published Thursday, October 13th, 2011

Florida lawmaker wants to bring back firing squads and electric chair

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    Utah State Prison: The execution chamber after Ronnie Lee Gardner was executed by firing squad. (AP Photo/Trent Nelson - Pool)

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TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — Saying it's time to stop letting convicted killers "get off that easy," a Florida state lawmaker wants to use firing squads or the electric chair for those on death row.

Rep. Brad Drake filed a bill this week that would end the use of lethal injection in Florida executions. Instead, those with a death sentence would choose between electrocution or a firing squad.

Drake, a Republican, says the idea came to him after having a conversation with a constituent at a Waffle House over the legal battles associated with last month's execution of Manuel Valle. Valle's lawyers tried to stop the execution by arguing that a new lethal drug cocktail would cause him pain and constitute cruel and unusual punishment.

The GOP-controlled Florida Legislature will consider the bill during the 2012 session.

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cannonball said...

They should show it live on cnn and fox news.

October 13, 2011 at 7:27 a.m.
GatorFan said...

They should bring back hangings. It's the cheapest way. They need one setup outside every courthouse so as soon as the criminal is sentenced to death, they take em out back and hang em right away!

October 13, 2011 at 8:02 a.m.
tmarko730 said...

Who cares if it caused him pain and cruel and unusual punishment,he killed a police officer in 1978,he was on death row for 33 years,he got what was coming to him,should not have taken this many years.

October 13, 2011 at 8:14 a.m.
tderng said...

If the accused pleads guilty,straight to the gallows,If there is irrefutable evidence,one appeal then straight to the gallows.If there are questions such as no DNA then appeal away.Eyewitness accounts are very unreliable.I watched a great show on either the history or the science channel that did experiments to show how unreliable eyewitness accounts really are.Had it been a real crime an innocent man would have been convicted by 8 of the ten "witnesses".

October 13, 2011 at 8:53 a.m.
sangaree said...

Florida hunts humans during hunting season for sport anyways. So this is not at all suprising.

October 13, 2011 at 10:20 a.m.

The judicial system is not only out dated but its also broken. We are quick as a people to jump on board with any quick, cheap option to do away with these criminals. As cost effective and no doubt deserved ,given the extreme nature of some of the crimes. Why did we stop using these methods? I assume the lack of certainty in getting the job done that older versions of capital punishment had (i.e. Hanging and Firing squads) might be the reason. Do some if not all of these death row inmates deserve to be shot or hung if there's a chance of a slow painful death? If your answer is yes then i pose another question, What makes our desire for they're suffering any different than the sick desires that they had to drive them to the crime? Just a question or two. I will say the system is pathetic! At one point it was about justice now it's about courtroom volleyball where defense lawyers complain about how much needles sting the arm during lethal injections. Not to mention our appeals system that keeps someone sentenced to death sitting on the bench for decades awaiting the verdict.

October 13, 2011 at 10:28 a.m.
PaulWilson said...

I will surely draw fire for saying this but, this figures. Another right-wing conservative whack-job that should probably never have been elected in the first place spouting off on the death penalty. Should people sit on death row for years and years before receiving their punishment...no. Do I think there should be a death row to begin with...no. It shouldn't be up to us who lives and who dies. Plain and simple...I don't think any one of you commenting here would have the stones to pull the trigger or the lever to kill anyone. There are other solutions to death row...besides, death is to quick, toeasy a punishment for what the people who ACTUALLY belong(as far as the courts have decided)on death row deserve.

October 13, 2011 at 11:47 a.m.
esprit911 said...

I think the US should do what the French did with French Guiana.EXPULSION! Stop wasting money keeping these people locked up.Build a prison outside US borders,strip the criminals of their citizenship and maroon them on an island in the middle of the Pacific and never let them return

October 13, 2011 at 1:14 p.m.
GGD said...

"Drake, a Republican, says the idea came to him after having a conversation with a constituent at a Waffle House"

OK can we avoid basing legislation on conversations in Waffle House please...

October 13, 2011 at 1:15 p.m.
McRand said...

I'm with PaulWilson and espirit911

Why? Because if at all possible anyone who has been under the spirit and kingdom of darkness should be given every opportunity to "fall on the Rock" and have their hearts turned to being filled with the Holy Spirit and serve the King and Kingdom of light. He did not come to save the righteous, but sinners. Vengeance does not belong to us, but to God. However, the scriptures also tell us that the Civil authorities "do not wield the sword in vain". If an evil act is being performed and the villain will not surrender and is a threat of life, then perhaps he/she must be slain, but it needs to be done in the correct spirit. It is a terrible thing to have to take a life, but when necessary, "Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thy heart be glad when he stumbleth; Lest the LORD see it and it, and it displease Him, and He turn away His wrath from him." Prov. 24:17,18

October 13, 2011 at 2:07 p.m.
nowfedup said...

Paul, you seem only person who posted that has a brain. What is wrong with this nation that over last 10-15 years has gone from decent world leader to vengeance filled intolerant ignorant's?

We find it great to torture a new class of prisoners, "enemy combatants" when previous exact same folks were "Our brave allies fighting the Russians? We have no objections to taking kidnapping and sending the victims for other nations for torture. Via DNA we find hundreds of "guilty" are innocents, AR required Memphis Three to plead guilty to be released after DNA proved they were wrongly jailed, and one on death row.

Now we get this wacko and his merry band of degenerate followers all thrilled to shoot, etc, as "they deserve it", note on of Memphis three" was a "Them". Seem locals around here so love their vengeance, their hate and intolerance rules as well as their ignorance. TN does rate at bottom for HS grads, education etc, but at top for the worst.

Never though I would see day some elected idiot or it's Bill would be tolerated in what was once a great nation. But as the data shows, USA is dumbing down and falling behind world in almost every category other then hate, intolerance and stupids. Guess Feb sheet sales should do well this year, how sad the world sees such things coming from what was a beacon for all others, by elected and their socially and educationally dysfunctional supporters.

Seems some should read that thing about cruel and unusual punishment before they worship at their alters of "inflict max pain possible" as we the good folks say so, blah blah blah

October 13, 2011 at 2:32 p.m.
LibDem said...

How much did Waffle House pay him for this plug?

October 13, 2011 at 4:16 p.m.
AndyBrown said...

Republicans-Building a bridge to the 19th century.

October 13, 2011 at 4:25 p.m.
moonpie said...

What time in the we hours of the morning did this guy smother and cover sanity?

Just goes to show you, if you want to make the news, be outlandish.

October 13, 2011 at 7:52 p.m.
headcoconut said...

America didn't get the firing squads, electric chair and hangings right the first time around. What makes you another shot at it will be the charm? Hangings became a source of entertainment, where families even dragged their young children along to watch.

Here's another reason. Innocent people have been sentenced, even put to death in America for crimes they didn't commit.

After serving nearly 25 years in prison for the murder of his wife, Michael Morton was freed this afternoon in Texas, exonerated by DNA evidence that connected another man to his wife's bludgeoning. The former grocery store employee, who is now 57, was released Tuesday afternoon when he appeared before the 26th Judicial Court of Williamston County Texas.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/michael-morton-free-25-years-prison-exonerated-wifes/story?id=14663445

In the bygone era, executions were used to entertain. Upstanding Americans paid to ride the railroad trains from all over just for the opportunity to watch a hanging {lynching}. It became such a lucrative source of entertainment that the railroads made lots of money from the events. It got so no one cared if the individual was innocent or guilty, they just wanted to be entertained. Sorta kinda like todays' America is quickly becoming.

without sanctuary: http://withoutsanctuary.org/photos/07.jpg

October 13, 2011 at 8:28 p.m.
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