published Friday, July 8th, 2011

Rick Smith chosen as new schools Hamilton County Schools Superintendent

Hamilton County Schools Superintendent Rick Smith speaks to the media in this file photo.
Hamilton County Schools Superintendent Rick Smith speaks to the media in this file photo.
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    The Hamilton County school board voted 5-3 Thursday to hire Rick Smith as superintendent.

The chairman of the Hamilton County school board insists the 5-3 vote to hire Rick Smith as superintendent Thursday night was not forced by political “good old boys” and said he didn’t push the vote because he is a puppet of the County Commission.

But Board of Education members who voted against Smith’s hire and the four-year contract stipulating his $163,500 annual salary said they are embarrassed by the decision, calling the process to select Smith unprofessional, secretive and politically motivated.

“I have never talked to a single county commissioner about (Jim Scales’) buyout or the contract. Rick Smith is not a good old boy. He’s a lifetime educator,” board Chairman Mike Evatt said after the meeting in which discussion was brusque, lasting no longer than 30 minutes.

Board member Linda Mosley, who voted with George Ricks and Jeffrey Wilson against the hiring of Smith, said, “We are really selling ourselves short.”

A large crowd sat or stood in the board meeting room and crowded into the hallway outside, with some hoping to speak about the issue, but public comments weren’t allowed.

Angel Ulmer came to the meeting with a prepared statement about why the school board should search across the nation for the best superintendent.

“What are we showing our students when we’re not looking for the most qualified person?” Ulmer said after the board vote.

Also attending the meeting was state Rep. JoAnne Favors, D-Chattanooga, who called Wednesday for school board member Rhonda Thurman to resign after Thurman was quoted in Sunday’s Times Free Press saying that poor inner city schools were getting too much money without a lot of payoff and “slaves learned to read.”

Favors, wearing a bright red suit and hat and sitting in the front row, said Thursday that Smith’s supporters on the board — Thurman, Joe Galloway, Everett Fairchild, Mike Evatt and David Testerman — have set a terrible example for students by changing board policies to accommodate one person and refusing to conduct a search for the best candidate, including someone with a doctoral degree.

In June, the board voted 5-3 to change its policy of holding a series of meetings, possibly conducting an outside search and doing public interviews before selecting a superintendent.

Favors said she still thinks Thurman’s comments about inner-city students reflect racist attitudes.

Thurman, who has said the superintendent position should be filled locally and has remained a vocal supporter of Smith, didn’t respond to Favors’ criticisms at Thursday’s board meeting and didn’t offer an apology.

“I’m glad it’s over,” Thurman said after the vote.

Some at the meeting, including former County Commission candidate Red Burrows, thought it wasn’t Thurman who was wrong, but Favors.

“Some people came to stir up trouble,” he said. “That’s why that state representative in the red hat is here.”

On the other hand, he said, Thurman has dealt with the issue.

“Rhonda has more — a lot of people would say testicles — but more boldness than anybody else up there,” he said.

Thurman was a longtime political opponent of former superintendent Jim Scales. On May 26, the school board voted 6-3 to buy out Scales’ contract, which will cost the county between $285,000 and $300,000.

Once Thursday’s meeting adjourned, Ed Gravitte, 81, stood up and told his wife, who taught in Hamilton County for 37 years, that he’d been waiting for this day for five years. In 2006, the school voted to hire Scales; Smith had withdrawn his name from consideration as superintendent.

In 2009, Gravitte’s son, Eddie, was suspended from his position as principal of Signal Mountain Middle/High School and is now assistant principal at East Hamilton Middle/High.

Smith’s experiences as a teacher, football coach, principal and deputy superintendent, Gravitte said, will help him move the school district forward. And, he added, Smith is a local.

DISCUSSION

Board members took fire at one another during the meeting, and both Evatt and Thurman were ready to defend the deal with Smith.

Evatt said he drafted the agreement with Smith himself while Evatt was on vacation this week. He said Smith accepted the $163,500 salary after a three-minute conversation. Smith’s current pay is more than $115,000 a year.

Wilson, who was among several board members who hadn’t seen the contract before Thursday’s meeting, said he wanted to know why Smith didn’t hire a lawyer or want to discuss the terms.

Responding to Wilson, Thurman said a school board member had drawn up Jim Scales’ renewal contract, then voted it through with a majority without showing it to certain board members.

On Thursday, Smith announced a series of appointments he’d made to jobs at the Central Office, including an assistant superintendent and the directors of middle schools and high schools.

Wilson said Smith shouldn’t have made appointments before being officially named superintendent. Without an open search for those jobs, the process is unfair, Wilson said.

“This has become a debacle,” he said. “This is not done right. It doesn’t look right.”

Mosley wanted to know why Smith hadn’t pursued a doctoral degree during his six years as deputy superintendent if he wanted the school’s top post and knew such degrees were the standard for the last two Hamilton County superintendents.

“I’ve tried to weigh the responsibilities of the job with being away from the job,” Smith said. “Getting a Ph.D. — that is something people do in our profession. I don’t necessarily think it’s a qualifier or should be a disqualifier.”

Fairchild agreed.

“Sometimes people are educated beyond their ability to comprehend,” he said, and some people in the crowd gasped.

Lowering the standard now would force the board to make a huge financial leap later if they want to get another superintendent with a doctoral degree, Wilson said.

Thurman said the school board was saving big dollars by making the deal with Smith. Scales’ pay was $58,000 higher than what was offered to Smith, and Scales didn’t have to pay his health insurance, which Smith will be required to do.

Scales also received a $50,000 signing bonus and $25,000 travel expenses, all points left out of Smith’s contract, Thurman said.

“I think those things are huge,” she said.

“I hope you know what you are asking for,” Ricks said to Smith.

“I never got in it for the money,” Smith told the board.

“We are going to work you,” Ricks said.

about Joan Garrett McClane...

Joan Garrett McClane has been a staff writer for the Times Free Press since August 2007. Before becoming a general assignment writer for the paper, she wrote about business, higher education and the court systems. She grew up the oldest of five sisters near Birmingham, Ala., and graduated with a master's and bachelor's degrees in journalism from the University of Alabama. Before landing her first full-time job as a reporter at the Times Free Press, ...

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nucanuck said...

Nary a word about children or excellence in education...Houston, we have a problem.

July 8, 2011 at 1:13 a.m.
queenmyer said...

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July 8, 2011 at 5:01 a.m.
ITguy said...

You can't make this stuff up.

July 8, 2011 at 6:33 a.m.
timbo said...

I would rather have good old boys running things than the the rich old boys in the public education foundation and the loiokout mountain mafia . they have failed miserably. It is time to give someone else a chance . as far as doctors degrees go ,nothing could be more useless in this job .what is needed here is a leader .rick smith experience far exceeds any degree .a doctor's degree in education is probably equilivent 2 year degree in a technical field . it's just like diving at the olympics ,every subject has a degree of difficulty an education is way down the scale . any employer will tell you that a degree will only prepare you to begin a learning a vocation .experience is much more valuable a commodity . To bellitle that fact shows how little people like joann favors know about the real world. excuse the syntax I am voice dialing

July 8, 2011 at 7:39 a.m.

A terrible, terrible series of decisions.

Politicizing education, unfortunately, is nothing new. You just hope that we would eventually grow out of our provincialism and our lust for power. Republicans are acting like Democrats acted when Democrats dominated local government. Thurman is the GOP's Ward Crutchfield. Bold? Maybe. But crooked is crooked and boldness only makes it worse. Of course, private schools are the only long-term beneficiaries of this sort of short-sightedness and cronyism.

A terrible, terrible series of decisions.

July 8, 2011 at 8:07 a.m.
rosebud said...

Now will the Chattanooga Times move on to some other target, so that we can have school without all the name-calling and race-baiting? Show's over folks. Nothing to see here. Good luck, Mr. Smith, I hope you can rise above the insanity, and the with any luck, the newly out-of-power crowd will sit back, shut up, and let you do your job.

July 8, 2011 at 8:51 a.m.
chet123 said...

TIMBO....YOUR GOOD OLE BOYS....

CREATED JIM CROW....

AT LARGE VOTING IN CHATTANOOGA(WHICH BLOCKED BLACKS OUTSIDE THE POLITICAL PROCESS)BLACKS IN CHATTANOOGA HAD TO GO TO FEDERAL COURT TO STRIKE IT DOWN...JUDGE ALLAN EDGAR SAID THE WHITE IN CHATTANOOGA THINK THEY KNOW WHATS GOOD FOR BLACKS(HOW EASY WE FORGET)

NEPOTISM(HIRING YOUR FRIENDS AS YOU DID WITH RICK SMITH)

THE MOST QUALIFIED IS OVER LOOKED

NO CHECK AND BALANCE

QUID PRO QUO(YOU STRATCH MY BACK I SCRATCH YOUR)

NO SUNSHINE LAW(JUST MEET WITH UNCLE JED AT THE FAMILY BAR-B-Q...AND MAKE PUBLIC POLICY...)

EDUCATION OF CHATTANOOGA STUDENTS BECOME SECONDARY---FRIENDS AND REALTIVES ARE MORE IMPORTANT

I KNOW THIS YOUR IDEA WORLD TIMBO...BUT YOU HAVENT HEARD THE LAST OF IT....

REMEMBER THE MAJORITY CANT BULLDOZE THE MINORITY... DEMOCRACY IS NOT MOB RULE!

TIMBO....ITS NICE TO HEAR THAT CONFESSION...IT IS GOOD OLE BOY..CRONYISM...BUTT KISSING SYSTEM...

BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF OUR CHILDREN TIMBO

IT IS NOT OVER MY FRIEND SO DONT GET TOO COMFORTABLE!!

July 8, 2011 at 9:07 a.m.
dao1980 said...

What happened chet, I had nominated you for the position.

Didn't you show up?

July 8, 2011 at 9:17 a.m.
chet123 said...

ROSEBUD...YOU HAVE A LOT OF NERVES...LET HIM DO HIS JOB!...LET HIM DO HIS JOB!..LOL LOL LOL THOSE WORDS SHOULDNT BE COMING OUT OF YOUR LYING LIPS...AFTER THE WAY YOU(RHONDA THURMAN) TIMBO AND YOUR SODDY THUGS PEST,DOGGED, AND DEFAMED GOOD MEN...BECAUSE THEY WOULDNT LET YOU HAVE YOUR WAY(THE LAST 3 SUPERINTENDENT).SO YOU SPREAD LIES AND CONSPIRED TO OUST ALL THREE MEN..NOW THATS SHEER EVIL...AND YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND GIVE THE ADVICE...LET HIM DO HIS JOB..LET HIM DO HIS JOB!.WHAT BRAZEN NERVES YOU HAVE LADY...

July 8, 2011 at 9:35 a.m.
fedup350 said...

Wake Up Chet, there are no Jim Crow laws anymore and Republicans didnt create them rhe Democrats did. If you are going to post at least read a history book and quit making things up. I will give you credit for getting one thing right. A lot of unqualified people have been hired in the last few decades, its called affirmative action. Jim Scales Scales had a Doctorate but once when giving an interview about a burglary at Howard High School it said that the office had been "ramshackled". Just for you Chet I will tell you, the word he should have used was ransacked. Is that your idea of quailified people being hired? I bet you graduated from Howard High School didnt you Chet? You are right about one thing..its not over. Now maybe in the next election Linda Mosely can get voted out too. Now go ahead Chet go ahead and respond to this with one of you childish rascist rants so we can all hit the "suggest removal" button on it.

July 8, 2011 at 9:36 a.m.
chet123 said...

I'M MORE QUALIFIED THAN THE CRONY THEY JUST INSTALLED

July 8, 2011 at 9:37 a.m.
fedup350 said...

Oh and Chet...look down at your keyboard on your rent a center computer. Do you see that button on the lower right? Its called "Caps Lock". Push that button once Chet.

July 8, 2011 at 9:41 a.m.

fedup350 said...

"Wake Up Chet, there are no Jim Crow laws anymore and Republicans didnt create them rhe Democrats did."

And all those Jim Crow Democrats became Republicans when 1) other Democrats began implementing Civil Rights legislation in the 1960s and 2) Republicans began pandering to Jim Crow Democrats in the South, also in the 1960s. Your understanding of American political history is outdated by about fifty years. Is Rick Smith going to let you write the new history textbooks? I wouldn't be surprised.

July 8, 2011 at 9:45 a.m.
chet123 said...

FEDUP350..IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE DEMOCRATS..LET ME CORRECT YOU AGAIN....YOU ARE TALKING BRAND/NAME....I'M TALIKG COMPOSITION...KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING...THAT ELEMENT OF RACSIM AND HATE LEFT THE DEMOCRATS AFTER 1964 VOTING RIGHT BILL WAS PASSED...AND RONALD REAGAN(YOUR HERO) PICKED THEM UP IN 1980(REAGAN PRESIDENCY KICK OFF WAS IN PHILADELPHIA MISSISSIPPI,TOWN OF THE 3 MURDERED CIVIL RIGHT WORKERS)THAT GROUP CONSIST OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO ARE NOW REPUBLICAN.....DONT YOU JUST HATE A SMART NEGRO LOL LOL LOL ...YOU DONT REVISE HISTORY ON ME

July 8, 2011 at 9:49 a.m.
bret said...

So according to Rhonda, paying Jim Scales $300K for doing nothing plus paying Rick Smith $170K is "saving big dollars?"
No, Rhonda, that's called spending $170K more than you had to.

Seems to me that they could have saved the extra $170K they spent by forcing Scales to work out his contract and then hiring Smith next year.

July 8, 2011 at 9:51 a.m.
fedup350 said...

Let me see now whats wrong with the world, you just qouted me the political scene from the 1960's and you are saying that I am 50 years behind? I stated the facts, You stated your perception of politics 50 years ago. I would say that you are 50 years behind.

July 8, 2011 at 9:52 a.m.
chet123 said...

FEDUP350....YOU REALLY AMAZE ME WITH YOUR STUPIDITY...LOL LOL AFFIRMATIVE ACTION.....YOU JUST PLACE A MAN IN A POSITION WHO BEEN IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM 28 YEARS... AND IN ALL THAT TIME HE COULDNT ACHEIVE A PHD...LOL LOL LOL SO YOU RAILROAD HIM IN AS TOP-DOG LOL LOL LOL...AND WITH YOUR LYING MOUTH YOU HAVE THE HILLBILLY COCKINESS TO MENTION AFFIRMATIVE ACTION......AMAZING!!LOL LOL AMAZING! LOL LOL

July 8, 2011 at 10:02 a.m.
chet123 said...

THANK YOU WHAT WRONG WITH THE WORLD......FEDUP350 YOU ARE ONCE AGAIN A DUMMY....SEE WHY YOU PUSHING RICK SMITH.....THE DUMMY CLUB!

RHONDA THURMAN(THE GREETER)RICK SMITH(ELE.SCHOOL TEACHER)FED350(DONT HAVE A CLUE ABOUT HISTORY) ARE MEMBERS OF THE DUMMY CLUB

July 8, 2011 at 10:07 a.m.
chet123 said...

FEDUP350....DONT TRY TO SPLIT HAIRS...YOU JUST GOT BUSTED MAN..

YOU ARE A DUMB BUTT

July 8, 2011 at 10:12 a.m.
chet123 said...

IF THE SCHOOL BOARD CANT DO THEIR JOB...AND IT EVIDENTED THAT THEY ARE THE ONE WHO HAVE FAILED THE STUDENTS...THE SCHOOL BOARD NEED TO BE ABOLISHED

July 8, 2011 at 10:16 a.m.
chet123 said...

I SEE FEDUP350 FEELING WAS HURT...FOUND OUT HES NOT SMART AS HE THOUGH HE WAS LOL LOL LOL

July 8, 2011 at 10:19 a.m.

fedup350 said...

"I stated the facts, You stated your perception of politics 50 years ago."

It's not just my perception. If you're clueless to the fact that party affiliation in the south has changed dramatically since 1960, well ... what can I say.

I hear they're creating new positions over at HCDE. Looks like you may be qualified (using Rhonda's criteria).

July 8, 2011 at 10:21 a.m.
fedup350 said...

Bret I agree with you. They should have let Scales work out his contract then picked someone else. That was a waste of money no doubt.

Chet, I have concluded that you are writing these posts from your room in Moccosin Bend. Whats with the "lol, lol, lol, lol"? Childish! None of your posts make any sense at all. I usually skip what you write because of your glaring lack of anything intelligant to say. "Dumb Butt"? Really? Are you in third grade? It is really hard to believe that someone with your apparent lack of intelligence can say anything about Rick Smith not having a Doctorate. Do you know what a Doctorate is Chet? tell me what it is. Oh and have you noticed that you are the only poster on here that is in all caps? Again, look down to the lower left on your key board and hit the "Caps Lock" bitton. Jeez.....

July 8, 2011 at 10:22 a.m.
fedup350 said...

I stand corrected whats wrong with the world, What you said happened 50 years ago did happen. The South has gone to majority Republican. What in the world has that or Jim Crow Laws got to do with Rick Smith being hired?

July 8, 2011 at 10:30 a.m.
wd83 said...

Baylor/McCallie/GPS thank you continued patronage by electing morons....who elect morons.

Shame that such a vibrant and growing city cannot fix their public education system.

July 8, 2011 at 10:32 a.m.
timbo said...

Chet123 The same things were going on before the change in direction. Your side did a lot worse than anything being done now. You weren't upset then, so who cares if you are now.

July 8, 2011 at 10:35 a.m.
chet123 said...

StrongTHE REJECTION OF RICK SMITH HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH JIM SCALES.....

THE REJECTIONS INVOLVE THE BELOW:

THERE WERE NO SEARCH COMMITTEE FORMED:(RHONDA THURMAN HAND APPOINTMENT)

RICK SMITH DONT HAVE A PHD

THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN(MORE THAN PROFESSIONAL) RICK SMITH AND RHONDA THURMAN

RHONDA THURMAN FAIL TO EXERCISE CIVIL ORDER AND PARLIMENTARY PROCEDURE...SHE PLACE HERSELF AS A DICTATOR

NEPOTISM

TOO MANY SECRET MEETING WITH HER FOLLOWERS

RHONDA THURMAN RADIO APPEARANCE...SLAMMING THE INNER CITY STUDENTS....SAYING VERY DEROGATORY THINGS ABOUT THEM(ITS ON TAPE...SHE CANT DENY IT)

RHONDA THURMAN UNEDUCATED LADY WITH NO DIPLOMACY SKILLS NOR SENSITIVITY TO ANYONE THAT DONT LOOK LIKE HER

THE BIGGEST NEGATIVE AGAINST RICK SMITH BESIDE NOT HAVING A PHD IS HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH RHONDA THURMAN

July 8, 2011 at 10:45 a.m.
rosebud said...

While the TFP continues to spread the myth that the "Hamilton County good ol' boys" selected Rick Smith, along with people who don't know anything about education, here are some facts for anyone who might be interested.

Anong those who voted for Smith: Everett Fairchild, longtime CITY school educator. Mike Evatt, longtime CITY school employee/supervisor. Joe Galloway, longtime CITY school teacher/coach.

Among those who were against Smith: Chip Baker, absentee board member, NO education experience. George Ricks, NO education experience. Jeffery Wilson, NO education experience. Linda Mosley, NO education experience.

Former board members, previously against Smith: Joe Conner, backroom attorney, NO education experience. Charles "Tennessee Waltz" Love, NO education experience. Janice "banned from Walmart" Boydston.

So much for the good ol' boys.

July 8, 2011 at 10:47 a.m.
fedup350 said...

Excellent points Rosebud. Its hard to believe that the same people condemning this school board were ok with having two criminals on the board, Love and Boydston

July 8, 2011 at 10:52 a.m.

Any caring person reading both the results of the board meeting and many of the posts, would have to ask...what about our students?

Somewhere along the line they are the forgotten due to adult error.

July 8, 2011 at 10:54 a.m.
nucanuck said...

The scary thing is that this could be the real Chattanooga mentality...that the Chattanooga renaissance was transient and the deadheads win in the end.

July 8, 2011 at 10:56 a.m.
chet123 said...

FEDUP350...IF I AM WRITING FROM THE BEND.....THEN HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE GETTING BLISTERED BY A MORON....WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT YOUR EDUCATION LOL LOL

July 8, 2011 at 10:58 a.m.
fedup350 said...

Wow Chet calling yourself a moron, I agree with you for once!!

July 8, 2011 at 11:08 a.m.
chet123 said...

THEY DONT CARE ABOUT THE STUDENT....YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SELF-INTEREST....AND IS LOVING EVERY MINUTES OF THE ATTENTION.....

July 8, 2011 at 11:10 a.m.
chet123 said...

I SEE ROSEBUD TRYING TO CENSOR.....DONT BELEIVE IN THE 5TH AMENMENT UNLESS IT FIT HER NEEDS....SHE KNOW IT PROCESS WAS HANDLE ILLEGAL......IT WILL GO TO COURT!!!

July 8, 2011 at 11:13 a.m.
chet123 said...

ROSEBUD YOU CANT SUPPRESS THE TRUTH...SO STOP CALLING THE FREEPRESS CRYING....YOU DID WRONG AND TOLD A LOT OF LIES...TOO LATE NOW.....IF YOU REALLY BELEIVE YOU DID THE RIGHT THING...WHY ARE YOU AFRIAD?? LOL LOL....YOU KNOW THIS WAS DONE WRONGLY...FOR SOME REASON I DONT FEEL SORROW FOR YOU....YOU DID A LOT OF HATEFUL TALKING....

July 8, 2011 at 11:19 a.m.
chet123 said...

FEDUP350..MAYBE A MORON!...BUT I'M A EINSTEIN COMPARED TO YOU,FEDUP

July 8, 2011 at 11:23 a.m.
fedup350 said...

The Caps Lock button Chet, the Caps Lock....jeez

July 8, 2011 at 11:26 a.m.
chet123 said...

StrongI HAVE A QUESTION...WHY ARE YOU AFRAID OF HAVING SOMEONE OVER THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS THAT NOT YOUR FRIEND...SOMEONE NUETRAL...SOMEONE WHO IS DETACHED FROM POLITICAL INFLUENCE...WHY ARE YOU AFRAID OF THAT

July 8, 2011 at 11:27 a.m.
fedup350 said...

Its hard to take a self admitted moron seriously Chet. Did he really just call himself a moron?? Amazing.

July 8, 2011 at 11:28 a.m.
chet123 said...

FEDUP...SEE YOU DONT WANT TO TALK ON THE ISSUE....WE CAN TALK WITHOUT NAME CALLING....

July 8, 2011 at 11:28 a.m.
fedup350 said...

I didnt call anyone names Chet:

chet123 said... FEDUP350...IF I AM WRITING FROM THE BEND.....THEN HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE GETTING BLISTERED BY A MORON

July 8, 2011 at 11:31 a.m.
chet123 said...

I NOTICE ONE THING ABOUT THIS SUBJECT....WHEN YOU TALK ON THE ISSUE TIMBO,FEDUP,ROSEBUD...ALL RUN OFF....THEY BEEN TRYING TO CENSOR ME....SUPPRESSING MY SPEECH....I DONT KNOW WHAT THEY FEAR FROM A GUY IN THE BEND,AND CANT WRITE,hmmmmmm COULD IT BE THEY HAVE A VERY VERY WEAK ARGUMENTSHmmmmmmm do you think it is because they know what they done were wrong....its hard to defend a position when you dont have strong convictions, a solid foundation and with robust core values

July 8, 2011 at 11:39 a.m.
dao1980 said...

Hey chet, do you want some strong stinky cheese to go with that funky lingering whine?

July 8, 2011 at 11:43 a.m.
fedup350 said...

Happy days, Chet found the Caps Lock button, or maybe he hit it by accident..either way..Happy Days

July 8, 2011 at 11:44 a.m.
chet123 said...

THANK YOU TIMES-FREE-PRESS...BY ALLOWING ME TO EXPRESS MY SPEECH...YOU ARE TRULY A PROTECTOR OF THE 5TH AMENDMENT..THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU MUCH!

TIME TO EAT LUNCH!

July 8, 2011 at 11:46 a.m.
fedup350 said...

No, he must have hit it by accident, That pesky old "a" is too close to the Caps Lock Key! Bon A Petit Chet

July 8, 2011 at 11:53 a.m.
chet123 said...

FOOL YOU...KNEW YOU WOULD COME OUT WHEN YOU THOUGH I WAS GONE...SEE YOU AFRAID TO TALK ISSUE...YOU ONLY WHAT TO CALL NAMES...TO DIVERT THE SUBJECT...LLOL LOL LOL

July 8, 2011 at 11:58 a.m.
fedup350 said...

To Chet: "What you talkin' bout Willis"

July 8, 2011 at 12:02 p.m.
fedup350 said...

chet123 said... FEDUP350...IF I AM WRITING FROM THE BEND.....THEN HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE GETTING BLISTERED BY A MORON

chet123 said... FEDUP350..MAYBE A MORON!...BUT I'M A EINSTEIN COMPARED TO YOU,FEDUP

July 8, 2011 at 12:05 p.m.
chet123 said...

FEDUP...CAUGHT YOU NAME CALLING.....CANT DEFEND YOUR ARGUMENT....RHONDA THURMAN DOES THE SAME THING....DIVERTING FROM THE SUBJECT TO NAME CALL OR TO TALK ABOUT JIM SCALES....THATS NOT THE ISSUE...THE ISSUE IS THE "PROCESS THAT WAS USED".......I DONT HAVE TIME FOR THE GAME YOU PLAY BECAUSE YOU ARE LACKING SUBSTANCE..Hmmmmmm NOT BAD FOR A FORMER INNER CITY HOWARD HIGH STUDENT..LOL LOL LOL LOL

July 8, 2011 at 12:06 p.m.
eastridge8 said...

fedup350...I agree with your comments. I think EXPERIENCE far outweighs that Doctorate Jim Scales is so proud of. I, too, heard Dr.Scales say "ramshakled" when he meant "ranshaked" and I LOL! He can't fit 3 sentences together. What a DUD he was!! What an embarassment for the black community and Chattanooga!!

Congratulations to Rick Smith...

July 8, 2011 at 12:12 p.m.
fedup350 said...

I knew it Chet,,you are a product of Howard High School. Jo Ann Favors would be proud of you. Is that where you learned to type in all caps? Is that where you learned to end every incomprehensible post with "lol, lol, lol, lol"? I will never debate the issues with someone that ends every post with "lol, lol, lol, lol" It would be a complete waste of time so instead I let you call yourself names (I didnt call you a moron).

July 8, 2011 at 12:12 p.m.
chet123 said...

FEDUP..(SEE JULY 8 11:53AM COMMENT).NOW WHAT LITTLE CREDIBILITY YOU HAD JUST LEFT.....THIS IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF SOMEONE WHO WILL LIE TO YOU WITHOUT BLINKING THEIR EYES....THESE ARE RHONDA FOLLOWINGS...TO MY FELLOW POSTERS...YOU SEE THE PROBLEM THE SCHOOL SYSTEM HAVE WITH ADULT LIKE THESE LEADING THE KIDS....THANKS FRE-PRESS EVERYONE NEED TO SEE THIS EXCHANGE

July 8, 2011 at 12:15 p.m.
fedup350 said...

I hope everyone does see this exchamge Chet, because in it instead of putting anything on here that is even close to intelligent, you have called psoters on here liars, dumb butts, fools, you have called yourself a moron. Not once but you called youself a moron TWICE (and yes I used the Caps button, but for emphasis not because I dont when to to cappitalize or am too lazy to capitalize). The problem with the schools sytem is evident in your posts Chet. Yes, Oh yes, I hope everyone will see this exchange!

July 8, 2011 at 12:23 p.m.
eastridge8 said...

chet123...fedup350 didn't call you a moron...you did THAT yourself!! I looked at all the posts and only saw where you said that about yourself. What's wrong with you? Have you always been this way? Your teachers must have been elated when school was OVER and your parents must have been thrilled when you finally went to BED.

fedup350...you can't win with this guy...no point in even trying...he doesn't care about free speech for anyone but HIMSELF!!

July 8, 2011 at 12:24 p.m.
chet123 said...

EASTRIDGE...YOU ELECTED GEORGE W. BUSH FOR PRESIDENT AND GOOSE STEPPED TO EVERYTHING HE SAID AND DID...WHILE HE CHOPPED UP ENGLISH...YOU ONLY SAID ONE THING...HE GOT COMMON SENSE.HE GOT COMMON SENSE..COMMON SENSE THAT RAN THE COUNTRY IN THE GROUND LOL LOL ..THAT SEEMS TO BE YOUR REMEDY WHEN YOU CANT STACK-UP.....COMMON SENSE AND EXPERIENCE,WHICH REALLY MEAN OLD(OLD..AT HIS AGE NEVER RAN A SCHOOL SYSTEM--DIDNT TRY TO FARTHER HIS EDUCATION)....COMMON SENSE! COMMON SENSE!..MAYBE WE DESERVES SOMEONE WITH ABOVE COMMON SENSE.....

WHEN OTHER PEOPLE DONT STACK-UP THEY ARE NOT QUALIFIED....BUT WHEN YOUR FRIENDS DONT STACK-UP..YOU FILL-IN THE VOID BY SAYING COMMON SENSE...COMMON SENSE..COMMON SENSE!!..WHAT A GAME YOU PLAY!...WE CALL THAT "WORD PLAY" LOL LOL LOL

July 8, 2011 at 12:31 p.m.
amnestiUSAF84 said...

I can understand chet's concerns. When the school boards were locally controlled, all the funds were sent primarily to all white schools, while inner-city schools got the leftover crumbs if, and only if, there were leftover crumbs to be had. It was a time when white schools in Chattanooga received all the newest books, and their old books were handed down to black schools. Hopefully, Chattanooga won't sit on the sidelines and allow such a grave injustice to happen again. This wasn't 1950s or 1940s Chattanooga, but 1960s and 1970s Chattanooga. In part, this is why many of these under achieving schools continue to struggle to this day. Because of the inequalities in the past.

Dr. King once said something to the effect that "You can't keep a man down without staying down beside him." By purposely under-educating and mis-education of black and brown students, America has only accomplished in keeping all America's children down. This is why some of the poorest nations in the world out paste America's children on all levels of the educational experience.

Suggestion? Get rid of all the finger pointing. Make the primary goal to teach all the children.

To my white brothers and sisters, you made it clear in the '60s and '70s when you were chanting "2, 4, 6, 8 WE DON'T WANT TO INTERGRATE!" And many of you have gone about sabotaging the educational experience since. Unintentionally, even for white students. Why, after all these centuries, you're still so obsessed with black folks. Even as others come into your country with the sole intent of completely destroying it. You're still obsessed with having to live next door to, have your children attend school with_BLACK PEOPLE!

To my black brothers and sisters, stop talking down and demeaning your youth to anyone and everyone who will listen. They're just going to turn around and use your own words against you at some point. Where do you think the likes of Thurman have gotten her opinion about black students? From blacks who, for years, have had nothing positive to say about their youth, their communities and their race in general. You've invited the harsh ridicule of the likes of Thurman and others. Stop allowing others, who are insecure and insincere in their own skin, to have a role in mapping our your and your youth destiny. Stop looking to others for validation. You know what you need to do. Roll up your sleeves and be like NIKE______JUST DO IT!

In order for America to remain on top, its children will have to be prepared to compete with the world. That should be your immediate goal and concern. America's children, white, black and other are being cheated while you adults are shouting at one another saying nothing. You've become the laughing stock of the world with your false pretense of diversity and equality.

Get over yourselves! All of you......you AIN'T ALL THAT! Without your children as your future.

July 8, 2011 at 12:38 p.m.
chet123 said...

FEDUP...I HAVE TALKED TO YOU FOR HOURS TODAY...AND YOU STILL HAVENT MAED A CASE FOR RHONDA THURMAN NOT ALLOWING THE COUNTY TO HAVE A SERCH COMMITTEE...WHY SHE CHANGED THE CONSTITUTION/POLICIES TO MAKE A FIT FOR HER FRIEND...WHY ARE WE GOING TO NEPOTISM

JUST A FEW QUESTION...YOU EVADE THE QUESTION...THIS IS WHERE YOU BETTER HOPE THIS DONT GO TO COURT

July 8, 2011 at 12:40 p.m.
Oz said...

The vote was 5 to 3. Rhonda Thurman was 1 of 5 votes. You guys act like she had all 5 votes.

July 8, 2011 at 12:43 p.m.
fedup350 said...

amnestiUSAF84 you are right on some things. It has been made into a black and white thing and no will come out ahead in that. I like it that you called whites and blacks your brothers and sisters. You need to run for political office, no whits and black or name calling just get work educating the children.

The one thing I dont understand is how do you understand anything that Chet is trying to say?

July 8, 2011 at 12:46 p.m.
chet123 said...

AMNESTIUSAF84....SO YOU GOING TO GIVE ME A BLACK HISTORY LESSON...THAT LIKE ME GIVING A JEWISH PERSON A LESSON ON THE HOLOCAUST....I WOULDNT BE SO BRAZEN AND STUPID...YOU KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT BLACK CULTURE....WE ARE VERY DIVERSED.....MY GRANDFATHER LAID THE GROUND WORK FOR OUR FAMILY..WITH EMPHSIS OF MEN IN HOUSEHOLD...GOD AND EDUCATION..PATRIACH FAMILY..,,,YOU DONT UNDERSTAND BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALREADY PREJUDGED....YOU ARE WASTING TIME WITH ALL THOSE PARAGRAPHS YOU JUST WROTE....SO STAY ON THE SUBJECT....I HAVE LOTS OF WHITE FRIENDS AND WHITE RELATIVES WHO WILL BACK ME....MANY BLACK AND WHITE SHARE FAMILIES....YOU ARE AN OLD MAN LIVING IN THE PAST YOU MISS SO DEARLY. SO WITH ALL DUE RESPECT SIR,I DONT NEED A LECTURE FROM YOU...MAKE CORRECTION IN YOUR OWN NARROW MINDED THINKING. THIS IS WHAT GET RHONDA THURMAN IN TROUBLE...THIS IS WHY THE POLICY REQUIRED AN WELL EDUCATION PERSON...WHEN ARE NOT DEALING WITH THE SALE OF CHICKEN FEED BUT THE EDUCATION OF OUR CHILDREN. ITS NOT SUPPOSE TO BE ABOUT "BOSS HOG" OR GOOD OLE BOYS" PADDY EACH OTHER ON THE BACK AND CHEERING ON THEIR BUDDIES...THIS IS THE FUTURE OF OUR CHILDREN AND THE FUTURE OF AMERICA...

NOW TO GET TO THE POINT,THE ISSUE INVOLVES THE PROCESS THE BOARD USED TO PLACE RICK SMITH(WHO DONT HAVE A PHD)AS SUPERINTENDENT...NOW REPEAT AFTER ME "THE ISSUE INVOLVES THE PROCESS THE SCHOOL BAORD USE TO PLACE RICK SMITH AS SUPERINTENDENT...SAY IT AGAIN..."THE PROCESS"..."THE PROCESS"..."THE PROCESS"

July 8, 2011 at 1:08 p.m.
fedup350 said...

amnestiUSAF84 see what I mean about Chet? Chet, no one on here will every take you seriously. You really need to change your approach. I had some fun with you today just bcause it was so easy. But I am going to have to ignore you in the future because you really just are not coherent enough to debate with. So this it it, its been fun but the party is over. I got to get off of here and go to WORK. What about you???

July 8, 2011 at 1:28 p.m.
timbo said...

PhD's mean nothing in business and very little in government. I'm in the chemical business, 97% of chemical patents are done by BS and MS chemists. To get a PhD takes long time and a mindset that doesn't lend itself to creative thinking or leadership. Large companies are very seldom run by PhDs. Walmart, Microsoft, Facebook,etc, etc. all started with college dropouts.

Scales was a poor leader. That is why he is gone. He aligned himself with the same bunch Register did and now he is gone, just like Register. This proves it was not about race. How many Phd presidents? Governors? Mayors? CEO's ? Not any.
The school system needs to be run by an executive with a business-like organization which delivers it's product. That product is education. If Register and Scales had gotten results, the new regime would have never been able to win. Try and be logical not emotional.

July 8, 2011 at 1:35 p.m.
amnestiUSAF84 said...

chet123, you're so busy fighting everyone that you don't seem to get it when someone is siding with you. Remember, there were many whites who died alongside many blacks who fought against the injustices committed against blacks. In fact, during the Civil Rights Movement many blacks were against Dr. King, Rosa Parks, Mega Evers. Many southern black clergy labeled Dr. King a rebel rouser and troublemaker, who was stirring up trouble and the sensibilities of segregationists whites. Many whites lost their lives, homes, livlihood, jobs and families when segregationist whites set them up to be caught on camera in "compromising" situations.

Only when those blacks who were originally against the likes of Dr. King, Rosa Parks, Mega Evers saw they had the support of whites did they jump on the side of the Civil Rights Movement as if they'd been there all along.

The struggle for equality and doing what's right came in many shades. Of course, with your historical knowledge, you're already aware of that, right?

Those whites who fought on the side of Civil Rights during those troubling times would be referred to as the hated white liberals in today's American society.

Get over yourself, man! We "progressives", as we're often referred to by remnant segregationist(AKA "conservatives} want all of Chattanooga's children to learn and be able to compete on a global level. That includes "red and yellow black and white. They are precious in HIS sight. Jesus love the little children of the worrrrllllld!!"---I know you remember that childhood song.

July 8, 2011 at 1:41 p.m.
chet123 said...

ROSEBUD IN RESPONSE TO YOUR 10:47AM POST...SINCE YOU ARE SO SMART....NOTICE YOU FAILED TO MENTION THESE ITEMS:

NO ...WOULDNT ALLOW THE BOARD TO FORM ONE SEARCH COMMITTEE

RICK SMITH SHOLUD BE A MIDDLE SCHOOL TEACHER

NEPOTISM

DISRESPECTED THE CONSTITUTION

SEE YOU LOVE TO TEAR DOWN PEOPLE..THAT WHY RICK SMITH AND RHONDA THURMAN..WILL GET NO MERCY FROM ME.I DONT BLAME CHIP BAKER...HE DIDNT WANT RHONDA THURMAN TO ATTACK HIS FAMILY....ITS HARD TO GO AGAINST HER IF YOU ARE WHITE...SHE WILL TURN YOUR WHOLE COMMUNITY AND WHITE RACE AGAINST YOU WITH HER LIES...I HAVE SEEN HER IN ACTION FOR 13 YEARS...

THE PROCESS WAS ILLEGAL.....YOU TALKING ABOUT THE VOTED...THERE WAS NOONE ELSE PRESENTED....I LIKE THE WAY YOU JUST CIRCUMVENT AND WE ARE VOTING FOR RICK SMITH....LOL LOL LOL

CAN YOU SEE HOW MANY STEPS YOU SKIPPED....

YOU JUST CIRCUMVENT A NUMBERS OF STEP...JUST SKIPPED OVER THEM...AND YOU VOTING FOR RICK SMITH...

THIS MATTER WILL GO TO COURT!!

July 8, 2011 at 1:43 p.m.
amnestiUSAF84 said...

timbo said... "Scales was a poor leader. That is why he is gone"


I disagree. Scales efforts were sabotaged from the moment he was hired. There's a level of Chattanoogans that remain in the darker ages of the city's history. They've run off every superindent prior to Scales who wasn't local, and will continue to sabotage anyone brought in from the outside. They're a backwoods backward, regressive bunch who cares nothing about the education of Chattanoogan's children. They are selfish and self-centered.

July 8, 2011 at 1:46 p.m.
chet123 said...

SORRY..AMNESTIUSAF84....IT USUALLY 20 AGAINST 1 IN HERE....SODDY DAISY HAVE SOUND THE ALARM...THEY ALL ARE 1ST COUSIN....I'M SO SORRY AMNESTIUSAF84!!!!

THIS DONT MEAN YOU..TIMBO FEDUP ROSEBUD(RHONDA THURMAN)EASTRIDGE AND THE REST OF SODDY

July 8, 2011 at 1:50 p.m.
amnestiUSAF84 said...

No need for apologizing, chet123. I've seen how some who post here run in packs. That's the only way they know how to attack. Without one another as crutches to lean on, they're weak. They're running in a group, making the same noise is their only weapon. Individually, they have no influence. Their rants and rhetoric starts to sound like screeching banshee with not purpose, principles or values.

July 8, 2011 at 1:55 p.m.
chet123 said...

TIMBO..AND ROSEBUD SEEKING POSITIONS...THIS IS THE WAY THEY OPERATES...WITH LIES....RICK SMITH WILL NEVER BE RESPECTED BECAUSE HE CONSPIRED WITH THIS MUCH...THEY DIDNT EXPECT THERE WOULD BE SUCH A PUSH-BACK....IF YOU THINK I'M MAD....TRY TALKING TO THE BLACK TEACHERS,PARENT.,PRINCIPALS AND COMMUNITIES BLACK AND WHITE COMUNITIES IN CHATTANOOGA..THEY ARE SIZZLING MAD...WE FOUGHT AND DIED TO REMOVE THIS TYPE CRONYISM....AND THEY ARE REGROUPING NOW...THEY ARE TRIED OF RHONDA THURMAN BULLYING THEM AROUND...SPEAKING WITH SHARP HATEFUL LANGUAGE...SOMEBODY FROM SODDY MAYBE HER PREACHER OR CHURCH DEACONS BETTER PUT A SOCK IN HER MOUTH SINCE SHE DONT HAVE SENSE ENOUGH TO KNOW WHAT TO SAY AND WHAT NOT TO SAY(ITS CALLED WISDOM..SHE TALK LIKE A FOOL) YOU THINK SHE WOULD BE LOW KEY AND HUMBLE WITH HER MINIMUN AMOUNT OF EDUCATION.(A FOOL HAVE NO SHAME)

July 8, 2011 at 2:07 p.m.
chet123 said...

THEY TRY TO STAY AWAY FROM THE ISSUE...AND WILL INJECT NAME CALLING..THIS BUNCH IS LIKE THUGS....ROSEBUD IS A MASTER AT IT SOMETIMES I BELEIVE ITS RHONDA THURMAN...ROSEBUD GOT SO MAD AT ME THAT SHE ERRONEOUSLY DISCLOSED SOME "CONFIDENTIAL" INFORMATION ABOUT A "PRINCIPAL" THAT ONLY A BOARD MEMBER OR FRONT OFFICE ADMINISTRATOR WOULD KNOW...THAT WHOLE GROUP NEED TO BE INVESTIGATED.....

July 8, 2011 at 2:13 p.m.
chet123 said...

THEY KNOW I'M HERER....THEY ARE IN HIDING....I TRICKED THEM EARLIER SAID I WAS GOING TO LUNCH AND THEY CAME OUT....BASHING ME...THE FUNNY PART IS THAT I WAS WATCHING THEM LOL LOL IT WAS SOME FUNNY......

THEY CANT DEFEND THEIR OPPSITION...IF WHEY CANT TAKE MY HEAT...JUST THINK WHAT A PRIME LAWYER WILL DO TO THEM LOL LOL NOW THATS FUNNY

July 8, 2011 at 2:27 p.m.
rosebud said...

In the midst of all the race card/prejudice talk: let's see. Dr. Scales got "run off" because he was black? OK. So...was he black when he got hired 5 years ago? Does that mean he got hired because he was black?

July 8, 2011 at 3:11 p.m.
ranger1 said...

mr. smith is a good man maybe now we can get the schools back in shape also get everyone one inhouse

July 8, 2011 at 3:51 p.m.
Mule said...

Sunday morning over breakfast I got to enjoy a front page hatchet job of Rhonda Thurman and anyone who agrees that the good ole boy network that has ruled the school system with an iron fist for a number of years now. Yesterday afternoon Andre Mcgary spent 3 hours ripping on Rhonda. Today I wake up to Styles & co. continuing the attack, and adding Tim into the mix. It seems as though those with progressive mindsets are in such deep morning over the passing of the reign of the progressive cabal once led by Jesse Register, Chip Baker, The PEF, Davis Lundy and the rest of the high minded elitists. This group once "made it rain" with taxpayer dollars. But it appears that once a hairdresser from Soddy Daisy pointed their doings out clearly, the taxpayers said "enough." So all that is left now is for the progressive standard bearers to cry racism, a return to Jim Crow, and cry that ignorant rednecks now hold the reigns once held by such progressive, big spending superstars as Jesse Register. The only problem is that as usual, ya'll will have to bury the facts before you wave your banners. Did a hairdresser from Soddy bring down this brain trust by herself? We've heard all the claims of her ignorance. Could she be that ignorant & this devious at the same time? She told the truth & once the public heard it, they said "Enough." Sorry boys.

As for Tim's conversation with that caricature of a politician, Jo Ann Favors, it had nothing to do with defending Rhonda. She seems to do pretty well at that herself. It had to do with her derogatory comments toward Soddy Daisy. Tim pointed out that he & lots of others in Soddy had much more education and ability to present their thoughts clearly than she did. And the rest of them were mostly high school educated, work a day people who deserved every bit as much respect as the folks in Ms Favors' district. At this point she proclaimed to have friends in Soddy Daisy. When Tim asked her if she could name 2 she mumbled a little & waddled off. Sorry again boys.

The truth will set you free, after you wipe the tears away.

July 8, 2011 at 4:29 p.m.
timbo said...

amnestiUSAF84 Again, you don't think it's appropriate to say anything bad about black culture but you and the rest of the people who ageee with you constantly use derogatory words describing Rhonda and her supporters. You said, " They've run off every superindent prior to Scales who wasn't local, and will continue to sabotage anyone brought in from the outside." By the way, how did Rhonda with her one vote until two years ago, sabotage anyone. Register was given the road by his so-called supporters. They were the enlightened progressive crowd. You said, "They're a backwoods backward, regressive bunch who cares nothing about the education of Chattanoogan's children. They are selfish and self-centered."

There you go again, using those words on your opponents. I think that Abraham Lincoln was from the backwoods, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagon, Richard Nixon was poor, are they all as "backward" as you say we are? By the way, I care about the education of the children of District 1 also. Soddy-Daisy High has the best test scores and the least per pupil spending. I guess progressives don't really believe in equality do they?

How many murders have there been in North end of the county in the last 3 years. ZERO There are a lot of poor people in the "backwoods" but they aren't killing each other like the black population in the inner city. That is a fact.

How many gang bangers and armed robberies have their been in the projects? A quote from the TFP says it all. " An increase in robberies and burglaries has pushed Chattanooga’s crime rate higher than that of two of the most dangerous cities in America — Detroit and Atlanta." That says it all. Soddy-Daisy has very little crime.

I would rather be a backwoods, redneck, hillbilly, "regressive" any day than a so-called progressive (socialist)like you.

Maybe some of your gang banger friends should emulate some of us backwoods types since we make better grades than you and don't murder one another in the streets.

July 8, 2011 at 4:42 p.m.
01centare said...

"There are a lot of poor people in the "backwoods"


timbo, that's because they're too busy cooking that meth and picking those scabs from their skin?

I'm not picking sides, but when has Rhonda and her followers ever said anything positive or constructive about the black community? Rhonda and her gang must sit around daily obsessing with black people. Why? We all know there are things, bad things, that go on in many of those county neighborhoods that rarel if ever makes the news. Unless, it's something so gruesome and hideous that it can't be covered up.

Does inner-city Chattanooga has its problems? Of course it does. But that's primarily due to outsiders, and even some insiders, exploiting their situation for selfish gain.

Others have gone into these inner-city communities and proceeded to decimate them to a point that it will take decades, perhaps centuries, for them to return to some sense of normalcy. This would especially include law enforcement tactics used throughout the years in these communities. They've been allowed to do things that would have never been tolerated from day one in white middle classed suburbia.

July 8, 2011 at 4:51 p.m.
fedup350 said...

Well said Timbo!! Mule, I loved that story. The more Jo Ann Favors speaks the more unintelligent everyone realizes she is. amnestiUSAF84, you are living in the past, what happens when you and those your age pass on? The young blacks certainly wont be able to carry on. They only know that they get out of school on MLK Day. Sad but true. The racism from the Jim Crow laws from the 1960's is over. The reverse racism from affirmitive action is in its last stages. People like Jo Ann Favors are doing more to keep racism alive than anyone from Soddy Daisy ever has.

July 8, 2011 at 5 p.m.
01centare said...

. The racism from the Jim Crow laws from the 1960's is over. The reverse racism from affirmitive action

I disagree, fedup350. Jim Crow laws no longer openly exist, but they're still practiced, if only in theory.

As for Affirmative Action goes, it's been the birth right of whites for centuries, for simply being born white in America. Whatever blacks have received afterwards is like those old hand-me-down school books INTUSAF84 spoke of. The leftovers after whites have had all the good pickings.

No, I'm not black either. Does that surprise you that someone who is not black doesn't agree with you?

psst! There remain areas of Chattanooga where my black friends best not be caught walking around after dark. Lest they risk someone calling the police on them. Even in the racially mixed neighborhoods they've lived in for decades. JIM CROW?

July 8, 2011 at 5:11 p.m.

See what happens when you politicize education? Name-calling, racism, petty resentment, turf wars over tax money, etc.

Until local citizens (including elected officials) begin caring more about reading (themselves and with their children) than they do about keeping themselves and their children entertained, or spending most of their time at ballgames or shopping malls, no politically-appointed superintendent will be able improve our schools.

No serious reading = poor, dumb hillbillies and poor, dumb gangstas who can neither get good jobs, nor get along. Log off and pick up a book. I dare you.

July 8, 2011 at 5:17 p.m.
timbo said...

01centare Your said,"that's because they're too busy cooking that meth and picking those scabs from their skin?" That was really dumb, sounds like you have had some experience picking scabs.

"I'm not picking sides, but when has Rhonda and her followers ever said anything positive or constructive about the black community? Rhonda and her gang must sit around daily obsessing with black people. Why? We all know there are things, bad things, that go on in many of those county neighborhoods that rarel if ever makes the news. Unless, it's something so gruesome and hideous that it can't be covered up."

Are you really that naive? We don't give a tinkers damn what blacks do until a big mouth like JoAnne Favors tells a bunch of lies. Your not picking sides, bull****. Not only are you naive, your a liar.

You said that black people aren't "safe" in some neighborhoods. Well I tell you what, I will get a carload of my redneck friends to follow me in the "gangsta" and see how long it takes for me to get robbed or shot at. There is nowhere in Soddy-Daisy that a black person would even be noticed much less attacked.

Think of something a little more logical to say.

I grew up in Soddy-Daisy and don't cook meth. My daughter that is in vet school at UT doesn't cook meth. As a matter of fact I don't know one person who cooks meth.

We won,you lost, it's that simple.

July 8, 2011 at 7:32 p.m.
SeaMonkey said...

let favors speak......what a donkey.

two words, ms. favors...fredrick douglass

whether it's jesse register, jim scales or rick smith.....it doesn't matter.....superintendents and principles are just taking up space. they have nothing to do with actual learning..nothing... teachers unions run the show in the public schools. see the scandal in atlanta? its that way nation wide......

July 8, 2011 at 7:45 p.m.
01centare said...

Are you really that naive? We don't give a tinkers damn what blacks do until a big mouth like JoAnne Favors tells a bunch of lies. Your not picking sides, bull****. Not only are you naive, your a liar.

Back at ya' timbo. You're the one that's a liar. You, Thurman and the klan seem to eat, sleep and p*ssout black people day and night. You're obsession with black people is eerily unnatural, .

Thurman shouldn't be called "out of control." She and her klan take that reference as the highest form of honor. Thurman is more like the pouty, irresponsible child who hasn't learned restraints, decorum, self-control and limits. She's like the neighborhood kid the rest of you could count to convince to throw the rock through the neighbor's window. Then the rest of you hightail it out of there leaving her to face the punishment. Thurman is an embarassment.

People in such positions as hers should have the wisdom to be responsible with their words. Otherwise, they're no better, and a lot worst, than the ones who inspire the likes of the Arizonian s, Jared Lee Loughner. Then they hide only to return and pretend they're all shocked by his actions.

Words are powerful. When you place people with some level of power behind irresponsible words, those words become even more powerful and, therefore, more dangerous.

Stick around you might just learn something. My five year old is more responsible with his words than Thurman is.

July 8, 2011 at 7:54 p.m.
fedup350 said...

01centare, there are even more areas around Chattanooga where white people need not be caught walking around after dark, and guess what, psssst, there is no need to whisper. It is very well known where whites wont go after dark, is that fair? Listen to this and listen good 01centare racsim is racism whether it is Jim Crow laws or affirmitive action. Both pick one race over the other. Both breed resentment and hatred. Black people dont owe whites nothing and whites owe blacks nothing. Let each man be judged on his deeds and character..hmmm, wonder who said that? Oh, 01centare You're obsession with black people is eerily unnatural,

July 8, 2011 at 8:19 p.m.
01centare said...

fedup350, now you're starting to rambling and make like as crazy as you know who. You're trying to compare apples with pineapples. One may include the name of the other, but they're two distinctively different types of fruit.

Surely, you can come up with something better.

BTW-your ignorance is deeply showing when you try to compare Jim Crow to affirmative action as you and others try to reference AA to blacks. I never saw anyone swinging by their neck from a tree or a bridge rafter because of affirmative action. Nor was anyone every chased by a mob and sheriff led posse under AA. Get a grip! You're slipping.

July 8, 2011 at 8:32 p.m.
fedup350 said...

No, it is you who are rambling, racism is racism plain and simple, picking one race over the other is racism. It is your ignorance that is showing. Put your money where your mouth is, move to East CHattanooga or Alton Park. You sit safe and sound in your white suburban neighborhood (and there is nothing wrong with that) but you act like you know what black people have gone through, Give me a break! Please tell me when the last time was that YOU saw someone swinging from a tree? TV? Get up off your smug little white butt and go to the hood. I go every day. You are the typical white liberal whose is so naive that when reality does come crashing down on you it will shock your system beyond repair.

Thank you Joe Ann Favors for pitting the whites against the blacks, typical race mongering to make a living.

July 8, 2011 at 8:48 p.m.
Oz said...

Mule is 100% correct.

July 8, 2011 at 9:09 p.m.
timbo said...

I just noticed something, every time I say Chet123 into my voice typing it comes out s*** . Try it's the strangest thing. Talk into your Droid. Even the cellphone gods know what Chet123 is full of.

July 8, 2011 at 9:44 p.m.
brokentoe said...

Thank you Joe Ann Favors for pitting the whites against the blacks

Blaming Ms. Favors for calling Thurman out is like blaming the molested child who was finally brave enough to stand up to his/her molester.

July 8, 2011 at 10:38 p.m.
teach_them_all said...

seamonkey - FYI - Georgia does not recognize teachers' "unions".

July 9, 2011 at 2:13 a.m.
Selah said...

Brokentoe...enough said!!!

July 9, 2011 at 2:40 a.m.
Selah said...

Brokentoe...one of the most sensible statements made in this whole exchange.

July 9, 2011 at 2:42 a.m.
01centare said...

I can't see how any of Thurman's staunch supporters hasn't noticed that the woman isn't wrapped too tight. She appears quite unstable and possibly teetering on the edege, if not over the edge, of insanity.

I tend to believe those people using her, but hiding behind her and remaining in the dark and silent, will dump her like two week old garbage should the bleep hit the fan.

July 9, 2011 at 9:14 a.m.
Legend said...

Thurman is like the little petulant child who holds her breath until she turns blue and passes out. She is to be pitied. It's the culprits hiding behind her and egging her on that concerned, forward thinking Chattnoogans should be disturbed about and seek to expose.

They are the ones you've allowed to come into inner-city schools pretending to volunteer, yet hold inner-city students in the highest disdain. They're just sizing you up for their next brow-beating discussion. They maybe the teacher teaching at these schools who has only disdain for the students they teach. They are the police officers who live in the county, but patrol these poor communities and are resource offcers at the schools. They are all friends and neighbors who support one another's antiquated goals. Who sit around in their groups on a regular basis egging the likes of Thurman on and on. So when a citizen in these neighborhoods or a child in the schools get tasered or beaten up by one of these individuals, they've been egged on by their group thinking.

July 9, 2011 at 10:29 a.m.
chet123 said...

JERRY ASCHEW(SPORT TALK 102.3FM IS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE CHEERING RHONDA THURMAN ON...HE REALLY SUPPRISED ME...JERRY LET THE TRUE JERRY OUT OF THE BAG....SHAME ON YOU JERRY...

July 9, 2011 at 2:26 p.m.
01centare said...

chet123, Thurman is like the kid who was never properly potty trained. Who continues to bleep her pants while all her diehard supporters clap, laugh and pretend they don't smell the stench.

July 9, 2011 at 4:12 p.m.
Mule said...

Hey Centaire, should I assume that yo are proud of the job Favors has done of upholding your side of this or any other argument?

July 11, 2011 at 8:22 a.m.
Mule said...

The problem for all of you with the higher mindsets is that your opinions bear up poorly when compared to the facts. Jesse's R.'s posse said more money is what it will take. So more money was spent, lots more. Results still stunk the place up. So now we are told that even more money should have been spent & all who disagree are racist, Jim Crow law supporters. But all 'em ignorant rednecks in Soddy Daisy High still outperform the rest of the county, even though their money was cut. This is where I begin to have trouble with this line of reasoning. Can one of you high minded leftists help clear me up?

July 11, 2011 at 8:30 a.m.
Selah said...

I have seen the system not work for families and students. There is no penalties for parents who don't make their children attend school. There is no penalty for parents who neglect their children. I am not sure if it is just TENNESSEE or what. But the juvenile crts do not hold parents accountable...DCS has to live with the Tennessee mantra that "families need to stay intact"...I say no they do not if you aren't doing your job.

Why isn't the system cutting benefits or making the families pay child support or fines for DESTROYING their children's lives. Where is the accountability for parents??? Could it be that we really don't want things to change. We just want certain people to stay were they are...at the bottom. Pulling yourself up by your bootstraps is never really true for the ones who vocalize it strongly.

July 12, 2011 at 11:30 p.m.
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