published Friday, November 25th, 2011

Georgia called the New California by demographics expert


by Andy Johns
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    Mathew Hauer is an applied demographer for the University of Georgia Carl Vinson Institute of Government Governmental Services and Research.
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CALHOUN, Ga. -- A demographics expert says the Peach State is looking more and more like the Golden State.

"Georgia is the New California, and that's something people don't like to hear you say," Mathew Hauer, an applied demographer with the University of Georgia, told Northwest Georgia officials.

Speaking at a Northwest Georgia Regional Commission meeting last week, Hauer said the label is based on an influx of immigrants and rapid population growth.

Hauer said 51 percent of people who live in Georgia were not born there, and he labeled metro Atlanta as a "new gateway" for immigrants from all around the globe.

"We think of Chinatown and Little Italy -- we don't think of Henry County," he said, referring to the metro county south of Atlanta.

And that immigrant influx is making an impact on the population.

In 1980, 98 percent of Georgians were either black or white. But in the 2010 census, Hauer said, only 86 percent were black or white with 9 percent Hispanics and 5 percent other ethnicities.

"Georgia is no longer a black-and-white state," he said.

Fort Oglethorpe Councilman Louis Hamm said the population changes will be felt most immediately by the schools because more pupils mean more desks, classrooms and teachers.

"That is something that our school boards have to work on," he said.

Hauer's statistics agree.

He projects 1.3 million school- and college-age children in the state by 2030. Of those, one in five will be Hispanic, he said.

"That's a lot of college freshmen," Hauer said.

Hauer also pointed to statistics showing the high jobless rates among state residents with less education and discussed how that can put a strain on the penal system.

"It's either educate them or incarcerate them," he said.

Whitfield County Commission Chairman Mike Babb said the impact of growth is felt across all divisions of government.

"It's schools, but it's more than schools," he said.

Growth, especially among non-English speaking groups, increases demand on county services and can change the way the county delivers service, "even answering the phone," Babb said.

But Whitfield is "well ahead of the curve in adjusting to the demographic changes," Babb said.

In Whitfield, almost 32 percent, or 33,000 people, out of 102,599 residents are Hispanics.

Catoosa County Commissioner Jim Cutler said the region is "fortunate" to have growth compared to counties in Middle and South Georgia that are losing residents.

"As the population grows, so does the opportunity for economic growth," Cutler said.

about Andy Johns...

Andy began working at the Times Free Press in July 2008 as a general assignment reporter before focusing on Northwest Georgia and Georgia politics in May of 2009. Before coming to the Times Free Press, Andy worked for the Anniston Star, the Rome News Tribune and the Campus Carrier at Berry College, where he graduated with a communications degree in 2006. He is pursuing a master’s degree in business administration at the University of Tennessee ...

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Wilder said...

Hauer also pointed to statistics showing the high jobless rates among state residents with less education and discussed how that can put a strain on the penal system. "It's either educate them or incarcerate them," he said.

WRONG, INCARERATE THE EMPLOYERS and you won't have to educate or incarcerate the invaders. You can fit all of the employers in one jail cell - a lot more cost effective...

November 25, 2011 at 7:54 a.m.
kathy said...

Georgia needs to follow Alabama's lead in regards to immigration laws. Look at the state of California, the deficits, who wants to be labeled such as that. And it will eventually happen in Georgia as it did in California if Georgia does not control it now. I had to laugh at the statement educate or incarcerate, how about DEPORT. What part of ILLEGAL do these states not understand. The majority of these folks are here ILLEGALLY...deport them. As citizens of this country we should worry about taking care of our own first, not Mexico's.

November 25, 2011 at 8:04 a.m.
mymy said...

Kathy the problems starts in DC. The Federal Government for decades has not been doing it's job. Now States are trying to do it with the immigration laws. Then, guess what, they get sued by the Fed. LOL

Kick out the establishment bums on both sides starting at the top in 2012!

November 25, 2011 at 8:41 a.m.
sage1 said...

Legal immigration is not a problem. These people enter the country legally, get jobs, buy homes and pay taxes. They enter their children into schools that they are helping to support through the taxes that they pay. NOT SO the Illegal immigrants. They abuse the tax base by taking from it in many ways, while not contributing.

November 25, 2011 at 8:54 a.m.
Wilder said...

AT mymy

The problem is actually an uninformed and gullible electorate, who is incapable of comprehending the corruption that is rampant in our political system, where the politicians are handpicked, and their campaigns are financed, in exchange for special favors. The voters are duped into believing that politicians are actually going to represent them, instead of their financiers.

In Georgia, "Shady" Deal convinced voters that he was the mother of all anti-immigration candidates, even though his campaign's largest contributors are the largest employers of illegal aliens in Georgia,e.g., Dalton's carpet mills and Gainesville's poultry processors. You can verify this on ethics.ga.gov, if Deal hasn't shut down the web site.

The intent of HB-87 is to pacify Georgia's ignorant voters, while it's business as usual in the poultry and carpet industry. There are enough loopholes in the law to drive a train through, e.g., no checks of immigration status for current employees. The law is a sham.

November 25, 2011 at 12:43 p.m.
bryseana said...

America is an immigrant nation always has been

November 25, 2011 at 1:21 p.m.
Wilder said...

AT bryseana, Not very informed, are you? The current influx of 10s of millions of uneducated and unskilled indigents, that the taxpayers are forced to sustain, though fraud, is unprecedented.

November 25, 2011 at 1:55 p.m.
papm said...

Actually @ Wilder doesn't seem you are very informed, in 1850 10% of the population was "illegal" immigrants. The problem that you have is not that they are illegal, its that they are hispanic. If they were norwegian you would have no problem. The reality is all of them pay sales tax, they would be happy to pay income taxes. The reality is when you hire an immigrant, they tend to show up on time, work hard, and are grateful for work. Had not had that with most local people. The reality is our population growth rate is not growing quickly enough to support social security and medicare. Here is a group of people that works hard. Additionally they are leaving their country because of violence, that is a result of our ridiculous consumption for drugs. Can you blame them? (and then don't say its their problem, if we are the ones funding it) We need to create a mechanism to allow for them to register, the ones who are criminals in their country get deported. Additionally I find it sad that many in the church take your position: 1. the church has been praying for a revival in the US - 25% of hispanic immigrants are Evangelical; 2. Scripture is incredibly clear on how to treat the alien :"And you are to love those who are aliens, for you yourselves were aliens in Egypt."Deuteronomy 10:19

November 25, 2011 at 7:28 p.m.
smadave said...

Papm said "We need to create a mechanism to allow for them to register" Uh duh...that would be a work visa or a green card. There is a mechanism papm...but they dont want to obey our laws, so they leech off our system, using up all of our public resources without paying taxes and then send their money back to Mexico!! Just look at the mess California is in!! That where we are headed if we dont get our arms around this. Wake up People!!! Arizona is building their own fence, I say we join them!!!

November 25, 2011 at 8:21 p.m.
Wilder said...

AT papm

In 1850 there were no income or property taxes, no social services, and no public schools, and employers couldn't get away with forcing their cost of doing business onto the backs of their fellow citizens. They would have found themselves hanging from a tree limb.

The pittance "illegal" "aliens" pay in sales tax doesn't even come close to offseting the monetary and social costs that their presence inflicts on this country's citizens. There's too many to list.

As for as them replenishing Social Security and Medicare, on the contrary, they are bankrupting them.

As for as the Hispanic vs Norwegian immigrants, when was the last time you called a business, and they gave you an option to conduct your business in Norwegian? It is ludicrous for our government to force American citizens to kowtow to foreign invaders, for the benefit of the greediest among us.

As for the bible, it doesn't apply, and your reference to the drug trade is too ridiculous to warrant a reply.

November 25, 2011 at 8:29 p.m.
papm said...

Wilder, I apologize I did not realize how much it upsets you to have to press #2 for spanish on the phone menu. You are right that is really inconvenient. Agree with you on the no income tax in 1850 though, my bad. With regards to Arizona, have a Republican in the state senate in AZ who voted for the bill, and now wishes it had been modified. He pointed me to http://news.yahoo.com/numbers-alabama-immigration-laws-effect-economy-171100681.html , and with regards to the green card... the system does not work, even Republicans (of which I am one) will admit it has to be revamped. So I guess I agree with you, green cards need to be made much more simple

November 25, 2011 at 9:03 p.m.
Wilder said...

AT papm

It's more than pressing 1 for English. The government's heavy hand on the language issue is costing you and your fellow taxpayers 10s of millions of dollars a year. Add up the cost of interpreters in our courts, medical facilities, and the associated loss of production, the disruption of our schools et al. Your naivete on this issue is grossly obvious.

The biased coverage of the Alabama law doesn't even qualify as journalism...

November 25, 2011 at 9:24 p.m.
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