published Thursday, January 19th, 2012

The Perry Campaign

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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Salsa said...

Clay = a one trick pony.

January 19, 2012 at 12:14 a.m.
betamax said...

Ba-zing. And the right-wing nut jobs complain in 5..4..3..2..

January 19, 2012 at 12:16 a.m.
John_Proctor said...

Right on Clay. He has no brain to damage.

Continuing betamax's count . . .1. . 0

January 19, 2012 at 12:19 a.m.
Momus said...

And to think, at some point, he was the front-runner.

January 19, 2012 at 3:45 a.m.
Momus said...

Palin-Perry 2016!

January 19, 2012 at 3:47 a.m.
fairmon said...

LBJ and GWB were enough Texans to last a long time. Both were big spenders and vote pandering entitlement expansionist without paying for them.

January 19, 2012 at 4:44 a.m.
fairmon said...

Perry's attempts to say what he thinks will appeal to voters instead of what he really stands for has taken him out. His consistent referal to Texas and what a great governor he is doesn't influence a lot of people. He should get out and give the others more air time.

Media bias has never been more obvious than their ignoring of and attacks on Ron Paul. Many people allow the media to influence them and never go to his web site and evaluate his positions for themselves. Advocates of a larger and larger European style government, which includes both parties, participate in not acknowledging that he is a legitimate candidate with good solutions. Romney's taxes are not an issue unless he did something illegal.

January 19, 2012 at 5:01 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

Texas have gained jobs since Mr Perry became governor. The US has lost jobs since Mr Obama became President (despite, or because of, a "stimulus" package bigger than any of President Bush's nonstimulating deficits). Maybe Mr Perry, whatever his shortcomings, would've made a better President than Mr Obama?

A subgenius who lets us use our own brains will govern better than a genius who wants to do all our thinking for us: here's your light bulb, here's your doctor, here's your car...Our President has brains, but liberalism cannot work, and is morally evil--coveting is sin. So is calling someone a fool. Even a man of limited brains has value and will get some things right, as Gov. Perry demonstrates.

January 19, 2012 at 5:58 a.m.
jesse said...

wasted cartoon and remarks!

perry is out of it along w/ paul and santorum!

clays just beating dead horses!

January 19, 2012 at 6:23 a.m.
woody said...

Regarding today's toon..can anyone say "pre-existing conditions?"

Regarding Andrews remarks..even a broken clock is right twice a day..Woody

January 19, 2012 at 6:36 a.m.
hotdiggity said...

AndrewLohr mentions that Texas has created jobs but failed to mention that most of them were government jobs.

January 19, 2012 at 6:58 a.m.
dude_abides said...

lol... Rick Perry jumped in the ring and opened up a can of dumbass.

January 19, 2012 at 7:27 a.m.
John_Proctor said...

The late great Molly Ivans was right.

"The next time I tell you someone from Texas should not be president of the U.S., please, pay attention."

Humorous quote but Rick Perry affirms it accuracy.

January 19, 2012 at 8:22 a.m.
rolando said...

SS,DD.

January 19, 2012 at 9:22 a.m.
OllieH said...

This just in: In an hour or so, Rick Perry will announce that he's dropping out of the race and endorsing Newt Gingrich... http://tinyurl.com/7peb9zx

Now this cartoon is not only hilariously funny, but eerily prescient.

January 19, 2012 at 9:36 a.m.

hotdiggity, and how many of them were paid for by the President's stimulus to Texas. If federal spending is so bad, why didn't Perry refuse to accept it?

And what's Texas's debt load again? Almost 40 billion? And that's just the state government. They have another 150 billion in local government debt.

What was it when Perry came into office?

January 19, 2012 at 9:52 a.m.
ArnoldZiffel said...

He's no more dumb than BO is.

January 19, 2012 at 10:21 a.m.
timbo said...

It is really getting old how arrogant you libs are. In the face of total failure of socialism and communism around the world you idiots still think your smart. Even more bizarre is the fact you think Obama is smart. Obama is painfully average in intelligence period. The rest of you liberal posters haven't had an original thought since I started reading this crap.

You just regurgitate whatever liberal clap trap you are fed and then beat your chest about how smart you are. A tape recorder is not smart.

Is Perry the sharpest knife in the drawer? No, he is not but he ran a huge state that has been successful even in a recession when all other states were floundering, especially Obama's Illinois. Obama's "experience" is as a community organizer (whatever that is) and a 2 year state senator that voted present all the time and an insignificant senator for two years..Wow! How impressive? On the other hand, Newt and Romney dwarf Obama as far as intelligence goes. They will murder Obama in a debate setting. It isn't even fair.

You guys remind me of the movie "Idiocracy." You think repeating some stupid mantra all the time makes you smart. "It's got electrolytes."

January 19, 2012 at 10:26 a.m.
ArnoldZiffel said...

Damn right, Timbo. I also suggest everyone read Mark Levin's new book. That's a smart man.

BO crowned himself a genius, kind of like Alprova on here.

Anyone who believes BO is smart is ignorant or has an agenda.

January 19, 2012 at 10:39 a.m.
ArnoldZiffel said...

Here's the way it is with y'all, you repeat over and over and over that BO is smart, popular and unbeatable. I don't buy it and I don't see it. You can go on and on and on and on all you want. You bore me, just like BO does.

January 19, 2012 at 11:27 a.m.
limric said...

Pretty good one today Clay.

A round of applause for John_Proctor. His 8:22 a.m post was great. How I miss Molly Ivins. Don't we all?

And lets all give a big hug to ArnoldZiffel. His writings are just - so - precious. "He's no more dumb than BO is." "Anyone who believes BO is smart is ignorant" Gotta love that, in a special Olympics sort of way.

January 19, 2012 at 11:35 a.m.
onetinsoldier said...

Newts EX will finish him off tonight, leaving the repugnants to vote for the guy everyone hates and is the epitome of the problem America faces, not the solution. Hold your noses when you vote and it might keep you from puking.

January 19, 2012 at 11:42 a.m.
jesse said...

newts ex is just trying to play some payback,get up in front of the country and badmouth her ex.get her 15 min.

i think most folks will see where she is coming from and take what she says w/a grain of salt!we all know about his BAGGAGE and he is still the best of a not so great lot!(including barak!)

January 19, 2012 at 11:53 a.m.
limric said...

Well, at least the clown car gets roomier.

January 19, 2012 at 11:58 a.m.
WHS1970 said...

Political satire at it's best, right on target.

January 19, 2012 at 12:05 p.m.
limric said...

Ooh, this is fun.

Perry responded to questions today by releasing a statement: "When you have states that are being ruled by, what many would perceive to be Islamic terrorists, when you start seeing that type of activity against their own citizens, then the U.S. should reconsider Oklahoma's NATO inclusion." He added that he favored zeroing out U.S. aid to Oklahoma.

"I should have invested more time fund raising. I culled more influence by lighting my cigars with burning c-notes. In portable toilets."

A Perry spokesman said that Gov. Perry will be taking his family on a well-deserved vacation. In Turkey.

January 19, 2012 at 12:15 p.m.
jesse said...

hunter would be proud of you,limric!!

January 19, 2012 at 12:21 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Timbo said: “In the face of total failure of socialism and communism around the world you idiots still think your smart. Even more bizarre is the fact you think Obama is smart. Obama is painfully average in intelligence period.”

Well, Timbo, when it comes to smarts, it rather obvious that President Obama is wise enough to actually grasp the reality of America’s economic situation, which puts him way ahead of his opponents when it comes to the matter of intelligence. Almost every Republican candidate that I’ve heard continues to rattle on and on about either socialism or communism when the actual facts show the real danger that America is facing is that it’s beginning to resemble a banana republic oligarchy, which as we all know is a serious threat to a democratic society:

"According to the Central Intelligence Agency, . . . income distribution in the United States is more unequal than in Guyana, Nicaragua, and Venezuela, and roughly on par with Uruguay, Argentina, and Ecuador. Income inequality is actually declining in Latin America even as it continues to increase in the United States. . . .

. . . Income inequality is a topic of huge importance to American society and therefore a subject of large and growing interest to a host of economists, political scientists, and other wonky types. Except for a few Libertarian outliers (whose views we'll examine later), these experts agree that the country's growing income inequality is deeply worrying. Even Alan Greenspan, the former Federal Reserve Board chairman and onetime Ayn Rand acolyte, has registered concern. "This is not the type of thing which a democratic society—a capitalist democratic society—can really accept without addressing," Greenspan said in 2005.”

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_great_divergence/features/2010/the_united_states_of_inequality/introducing_the_great_divergence.html

January 19, 2012 at 12:35 p.m.
ArnoldZiffel said...

Grammatical and spelling errors aide, I made my point. So many massive intellects on here SOOOOO DESPERATE to keep the dumbest man we've ever had in the White House employed for the next 4 years. Look how hard y'all have to work to convince everyone that BO is smart. NOOOOOOOOOOOO evidence that BO is smart at all, ZERO. In fact, BO is so stupid that he storms out meetings when an actual debate takes place. If he wasn't "black" he wouldn't be there. No other reason. He's got nothin'.

January 19, 2012 at 1:25 p.m.
jesse said...

don't letum bug you arnold!

all that down talkin and backbiten is why we can't comment on news storeys no more!

i have YET to see any genius's postin on here altho we got about a dozen or so who think they are!(most ofum on the left side of road too!)

January 19, 2012 at 1:36 p.m.

Anyone on here ever see the movie BEING THERE with Peter Sellers?

Kind of reminds me of Obama. In that movie Sellers plays a guy with no real world experience, who stumbles onto success because everyone thinks he's smart and says profound things. In the end he's chosen to run for President.

"HOPE", "CHANGE", "YES WE CAN" Those are really deep! Oh, and let's not forget the genius of, "intercontinental railroad"

Aaalllllllll Aboard. Let's take that train from New York to Paris.

January 19, 2012 at 2:05 p.m.

Obama is the real life equivalent of Chance, the gardener. It's funny (sad) to see how the bed wetters have fallen for this man's facade, his rhetoric and his empty promises. A man with no background, no family, no home. And now, no better than he was in 2007.

Sure, Rick Perry is out of the race. It's what happens when proper vetting is done. Not so for the Dems in 2007.

January 19, 2012 at 2:18 p.m.
timbo said...

mountainlaurel.... Give me a break...Slate...is that where you get your information. Totally liberal web site. It cannot be trusted for info. Income inequality is worse in the countries you quoted? The problem here is that in those socialist societies almost everyone is poor. There is no middle class to speak of. There are a few rich and a bunch of poor so it corrupts the data.

Their middle class is on par with our poor. Why don't you at least try to be a little logical? Income disparity does not mean what you say it means.

January 19, 2012 at 2:30 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Timbo said: “mountainlaurel.... Give me a break...Slate...is that where you get your information. Totally liberal web site. It cannot be trusted for info.”

Since Slate clearly identifies the Central Intelligence Agency as the source of the economic data quoted in the article, I can’t in good conscience give you a break, Timbo.

In an effort to demostrate a bit of brotherly love, however, I will post the info and link again so that you may go to the Slate site and follow-up on the CIA link, which is provided by Slate:

"According to the Central Intelligence Agency (whose patriotism I hesitate to question), income distribution in the United States is more unequal than in Guyana, Nicaragua, and Venezuela, and roughly on par with Uruguay, Argentina, and Ecuador. Income inequality is actually declining in Latin America even as it continues to increase in the United States."

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_great_divergence/features/2010/the_united_states_of_inequality/introducing_the_great_divergence.html

January 19, 2012 at 4:28 p.m.
fairmon said...

ML said....

the real danger that America is facing is that it’s beginning to resemble a banana republic oligarchy, which as we all know is a serious threat to a democratic society:

When did we become a democracy instead of a republic? Or, do democrats refuse to use the term republic which resembles republican instead of insist on using democracy resembling democrat?

LM quoted a reliable economic arm of government the CIA....

Income inequality is actually declining in Latin America even as it continues to increase in the United States.

Did their growing middle class occur due to taxing the upper income and successful more? One of the richest investors in the world is a Latino and continues to be admired by his government and the people in his country because of the jobs he has created. Could it be those countries making advances are increasing the number of wealth creating jobs such as manufacturing, farming and mining, check out Argentina. Our brilliant leader, whose intelligence you rate high, keeps blocking job growth and refuses to create an environment that incentivizes companies to build and produce in the U.S.? Our president and his staff think service industry and government jobs will create wealth and result in a sustainable demand for American made goods. Keep buying those imports and insist on increasing the national debt, insist on increasing the number becoming government dependent, print and borrow money to pay for it, bad mouth and tax the job creators, support the current administrations behavior and it will become what you apparently envision as ideal.

You think the current POTUS is brilliant and understands the economic dilemma and how to fix it. I think he is like a flower in government, a blooming idiot, that is accelerating our speed to a crash.

January 19, 2012 at 4:57 p.m.
riverman said...

So a little punk who majored in coloring at a Directional School in Alabama thinks he is intellectually superior to someone who graduated from a real college and Air Force pilot training? Only in liberal think would this be possible.

January 19, 2012 at 5:10 p.m.
fairmon said...

Excellent and accurate point tu_quoque. I think it was Margaret Thatcher that said sarcastically after a visit to Russia "isn't it impressive how they are all equally impoverished"?

The concern about 18% owning 80% of the wealth would be better changed by educating and training the dependent thus enabling the private sector to fill current job openings and create more jobs.

January 19, 2012 at 5:10 p.m.

harp3339:Margaret Thatcher would have done well to visit Russia BEFORE the October Revolution.

She might have enjoyed the Hermitage, and the Amber room, but if she didn't see the extensive poverty to be found elsewhere, that'd be because she only got to visit the Potemkin villages. (BTW, those pre-date Karl Marx, let alone his philosophy or the Leninist revision of it).

tu_quoque: So what you're saying is that a growing population requires investment, and that spending can't just be cut off willy-nilly? That debt has a purpose? My word. 30+ million people for the country since the last Census, it's not conceivable that the US as a whole also has to grow? And yes, the federal government has had to pay for some in Texas too. Who knew? Oh anybody, who looked at that map of federal outlays by state. So the people of Texas have to pay for the government, that's ok, since they get plenty for it. Not as much as New Mexico mind you, but hey, you want to allocate everything evenly or something? That'd be a sure way to imbalance.

In any case, Perry still benefited from federal stimulus to the state, so he wasn't willing to stand by his principles even to demand an out like you suggested.

January 19, 2012 at 5:30 p.m.

tu_quoque: Quite a lot, as I said, please learn about the country and how it was before. There's a reason they had a revolution. Not that anything related to genuine Marxist principles had anything to do with the Soviet Union, and Lenin only until a few minutes after his death. If that. He did have a stroke after all.

So a bunch of dictators engaged in typical authoritarian repression. Does it matter whether they espoused a sham commitment to any particular philosophy? Not really, otherwise you'd end up being against democracy and equality too. Yes, Stalin did profess commitment to that. So did Mao. And Justice, and a ton of other virtues. My word, a sinner can claim to be a saint.

As for Texas, you want to quibble over specific details, go right ahead, but I just want to be sure you agree with the principle, that a government has to invest in infrastructure to support its population. Do you? Yes or No? Do you also agree that debt can be constructive?

January 19, 2012 at 6:32 p.m.
rick1 said...

Mountaintlaurel, here is an article that shows income inequality rose most under Clinton and is growing under Obama.

http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=528200

January 19, 2012 at 7:59 p.m.
acerigger said...

tu_quoque said.."Why are state ownership systems almost always dictatorial in nature?" Who "owns" the "state"?

January 19, 2012 at 8:55 p.m.

tu_quoque, are you saying want to pare our discussion down to a single subject then?

Please tell me which you wish to discuss then. Do try to avoid the characterizations though.

January 19, 2012 at 9:28 p.m.
dude_abides said...

How do you people get the nerve to disparage Obama's intelligence when you can't even get the Iowa results right? Time and again we read about the importance of momentum, and the bumps in the polls the winners enjoy, and now they say Santorum won? Jesus Christ, next week you'll have Palin or Trump back in the mix! Whom do I thank for this tragicomic relief?

January 19, 2012 at 9:44 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Harp3339 said: “When did we become a democracy instead of a republic? Or, do democrats refuse to use the term republic which resembles republican instead of insist on using democracy resembling democrat?"

Please, Harp3339. I believe the Republicans use the term “democratic” just as frequently as the Democrats do - so don’t take it so personally. Surely, you know that the word “democratic” has other meanings and connotations attached to it.

Indeed, when the Bush/Cheney administration invaded Iraq they claimed they wanted to establish a “democracy” in Iraq not a “republic.” And when Cheney was boasting about the administration’s achievements in Iraq his emphasis was on establishing a democracy in the heart of the Middle East not a republic in the Middle East.

“We have in fact achieved our objective in terms of having a self-governing Iraq that’s capable for the most part of defending themselves, a democracy in the heart of the Middle East, a nation that will be a positive force in influencing the world around it in the future.” [Dick Cheney – 2007]

January 19, 2012 at 10:04 p.m.

dude_abides, thank? Hmm, the media, and the guy came up with the Iowa Caucus being first in the nation, which was apparently the McGovern campaign back in 1972, though certainly the Republicans picked up on the idea the next time around.

You could also go back to the New Hampshire primary having a tradition of being first in the nation, which goes back a few more decades.

It's all a fine game.

January 19, 2012 at 10:36 p.m.

tu_quoque: I asked you "which" for a reason, namely of the subjects already broached, and I really don't feel like spiraling off into yet another discussion with you here. Maybe if there's a religious/state themed opinion posted soon, but until then, I'll pass on a further derail.

I suppose we could discuss Rick Perry's faith and stay on topic, but I suspect that's not what you wish to discuss.

January 19, 2012 at 10:52 p.m.

I see you're still trying to characterize me.

You really ought to avoid that. Not just with me, mind you, but with anybody. It tends to be distracting.

But since you aren't making a choice from a particular subject from any of the other discussions which we were already having, or even discuss something related to Rick Perry, I'll just suggest you find an open forum where you can discuss what you like, rather than meander further here. There are many good ones, some of them far better moderated than here. Many of them also use much better forum software.

January 20, 2012 at 12:43 a.m.

mountainlaurel said... President Obama is wise enough to actually grasp the reality of America’s economic situation,

I would really like to know if by adding more debt since he has taken office to the sum of almost all the other presidents before him combined is having a understand of anything. He has been a disgrace to this country and done nothing but brought shame to all Americans.

January 20, 2012 at 1:18 a.m.

Lovetheusaorleave, I have to agree with you. Wisdom and Obama should not be used in the sentence. Unless someone can convince me that increasing debt reduces debt, then my opinion of Obama will not change.

This oil pipeline situation is the perfect example. The only reason he sacked it is because he's a slave to the environuts. Taking a step toward oil independence and creating real jobs doesn't mean a thing to him, he has an agenda and that's it.

January 20, 2012 at 4:32 a.m.
joneses said...

Clay Bennet you are not a cartoonist or reporter. You are a whiping boy for obama's communist campaign and you should be ashamed of yourself. Why don't you liberal cartoonist have a cartoon depicting Obama being brought in Washington D.C. on a float pulled by the Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers and Jerimiah Wright? You could write "Communism" on the side of the flaot. bennet, you are a biased pathetic looser.

January 20, 2012 at 7:04 a.m.
joneses said...

Why do you liberal comminist always attack Republicans versus promoting what this pathetic fool you call a president has accomplished? I know why. If you promoted anything this fool has accomplished he would not have a chance in hades of wining. You could talk about the 6 trillion dollars he has spent with nothing to show for it. You could talk about how he surrended in Iraq. You could talk about how he is surrenduring to the Taliban in Afganistan. You could talk about his unconstitutional health care plan. You could talk about his purchase of GM. You could talk about Lisa Jackson, EPA head, saying "I do not care if environmental regulation cost every job in the country". You could talk about all the millions he has spent on vacations, you could talk about his job killing legislation, you could talk about the communist dreams fromhis father. The list goes on. Clay Bennett if you want to live in a communist country move to North Korea.

January 20, 2012 at 7:23 a.m.
ibshame said...

I'm really going to miss seeing Rick Perry on the stage. He had one attribute: He made George W. Bush look and sound like a genius. LOL

January 20, 2012 at 7:32 a.m.
alprova said...

BBND wrote: "This oil pipeline situation is the perfect example. The only reason he sacked it is because he's a slave to the environuts. Taking a step toward oil independence and creating real jobs doesn't mean a thing to him, he has an agenda and that's it."

Clearly, a comment like that comes from someone who has not informed one's self to the issues surrounding the pipeline proposal.

The oil that would flow through that pipeline would never be refined into fuel that would be put into any American's gas tank. It would do nothing to give us any energy independence.

Rather than for me to waste my time dispensing words on you, here's some reading material, if you do desire to inform yourself to the finer details as to why the Obama Administration has put the project on hold;

http://www.propublica.org/article/explainer-what-is-the-keystone-xl-pipeline-and-why-is-it-so-controversial/single

January 20, 2012 at 7:33 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Harp3339 said: “Keep buying those imports etc.”

Your thoughts here remind me of some articles that I’ve read by Marc Faber – but only a bit. And unlike you, Harp3339, Faber seems to recognize America’s trend toward a banana republic. I found his article “Will The U.S. Become a Banana Republic?” particularly interesting:

“Thomas Friedman expressed the view that if the Republicans had remained in control of the House and the Senate, the US would have become a banana republic. But a banana republic isn't characterised only by a rotten political system, ruled by a small, wealthy, and corrupt clique . . . but also by huge wealth and income inequities, poor infrastructure, backwardness in many sectors of the economy. . .

A banana republic is also characterised by a ruling class that curtails people's personal freedoms . . . the fact that the ruling class or the elite comes from different political parties isn't a relevant factor in classifying a country as a banana republic; what is relevant is the determination of the elite. . . to shift wealth from the majority of the people (the masses) to themselves. . .

Now, I am not insinuating that the US is already a banana republic, but the trend is undoubtedly there. . .

. . . In the meantime, members of the American elite are enjoying the asset inflation, the printing of money, and the trade and current account deficits, because they keep the "lower classes" reasonably happy and content by allowing them to continue to consume and buy "cheap" foreign goods.

In turn, this excessive consumption and lack of capital spending boosts corporate earnings and cash flows, which then benefit mostly the elite, through rising stock prices. Moreover, the weakening currency, which is also brought about by capital flight – another characteristic of banana republics – doesn't bother the elite much because they have the ability to easily transfer their wealth overseas or to fully hedge their exposure to the declining foreign exchange rate.

(The aristocrats of banana republics are usually Swiss banks' best customers.)"

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig6/faber2.html

January 20, 2012 at 8:06 a.m.
OllieH said...

It's no wonder you conservatives fought so hard to prevent pulling the plug on Terri Schiavo. Obviously, you all could relate to someone in a persistent vegetative state.

Rick Perry was so stupid he couldn't even win over the southern evangelical vote.

I rest my case.

January 20, 2012 at 8:13 a.m.

Why do you liberal comminist always attack Republicans versus promoting what this pathetic fool you call a president has accomplished?

Now let's try the reverse equivalent of this:

"Why do you evangelical conservatives always attack Democrats versus promoting what the pathetic fools you call a candidate have in the way of plans?"

So...why do you?

January 20, 2012 at 9:26 a.m.
ibshame said...

I can hardly wait to see who wins the S.C. primary. With Perry out of the race the choices they have left are A) the King of Flip-Floppers Romeny (B the Vatican Rep for the U.S. Rick Santorum (C 'let 'em die Ron Paul and last but certainly not least (D the born-again Adulterer Newton LeRoy Gingrich.

When John Kerry was running for office, the catholic bishop in his diocese said Kerry should be denied Holy Communion because he was pro-choice. If Newton Leroy never got his other two marriages officially annulled by the Catholic Church then according to Church Doctrine he's living in sin and is still an adulterer even if he says he's been born again. I keep wondering when "man-on-dog" Vatican Rep Santorum is going to bring that one up. LOL

January 20, 2012 at 9:29 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

I see I did not miss anything here over the last couple of days.

Bennett certainly is a broken record. What, "conservatives" are stupid (and leftists are smart)? How many times have we heard that message from The Wart? Yes, when you have a very limited outlook that is not factually based you have to resort to calling the other side stupid, we get it.

How many more pointless cartoons will we see trying to lampoon the republican candidates over the next year? Let me see, about 40 weeks, two per week, would be about 80. Hang on for an interesting year of cartoons!

Alprova, I am being facetious when I say "interesting". Exceptional powers of comprehension indeed!

January 20, 2012 at 10:22 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

alprova said... "The oil that would flow through that pipeline would never be refined into fuel that would be put into any American's gas tank. It would do nothing to give us any energy independence"

That is a pretty interesting statement Mr. Comprehension. Just to be clear, you think that 100% of the crude that would run through that pipeline would never be refined into transportation fuels or, do you think that none of it would be refined into gasoline or diesel fuel that would be sold in the US?

January 20, 2012 at 10:34 a.m.
Haiku said...

BRP said... How many more pointless cartoons will we see trying to lampoon the republican candidates

Republicans are lampooning themselves. They're the ones who ran on a ticket of conservative moral values only to have all their own dirty secrets exposed. And guess what? Those expsosures are coming from their own inner-circles. No Dem. had to lift a finger.

Newt the perv who openly wanted his mistress and his wife to be alirght with that. Old boy Cain, where you know like in those old western cowboy movies and old war movies, the black guy was always done in first. Perry ran and hid before his own party brought his shennanigans out, no doubt.

January 20, 2012 at 10:56 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

*Haiku said...

"Republicans are lampooning themselves"

Maybe so, but Obama has presented a mountain of material for The Wart to satire. Bennett is so single mindedly anti-anything-obama that he cannot bring himself to add a little balance and variety to this vapid page of his.

January 20, 2012 at 11:15 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Joneses said: “Clay Bennett if you want to live in a communist country I move to North Korea.”

I believe his political cartoons clearly show that Mr. Bennett loves his country and that he has no desire to live in a communist country, Joneses. No, the only Americans that I've noted that seem to have a desire to move to a communist country like China are these new “corporate person” types created by our right-wingers on the Supreme Court. Indeed, a lot of these big “corporate persons” like Wal-Mart have moved and set up homes in in China. I think the attaction is the heavy air-pollution and the cheap child labor amenities that China offers.

January 20, 2012 at 11:29 a.m.

And what does North Korea have to do with a Communist country? They're the People's Democratic Republic of Korea! Clearly they're a democracy, which means if they're evil, it's because democracy is evil.

Or maybe they're just a totalitarian regime professing a lot of things in order to mislead the people, and not at all genuinely communist.

China might be closer, but yes, certainly there's a lot of American capital going there for some reason.

January 20, 2012 at 12:14 p.m.
ibshame said...

BigRidgePatriot said... Maybe so, but Obama has presented a mountain of material for The Wart to satire."

Would you have Mr. Bennett satire Obama on the following: GM is now the world's top rated automaker once again; The jobless claims are the lowest they have been in more than 5 years; The Unemployment rate is moving down and instead of being at 9% or above it's now at 8.5% and falling; - The list could go on but what would be the point?

No matter what happens that's considered good news for the country, there are those who (as Jon Huntsman said of Mitt Romney) will put party first and country later. They will tell lies, they will distort and for some their hatred for Obama has nothing at all to do with the fact he's a Dem but more to do with the fact he is Black. Those are the ones who would rather see this country go to hell in a hand-basket with someone like George W. Bush(who pretty much took this country to hell in a hand-basket) rather than admit President Obama has done as much as he could(without the cooperation of Congress) to get this country back on its feet.

It's strange how not a SINGLE Republican Candidate has mentioned George W. Bush's name in the debates. Not even Rick Perry. Why aren't they bragging about Bush's accomplishments instead of acting as if they never heard of him? Why aren't they telling the American People they want to take them back to the 'GOOD OLE DAYS' of George W. Bush's Administration? After all he served for 8 full years. Four more than his Poppy.

Everyone knows the answers even the Repubs - THOSE WERE NOT THE GOOD OLE DAYS. Those were the days of TWO UNFUNDED WARS paid for on a credit card issued by China. Those were the days of Deregulation on Wall Street which led to people losing their pensions and homes because VULTURE CAPITALISTS created FINANCIAL INSTRUMENTS(derivatives) like chips in a Las Vegas Casino and then bet those chips on the failure of the markets rather than the success of the markets.

Those were the days when the President of the United States was held in the lowest regard around the world because of his "cowboy shoot'em up attitude" when it came to diplomacy. As a result countries like North Korea decided it was time for them to get themselves a "new-clear" weapon as Bush would say.

When and if President Obama's "mountain of material" becomes his and not something left behind he had to clean up from the previous administration then he becomes fair game for satire and criticism but so far he's just cleaning up someone else's trash.

January 20, 2012 at 12:24 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

mountainlaurel said... "Mr. Bennett loves his country and that he has no desire to live in a communist country"

Call it what you want, Communism Lite, Socialist Welfare State, Welfare State, Bennett likes and advocates for the conversion from a constitutional republic with a free market system into a big government nanny state. He likes what he thinks Obama is "fundamentally transforming" this country into, not what it is, or has been.

January 20, 2012 at 12:27 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

ibshame said... “Jon Huntsman…Mitt Romney…George W. Bush…George W. Bush … Rick Perry…Bush's…George W. Bush's Administration… the Repubs … VULTURE CAPITALISTS…” Blah, blah, blah…

It is clear you are trying to find any excuse possible for the failure that is the Obama presidency. I wish I could screw up at my job for three years and get away with blaming everyone within shouting distance for my lack of performance. How lame!

January 20, 2012 at 12:35 p.m.
joneses said...

Clay Benett is just another Obama water boy.

January 20, 2012 at 12:38 p.m.

An earthquake and tsunami are the reasons Toyota is not the #1 automaker right now and you know it, Ibshame. The blowhard in chief has nothing to do with success. Ogasbag's electric cars are exploding in garages everywhere. It's funny no Demorcrat candidates running for office wants to be seen with Odumbo.

January 20, 2012 at 12:48 p.m.
ibshame said...

"BigRidgePatriot said... It is clear you are trying to find any excuse possible for the failure that is the Obama presidency. I wish I could screw up at my job for three years and get away with blaming everyone within shouting distance for my lack of performance. How lame!"

I presented some of the screw-ups that sent this country into the Bush Great RECESSION. As far as I'm concerned anyone who voted for him after his first term in office is not really qualified to speak on Barack Obama's performance for the last three years in as much as President Obama has had to clean up the trash left behind by Bush and his minions. When Barack Obama is elected to his 2nd term this economy and all that happens will be totally his to own. No way around that but until then he's just the clean-up man for Bush's disasters.

January 20, 2012 at 1:29 p.m.

BigRidgePatriot, but we have yet to see him adopt a Glorious Leader posture, even your claims about his worship of Obama are inference not supported by direct evidence. And that's what North Korea is, with a side of excess investment in the military.

If anything, I'm pretty sure you'd complain about Bennett wanting to cut military spending.

January 20, 2012 at 1:42 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

BigRidgePatriot said: "Bennett likes and advocates for the conversion from a constitutional republic with a free market system into a big government nanny state."

Good grief, BRP. I must confess that I missed this cartoon. Where is it? Do you have the date? It must have been one heck of a cartoon. Indeed, I’d like to see it.

January 20, 2012 at 1:43 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

ibshame said... "I presented some of the screw-ups that sent this country into the Bush Great RECESSION"

...rinse, repeat.

You are still talking about Bush only because Obama has failed. I am glad to see that you at least recognize the job is too big for Obama. Now let's get on with the task of finding someone who can handle it.

January 20, 2012 at 1:45 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

mountainlaurel said... "Good grief, BRP. I must confess that I missed this cartoon. Where is it? Do you have the date? It must have been one heck of a cartoon. Indeed, I’d like to see it."

It is the sum of what he criticizes and supports that expose him for what he is. He does not have to draw a cartoon of himself saying “I support Socialism for the United States” for anyone of any intelligence to recognize where his sympathies lie. That would be a good cartoon for alprova though, maybe then she would finally get it.

January 20, 2012 at 1:52 p.m.
ibshame said...

"chattanoogatennesseeusa said... An earthquake and tsunami are the reasons Toyota is not the #1 automaker right now and you know it, Ibshame. The blowhard in chief has nothing to do with success. Ogasbag's electric cars are exploding in garages everywhere. It's funny no Demorcrat candidates running for office wants to be seen with Odumbo."

Hmm were the earthquake and tsunami responsible for all of the Toyota recalls due to defective parts that were killing people? Or did that somehow slip your mind? I haven't read about electric cars exploding everywhere, maybe that's some kind of conspiracy the media has going to keep that from the public. yeah right.

As for people not being seen with President Obama? LMAO Right about now he has a political war chest that many of his colleagues would be more than happy to tap into. They are not dodging him yet if for no other reason than the money.

January 20, 2012 at 1:52 p.m.
ibshame said...

"BigRidgePatriot said... ...rinse, repeat.

You are still talking about Bush only because Obama has failed. I am glad to see that you at least recognize the job is too big for Obama. Now let's get on with the task of finding someone who can handle it."

No, he hasn't failed yet. I'm sure those like you are rooting for him to fail but he hasn't yet. Maybe he has not moved as fast as some would like but he's a loooooonnnnng way from failure. Any time people bring up Bush, it's as I stated earlier, people like you want to pretend he never existed. You would like people to believe that on Jan. 20, 2009 this country was plunged into the Great Recession and everything that happened was due to Barack Obama becoming President. Only the truly ignorant buy that line. You can't change history. You can ignore it but you certainly can't change it.

January 20, 2012 at 1:58 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

ibshame said... "You would like people to believe that on Jan. 20, 2009 this country was plunged into the Great Recession and everything that happened was due to Barack Obama becoming President."

ibshame, You probably know that is not true. In case you have not been paying attention, I think it was government meddling in the mortgage industry and inflationary monetary policy that created the bubble that led to the collapse. George Bush was part of the problem because he did not fix it, but he did not create it either.

January 20, 2012 at 2:16 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

The bad policy leading to the collapse goes all the way back to Jimmy Carter and included Congress and most of the presidents since then. Obama is repeating the same mistakes that created the bubble to try to pull us out of it. That is why he is failing so miserably.

January 20, 2012 at 2:24 p.m.

So one person let a house burn down. The next person hasn't fixed the house up yet.

Who do we consider the failure?

January 20, 2012 at 4:22 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Carter, Clinton, Franks & Dodds filled the house with loose newspaper and gasoline and lit the fuse. Bush stood stuttering and paralyzed, I think he even praised the pretty fuse.

I consider them all a failure. But Obama is the worst of all since after inheriting the half burned house his response was to throw more gasoline into the blaze.

January 20, 2012 at 5:02 p.m.
News_Junkie said...

I find it hilarious that so many people are posting comments that Obama isn't smart. Obama graduated at the top of his class from Harvard law school. The people making those posts couldn't get into Harvard law school as a janitor.

January 20, 2012 at 5:10 p.m.
News_Junkie said...

lovetheusaorleave said... I would really like to know if by adding more debt since he has taken office to the sum of almost all the other presidents before him combined is having a understand of anything. He has been a disgrace to this country and done nothing but brought shame to all Americans.

You realize that comment applies to W.? He was the GOD of the Republican party for 8 years. Nobody criticized his spending then.

I have yet to hear any conservative justify remaining silent when W. did everything in his power to run up the debt. If a deficit is a major sin now, why wasn't it one then?

I'm waiting.............................

January 20, 2012 at 5:19 p.m.
News_Junkie said...

If all of the conservatives posting comments here are smarter than the President of the U.S. who is a multimillionaire, then why do they have nothing better to do than post comments here? It would seem that the world is in desperate need of the sage advice of those geniuses, and there must be dozens of Fortune 500 companies who would gladly pay those geniuses million dollar salaries simply to gain accept to all of the brilliant ideas that would forthcoming continually from their mouths.

I mean they would would make such great investors that they would make Warren Buffet look stupid.

The world is eagerly waiting for you geniuses. Don't make them wait!

January 20, 2012 at 5:26 p.m.
Legend said...

@AndrewLohr said... Texas have gained jobs since Mr Perry became governor

Yeah, Perry and Texas job growth in the way of those private immigration detention centers that's cropped up in Texas, where sexual assaults, physical abuses and killings are the norm?

January 20, 2012 at 5:37 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

News_Junkie said... “I find it hilarious that so many people are posting comments that Obama isn't smart”

I don’t think I posted that today, but now that you mention it, anyone that falls for Keynesian economics can’t be all that bright.

January 20, 2012 at 5:39 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

News_Junkie said... "If all of the conservatives posting comments here are smarter than the President of the U.S. who is a multimillionaire, then why do they have nothing better to do than post comments here?"

I wonder how you feel about some wacked out libtard cartoonist labeling the Governor of Texas as brainless...

Pretty sure we will find a double standard there.

January 20, 2012 at 5:42 p.m.
Legend said...

@happywithnewbulbs said... So one person let a house burn down. The next person hasn't fixed the house up yet. Who do we consider the failure

We must pity the loons, hwnb. These are the same loons who would blame the firefighters for water damage to their home where the arsonist is the one who started the fire. They are to be pitied. :(

January 20, 2012 at 5:42 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

If The Wart is clever for suggesting Perry does not have a brain am I a genius for saying Obama is a Marxist?

Just wondering. Clearly, my statement is much more accurate!

January 20, 2012 at 5:50 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

How about a cartoon tomorrow celebrating our American Idol president.

January 20, 2012 at 6:09 p.m.

In winter, isn't warmth from a fire important? Though personally I would suggest a bulldozer to start fresh than reconstruction or a further fire.

But I think you're not paying attention to the real people responsible for the blaze, namely the renters who insisted on not being monitor or watched as they brought more and more trouble into the house. Heck, they had the fire extinguishers and smoke alarms sold off instead. But heaven forbid you blame the banks for their own willful behavior. Or Gramm and friends for their deregulation binge. Yet you won't even have us collect a deposit.

January 20, 2012 at 6:16 p.m.
alprova said...

BRP wrote: "Bennett certainly is a broken record."

And here you go whining like a little puppy.

"What, "conservatives" are stupid (and leftists are smart)? How many times have we heard that message from The Wart?"

Well let's face the truth. Rick Perry wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. And you don't have to be leaning to the left to see that fact.

"Yes, when you have a very limited outlook that is not factually based you have to resort to calling the other side stupid, we get it."

Mr. Perry stuck his foot in his mouth the other night when he mouthed off about the leadership of Turkey, and I think he now knows it. Why else would he have dropped out BEFORE this Saturday's primary in South Carolina?

He knew he was toast.

"How many more pointless cartoons will we see trying to lampoon the republican candidates over the next year? Let me see, about 40 weeks, two per week, would be about 80. Hang on for an interesting year of cartoons!"

Hey...these Republicans keep opening their mouths and inserting their feet, don't they?

January 20, 2012 at 6:36 p.m.
alprova said...

"Just to be clear, you think that 100% of the crude that would run through that pipeline would never be refined into transportation fuels or, do you think that none of it would be refined into gasoline or diesel fuel that would be sold in the US?"

I made it clear. Not one drop will be refined for use by so much as one American to fill their gas tank. It will be piped to the coast where it will possibly be refined into fuel that will be loaded onto tankers and sold to nations located in Asia, that are not held to the strict standards set forth and agreed to in the Kyoto Protocol.

January 20, 2012 at 6:43 p.m.
alprova said...

BRP wrote: "Maybe so, but Obama has presented a mountain of material for The Wart to satire. Bennett is so single mindedly anti-anything-obama that he cannot bring himself to add a little balance and variety to this vapid page of his."

Haven't you figured out yet that he doesn't have to bow to your demands to "add a little balance and variety" to his page, if he doesn't want to?

Clearly you haven't got it in you to go find someplace else to hold your little circle jerks.

January 20, 2012 at 6:47 p.m.
alprova said...

chattanoogatennesseeusa wrote: "Ogasbag's electric cars are exploding in garages everywhere."

Really? Can you point to one article, anywhere on the planet, that has reported a fire occurring to any Chevrolet Volt, other than on GM test vehicle(s)?

Not one single fire has been reported by anyone who has purchased one of them -- even those that have been involved in serious accidents.

January 20, 2012 at 7:02 p.m.

News_Junkie said..I have yet to hear any conservative justify remaining silent when W. did everything in his power to run up the debt. If a deficit is a major sin now, why wasn't it one then?

Well I am so glad you decided to put your worthless 2 cents in. It was a problem then but in case you have not noticed it is "MUCH MORE" now. Once again I love the way some idiots get on here and think they know a persons political affiliation simply because they say something negative in regards to a person in office. If you will look back at some of my previous post I have stated time and time again I did in fact vote for Obama. So please gather facts before opening your mouth and making yourself look like a bigger fool than you always do!

January 20, 2012 at 7:26 p.m.
News_Junkie said...

BigRidgePatriot said...

I don’t think I posted that today, but now that you mention it, anyone that falls for Keynesian economics can’t be all that bright.

***Paul Krugman believes it and he won a Nobel Prize in economics. What have you accomplished in your life that makes you think you are smarter than somebody who won the Nobel Prize?

I'm waiting.................***

January 20, 2012 at 8:08 p.m.
alprova said...

tu_quoque wrote: "With $250K of taxpayer money invested, in each one of them, they better not catch fire."

Ah Geez...you're guilty of repeating pure and unadulterated bunk.

The math used in that blogosphere quote circling the web, is based on the known state and federal incentives that have been offered and then divided by the number of Volts sold to date."

Thus far, about 6,000 Chevrolet Volts have been sold. A year from now, GM has projected 60,000 Volts will have been produced. The headline number would be $25,000 per car -- not $250,000.

But why stop at a year from now? The incentives and grants are an investment for generations of cars and they span over a 25 year period. The incentives and grants are also based on certain production goals being met by GM.

Projections are that these incentives and grants will drive sales of approximately 60 million cars over the next 25 years, a reasonable estimation that were a part of the plans that went into offering them. They will be offered not just on the Volt. Other cars are on the drawing board as we type.

Thus, if you divide the purported "investment" of $3 billion (a marginal guess at best) over 60 million cars over the next 25 years instead of the 6,000 cars made over the last year, the alleged government subsidy comes to $50 per car.

That's very different, and a far more realistic outcome than the $250,000 per Volt figure floating all over the Web in the last few days.

The crap that people dream up is truly astounding sometimes. And people like yourself just swallow it hook, line, and sinker.

January 20, 2012 at 8:13 p.m.
News_Junkie said...

lovetheusaorleave:

Your response was the looniest thing I've ever seen posted in here, and that says a lot.

I didn't direct my comment to you personally. I directed it to conservatives who failed to criticize Bush's spending but criticize Obama for his spending.

If you had bothered to read my post, you wouldn't have wrongly taken offense.

Read before you insult and you won't look as stupid as you did for that inane remark.

January 20, 2012 at 8:16 p.m.

Let's see, a car that might, after an accident, have an issue with a couple of weeks.

You know what, given that I've seen a gasoline fire, I will take one that could be a week away over one that is still way too common a problem. And I know this, because I had to go through a recall repair for one not too long ago.

January 20, 2012 at 8:17 p.m.

Hey News Junkie if you do not want people to think you are posting a remark about them, then it's simple do not put their name in it. But trying to make it look like something different does not work.

January 20, 2012 at 8:22 p.m.
fairmon said...

ML said...

I found his article “Will The U.S. Become a Banana Republic?” particularly interesting:

A banana republic is also characterised by a ruling class that curtails people's personal freedoms . .

Q: Who best fits this description of what characterises a banana republic.

The current administration and legislators have initiated more intervention in the free markets, More unnecessary and duplicated regulations, more infringement on property rights, personal freedoms and privacy than any time in history with those blindly adopting either ideology applauding their actions.

Ron Paul has the best ideas and is more logical than any of the candidates, those in congress and the current administration.

January 20, 2012 at 8:24 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

alprova said... "I made it clear. Not one drop will be refined for use by so much as one American to fill their gas tank. It will be piped to the coast where it will possibly be refined into fuel that will be loaded onto tankers and sold to nations located in Asia, that are not held to the strict standards set forth and agreed to in the Kyoto Protocol."

Last time I checked, we are not bound by Kyoto. Also, we are already importing Canadian crude and using it in the United States. Why does Mr. Comprehension think that will stop because the oil is delivered to the same refineries by pipeline?

The idea that it will go to Asia comes from the competing idea to run the pipeline to the Pacific Coast to bypass our obstructionist president. Once tankers are loaded on the pacific coast it is easier to get to Asian refineries than it is to get to the US refineries via the Panama Canal.

When we see you pop on things you know nothing about it makes it impossible to consider you a trustworthy source for information on anything.

January 20, 2012 at 8:55 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

alprova said... "Clearly you haven't got it in you to go find someplace else to hold your little circle jerks."

I DO go other places to hold my little circle jerks alprova. I just can't resist stopping by to jerk your chain and take a poke at The Wart!

January 20, 2012 at 8:59 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

News_Junkie said... "What have you accomplished in your life that makes you think you are smarter than somebody who won the Nobel Prize?"

Smarter than someone who was given an award by a liberal organization for foisting a theory that is loved by leftists and deeply flawed?

I had a really good bowel movement this morning. I think its name was Paul Krugman. That was quite an accomplishment.

January 20, 2012 at 9:11 p.m.

Nothing to prove he's smart in the REAL WORLD, not a damn thing. A lefty commie student bending over for commie prof to get a good grade doesn't impress me. Even Obama knows he didn't deserve a Nobel Prize. What did he get it for? What a joke.

January 20, 2012 at 9:23 p.m.
jesse said...

does alprova OWN this place??

startin to sound like he thinks he does!

January 20, 2012 at 10:07 p.m.
alprova said...

BRP wrote: "Last time I checked, we are not bound by Kyoto."

No, but we are bound by EPA regulations that govern the refining of oil.

"Also, we are already importing Canadian crude and using it in the United States."

Canadian oil sands or tar oil is 44% of Canadian oil production, which is not refined to United States standards. That is refined and exported. 18% of what we buy and use is heavy crude oil. Light oil and condensate comes to 38% of the total amount of oil that is refined for domestic use.

"Why does Mr. Comprehension think that will stop because the oil is delivered to the same refineries by pipeline?"

It won't. The pipeline, if and once it is approved, has been proposed to also be used to transport domestic oil that is pumped from the ground in the upper mid-west.

"The idea that it will go to Asia comes from the competing idea to run the pipeline to the Pacific Coast to bypass our obstructionist president. Once tankers are loaded on the pacific coast it is easier to get to Asian refineries than it is to get to the US refineries via the Panama Canal."

Then so be it.

"When we see you pop on things you know nothing about it makes it impossible to consider you a trustworthy source for information on anything."

Okey Dokey.

January 20, 2012 at 10:44 p.m.
alprova said...

jesse inquired: "does alprova OWN this place??"

Naw...I rent.

January 20, 2012 at 10:46 p.m.
dude_abides said...

BRP... (to paraphrase Newt) Your last two posts are the closest thing to disgusting that I can think of. Are you drunk, or what?

January 20, 2012 at 11:13 p.m.

Alprova is paid by the Democrat Party to park his big behind here and type long posts trying to convince everyone that Obama is smart and good for this country. It ain't working, tubby!

January 20, 2012 at 11:23 p.m.

Tea Party? Post-Katrina? I'd say that it has antecedents much further back than that, what do you think Perot was about? And there's also the Constitution Party and the older American Independence Party. Stirring up people's passions is an old tradition in politics, as is the involvement of influence-seekers. Fear of the latter has even sometimes been the cause of the former.

I would not say that the Tea Party has any kind of significant opposition to Bush though, I've met more that a few self-proclaimed members of the Tea Party who still admire him, and blame every bad thing he did on Obama, regardless of the facts. There may be some who oppose him, but I would say it is not universal by any means.

I would even venture to say some of the initial admiration of Perry was the appeal of another Bush in office. Fortunately it was a bit distasteful now, or at least his version of it.

January 20, 2012 at 11:31 p.m.
alprova said...

chattanoogatennesseeusa wrote: "Alprova is paid by the Democrat Party to park his big behind here and type long posts trying to convince everyone that Obama is smart and good for this country. It ain't working, tubby!"

Hey...it's no skin off my nose if you desire to remain eternally ignorant. More power to you. The unfortunate thing is, that you have lots of company.

Don't be mad at me for any lack on your part in being able to relate factual information. That's totally your own fault.

January 20, 2012 at 11:47 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

alprova said... "Canadian oil sands or tar oil is 44% of Canadian oil production, which is not refined to United States standards. That is refined and exported. 18% of what we buy and use is heavy crude oil. Light oil and condensate comes to 38% of the total amount of oil that is refined for domestic use."

Nearly all of Canada's crude oil (and bitumen) exports are to the United States. You are throwing numbers around and trying to avoid reality. There is no reason to expect Canadian petroleum exports to change to another country just because there is a more efficient delivery method. They will change, however, if Canada builds a pipeline to the Pacific Coast to get around Obama’s obstructionism. There is a much higher threat to the environment from transferring the oil to tankers for the trip to Asia then there is to pipe it to refineries in the US. Obama does not care about US energy independence. Nor does he care about American jobs. As long as he can convince the dim witted masses that continuing high employment is somebody else’s fault he is more than happy to take actions that perpetuate the high unemployment. He only cares about reelection and not offending his ultra-left base.

January 21, 2012 at 11:56 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Tu_quoque said: “So you hang around “lewrockwell.com”; well that answers a lot of questions. It was founded in 1999 by anarcho-capitalists Lew Rockwell to help carry on the anti-war, anti-state, pro-market work of Murray N. Rothbard.”

I’m sorry to disappoint you, TU_quoque, but I don’t hang around the Lew Rockwell site. The only libertarian columnist that I with some regularity is Atlantic’s Megan McArdle. Although I don’t share her political views, I enjoy reading her columns. She is a very informative intelligent person, and I always find her perspective interesting.

January 21, 2012 at 2:07 p.m.

Continuing high employment? That isn't something to which fault is assigned.

But seriously, you may not have noticed, but employment is going up. Slowly, but unless you want a major jobs program, it won't happen quickly. If you want a jobs program,, let's put people to work fixing highways and building nuclear plants and shutting down the coal ones.

January 21, 2012 at 7:51 p.m.
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