published Tuesday, November 6th, 2012

Time to Choose

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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Salsa said...

I hope we get a Change.

November 6, 2012 at 12:04 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Silly

November 6, 2012 at 12:20 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Hope & Change. And don't forget revenge.

November 6, 2012 at 12:30 a.m.

Mitt Romney's certainly done enough position-shifting to qualify.

First he was a moderate back when he ran for Senator and Governor, then he turned into a severe conservative for this primary, then Etch-a-Sketch back into some semblance of moderation.

Promising hope and change, or so he claims.

At least some of the other Republican candidates had the courage of their convictions.

As for Obama, I do wish Obama had been a lot less willing to compromise and give in on so many important issues. GOP pretenses of divisiveness to the contrary, he's met them more than halfway on so many issues. Even including his healthcare reform law.

I would have preferred more backbone.

But at least he admits his positions have changed. Mitt's just adopting a new one without expecting us to notice.

Not to mention mendacity like his size of the Navy complaints, or that recent revenge bit.

Wake me up with Chris Christie throws his hat into the ring for 2016.

November 6, 2012 at 12:39 a.m.
LumFan said...

I choose Hope and Change over Etch-a-Sketch and PX90.

November 6, 2012 at 12:58 a.m.
jesse said...

I think your right Bulbs,Christi will be the man in 2016!

IF he don't keel over from a coronary before then!!

November 6, 2012 at 5:15 a.m.
ricardo said...

After all the name-calling and rhetoric, it's finally time to decide. The American people are too smart to believe the lies and innuendo. We can think for ourselves, instead of having BS spoonfed to us by pundits. I hope everyone gets out and votes, no matter what your ideology.

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

November 6, 2012 at 5:39 a.m.
jesse said...

If Obama wins(and i think he will!)We can survive 4 more years of him better than 8 years of Romney!

After 4 more years of Obama's ineptness the nation will be fired up for some REAL change and will be looking for a no b/s take charge damn the torpedo's type ! And hopefully will be fed up w/the congress enough to vote about 2/3/of them out of office! THEN, MAYBE, we will start to get the country back on track,but the next 4 years are gonna be Hard times!

November 6, 2012 at 5:58 a.m.
EaTn said...

As you cast your ballot today for the president of this great land, just remember that your vote does not directly count. It gets thrown into a state pile where that majority gets all the state electorates and they will vote for the president.

November 6, 2012 at 6:10 a.m.
Oz said...

After 4 years of Smoke and Mirrors, I'm ready for some R&R.....Romney/Ryan 2012

November 6, 2012 at 7:24 a.m.
WhitesCreek said...

The man who got Bin Laden, or the man who got 4 draft deferments and spent the war in France?

November 6, 2012 at 7:44 a.m.
moon4kat said...

Brilliant, Clay. Thanks.
President Obama hasn't done all he promised, thanks to GOP efforts to make him fail. Meanwhile, we have NO idea what Romney really stands for. We've only seen what Romney will fall for: pandering to extremists here (right-wing racists who disbelieve scientific proof) and abroad (saber-rattling war-mongers like Netanyahu). His business experience consists largely of stripping US companies of assets, firing workers, and sending profits off-shore. Plus, he hides his tax returns, saying we would misunderstand them. He's too comfortable about lying to us, and he's hiding too much.

November 6, 2012 at 7:47 a.m.
fairmon said...

EaTn said...

As you cast your ballot today for the president of this great land, just remember that your vote does not directly count. It gets thrown into a state pile where that majority gets all the state electorates and they will vote for the president.

Do you think the intent of the electoral college process is no longer valid? That may be true with today's mobility and access to information etc. However, in this election the turn out in many northeastern states (popular votes) may be way down but the electoral college will likely yield the same results as a higher number of voters would have. The lower turnout and loss of popular votes in those states favoring Obama may increase Romney's popular vote nation wide, maybe getting more than Obama, but would not change the electoral college results making Obama the winner. A major downside to the electoral process is the elected persons ability to vote different than the reason they were selected.

November 6, 2012 at 7:49 a.m.
jesse said...

If this is a "BRILLIANT" cartoon then i am a Ethiopian kamikazi pilot,and i DON"T even fly!!

Bennett's work is mediocre at best!(most of the time!)

November 6, 2012 at 7:52 a.m.
fairmon said...

Congress is the culprit. The POTUS winner will not be able to do much about anything unless he is willing to veto a lot and even that may not work. Some of the dumbest most incompetent people are able to win a congressional seat. Watching and listening to them is proof neither party has a lock on the tendency to select idiots for those positions. It is evident very few people keep up with and know what their elected representatives are doing.

Connelly wanted to make Obama a one term president from day one before knowing how he would do as president. Schumer thinks the three branches of government are the house, the senate and the administration. His current initiative is to regulate those wire brushes people clean grills with. Then there is the old gentleman from Georgia that thinks more troops on Guam may tilt the island and cause it to sink. A book could be written about those people in congress that are not qualified. The fact way too many are lawyers suggest a capable and successful business manager may not be willing to serve and put up with all the political crap.

November 6, 2012 at 7:58 a.m.
fairmon said...

What is the best guess of when we will know who is elected? Will it be known in the next 30 days with all the challenges and litigation that is likely?

November 6, 2012 at 8:09 a.m.
patriot1 said...

This is hillarious.....Jack referenced this before

November 6, 2012 at 8:15 a.m.
degage said...

The Bait and switch is what happened in 2008. Obama promised a lot of things he didn't live up to. The change he promised was for the worse but so many libs fail to see it because they have their head in the sand.

I know a man that doesn't like Obama but is voting for him because, ( in his own words) "I have always voted democrat and I always will." I say that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

Have you heard about the SEIU in Nv registering illegals to vote. Seems a law suit has been brought to stop it.

November 6, 2012 at 8:30 a.m.
mymy said...

FINALLY!!!!

Interesting billboard

http://www.ottawacountypatriots.org/2012/10/1153/

November 6, 2012 at 8:48 a.m.
jesse said...

Got rained out,my my, gonna try again thurs!

November 6, 2012 at 8:53 a.m.
whatsnottaken said...

We hoped for change 4 years and nothing has happened. Still got Black Panthers patrolling polling sites in Philly. The Pres's bodyguards still out in force. I'll take the bait and switch for 4 Alex.

November 6, 2012 at 8:53 a.m.
mymy said...

Revenge or Love of Country?

"These are the pictures of an administration. Every image is a key image from the presidency of Barack Obama. And every image is the image of a commander-in-chief who has led America astray."

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/06/Four-More-Years

November 6, 2012 at 8:55 a.m.
conservative said...

alprova, Regarding your "Begotten, in the Bible, is a word used to describe the paternal relationship with one's offspring."

"begotten"in the Bible, a word used to describe "paternal" relationship with one's "offspring."

Well now, who is taking who for a "half wit?"

For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? Hebrews 1:5

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned . 1 Corinthians 2:14

November 6, 2012 at 9:01 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

jesse: Methinks Christie is done as a repub....maybe future with the dems.

November 6, 2012 at 9:24 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Wow, what a stunningly uninspired piece of work on such an important day. You truly suck Bennett!

November 6, 2012 at 9:25 a.m.
alprova said...

degage wrote: "I know a man that doesn't like Obama but is voting for him because, ( in his own words) "I have always voted democrat and I always will." I say that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard."

It's no more dumb than witnessing the musings of Republican cheerleaders doing the very same thing, who will be stepping into a voting booth to attempt to elect one of the worst Republican candidates that has ever existed.

To think that Mitt Romney is the best man to have emerged from the pack of candidates that the Republican Party put up to run for office this time around, says a great deal about how pathetic the Republicans have become.

The last great Republican candidate who ran and was elected was Ronald Reagan. He was a popular Republican Governor who carried the state of California as well as the rest of the nation with the exception of six states. In 1984, he carried all but one state to be reelected to a second term.

Mitt Romney departed Massachusetts as a rather unpopular Governor, who will not be receiving the electoral votes from that state today. He will likely not be receiving the electoral votes from the state of his birth.

Mitt will not carry Ohio, despite his claim that his "internal polls" state otherwise. Perhaps had he not stuck to his very misleading Jeep ad, might he have had a chance to convince people in that state that he was a viable candidate.

That's three strikes. His time at bat is over.

Better luck in 2016 Republican cheerleaders. You've got four years to find another Ronald Reagan.

November 6, 2012 at 9:29 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

JAY LENO: President Obama's campaign adviser David Axelrod said that Obama's final campaign speeches are coming from his loins. They are coming from his loins. Now don't confuse that with Joe Biden. He's talking mostly out his ass. That is totally, that is totally different. Don't get that confused.

heartbeat away

November 6, 2012 at 9:33 a.m.
mymy said...

Video: Black Panthers Return to Philly Polling Place

Sponsored by Obama and Holder!!!!!!

http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2012/11/06/Report-Obama-Attempts-to-Steal-Philly-Black-Panthers-In-Repub-Poll-Workers-out

November 6, 2012 at 9:39 a.m.
jesse said...

Jack,after whats gittin ready to go down for the next 4 year the entire GAME of politics is gonna change!

1st.off Benghazi is gonna wind up bigger than Monicagate,#2 the econ is gonna tank worse than 2008!#3 The repubs are smart enough to know they gotta quit runnin these DUDDS!#4 Biden has allready stated "i don't think this is the last time i will vote for myself!" If the dems run Uncle Joe in 2016 all the repubs have to do is dhow up!(Hillery is all done,stick a fork in her!) Romney is gonna lose so therefore Christi will come out of this stronger than going in!

November 6, 2012 at 9:44 a.m.
JustOneWoman said...

"No need to watch the returns Tuesday, this is how it'll go down."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251215545

This might interesting to see if it goes this way.

Many do not realize the state game is how it is played. But many Obama voters in red states are getting the vote out to win the popular vote as well. This is going to be fun! I am off to vote!

November 6, 2012 at 9:46 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

jesse: mostly agree....I do think Christie burned a bridge, however. Saying thanks is one thang.....penetration quite another.

November 6, 2012 at 10:16 a.m.
facyspacy said...

Left excuses.... It's always somebody else's fault. "the only reason Obama didn't have a successful term is because of congress.... Because of the republicans.... Because he was handed a mess." That no good excuse for a president made promises 4 years ago to make a change. No more BS for me.you got a job to do, do it. Don't tell me why it didn't happen.

November 6, 2012 at 10:31 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

BIPARTISANSHIP IS A PARTISAN ISSUE

Jack the Jester whined, “Methinks Christie is done as a repub.... maybe future with the dems.”

Good grief. Imagine Obama’s audacity to help streamline relief efforts with ALL the governors of states devastated by the storm. BTW that’s part of the job.

How would you pinheads have responded if the President flew over the Jersey shore in AF1 and then dawdled a few days before watching the DVD highlights?

You tea baggers have a weird view of the world. Not everything is a partisan political issue.

Get a life.

November 6, 2012 at 10:35 a.m.
limric said...

It would be fair to say the ‘Bait & Switch’ prize be awarded Mr. Obama. The instances are legion!
Mr. Romney on the other hand is a shape shifter worthy of the best science fiction authors, and leaves an important question unanswered: “Who is this guy, he doesn’t seem to believe in anything?”

Voter suppression in all its nefarious forms can really be summed up this way, Obama / Romney. There are others on the ballot (I voted for an ‘other’) but in the end, it is our lack of real choices that are being suppressed.

The quote below is an apropos introduction to the 21st century elites, the American electorate and the linked essay.

*“Those who have put out the people’s eyes, reproach them of their blindness.” :Milton

‘The S&M Election*’ by Chris hedges

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_sm_election_20121105/

Best of luck to us all.
The Revolution WILL be televised.

November 6, 2012 at 10:37 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

My life is fine, backwater. Christie did himself no favors with his party. His remarks were well-intended; just over the top. The president's flyover is ceremonial at best...Bush's and Obama's. The relief in the NE is a cluster-eff , as was the one in NO. One disaster covered by a vicious press; one covered by a suck-up press. Plain to see by all, except you partisan hacks.

November 6, 2012 at 10:42 a.m.
conservative said...

alprova, regarding your " but when Abraham was demanded by God to sacrifice Isaac...Ishmael simply might not have been born yet." and "Therefore, at the time that he was asked to sacrifice Isaac to God, it is completely plausible that Isaac may have, at that time, indeed been Abraham's only begotten Son."

But alprova, you initially made the assertion that there was a "contradiction" and now you offer an explanation wherein you offer there is NO "contradiction." Remember this was in your mind a contradiction which you "confirmed."

So, you have trapped yourself in your own "contradiction" as well as made a false claim!

November 6, 2012 at 10:52 a.m.
ibshame said...

"jesse said... Jack,after whats gittin ready to go down for the next 4 year the entire GAME of politics is gonna change!

"1st.off Benghazi is gonna wind up bigger than Monicagate,"

I have no doubt if President Obama should win the wing nuts will try to make this as big as Monicagate, but it's not going to work. Not unless they want to revisit all the screw-ups and lies that got us into an unnecessary war in Iraq that cost the lives of more than 4000 U.S. soldiers and sent hundreds of thousands back home maimed for life. If the wingnuts think they're going somewhere with Benghazi they can forget it.

"#2 the econ is gonna tank worse than 2008!"

That of course is what wingnuts would like for everyone to believe but if President Obama should be re-elected that lie will sooon be one to go away rather quickly. Economists are already saying REGARDLESS of who gets elected the economy is going to get better.

"#3 The repubs are smart enough to know they gotta quit runnin these DUDDS!#"

Unfortunately, the wingnuts in the Republican Party know no such thing. They will continue to run candidates who will move their party even further right. They have ignored Latinos, African Americans and alienated women. If President Obama is re-elected it will be because he put together a coalition of these groups rather than depend on just the white vote as Mitt Romney has done. The only way the wingnuts won't get their way as far as candidates is if some of the more moderate members of the Republican Party(if there are any left out there) join forces with the true conservatives of their party to force the wingnuts out.

"4 Biden has allready stated "i don't think this is the last time i will vote for myself!" If the dems run Uncle Joe in 2016 all the repubs have to do is dhow up!(Hillery is all done,stick a fork in her!)"

If Hillary wants the nomination in 2016, she will get it. It just remains to be seen if she truly does not want it. Joe Biden will be a formidable opponent for the Dems should Hillary not want the nomination.

November 6, 2012 at 10:59 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

conservative: Please don't encourage Cliff Claven, AKA Alpo.

November 6, 2012 at 11 a.m.
jesse said...

I 'm an agnostic BUT damn if i ain't about ready to get on my knees and just pray to whatever that conservative would JUST GET OVER IT!!

November 6, 2012 at 11 a.m.
jesse said...

Well ibshame ,its obvious we see the next 4 years playing out diff.

Just have to wait and see!

November 6, 2012 at 11:09 a.m.
Walden said...

You nailed it Clayboy. That is exactly what today's election represents. We can choose the Hope and Change that Mitt Romney represents, or we can stick to the Bait and Switch that Obama has demonstrated through his historic election in 2008 and the subsequent 4 years of "governing." To wit, Democrat Matt Stoller writes in the liberal website Salon:

"Obama defenders for the most part simply do not address the core moral question in evaluating the role of any political leader, which is whether the lives of their constituents have improved during that leader’s term and whether society is more just. And the outcomes for Americans under Obama – a historically higher student debt burden, deleveraging of debt occurring only through defaults, larger banks than existed before the crisis, a crushing foreclosure crisis, higher inequality, and a falling median net income – suggest that for most, the answer is no. What people care about – whether their lives are better overall – is basically irrelevant in their calculus."

Hope and Change have morphed from a lot of sound and fury signifying nothing, to a true description of what Mitt Romney will provide to this Country. This is why I shall be voting for Romney/Ryan today.

November 6, 2012 at 11:22 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

Solyndra is dead and Gitmo is alive. Time to hope for a change?

harp, if Congress is to blame now, is the Pelosi-Read congress elected in A.D. 2006 to blame for the great recession and the worst 'recovery' since the great depression?

I expect Gov Romney to carry Tennessee easily (and the country), so rather than waste a vote on him I expect to vote for Virgil Goode (Constitution Party), to try to nudge him in the right direction.

This with respect to Gary Johnson (Libertarian Party), but since he approves of fornication and abortion, and Goode is available, I won't vote for him this time; and with respect to those who do vote for Gov Romney as probably less bad than Pres Obama. If voting "against" a candidate, with such votes to be subtracted from votes for a candidate, were an option, I might vote against Pres Obama, but I personally can't vote for the author of O'Romneycare, distorter via surrogates re Gingrich and Santorum, thief and bully re Ron Paul. Unless he repents, as God himself requires of us sinners if we want salvation in Christ Jesus, the one and only Savior. I haven't heard that he's repented of any of this.

November 6, 2012 at 11:22 a.m.
mzungu said...

Sounds like the TeaBaggers and Republicans are already lining up their litany of excuses on why they lost. Again. When a McCain/Palin or Romney/Ryan ticket is the best you can trot out there, what do you expect?

November 6, 2012 at 11:28 a.m.
patriot1 said...

Alpo: What do you mean "YOU'VE got four years to find another Ronald Reagan"... I thought you was a "registered" republican?

November 6, 2012 at 11:29 a.m.
jesse said...

Hey Andrew,maybe they ALL repented of their sins BUT forgot to call you up and inform you of it!!

Or unlike you they keep their private stuff private instead of playing the sanctimonious card! We all know your are batsh!t crazy,you don't have to keep demonstrating it!

November 6, 2012 at 11:30 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

ALL FEMA’S WERE NOT CREATED EQUAL

Michael Brown received a patronage appointment by his long-time friend, then-FEMA director Joe Allbaugh, who also ran Bush's election campaign in 2000. George W. Bush appointed Brown director of FEMA in 2003 but resigned in disgrace a month after Katrina hit.

Republican Craig Fugate accepted Obama’s appointment to head FEMA when Obama expressed a desire to restore FEMA and make it functional once again. Fugate previously served as Director of the Florida Division of Emergency Management. He was appointed by republican Governor Jeb Bush in 2001 and later re-appointed by republican Governor Charlie Crist.

Those damned partisan Democrats!

November 6, 2012 at 11:40 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

GETTING READY

Glad to see the usual suspects are lining up their excuses for why Romney lost.

November 6, 2012 at 12:10 p.m.
hambone said...

One thing I know for sure.

Come wednesday morning the winners will start raising money for their re-election!

November 6, 2012 at 12:24 p.m.
chatt_man said...

JustOneWoman - Good luck voting, I hope you're the right color to get past the Black Panther group, that needs knocked on their a$$.

November 6, 2012 at 12:31 p.m.
ibshame said...

"tu_quoque said... Elsewhere in the city, a representative from the New Black Panther Party was also spotted outside a polling site. The New Black Panthers stirred controversy in 2008 when members appeared outside a polling site, one of them holding a billy club."

Is this the best you can do to try to make an equivalency to all the Voter Suppression efforts by the Repubs in Ohio and Florida? IF FOR ONE MOMENT YOU THINK THIS SO-CALLED "NEW BLACK PANTHER PARTY" IS ANYTHING LIKE THE REAL BLACK PANTHER PARTY OF HUEY NEWTON THEN IT'S OBVIOUS YOU KNOW NOTHING OF HISTORY. But then again you have proven on a daily basis you don't have a clue. Keep on cutting and pasting though, it gives you something to do and may prove of great comfort to you and those like you should Mitt Romney lose tonight. Might be the next best thing to basket-weaving. LOL

November 6, 2012 at 1 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

libshame: So now you're an expert on the New Black Panthers? lol

November 6, 2012 at 1:03 p.m.
jesse said...

I'm kinda startin to get the idea that ibshame is an EXPERT on everything,at least in her own mind!

She could prob.tell you where light goes when it goes out!!

November 6, 2012 at 1:16 p.m.
chatt_man said...

ibeshame - you only have to study the history of the last year to know that there were individuals dressing like and claiming to be representing the New Black Panther party standing out in front of polling locations for intimidation purposes. No copy, no paste, with my own eyes I saw those pantywaste.

November 6, 2012 at 1:44 p.m.
jesse said...

Tu qou, before this is over it's gonna bite a buncha folks on the azz no mater who wins today!

It will,before it's over kill any ambitions Hillery has post Obama and puts Biden up as the heir apparent which will work for me in 4 years! in 2016 maybe the repub's will field a candidate that has some credibility and can relate! If Biden is the man then all the repub have to do is show up!

November 6, 2012 at 1:49 p.m.
Leaf said...

tu: Hey, could you beat your Benghazi conspiracy theory a little more? I never get tired of it. By the way, what's your take on the Roswell UFOs?

November 6, 2012 at 1:54 p.m.
chatt_man said...

Leaf, are you thinking there's no more proof in the Benghazi thing than there is in Roswell UFO's? If so, I believe you're in for a treat in the near future. Re-elected, or not, I also think Obama can't distance himself from this as easily as he tried in Fast and Furious. Executive privilege... what an absolutely pitiful example of a man. Somebody get him a blankey.

November 6, 2012 at 2:03 p.m.
ibshame said...

"Jack_Dennis said... libshame: So now you're an expert on the New Black Panthers?" "chatt_man said... ibeshame - you only have to study the history of the last year to know that there were individuals dressing like and claiming to be representing the New Black Panther party standing out in front of polling locations for intimidation purposes. No copy, no paste, with my own eyes I saw those pantywaste."

Three Black Men show up CLAIMING to be members of the so-called "New Black Panther" Party and all of a sudden they are there for the purpose of intimidation? Who exactly are they going to intimidate?

As for the REAL Black Panther Party of Huey Newton, one need look no further than the volumes of info written about the Black Panther Party and the war against the group waged by Herbert Hoover's FBI to understand this group you think is supposedly the NEW BLACK PANTHER PARTY has nothing in common with Huey Newton's Black Panther Party other than the fact they are using the name.

Of course reading through that kind of material as well as documented history would be a stretch for some. It's far easier to believe this group is just as organized as Newton's Panthers because they claim to be "NEW" but they are not.

November 6, 2012 at 2:15 p.m.
chatt_man said...

ibeshame - you don't get it. You're the only one concerned with the REAL Black Panther party and Huey Newton (was he a singer that sang with The News)?

No one cares to read about that crap.

November 6, 2012 at 2:21 p.m.
miraweb said...

Jack observes - Methinks Christie is done as a repub....maybe future with the dems.

Someone once said never underestimate the ability of good Republicans to lock arms and walk off a cliff.

There are political hacks who think taking revenge on the party's most popular governor is a move to the future.

There are party puritans who did not see the libertarians walking away because of the train wreck in privacy and civil liberties; the youth walking away because of bigotry against gays; the women walking away because of too many right fools speaking utter nonesense; the Latino's walking away because their families are not treated with justice and respect.

It is very possible the Republicans will walk away from Chris Christie.

If they do they will walk themselves right into oblivion.

November 6, 2012 at 2:35 p.m.
ibshame said...

"chatt_man said... ibeshame - you don't get it. You're the only one concerned with the REAL Black Panther party and Huey Newton (was he a singer that sang with The News)? No one cares to read about that crap."

You don't get it and your kind probably never will. I'm not concerned about the NEW BLACK PANTHER PARTY and neither should anyone else be concerned. However, I am concerned about the ACTUAL VOTER SUPPRESSION EFFORTS THAT HAVE BEEN ON DISPLAY FOR THE WORLD TO SEE IN PLACES LIKE OHIO, FLORIDA AND OTHER STATES WHERE THEY HAVE SYSTEMATICALLY TRIED TO SUPPRESS THE VOTE THROUGH WHATEVER MEANS THEY CAN FIND.

November 6, 2012 at 2:50 p.m.
chatt_man said...

Please do expand, ole wise one.

November 6, 2012 at 2:54 p.m.
ibshame said...

GO AWAY LITTLE DOGGIES

"True The Vote Barred From Ohio Polling Stations"

The right-wing group True The Vote has been prohibited from monitoring elections in voting stations around Columbus, Ohio, and may soon find itself under investigation for fraud, the Columbus Dispatch reported Tuesday.

The Houston-based group, which is dedicated to challenging the legitimacy of voters it considers suspect, had its status as an official vote monitor denied in Franklin County, after the necessary number of candidates to assign poll observers withdrew their support for the group, according to the Dispatch.

Elections officials in Franklin County told the paper that some of application forms requesting observer status for the group's Ohio branch, the Voter Integrity Project, appeared to have supporting names that were falsified or forged.

True The Vote President Catherine Engelbrecht denied the charges in a strongly worded statement and warned the group would be taking legal action.

"This is a final, desperate attempt to deny citizens their right to observe elections," said Engelbrecht. "The Ohio Democratic Party has projected paranoia on an international scale by promoting the idea that concerned citizens would dare observe elections to ensure a fair process. If the Ohio Democratic Party thinks True the Vote-trained poll watchers are legion, wait until it meets our lawyers.”

True The Vote has come under fire lately for appearing to focus its energies largely on minority voters. Last week, ABC News reported that True The Vote had been taking minority voters in Cincinnati to court to force them to prove the validity of their registration, and had plans to send observers to minority-heavy polling areas to confront voters on Election Day.

As far back as 2010, the group faced accusations -- and even a Department of Justice investigation -- into reports that its hunt for voter fraud is tantamount to organized voter intimidation.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/06/true-the-vote-ohio_n_2082362.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

November 6, 2012 at 3:11 p.m.
miraweb said...

Voting Machines Sparking Complaints

The Election Protection Coalition, comprised of more than 100 local organizations dedicated to protecting the right to vote, reported 53,000 complaint calls by 2 p.m. Eastern time. Calls to “our hotline are spiking,” said one official with the Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights under Law, a lead organization in the coalition, ate 2p.m.

Many of the problems were coming from battleground states, including recurrent voting machine breakdowns and malfunctions in traditionally Democratic areas of Ohio including Cleveland, Dayton and Toledo.

A central Pennsylvania voter took a video of the voting machine assigned to him. When he pressed the square to select Barack Obama for president, the machine registered the vote for Mitt Romney. The machine was taken offline after he showed the video to local officials, according to an MSNBC report.

http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05election/2012/11/06/thousands-report-voting-problems/

November 6, 2012 at 3:20 p.m.
chatt_man said...

ibeshame - Looks like all is going normal and legally here. They thought a group was targeting a specific group of people to verify the validity of their registration, and they have taken steps to investigate that.

This has nothing in common with people standing out in front of a polling place to intimidate voters with Black Panther logos and billy clubs. Yet, nothing was even said to them, so here they are again this year. When True The Vote starts wearing pointed hats, get back to me.

Huffington Post - really? That's like me pasting an article from Michael Savage.

November 6, 2012 at 3:28 p.m.
miraweb said...

No Backup Scanners in Ohio?

Swint, who voted about 8:30 a.m. at Parma Park Elementary School, was told to insert his ballot in a slot on the bottom of the machine because it wasn't working.

"I didn't think it was an issue at the time," Swint said. "But once I got into my car I felt a little strange, almost like it [my ballot] was cast aside."

"To be honest, it was scary," Ellis said. "You look forward to this day and you get there and you have to wonder does my vote count when I walk out and I'm sticking my ballot in this secret hole and it says it's not being counted."

Ellis, who has voted in every election since she was 18, said the workers said her vote would be counted. But she left unsure.

Also in Cleveland, Troy Kaczorowski said the two scanning machines at his Villa Angela precinct were not working.

"I got up there to put my vote in and they just had the big gray boxes with the slits in it," Kaczorowski said. It took him about 45 minutes to vote. At Moreland Hills Precinct B, Todd Underwood said he waited "maybe five minutes" around 8 a.m. The workers there indicated the scanners were down and asked him to put his vote in a black canvas bag.

"They said it would be counted at a later time," Underwood said. "I'm assuming everything will be fine."

http://www.cleveland.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/11/voting_equipment_down_at_scatt.html#incart_river_default#incart_big-photo

November 6, 2012 at 3:35 p.m.
mtngrl said...

Fox News obsessed with lone Black Panther

"Fox News has featured several segments today on Jerry Jackson, who was charged in 2008 for voter intimidation, although the charges against him were later dropped. Jackson was spotted outside a Philadelphia polling place Tuesday morning, and Fox News confirmed Jackson is a designated poll watcher."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/11/fox-news-obsessed-with-lone-black-panther-148638.html

November 6, 2012 at 3:37 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

libshame: You need to quit while you're not ahead. New Black Panthers with billy club at polling site is nothing to worry about? Are you kidding me?

November 6, 2012 at 3:39 p.m.
conservative said...

alprova, Regarding your "I took two years of Bible literature courses during my high school years, taught by a wonderful woman who really knew the intricacies of the Bible and who could explain just about everything in a way that a five year old could understand things."

" taught by a wonderful woman who really knew the intricacies of the Bible"

I hope that she wasn't the one who taught you this nonsense " at the time that he was asked to sacrifice Isaac to God, it is completely plausible that Isaac may have, at that time, indeed been Abraham's only begotten Son."

November 6, 2012 at 3:51 p.m.
mtngrl said...

Chance of winning:

Obama: 90.9%

Rmoney: 9.1%

November 6, 2012 at 4:21 p.m.
miraweb said...

Make Your Own Electoral College with the BBC

The BBC has a nice electoral college interactive:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19794259

November 6, 2012 at 4:37 p.m.
chatt_man said...

mtngrl - we can't grow the kind of stuff you're smokin' down here.

Is that hydroponic or synthetic?

November 6, 2012 at 4:52 p.m.
mtngrl said...

It's based on actual data chatt_man. I just forgot the link this time:

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

November 6, 2012 at 4:54 p.m.
chatt_man said...
November 6, 2012 at 5:27 p.m.
dude_abides said...

tu_quoque said...

"CBS News quietly released proof--two days before the election, far too late to reach the media..."

WexactlyTF does that mean? I would have thought that CBS News would be considered part of the media.

November 6, 2012 at 7:34 p.m.
dude_abides said...

But it was so quiet, nooga. Are you sure it's a she?

Why is the BBC able to call races before American news stations?

November 6, 2012 at 9:46 p.m.
dude_abides said...

The dude_ is now ready to project that Todd Akin got legitimately a$$ raped, and you people on the right may now put down your Koolaid. Consider yourself owned and foolish. I expect a bunch of new names and avatars from here on out. When you reincarnate yourselves, try not to give away your original identities.

November 6, 2012 at 10:25 p.m.
miraweb said...

There may be some real trouble for Romney in Virginia. Right now he is about 70,000 votes in the lead. The problem is there are about a 140,000 Democratic votes still expected in Fairfax Co.

Should be very close.

November 6, 2012 at 10:43 p.m.
dude_abides said...

When I think back on all the crap I learned in high school,

It's a wonder I can think at all.

But my lack of education hasn't hurt me none,

I can read the writing on the wall. -Paul Simon

November 6, 2012 at 10:44 p.m.
miraweb said...

There are some good county-by-county maps on the NY Times site.

At that level, it looks like the south is splitting urban vs rural. Southern cities are growing - that really could change the landscape over time.

There are also strong corridors of Latino voters in south Texas and south Florida.

If the Republicans want to win anything at all in the future, they are going to need Latino votes.

November 6, 2012 at 10:49 p.m.
ricardo said...

OBAMA/BIDEN: 4 MORE YEARS!!!

November 6, 2012 at 11:15 p.m.
alprova said...

Wisconsin, Iowa, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, Oregon...all in Obama's basket.

If Nevada, and just any one of the states of Nevada, Colorado, Ohio, Virginia, or Florida go blue, it...is...game...over.

Obama will be elected to a second term.

Nevada is very likely to go to Obama.

Colorado is leaning towards Obama.

Ohio is leaning to Obama.

Oh never mind....

Ohio just went to Obama.

He just won!!!

November 6, 2012 at 11:18 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Dick Morris: Mitt Romney “Landslide” Victory with more than 300 Electoral Votes

So 300 is a landslide?

November 6, 2012 at 11:19 p.m.
raygunz said...

What's that sound?? Heads exploding?

November 6, 2012 at 11:24 p.m.
alprova said...

Fox News is reporting that Mitt Romney believes that it is wrong to call the election so soon. He is challenging the Ohio projection.

Oh...and Mr. Rove is attempting to make the case for Mitt.

He's such a good trooper...

November 6, 2012 at 11:28 p.m.
axleblaze said...

So...the constant spamming of Bennet's cartoons with "news" about how Romney would trounce Obama are now replaced with accusations that the Dems cheated? Alright. Didn't expect these people to actually take the loss with any sort of dignity or anything.

November 6, 2012 at 11:30 p.m.
ricardo said...

Where are all of our right wingnut buddies? C'mon tu_cocques, post another Benghazi conspiracy theory link. Bahaha

November 6, 2012 at 11:31 p.m.
miraweb said...

Virginia just flipped. Ohio doesn't matter at all.

November 6, 2012 at 11:33 p.m.
alprova said...

Virginia flipped? Wow!!

I'm fascinated with the goings on over at Fox News. Karl Rove is about to explode...

November 6, 2012 at 11:40 p.m.
Easy123 said...

To Jack_Dennis, tu_quoque, degage, mymy, joneses, TOES02800, conservative, chatt_man:

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0lrqgluVw1qzcslso1_400.jpg

Enjoy the next four years! LMFAO!

November 6, 2012 at 11:42 p.m.
alprova said...

There's only five states left to be called and Obama is leading in all of them, but Mitt's still refusing to concede.

Nevada just went to Obama.

November 6, 2012 at 11:49 p.m.
alprova said...

Easy...where the heck have you been?

November 6, 2012 at 11:50 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Working and going to school, plus, I got tired of arguing with the Wingnut morons on here!

November 6, 2012 at 11:56 p.m.
ricardo said...

It's all over but the Romney concession speech.

November 6, 2012 at 11:56 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

4 more yrs of trillion $ deficits adding 2 a debt of which few understand the seriousness. Diminishd healthcare & pathetic job growth. Nice.

November 7, 2012 at 12:02 a.m.
dude_abides said...

WTF is wrong with Romney? This is embarrassing. The world probably thinks he's considering a coup d'etat. Come on, sourpuss, I wanna see the President's Acceptance Speech.

November 7, 2012 at 12:02 a.m.
axleblaze said...

The concession speech will probably take awhile. I don't think Romney is prepared to live in a world where he can no longer be running for president.

November 7, 2012 at 12:03 a.m.
alprova said...

Can anyone imagine Mitt making a future run after tonight?

November 7, 2012 at 12:06 a.m.
ricardo said...

Romney = Obama's shoeshine boy

November 7, 2012 at 12:07 a.m.
raygunz said...

alprova said...

"Can anyone imagine Mitt making a future run after tonight?"

Considering the ego involved,it's not unlikely,but I doubt he'll get a lot of support from his rich "buds" next time.

November 7, 2012 at 12:12 a.m.
alprova said...

Colorado just went to Obama.

Right about now, Mitt Romney is thinking...

"Maybe I SHOULD have released my taxes."

"Maybe I should have selected Marco Rubio."

"Maybe that Jeep ad was a bad idea."

"Karl Rove...you're an ass clown."

"Dangit...I really, REALLY want to be President!!"

November 7, 2012 at 12:12 a.m.
dude_abides said...

Thank goodness there weren't enough Jack_s in this country to elect this goofy f*ck to an office from which he could run the nation in the same lousy way he ran his campaign! Romney/Ryan lost every state that knew them well! Massachusetts, Wisconsin, Michigan

November 7, 2012 at 12:12 a.m.
miraweb said...

Putting together a win without needing either Ohio or Florida is a pretty good trick.

November 7, 2012 at 12:14 a.m.
raygunz said...

Teabaggers have now cost Republicans Senate seats in Missouri, Indiana, Colorado, Delaware, and Nevada. http://www.dailykos.com/

Thanx baggers!

November 7, 2012 at 12:15 a.m.
axleblaze said...

It is unlikely that Romney will run again. It's considered a major Faux-pas to run after losing the big show these days. I could be wrong, but I don't think it's happened since Nixon.

It doesn't help that the current political climate demonizes the losers for daring to lose. It is considered their fault for winning because the opponent is so awful that there's no way they could have won unless the other option was terrible.

November 7, 2012 at 12:15 a.m.
alprova said...

Check out the new cartoon...priceless!!

November 7, 2012 at 12:22 a.m.
dude_abides said...

Across the country, people are calling it a night, unable to hear their President speak, because Mitthead Romney is pouting. Whiney POS doesn't know when he's licked. Be a man, Mittens!

November 7, 2012 at 12:24 a.m.
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