published Sunday, April 1st, 2012

Marketing

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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woody said...

I can't wait to find out what the other three senses (touch, taste and hear) have been up to.

Actually, I can empathize with your Moccasin Bend problem..we had a similar problem where I live quite a while back..and even after it was rectified it haunted local officials for quite some time.

This would be a great time for someone to step up and be a hero by solving this problem..instead of the usual deflecting blame onto someone else..Woody

April 1, 2012 at 7:30 a.m.
OllieH said...

Marketing Chattanooga:

• SEE Rock City

• SMELL the Moccasin Bend Wastewater Plant

• TASTE the bitterness of the mayoral recall

• HEAR the whining about Clay Bennett's cartoons

April 1, 2012 at 9:37 a.m.
Salsa said...

I've often wondered why they pushed so hard for a national park at Moccasin Bend. Who is going to travel here just to smell a sewage treatment plant?

April 1, 2012 at 9:44 a.m.
dude_abides said...

Yep, we can't blame the olfactory nightmare on that 'old factory right there' anymore, they're all gone. We need a Sewage Czar to regulate the amount of Jamaican souse coming out of the Big Ridge area. Maybe we could hire a crop duster to lay down some Febreeze on a weekly basis during tourist season.

Hey, we need name suggestions for the new day at Riverbend! How about "The Elizabeth Smith Memorial Bleus Festival?" We could have a cheese dish contest, with the winner being awarded a Jazzy! We all know that the essence of the blues is tight security and standing in lines with an enormous cache of tokens. Since we can't have the strut, this might be a hip replacement (ouch).

April 1, 2012 at 10:19 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Thinking cartoon on bad odors will bring Chet123 out of the outhouse.

April 1, 2012 at 10:55 a.m.
jesse said...

well i noticed clay put rock city on the left and the sewer plant on the right!

gotta be a hidden message in that somewhere!!lol!

nah clay isn't THAT subtle!(is he?)

April 1, 2012 at 11:44 a.m.
onetinsoldier said...

The smell at mocassin bend is a result of $hit running downhill from lookout and signal. Typical for politics and feces alike.

April 1, 2012 at 11:50 a.m.
jesse said...

actualy sign.mtn. has their own tratment plant on suck creek road at shoal creek!don't know about lookout,they prob.don't need one since theirs don't stink anyhow!!

April 1, 2012 at 11:59 a.m.
potcat said...

I suggest you go to the Bend on a hot summer day, as you pass the sewage plant, you want have to sniff, the nasty smell will hit you in the nose and eyes. The only reason something might get done is that this nasty if the wind is right, will hit the all sooo special Lookout MT. people who think that their sh.. don't stink anyway

April 1, 2012 at 1:21 p.m.
jesse said...

HET POTCAT! what you are smelling is your ARMPIT blowing back in your face!! i worked at mocc.bend g.c. for 5 yrs.after i retired and never (well almost) smelled nuttin!BUT the police was burnin tear gas on the pistol range one day and the wind was right and THAT GOT EVERY BODYS ATTN.ON THE COURSe THAT DAY!!all them geezers was comin into the club house w/tears runnin down their cheeks and snot runnin down their lip!!NOBODY SHOT PAR THAT DAY!!

April 1, 2012 at 1:42 p.m.
shifarobe said...

I was in north Chattanooga a week ago. It smelled like a backed up toilet. Guess all the property taxes they pay for those overpriced homes aren't going to solve that stinky problem.

April 1, 2012 at 1:43 p.m.
potcat said...

You are such a Liar, Jess!!! I have went by there several times, with other people driving and it was gastly. I suggest everyone to take a drive By, you don't have to take my word for it, but jessee, come on, why LIE about a well known FACT, you have NO CRED. And fyi, I'm a clean freak, nothiny smells on my body.

April 1, 2012 at 1:51 p.m.
ricardo said...

It smells like a conservatard convention.

April 1, 2012 at 1:53 p.m.
jesse said...

i lived in north chatta. for 55 years(my home town!) and NEVER got a whif of the treatment plant(UNLESS I WAS ON THAT SIDE OF OLD BALDY )i think you are full of sh*t!!

it's a givin that it would be nice if the plant was on mars or in st.elmo BUT it is where it is so deal w/it!

April 1, 2012 at 1:55 p.m.
jesse said...

hey potcat ? what are the options? it is what it is and it's where it's at! what would you suggest we do? all you wingnuts get on here raisin he** about this stuff but have NO ideas on what to0 do about them! seems to me you folks just LIKE TO GET LOUD and then ride off into the sunset!PERIOT!

i'd like some of the SCREAMERS on here come up w/some solutions! i ain't smart enough to do it BUT we seem to have some folks on here that think they are SO lets hear it!

April 1, 2012 at 2:08 p.m.
shifarobe said...

What are you talking about? I'm referrring to the stinky, inadequate sewer system. When it doesn't flow the downtown stinks. That includes North Chattanooga. See what happens when it doesn't rain for a long time. Hey, Nooga, up yours.

April 1, 2012 at 3:40 p.m.
shifarobe said...

Hey, TQ, don't you know, racism motivates everything conservatives and Republicans do.

April 1, 2012 at 3:42 p.m.
dude_abides said...

tu_ said... Couldn't we get a ToonBoy that at least can draw a slightly more realistic toon.

While you're being picky about the cartoon, why not be picky about the punctuation at the end of your question? The sentence, or question, might flow more smoothly if you placed the word can in front of the wort at, as well. I'm sure you will accept this critique in the same friendly spirit in which it is given, and not in the perfidious spirit in which your critique was delivered.

LMAO

April 1, 2012 at 4:03 p.m.
jesse said...

when t q first showed up on here i thought hey an erudite thinker from the right!WRONG! just another gutter brawling ,name calling bottom feeder! if you sink to the level of your opponents you are letting them choose the battleground! you have to seek the high ground to be victorious!(

April 1, 2012 at 4:14 p.m.
jesse said...

the reason you hardly ever respond to one of my post is because i almost NEVER post on here!!

today has been an exception!i woke up in a bad mood and it got worse all day!!LOL!

April 1, 2012 at 5:01 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Yes, tu_quoque, a typo. I'm just glad I'm not the one that came on strong first, trying to "take on the cartoonist" in my (your) own jealous idiom. BTW, you spelled O'Reilly wrong!

See how this cheap nitpicking makes us all look petty? LMAO again

April 1, 2012 at 5:58 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Never fails, does it? HA!

April 1, 2012 at 6 p.m.
shifarobe said...

I did see that piece on NBC's attempt to distort Zimmerman's conversation was with the 911 operator. How pathetic. This is a lynching. Martin, in my opinion, was gangsta wannabe. If Zimmerman is guilty of a crime, so be it. But so far all I see is a lynching and a smear campaign. Like I said the other day, why would the authorities there take all of this abuse and venom if they didn't have to?????? He hasn't been arrested for a reason. NO, libtards, it's not because whitey is out to take out all the innocent black teens in America, Like those horse's asses, Sharpton and Jackson have so LOUDLY PROCLAIMED. Since all the "black leaders" love having two nations, black and white, maybe they should get their own house in order before blaming whitey for everything.

April 1, 2012 at 6:01 p.m.
moonpie said...

Tu,

This is a strawman set up. Attack the cartoonist to later attack something with which you disagree.

But to the point made in tu's post..... You want a realistic cartoon?

Do you know what a cartoon is? It's a distortion....

But I know you know that.

You are smart. You don't need name calling or strawmen if you are right.

April 1, 2012 at 6:10 p.m.
dude_abides said...

BTW ... why does ToonBoy not list the "Good Advice" toon in his archives? -tu_

Maybe he thinks it may garner you the Pulitzer Prize for outstanding world changing commentary for your incisive, though at this point, to me, totally unmemorable postings. Or he may have accidentally exposed our (liberal) plans for world domination, and knew one of you conservative Columbos would ferret us out, and had it removed by the CCCP (Covert Communist Cartoon Police).

April 1, 2012 at 7:21 p.m.
BobMKE said...

The media certainly doesn't follow the who, what, when, where, why, and how. It doesn't follow, don't believe anything that you hear and only half of what you see. It does not make any difference who's right but what's right.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/trayvon-martin-case-exposes-worst-media-210020839.html

April 1, 2012 at 7:48 p.m.
moonpie said...

Tu,

See. Strawman. I knew it.

You're saying that because the cartoon is a distortion of angles and light that his arguments are not correct....

Classic strawman.......

Tu, you are better than that. You are smarter than that. I don't care what month it is.... argue the truth, facts, not strawmen.

April 1, 2012 at 8:49 p.m.
fairmon said...

I understand the storm water and sewage drain piping are combined so naturally when there is a heavy rain both run over into and around the street. Separating them is expensive and may mean no Arts & Crafts Education and those wonderful sculptures around town. It may mean the city may have to sell some of the businesses they own and subsidize that compete with privately owned tax paying businesses. It may even require the mayor and council give up some of their pet vote pandering projects. We had a substantial storm water run off and sewer fee/tax increase this past year, why? OK, if you don't want to give anything up, if you think all current city spending is essential just hold your breath, ignore the odor and keep your immune system in good shape.

April 1, 2012 at 10:13 p.m.
dude_abides said...

moonpie, do strawmen have nipples?

April 1, 2012 at 11:24 p.m.
moonpie said...

Dude,

I guess they have whatever features they are given.

Their predominant feature is frontal bossing, followed by the unibrow.

Strwmen are the image of their makers.... Therefore sometimes, they look like me. I've been guilty myself at times. And I'm pretty sure I have nipples.

April 1, 2012 at 11:56 p.m.
dude_abides said...

I could wile away the hours

Conferrin' with the flowers

Consultin' with the rain

And my head I'd be scratchin'

While my thoughts were busy hatchin'

If I only had nipples.

April 2, 2012 at 12:10 a.m.
fairmon said...

Why not ask the federal governments to print or borrow the city enough money to separate the sewage and storm water run off systems. The federal government loves getting their control hooks in state and local governments with grants, subsidies etc. Failure to deliver on the cities promises to get a grant for storm water run off resulted in the large fee increase last year, no reason to not go for more.

April 2, 2012 at 1:56 a.m.
sage1 said...

TIMES FREE PRESS Chattanooga: Old pipes pose problems published Friday, March 20th, 2009

"A 100-year-old Chattanooga sewer system could face fines and an order to upgrade the entire system, which could cost hundreds of millions of dollars, state officials said this week."

"Tennessee Department of Environment and Conservation officials said this week it looked likely the order would be in favor of replacing at least part of the system, but they did not know when the order would be issued."

That was 3 years ago.....I guess it was cheaper to pay-off the powers that be than to spend "hundreds of millions of dollars" to fix the problem.

I'd say the fragrance of "Eau-De-Peeeuuuuu" will be around for many more years in our city.....That's my prediction anyway.

April 2, 2012 at 4:42 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Not much of value here, except for harp's and sage's posts.

You have to love politicians that are obsessed with building an image and social engineering but do not know how to manage the infrastructure to support both basic needs and their ambitions.

Hopefully they will not find a way to annex my neighborhood soon in a thinly veiled attempt to get me and my neighbors to help fix their fiascos.

April 2, 2012 at 8:09 a.m.
chet123 said...

MY TAKE IS NOT SO MUCH ON THE SMELL PART OF CHATTANOOGA BUT THE SCENIC PART.....WHEN TRAVELING 27 NORTH.....THERE THIS OLD,OLD,OLD, BUILDING ADJACENTING AND TOWERING OVER THE MOC. FOOTBALL STADIUM THAT MAKE OUR TOWN LOOK LIKE A HICK TOWN.....IT IS SO EMBARESSING FOR OUR TOURIST BUSINESS.....IT MAKES CHATTANOOGA LOOK LIKE A 5TH RATED "UGUAKWA COCONUT-BANANA TOURIST TOWN".....WHAT IMPRESSION DO YOU THINK OUR TOURIST GET OF CHATTANOOGA WHEN THEY SEE THIS DECAYIN,RAMSHACKLE,NASTY,DILAPIDATED SEEDY OLD BUILDING THATS BEEN CONDEMED FOR DECADES BUT STILL STANDING HA HA HA..ONLY IN CHATTANOOGA...CAN YOUR IMAGINE THIS IN THE MIDDLE OF PIGEION FORGE OR GATLINGBERG..HA HA HA HA HA..THEY WOULD HAVE BULLDOZER THAT SLUM BUILDING TO THE GROUND HA HA HA HA

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT MR.BENNETT,THIS(THE OLD BULIDING) IS A BIG PROBLEM THAT HAVE WENT UNCHECK FOR DECADES.....ALLOW ME TO USE AN ENGLISH METAPHORICAL IDIOM...THIS OLD BUILDING IS SO VISIBLE BUT YET IT GOES UNADDRESSED HA HA HA HA...ITS LIKE SITTING IN THE ROOM WITH A PINK ELEPHANT AND PRETENDING IT DONT EXIST..HA HA HA...I USED THE PINK ELEPHANT METAPHOR BECAUSE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO OVERLOOK..

YOU SIR HAVE IN BIBLICAL TERM STRAIN OUT A NET BUT HAVE SWALLOW A CAMEL

THAT SHOULD SEE THE #1 TOURIST ISSUE THAT NEED TO BE RESOLVED

April 2, 2012 at 9:34 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

You, Chet are the "embaressing" thang about the city. Wise up, Rube.

April 2, 2012 at 10:17 a.m.
chet123 said...

JACK_DENNIS.....WHEN I TALK TO YOU IN A CIVIL MANNER...YOU TRY TO BE A BUTTHOLE...AND START THROWING STONES HA HA HA..WHEN I RETURN FIRE TO YOU... WHAT HAPPENS????? LIKE A COWARD,YOU PULL THE ZIMMERMAN?????CRYING, COMPLAINING TO TIMES FRESS-PRESS THAT I'M PICKING ON YOU.....THIS IS WHAT YOU DO JACK...THANK GOODNESS FOR COMMENT TRACKSYOU CANT DENY!

I CAN SAY THIS ABOUT JONESES AND OTHERS WHO DONT TRY TO HIDE WHO THEY TRULY ARE..WHETHER I AGREE WITH THEM OR NOT,THEY ARE CONSISTENCE AND WILL DEFEND THEIR BELEIF ...BUT TO YOU A SCAREDY-CAT WITH NO SPINE WHO LIKE TO DO DRIVE-BYS AND RUN OFF....IF YOU WANT TO THROW ROCKS AND RUN WITH THE BIG DOGS.....DONT BE A CRY-BABY WHEN I LEVEL ON YOU AND YOU RUN OFF CLAIMING YOUR PUNK BUTT IS A VICTIMS..DONT PLAY THE ZIMMERMAN ON ME JACK..BE A MAN JACK...BE A MAN!..EVERYONE CAN SEE YOU JACK...BE A MAN!....OK?

April 2, 2012 at 10:38 a.m.
dao1980 said...

"STRAIN OUT A NET BUT HAVE SWALLOW A CAMEL"

Love it!

New slogan for Metamucil.

April 2, 2012 at 10:44 a.m.
hambone said...

When a post starts out.... So-in-so "said" or So-in-so "Sez"

You automatically know what follows is B.S.

Nothing original here, move on!

April 2, 2012 at 12:04 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Chet: First off, I've NEVER complained to TFP about you. Heck, I even think you're one of them in drag. HA HA HA. Second off, I think you're faking the misspelling, etc. No one, not ever Noone, could be that stupid. HA HA HA

April 2, 2012 at 12:21 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Funny one, Clay Bennett. But I suppose we should just be grateful that there hasn’t been another incident with hundreds of thousands of gallons of raw sewage spilling into the Tennessee River. Speaking of which, I wonder if the city ever got around to actually purchasing those additional emergency generators for the treatment plant? Surely, so. I recall reading something that said the money had been approved about a year ago.

April 2, 2012 at 2:27 p.m.
grayhermia said...

Waste Water has to be processed. Chattanooga would certainly smell even worse if excrament was left unattended. I've not seen very many people offering a solution.

April 2, 2012 at 4:23 p.m.
moonpie said...

Tu,

I thought your questions were rhetorical, not in need or wanting a reply. To that point, Clay should use whatever artistic devices he chooses if he thinks they will get his message across.

As for distorted facts.... By not offering up a balanced alternative, your post seemed biased against Clay's view (Correct me if I am wrong about that.) An obviously biased question is as much a statement of opinion as it is a question.... Therefore, it seemed rhetorical, and to be an opinion that was the essence of the strawman arguments.

The fact is, the rendering of any object is a distortion. Clay is NOT reporting facts. He is giving an opinion based on circumstances. He highlights aspects to make a point so that you will understand the opinion.

So the argument that his drawings are not technically accurate in every way means that the conclusions drawn from them and from the subject matter are not correct...... Is a classic strawman argument.

It's like you're trying to say if anything is wrong, if any facts are wrong or distorted, then a person cannot and should not draw accurate conclusions or ever be right. In this view something that is 99.9% right, could be argued to be wrong, even if the .1% did not affect the outcome.

Its like saying it's not dark outside because I can see one star very faintly in the sky.

I'm sure you don't buy a new car every time it gets a blemish.... The car can still serve its purpose with a dent in the hood.

Happy for you to have the last word on this.

As for Kennedy, I didn't think you were old enough....

April 2, 2012 at 5:54 p.m.
fairmon said...

chet123...

I agree coming into Chattanooga from the west around the bend gives a terrible and wrong impression. There was a flap about that old building some time ago and I did think it was condemned and the owner had to do something about it. The clean up in that area needs to continue aggressively.

April 2, 2012 at 6:08 p.m.
teach_them_all said...

Bottom line - 1. You can smell it in Redbank, North Chattanooga and all over downtown. 2. It needs to be fixed

April 2, 2012 at 8:21 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Yes, tu_, literally. They wrestled between the names Manssiere & "The Bro"

So, the rib from which Eve was created was sown with nippleseeds, and they then evolved into working glands! But what about daddary glands?

You give more slack to the Lord than you do the cartoonist.

April 2, 2012 at 8:27 p.m.
shoe_chucker said...

jesse said...

PERIOT!

the word is period. and it's not a typeo you spell it wrong every time. how can you expect to be taken seriously when you cannot spell a 3rd grade word. throw your pc over the fence, buy yourself a typewriter, and stimulate the USPS.

illiteracy should be a crime.

April 2, 2012 at 10:16 p.m.
chet123 said...

SO JACK-DENNIS....SINCE YOU WANT TO BE PERSONAL,LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING THATS STUPID....IF I WAS THAT UGLY WITH THAT OLD SANTA CLAUS LOOKING FACE,I SURELY WOULDNT SHOW MY FACE....NOW THATS STUPID MY FRIEND

April 3, 2012 at 11:11 a.m.
chet123 said...

CLAY...HOW ABOUT BRINGING ATTENTION TO THAT OLD EYE SORE NEXT TO THE MOC STADIUM......WE HAVE SERIOUS MATTERS THAT HURT THE IMAGE OF CHATTANOOGA..THAT BUILDING BEEN STANDING FOR OVER 30YEARS VACANT AND CONDEMNED AND YOU CHOOSE TO OVER LOOK IT..YOU HAVE ELECTED TO ZERO IN ON A MINOR PROBLEM

COME ON CLAY, YOU CAN DO BETTER!

April 3, 2012 at 11:21 a.m.
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