK SHOWS THAT were RECORDED. SHE MAY BE YOUR GOOD FRIEND BUT, SCHOOLMOM, YOU NEED TO KNOW HOW TO PICK YOUR FRIENDS. MY ADVIce TO YOU IS TO STAY AWAY OR YOU WILL GET "TAR" STUCK ON YOU.

July 7, 2011 at 7:09 p.m.
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