published Thursday, March 29th, 2012

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shifarobe said...

Hey, Clay, the facts aren't in, fur face. OBOOB and the other "black-leaders" who are really a bunch of horse's asses, seem to love a good race riot. OBOOB's campaign is now selling hoodies. According to OBOOB WE'RE ALL TO BLAME. EF YOU, OBOOB.

March 29, 2012 at 12:11 a.m.
OllieH said...

Hey shifarobe- The facts aren't in on the cat either. I'll bet that bird was just about to peck him to death.

March 29, 2012 at 12:14 a.m.
Welcome_2 said...

yeah shifarube. Let's us DO wait until all the facts are in.

Seems like all that blood and broken nose story is falling apart.

ABC news has gotten their hands on the police headquarters video of the night in question. Guess what? No blood, no broken nose. Nothing, actually, to show a struggle of any kind. You'd think after such a scuffle the individual would be hyperventilating, sweaty too. Doesn't look like the shooter was in any kind of shock either, as originally claimed. The shooter also looks quite the athletic type. Nothing like that 2005 overweight pillsbury doughboy image.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/truck-crashes-store-window-hits-customer-15783758?tab=9482931&section=1206839&playlist=9660543

March 29, 2012 at 12:22 a.m.
shifarobe said...

OBOOB wants distractions, he wants chaos and blacks to feel as if they're all under attack from whitey. What a complete piece of crap OBOOB IS. Just an opportunist. As the price of gas and food rises as we sliiiiide toward the elections expect more of the same from that nitwit. Too bad he can't put a lid on MEchelle as she goes on vacation after vacation while the rest of us can't afford the gas.

March 29, 2012 at 12:30 a.m.
shifarobe said...

Well since you have all the facts, and abc does, then send it over the grand jury. Then it's settled. That's that. He very well may have murdered him, but why are we all to blame?????

Wait until all the facts are in. I have no freakin' idea what happened. I wasn't there. He probably will be found guilty of murder. Whatever. What's really disgusting, what's really sickening is the way "black leaders" have tried to capitalize politically on this. Just disgusting. It's all one big distraction.OBOOB is a slimey character. Many black leaders are irresponsible vermin for the way they swoop down and use anything they can for politics. Why didn't OBUTTFACE make a statement about that poor black girl here in Chattanooga who was shot during a shoot out between two black gangs??? What, if he had a third daughter she wouldn't look like her? What a lolly pop head.

March 29, 2012 at 12:44 a.m.
onetinsoldier said...

WTF are those? Catdogs? Clay those are some ambiguous looking animals dude. Tabby terriers? Must be some sand mountain cats.

The only good thing to come from stand your ground is less jehova witnesses. Bless their hearts.

March 29, 2012 at 12:49 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

THE BEST DEFENSE

So shifarobe, you're mad because there’s an outcry over a white citizen on patrol shooting an unarmed black teenager to death?

I’m sure you’d feel the same way if a black citizen on patrol shot a white unarmed teenager to death. Remember, the alleged shooter claimed self defense privilege under Florida’s ‘stand your ground law.’ That’s the point of the cartoon.

Too obtuse?

But whatever the topic, you NEVER miss an opportunity to intersperse facts and fantasy in order to launch into yet another (yawn) predictable rant against the President based on nothing more than blind rage and ignorance.

But keep up the good work! I hope you’re for real, but I suspect you're merely a clever comedian indulging in black-ops satire.

March 29, 2012 at 12:49 a.m.
shifarobe said...

Bull*&^% bilgewater. What we're seeing is OBOOB and his gang of horse's asses use this murder to gain from it politically. REMEMBER TO GO TO OBAMA2012.COM AND PURCHASE THOSE HOODIES. THEY'RE HOT RIGHT NOW!LOL What we're seeing in the aftermath of this will reveal what a disgusting bunch of poop slingers the Democrats and the media are. OBOOB JUMPED ON THIS ASAP. Tried to gain sympathy from by saying if he had a son he would look like Martin. Once again I ask, dummy, why didn't OBOOB, SHARPASS, FARTACON and JESSE JACKASS Swoop down here and condem the shooting of an innocent black girl who was caught in the crossfire of two black gangs? She wasn't wearing a hoodie, so it's not worth it?????????

See you tools of the left, you useful idiots, never answer the question. You just respond with another question. OBOOB and the other loudmouths don't give a damn about anything execept political power.

March 29, 2012 at 1:05 a.m.
shifarobe said...

Democrats like keeping black folks in their place! DON'T YOU WANDER NOW, DONT' YOU WANDER AWAY FROM OUR PARTY. THAT'S A GOOD BOY, NOW GO FETCH ME SOME WATER. YOU KNOW YOUR PLACE, IT'S WITH US.

March 29, 2012 at 1:13 a.m.
nucanuck said...

shifarobe is clearly mad as hell and likes this forum to blow off thoughtless steam. He adds enthusiastic noise to the site and gives us someone to chuckle about. Keep it up shifarobe...you da man!

March 29, 2012 at 1:13 a.m.
shifarobe said...

The truth hurts, doesn't it. Shameless, shameless, shameless opportunists trying to take this murder and gain from it to drive more of a division between white folks and black folks for political gain. Who speaks for Keoshia Ford???? Not OBOOB, nor SHARPASS, not Jesse Jackass, not Loser Fartacon. They're all too busy looking for photo ops and sweeping black on black crime under the rug.

March 29, 2012 at 1:21 a.m.
shifarobe said...

"Thoughtless steam", expat? Might not fit your lefty agenda, but I'm dead on right. Gee I wonder what will happen when the supreme court tosses out OBOOBSCARE?? Time to riot, right??

March 29, 2012 at 1:25 a.m.
moonpie said...

How quickly we take sides...... The side we pick shows more about who we are and what we want the truth to be......

I will admit that I am inclined to lean toward the kid.... but I am content to wait for all the facts, for all the testimony and to let the wheels of justice to turn....

I think justice, or a close approximate will occur here....

March 29, 2012 at 1:27 a.m.
David_Franks said...

chifforobe--

RE "OBOOB wants distractions, he wants chaos and blacks to feel as if they're all under attack from whitey."

Republicans want distractions and chaos and for everybody to feel as if they're all under attack from all sides-- especially from that Muslim pretender in the White House. Even the birthers are still doing their part.

RE "What we're seeing is OBOOB and his gang of horse's asses use this murder to gain from it politically."

And here you are, trying to gain from it politically. The only reason Republicans can't really use the incident for political gain is that they pretty much made the incident possible-- if not inevitable-- in the first place.

RE "Democrats like keeping black folks in their place!"

Republicans like keeping women in their place.

That was easy. I see why you find making an ass of yourself so irresistible.

.

March 29, 2012 at 1:28 a.m.
joneses said...

The liberal media, Clay bennett included, will do anything to keep the focus off this pathetic presidents failures. Oboob has spent 6 trillion dollars in 3 years, more than any president ever and nothing to show for it, gas is the highest ever thanks to his liberal energy policy or lack thereof, our soldiers are still being killed and Oboob is still apologizing to our enemies for killing them, he has passed an unconstitutional health care law which would give the government power to tell it's citizens what it can and cannot buy. He spreads hate through his speeches against whites, the wealthy, and anyone who disagrees with him. He has attacked religious freedom. He is the first president to cause the country's credit rating to be lowered, Oboob has weakened our military to what will be it's lowest level ever. Oboob continues to attack industry through activist environmental regulations to run them out of business. He has caused the unemployment rate to continue to be above 8%. Oboob has spent 1 trillion dollars on a stimulus that failed. He spent 50 billon and paid more than GM was worth to buy and hand over GM to the Union thugs, He spent 350 billion to bail out the failed Freddie May and Fannie Mac, He has forbid the Attorney General, Eric Holder, to pursue charges against the racist Black Panther party for voter intimidation. He has forbid the Attorney General, Eric Holder to pursue charges against the racist Black Panther party for putting a bounty on a citizen of the United States. Oboob continues to implement his socialist/communist agenda to make more people controlled/dependent on government. He continues to lie to his blind supporters.

And you people are focused on another hispanic killing another black. Pathetic.

March 29, 2012 at 5:59 a.m.
EaTn said...

Forget race here. It's a question of responsibility. A licensed gun holder has the responsibility to not put himself or another person in a position to provoke another person to the point of needing to use deadly force. If the person shot had been the stalker, then there would be no doubt. Otherwise the licensed gun holder had the responsibility to call 911 and report a possible trespasser and let it go. Nowdays, trespassing is not a killing offense.

March 29, 2012 at 6:52 a.m.
Reardon said...

Assumed innocent until proven guilty?

Justice works..... slowly.....

March 29, 2012 at 7:25 a.m.
delmar said...

One question,,, Who is this OBOOB that the one poster is speaking of? What a strange name.

March 29, 2012 at 7:40 a.m.
ITguy said...

Why is it that the morality of the right is limited to reproductive issues and sexuality?

The same people who want to post the 10 commandments on the court house walls are now calling George Zimmerman a victim. Remember the one about ‘Thou shalt not kill”? That was God, according to Moses. Or how about this one? “But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.” That was Jesus (King James Version, Matthew 5:39)
I thought that all your conservatives were Christian.

March 29, 2012 at 7:44 a.m.
jesse said...

looks like Clay has already decided on the guilt or innocence in this case! just go ahead and hang him now and save the cost of a trial!

since spike lee got the address wrong maybe Clay could post the correct one!

March 29, 2012 at 7:44 a.m.
ibshame said...

For those who like to put President Obama's name into any and every discussion, it's gotten old. You need to come up with a better line of BS. The only part President Obama has had in this incident is the fact he was asked a question at a news conference and he answered it. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. He didn't go out of his way to volunteer a response to the situation but when asked about it he gave his opinion.

ABC news exposed Zimmerman's lie last night for what it was: A made up excuse to murder an unarmed 17 year old kid. The picture of Zimmerman as some "fat, overweight guy" was not the reality of what Zimmerman looked like on that piece of videotape. Supposedly Trayvon Martin had been punching him in the face and bashing his head onto the CONCRETE sidewalk. I kept looking to see cuts on his CLEAN SHAVEN head but there were no cuts. Zimmerman's father claimed in an interview last night that his son told him Trayvon said he(Zimmerman) was going to die. Now how does a kid with only a bag of skittles and a can of coke tell a person with a 9mm gun he's going to be the one to die?

Fix it up any way you like but in the end this is nothing more than a murder committed by a vigilante with a gun. The original police chief in Sanford and the original State's Attorney General were complicit in trying to make this a self-defense case because of that screwed up law.

When the investigation has been completed and all the facts are in I have no doubt George Zimmerman will walk away because of that law. It's no different from the video beating of Rodney King. Everyone could see the police beating the bejesus out of King but because he ran from the police and had drugs in his system the beating was considered justifiable. There are no witnesses to the murder of Trayvon Martin. Even though people heard cries for help there were no actual witnesses to the murder. People only saw the aftermath and that was the body of Trayvon Martin lying in the grass with a bullet in his chest and a bag of skittles on the side. That miserable law gives Zimmerman the benefit of "reasonable doubt." He will walk away.

March 29, 2012 at 7:47 a.m.
holdout said...

I think you are wrong shame. I believe that he will be indicted, tried, convicted and serve time. The so called shoddy Police investigation will be what puts him there. Anyone can claim self defense on any killing but it still has to go before a jury before it is a done deal and that takes a long time, sometimes years.

March 29, 2012 at 7:55 a.m.
egeltje said...

Re: delmar "One question,,, Who is this OBOOB that the one poster is speaking of? What a strange name."

I can't help but laugh when people have to come up with names like Oboob and Oblabla, yet rally behind a guy called Santorum... Too easy.

March 29, 2012 at 8:01 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Stupid bird. Should not have attacked the cat.

March 29, 2012 at 8:20 a.m.
joneses said...

I have a better more fitting name for Obama. Pathetic POS. Now that is funny but true. it kind of falls in line with all the disgusting names you foolish liberals used when President Bush was in office. So if you attack us for referring to Obama as the fool he is than you are attacking yourself.

March 29, 2012 at 8:21 a.m.
chet123 said...

SHIFAROBE.....WHAT TO DIALOGUE??????.....SEE YOU LIKE TO TALK TO YOURSELF......WELL I'M HERE....IN THE PAST, WHEN I ENTER THE ROOM YOU TAKE OFF RUNNING...I'M HERE.....AND WILL WAIT YOU OUT.....

March 29, 2012 at 9 a.m.
chet123 said...

JONESES...I WONT BOTHER YOU TODAY.....YOU WERE SMART ENOUGH NOT TO GET ON THIS TRAVON MARTIN ISSUE....YOU JUST HATE THE PRESIDENT AND LIBERALS HA HA HA HA

I RATHER HAVE SHIFAROBE BUTT! HA HA HA

March 29, 2012 at 9:02 a.m.
MTJohn said...

Reardon said...Assumed innocent until proven guilty?

Justice works..... slowly.....

Well, that's the way it should work for George Zimmerman. However, that is not the way that it worked for Trayvon Martin.

March 29, 2012 at 9:16 a.m.
Reardon said...

Really?

It looks like there's plenty of evidence if you're willing to look for it, that this story is far from over.

Have patience. If he's guilty, he'll pay the price. If he's not, then he's not.

March 29, 2012 at 9:25 a.m.
chet123 said...

THIS IS WHY YOU CANT TALK REASONABLE TO RIGHT-WING REPUBLICAN....THEY DONT MAKE SENSE.....UP IS DOWN....SQUARE IS ROUND.....IN IS OUT....THEY ARE SO BUTT HOLE BACKWARD YOU ALMOST WASTING TIME.......THIA IS WHY AMERICA IS HATED IN SO MANY COUNTRY....THIS IS A PRODUCT OF REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATIONS....AND RIGHT-WING NUTS LIKE DICK CHANEY!!!!

WELL WELL WELL....CAN HARDLY WAIT TO DIALOGUS WITH MOTOR MOUTH "SHIFAROBE"

March 29, 2012 at 9:26 a.m.
chet123 said...

SOUNDS LIKE REARDON IS HOPING HE IS NOT

March 29, 2012 at 9:27 a.m.
limric said...

Some posting here and in the entertainment – er, I mean media barely hint that the likes of Spike Lee, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and others are fostering racial division – and yes hate. But they are. Others insist that we must aspire to be a color-free society. But this is can only happen if we delude ourselves and sweep race under the rug, (this cuts both ways) and only if we only discuss it in whispers. It has become contemptible, and yes even considered racist, to mention that a young man killed by a man who is not black, who identified him moments before he shot him as black—is well - black.

These people exploit race and hate for self-promotion whenever possible. The facts be damned. And where they see race, they WILL cultivate anger and hate. Whose hate? Why blacks, who think they can blame anyone not just like them for their troubles, or use race as intimidation so as to be granted special privileges.

But, the fact remains; we all judge strangers as a result of instinctual factors. If we encounter motorcycle gang colors, we immediately take mental note of this; or a pickup truck with short shorn young men wearing “The South Shall Rise Again” t-shirts. This is no different than if a member of the self-proclaimed underclass wears what’s considered 'gansta' dress, and if there are more than one, that sends the same signal of potential danger. It is instinct. It is Survival!

But recent feigned outrage hides the very hate of those who loudly accuse others of its practice. These carnival barker accusers insist they be held blame-free, since, in their rules they never bring on the antagonism they receive.

I’d better shut up before I am accused of being in the KKK. Once the racist moniker gets its grip on you, it’s very hard to shake loose, unless I submit to demands of special privileges.

Speculate all you want about this case. We essentially know very little about it. The media does nothing more than add gasoline to an already lit BBQ. I’ll reserve comment on this case until the “He’s guilty” court of public opinion dies down. I will not however reserve comment regarding the despicable behavior of the absurdly egotistical ‘black leadership’ or the equally absurd media I mentioned earlier.

Clay Bennett, being a satirist gets a pass on the “equally absurd media” derision.

March 29, 2012 at 9:31 a.m.
chet123 said...

THIS IS WHY I DONT COME ON EVERYDAY.....PEOPLE LIKE SHIFAROBE WILL HIDE....IF I REALLY,REALLY,REALLY BELEIVE IN AN ISSUE I WOULD DEFEND IT....I WOULDNT RUN AND HIDE....I WOULD SPEAK MY CONVICTION....I WANDER WHY THESE CRACK-POTS HIDE....SOMETHING TELL ME THEY DONT EVEN BELEIVE THEIR OWN STORY....MAYBE BECAUSE THEY KNOW ITS A LIE...

March 29, 2012 at 9:35 a.m.
davisss13 said...

This just confirms what I've thought for years... when the GOP talks race in any way, shape or form... they look like raging lunatics. They just can't help themselves.

March 29, 2012 at 9:38 a.m.
whatsnottaken said...

As a card-carrying pistol-packer, when I decide to shoot something, it's always self-defense. Save yourself, don't piss me off or come near me and we won't have a need for anymore of these whiney cartoons.

March 29, 2012 at 9:39 a.m.
Walden said...

Note to convenience stores: please quit selling Chet forties.

Thanks

March 29, 2012 at 9:43 a.m.
timbo said...

Anyone with any sense can figure this thing out for themselves. Put away all the race baiting and anti-gun B.S. and just look at the facts. If the police or the state's attorney had anything he would be behind bars. They would not put themselves through this liberal, racist meat grinder to protect one "white hispanic." (Whatever that is)

Zimmerman has witnesses that corroborate his story. He has injuries corroborate his story. He has recordings that corroborate his story.
On this racism nonsense, his best friend is black and he is half hispanic.

The race baiters and poverty pimps would have you believe that Zimmerman was a rabid racist with a sheet and hood roaming the neighborhood looking for blacks to kill. This doesn't make sense either. If I was out to hunt something down I would not call 911 first to tell on myself. He would have just shot him and the narrative would have been mine his. Instead, he let the cops know what was going on.

This is about getting blacks upset enough to show up to vote for Obama by playing the victim. You stupid liberals like Clay Bennett and the rest of you racial apologists, seeing racial boogie men everywhere is sick. The only racists here are the liberals and the poverty pimps using this to make news and political hay.

Mr. Martin played the thug card and Mr. Zimmerman called it. Martin would be alive if he had just continued to walk away instead of attacking Zimmerman. It's too bad but it should be a lesson to the wannabee thugs and gang bangers that basically try to intimidate law abiding people both black and white.

Zimmerman will be railroaded to appease this racist black mob. All of the hubbub about this only causes more racism on both sides.

March 29, 2012 at 9:50 a.m.
chet123 said...

LIMRIC....I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT 99% OF THE TIME.....THIS IS WHY I HAVE NEVER POSTED YOU..

WE WOULDNT BE TALKING ABOUT THIS IF THE POLICE HAD NOT TRIED TO COVER-UP.........PERSONALLY, I DONT THINK ZIMMERMAN IS RACIST...I THINK HE IS CRAZY....IF POLICE HAD ARREST ZIMMERSON LIKE THEY SHOULD HAVE AND HELD HIM FROM THE BEGINNING...WE WOULDNT BE TALKING ABOUT THIS ISSUE..IT WOULD BE OVER BECAUSE ITS NOT RARE FOR BLACK YOUTH TO LOOSE THEIR LIVES FROM GANG VIOLENCE......BUT IT IS UN-USUAL FOR ANY SHOOTING SUSPECT TO NOT BE HELD ,TESTED, BUT SENT HOME WITH A MURDER-WEAPON

THE POLICE HELD T.MARTIN BODY WITHOUT NOTIFYING THE PARENT FOR THREE DAYS...THIS IS A KID(NOT A MONSTER)A SMALL YOUTH AROUND 150LBS......IF SHAPTON HAD NOT SAID ANYTHING(THANKS GOD FOR SHAPTON), THIS INJUSTICE WOULD HAVE BEEN COVER-UP....THUSLY OPEN SEASON ON YOUNG BLACK MALES....AND OLD BLACK MALES WITH HOODIES...FROM READING POSTS ON HERE YOU KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF HATE FROM A CERTAIN DEMOGRAPHIC....BLIND HATE FOR ANYONE WHO LOOK DIFFERENT FROM THEM...HATE FOR ANYONE WHO POLITICAL PARTY IS DIFFERENT FROM THEIR PARTY....AS IN MISSISSIPPI ,GEORGIA,ALABAMA 50YEARS AGO.....CERTAIN PEOPLE IN THE SOUTH COULD SHOOT TO KILL....AND THEY DID BECAUSE THEY KNEW NOTHING WOULD HAPPEN....BLACK PEOPLE STILL REMEMBER THIS.....THIS IS PART OF AMERICA HISTORY.....

YOU DONT HAVE A DOG IN THE FIGHT....YOU CAN BE STOLID,LAID-BACK OR EVEN UNMOVED....YOUR SON LIFE IS NOT IN JEAPODY OR AT RISK WHEN EVER HE LEAVE HOME...HE WILL NOT BE SHOT BY A PUBLIC SERVANT(POLICE)!

YOU ARE A GOOD AND DESCENT MAN....I HAVE READ ALL OF YOUR POSTS...TAKE CARE MY FRIEND!

March 29, 2012 at 10:10 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Self-defense appears to be breaking down. The press and the southpaws will be delighted. Stir it up, lads.

March 29, 2012 at 10:12 a.m.
Reardon said...

Chet -- a bit of advice, turn your caps lock off when you post. It's much harder to read your opinions.

Chet -- sounds like you're baselessly assuming I'm a right-wing hate-monger that's enjoys the day when any black folk gets shot.

Well, you're wrong, and quite honestly, I've probably directly helped more black folks out here in Chattanooga than you could imagine.

Obviously, the facts are still being smoked out and if the authorities think it wise to take Zimmerman to court -- because they have what is known as factual evidence, then trust me, especially with all the showmen like Sharpton and Jackson in attendance, they certainly will press charges.

And if the evidence shows Zimmerman is guilty of something, he will serve his time.

...Just have patience. Justice will be served. As slowly as it comes. Let the facts get smoked out and see where this goes.

March 29, 2012 at 10:24 a.m.
chet123 said...

TIMBO...WE KNOW ZIMMERMAN HAD A WHOLE MONTH IN HIDING TO MAKE-UP AND REHEARSE HIS LIE

AND WHY ARE YOU CONCERN?? YOU SEEM TO BE DISAPPOINTED THAT THE BLACK YOUTH WAS INNOCENT...THIS WHOLE ISSUE DONT AFFECT YOU ONE WAY OR ANOTHER..I NOTICE YOUR HERO FOX TV HAVE ALREADY SAID THE YOUTH WHO IS 100LBS LIGHTER THAN ZIMMERMAN ATTACKED SLAM A MAN 100LBS HEAVIER TO THE GROUND....SLAMMING ZIMMERMAN HEAD ON CONCRETE.....BREAKING ZIMMERMAN NOSE.....HA HA HA...NOW FOX WOULD NEVER APOLIGIZE TO THE MARTIN FAMILY.....THEY JUST GO ON TO THE NEXT MANUFACTURE LIE HA HA HA....THE WHOLE WORLD SEE THIS INJUSTICE!!!!!!HOW CAN AMERICA TELL OTHER COUNTRY THAT DEMOCRACY IS THE WAY TO GO...Hmmmm?

THE SAD THING IS THAT THIS LIE WOULD HAVE FLOWN 30YEARS AGO.....BUT NOW WE HAVE CAMERA.....AND AUDIO TAPES(1,000'S OF BLACK MEN HAVE BEEN UNJUSTLY MURDER BY POLICE..THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPOSE TO PROTECT US)......THIS IS WHY SOCIAL REPUBLICAN AND TEA PARTY TRUMP CONSERVATIVE.....THEY WANT TO RETURN TO STATE GOVERNMET DAYS AND THIS IS WHY BLACK PEOPLE DONT TRUST STATE GOVERNMENT...TOO MUCH NEPOTISM!...THIS IS WHY BLACK AMERICAN TRUST FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OVER STATE GOVERNMENT....STATES GOVERNMENT HAVE ALWAYS BEEN KLANISH....THANKS TO SOUTHERN BAPTIST

March 29, 2012 at 10:34 a.m.
timbo said...

chet123... You are a lunatic. You are living in your own world.

March 29, 2012 at 10:38 a.m.
MTJohn said...

Jack_Dennis said...

Self-defense appears to be breaking down. The press and the southpaws will be delighted. Stir it up, lads.

Jack - perhaps you can explain to me why it is that the party of law-and-order apparently is will to support Zimmerman in is claim to self defense. Without assuming that Zimmerman is guilty, how is it possible for justice to be served if he is not tried and all of the evidence heard before a jury of his peers?

March 29, 2012 at 10:49 a.m.

Nooga, your post is a waste, they make many good points. You don't seem to like anyone who criticizes Obama.

It truly is disgusting how the black leadership, if you want label them that, have done their best to turn this into a race war. It's down right embarrassing how badly Obama has handled this. He has fueled this by what he's said and what hasn't said. Get a grip!

March 29, 2012 at 10:50 a.m.
chet123 said...

REARDON....WHAT DO YOU MEAN HELP BLACK PEOPLE?????...I'M INDEPENDENT BUSINESS MAN.....I DONT ASK FOR HELP...JUST DONT WANT TO BE BLOCKED BY DOUBLE STANDARDS

AND WHY DO BIGOTRY WHITE PEOPLE FEAR SHARPTON Hmmmmm?..AND I'M NOT CALLING YOU A BIGOT, REARDON!....AND WHY DO YOU IMPLICATE HE SHOULD SHUT-UP????? WHY DO A CERTAIN SEGMENT WANT SHARPTON TO BE CENSORHmmmmm? IS IT BECAUSE HE EXPOSE LIES, INJUSTICE.....TELL ALL YOUR BUDDY WHO WANT TO SHUT SHARPTON UP.....TO STOP GIVING SHARPTON AMMUNITION TO GO AFTER THEM......

I DONT WANT TO EVER HEAR SHARPTON MOUTH....BUT THROUGH LIES ,SNEAKY HYPOCRISY THRU SOUTHERN BAPTIST CHURCH, BIGOTRY,INJUSTICE AND DOUBLE STANDARD...YOU GAVE AL SHARPTON BULLETS TO SHOOT YOU DOWN .....WHAT SHARPTON SAY IS ON THE MIND OF EVERY BLACK AMERICAN...WHETHER THEY SAY IT OR NOT....THEY USE SHARPTON BECAUSE SHARPTON IS INSTALLATED....HE DONT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT BEING FIRED AT WORK....OR LOSING HIS CLIENTS....HE CAN SPEAK FREELY

REARDON....YOU SAID JUSTICE WORK...IT DONT IF YOU DONT MAKE IT WORK!!! STATE ATTORNEY TRIED TO SWEEP THIS UNDER THE RUG.....AND I'M SURE THEY HAVE SWEPT A LARGE AMOUNT OF CRIME UNDER THE RUG

YOU SAID HAVE PATIENCE.....WOULD YOU SAY THAT IF IT WERE YOUR SON?????Hmmmmmmm?

March 29, 2012 at 10:56 a.m.
chet123 said...

HEY TIMBO.....YEP!....ONE THING FOR SURE I'M NOT LIVING IN YOUR SOUTHERN BAPTIST DELUSIONAL WORLD!....PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT

March 29, 2012 at 11:04 a.m.
chet123 said...

THIS FOOL THINK I'M SUPPOSE TO LIVE IN HIS DELUSIONAL WORLD HA HA HA HA HA

March 29, 2012 at 11:05 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

MTjohn: What support? Why do you make every issue partisan?

March 29, 2012 at 11:11 a.m.
chet123 said...

BLONDEBUTDUMB....DID YOU SAY DISGUSTING!DISGUISTING!...I WILL TELL YOU WHATS DISGUSTING....FOR A WOMAN LIKE YOU WHO BENEFITTING FROM THE CIVIL RIGHT MOVEMENT MORE THAN ANY OTHER GROUP TO HAVE THE GULL TO PROCLAIM TO BE A CONSERVATIVE....WHAT A BENEDICT ARNOLD YOU ARE...MIGHT AS WELL CALL YOURSELF JUDAS!!!....SO YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO PREGNANT AND BAREFOOTED....YOU ARE A DUMMY!

March 29, 2012 at 11:14 a.m.
chet123 said...

BLONDE...IF I WAS YOU....I WOULD JUST GOVERN MY WORD VERY CAREFULLY....YOU DONT HAVE A LEG TO STAND ON

March 29, 2012 at 11:16 a.m.
chet123 said...

JACK-DENNIS......YOU ENTER IN HERE TO POST....DONT QUESTION OTHER PEOPLE MOTIVE, BUDDY!

THIS ROOM START OFF WITH SHIFAROBE NAME CALLING...YOU DIDNT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT...OHHHHH OHHHHH....I FORGOT....YOU PRACTICE AND A BELEIVER OF DOUBLE STANDARDS HA HA HA HA HA HA

March 29, 2012 at 11:21 a.m.
ibshame said...

"timbo said... Anyone with any sense can figure this thing out for themselves."

You want to look at the facts? If the police or the state's attorney general had acted properly then the Chief of Police would not have had to step down nor would the original State's Attorney General. They didn't expect to have to put themselves through this so-called "liberal, racist meat grinder" because they thought once they said it was self-defense then the case would have been closed. And to be honest it would have been closed had it not been for the National Attention it finally got.

They weren't protecting Zimmerman. They were protecting the insane law that allowed Zimmerman to use a self-defense excuse. Why did the Chief of Police feel it necessary to leave his home on a Sunday night to go to the crime scene? Why did the original lead investigator feel at the very least Zimmerman should have been arrested and charged with manslaughter but the State's Attorney General told him to drop it?

You want to talk about Zimmerman's so-called injuries? How is it that on the video there is no evidence of any marks on his face(which Trayvon supposedly pummeled with his fists)nor are there marks on his CLEAN SHAVEN head (which Trayvon supposedly banged into the concrete sidewalk)? If Trayvon had him pinned down by putting his legs into Zimmerman's arms and then holding his hand across Zimmerman's mouth while he supposedly beat his face then how did Zimmerman manage to get to his HOLSTERED weapon?

Here's the bottom line. Zimmerman is not going to be convicted of anything. He will walk because there are no witnesses for Trayvon Martin. Zimmerman will tell his lies over and over again and because the police and the State's Attorney General did not do their jobs, he will walk. He will walk because JUDGE ZIMMERMAN will get his son the best attorney money can buy and the law is on his side. Not because George Zimmerman isn't guilty of cold bloodied murder but because the law allowed Zimmerman to kill Trayvon Martin.

For those of you who want to talk about the so-called lack of "black leadership" you are sadly mistaken. This is not 1955 when Young Emmit Till was killed but his killers were allowed to go free, This is not 1963 when Medgar Evers was shot and killed in his driveway but his killer was allowed to remain free and brag about killing him until 3 decades later he was finally brought to justice, this is not 1964 when 3 Civil Rights Workers were killed in Mississippi and their killers were allowed to go free, this is not 1968 when James Earl Ray took the life of Dr. Martin Luther King and somehow managed to get to London, England with an untold amount of money. It would be DISGUSTING if the "BLACK LEADERSHIP" didn't speak up.

March 29, 2012 at 11:22 a.m.
chet123 said...

THIS WHAT HAPPEN TO THE MIND WHEN YOU ONLY HEAR ONE SIDED AGUMENTS....CONDUCTED BY THE CONSERVATIVES......

March 29, 2012 at 11:23 a.m.
BobMKE said...

With 35 years in law enforcement I pass this on to everyone. You know what they say about ASSUME. Believe nothing of what you hear and only half of what you see. If something smells dig until you find the source of the smell or the truth. Who, what, where, when, and how. If you want justice go to the wh--e house. If you want to get screwed go to the courthouse.

March 29, 2012 at 11:24 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Chet: Nobody pulled your chain, Rube.

March 29, 2012 at 11:29 a.m.
chet123 said...

THIS IS WHY I STAY AWAY FOR DAYS.....THE SO-CALLED DEVOUT RIGHT-WING REPUBLICAN NUTS RUN FROM ME LIKE A SCARE RABBIT...I CRASH THEIR PARTY....THEY ARE LIKE ROACHES IN THE DARKNESS...CANT STAND LIGHT!.....I HAVE SOMETHING THEY HATE..FACTS

I HAVE TOLD THESE FOOLS OVER AND OVER THAT FOX TV DUMB THEM DOWN!!HA HA HA HA....THEY LIVE IN A VACCUM!!!IN A TINY BOX!THIS IS BECAUSE THEY DEEP DOWN INSIDE ARE COWARDS

YOU RIGHT-WING NUTS....I WILL BE HERE MOST OF THE DAY....LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU WILL DROP IN...I WILL B WAITING....IF YOU HAVE ANY COURAGE!!!! OR IS IT REALLY TRUE...YOU ARE JUST COWARDS

March 29, 2012 at 11:32 a.m.
chet123 said...

JACK-DENNIS....THATS PRETTY WEAK!!! LIKE YOU ARE!

DO YOUR LITTLE DRIVE-BY THEN TAKE OFF RUNNING....

I'LL JUST THROW YOU OUT TO MY FELLOW DEMOCRATS TO TAKE CARE OF...HA HA HA

March 29, 2012 at 11:35 a.m.
chet123 said...

BOBMIKE....YOU DONT LET THE SHOOTER GO HOME WITH HIS GUN..YOU DONT COVER UP EVIDENCE....I DONT CARE HOW MUCH SENORITY YOU HAVE SOMETHINGS ARE BASIC....

March 29, 2012 at 11:38 a.m.
chet123 said...

I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE!!!

THE RIGHT-WING REPUBLICAN CAN HIDE ALL THEY WANT....THIS IS THE TYPE OF WEASEL THEY ARE.....

FLOOD THE RADIO STATION TELLING LIES....24HR 7DAYS A WEEK PROPAGANDA THRU FOX TV.....BILLION OF DOLLARS INVESTED IN PUSHING LIES THRU MEDIA.....HUNDREDS OF RIGHT-WING REPUBLICAN THINK-TANKS SUCH AS CATO INSTITUTE,HERITAGE FOUNDATION,ECT....THOUSANDS OF HATE LINKS ON THE COMPUTERS.....BUT STILL CANT DEFEND THEIR ISSUES OR AGENDA ADEQUATELY

March 29, 2012 at 11:51 a.m.
chet123 said...

THEY KNOW THAT THEY ARE WRONG...I WANT EVERYBODY TO SEE THESE DEVILS.......

ALSO THE SOUTHERN BAPTIST CHURCH PRODUCE THESE WIMPS....THEY ALL GOOSE-STEP..SOUTHERN BAPTIST PREACH HATE....150YEARS AGO THEY WERE THE BIGGEST PROTECTOR OF THE PLANTATION OWNER WHO ADVOCATED SLAVERY.NOW THEY PROTECTING THE RICH AND GREEDY ...DID THEY THINK AFTER YEARS THE PEOPLE WOULDNT GET ON TO THEIR SCHEME...THEY ALL AGREE WITH EACH OTHER LIE....SO WHEN THEY ARE COMFORTED WITH A STRONG DEMOCRAT LIKE ME I KNOCK THEM OFF BALANCE......THEY HAVENT BEEN SCRIPTED....THEY DONT HAVE ANYTHING IN THEIR LITTLE REPUBLICAN PLAY-BOOK...HA HA HA HA

March 29, 2012 at 12:01 p.m.
MTJohn said...

Jack_Dennis said...MTjohn: What support? Why do you make every issue partisan?

Except to blame the President for trying to make this a partisan issue and to defend pro-gun laws, the silence from the right is deafening.

March 29, 2012 at 12:04 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Chet: I was taught never to challenge a rider in the short-bus. I WILL say, tho, that you represent the left well.

March 29, 2012 at 12:07 p.m.
chet123 said...

OOGA...REPUBLICAN ARE COWARDS.....MOST OF THESE REPUBLICAN POSTERS ARE OLD PEOPLE...THEY HAVE NEVER ATTEND SCHOOL WITH BLACKS...NO BLACK NEIGHBORS....ONLY WHITE CHURCH WITH A FEW BLACK TOKENS....HAVE NEVER HADD A BLACK BOSS....THIS IS NEW TO THEM.....A BLACK MAN FACING THEM OFF HA HA HA....I BET THEY LOOSE SLEEP AT NITE..HA HA HA HA HA....NEVER HAD A BLACK MAN TO TALK BACK...HA HA HA HA....A BLACK MAN THAT KNOWS HISTORY HA HA HA HA...A BLACK MAN THAT KNOW THE CONSTISTUTION , LAW, POLITIC AND PRUDENT IN THE BIBLE.....THEY RUN OFF!

March 29, 2012 at 12:08 p.m.
chet123 said...

TO MY RIGHT WING NUTS REPUBLICANS....I'M FIRST AN AMERICAN....A PROUD AMERICAN....A DEMOCRAT....PARTY FOR THE PEOPLE...NOT THE RICH AND GREEDY HA HA HA

March 29, 2012 at 12:10 p.m.
mymy said...

Regardless of time/opportunities Blacks refused to assimilate. They are their own worst enemy as long as they continue to listen to the “black leadership” which has only their own self-interest at heart not theirs. You can start at the top: Obama, Black caucus, Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton, media and yes the one and only TFP and their local mouthpieces including Clay, etc.

Just think how different things could be without their brainwashing their own.

March 29, 2012 at 12:13 p.m.
chet123 said...

StrongNO BEEF WITH YOU JACK-DENNIS...HAVE A GOOD DAY!!

THERE SOME SMART A** THATS CONSTANTLY BULLYING PEOPLE AND LYING ON HERE WITHOUT A CHALLENGE....BUT WHEN THEY SEE ME THEY TAKE OFF RUNNING LIKE A LITTLE GIRL.

March 29, 2012 at 12:14 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Chet. Yes, you've very imposing.

March 29, 2012 at 12:17 p.m.
chet123 said...

I BEEN HERE FOR 4HRS...WAITING ON THE BIG BAD RIGHT-WING HATERS WHO HAVE THE COURAGE....I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE.......

March 29, 2012 at 12:19 p.m.
chet123 said...

MYMY....GLAD TO HEAR YOU HAVE MY BEST INTEREST..HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA H A HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

SO YOU KNOW WHATS GOOD FOR ME.HA HA HA HA....THIS IS ONE EXAMPLE OF A BRAZEN YELLOW BELLY COWARD.....YEAH MYMY....I TELL YOU WHAT....LET'S MAKE A DEAL!...

I WILL GO INTO THE UNDERCLASS BLACK NEIGBORHOOD OF CHATTANOOGA WHERE SINGLE MOTHER RULES....IF YOU GO UP IN THE MOUNTAIN WHERE PEOPLE DONT HAVE RUNNING WATER OR SEWAGE, AND THE AREA OF 41HYW IN NORTH GEORGIA WHERE THERE ARE TRAILER HOMES NOT FIT ON A DOG TO LIVE IN...AND THE SODDY AND PIKEVILLE AREA WHERE WHITE UNDER-CLASS NEVER FINISH HIGH SCHOOL(TV TRY TO SWEEP THOSE AREA UNDER THE RUGS)

YOU AND I WILL DO SOME ASSIMILATION...SEE WHAT LUCK YOU AND I HAVE ADJUSTING THE HILLBILLY AND HOMEY FROM THEIR SUB-CULTURE

I'M ALL FOR THAT MYMY

NOW REMEMBER YOU AND I MAY GET SOME PUSH-BACK!!!I HEARD THOSE BOYS UP IN THE HILLS CARRIES BIG GUNS....THEY HAVE ALWAYS HAD SHOOT TO KILL UNWRITTEN LAWS THERE....I GUESS YOU CAN CALL IT STAND YOUR GROUND LAW HA HA HA....GOOD LUCK TO YOU MYMY..IF SOMETHING HAPPEN TO YOU...I WILL CONTACT YOUR NEXT OF KIN.

March 29, 2012 at 12:42 p.m.
chet123 said...

NEXT TIME I NEED INFORMATION ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE I WILL GO TALK WITH MYMY.....

YOU SEE MYMY IS A CERTIFIED EOBPTHATS "EXPERT ON BLACK PEOPLE"! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAH A

March 29, 2012 at 12:45 p.m.
chet123 said...

WHAT AN IDIOT.....THIS BOY GOT TO BE SOUTHERN BAPTIST..HA HA HA HA

March 29, 2012 at 12:46 p.m.
chet123 said...

MYMY HAVE NERVE TO TALK ABOUT BRAINWASHING.....NOW THIS GOMER WATCHES FOX TV 24/7.....LISTEN TO RUSH LIMBAUGH ON RADIO....AND HE CANT SEE HE IS PASSED BRAINWASHING......HES JUST A PUPPET DANGLING BY THE STRINGS OF THE RICH AND GREEDY..HA HA HA HA...BUT DONT TELL THIS PEA BRAIN THAT.

March 29, 2012 at 12:58 p.m.
limric said...

Ibshame,

You seem to have all the facts; Along with a heaping bowl of supposition. Accused the shooter of lying and by your reasoning will ‘walk’ because he isn't guilty of cold bloodied murder but because a law (that you don’t happen to agree with) allowed Zimmerman to kill Trayvon Martin. You and the so called black leadership then thrown down the race victimization card. Instead of Trayvon being a 17 year old boy that was shot and killed, it has become Trayvon was a 17 year old black kid that was shot and killed – by WHITEY. Putting emphasis on race and differences is dividing in nature.

I find it interesting that charlatans like Sharpton, Jackson et al fight vigorously for color blindness…unless they can use race for victimization and self-promotion. And nary anyone sees the irony of their actions.

49 percent of U.S. murder victims are black, over 95 percent of them killed by other blacks. The biggest killer of young black males is other young black males. More than 2000 whites are murdered by blacks each year. Blacks murder whites at 18 times the rate whites murder blacks. 90% of the victims of race crimes are whites. Blacks commit 7.5 times more violent interracial crimes than whites, although they comprise only one-seventh of the white population. But the need to focus on one black guy killed by a half-white man (notice how I threw race in there too) is hailed as the rise of the Confederacy all over again. Oh, and did I mention that (in my opinion) the Black Panthers call for justice is a camouflaged call for --- wait for it --- a lynching! Oh the Irony!

You’re right, this is not 1955 or 1963 or 1964, stop acting like it is. Comparing this case to dates past doesn’t warrant comparison. You have fallen right in to their race baiting trap. It helps no one. Let’s stick to evidence and logic. Not Monday morning quarter backing.

Sorry Chet, I just had to throw the video in. It pretty much sums up the enraged masses(well not really) but it’s funny as hell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGBw8jS3sMw

March 29, 2012 at 1:06 p.m.
chet123 said...

LIMRIC......GIVE ME ABOUT 30MIN...IM BUSY....I WILL EAT YOUR LUNCH

March 29, 2012 at 1:11 p.m.
chet123 said...

LIMRIC...IM BACK...ARE YOU HERE

March 29, 2012 at 1:42 p.m.
mtngrl said...

JonRoss said...

Just google "seneca six men" and you will see why Obama and Bennett are dishonest and hate filled.

Google instantly shows those men were arrested and charged, unlike Zimmerman. Says nothing about President Obama or Bennett.

March 29, 2012 at 1:42 p.m.
limric said...

JonRoss,

Dude. WTF does that have to do with this case, Obama or Clay Bennett? NOTHING!!
MickeyRat is right, you're crazy man - crazy.

March 29, 2012 at 1:43 p.m.
chet123 said...

LIMRIC....IF YOU WANT SERIOUS DIALOGUE.THEN YOU MUST BE HONEST....EVENTHOUGH IF YOU ARE INCORRECT AND DONT KNOW IT ..I WILL GIVE YOU RESPECT....BUT IF YOU ARE ON HERE LYING AND MAKING UP FACTS...PLAYNIG GAMES.....YOU WILL LOOSE MY RESPECT AND I WILL SHOOT FROM THE HIPS WITH ALL MY ANSWERS....

ANOTHER THING...I DONT WATCH VIDEO ON HERE...SO DONT SEND THEM.....THERE ARE TOO MANY PHONIES LIKE FOX TV THAT HAVE NO CREDIBILITY ..THEY ARE JUST A REPUBLICAN HEADQUARTER.....

March 29, 2012 at 1:49 p.m.
chet123 said...

LIMRIC....WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING A 27YEAR OLD MAN THAT WEIGHT BETWEEN 240 AND 250 AGAINST A 17YEAR OLD BOY WHO WEIGHT 150LBS SOAK AND WET....YOU DONT EVEN START YOUR AGUMENT OFF MAKING ANY SENSE LIMRIC

March 29, 2012 at 1:55 p.m.
timbo said...

ibshame......So it is just what I thought...a backhanded way to get to gun control. Yea, I am glad someone finally admitted it.

All of your "facts" and the "lies" that you say Zimmerman told are backed up by eyewitnesses. Sometimes they aren't that reliable but with police they carry a lot of weight.

The reason there shouldn't be a trial, is that the evidence not only suggests he acted in self-defense, it also suggests that the state can't get a conviction. They are avoiding millions of dollars being spent to appease paranoid black people and the poverty pimps they call leaders.

I would suggest the black community should shut up and not end up being embarrassed like they were in the Twana Briley and Duke Lacrosse cases. I will just bet that there will be more unflattering information coming out about Martin that might just show what a thug whannabee he really was.

March 29, 2012 at 2:08 p.m.
chet123 said...

THIS YOUNG MAN LIVE IN A FREE COUNTRY,,,,,,,I HVE SAID VERY LITTLE ABOUT ZIMMERMAN....I THINK THE REAL CRIMINALS ARE THE LAW ENFORCERSS......THEY LET ZIMMERMAN GO WITH EVIDENCE AND HIS GUN.....

March 29, 2012 at 2:10 p.m.
MTJohn said...

JonRoss said...Just google "seneca six men" and you will see why Obama and Bennett are dishonest and hate filled.

Interesting analogy with one critical difference. The seneca six were arrested and charged with a crime.

March 29, 2012 at 2:14 p.m.
limric said...

Look Chet, I'm not "making up facts".?!? Hmm,"making up facts" isn't that an oxymoron? Or does the GOP hold the copyright to that. ;-) They facts are what they are.

The inflammatory rhetoric emanating from the likes of Sharpton,Jackson,Lee,Congressman Rush and especially the Black Panthers is throwing victimization card and is race baiting, pure and simple. Buy and large, they are a huge disservice to people of color. You know it and I know it. Anything even remotely like this reaction should the roles be reversed would create a firestorm across the country and would NOT BE TOLERATED!! Again,You know it and I know it. Is it a good thing that Sharpton uncovered where Trayvon was? Yes of course. But what followed, and continues is nothing more than mob mentality. Is it not that far removed from the disgusting mobs of the deep south 50 years ago?

By the way, the video isn't from FAUX News, it's Garret Morris from SNL a long long time ago.

March 29, 2012 at 2:16 p.m.
chet123 said...

TIMBO...YOU ARE THE REASON I'M AGAINST THIS GUN LAW......YOU TOO COWARD TO FIGHT A MAN ON EQUAL TERM.....YOU WILL USE YOUR FIRE ARM AND EXPECT YOUR FRIENDLY POLICE WHO HAPPEN TO BE A MEMBER OF YOUR SOUTHERN BAPTIST CHURCH TO LET YOU GO HOME WITHOUT AN ARREST

March 29, 2012 at 2:18 p.m.
chet123 said...

WHY DO YOU FEAR SHARPTON....IF THIS CASE HAD BEEN HANDLE CORRECTLY THERE WOULD BE NO SHARPTON............THIS IS OUR PROBLEM LIMRIC...YOU DONT HAVE A DOG IN THE FIGHT....MANY BLACK FOR YEARS HAVE KNOWN THAT THE NRA(GUNS MANUFACTURES) IS GETTING RICH FEEDING HATE TO RIGHT-WING NUTS WITH FEAR AGAINST BLACK PEOPLE.THIS IS BLOOD MONEY.....

March 29, 2012 at 2:26 p.m.
ibshame said...

"limric said...

You seem to have all the facts; Along with a heaping bowl of supposition. Accused the shooter of lying and by your reasoning will ‘walk’ because he isn't guilty of cold bloodied murder but because a law (that you don’t happen to agree with) allowed Zimmerman to kill Trayvon Martin. You and the so called black leadership then thrown down the race victimization card. Instead of Trayvon being a 17 year old boy that was shot and killed, it has become Trayvon was a 17 year old black kid that was shot and killed – by WHITEY. Putting emphasis on race and differences is dividing in nature....You’re right, this is not 1955 or 1963 or 1964, stop acting like it is. Comparing this case to dates past doesn’t warrant comparison. You have fallen right in to their race baiting trap. It helps no one. Let’s stick to evidence and logic."

No, I don't have ALL the facts just the ones that have already been put out there. It would seem no one has ALL the facts except the one who did the killing and the one who got killed. One of them can speak the other one cannot.

Now as to whether or not Zimmerman is lying, yes, in my opinion he is lying and he has lied from the very beginning. How can one STAND HIS GROUND if he is in pursuit of someone? As for your so-called "race victimization" claim it became such when Zimmerman made his racial slur and then proceeded to kill Trayvon Williams.

You are wrong when you say there is no comparison between the cases in the 60's and the Trayvon Martin case. Each of those cases shone a NATIONAL SPOTLIGHT on the impact how years of living with unjust Jim Crow laws had made it all but impossible for the killing of a Black man by a White to be considered a crime. Even when it involved the killing of a 14yr old boy for whistling at a White woman or a decorated war veteran who returned home from fighting overseas to try and bring those same ideals he had fought for home to Mississippi by registering others to vote.

The case of Trayvon Martin has shone a spotlight on a screwed up law that allows any idiot who can have legal access to a gun to commit murder in the name of self-defense. The fact Zimmerman this particular idiot used a racial slur before he killed Trayvon Martin is what made this a racial incident.

As for your statistics concerning the fact more Blacks kill Blacks than Whites that kill Blacks you are probably right. As for the rest of your statistics, they are suspect.

March 29, 2012 at 2:26 p.m.
limric said...

Jesus Chet. I am not defending Zimmerman. I am not judging Martin. I am merely pointing out the fact that Zimmerman has been adjudicated guilty with out one iota (at this time)of evidence that he committed a crime. I am in no way marginalizing the death of a 17 year old kid. I'm just not going to pass judgement without more information.

I stand by my previous statement: "These people exploit race and hate for self-promotion whenever possible. The facts be damned. And where they see race, they WILL cultivate anger and hate." You can justify all of the anger surrounding this case with all the history you want. That dog don't hunt anymore. The inflammatory rhetoric emanating from the likes of Sharpton,Jackson,Lee,Congressman Rush and especially the Black Panthers are playing you just like Ivan Pavlov's 'conditioned reflex's of the last century. I don't like it anymore than you but it is what it is.

March 29, 2012 at 2:35 p.m.
chet123 said...

AND YOU TALK ABOUT THE BLACK PANTHER....SO THE 1,000'S OF WHITE MILITIA CAN HAVE GUNS...THATS OK....I DONT SEE ANY RAID BUSTING UP THOSE GROUPS....YOU KEEP SILENCE ABOUT THEM.....LET ME SAY THIS....IF THE ROLE HAD BEEN REVERSE(EVENTHOUGH ZIMMERMAN WAS HISPANIC)....A MOB WOULD HAVE MARTIN GOING TO PRISON FOR LIFE OR THE ELECTRIC CHAIR

March 29, 2012 at 2:35 p.m.
chet123 said...

SORRY LIMRIC.....ZIMMERMAN WAS FREE...WHEN HE SHOULDNT BEEN.....LIMRIC...LISTEN TO THESE HATER ON HERE..THIS IS A MICROCOSMIC OF THE REAL WORLD....SOME OF THESE NUTS ARE IN AUTHORITY.....HA HA HA HA

March 29, 2012 at 2:40 p.m.
ibshame said...

"timbo said... ibshame......So it is just what I thought...a backhanded way to get to gun control. Yea, I am glad someone finally admitted it.

All of your "facts" and the "lies" that you say Zimmerman told are backed up by eyewitnesses. Sometimes they aren't that reliable but with police they carry a lot of weight.

The reason there shouldn't be a trial, is that the evidence not only suggests he acted in self-defense, it also suggests that the state can't get a conviction. They are avoiding millions of dollars being spent to appease paranoid black people and the poverty pimps they call leaders.

I would suggest the black community should shut up and not end up being embarrassed like they were in the Twana Briley and Duke Lacrosse cases. I will just bet that there will be more unflattering information coming out about Martin that might just show what a thug whannabee he really was."

First I don't have any problems with a person carrying a gun if they feel the need to have it for protection. You keep talking about Zimmerman's witnesses but so far only one person has come forward for Zimmerman to say he saw what happened and he only came forward a week ago. If someone's story is NOT that RELIABLE in the case of a homicide then the police should not give ANY weight to the story at all.

The whole purpose of a TRIAL is for a jury of his PEERS to decide whether or not he acted in Self-Defense after listening or seeing whatever evidence has been gathered. The problem in this case is that the sorry police chief and the even sorrier State Attorney General didn't bother to let a Grand jury consider the case. They made the decision and as far as they were concerned it was enough, but it wasn't. AS for you trying to demonize Trayvon Martin by making him out to be some kind of thug, you don't have a damn clue as to what you are talking about. You've seen some pictures of him with some of his friends holding up his hands and you automatically ASSUME he must be a thug. There are thousands of kids who make pictures like that everyday to impress their friends on Facebook but the reality is this: About 90% of them have no clue about what they are doing and if caught on the street by REAL GANG-BANGERS would probably get their heads cracked.

March 29, 2012 at 2:45 p.m.
chet123 said...

WHERE WAS OBAMA???DO THIS FOOL BELEIVE OBAMA DID IT....WHY DID HE SAY WHERES OBAMA..WHERE WERE YOU????

March 29, 2012 at 2:45 p.m.
limric said...

I am not going to play the guilty by court of public opinion game. Not in this case.

Many will disagree with me, but I think 'Stand your Ground' is good law. Lets see where this case goes.

March 29, 2012 at 2:53 p.m.
chet123 said...

LIMRIC...I STAND BY MY WORDS....ANY MAN WHO WONT PROTECT HIS FAMILY IS WORSE THAN A HEATHERN(bible)..THIS IS NOT YOUR FIGHT LIMRIC...YOU ARE INJECTING YOURSELF INTO AN ISSUE THAT DONT CONCERN YOU LIMRIC

March 29, 2012 at 2:54 p.m.
limric said...

Sh*t JonRoss. STFU. You are truly deranged. But pretty funny in your nuttiness.

Is Obama a Cylon? I'm sure you must know the answer to that.

March 29, 2012 at 2:58 p.m.
limric said...

Ok Chet.

March 29, 2012 at 2:59 p.m.
chet123 said...

I'M BACK...I CAN NOW POST WITHOUT DISTUBANCE..

LORD HAVE MERCY...HERE GOES TIMBO WITH HIS FALSE ANALOGY....THIS CLOWN ALWAYS COMPARE APPLE AND ORANGES....EVEN WITH FRUIT THIS CLOWN DONT KNOW HOW TO BE FAIR

HEY TIMBO....I BOTH OF THOSE CASES...DID ANYONE GO TO PRISON OR GET THE DEATH PENALTY.....YOU JUST MADE MY POINT DUMB-BUTT

March 29, 2012 at 3 p.m.
jesse said...

HEY LIMRIC!! You cannot reason w/chet!He is bat sh*t crazy!periot! and if you just HAVE to try then use words of no more than one syb.

March 29, 2012 at 3:02 p.m.
chet123 said...

THE RIGHT-WING NUTS ARE AFRAID OF AL SHARPTON.....IS IT BECAUSE AL SHARPTON HAVE A MEGAPHONE SPEAKER TO SOUND AROUND THE WORLD....AND THE GOOD OLE BOYS WHO ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT FREE SPEECH ARE ASHAME OF THEIR ROLE THEY PLAYED THRU NRA, SHOOT TO KILL LAWS,BIAS POLICE DEPT,THE SOUTHERN BAPTIST CHURCH..WHOM GOT NERVE TO TRY TO PREACH TO MUSLIM, Hmmmm? SHHHHH! DONT TELL ANYONE? I HOPE SHARPTON MAKE IT A DAILY MISSION....LET THE WORLD KNOW WHAT HATERS WE REALLY HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY....CHILD MURDERS...AND I DONT MEAN ZIMMERMAN....I THINK ZIMMERMAN WAS CRAZY....BUT SOUTHERN BAPTIST CHURCH ,FOX TV, REPUBLICAN RIGHT-WING NUTS ARE HATERS

March 29, 2012 at 3:17 p.m.
chet123 said...

SHHHHHHH! LOOK OUT FOR THOSE BLACK LEADERS......SHHHHHHH! WHO DO THEY THINK THEY ARE.....CONTROLING THEIR OWN AGENDA??? HOW DARE THEM....TRUST IN GOOD WHITE LEADERS....DICK CHANEY NEWT GINGRICH, JOHN BOEHNER..HA HA HA

March 29, 2012 at 3:21 p.m.
chet123 said...

REASON WITH JESSE HA HA HA HA...SOMEONE RUN A TRACK ON THIS BOZO.....THINK I'M GOING TO REASON WITH THAT??? HA HA HA HA

March 29, 2012 at 3:23 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

My guess is that Chet is a stoolie for TFP.

March 29, 2012 at 3:29 p.m.
Welcome_2 said...

Instead of picking sides and ripping one another to shreds you all should be grateful this Zimmerman person will likely be stopped before becoming a cop. That's what it seems he was preparing himself for. I read somewhere recently he'd already attempted this while living in Virigina, but was turned down. Somewhere like Florica, and God forbid Georgia and Tenessee, they're not as in dept and serious about screening out potentially dangerous hotheads.

March 29, 2012 at 3:37 p.m.
chet123 said...

FOX TV....HAVE POSITION THEMSELF AS A CHILD KILLER DEFEDER....THESE MORONS ARE HATER TV

March 29, 2012 at 3:42 p.m.
chet123 said...

IM NOT A CHILD KILLER

March 29, 2012 at 3:46 p.m.
chet123 said...

ZIMMERMAN MAY BE AN UP GRADE COMPARED TO WHAT WE HVE IN TN,ALA,GA

March 29, 2012 at 3:47 p.m.
nurseforjustice said...

chet, have you ever heard of the old saying: It is better to be thought a fool then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

If you want someone to take you seriously, you should first turn off the CAPS. IT IS REALLY HARD TO READ WHEN SOMEONE TYPES IN ALL CAPS. Second, learn how to converse with people without calling names and stop talking about the Southern Baptist Church. No one cares about that. Third, not everyone on here stays on here all day. Most of us work and pop in every now and then to see what all is said. Like me for instance. I just popped in about 30 min ago to read the postings and see most of them are yours. And when I see they are yours I mostly just scan them to see if you said anything that made sense. I am sure that most on here do the same regarding you. And now I am popping out to go home and have a real life so I won't be on here again until tomorrow.

Get a grip son. This story has nothing to do with you either. Everyone is welcome to express their opinion unless it disagrees with you, right?

Limric, We don't usually see eye to eye but you are spot on today. Thanks for the information.

March 29, 2012 at 4 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Holdout said: "I believe that he will be indicted, tried, convicted and serve time. The so called shoddy Police investigation will be what puts him there."

I’ve read numerous reports that say the lead homicide investgaor, Chris Serino, filed an affidavit on the night of the incident saying that he was not convinced by Zimmerman’s account and felt that Zimmerman should be charged with manuslaughter, but the state attorney, Norm Wolfinger, said that there was not enough evidence to do so. As such, Chief Lee and Capt. Robert O'Connor reportedly decided to release George Zimmerman without charges.

March 29, 2012 at 4:09 p.m.
Reardon said...

I understand, Chet -- but the reverse is true, too.

What if you really were defending yourself and a sea of people across the nation wanted to lynch you?

The problem with Sharpton and Jackson is that -- while they've shed light on the case -- if this case does go to a jury, who's not going to have heard about it already?

Chet -- is your caps lock button stuck?

March 29, 2012 at 4:14 p.m.
potcat said...

God damn limric, i am shocked!!! I know you are from Florida, but you are saying, we don't know the FACTS.

March 29, 2012 at 4:34 p.m.
limric said...

Umm Potcat, I'm not following you. Please explain.

March 29, 2012 at 4:47 p.m.
chatt_man said...

CHET states earlier in this post "I'M INDEPENDENT BUSINESS MAN". My guess is he's a Southern Baptist English tutor.

March 29, 2012 at 4:51 p.m.
whatsnottaken said...

One problem now is that the two reverends (I use that term loosely) cry for justice while fanning the flames of hatred. Al lost all credibility over Tawana years ago; Jesse just shows up wherever there's a camera to whip folks into a frenzy. Let's see where the process goes before we start killing each other over this. How many killings of whites, blacks, reds, yellows and so on have there been since this one. But this is the better photo-op for the reverends and their posses, so this is where our firestorm is this week.

March 29, 2012 at 4:56 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Ibshame said: “So far only one person has come forward for Zimmerman to say he saw what happened and he only came forward a week ago.”

If you are referencing the witness that claims he saw Martin and Zimmerman fighting, I had some difficulty sorting out what he says was going on with the description of what Zimmerman says occurred. According to this witness:

“The guy on the bottom, who had a red sweater on, was yelling to me, 'Help! Help!' and I told him to stop, and I was calling 911...And then, when I got upstairs and looked down, the guy who was on the top beating up the other guy, was the one laying in the grass, and I believe he was dead at that point."

If this is the case, one wonders how Zimmerman who was suppose to be on the bottom managed to shoot Martin. Had Zimmerman already pulled his gun? If not, where was his gun when the two were fighting? If Zimmerman had already pulled his gun, Martin must have been fully aware that Zimmerman had the gun. In addition, one also wonders why Zimmerman opted to shoot Martin at this point since the witness had alerted both that he was calling 911.

Whatever happened must have occurred rather quickly after this point since the witness says: “When I got upstairs and looked down, the guy who was on the top beating up the other guy, was the one laying in the grass, and I believe he was dead at that point."

March 29, 2012 at 4:57 p.m.
Livn4life said...

Thanks for all the postings to once more show how divided we are as a nation. Thanks for that showing the weakening of the greatness that once represented our country. Thanks for taking one side and not having the brains or guts to truly be objective!

March 29, 2012 at 5:01 p.m.
potcat said...

Maybe you need to go back and read your previous post.

March 29, 2012 at 5:18 p.m.
potcat said...

Has anyone on here been bucked off a Horse. My Stupid ASS Brother and family was going riding, my horse was Rosie and i fed her an apple and thought every was going to be fine.

I was the first to saddle up and my stupidAss brother slapped her on the ass and said get, she took off like a bat out of hell and i fell off. I'm in sooo much pain, i almost want to end it . Broke ribs, neck, back and am black and blue, oh did i mention my neck. And dig this sh.. every one doesn't want me to me to take Pain Pills, yeah right.

March 29, 2012 at 5:31 p.m.
timbo said...

inshame ......where I come from gangbangers would last about 5 seconds.

March 29, 2012 at 5:33 p.m.
timbo said...

Chet123......why would anyone be afraid of a loud mouth little piss ant like you?

March 29, 2012 at 5:37 p.m.
joneses said...

Did you people hear what Obama wanted to do today? He wanted to raise the price of a gallon of gas by raising through higher taxes on the oil companies their cost of doing business. Lucky for America about 5 or 6 Democrats in the Democrat controlled Senate saw that this would raise the price of gas and voted against this foolish bill. Obama claimed the oil companies ere making to much profits. Someone needs to tell this idiot Obama that private company profits are none of his business. if he wanted to lower their profits then why does he not stop initiating policies that increase the price of gas? Obama is that stupid. Because fools like Clay Bennett has most of you so enamored with the unfortunate incident between a hispanic man and another teenage black kid you did not even know Obama wanting to raise the price of gas was being voted on in the Senate. Stop letting these liberals steer you away form this presidents failures. We that believe in freedom in America need to focus on Obama's failures regardless of what Bennet and the liberals want to hide.

March 29, 2012 at 5:57 p.m.
limric said...

Ohhkay Potcat. Let me decipher your 4:34 post. You're shocked that I think we don't know all the we need to know about this case. Am I correct? Do you really believe we have enough information and are in a position to make a judgement call? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

March 29, 2012 at 6:20 p.m.
potcat said...

I most certianling do, what the hell else do you need to know. It was a Murder of a young 18yr old black boy.

Decipher all you want too and be a smartAss about it, you don't understand, thats your f...... problem!!!

March 29, 2012 at 6:39 p.m.
potcat said...

And another thing I'm sick of the bullsh.. that you don't understand what i am saying is getting real old. If you can't understand the fu.... gist, and you do. Quit playing i am smarter than you and don't understand, you KNOW exactly what i'm saying, so knock off the superiority.

March 29, 2012 at 7:15 p.m.
potcat said...

And while i am on a tanget, i may as well say it. I can't work and my internet will be cut off, i don't even know how we are going to make it, we live paycheck to paycheck. So f... you!!!

March 29, 2012 at 7:24 p.m.
jesse said...

i think potcat is chet writing in lower case letters!!lol!

March 29, 2012 at 7:36 p.m.
potcat said...

Chet knows more in is little finger than you jess, just because we are dfferent and have NOT learned how to debate means not a thing. Chet is as relevant on this thread as you are AssWipe, you never say any thing. Bring It !!!

March 29, 2012 at 7:50 p.m.
dude_abides said...

timbo said... inshame ......where I come from gangbangers would last about 5 seconds.

LOL! Everybody I've ever heard talk that crap turns out to be nothing but talk. Tell me, was everybody 'where you come from' genetically predisposed to be bad a$$es? Were they all bulletproof? If we had only known we could have had them clean out Cabrini Green! I just visualize a town full of Cro-Magnon foreheads walking around waiting to kill something. Hirsute individuals with attached earlobes and little strings of saliva far enough out from the corners of their mouths so as to be, surely to God, sensated. Then, of course, there are the men.

March 29, 2012 at 7:56 p.m.
patriot1 said...

I really enjoy reading Chet's posts....they are the epitome of the liberal position. I do think however with the "all caps" he must be suffering from "Angry Napoleonic Syndrome."

March 29, 2012 at 8:53 p.m.
potcat said...

Who the hell is not Angry if you are not angry something is wrong with you.

I want the Hedge Funders and all of WallStreet in JAIL. It hasn't happened, does that tell you anything.

March 29, 2012 at 9:15 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Limric said: “Many will disagree with me, but I think 'Stand your Ground' is good law. Lets see where this case goes.”

Well, Limric, put my name on the list of those that disagree with you. As it currently stands, I think Florida’s “Stand your Ground” law is just plain insane. I’ve definitely scratched the State of Florida from my list of potential vacation spots - how can anyone relax and have fun with all of those gunslingers walking around looking for trouble? No, I think their "S.Y.G" law is an open invitation for more sad tragic incidences like the Trayvon Martin case. There are just too many potential scenarios where this law could be easily abused.

March 29, 2012 at 10:26 p.m.
BobMKE said...

To everyone on this posting site. I HIGHLY suggest that all of you read Dr. Wayne W. Dyer's book "Excuses Begone." This book will change your life and if you are older have your children and grandchildren read it. This is a gift you can give to them so they don't play the, If I coulda, shoulda game. If the posters on this site read this outstanding book there would not be any more hateful, vicious posts that have affective this site.

March 29, 2012 at 11:55 p.m.
potcat said...

Boobmike, dream on. I have plenty of books i could suggest you read, but wouldn't. Excuses and trying to justify is a no brainer. Facts are the only way to go.

March 30, 2012 at 4:50 a.m.
joneses said...

Did you people hear what Obama wanted to do yesterday? He wanted to raise the price of a gallon of gas by raising through higher taxes on the oil companies their cost of doing business. Lucky for America about 5 or 6 Democrats in the Democrat controlled Senate saw that this would raise the price of gas and voted against this foolish bill. Obama claimed the oil companies ere making to much profits. Someone needs to tell this idiot Obama that private company profits are none of his business. if he wanted to lower their profits then why does he not stop initiating policies that increase the price of gas? Obama is that stupid. Because fools like Clay Bennett has most of you so enamored with the unfortunate incident between a hispanic man and another teenage black kid you did not even know Obama wanting to raise the price of gas was being voted on in the Senate. Stop letting these liberals steer you away form this presidents failures. We that believe in freedom in America need to focus on Obama's failures regardless of what Bennet and the liberals want to hide.

March 30, 2012 at 6 a.m.
joneses said...

A liberals. You better get downtown and real your black followers back in as they are out of line with your agenda. The black leaders are calling Littlefield a racist for moving the Bessie Smith Strut from MLK Blvd. Everyone knows Littlefield is a liberal. How are you going to get these black leaders back on your liberal racist plantation? It is very entertaining watching blacks calling a liberal a racist. You better fix these black leaders as they are starting to think for themselves and everyone knows you cannot have that.

March 30, 2012 at 6:05 a.m.
joneses said...

Would someone tell me why the media, Al Sharpton and Jesse jackson did no show up about the unfotunate incident between this Zimmerman guy and this Martin kid? My guess is Obama was getting way to much negative attention on his failed energy policy the liberal media had to come up with a distraction and this is all they had.

March 30, 2012 at 6:25 a.m.
joneses said...

More accurate editied version

Would someone tell me why the media, Al Sharpton and Jesse jackson did no show up about the unfotunate incident between this Zimmerman guy and this Martin kid until 3 weeks after it happened? My guess is Obama was getting way to much negative attention on his failed energy policy the liberal media had to come up with a distraction and this is all they had.

March 30, 2012 at 6:42 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Ibshame said: “How can one STAND HIS GROUND if he is in pursuit of someone?”

I read a good commentary by a retired judge who brings up the “aggressor” provision in Florida’s law. Like you, he points out there was no objective or reasonable basis to suspect Martin of any illegal or wrongful activity, except possibly “walking while black,” and that according to Florida’s “SYG” law, Zimmerman was the real “aggressor” in this case:

“What has been totally ignored in this discussion is the statutory provision regarding "aggressors," which Zimmerman clearly was. None of this would have happened if he had followed the dispatcher's instructions and not chased after Trayvon. Under the Florida statute the defense of justification "is not available to a person who initially provokes the use of force against him," unless the initial aggressor clearly retreats or withdraws and the assailant continues nonetheless. Can there be any doubt as to who provoked this chain of events? . . .

How could the police possibly conclude that there was no evidence to rebut Zimmerman's claim of self-defense in the face of these undisputed facts? It may well be that Trayvon was beating Zimmerman because Trayvon was in fear for his own life. Is there any evidence that Trayvon would have attacked Zimmerman but for Zimmerman's conduct? I concede that there is a factual dispute as to whether (as Zimmerman claims), Trayvon attacked him after Zimmerman had turned away and was heading back to his vehicle. But that suspect contention has to be weighed against the undisputed facts that Trayvon did not attack Zimmerman when he was chasing him, but supposedly followed him back to his vehicle and suddenly attacked him when he withdrew.

When Zimmerman first displayed his weapon is also critical but unknown at this juncture. Those final moments may be in dispute, but nothing leading up to it is. In essence, Zimmerman and apparently the police claim that the self-defense available to him under the statute is not available to Trayvon, although Zimmerman was clearly the initial aggressor. Mr. Zimmerman is entitled to the presumption of innocence and the opportunity to be heard, but he is not entitled to be exonerated without charges and whatever further process is warranted following those charges.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/judge-h-lee-sarokin/trayvon-martin-could-have_b_1383452.html?ref=trayvon-martin

March 30, 2012 at 8:15 a.m.
hambone said...

Same ol' posters with the same B.S posting over and over. Multiple post by the same posters arguing back and forth.

Why can't you people get a life.

March 30, 2012 at 9:12 a.m.
timbo said...

dude_abides....I am sure a metro sexual like yourself would have trouble understanding that . What I was pointing out that there might be a few people out there tougher then teenage gang bangers that hold their guns upside down . As a matter of fact,to solve the gang problem we should just cancel deer season and have a punk hunt. obviously you are intimidated with these little boys with guns but there are people out here who are not.

March 30, 2012 at 9:21 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

TFP better take this down before The Wart's whiney satire sees any more "light of day".

March 30, 2012 at 9:50 a.m.
lightkeeper said...

There are some so called evangelical christians that really show their true colors on here....RACISM.

March 30, 2012 at 9:57 a.m.
jjmez said...

tu_quoque said: "I believe I'm going to have to see some evidence on this B.S. story were some posters are claiming his father was a retired judge."


To answer your question, both yes and no. As George Zimmerman's father, Robert, was a retired Supreme Court Magistrate {This according to his own son, George, on an application for the Sanford Police Academy} in Virginia from 2000-2006. Which is not considered an actual judge in many states, but comes pretty close. A Supreme Court Magistrate even closer. As the role of a magistrate, like magistrates in chattanooga, can set bail, and some are allowed to hear and decide minor cases.

Sanford Florida, depending upon their own magistrate rules, may have viewed and considered Robert Zimmerman at least with judge like influences. His pals were most certainly people with influence inside the Sanford government.

“Robert J. Zimmerman served as a full-time magistrate from 2000-2006. Please be advised that in Virginia magistrates are judicial officers,

Read more: http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/crime/zimmerman-dad-worked-as-magistrate#ixzz1qfduOud8

March 30, 2012 at 11:01 a.m.
chet123 said...

catpot....do me a favor and dont help!....you are being submissive to the right-wing nuts.....i will handle them alone....these bozos are light-weight!

March 30, 2012 at 11:26 a.m.
chet123 said...

AFTER I LEAVE THE ROOMS THE RIGHT-WING NUTS COME OUT OF THE WOOD WORKS....I THINK CATPOT MAY BE A UNDER-COVER RIGHT-WING NUT.....

March 30, 2012 at 11:27 a.m.
chet123 said...

I'M BACK NOW...I HAVE ATLEAST AN HOUR.....PLEASE...BRING IT ON!!!

March 30, 2012 at 11:30 a.m.
chet123 said...

WHERE IS TIMBO,JONESES,BIGRIDGE,TU-QUO

THIS AN EXAMPLE OF COWARDS....HIDING?????....WAITING FOR ME TO LEAVE.....WHERE ARE THESE CHILD-KILLER DEFENDERS.....WHERE ARE THESE BUTT KISSERS OF THE RICH AND GREEDY

AL SHARPTON HAVE MORE COURAGE THAN YOU COWARD RIGHT-WINGS.....HES TELLING THE WHOLE WORLD WHAT COWARD WE HAVE OVER HERE IN AMERICA THAT CALL THEMSELVES RIGHT-WING CONSERVATIVE HA HA HA

March 30, 2012 at 11:36 a.m.
chet123 said...

SO IS GEORGE ZIMMERMAN FATHER ROBERT A JUDGE OR NOT....OR DID HE LIE ON HIS APPLICATION TOO.....THIS BOY HAVE TROUBLE TELLING THE TRUTH

March 30, 2012 at 11:52 a.m.
chet123 said...

TUQUO ...ARE YOU STILL TRYING TO DEFEND THE CHILD KILLER

March 30, 2012 at 11:54 a.m.
chet123 said...

WHERE ARE ALL THE BAD BUTTS NOW?????

March 30, 2012 at 11:55 a.m.
chet123 said...

TU-QOU....ARE YOU SOUTHERN BAPTIST????....DO YOU KNOW WHAT PEOPLE SAY ABOUT SOUTHERN BAPTIST....YOUR CHURCH IS A PIT FULL OF SNAKES..HA HA HA

March 30, 2012 at noon
chet123 said...

THE FUNNY THINGS ARE YOUR PREACHERS..HA HA HA HA...TRY TALKING TO THEM..HA HA HA...THE LORDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD....BUT THEY ARE ATE UP WITH HATE HA HA HA.......YOU WILL NEVER HEAR A SOUTHERN BAPTIST PREACHING THE LOVE OF CHRIST,THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT,NOR WATER...HA HA HA

March 30, 2012 at 12:02 p.m.
chet123 said...

I USUALLY TAKE ON A DOZEN OF RIGHT-WING NUTS AT ONE TIME....THAT STILL GIVE ME A EDGE.....I THINK 20 RIGHT-WING NUTS JUST MAYBE...JUST MAYBE 20 RIGHT-WING NUTS WILL EVEN IT OUT....HA HA HA HA

I SEE THEY ARE HIDING NOW....THIS USUALLY MEANS THEY DONT HAVE THE NUMBERS OF COOTS TO TAKE ME ON....HA HA HA HA

March 30, 2012 at 12:15 p.m.
chet123 said...

THIS GETTING TO BE LIKE A SPORT...I SET THE BAIT...THEN WAIT.....YESTERDAY...I WAITED 4HRS.....THEY REALLY ARE INSECURE AND LACK CONFIDENCE!!!! THEY MUST GO TO THEIR SOURCE(FOX TV.HATE LINKS..THINK TANKS HERITAGE FOUNDATION, CATO INSTITUTE,CITIZEN FOR GREED...RUSH LIMBAUGH) TO GET UP ENOUGH NERVES...HA HA HA HA

March 30, 2012 at 12:20 p.m.
chet123 said...

AFRAID UNCLE CHET GOING TO SPANK THAT BUTT????HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

March 30, 2012 at 12:25 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Parents of murdered British students criticize Barack Obama

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9173820/Parents-of-murdered-British-students-criticise-Barack-Obama.html

Progressives really don't give a damn about Trayvon Martin or his plight. They are just distorting a story for their own political ambitions. Shameful racist inconsistencies.

March 30, 2012 at 12:52 p.m.
chet123 said...

TU-QUO....YOU ARE DURING EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER TO LET THIS CHILD KILLER OFF THE HOOK

March 30, 2012 at 1:21 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

What would "Homeland Security" need 450 million rounds of high tech armor peircing hollow point bullets for?

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-immigration-agents-are-loading-up-on-as-many-as-450-million-new-rounds-of-ammo-2012-3

March 30, 2012 at 1:27 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

I doubt the progressive croud here would be interested in comparing the inconsistencies between how the Shawn Tyson and Trayvon Martin stories are being handled.

March 30, 2012 at 1:29 p.m.
chet123 said...

WELL ONE THING FOR CERTAIN...POLICE ALLOWED ZIMMERMAN TO GO HOME.. FREED TO SCRIPT HIS LIE.....AND GATHER SUPPORT FROM HIS DADDY AND BROTHER TO SPREAD LIES.....WITH INTENT TO TAINT THE JURY POOL.......

YOU SAY HE WAS SIMPLY FOLLOWING....I SAY STALKING.....

SEE YOU ARE REPEATING ROBERT ZIMMERMAN LIE....QUOTING YOUNG MARTIN AS SAYING YOU ARE A DEAD MAN....(WHAT A SPIN...HA HA HA..I THINK I AM DIZZY AFTER THAT SPIN)

YOU EVEN SAYS "THERE NO EVIDENCE AFTER DISPATCHER TOLD HIM TO STOP"....YOU PERSONALLY TELLING LIES....

TU-QUO-YOU ARE A DEFENDER OF A CHILD KILLER

March 30, 2012 at 1:32 p.m.
chet123 said...

THIS WHY I AM HARD ON RIGHT-WING REPUBLICAN....THEY CLAIM TO BE PRO-LIFER.....

YOU SEE HOW THEY REJOICING OVER A CHILD LOSING HIS LIFE....THEY CLAIM TO HAVE MORALS....THATS A JOKE!....THEY CLAIM TO BE CHRISTIAN....THESE BOZOS ARE PAGANIST....WHEY WOSHIP MONEY AND POWER.......OBAMA HAVE TAKEN BOTH FROM THEM....THAT WHY THEY ARE SO MAD...

March 30, 2012 at 1:40 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Chet123 said: " THEY MUST GO TO THEIR SOURCE(FOX TV.HATE LINKS..THINK TANKS HERITAGE FOUNDATION, CATO INSTITUTE,CITIZEN FOR GREED...RUSH LIMBAUGH")

You forgot to mention a right wing favorite of many U.S. corporations - the American Legislative Exchange Council. The Florida senator who introduced the “SYG” law, Durell Peadon, was a member of ALEC. From there, ALEC adopted the statute as a model for other states. Indeed, their official slogan should be: “ALEC Corporations Write Laws and Real People Suffer."

“Among the voices absent from the national debate over Florida's law are those of the major corporations and industry groups who provide the bulk of the funding for the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), the shadowy right-wing organization that adopted Florida's statute as a model for states around the country.

As Media Matters has reported, after Florida passed its law in April 2005, ALEC's Criminal Justice Task Force and Board of Directors ratified nearly identical Castle Doctrine Act model legislation as their new gold standard and began promoting it through their nationwide network of conservative state legislators. The National Rifle Association (NRA) played a key role in both the bill's passage in Florida and its subsequent acceptance by ALEC, of which NRA is reportedly "a longtime funder."

Media Matters reached out to the corporations and groups like PhRMA and Verizon that were reportedly represented on ALEC's Private Enterprise Board at the time the organization adopted the model legislation, asking if they regretted their association with the bill. Every one denied responsibility, declined comment, or did not respond to repeated inquiries.”

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201203230014

March 30, 2012 at 1:42 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Hats off to you tu_quoque. I don't know how you maintain the energy to put a well researched argument before this crowd. Pearls before swine.

March 30, 2012 at 1:43 p.m.
chet123 said...

TU-QUO....ONE THING I'M PROUD OF ARE MY DEMOCRATS.....THEY ARE THE HEROS.......

THE SAME GROUP THAT PUSH THE STAND-OFF LAW...ARE THE SAME GROUP THAT PUSHED FOR VOTER ID....THE SAME GROUP THAT PUSHED FOR THE SUPER-PACK(WHICH WAS PASSED WITH 5-4 DECISION...ALL 5 JUDGES VOTING IN FAVOR WAS APPOINTED BY REPUBLICAN)

March 30, 2012 at 1:46 p.m.
chet123 said...

TU-QUO....JUST DONT RUN OFF......THAT SOUND PROBABLY COMING FROM ALL THEM LIES YOU'RE POSTED

March 30, 2012 at 1:48 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

It does not matter that Trayvon Martin may have brought about his own demise by attacking a citizen that was prepared to defend himself. We are all supposed to reflexively feel sympathy for Martin and hate for Zimmerman. We complain about crime and violence in our own community but are expected to have contempt for anyone who does something about it. The "progressive" way is a failure on an intellectual level so they must resort to distortion and emotional appeals.

March 30, 2012 at 1:50 p.m.
chet123 said...

HATS OFF TO YOU MOUNTAINLAUREL...I KNOW HOW YOU MAINTAIN YOUR ENERGY...ITS BY BEING CONSISTENCE...NOT BEING AN HYPOCRITE AND TELLING THE TRUTH...CANT SAY THE SAME ABOUT TU-QUO AND..BIGRIDGE....I FEEL SORRY FOR THEM.....BOTH OF THESE FOOL BREAK THE DOORS DOWN GETTING INTO CHURCH ON SUNDAY(SOUTHERN BAPTIST)....THIS WHY PEOPLE ARE CONSIDERING OTHER RELIGION....BECAUSE OF HATER LIKE THESE TWO

March 30, 2012 at 1:55 p.m.
chet123 said...

IF YOU KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON THE RIGHT-WING MOVEMENT...YOU WILL SEE ONE NAME REPEATLY....."THE KOCH BROTHERS"

March 30, 2012 at 1:58 p.m.
limric said...

As Bugs Bunny would say, "I know I'm gonna hate myself in de mooinin," but tu_quoque has given the soundest reasoning as far as facts, law and logic are concerned in this case.

As a concealed weapons permit holder, I make it a point to learn the laws regarding self defense in this state, Florida, or any with reciprocity. I have a book, and anyone in Florida posting here should regard it as a must have. It is 'Florida Firearms/ Law, Use & Ownership' by Jon Gutmacher Esq.

I'm sorry Chet and others that are lashing out with emotion rather than facts, but at this juncture, Zimmerman was justified in his actions. He did not break any laws.

March 30, 2012 at 2:11 p.m.
chet123 said...

BIGRIDGE....DONT YOU DARE USE THE WORD INTELLECTUAL....DONT YOU DARE.....YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY A BIGOTED MORON....

LIKE THE SPIN YOU PUT ON IT....HOW MUCH MORE DID YOUR NOSE GROW...150LBS BOY ATTACKED A 240LBS MAN..HA HA HA

THIS IS WHY AL SHARPTON WAS BROUGHT IN....FOR MORONS LIKE YOU.....AND THE WHOLE WORLD KNOW ABOUT IT....

March 30, 2012 at 2:16 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Good Advice...

Make sure your victim is not armed before you attack.

March 30, 2012 at 2:18 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

BigRidgePatriot said: It does not matter that Trayvon Martin may have brought about his own demise by attacking a citizen that was prepared to defend himself. . . We complain about crime and violence in our own community but are expected to have contempt for anyone who does something about it. The "progressive" way is a failure on an intellectual level so they must resort to distortion and emotional appeals.”

Huh? Aren’t you forgetting something really important here, BRP? Trayvon Martin wasn’t a criminal and he hadn’t done anything wrong. No, I agree with the retired judge that I mentioned in an earlier post. According to the State of Florida’s statute, George Zimmerman was the person out of line and was the aggressor in this particular case:

“Trayvon was engaged in legal and permissible activity. He was carrying a phone, candy and a drink and headed for a specific destination. He was speaking on his cellphone with his girlfriend. No objective or reasonable basis existed to suspect him of any illegal or wrongful activity. . . " Mr. Zimmerman, nonetheless, became suspicious and reported the "suspicious" activity to the 911 dispatcher.”

“The dispatcher specifically instructed Mr. Zimmerman not to follow Trayvon, but he ignored that instruction. Trayvon advised his girlfriend that someone was following him. When he began to run away from Mr. Zimmerman, Zimmerman can be heard running after him on the tape. . .”

“Based upon the undisputed facts in this case and this crazy Florida statute, if Trayvon Martin had a gun, he could have lawfully shot and killed George Zimmerman. If he could have shot him, he certainly could have punched him in the nose, knocked him down and beaten him in his own self-defense. These are the undisputed facts . . .”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/judge-h-lee-sarokin/trayvon-martin-could-have_b_1383452.html?ref=trayvon-martin

March 30, 2012 at 2:27 p.m.
chet123 said...

THATS WHAT IN YOUR HEART LIMRIC...THIS IS WHY WE GOT AL SHARPTON AND MANY OTHERS WITH MEGAPHONE SPEAKER TO LET THE WHOLE WORLD KNOW THE TYPE OF HATE AND INJUSTICE THAT IS PRACTICED IN AMERICA.....

LIMRIC...I NEVER CONSIDER YOU AS AN ALLY....SO YOU DONT HAVE TO BE SORRY...THIS IS NOT YOUR FIGHT BUT IF YOU DETERMINE TO INJECT YOURSLLF IN IT SO BE IT

GLAD OBAMA IS PRESIDENT....IT BROUGHT OUT ALL THE CLOSET RACIST...THE FUNNY PART ABOUT REPUBLICAN....THEY CRY LIKE A BABY ABOUT A DOG....BUT HAVE NO COMPASSION FOR A HUMAN....THIS IS THE PARTY OF THE DIXIE-CRATE.....THEY ARE MASQUADING AS REPUBLICAN(YOU SEE ROMNEY WONT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU)...YOU ARE REALLY DIXIE-CRATS....

FUTHERMORE....THE IDEALS OF JONESES,BIGRIDGE, ARE LEARNED BEHAVIOR....TAUGHT AT HOME AND CHURCH.....THEY DONT REPRESENT THE MAJORITY OF WHITE AMERICAN.....THEY ARE A DYING BREED.....

WHITE FEMALES ARE KIND....BUT I DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPEN TO A SOUTHERN SEGMENT OF WHITE MALES....MAYBE PEOPLE LIKE BIGRIDGE AND JONESES SEE THEY HAVE LOST CONTROL(THANKS GOD)....LOSS CONTROL OF THE BLACK MAN...LOSS CONTROL OF THEIR WIVES AND LOST CONTROL OF THEIR SPIRITUAL BEING.....

March 30, 2012 at 2:30 p.m.
chet123 said...

TO THE RIGHT-WINGER.....SORRY LIMRIC....BUT YOU ARE BEING USED....NRA WRTOE THIS LAW....THEIR INTENT IS TO MAKE MONEY WITH GUN MANUFACTURES.....AND PRIVATIZE PRISON.....I ANDER WHO WILL PROFITS....LIMRIC????BIGRIDGE????JONESES????? THE RICH AND GREEDY???BINGO!

SORRY BOYS....WHO DO YOU THINK WRITES LAWS...Hmmmm..THIS IS WHY I CALL YOU MORONS

March 30, 2012 at 2:43 p.m.
chet123 said...

StrongI'M NOT WORRY ABOUT ZIMMERMAN.....WHEN HE GO TO PRISON UEST YOU KNOW THE WORD IS OUT Hmmmmm?

I AM FOR PEACE BUT THERE ARE OTHERS NOT LIKE ME TU-QUO

March 30, 2012 at 2:46 p.m.
ibshame said...

There are no "sound facts" presented by TuDumb or anyone else who has attempted to JUSITFY the MURDER of an unarmed 17 year old kid. Nothing you can say justifies his murder. In the first damn place Zimmerman had no right to pursue this young man. Trayvon had every damn right to be walking that neighborhood. Zimmerman had no right to approach him PERIOD. It's never been made clear as to what exactly Trayvon was suppose to have been doing that made him appear suspicious other than walking through the neighborhood. Was it Zimmerman's job to approach EVERYONE he didn't know who appeared in the neighborhood?

Those who are trying to defend Zimmerman with a bunch of BS about how the law is written still don't provide any substance as to what Trayvon did that FIRST attracted attention by Zimmerman. Was Trayvon breaking in an Apartment? Was he peaking in windows? Was he turning cartwheels in the street? Just exactly what was he doing that first attracted Zimmerman's attention other than walking through the neighborhood? You don't have a damn clue and no one else does but what we do know is that Zimmerman decided this young man LOOKED SUSPICIOUS and he decided to pursue him even after the police dispatcher told him not to.

Not only did he pursue this kid with a 9mm gun in his possession, but he did so with the intent to do him harm. He shot this kid in cold blood but about the only thing that TuDumb, BRP and the rest of Zimmerman's supporters can be sure of is the fact he will walk away from all of this because of that screwed up law in Florida. Of that I have no doubt.

"Timbo said: As a matter of fact,to solve the gang problem we should just cancel deer season and have a punk hunt. obviously you are intimidated with these little boys with guns but there are people out here who are not."

You are naive if you think for one moment these so-called "punks" would be intimidated by you or your "punk hunters." Because while the mayor and the police department were denying there was a "gang problem" in Chattanooga the gangs were out recruiting elementary kids. The older members are just as adept at using REAL GUNS as you and your so-called "punk hunters."

March 30, 2012 at 2:47 p.m.
joneses said...

If you keep your eye on the left wing communist movement you will see one name repeated. That name is "idiot".

March 30, 2012 at 2:47 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

mountainlaurel said... "Trayvon Martin wasn’t a criminal and he hadn’t done anything wrong"

You say that like it is fact. There seems to be reasonable evidence to the contrary. I do not begrudge Zimmerman for following Martin while he waited for the police to arrive. I can understand his frustration with prowlers disappearing before police can show up. What is the harm in following the subject at a distance to keep track of location and be able to guide the police to the person of interest? I have done this myself!

If Martin did physically attack Zimmerman, that was clearly a criminal act. I don’t see anything that could remotely be called criminal on Zimmerman’s part up to that point.

March 30, 2012 at 2:55 p.m.
chet123 said...

I RESPECT THE TALIBAN MORE THAN YOU JONESES.....YOU ARE A HATER!!!!

THINK IF I WAS ON THEBATTLEFIELD I WOULD SAWP SIDE AGAINST YOU HA HA HA HA HA

March 30, 2012 at 2:56 p.m.
chet123 said...

KEEP YOUR RIGHT EYE ON THE GOOSE-STEPPING FACIST

March 30, 2012 at 2:58 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

ibshame said... “There are no "sound facts" presented by TuDumb or anyone else who has attempted to JUSITFY the MURDER of an unarmed 17 year old kid. Nothing you can say justifies his murder. In the first damn place Zimmerman had no right to pursue this young man. Trayvon had every damn right to be walking that neighborhood. Zimmerman had no right to approach him PERIOD. It's never been made clear as to what exactly Trayvon was suppose to have been doing that made him appear suspicious other than walking through the neighborhood. Was it Zimmerman's job to approach EVERYONE he didn't know who appeared in the neighborhood?”

Interesting. Martin has all the rights in someone else’s neighborhood and Zimmerman has no right to be where he wants to in his own neighborhood. This argument does not make any sense ibshame. You are stretching your definition of rights to support your conclusion.

This approach to "logic" is what allows us to slide down that slippery slope towards "the ends justify the means". In this case the end, per se, is your conclusion and you are willing to distort your definition of rights as necessary to support what looks to me to be a silly position.

March 30, 2012 at 3 p.m.
chet123 said...

JONESES,TU-QUO,BIGRIDGE.....DONT YOU LONG FOR THE GOOD OLE DAYS....SEPERATE WATER FOUTAIN,BLACKS TO THE BACK OF THE BUS, NO WOMEN RIGHTS, WOMEN KEPT PREGNANT AND BARE-FOOT..HA HA HA HA

JONESES....YOU'LL NEVER SEE THEM AGAIN

March 30, 2012 at 3:04 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

You dramatically declare "the MURDER of an unarmed 17 year old kid" but it looks like it would be more accurate to say that it looks like Zimmerman defended himself from a young thug in peak physical condition. Somehow I don't think the 80 pounds of body fat Zimmerman was carrying around was any advantage for him.

March 30, 2012 at 3:08 p.m.
chet123 said...

LET MICHAEL VICK KILL A DOG AND THESE RIGHT-WING NUT WANT TO KILL MICHAEL VICK....A BLACK YOUTH GET SHOT DOWN IN COLD BLOOD....YOU CHEER....

NOW JONESES AND TU-QUO WILL BE SITTING ON THE FRONT ROW AT SUNDAY WORSHIP SERVICES..HA HA HA HA

March 30, 2012 at 3:08 p.m.
chet123 said...

YEP....THAT RIGHT LIAR....SEE WHY THE NATIVE INDIAN CALLED FOLK LIKE BIGRIDGE FORK-TONGUE....IMPOSSIBLE FOR THIS TYPE TO TELL THE TRUTH....AND HE JUST GOES ON TO THE NEXT LIE....NO REMORSE.......AND HE GOT NERVE ENOGHT TO PLAY "GOD"...HA HA HA

March 30, 2012 at 3:12 p.m.
chet123 said...

I CAN SAY THIS...SOMEBODY ON THE SANFORD POLICE DEPARTMENT IS KIN TO JONESES,TU-QUO,JONESES.

THEY'RE ALSO TRYING TO SET THIS MURDERER FREE.....BUT IT WONT HAPPEN

WE HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE YOUNG WHITE AMERICAN....THEY ARE NOT TAINTED WITH HATE AS THE OLD FOLKS FROM THE 40'S AND 50'S LIKE JONESES ,TU-QUO AND BIGRIDGE

March 30, 2012 at 3:17 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

IBeAshamed Sez: "The older members are just as adept at using REAL GUNS as you and your so-called "punk hunters."

Funny, I don't remember seeing any of those older (gang) members at the range practicing. They must practice on their neighbors. That would explain quite a bit. Lots to be proud of there.

March 30, 2012 at 3:20 p.m.
chet123 said...

TU-QUO...DID YOU USE THE TERM PUNK HUNTER?

DONT LET THAT MOUTH GET YOU IN TROUBLE....TFP HAVE AN ETHIC POLICY

March 30, 2012 at 3:21 p.m.
Lr103 said...

After seeing Zimmerman on that police surveillance video at the Sanford police station after he was taken in, I can better understand why Trayvon though HE, zimmerman, was the thug. Zimmerman looks like one of those dangerous MS-13 gangbangers without the tattoos the U.S. government has warned for years were infiltrating the country.

March 30, 2012 at 3:23 p.m.
potcat said...

Chet, i assure you i am not nor will i EVER be right wing. I am the most Liberal person on the planet.

Just because i give Obama hell is that he is an apeaser to the nutjob Republicans, and i think is a damn Repub himself.

So i want come to your defense agian, since you are so capable of putting these idiots in their place, have at it and good luck.

The defination of capable...Having the ability to perform in an efficent way, qualified .

March 30, 2012 at 3:24 p.m.
chet123 said...

THIS IS THE PROBLEMS WITH STATE GOVERNMENT.....FEDERAL HAVE ALWAYS HAD TO OVER-RULS STATE LAWS.

THE STATE HAVE PROVEN TIME AFTER TIME...IT CANT GOVERN WITHOUT BIG BROTHER(FED)

I PREDICT THE GUN LAWS WILL BE REPEAL....IT MAY TAKE A COUPLE OF YEARS BUT IT WILL BE AFTER ENOUGH BLOOD HAVE BEEN SPILLED

THE YOUNG BLACK WILL NOT ALLOW WHAT THE GOOD OLE BOYS THINK THEY CAN DO.....THE DAYS OF SINGING WE SHALL OVERCOME IS OVER.

IF THE STATE GOVERNMENT REFUSE TO PROTECT THE BLACK CITIZEN THEY WILL DO IT THEMSELVES

GUESS THE SOUTHERN BAPTIST HAVE FORGOTTEN THE WHOPPING THEY TOOK IN THE CIVIL WAR

March 30, 2012 at 3:27 p.m.

My question is when 5 blacks killed another black teen in Chicago Obama's home town where was his out cry then? Better yet when 4 blacks raped and killed a white girl in Knoxville where was the President then? Fact is he should have kept his mouth shut on this, just like others until all the information is known.

March 30, 2012 at 3:32 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Lr103 said... "Zimmerman looks like one of those dangerous MS-13 gangbangers without the tattoos the U.S. government has warned for years were infiltrating the country."

Now every overweight latino male looks like a MS-13 gangbanger? Talk about your racial profiling!

March 30, 2012 at 3:33 p.m.
chet123 said...

THEN DONT USE MY NAME IF YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE THESE RIGHT-WING NUTS A VICTORY...THIS IS WHAT I DISLIKE ABOUT DEMOCRATS...INCLUDING OBAMA....THEY WONT FIGHT!!!!!

OBAMA HAVE THE JUSTICE DEPTMENT AND HE WONT USE IT....ITS HIGHLY EVIDENTED THAT SANFORD POLICE HAVE TRIED TO COVER-UP

NOW IF THE FED COULD COME TO CHATTANOOGA TENNESSEE WITH THE TENNESSEE WALTZ....AND LOCK-UP PEOPLE THAT HAD BEEN ENTRAPPED...THEY CAN GO TO SANFORD FL

I CAN TAKE CARE OF THESE RIGHT-WING NUTS..ALONE....I HAVE THE TRUTH....THEY HAVE LIES

March 30, 2012 at 3:34 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Limric said: “I'm sorry Chet and others that are lashing out with emotion rather than facts, but at this juncture, Zimmerman was justified in his actions.”

And I’m sorry to say to such a fine fellow that the only people that seem to be lashing out with emotion rather than facts are a few gun-toting roosters who for some unknown reason can’t admit to themselves that George Zimmerman was in the wrong when he shot Trayvon Martin.

March 30, 2012 at 3:35 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

mountainlaurel said... "the only people that seem to be lashing out with emotion rather than facts on this thread are a few gun-toting roosters "

Now THAT is hilarious. Do you read these posts? I suggest for your own credibility’s sake that you go through this thread and reconsider your statement!

March 30, 2012 at 3:38 p.m.
chet123 said...

LIMRIC HAVE ALWAYS BEEN RIGHT-WING....HE JUST WASNT HONEST....I CALL HIS UNDER-COVER REPUBLICAN.....

IF YOU NOT HARD CORE DONT BUDDY WITH ME.....HE IS WHAT YOU CALL WISHY-WASHY....DOUBLE TONGUE

March 30, 2012 at 3:41 p.m.
chet123 said...

IM CHET...I LASHED OUT AT THE LIAR....CLAIMING A 150LBSBOY....RAN DOWN THIS MAN THATS 10YRS OLDER AND 100LBS HEAVIER AND SLAMMED HIM TO THE GROUND AS IF THIS BOY IS SUPERMAN....THATS A LIE OF A COWARD

March 30, 2012 at 3:47 p.m.
chatt_man said...

Potcat - don't let CHET bother you. When someone's as unhappy, inept, and selfconcious about themselves as he is, they often get confused about who their allies are.

March 30, 2012 at 3:53 p.m.
chet123 said...

MOUNTAINLAUREL...THIS IS BIGGER THAN ZIMMERMAN AND TRA MARITN..THIS INVOLVES THE REPUBLICAN SNEAKY UNDERGIRD....THE NRAAND GUN MANUFACTURING...WHOSE MAKING BILLIONS

THESE FOOLS AROUND HERE THINK THEY WILL SHOOT BLACK KIDS WHETHER GUILTY OR INNOCENT....THIS IS JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG...I UNDERSTAND MORE NAD MORE WHY AMERICAN ARE HATE SO IN FORGIERN COUNTRY,,,ITS BECAUSE OF THESE MAGGOTTS(RIGHT-WING REPUBLICAN AND DEVILS LIKE THE KOCH BROTHERS) HIDING BEHIND THE GOOD DEMOCRATS DESTOYING THIS COUNTRY GOOD MADE WITH THEIR GREED

March 30, 2012 at 3:54 p.m.
chet123 said...

CHATTA-MAN...SAID POTCAT DONT LET CHET BOTHER YOU..HA HA HAHA HA HA...GUESS YOU WILL NEXT SAY I SLAM HER HEAD AGAINST THE CONCRETE HA HA HA HA HA HA...WHY DO ALL YOU RIGHT-WING NUTS LIES HA HA HA....REALLY AMAZING

March 30, 2012 at 4 p.m.
chatt_man said...

CHET - you liberals have always been good about putting words in other people's mouths... Where did the Head an concrete thing come from?

March 30, 2012 at 4:05 p.m.
chet123 said...

YOU DONT GET IT DO YOU.......CHATT...THATS YOUR PROBLEM....YOU ARE TAUGHT FROM A BABE TO BE INSENSITIVE TO FEMALES AND PEOPLE NOT YOUR COLOR OR RELIGION.....BUDDY....THATS WRONG....ITS WRONG.....MAYBE YOU NEED TO BREAK AWAY FROM GRANDPA TEACHING AND THINK AS A REAL MAN.....HINT: YOUR WOMAN WILL RESPECT YOU MORE

March 30, 2012 at 4:12 p.m.
sangaree said...

I just left the global grind website. There are recent pictures there of Trayvon Martin, as recently as February of this year (the month he was killed). He's not the threatening, brooding and dangerous figure Zimmeman supporters have tried to make him out to be. He's just a tall, skinny, lanky kid who looks a lot like the singer Usher Raymond.

go to www.globalgrind.com

March 30, 2012 at 4:15 p.m.
sangaree said...

chatt_man said... CHET - you liberals have always been good about putting words in other people's mouths... Where did the Head an concrete thing come from?

From one of many stories told from the Zimmerman camp. With surely more to come. As it seems their stories keep changing daily. Sometimes more than once in one day. Either way, Zimmerman remains the aggressor in the entire situation. So what if tall, skinny, lanky Martin was able to fight off his assailant for only a brief while? He was still defending himself from his assailant. Who admittedly had cased, stalked then pursued Martin. Even in the police surveillance video, Zimmerman looks like a gangbanger. If I were Martin I'd had been trying to get away from him to if I could. I would have attempted to fight him off too when I realized I couldn't get away.

March 30, 2012 at 4:21 p.m.
chet123 said...

WHERES THE HATERS???? Hmmmmm??????WHERES THE CHILD-KILLER DEFENDRS AT???? Hmmmmm?

YOU WERE TALKIN BIG YESTERDAY....ARE YOU A COWARD????Hmmmm?

THIS ANT THE MORNING PRESS...WHERE YOU CAN SAY ANYTHING AND NOT BE CHALLENGE!..WHERE JEFF THROWS SOFT BALLS TO YOU... HA HA HA HA

M

March 30, 2012 at 4:21 p.m.
chet123 said...

SANGAREE...THESES RIGHT-WING NUTS WHEN THEY HAVE A STRONG OPPOSITION THEY TAKE OFF RUNNING....I HAVE SEEN THIS HAPPEN MANY TIMES....

I FAULT THE DEMOCRATS FOR NOT TAKING THEM ON AS YOU AND I....

I WILL BE HERE ALL NITE WAITING FOR THESE COWARDS TO RETURN,,HA HA HA....LET SAY I'M ON A MISSION TONITE.....

PS...I WISH OBAMA WOULD FIGHT MORE...OBAMA IS A DESCENT MAN....BUT THESE CLOWNS ARE THUGISH..YOU HAVE TO GO AT THEM WITH PASSION AND A STICK...YOU CANT BE NICE TO THEM...OBAMA NEED ATLEAST GET A WELL GROOME FIGHTING TEAM AROUND HIM(LIKE JAMES CARVILLE) AND NOT SO MANY COLLEGE GEES HA HA HA...

YOU TAKE CARE SANGAREE!

March 30, 2012 at 4:28 p.m.
chet123 said...

I'M HERE

March 30, 2012 at 4:42 p.m.
chet123 said...

ALL THE HATERS HAVE RUN OFF.....THEY CANT STAND STRONG OPPOSITION.....I WANDER WHY????

I WILL BE HERE ALL NITE...I WILL WAIT YOU OUT.....

March 30, 2012 at 4:47 p.m.
chatt_man said...

CHET writes "OBAMA IS A DESCENT MAN...." If that's so, he's still a horrible President!!! Here are facts you all are gonna hate.

First President to refuse to show a valid birth certificate. First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner. First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in. First President to preside over a cut to the credit rating of the United States. First President to violate the War Powers Act. First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. First President to defy a Federal Judges court order to cease implementing the Health Care Reform Law. First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party. First President to spend a trillion dollars on shovel-ready jobs and later admit there was no such thing as shovel-ready jobs. First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters. First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat. First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S., including those with criminal convictions. First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees. First President to terminate Americas ability to put a man in space. First President to encourage racial discrimination and intimidation at polling places. First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present. First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it. First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly speak-out on the reasons for their rate increases. First President to tell a major manufacturing company in which state they are allowed to locate a factory. First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (Az, WI, OH, IN) First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago. First President to fire an inspector general of Ameri-corps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case. First President to appoint 45 Czars to replace elected officials in his office. First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records. First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it. First President to coddle American enemies while alienating Americas allies. First President to publicly bow to Americas enemies while refusing to salute the U.S. Flag. First President to go on multiple global apology tours. First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends, paid for by the taxpayer.

March 30, 2012 at 5:18 p.m.
chatt_man said...

Here's the rest.

First President to refuse to wear the U.S. Flag lapel pin. First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife. First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000.00 a year at taxpayer expense. First President to repeat “the Holy Qur'an tells us,” and openly admit “the early morning call of the Azan (Islamic call to worship) is the most beautiful sound on earth.”

March 30, 2012 at 5:19 p.m.
jjmez said...

chatt_man said.... First President to refuse to show a valid birth certificate

Don't you mean the First president to be hounded like forever about his birth certificate?

The rest of your rants just prove you've been sipping too much of that Rush Limbaugh and faux news kool-aide.

March 30, 2012 at 5:28 p.m.
mtngrl said...

looks like Joneses found a new name

March 30, 2012 at 5:30 p.m.
chatt_man said...

Yes, jjmez, you are correct. Hounded, hounded, and hounded... and still can't produce one. Do you not think that would be his best way to shut the birther's up? I really am more upset about his policies than whether he was born or created in Soro's basement.

March 30, 2012 at 5:45 p.m.

Seems that Al Sharpton is calling for riots and violence if Zimmerman is not arrested. The facts are not all in and whether some of you like it or not you'll just have to wait. Tough cookies. I guess Al Sharpton and Roseann want him yanked out of his house and hanging from a tree.

March 30, 2012 at 6:04 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Sangaree said: "One of many stories told from the Zimmerman camp. With surely more to come."

And here is another story, but it's not from the Zimmerman camp. Apparently, Zimmerman once lost his job as a security guard due to his temper:

“Usually he was just a cool guy. He liked to drink and hang with the women like the rest of us,” he said. “But it was like Jekyll and Hyde. When the dude snapped, he snapped.”

The source said Zimmerman . . . was let go in 2005.

“He had a temper and he became a liability,” the man said.

“One time this woman was acting a little out of control. She was drunk. George lost his cool and totally overreacted,” he said. “It was weird, because he was such a cool guy, but he got all nuts. He picked her up and threw her. It was pure rage. She twisted her ankle. Everyone was flipping out.”

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/george-zimmerman-lost-job-party-security-guard-aggressive-ex-co-worker-article-1.1053223#ixzz1qdnEwt8j

March 30, 2012 at 6:28 p.m.
ibshame said...

"tu_quoque said... IBeAshamed Sez:

" The older members are just as adept at using REAL GUNS as you and your so-called "punk hunters."

You seem to say that with a certain amount of pride.

Very odd."

No, not pride but reality!!. You see these so-called "punks" that the "punk hunters" are going to be tracking down have no more respect for the lives of their own then they would for the "punk hunters." In fact, probably less and that's the reality of it. So while those who think they are going to show up in a neighborhood and rid the neighborhood of these "punks" they should realize what they are dealing with and who they are dealing with.

TuDumb was it pride that pushed Zimmerman to use his gun on an unarmed teen or was he out "punk hunting?"

March 30, 2012 at 6:34 p.m.
jjmez said...

blondebutnotdumb said... I guess Al Sharpton and Roseann want him yanked out of his house and hanging from a tree


Naw, that's more like one of your gangs tactics. That or, a mob of y'all chasing a group of Zimmermans from Wal-Mart. hehehe. You remember that scene don't you? Those Muslim women and their children being chased by a mob of crazed blondesanddumbs and forced to run from Wal-Mart for their lives right after 911? lawdy!

March 30, 2012 at 6:44 p.m.
ibshame said...

"chatt_man said... Yes, jjmez, you are correct. Hounded, hounded, and hounded... and still can't produce one. Do you not think that would be his best way to shut the birther's up?"

Evidently you don't keep up with the news but last year about the same time President Obama was giving the go ahead to take out Osama Bin Laden he authorized release of his 'LONG FORM' Birth Certificate and it was released. It was certified by the STATE OF HAWAII as AUTHENTIC. But let's face it, if the Blessed Virgin Mary came down and said he was born in Hawaii because she was there it wouldn't be enough for BIRTHERS. They aren't worth the time it takes anymore to prove anything to because ignorance like that is inbred.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20057812-503544.html

March 30, 2012 at 6:49 p.m.
jjmez said...

mountainlaurel said...“One time this woman was acting a little out of control. She was drunk. George lost his cool and totally overreacted,” he said. “It was weird, because he was such a cool guy, but he got all nuts. He picked her up and threw her. It was pure rage. She twisted her ankle. Everyone was flipping out.”


Another Ted Bundy in the making, perhaps? Wasn't it Florida where Ted Bundy perfected his art of serial killings? He made sure he moved in the right circles, was even once stopped by Florida police during a search for this elusive serial killer and was let go. He too was a charming guy.

March 30, 2012 at 6:51 p.m.
jesse said...

i have ,over time been dropping in here and scaning out the posts and have come to the conclusion that this is the most comprehensive conglomoration of idiots on the planet! w/three or four exceptions you folks are making the human race look like idjits! you are doing not only yourself bUT the entire human race a diservice by acting like a bunch of BABOONS!! you CAN disagree w/someone with out calling them A:dumbB:racistC:bigotD; repugnat AND E: libatard! they happen to not share your opinion,so you don't agree!so what.does that mean somehow they are beneith you!i don't think so! i can disagree w/anyone and still respect the fact that they are reasoning people that just don't see things the way i do!!

March 30, 2012 at 7:56 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Ouch! This one will sting in the Whitehouse.

Not-So-Smooth Operator Obama increasingly comes across as devious and dishonest.

http://online.wsj.com/article/declarations.html

The Obama's involvement in the Martin story is mentioned as just one more example in a long list of how "the president is coming across more and more as a trimmer, as an operator who's not operating in good faith".

March 30, 2012 at 8:07 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Al Sharpton: Civil disobedience will escalate if Zimmerman remains free

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-30/news/os-george-zimmerman-trayvon-al-sharpton-20120330_1_civil-disobedience-national-action-network-national-association

The race baiters are working this one incredibly hard. It does not matter that they do not know what happened that night. The important thing is that this is an opportunity to whip up racial tensions.

“If George Zimmerman is not arrested in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin soon, the Rev. Al Sharpton will call for an escalation in peaceful civil disobedience and economic sanctions.”

March 30, 2012 at 8:11 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Soledad Makes It About Race, Again

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/03/30/CNN-Soledad-OBrien-Makes-it-About-Race-Again

At least Soledad O'Brien does not hide her agenda?

March 30, 2012 at 8:21 p.m.
limric said...

BRP's 8:11 post is - unfortunately correct.

Is there some reason that investigative objectivity, law and logic has flown out of the window in this case?

Jesse is also correct, the lot of us look like a bunch of angry chimps...or is that baboons - Except for me of course. ;->

March 30, 2012 at 8:23 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

potcat said... "Has anyone on here been bucked off a Horse. My Stupid ASS Brother and family was going riding, my horse was Rosie and i fed her an apple and thought every was going to be fine. I was the first to saddle up and my stupidAss brother slapped her on the ass and said get, she took off like a bat out of hell and i fell off. I'm in sooo much pain, i almost want to end it . Broke ribs, neck, back and am black and blue, oh did i mention my neck. And dig this sh.. every one doesn't want me to me to take Pain Pills, yeah right."

OUCH! Sorry to hear about that potcat. My mom had a horse rear up and over and fall on top of her once. Her hip was broken in that incident.

March 30, 2012 at 8:38 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

I was bucked off a mountain bike once, coming down an unmaintained trail at a stupid rate of speed, stuck the front wheel in a rut, went head over heels and landed on my feet. One lucky trick!

March 30, 2012 at 8:46 p.m.

jjmez, what are you talking about? No, that is exactly what Roseann, Spike Lee and Sharpton want. What else is your intent if you tweet someone's home address in this situation, if not to cause them harm? Zimmerman's parents, who have nothing to do with it, should sue Roseann until it hurts. So should the older couple who were the victims of Lee's tweet.

You're the racist for lumping me in with whatever you're babbling about. Why would I approve of that? I take people as individuals. It's you who seem to lump people together.

Al Sharpton is completely out of control. He's nothing but an ignorant loud mouth. Obama's handling of this will come back to haunt him.

March 30, 2012 at 8:52 p.m.
chet123 said...

i'm back in here chatt man ha ha ha....are your nose growing.....WHATS UP WITH REPUBLICANS.....THEY CANT TELL THE TRUTH....WHY DO THEY LIE AND LIE AND LIE.....THOUGHT I WAS GONE HA HA HA CAUGHT THEM RED HANDED(OR RED TONGUED)HA HA HA LYING

JUST MAKE SOMETHING UP....YOU HAVE NO HONOR!

OVER HALF AMERICAN PRESIDENT DIDNT HAVE BIRTH CERTIFICATE.....BUT IT NEVER MATTER BY ASKING THEM...REPUBLICAN DIDNT CARE UNTIL A BLACK PRESIDENT CAME ALONG.HA HA HA HA HA...GET OVER IT REPUBLICAN RED NECKS

GUESS REPUBLICAN DIDNT KNOW.....LET UNCLE CHET TEACH...SINCE YOU ATTENDED TENNESSEE TEMPLE COLLEGE HA HA HA....LISTEN!.. NO PRESIDENTS WERE EVEN BORN IN A HOSPITAL UNTIL JIMMY CARTER! HA HA HA HA

THIS IS WHY I COME IN HERE ATLEAST ONCE A DAY TO SANITIZE THIS ROOM CLEAN OF REPUBLICAN LIES.....

THIS IS WHY YOU CANT HOLD ON TO YOUR WOMAN "CHATT MAN"

March 30, 2012 at 8:56 p.m.
chet123 said...

LET ME SEE WHO ELSE IS LYING...Hmmmmm....Hmmmmmm...Hmmmm...THERES SOMRTHING STRANGE ABOUT CHATT MAN..Hmmmmmm....THIS GUY HAVE A NEW NAME..Hmmmmmmm

THIS GUY IS SHAME TO SAY WHO HE REALLY IS..HA HA HA

March 30, 2012 at 9:02 p.m.
chet123 said...

BIGRIDGE...I THINK YOU REALLY LANDED ON YOUR HEAD HA HA HA...SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU BOY

March 30, 2012 at 9:04 p.m.
chet123 said...

HEY BLONDEBUTREALLYDUMB...DIDNT I TELL YOU THAT YOU CONTRIBUTED NOTHING....MADE NO SACRIFICES....BUT BENEFITED MORE THAN ANYONE IN THE LIBERAL MOVEMENT......THE MEN KEPT YOU PREGNANT BARE-FOOTED..YOU COULD OWN ANYTHING...YOU COULDNT VOTE....NOW YOU WITH YOUR DUMB BUTT...IS DYING TO RETURN TO THEM DAYS.....HA HA HA HA HA HA...IF THAT NOT DUMB...WHAT IS.....THIS IS WHY I'M SO PROUD OF DEMOCRATS

HEY BLONDEDUMB....IF YOU DISOBEYED THEY WOULD KILL YOU.....HA HA HA.....IF THIS NOT PEA-BRAIN SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL ME HA HAHA HA

March 30, 2012 at 9:10 p.m.
chet123 said...

I SEE YOU RIGHT-WING REPUBLICAN ARE SCARE OF SHARPTON HA HA HA HA....SHARPTON GOT YOU FIGURE OUT RIGHT HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HE PUT A STICK ON THAT HEAD.....HE WONT GIVE YOU AN INCH HA HA HA HA AND SHARPTON GOT A LOUD MOUTH....HE HAS LET THE WHOLE WORLD KNOW ABOUT YOUR LYING AND HATE......HEY RIGHT-WING REPUBLICAN...YOU ARE EXPOSED...YOU ARE STANDING BUTT NAKED....HA HA HA HATHE WHOLE WORLD SEE YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE....AND I LOVE IT!!!!!!!

March 30, 2012 at 9:14 p.m.
chet123 said...

HEY CHATTA MAN...IS THATS ALL YOUR FIRSTISM..HA HA....ARE YOU JEALOUS? HA HA HA HA...JUST THINK ABOUT IT...YOU ARE A NOBODY....THIS MAN HAVE THE BLACK BOX AND POWER TO VAPORIZE YOU HA HA HA HA...YOU JUST A LITTLE FLEA FLYING AROUND...HE COULD SMASH YOU AGAINST A WALL HA HA HA HA....ARE JUST ANOTHER LOSER HA HA HA

March 30, 2012 at 9:23 p.m.
jjmez said...

blondebutnotdumb said... jjmez, what are you talking about? No, that is exactly what Roseann, Spike Lee and Sharpton want. What else is your intent if you tweet someone's home address in this situation, if not to cause them harm? Zimmerman's parents, who have nothing to do with it, should sue Roseann until it hurts. So should the older couple who were the victims of Lee's tweet

You're right on one point here, at least, blondie. That is, that was a pretty dumb @ss and dangerous thing to do, to tweet someone home address like that. However, unlike Zimmerman, then his step-dad trying to make excuses, Spike has manned up, apologize and he and the elderly couple have agreed on a financial settlement. However, don' see as to how the real Zimmermans should be able to sue anyone. Hasn't the step-dad been covering for his son since all this happened? Just think if he'd set his son down from the very beginning and said to him, "Son, I realize you may not have meant to do what you did, but you took the life of an innocent young man. Do the right thing and apologize. And if you must face any charges, then face them with grace, honor and take it like a man."

You know, blondie, there was a time in this nation that people did just that. Stood up and admitted their mistakes. Their parents wouldn't have allowed themselves to be used to hide behind.

March 30, 2012 at 9:25 p.m.
chet123 said...

SPIKE LEE GOT THE RIGHT IDEA.....FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE

March 30, 2012 at 9:28 p.m.
chet123 said...

SPIKE SHOULD HAVE GIVEN THE ADDRESS OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE NRA

March 30, 2012 at 9:29 p.m.
chet123 said...

I SEE THESE RIGHT-WING LUNITICS,CHILD KILLER DEFENDER,HAVE RUN OFF LIKE A SCARED LITTLE GIRL

March 30, 2012 at 9:36 p.m.
chet123 said...

THIS IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF COLLUSION.....THE RIGHT-WING ARE TO COWARDICE TO CONFRONT A POSTER ONE ON ONE....THEY RUN....HA HA HA...THEY TRY TO WORK THEIR EVIL DEEDS IN THE DARK.....I WILL BE LIKE AL SHARPTON....I WILL EXPOSE YOUR LIES AND DEEDS TO LIGHT HA HA HA...THESE LUNITICS ARE SCARED OF ME AND AL SHARPTON......HA HA HA HA HA HA HA...THEY WANT TO COLLUDE WITH THE MEDIA(FOX NEWS), THE POLICE, THE JUDGES, THE CROOKY POLICE,,THE LOBBYIST(NRA) HA HA HA HA HA...THE DEMOCRATS ARE PULLING THE COVER OFF YOU HYPOCRITES ALONE WITH THE SOUTHERN BAPTIST CHURCH(THE ORIGINATOR OF THE KKK)

March 30, 2012 at 9:45 p.m.
dude_abides said...

BRP... She was obviously pregnant with you at the time. See what you get for being nice? Get well potcat.

March 30, 2012 at 9:45 p.m.
chet123 said...

HELLO DUDE

March 30, 2012 at 9:51 p.m.
chet123 said...

HA HA HA HA HA HA...THESE RIGHT-WINGS ARE TERRORFIED OF ME HA HA HA HA HA HA!

March 30, 2012 at 10:10 p.m.
chet123 said...

I'M STILL HERE

March 30, 2012 at 10:14 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Jesse said: "i can disagree w/anyone and still respect the fact that they are reasoning people that just don't see things the way i do!!"

Your post reminded me of a thought I had earlier today. I bet this tragedy would have never occurred if George Zimmerman had just introduced himself and explained to Trayvon Martin why he was concerned and what had been happening in the neighborhood. Know what I mean?

March 30, 2012 at 10:36 p.m.
acerigger said...

jesse said...

i have ,over time been dropping in here and scaning out the posts and have come to the conclusion that this is the most comprehensive conglomoration of idiots on the planet! w/three or four exceptions you folks are making the human race look like idjits! you are doing not only yourself bUT the entire human race a diservice by acting like a bunch of BABOONS!! you CAN disagree w/someone with out calling them A:dumbB:racistC:bigotD; repugnat AND E: libatard! they happen to not share your opinion,so you don't agree!so what.does that mean somehow they are beneith you!i don't think so! i can disagree w/anyone and still respect the fact that they are reasoning people that just don't see things the way i do!! March 30, 2012 at 7:56 p.m

Well said,except for the"baboon"part,lol!

March 30, 2012 at 10:37 p.m.
chet123 said...

WHERE IS SHIFAROBE....THE EXPERT ON BLACK PEOPLE(EOBP)....HE SEEM TO KNOW WHAT GOOD FOR BLACK PEOPLE..HA HA HA

THIS POOR TRASH VOTES REPUBLICAN WITH THE KOCH BROTHERS WHO DONT GIVE A DARN ABOUT HIM...FOR ALL THE KOCH BROTHER CARE THIS BOZO IS AN INDENTURE SERVANT...OHHHHH BUT HE THINK HES KOCH BROTHERS EQUAL...HA HA HA....IF KOCH BROTHER EVER GET THRU THE LINE OF DEFENSE OF THE DEMOCRATS.....THEY WILL COME AFTER SHIFAROBE APPALANCIAN HILLBILLY BUTT....

ONE THING THE BLACK KNOWS IS DEMOCRATS STAND FOR DEMOCRACY....AND NOT A MONARCHY. AND THE BLACKS ARE NOT BROWN NOSING LIKE YOU SHIFAROBE....HOPING YOU CAN GET THE CRUMBS THAT FALL OFF THE TABLE OF THE KOCH BROTHERS HA HA HA HA

March 30, 2012 at 10:42 p.m.
chet123 said...

StrongWELL,WELL,WELL...I PEEP IN HERE TO SEE WHATS GOING ON AND SAW THE INMATE HAD TAKEN OVER THE ASYLUM....AND GUESS WHO WAS LEADING THE CHARGE....JESSE AND ABOUT 4 MORE RIGHT-WING NUT....OH THEY WERE NAME CALLING...LYING...DISRESPECTING THE CONSTITUTION..HA HA HA HA..SO I THOUGHT I WOULD CAMP IN...THEY ALL RAN LIKE A SCARE RABBITS......NOW ALL A SUDDEN THEY HAVE AMNESIA...A SUDDEN MEMORY LOST HA HA HA HA HA....THAT HYPOCRITE JESSE CLAIMING HE A CIVIL MAN HA HA HA HA...THIS IS HOW THE REPUBLICAN OPERATES....I DONT SEE HOW THEIR WIVES CAN PUT UP WITH THEM....THEY DO A COMPLETE 180DEGREE TURN....AND ACT LIKE NOTHING HAPPEN....I THINK BILL O REALLY AND RUSH LIMBAUGH HAVE RAN THEM FOOLS CRAZY....KILLING CHILDREN....KILLING THEIR WIVES...BURNING DOWN THEIR HOUSES WITH THEIR FAMILY STILL IN IT....

THIS WHAT HAPPEN TO A MAN SOUL WHEN IT IS FILLED WITH HATE!!

March 30, 2012 at 10:54 p.m.
chet123 said...

MY MAN JESSE HA HA HA...TRYING TO DO THE ZIMMERMAN ON ME HA HA HA HA HA HA HA..ALL A SUDDEN HE IS THE VICTIM HA HA HA HA..THIS IS ONE OF THE OLDEST TRICK IN THE BOOK..HA HA HA HA..THE OLD SWITCH-A-ROOHA HA HA HA HA HA

March 30, 2012 at 11:02 p.m.
acerigger said...

Chet123,HATE goes hand in hand with FEAR! That's what keeps Americans(all people)divided. What to do, but know the truth and keep the faith.

March 30, 2012 at 11:03 p.m.
chet123 said...

HOPE MY FELLOW DEMOCRATS SEE WHAT HAPPEN WHEN YOU STAND UP AND FIGHT FOR YOUR BELEIF AND IDEAS....THE RIGHT WING NUTS RUN LIKE COWARDS.....

THEY LOVE TO BULLY...ONE THING I LEARN MANY YEARS AGO..AND THAT IS ITS A THIN LINE BETWEEN BEING A BULLY AND A COWARD......DEMOCRATS...YOU HAVE TO HIT BACK....DONT LET THEM LIE AND GET AWAY WITH IT....HA HA HAHA TALK SOFTLY AND CARRY A BIG STICK.....MOST RIGHT-WING REPUBLICAN ARE THIN SKINNED HA HA HA

March 30, 2012 at 11:07 p.m.
chet123 said...

ACERIGGER....THATS WHY I LOVE BEING A DEMOCRATS....YOU HAVE SPOKE WITH WISDOM....SEE YOU ARE NOT A LIGHT-WEIGHT ACERIGGER...

PLEASE EXCUSE ME FOR MY POSTING...BUT TONITE I JUST FEEL LIKE BEATING DOWN A RIGHT-WINGER HA HA HA

March 30, 2012 at 11:09 p.m.
chet123 said...

WELL MY FELLOW DEMOCRATS THIS IS THE RESPONSE I GET WITH REPUBLICAN....THEY RUN OFF...THE DEMOCRATS NOT GUILTY OF COLLUDING LIKE A BUNCH OF KIDS...THIS IS VERY CHILDISH......FELLOW DEMOCRATS NOTICE REPUBLICAN ONLY RUN IN PACKS...LIKE WOLVES....THE ARE VERY INSECURE....THEY BEEN LIED TO BY THEIR FAMILY ,CHURCH, THEY REALLY DONT HAVE A CORE VALUE....THEY CLAIM THEY ARE PRO-LIFER...BUT WHEN A YOUNG MAN LOOSES HIS LIFE THEY HAVE NO FEELING FOR HIS FAMILY....THEY CLAIM THEY ARE PRO-LIFER BUT DOING THE HEALTH CARE DEBATE...THEY SAID LET THEM DIE....ITS IS BECAUSE THEY DONT REALLY BELEIVE IN NOTHING...THEY ARE DRIVEN BY HATE HA HA HA....THEY ARE VERY SAD.......BEST WAY TO DESCRIBE RIGHT-WING REPUBLICAN ARE WITH THREE WORDS....(1)LIAR(2)COWARD(3)HATER

March 30, 2012 at 11:36 p.m.
fairmon said...

Based on what I have read in the post here there is no need for an investigation or trial, just sentence him. The HYG law would not be a defense for the shooter if the prevailing description of events are factual. The investigations should reveal the facts if that is possible. Hopefully, additional facts will not confuse those reaching a conclusion based on the information provided by a hyperactive medias rush to be first. What has been publicized so far indicates the only issue is the degree of culpability of the shooter. Why in the hell would any "neighborhood watch" particpant do more than report a concern about someone not known in the neighborhood? Regardless of a law or no law like most people anyone attempting to break in my house, steal something from me or attack me or harm my family is a dead S.O.B., if none of those happen I would not follow them and risk or invite a confrontation.

I haven't seen or read much but why is this being viewed as a white on black crime? The picture of the shooter I saw on the news didn't appear to be a caucasian male, he looked Hispanic, but regardless it is a terrible thing to happen.

March 31, 2012 at 12:53 a.m.
fairmon said...

Q: Why is a hate crime considered more serious and punished more severely. This decision depends on who the victim or criminal is, why.

Q: Is the mother of the local 13 year old innocent child that was shot less devistated if the shooter didn't do it out of hate.

Q; What do those not charged with a hate crime do differently when they kill or injure someone. Do some of those inflicting the harm say "my bad", nothing personal you know, I love you or something similar.

Q: Is the killed or injured less harmed, does the family of the victim suffer less.

A gay can kill another gay or someone can kill another person of the same race and be punished less severely. I fail to see the logic in that. Those opposing the death penalty say it is not a deterrent, so what, the punishment is for the crime committed not for rehab. The death penalty sure cuts down on repeat offenders as does very long sentences for any crime with a victim.

March 31, 2012 at 4:01 a.m.
chet123 said...

ZIMMERMAN IS NOT WHITE.....NOONE IS AFTER WHITE PEOPLE....BUT IF THIS ZIMMERMAN IS ALLOWED TO GO FREE IT IS OPEN SEASON ON YOUNG BLACK MALES...GUILTY OR INNOCENT....

HARP WHY ARE THE REPUBLICAN WHITE INJECTING THEMSELVES INTO THIS ISSUES....ITS NOT YOUR SONS......THIS IS A FIGHT THAT MAKE YOU LOOK AS A PROTECTOR OF A CHILD KILLER.....ITS BAD TACTIC FOR YOU...YOU HAVE NOTHING TO GAIN AND ALL TO LOOSE PROTECTING THIS JERK ZIMMERMAN

March 31, 2012 at 5:17 a.m.
chet123 said...

THE SHOOTER OF THE 13YEAR OLD WAS NOT SET FREE...ZIMMERMAN WAS SET FREE HARP

THIS IS A FALSE ANALOGY..

WHY ARE ARREST MADE SLOW WHEN A MAN SHOOT AND KILL HIS WIFE....CHATTANOOGA IS LACE WITH WIFE KILLERS THAT COINCIDE WITH DIVORCES....Hmmmmm....THOSE CASES ARE CLOSER TO THE ZIMMERMAN CASE.....SLOW INVESTIGATIONS

LETS NOT PLAY GAMES HARP..I RESPECT AN HONEST MAN REGARDLESS OF HIS VEIWS...YOU KNOW THE HISTORY OF THE SOUTH...DONT PRETEND THE SYSTEM WAS NOT TILTED IN FAVOR OF THE GOOD OLE SOUTHERN BAPTIST BREED MALE....SO TELL ME HARP...ARE YOU PLANNING ON KILLING SOMEONE BLACK?.....SOUNDS LIKE YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO KILL A BLACK MAN AND NOT BE CHARGE AS IN THE GOOD OLE DAYS WHEN THE GOOD OLE BOYS FILLED THE JURY BOX.SUSPECT WAS FREED 100% OF THE TIME..IT WAS A JOKE..

THIS IS WHY FED INJECTED HATE CRIMES..THIS IS WHY THE GOOD OLE BOYS LOVE STATE RIGHT..AND WHY THEY HATE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT..THE GOOD OLE BOYS ARE SCARE TOO DEATH THEY WILL GO TO JAIL....

IN THE GOOD OLE DAYS THEY COULD DO THE CRIME BUT NOT WORRY ABOUT THE TIME..THEY WERE THE POLICE, JUDGE AND JURY...REALLY THEY WERE GOD..AND THEY LOVED IT..THOSE DAYS ARE OVER....THIS UPSET THE GOOD OLE BOYS......SO WHY ARE YOU SO UPSET

March 31, 2012 at 5:28 a.m.
chet123 said...

HARP....I WILL ALWAY PROTECT YOUR RIGHT TO DEFEND YOUR FAMILY AND PROTECT YOUR PROPERTY...ALWAYS...DO YOU HEAR ME???ALWAYS..THIS IS WHAT MAINTAIN CIVILAZATION...WE DIDNT HAVE DRUG PEOPLE OR LAW BREAKERS IN MY NEIGBORHOOD WHEN I WAS GROWING UP BECAUSE MY DAD WOULD HAVE LEVEL HIS SHOT-GUN ON THE LAW BREAKER...OR ANYONE ONE COMING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO BRING NEGATIVE INFLUENCE HA HA HA.I'M WITH YOU BUDDY

I KNOW YOU WOULD NEVER STALK ANYONE DOWN....BUT THIS FOOL ZIMMERMAN DID SO........AND THERE ARE OTHER COOTS OUT THERE WHO WOULD....AFTER TALKING TO ALL THE SICK PUPPIES ON-LINE I KNOW THERE ARE A FEW NUTS CAPABLE OF DURING SO....WHETHER INNOCENT OR GUILTY.....BUT KNOWING THEY WOULD GO TO JAIL..THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT ATITUDE......THEY WANT TO STAY AWAY FROM PRISON HA HA HA...THEY KNOW IT WOULD BE A REPRISAL(PAY-BACK)FROM THE PRISONERS....BIG TIME!

March 31, 2012 at 5:54 a.m.
chet123 said...

HARP...THIS IS MY TAKE.....THE REASON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT PROCEEDED THE WAY THEY DID IS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT BEING HONEST....I THINK YOU WILL SEE IN A FED INVESTIGATION..OR WITH THE STATE ATTORNEY.......ZIMMERMAN WAS ILLEGALLY WORKING AS A POLICE..AND THE DEPARTMENT TRYING OR TRIED TO COVER IT UP.. THE LOCAL POLICE ALLOWED HIM TO CONDUCT HIMSELF AS A POLICE OFFICER(THIS GUY IS A JERK)....ATLEAST SOMEONE IN THAT DEPARTMENT DID..AND IT BACK-FIRED...THERE WILL BE HEADS ROLLING BEFORE THIS INVESTIGATION IS OVER.....

March 31, 2012 at 6:02 a.m.
Reardon said...

Turn your caps off.... nobody will read your posts -- even if they're good ideas -- if it's hard to read...

March 31, 2012 at 7:04 a.m.
davisss13 said...

Turn the caps off. Jeez, even if I agree with you I won't read through the caps. Stop being so GD lazy.

March 31, 2012 at 8:56 a.m.
chet123 said...

NO THANKS....I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU SEE MY POSTING....YOU WONT HAVE AN EXCUSE TO PRETEND YOU DIDNT KNOW.....AND BY THE WAY....YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT ME BEING HARD CORE....THAT LAST SMART BUTT COMMENT YOU MADE IS THE REASON I DONT THROW SOFT BALLS AT YOU DAVISS...

IF YOU AND YOUR LITTLE CONSERVATIVE FRIENDS RESPECT ME AND OTHERS I WILL RESPECT YOU....REGARDLESS OF OUR DIFFERENCES....OK? OK!

March 31, 2012 at 9:12 a.m.
chet123 said...

SEE JESSE CRYING THIS IS BECAUSE HE'S NOT CONTROLLING THE NARRATIVE.....

IN REALITY, JESSE DONT HAVE A NARRATIVE....HIS THINKING IS TOO SHADOW.....IN OTHER WORDS...THE LIGHTS ARE ON BUT THERE NOONE AT HOME

March 31, 2012 at 9:18 a.m.
chet123 said...

A THANKS TO TFP FOR BEING FAIR.....USUALLY THE VERY PEOPLE THAT MAKE DEROGATORY AND THREATENING STATEMENT(LIKE GOING PUNK HUNTING)WILL TRY TO CENSOR MY SPEECH....I GUESS YOU CAN SAY THEY COLLUDE TOGETHER AND DO THE "ZIMMERMAN"...CLAIM THEY ARE THE VICTIM..THIS IS THE OLD SWITCH-O-ROO GAME.....THIS GAME HAVE BEEN PLAYED A LONG TIME IN THE SOUTH.....THIS IS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY HAVE THE JUDGE AND JURY AS MEMBER OF THEIR CHURCH, NEIGBORHOOD AND KIN-FOLKS....I THANKS TIMESNEWSFREEPRESS FOR BEING REALLY "FAIR AND BALANCED"

March 31, 2012 at 9:29 a.m.
chet123 said...

THANK YOU TIMESFREEPRESS!!! THANKS YOU VERY MUCH....!

March 31, 2012 at 9:32 a.m.
chet123 said...

HAVE A GOOD DAY!!

March 31, 2012 at 9:33 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

alprova and The Wart must have gone on vacation together.

March 31, 2012 at 10:46 a.m.
Lr103 said...

harp3339 said...Q: Why is a hate crime considered more serious and punished more severely. This decision depends on who the victim or criminal is, why. Q: Is the mother of the local 13 year old innocent child

It's really not at all as complicated as you're pretending to make it out to be, harp. I will, however, attempt to answer your question for your peace of mind, hopefully. I don't necessarily agree with the hate crime law, for the simple reason that, like any law, it too is being abused and applied where it's not warranted. The death of Mathew Shepard(the gay man beaten, tortured and murdered in 1998 because he was gay) and later James Byrd Jr., who was dragged to his death in Tyler Texas, with bits and pieces of his body scattered all over the road (his head later found in a drain). These two heinous and hideous acts of violence are what led to the Mather Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crime Act. The Hate Crime Act was meant to punish people more severely who committed crimes against others based on their dislike of the individuals race, gender, religion, ethnicity, sexual preference etc. It doesn't imply that every crime that cross racial, ethnic, sexual preference lines etc. etc. are necessarily a hate crime. However, when a person is attacked, harmed or killed primarily based on those above mentioned the prosecutor can seek a stiffer prison sentence. It's no different than their applying the RICO ACT and stiffer sentencing laws now when crimes are committed where it's believe alleged gang activity was involved. Let's not keep trying to exploit the tragedy of that poor 13yr as a diversion and divisionary tactic. If the 13yr old tragedy wasn't being exploited, the very same people using it would be attacking the 13yr old asking why she was out after dark. I've heard that crowd before. Attack the victim**. You are right in one area, however. People do commit crimes all the time for various reason. We have pedophiles, child molesters, statuatory rapist. Spouses kill their spouse. Parents murder their children. Neighbor kill their neighbors. Serial killers go out and serial kill. Mass murderers do the same. The difference is they don't usually select their victims just because of the color of their skin, their ethnicity, their sexual preference, what religion they practice. At the time the thought for a hate crime bill was being considered, there were a lot of random attacks on people such as interracial couples going about their day walking down the street, gays, and minorities. The atmosphere was heightened with the problems.

March 31, 2012 at 11:02 a.m.
limric said...

A new day, and truth be known - When the going get weird -the weird turn pro!

Having read the postings regarding Clay’s cartoon and its subject matter, visa vi, the Trayvon Martin shooting, it is obvious that many of those willing to put their opinions out for debate have twisted this case to fit an unsubstantiated narrative and turn this into a race based event. (I)They have concluded, with NO EVIDENCE to justify such, that George Zimermann ‘murdered’ Trayvon Martin – if not with premeditation, then certainly without just cause, is thereby guilty of murder and should be imprisoned. The facts DO NOT back this up whatsoever.

This is fueled by race based self-promotion disguised as a demand for justice. The latest call for an escalation in peaceful civil disobedience or economic sanctions if George Zimmerman isn't arrested is a tactic used oh so well in the past by those fomenting this kind of anger – it is extortion! Even the NAACP know this as they have condemned Al Sharpton for his inflammatory rhetoric. They said, “Those attending Saturday's march and rally in Sanford will realize the difference between Sharpton's message and the NAACP's mission. They will have to make a judgment as to whether they want to follow the mission of the NAACP or follow what the Rev. Sharpton said.”

As for you Chet, saying I don’t have a dog in this fight is in itself a racist remark. Everyone let you babble on through the night and no one really called you out on your nonsense. You’ve added NOTHING of substance to the debate. The only thing you did was call everyone and everything liars – because they may not have agreed with your narrative and / or sentence (I) above.

I am not defending George Zimermann as I am not judging Trayvon Martin. BUT - Zimermann has not been charged nor convicted of ANY crime, yet he is being crucified in the court of public opinion as committing a hate-crime (which is thought crime), being a monster and murderer.

No justice – No peace” Is today’s rhetoric anyone’s idea of justice? Or is this a 21st century lynch mob? It is plainly obvious that the purpose of the likes of Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson et al is to turn this into a national black-white face-off. They don’t really want truth or justice. And by the looks of it they are succeeding very well.

March 31, 2012 at 11:18 a.m.
Lr103 said...

continued for harp339...


That's why legislation was sought in an attempt to curve and send a message that such crimes would not be tolerated on American soil. Pretty much like the stiffer gang laws that's been passed in TN. I don't agree with those either. As every crime committed now will likely be labeled gang just to get a stiffer prison sentence. Did the hate crime bill stop such crimes from taken place? I doubt it. They've just been legalized under the Stand Your Ground legislation.

I doubt very seriously if any law will actually prevent humans from harming and even killing one another. As you, I and every American and the world are recipients of one of the greatest crime scenes presently known throughout the universe. Mother Earth. But in a civilized society there must be laws to at least try to maintain some level of control to prevent us from completely wiping one another and the human race out.

March 31, 2012 at 11:20 a.m.
fairmon said...

Lr103 responded with.....

The Hate Crime Act was meant to punish people more severely who committed crimes against others based on their dislike of the individuals race, gender, religion, ethnicity, sexual preference etc. It doesn't imply that every crime that cross racial, ethnic, sexual preference lines etc. etc. are necessarily a hate crime. However, when a person is attacked, harmed or killed primarily based on those above mentioned the prosecutor can seek a stiffer prison sentence.

To me this says the penalty absent those reasons is not severe enough.

March 31, 2012 at 11:23 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Harp3339 said: “I haven't seen or read much but why is this being viewed as a white on black crime? The picture of the shooter I saw on the news didn't appear to be a caucasian male, he looked Hispanic.”

Personally, I think the spark that set off thie racial discrimination issue was the decision by Florida’s State Attorney to totally ignore the incident, which in my opinion was gross negligence. The State Attorney’s office had a duty to perform and they failed to do it. As to why Florida’s State Attorney’s office ignored their duty, I think it was a combination of cowardice and racial discrimination. I suspect they were trying to avoid opening a big potential political can of worms that their dangerously faulty “Stand Your Ground” law had presented, and they were betting that if they just let it slide by that there was a high probability that no one in Sanford would even take note that one more young black male had been shot and killed.

March 31, 2012 at 11:51 a.m.
stanleyyelnats said...

If ever you needed support for the indecency of man, simply read some of the comments on this thread of ideas.

Man's true nature manifest. < -- click

March 31, 2012 at 12:19 p.m.
shifarobe said...

Lr103, that's idiocy! Nobody is exploiting the shooting of that 13 year old girl. The question is , and it's a DAMN good one, why didn't Al Sharptongue and Jesse Jackass come down here and say enough is enough of this, or go to Chicago where black youths are picking each other off like ducks at a carnival shooting gallery. The facts is they don't give a crap. Racial harmony and real strides made toward stopping black on black crime don't put money in their pockets. They're crooks! It can't be overstated how much of a FOOL Jesse Jackson is for trying to stir up violence by proclaiming "blacks are under attack in America" because of this incident. The fact is blacks are being murdered by other blacks at an alarming rate. Nearly 100% of the people in this country have no interest in discriminating or harming other Americans. We're far too busy trying to survive, work and take care of our famililes. OBOOB, J.JACKASS and SHARPTONGUE have thrown fuel on the fire and should be held accountable.

March 31, 2012 at 1:47 p.m.
jjmez said...

shifarobe said... Lr103, that's idiocy! Nobody is exploiting the shooting of that 13 year old girl. The question is , and it's a DAMN good one, why didn't Al Sharptongue and Jesse Jackass come down here and say enough is enough of this, or go to Chicago where black youths are picking each other off like ducks at a carnival shooting gallery

(1.) Yes they are, shifarobe. I'm pretty darn sure the shooting of the 13 year old wouldn't have even entered the conversation if they weren't trying to excuse away the shooting of the 17 year old in Florida.

(2.) The Florida shooting went national and international because the state attorney failed to properly investigate a homicide. The chief of police went on local Florida media and specifically stated there would be no further investigation into the killing. As there was not enough evidence to make an arrest. HeLL! The evidence* is right there on those 911 calls the shooter made. The story would have remained local like so many others if there was at least a pretense of an investigation. There wasn't.

(3.) Al Sharpton is irrelevant in all of this. Middle-classed white America and well known celebrities, white, black and hispanic, have spoken out against the way this state attorney handled the case.

March 31, 2012 at 2:45 p.m.
shifarobe said...

Cow pies ! Who is excusing it? You don't know what you're talking about. I don't have all the information, and you don't either. You're just some dude yapping on a forum, like me. You have to wait for the grand jury. Why would they subject themselves to all of this venom, if they didn't have to? If they had enough to arrest him they would. What do they have to gain from it? What, it's some kind of conspiracy to eliminate all black teens who wear hoodies? They're doing a pretty damn good job of taking each other out. My point still stands. Where were the justice brothers after the 13 year old girl was hot in a gang crossfire??? THERE IS MONEY TO MADE IN PERPETUATING THE WHITE-BLACK THING. Jackson and Al Baby are rich from it. There's no grand plan by white people to shoot black teens and call it self-def. This all bull crap to help Obambi get his black base fired up against whitey. Just wait, stop jumping on it. If Zimmerman is guilty, so be it. If not, deal with it. I don't see white people rioting after OJ walked.

March 31, 2012 at 3:24 p.m.
chet123 said...

WELL,WELL,WELL....I THOUGHT THE RIGHT-WING REPUBLICAN WOULD NEVER COME OUT.....GUESS THEY HAD TO GO TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND START ALL OVER HA HA HA HA

WHERE SHALL I BEGIN..LET ME SEE Hmmmmmm.Hmmmm? OH YEAH I KNOW....I WILL RESPOND TO YOUR POSTS IN SEQUENCE ORDER....

LET ME START WITH LIMRIC....I THOUGHT YOU KNEW BETTER!...GUESS YOU ARE SHOWING YOUR TRUE COLORS..HA HA HA..THIS IS WHY I DONT BUDDY UP WITH DOUBLE TONGUE PEOPLE...OR PEOPLE THAT ARE WISHY-WASHY,RIDE THE FENCE OR PEOPLE THAT ARE LIGHT-WEIGHT ON ISSUES.

YOU HAVE WASTED TIME WRTING AN ESSAY THAT HIGHLY FLAWED...

(1). YOU SAID THEY HAVE CONCLUDED NO EVIDENCE???? MAY I ASK WHO IS THEY????..WHO IS THEY??..JUST WHO IS THEY LIMRIC...SO THEY ARE A JUDGE AND JURY!..HOW ABOUT A COURT OF LAW TO DO THAT...DO YOU KNOW HOW YOU SOUND....HOPE I NEVER HAVE ANYONE LIKE YOU FOR A FRIEND..YOU TRIED TO BE COOL WITH THAT CARTOON CHARACTER SMOKING A CIGARETTE BUT YOU MAY CHANGE THAT CHARACTER TO A MAN IN OVERALL AND A CORN PIPE..SAYING YEE HAW!...LIMRIC YOU ARE NO BETTER THAN JONESES

(2).RACE BAIT SELF PROMOTION HA HA HA HA WHAT DOES THAT MEAN??? ARE THOSE YOU TALKING POINT??? WHOSE BEING PROMOTED...PLEASE TELL ME.....YOU DEFEND A MAN THAT KILL A INNOCENT CHILD...Hmmmm MAYBE YOU HAVE A MOTIVE...Hmmmmm A HIDDEN MOTIVE

(3). NAACP CONDEMN AL SHARPTON...WHEN DID YOU GET A BE A SUPPORTER OF THE NAACP...THANKS GOD FOR AL SHARPTON...I ADMIT SHARPTON HAS A LOUD MOUTH....BUT THAT JUST WHAT THE JUSTICE SYSTEMS IN THIS COUNTRY NEED....SOMEONE WHO WILL LET THE WHOLE WORLD KNOW WHAT HYPOCRISY THIS COUNTRY HAVE IN THE RIGHT-WING REPUBLICAN PARTY..I KNOW YOU WANT THIS TO BE SWEPT UNDER THE RUG Shhhhh! Shhhhh!..keep it a secret Shhhhh! PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE BEING EXPOSED....AND THE WHOLE WORLD SHAKING THEIR HEAD

March 31, 2012 at 5:22 p.m.
chet123 said...

LIMRIC....YOU ARE SHOWING YOUR TRUE COLORS...HA HA HA HA.."AS FOR YOU CHET" SAYING I(LIMRIC)DONT HAVE A DOG IN THE FIGHT IS RACIST HA HA HA HA HA...LIMRIC YOU DONT!...AND IF YOU DO TELL ME WHAT IT IS!......TAKE YOUR TIME BECAUSE I WANT TO HEAR THE ANSWER TO THIS HA HA HA HA....I TOLD YOU THAT YOUR ESSAY IS A WASTE OF TIME..... LACE WITH FLAWED POSTING AND LIES.....NEXT!

March 31, 2012 at 5:31 p.m.
sangaree said...

according to: <em>gawker.com and other news sources

White Supremacist Hacks Trayvon Martin’s Email Account, Leaks Messages Online

The racist smear campaign against Trayvon Martin, the unarmed black teen shot to death last month in Florida, has reached a new level of ghoulishness. A white supremacist hacker says he's broken into Martin's email and social networking accounts, and leaked his private Facebook messages. We've been able to confirm that at least one email account that belonged to Martin was cracked.

But Klanklannon included none of Martin's emails in his leak, because the picture they paint is of a normal high school junior preparing for college. A screenshot of Trayvon's Gmail inbox our source provided us is heartbreaking. Martin apparently used his Gmail account for his college search, and it's filled with emails about upcoming SAT tests and scholarship applications. ("Trayvon, now is the best time to take the SATs!") One email included the results of a career aptitude test, our source said. It "talked about his interest in aeronautics and stuff."

Klanklannon has proven nothing more than the depths to which the racist amateur detectives who have spent days obsessing over every aspect of Trayvon Martin's short life will sink in their horrible quest to vet a dead teenager.

March 31, 2012 at 5:32 p.m.
chet123 said...

WHO DO I HAVE NEXT...WELL IF IT ISNT SHIFAROBE...LET ME SEE WHAT SHIFAROBE HAVE TO SAY....HE HAD ABOUT 24HRS TO GET HIS FABRICATIONS TOGETHER...LET ME READ HIS POSTING Hmmmmm..Hmmmmm HA HA HA HA HA Hmmmmmmm Hmmmmmmm HA HA HA HA Hmmmmm HA HA HA HA WHAT GRADE THIS GUY IN MAYBE 5TH GRADER HA HA

SHIFAROBE...YOU ARE NOT EVEN A LIGHT-WEIGHT...YOU ARE A FLY-WEIGHT HA HA HA HA....LET ME HELP YOU OUT..SEE YOU HAVE YOUR TALKING POINTS...BUT YOU GO ALL OVER THE PLACE HA HA HA YOU START OUT IN CHATTANOOGA THEN YOU GALLOP OFF TO CHICAGO

LET ME HELP YOU OUT SHIFAROBE....LET A SUPERIOR MIND TEACH YOU SOMETHING....YOU START OFF TALKING ABOUT A 13YEAR OLD GIRL THAT WAS SHOT...IT IS SO TRAGIC...I AGREE....BUT THIS IS WHERE YOU AND YOUR RIGHT-WING REPUBLICAN BUDDY JUST ABSOLUTELY LOOSES IT....LISTEN VERY CAREFULLY...YOU HAVE A FALSE ANALOGY....MUCH AS YOU WOULD LOVE TO EXPLOIT THIS LITTLE GIRL..YOUR ANALOGY IS FALSE...IN THAT CASE SHIFAROBE...AN ARREST WAS IMMEDIATELY MADE....THEY DIDNT LET THIS GUY GO HOME WITH A PAT ON THE BACK PACKING THE MURDER WEAPON TO CLEAN IT OFF...I WANT YOU AND YOUR BUDDY TO LISTEN....BECAUSE YOU ARE TONE-DEAF....LISTEN....EVENTHOUGH THIS GUY IS A JUVENILE...THIS GUY MAY BE CHARGE AS AN ADULT....THEY ARE THROWING THE BOOK AT HIM....THEY ARE PLACING HIM UNDER THE JAIL...AS YOUR ANALOGY AND YOUR RIGHT-WING HATER ANALOGY IS FLAWED....IN SIMPLE TERM YOU ARE COMPARING APPLES AND ORANGES....SORRY TO CRUSH YOU AGAIN SHIFAROBE

March 31, 2012 at 6:05 p.m.
chet123 said...

THAT WHY AL SHARPTON DIDNT COME HERE....JUSTICE WAS SERVED....YOU TALK ABOUT CHICAGO....WHAT THATS SUPPOSE TO MEAN....THOSE ARE GANG MEMBERS ...WHEN THEY ARE CAUGHT THEY ARE NOT RELEASED TO GO HOME WITHOUT A CHARGE.....SHIFAROBE.....YOU CANT DRAW A COMPARISON IN ANY OF YOUR AGRUMENTS...

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT GANG VIOLENT....I THINK IT IS APPALLING.....JUST AS I THINK HUSBAND WHO KILL THEIR WIVES ARE REPULSIVE...OR SERIAL KILLING...OR WHITE COLLAR CROOKS WHO RUN-OFF WITH PEOPLE LIFE SAVING AS ENRON DID..OR GROWN MEN WHO RAPES 5 YEAR OLD GIRLS.....NOW YOU WOULDNT BE GUILTY OF THAT WOULD YOU??? HA HA HA

MY POINT IS THAT YOU CANT GIVE ME ONE CASE IN THE HISTORY OF AMERICA WHERE LAW ENFORCEMENT HAVE LET A BLACK MAN WHO HAVE KILL A WHITE VICTIM...GO HOME WITH THE WEAPON...OR EVEN GO HOME ALONE...IN MANY CASES THEY ARE SHOT ON THE SPOT...I WILL BET YOU 100 DOLLARS TO YOUR DONUT..A BLACK MAN GOING HOME AFTER SHOOTING AN UNARM WHITE MAN???..THIS HAS NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER HAPPEN....AND IT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN SHIFAROBE....BUT IT DID HERE WITH A 17 YEAR OLD UNARM BOY....AND THIS NOT THE FIRST CASE....AMERICA HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF UNARM BLACK MEN AND EVEN BLACK BOYS BEING ASSASSINATED BY GOOD OLE BOYS...AND THE SHOOTER GET ACQUITTED BY A WHITE SOUTHERN BAPTIST JUDGE AND AN ALL WHITE SOUTHERN BAPTIST JURY.....THERE CLEARLY A DOUBLE STANDARD HERE AND HAVE BEEN FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS...ITS SO COMMON ITS HARD FOR YOU TO BELEIVE... WE SHOULDNT EVEN BE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION SHIFAROBE....BUT PEOPLE LIKE YOU THINK THIS IS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE..AS YOUR GRAND PARENTS AND PREACHERS USE TO SAY..."THIS IS OUR WAY OF LIFE" ..THIS IS HOW YOU WAS RAISED SHIFAROBE....GRAND PAPPY AND GRAND MAMA ALONE WITH YOUR SOUTHERN BAPTIST CHURCH TAUGHT YOU WRONG..AND AL SHARPTON IS LETTING THE WHOLE WORLD KNOW IT.....

SOUND OFF AL! HA HA HA HA

March 31, 2012 at 6:44 p.m.
chet123 said...

BY THE WAY....MY BEST FRIENDS ARE WHITE....THEY KNOW I'M ON HERE GIVING RIGHT-WING REPUBLICAN NIGHTMARES HA HA HA HA

THEY STILL LIVING IN FANASY WORLD.....CANT HANDLE REALITY....I THINK THEY STILL BELEIVE IN SANTA CLAUS HA HA HA HA

March 31, 2012 at 6:50 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

JJmez said: "The chief of police went on local Florida media and specifically stated there would be no further investigation into the killing. As there was not enough evidence to make an arrest. HeLL! The evidence is right there on those 911 calls the shooter made."*

Apparently, there is even more evidence now. Two different voice identification experts say the call for help was not George Zimmerman. Wonder why Florida's State Attorney didn't make an effort to check this out?

"As the Trayvon Martin controversy splinters into a debate about self-defense, a central question remains: Who was heard crying for help on a 911 call in the moments before the teen was shot?



A leading expert in the field of forensic voice identification sought to answer that question by analyzing the recordings for the Orlando Sentinel.



His result: It was not George Zimmerman who called for help.



Tom Owen, forensic consultant for Owen Forensic Services LLC and chair emeritus for the American Board of Recorded Evidence, used voice identification software to rule out Zimmerman.

Another expert contacted by the Sentinel, utilizing different techniques, came to the same conclusion."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/os-trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-911-20120331,0,250481.story

March 31, 2012 at 9:53 p.m.
shifarobe said...

Chet can't be for real. I tend to let it fly, but he must be on crack.

March 31, 2012 at 10:15 p.m.
chet123 said...

SHIFAROBE....WHAT ARE YOU TALIKNG ABOUT LET IT FLY....SHIFAROBE WHAT YOU SAY OR THINK IS NOT A FACTOR IN THIS CASE....THIS IS HOW YOU RIGHT-WING REPUBLICAN OPERATES....YOU CREDIBILITY IS SHOT....LET ME SAY IT AGAIN...YOUR CDEDIBILY IS SHOT.......

SHIFAROBE....YOU AND OTHER OF YOUR RIGHT-WING REPUBLICAN OWE AN APOLOGY TO THE MARTIN FAMILY FOR SLANDERING THEIR DIED SON NAME...THIS IS WHY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY CAN NOT GOVERN

YOU TOOK SIDE WITH A SUSPECT LIKE GEORGE ZIMMERMAN WHO HAD A SHADY RECORD AND PAST....YOU KNEW IT BUT YOU IGNORED IT...

THIS IS WHY SHARPTON HAVE GAIN SO MUCH INFLURENCE...YOU GAVE HIM ALL THE AMMONITION THAT HE NEEDED BY YOU CHOOSING TO DEFEND A THUG LIKE ZIMMERMAN....WE FIND OUT ZIMMERMAN WHOLE FAMILY HAVE BEEN LYING..THEY HAVE SCRIPTED THIS WHOLE LIE..ALSO JOE OLIVER WHO POP UP FROM NOWHERE.......

HOW CAN THIS COUNTRY TRUST YOUR PARTY TO MAKE COMPLEX DECISION ON FORIEGN AFFAIRS WHEN YOU CANT EVEN MAKE SIMPLE DECISIONS HERE IN AMERICA....

THANKS GOD FOR "BIG MOUTH" AL SHARPTON

March 31, 2012 at 11:53 p.m.
chet123 said...

THIS CASE HAS BEEN AN EYE OPENER....PEOPLE WHO I THOUGHT WAS GOOD PEOPLE SHOWED THEIR TRUE COLOR LIKE LIMRIC

I BEGGED LIMRIC TO STAY OUT OF IT....TOLD HIM HE DIDNT HAVE A DOG IN THE FIGHT....OHHHHHH LIMRIC SHOT HIS MOUTH OFF LIKE A 4TH OF JULY FIRE CRACKER......GAVE ME A PIECE OF HIS MIND AND MORE HA HA HA....THERE AN OLD SAYING THINK TWICE SPEAK ONCE....NOW LIMRIC CREDIBILITY IS SHOT

THIS WHAT LIMRIC GET FOR SIDING WITH THE RIGHT-WING LIKE A BENEDICT ARNOLD....HES DONE IN MY BOOK!

PEOPLE LIKE HIM USUALLY CRAWL OFF SOMEWHERE THEN CHANGE HIS NAME TO A NEW CHARACTER HA HA HA...I TRIED TO WARN HIM....BUT IT WAS IN HIM FROM THE BEGINING

April 1, 2012 at 12:02 a.m.
chet123 said...

I TOLD LIMRIC THAT ESSAY WAS A WASTSE OF TIME....AND IT WAS

April 1, 2012 at 12:03 a.m.
chet123 said...

WHERE ARE ALL THE RIGHT-WINGS NUT AT NOW.......THEIR NUMBER 1 TRADE MARD IS LYING

THEY CAN LIE....AND IF YOU CATCH THIS BUNCH IN A LIE THEY NEVER APOLOGIZE...SHOW NO REMORSE(THIS WHAT MAKE THEM DANGEROUS)THEY JUST GO TO ANOTHER LIE.....DO THEY REMIND YOU OF A GROUP OF PEOPLE IN A EUROPEAN NATION ABOUT 80YEARS AGO THAT BOX-CAR HUMANS Hmmmmmm?

April 1, 2012 at 7:23 a.m.
stanleyyelnats said...

I applaud the Chattanooga Times Freepress for allowing the exchange of ideas without censorship.

No matter how distorted.

April 1, 2012 at 12:11 p.m.
chet123 said...

THANK CHATTANOOGA TIMES-FREEPRESS....YOU ARE THE GREATEST!

April 2, 2012 at 8:25 a.m.
chet123 said...

HEY MICKEYRAT.....WHEN YOU GET THE COURAGE YOU AND I CAN DIALOGUE...BUT WHAT I DONT LIKE TO DO IS PLAY GAMES..NOW YOU HAVE INJECTED YOURSELF IN THIS ISSUE AS IF YOU ARE THE SOBER-HEAD AROUND HERE...BUT AT THE SAME TIME SNEAKING IN YOUR PROPANGANDA TAPE.....IF THE SANFORD POLICE HAD CONDUCTED THEMSELVES IN ETHICAL MANNER WITH "DUE PROCESS PROCEDURE AL SHARPTON WOULD BE SPENDING HIS TIME ELSEWHERE.....I THANK GOD EVERYDAY FOR AL SHARPTON...THIS WAS GOING TO BE A COVER-UP.....ARE YOU DISAPPOINTED THAT AL SHARPTON IS SHINING THE SPOT LIGHT ON IT..Hmmmmmm WHO MADE YOU GOD....WHO MADE THE SANFORD POLICE GOD...AND WHO MADE THAT JERK ZIMERMAN GOD TO DECIDE WHO LIVE AND DIE....I NOTICE PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE SCARED OF AL SHARPTON....IS IT BECAUSE YOU CANT BUY HIM...IS IT BECAUSE HE HAVE A BIG MOUTH AND A MEGAPHONE SPEAKER THAT SOUNDS AROUND THE WORLD

NOTICE YOU DIDNT SAY ANYTHINNG ABOUT THE 17YEAR OLD YOUTH..YOU ARE TOO BUSY DEFENDING THE CHILD KILLER.....MAYBE YOU JUST DONT CARE AS LONE AS YOUR BROTHER OR SON IS NOT AFFECTED......BOZO LIKE YOU WOULD BE WHINING AND RAISING CAIN IF THIS HAD BEEN A DOG(IE MICHAEL VICK)SO DOG LIFE HAVE MORE VALUE THAN A HUMAN LIFE...Hmmmm MAYBE THE MUSLIM ARE RIGHT...A SEGMENT OF AMERICAN ARE INFIDELS HA HA HA HA

I GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO DO....YOU SIMPLY NEED TO KEEP YOUR MOUTH CLOSE IF YOU TOO SCARETY TO DIALOGUE WITH ME......REALLY AMAZING!

April 4, 2012 at 9:21 a.m.
chet123 said...

I REALLY FEEL SORROW FOR A MAN WHO HAVE TO GO TO PROPAGANDA LINKS, FOX TV AND RUSH LIMBAUGH FOR HIS SOURCE.....WHAT A WEAK MAN!

April 4, 2012 at 9:24 a.m.
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