published Thursday, June 23rd, 2011

5 at 10: Draft love, Braves' roll, college football's good guys

Let's get to it. From the "7-Up Stinks Studios," here we go...



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    Michigan's Chris Webber is congratulated by NBA commissinor David Stern after being selected as the NBA's No. 1 draftee in the 1993 NBA Draft at the Palace in Auburn Hills, Mich., Wednesday night June 30, 1993. Webber was drafted by Orlando, then traded to Golden State. (AP Photo/Lennox McLendon)

NBA Draft options

The 5-at-10 loves the draft. You know this.

It appears that there could be a bunch of trades tonight at the NBA draft, which would improve the action of tonight's festivities, which is short on star-power and long on buzz words like "length" and "potential" and "athleticism."

After Duke point guard Kyrie Irving and Arizona stud forward Derrick Williams, it's anyone's guess who will pick whom. That's a cool part of the draft — we love the draft, by the way — except when you don't know any of the other players for the most part and a lot their highlights (read: for the foreign players) look like they were shot in pick-up games at the North River Y.

Anyhoo, that's why we have embraced “The Chas9 Feeling the Draft Free-for-All.” The object is to pick which conference/group (SEC, ACC, Pac10, Big Ten, Big 12, Big East, All other colleges, All other countries) will have the most first-round picks. The first tie-breaker is the best suit of all the first-round picks (as determined by the 5-at-10). The second tie-breaker is the worst suit of all the first-round picks (as determined by the 5-at-10). We'll update with more entries later today — and as always we're trying to get some of the area sports personalities to play along, too.

EC:

Most Drafted — Prestige World Wide (OCU)

Best Suit — Brandon Knight

Worst Suit — The Morris Brothers

CelticVol:

Most Drafted — Big East

Best Suit — Kemba Walker

Worst Suit — Enes Kanter

McPell:

Most drafted — Big 12

Best Suit — Jordan Thompson TX

Worst Suit — Brandon Knight (I really wanted Al Davis for this but wrong sport)

Chas9:

Most drafted — OCU (Other Country University)

Best suit — Kyrie Irving

Worst suit — Jimmer Fredette

Oso:

Most drafted — Big 12

Best suit — Kemba Walker

Worst suit — UT player(s)

BIspy:

Most drafted — Big East

Best suit — Derrick Williams

Worst suit — Enes Kanter

5-at-10:

Most drafted — OCU (Other Country University)

Best suit — Jimmer Fredette

Worst suit — Kenneth Faried

Mrs. 5-at-10:

Most drafted — Other conferences

Best suit — Kyrie Irving

Worst suit — Enes Kanter

Weena:

Most drafted — SEC

Best suit — Jimmer Fredette

Worst suit — 5-at-10

OTwatcher:

Most drafted — ACC

Best suit — Kyle Singler

Worst suit — Enes Kanter

ThatIDoKnow:

Most drafted — Big 12

Best suit — Derrick Williams

Worst suit —I. Shumpert

scole023:

Most drafted — OCU

Best suit — Brandon Knight (or anyone who shops with ghjbbmm — they have perfect quality, small orders accpeted and 100 % safe door to door delivery)

Worst suit —VAN GUNDY





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    Atlanta Braves' Dan Uggla scores in front of Toronto Blue Jays catcher Jose Molina during the third inning of an interleague baseball game, Tuesday, June 21, 2011, in Atlanta. (AP Photo/John Amis)

Braves keep rolling

Sweet Memories of Spahn and Sain and Pray for Rain*, the Atlanta Braves completed a three-game sweep of Toronto, and it's hard to imagine the pitching being better. In the three games, the Braves allowed two runs and 13 hits — total (and Dan Uggla was playing for the Braves).

Seriously, Danny Uggla homered in Wednesday's 5-1 win. Yes, it was a one-handed job that would not be described as a text-book swing. Yes, he looked like he may have been fooled and still muscled it out. But yes, a home run still counts as a hit, and any hit is a great hit for Struggla. (That said, EC was spot on this week about his uniform. With as much money as the Braves rake in, you'd think they would be able to get a jersey that fit for all the players. That No. 26 of Uggla is a balled-up knot in the front from being a halter top. So it goes.)

Truthfully, as bad as the struggles have been, it appears Uggla is handling it better than anyone could have imagined. "You want to put up great numbers every year," Uggla told the AP after Wednesday's win. "But I'm past that point. I want to win championships. We've got what it takes in this clubhouse."

He's right, too, they do have what it takes — elite pitching. Consider this: The Braves' pitching dominated Toronto and two of the starters — Brandon Beachy and Mike Minor — in this series were not among the expected stalwarts of this rotation. Nice.

*Sidenote/explanation: During the 1940s the Braves rotation had two stars — Warren Spahn and Johnny Sain — and it fell of dramatically after that. Well, some wiseacorn sports writer described the Braves pitchers this way: “First we’ll use Spahn, then we’ll use Sain, Then an off day, followed by rain. Back will come Spahn, followed by Sain, And followed, we hope, by two days of rain.” It was eventually shortened to "Spahn and Sain and pray for rain." Now you know.



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    Staff Photo by Angela Lewis University of North Carolina fans Trip and Cole Butler clap with the band before the NCAA game against Purdue at McKenzie Arena on Monday. The boys will travel with their father, Bo Butler, to Memphis to see the men's team play in the NCAA game.

College football's highs and lows

It's hard not to dwell on the negativity around college football right now.

UNC was delivered its Notice of Allegations that included nine major violations, most of which were against former assistant coach John Blake, who was moonlighting for a sports agents firm while coaching college football. (We're not NCAA rule experts, but something seems a little fishy there, right?)

That said, UNC avoided the dreaded "Lack of Institutional Control" charge mainly because there does not appear to be a clear link between Blake's shenanigans and head coach Butch Davis. (Valuable lesson for all head coaches — if you feel the need to cheat, just don't; if you can't resist the urge to cheat, insulate yourself with the cloak of plausible deniability. Shall we call this the "Davis directive" or the "Tressel theory" in the future?)

The hand-wringing has jumped by "Knuckle Cracking" and has reached "Fully Chapped." But with Boise State and Tennessee awaiting their NCAA penalties, THE Ohio State awaiting its day in NCAA court and UNC looking at its next step, let's look at the select few that are still sporting a pretty impressive track record.

The Wall Street Journal reported this week that there are only four major-conference athletic programs that have never been found guilty of a major violation in any sport since the NCAA began tracking rule violations in 1953. Without digging on the InterWebs, can you name the four? (Here's a hint — all four of them played in a bowl game last year. Here's another hint — Auburn is not one of them. Answer to be posted at 2 p.m., unless someone gets it before then.)



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    Connecticut players from left, Benjamin Stewart, Tyler Olander, Kyle Bailey and Kemba Walker celebrate after beating Butler 53-41 at the men's NCAA Final Four college basketball championship game Monday, April 4, 2011, in Houston.(AP Photo/Mark Humphrey)

This and that

— We love the draft. You know this. Oso loves Kemba Walker. We all know this. That said, if you were outside of the first three picks and Walker, who almost single-handedly carried UConn to the NCAA title, was still on the board, wouldn't you have to take him. Yes, there are some worries about his measurables (he's a little short) and 'tweener concerns (he's a shooting guard in a point guard's body), but dude can play. Period. And that should count for something.

— Anybody else watching the College World Series? Two 5-at-10 observations: One, we followed the Auburn baseball out there in 1994 during our second junior year, and it's an awesome trip. And the new stadium looks even more awesome in its awesomeness. Two, we're enjoying the renewed focus on pitching and defense in the college game now that the super-charged aluminum bats have been dialed back. Good times.

— North Alabama coach Terry Bowden has added Janoris Jenkins to the UNA roster. Yes, that Janoris Jenkins, who was an All-SEC cornerback at Florida before being dismissed by new coach Will Muschamp. Boom, indeed.

— We're planning on making our regular Thursday appearance on "The Show" with Chris Goforth on 1370 AM today around 2 p.m. We're also trying to work our schedule to get to Big River for ESPN 105.1's Nick Bonsanto's location show from 3 to 6 p.m. today to celebrate his anniversary.



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    Auburn quarterback Cam Newton laughs as he drops back to throw as he runs a drill at the NFL football scouting combine in Indianapolis, Sunday, Feb. 27, 2011. (AP Photo/Michael Conroy)

Today's question

Speaking of sport talk radio, the 102.3 FM SportTalk guys — friend of the show all — were debating the biggest one-season stud in college football history Wednesday. Dr. B — he's a doctor, after all — started the conversation with Cam Newton, and then went from there. Add Herschel in 1980. Add Bo in 1985. Who else you got? Tebow? Andre Ware? Barry Sanders? Bring it.

Until tomorrow and remember the mailbag.

about Jay Greeson...

Jay was named the Sports Editor of the Times Free Press in 2003 and started with the newspaper in May 2002 as the Deputy Sports Editor. He was born and raised in Smyrna, Ga., and graduated from Auburn University before starting his newspaper career in 1997 with the Newnan (Ga.) Times Herald. Stops in Clayton and Henry counties in Georgia and two years as the Sports Editor of the Marietta (Ga.) Daily Journal preceded Jay’s ...

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patrickd said...

Neither Bo Jackson or Herschel Walker (though Georgia tried) touched the ball every single down. To compare their studhood to someone who is only great, while also having more than a touch of right place - right time, is deserving of the Bo Jackson beat-down you'd deservingly get if Bo ever heard you say such a thing.

To answer your question, Bo Jackson is the biggest one-season, or any number season you choose to come up with, stud in college football history.

June 23, 2011 at 10:12 a.m.
BIspy4 said...

I think today's 5 at 10 has a lot of upside. Sorry I missed yesterday. Beach day.

June 23, 2011 at 10:16 a.m.
jgreeson said...

PDavi —

See your point, but Cam had the best single season ever.

And the only tragedy is that the fans of EA Sports College football will not get the full effect of Cam's talents on the game this fall. (He would have been on par with Tecmo Bowl Bo for crting out loud.)

For the love of Iron Bowl trash talk, Nick Saban said Auburn was a four-win team without Cam, and while that was probably a stretch, how much of stretch is debatable.

BIspy4 —

Tons of updside here today — with a ceiling that could be through the roof. (What did we just say? Somebody get Hubie Brown on the phone, stat.)

— 5-at-10

June 23, 2011 at 10:29 a.m.
patrickd said...

You can make an argument that Cam Newton's season at Auburn wasn't even the best one-year by a player in the last decade, let alone all-time. If my memory serves me correct, Blinn College may have a claim here. They had a stud QB in '09.

June 23, 2011 at 10:39 a.m.
Eustice_Chase said...

...im siding with Tebow...This guy put up un heard of numbers...accounted for more TDs than most FBS schools...was the biggest cheerleader on the team...motivated all of his teamates to be better faster stronger...and lets not forget he looks great in a T-Shirt...does anybody remember the FSU game ??? where he looked more like a War vet than a football player??? this guy was money in the bank...he was ridiculous good..." He played to win the game " If i have the number four pick...like the cavs do... IM taking Kemba Walker...mainly because my number one is D.Williams..and I have B-Davis back home getting ready to ally-oop another College Stud... but yes...Im taking a proven player in Kemba Walker...Kyrie Irving will be in the same Convo as Jimmer in a few years....the convo being...the biggest flop in the 2011 NBA draft?? Jimmer or Kyrie????

June 23, 2011 at 11:33 a.m.
patrickd said...

If it's a question between Tebow and Cam, I think we should let them tell us who's the best, in their own words.

Tebow: http://bit.ly/14Mpj4

Cam: http://bit.ly/mODFOY

June 23, 2011 at 11:47 a.m.
Eustice_Chase said...

HAHAHAHAHAHA perfect!!!

June 23, 2011 at 12:22 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

Nickel, Some of your guys had other good to great seasons but were overshadowed by their singular season of awesome awesomeness. Herschel's next two years weren't bad either and Bo had good seasons while he split carries. In the Wishbone. (I mean, nothing against the great rocket scientist Brent Fullwood, a fine running back in his own right. But come on). Methinks if Pryor pulls his name out of the NFL supplemental draft (insert doesn't want the pay cut joke here), the next words you hear are, "And Terry Bowden wants to talk this third down play over with Terrelle Pryor. Timeout on the field. We'll be back after these messages." Any truth they're gonna change their nickname to the Baggage?

June 23, 2011 at 12:23 p.m.
bigbearzzz said...

I'm prolly gonna get stoned for saying his name but its a name worthy of this conversation. Say what you will about him, cheater, liar, what not, but when it comes down to just pure talent in one year....Reggie Bush was a human highlight reel. I rememebr watching ESPN in anticipation just to see what Bush did the night before. Grant it I'm not sure how his numbers stack up against Bo's, i just know as far as shear excitement, Bush gets my vote. Knowshon whould have gotten it if the punk would have friggin stayed at GA for two more years and improved his game but NOOOOOOO...just had to go get the big bucks then....I'm not bitter. And I wouldnt say that I LOOOOOVE Kemba, cinco....just...a ...strong man crush...

June 23, 2011 at 12:45 p.m.
patrickd said...

Well, here we are, post #10. I was going to wait until the teens before throwing out a defensive player's name for biggest stud of all-time. Anyway, here goes.

If we're not even saying Ndamukong Suh's name when talking about being the biggest stud then there's a problem. His name deserves to be in this conversation is all I'm saying.

June 23, 2011 at 12:53 p.m.
jgreeson said...

Suh was a monster -- but he was one of three future first-round picks on the Nebraska defense. And yes Suh was a stud, but was his season (with that much talent around him) that much better than Nick Fairley's. Sidenote: they're going to be on the same team in the NFL. Scary indeed.

Surprised nobody has mentioned Vince Young yet -- was he a train wreck in Nashville? Sure, but dude was a stud at Texas.

June 23, 2011 at 1:04 p.m.
jgreeson said...

From friend of the show McPell, here's a look at some the bigger fashion debacles in draft history. Enjoy:

http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/style-points/201106/worst-nba-draft-outfits-ever

—5-at-10

June 23, 2011 at 2:32 p.m.
Eustice_Chase said...

They said I couldnt be a highschool QB....They said I couldnt get a D1 scholarship....They Said I coudlnt win a Heisman..your not big enough your not fast enough....they said I couldnt be a First Round Draft pick....yeah the guy that did this commercial....hes the all-time Gamer in (145 total TDs)College Football...Timothy Richard Tebow

June 23, 2011 at 2:33 p.m.
bigbearzzz said...

I cant give you VY due to his debacled time with the Titans has erased all preceding game information in my head. Sorry. Suh, yeah, and there was a linebacker a few years ago that played for Penn St but his name has escaped me now....he had a beast of a year...i think Washington Drafted him and im gonna kick myself for not remembering his name...

June 23, 2011 at 2:38 p.m.
jgreeson said...

Sorry gang, completely forgot to add the answer to the college programs that have never been found guilty of major NCAA rules violations.

Boston College, Northwestern, Stanford and Penn State.

Somebody get Vandy on the phone — they get to cash those big SEC checks and all they are supposed to do is keep the grades up and their noses clean. Somebody's got some splain' to do.

Oso —

I think that was LaVarr Arrington. As for defensive players — Charles Woodson was a beast, too (Yes, we're ducking so the UT folks that are throwing stuff at us will have less of a target). So was Derrick Thomas and Terrell Suggs and Rolando McClain. Hugh Green back in the day was awesome and Michael Barrow, the former Miami linebacker said he "shined like new money."

As for college players that may not have been as big of beasts in college, but then became professional beasts in the squared circle, we'll go with Goldberg, Ron Simmons and Kevin Nash. (That one was for you EC.)

— 5-at-10

June 23, 2011 at 2:43 p.m.
bigbearzzz said...

offensive lineman get know love. we should break this down into positions. Orlando Pace gets my vote for offensive lineman. And yes Cinco..arrington was it. How about some receiver love?! AJ Gr....no just kidding!! My vote goes to Randy Moss, period. Didnt Dewayne Johnson Play a lil Football too?

June 23, 2011 at 3:08 p.m.
jgreeson said...

Oso —

Consider it booked: One-year stud seasons by position. It's in. (and as for receiver, uh, the Broyles kid at Oklahoma last year put some REEEEED-iculous number).

As for the Rock's status as a college athlete — you may be right. We're going to need to get an official ruling here: EC, what say you?

— 5-at-10

June 23, 2011 at 3:17 p.m.
Eustice_Chase said...

If YOU SMELLLLLLLLLL what the ROCK is cooking!!!! Yeah He played on full scholarship at the U and if it hadnt been for an injury he more than likely would have been in the NFL instead of the WWE...not sure which one would have paid off better for him...after injury..he was replaced by Warren Saap...does that say anything as to the kind of athlete he was ??? Warren Saap was his back-up ??? The Rock played for the 91 Canes team that won the NCAA Championship....

Legend has it coming out of Highschool he was bench pressing upwards of 480-500 lbs........and he had the sickest of the 1980s era Mustache's....

June 23, 2011 at 3:29 p.m.
bigbearzzz said...

that's one sick 80's stache if thats true....

June 23, 2011 at 3:37 p.m.
jgreeson said...

That's right. And the Rock was great in "Be Cool," the sequel to "Get Shorty" (underrated film, by the way). And if Warren Sapp's your back-up in anything this side of a math quiz, well, you're doing something.

As for the Rock's stache, well, let's grade Rock's stache with the eye doctor test (You know, "Is this better or worse?" questioning with each different lense.)

Rock's stache better or worse than Magnum PI?

Rock's stache better or worse than Larry Bird's whispy 1986 stache?

Rock's stache better or worse than Rollie Fingers' stache?

Rock's stache better or worse than Dale Earnhardt's stache?

Rock's stache better or worse than Sam Elliot's stache?

Rock's stache better or worse than Isaac the bartender from Love Boat's stache?

And even if he sweeps all of those, here's the big one....

Rock's stache better or worse than the Bandit's stache?

June 23, 2011 at 3:58 p.m.
Eustice_Chase said...

Rock's stache better or worse than Magnum PI? better

Rock's stache better or worse than Larry Bird's whispy 1986 stache? better Rock's stache better or worse than Rollie Fingers' stache? better

Rock's stache better or worse than Dale Earnhardt's stache? worse Rock's stache better or worse than Sam Elliot's stache? worse Rock's stache better or worse than Isaac the bartender from Love Boat's stache? better And even if he sweeps all of those, here's the big one....

Rock's stache better or worse than the Bandit's stache? better

No one's can out class Senoir or Sam Elliot when it comes to the Mustache...but the Rock was as close as it gets....how many 270+ lbs do you see with a stache...

June 23, 2011 at 4:37 p.m.
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