published Wednesday, November 28th, 2012

Mohammed Morsi

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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Yossarian25 said...

Ohhh no the trolls won't understand this one, they probably can't even find Egypt on a map... bet they change the subject to something they can yell about... unless they find a way to blame Obama for Egypt's internal power struggles aswell!

November 28, 2012 at 1:14 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Best guess as to how many posters on this forum are products of clay bennett his ownself??

November 28, 2012 at 1:18 a.m.
fairmon said...

So much for democracy and eleced officials in Egypt. Back to kill the one you don't like and get a new one. His intentions as stated may be good but apparently a lot of Egyptians, unlike Americans, don't fall for the stated intentions or promises of their elected leaders.

All together now, stay the f_ _ _ out of Egypt and get the hell out of other countries in that quagmire called the middle east and some countries in Africa. Quit sending and spending billions in borrowed money down a rat hole.

November 28, 2012 at 4:30 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova...continuing from yesterday, this is from the IRS web site/accounting coach:

Cash dividends (usually referred to as "dividends") are a distribution of the corporation's net income. Dividends are analogous to draws/withdrawals by the owner of a sole proprietorship. As such, dividends are not expenses and do not appear on the corporation's income statement.

I read this to say dividends are not recorded as expenses and do not reduce future tax liability as you insist. Dividends reduce the amount of retained earnings.

Dividends

When dividends are declared by a corporation's board of directors, a journal entry is made on the declaration date to debit Retained Earnings and credit the current liability Dividends Payable. As stated earlier, it is the declaration of cash dividends that reduces Retained Earnings.

November 28, 2012 at 5:14 a.m.
fairmon said...

I realize I am not a middle east expert nor am I a bible scholar. But, it seems Morsi's choices may be limited to being taken out by protesting Egyptians for crossing them or his Muslim Brotherhood bros for not dancing to their tune. And, of course there is Hilary's reminder of losing foreign aid if he doesn't fulfill the commitment of the Camp David peace accord. Obama is smart to keep a safe hands off distance, tell McCain and other hawks to stuff it.

November 28, 2012 at 5:26 a.m.
rolando said...

First, where's the GOP elephant, Clay? You are slipping; undoubtedly, your slave-masters will respond accordingly...good luck.

Harp -- our electorate has sacrificed our freedom for a nanny's teat. Hillary's puppeted threat was nothing but hot air...our Leader -- the PuppetMaster -- will neither cut off Egypt's foreign aid nor do anything except back away.

The question was asked many years back how the German people could blindly sit back while their leader waged war and murdered millions...now we know.

November 28, 2012 at 7:01 a.m.
dao1980 said...

Jacky D, that's at least the second time this week I've noticed you declaring a poster to be someone else... as though it's all a grand conspiracy to confuse or debase those who know... things.. and stuff.. oooooooOOOOOOOOOoooooo they're watching..

Beware, paranoia will destroya.

November 28, 2012 at 7:38 a.m.

Yossarian25, you were indeed correct. I would call it foresight, but it was more like predicting that rain will fall down.

Still, the people of Egypt are prudent with their response to their leader's actual authoritarian power grab. Unlike say some of the paranoid claims to such in this country.

November 28, 2012 at 7:55 a.m.
Maximus said...

No worries, should things go completely ugly with Morsi, Hillary can always send Susan Rice in with a good message to smooth things out. Rice is apparently especially effective when some kind of spin or coverup is needed in order to convince the Obamified, drive by press and leftist Blue State Democrats that everything is A OK. As a quick aside, ALL OBAMA SUPPORTERS PLEASE MOVE TO A BLUE STATE IMMEDIATELY!!!!! Hillary of course, could always send her husband Bill but apparently he is occupied with something going on under his desk. Huge sucking, slurping noise emminating from his office... Once again Clay, what is it with you and ambitious dictators like Morsi with the facial hair? Cheers!

November 28, 2012 at 8:42 a.m.
fairmon said...

happy bulbs...an interesting comment. The Egyptians are prudent to object to a power grab but any objection to an expansion of government control in this country is paranoia? Morsi didn't have the option of expanding his influence and power in small increments over time. He didn't have the opportunity to manipulate or black mail local and state governments using grants, subsidies etc. while the government and those government employees disbursing and monitoring grant and subsidy compliance were convincing people it was for "the greater good" and how "rewarding" (grin) it was for them to be able to help them. Is it paranoia to be concerned that for the first time people will be taxed on what they did not spend instead of taxed on their income or taxed on a purchase at the time of a purchase while those purchasing that product are not taxed on the purchase and are given a tax deduction for the purchase or can avoid taxes by the use of a tax savings account. Paranoia may not be appropriate but some caution may be healthier than blind loyalty.

November 28, 2012 at 9:17 a.m.
fairmon said...

Susan Rice is a loyal victim. The democrats used her similar to the way Colin Powell was used by the republicans at the U.N. with their WMD message.

November 28, 2012 at 9:23 a.m.
hambone said...

harp, When Susan Rice spoke 4 has already died.

After Colin Powell lied for Dubya, 4000 died!

November 28, 2012 at 9:52 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

dao1980: And it probably won't be the last time, either tao. Seems easy enough to figure out. If it upsets you, feel free to not read my posts.

November 28, 2012 at 9:56 a.m.
alprova said...

Harp3339 quoted: "Cash dividends (usually referred to as "dividends") are a distribution of the corporation's net income. Dividends are analogous to draws/withdrawals by the owner of a sole proprietorship. As such, dividends are not expenses and do not appear on the corporation's income statement."

Notice the last three words? Dividends paid out do not appear on the **Corporation's income statement."" That does not mean that they are not expensed on an IRS filing. They are most certainly reported as the money is disbursed from their bank accounts, and reported as income transferred to every stockholder.

"I read this to say dividends are not recorded as expenses and do not reduce future tax liability as you insist. Dividends reduce the amount of retained earnings."

Retained earnings, or money left in the company's bank accounts to be used by the business, is taxed on future returns at the full amount and at corporate income tax rates, so you can bet that dividends paid out by a company are expensed to reduce those assessed taxes.

Initial corporate income tax rates assessed profits prior to dividend distribution on earnings is at the 15% to 25% rates, depending on the total amount of profit, and a tax exemption exists for smaller corporations for the first $75,000 of retained earnings.

Larger corporations are taxed at a flat rate for the balance that brings the tax rates assessed to 35% for any retained earnings. So once again, dividends paid out are indeed reported as an expense against future taxes and are reported to the IRS as such to offset future tax liabilities.

"When dividends are declared by a corporation's board of directors, a journal entry is made on the declaration date to debit Retained Earnings and credit the current liability Dividends Payable. As stated earlier, it is the declaration of cash dividends that reduces Retained Earnings."

Tax filings are totally separate from an SEC filing or reports sent to stockholders.

November 28, 2012 at 9:58 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

THE GOSPEL OF MEET THE PRESS

What is it with tea baggers and Susan Rice? You claim Rice was wrong to recite the talking points provided by the CIA. If she had strayed from that script provided to her, however, you would say she was wrong for doing that, too. It's not like the UN Ambassador works for the State Department.

Spoiler alert: There are no unanswered questions about her appearance on Sunday shows. Republicans are playing politics again. They have nothing on Susan Rice. Joe Lieberman, John McCain's BFF, has already dropped out of the Susan Rice witch hunt. After an hour of secret testimony yesterday with Rice and the acting director of the CIA, McCain astounded everyone by claiming he had more questions now than ever before. Wow. Too bad he didn't, you know, ask a few of them when he had the chance. Lucky, too, he hadn't scheduled another interfering press conference.

Here is one question McCain might have asked: Susan Rice, did you receive talking points from the CIA?

Here's another: Did you stray from those talking points?

And John's follow up question to the CIA director: Is she telling the truth?

Another spoiler alert: Republicans want to force Obama to name John Kerry to replace Clinton. They are even hinting that they would filibuster Rice's nomination. They want a run-off election in Massachusetts to fill his seat and Scott Brown is ready. He did much better against Warren than Romney did against Obama. Scott lost by 8 points, Romney by 23% (in one of his dozen home states! A former governor no less!) Brown, however, ran a bad campaign which fixated on Warren's heritage. (Brown said, She claims to be part Indian. She doesn't look Indian to me.) His high personal approval ratings took a big hit, and if Congressman Ed Markey decides to run he'll have a dog fight.

The unintended consequence, of course, is republicans are forcing Obama to actually go ahead and nominate Susan Rice for Secretary of State. No run-off election for you Scott Brown, not that you were a shoe in anyway.

All this flap over what an administration official said on Sunday morning news shows a month and a half ago. Even if Rice said something that was wrong, which she didn't, she wasn't testifying before Congress. She was not under oath. There is no such thing as the Gospel According to Meet the Press. As I recall, the Bush administration sold the Iraq invasion on Meet the Press and any other program they could lasso. Let's go back and look at all that WMD crap and how it would be over quickly, we'd be greeted as liberators, and it wouldn't cost taxpayers a dime.

And the idea of equating what Rice did on TV with what Powell said at the United Nations is very funny. Every time you guys hit a new low you find a way to hit a lower one. Kudos!

November 28, 2012 at 10:01 a.m.
alprova said...

Republican obsession with Benghazi makes no sense

(CNN) -- Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice, a possible nominee to be the next secretary of state, came to Capitol Hill Tuesday to perform a private mea culpa to key Republican senators for her erroneous initial public statements about the perpetrators of the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi in September in which four Americans were killed.

It didn't work.

After Tuesday's meeting with Rice, Sen. John McCain said, "It is clear that the information that she gave the American people was incorrect when she said that it was a spontaneous demonstration triggered by a hateful video."

Sen. Lindsey Graham who also met with Rice observed, "Bottom line: I'm more disturbed now than I was before."

What is the Republican theory of the case against Rice? It appears to boil down to the idea that leading Democrats covered up the involvement of terrorists in some way connected to al Qaeda in the Benghazi attack during the run-up to the close presidential election because President Obama and others in his administration had for some time said that al Qaeda was close to strategic defeat.

Does this case make sense? First, you would have to accept that Obama, Rice and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton all knowingly deceived the American public about what had happened at the Benghazi consulate.

Read the rest at;

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/27/opinion/bergen-gop-benghazi/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

November 28, 2012 at 10:06 a.m.
jesse said...

Actually J.D. i have wondered if Clay sometimes drops in here under an alias and stirs the pot so to speak!

November 28, 2012 at 10:06 a.m.
dao1980 said...

So the paranoia has already destroyed-ya.. is what you are saying?

November 28, 2012 at 10:07 a.m.
jesse said...

JUST because your paranoid don't mean they ain't out to git ya!!

November 28, 2012 at 10:18 a.m.
dao1980 said...

haha, good call jesse.

Are you following any of this last Q-school? Got any players that you're rootn' for?

November 28, 2012 at 10:24 a.m.

harp3339, an interesting misrepresentation of what I said. Did you not notice the qualification inherent when I used "some" in my phrasing? Where did you get the idea of "any objection" when I was referring to some of the paranoid claims, not all concerns? You misrepresented me rather willfully, I believe, as I was not describing any and all concerns, just saying that there were some that were based on nothing more than rampant hysteria. Are you saying that's untrue? That there are no such paranoid claims to be found?

But yes, the response to the health care mandate in the Patient Protection and Affordable Care act is a bit like that paranoia, in that it causes many problems to destroy the credibility of the critics since they engage in misrepresentations and distortions, as well as contradict their own previous positions.

But you know what's also important when you're expressing your concerns? Not being overcome with rampant hysteria that leads to almost indecipherable remarks that seem to come out as some sort of nonsensical word salad. You're not being cautious or prudent, you're just giving into a sort of fervent despair.

See, you have the same blind focus you accuse others of having, your loyalty is just to a different notion. That's why you've continually tried to portray me and others as some sort of slavish devotee to Obama's administration.

Why do you do that? Do you want to be like joneses, JonRoss, Jack_Dennis, but can't quite descend to their level of uncivil discourse? Or can't quite admit to your partisan biases?

But it's false, and nothing more than a discredit to you.

You're not being cautious, you're not doing anything but convincing me you have nothing to offer.

November 28, 2012 at 10:26 a.m.
jesse said...

Al that's exactly why they are pushing this and i think there's a 50/50 chance they are right!

The movie was a convenient scapegoat to stall the outrage till after the vote was in!

Whether this is in fact what went down will come out over the next 6 months.

November 28, 2012 at 10:29 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Bulbous is a good one to talk about "partisan bias". That's rich.

November 28, 2012 at 10:35 a.m.
Maximus said...

az myz alters ego JayZ says ins earlier posted, susan Rice beeez fine big booty woman id like to gits all up in to butz she be pimpin a little butch donts ya thinkz. Walks like a mans....ya knows dar bez rumors bout Miss Hillary. Ons Iraqs war we wonz a victory by hittn our nines all up in dat ass and raisin our flags over Bagdad errr a spelln bez bads sorries. W got a W in Iraq and Saddam was the weapon of mass destruction captured by U.S. Special Forces and handed over to his peeps and quickly killed. On the other hand......Barry lost his Afgahn war adventure. If I'm not mistaken "withdrawing" is surrendering. Like LBJ in Vietnam Barry got his ass kicked by trying to play nice, nice.

November 28, 2012 at 10:35 a.m.
jesse said...

I haven't been following it Dao, I've pretty much put golf on the back burner till spring! I played 9 last Thursday and prob. won't play again till April! Just killin time till the masters then i will get all fired up again!

November 28, 2012 at 10:36 a.m.
natty4bumpo said...

Spot on, Clay. I love it. You'd think he might've learned something from what happened to his predecessor.

November 28, 2012 at 10:59 a.m.
dao1980 said...

Quite understandable jesse, it's cold and the hands won't work well again till spring.

The Masters is by far the best, always something to look forward to.

Care to put one whole dollar on who's gonna take that green jacket next year? Or even a "one of three" grouping?

Hey Maxi, scloop bloop floop bwup shtu dwoop, shawtins daint doop poop, ma daint durnt did errrbody dat fo shizzzzz. Yu knoww dis!

November 28, 2012 at 11:06 a.m.
jesse said...

Ha HA dao!! I have a friend on "www. the cut line.com" that i bet a doz.balls of choice with on the majors! I haven't bought any golf balls in 2 years!!(we each pick a player and whoevers finish's higher wins!)

by the way if you play you might want to check out the site! Any thing goes except spam! I go by "jack" on there!

November 28, 2012 at 11:11 a.m.
dao1980 said...

will do jesse, thanks for the heads-up.

November 28, 2012 at 11:17 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

jesse: jack, huh? good choice

November 28, 2012 at 11:34 a.m.
jesse said...

short and easy to remember!(when you get my age easy to remember is important!)

I go by "jack slack" on Huff post!

November 28, 2012 at 11:45 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

jesse: hahaha....I've been called worse. On here. Recently!

November 28, 2012 at 12:11 p.m.

Jack_Dennis, you're a funny one to complain about another poster's partisanship.

What next? Complaining about being insulted? Incivility? About not contributing to the discussion? Name calling? About spending the day posting here?

Face it, you couldn't be a better example for why you're utterly wrong if you tried twice as hard to make yourself look bad.

November 28, 2012 at 12:17 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Harp3339 says: "Susan Rice is a loyal victim. The democrats used her similar to the way Colin Powell was used by the republicans at the U.N. with their WMD message."

Can't say I follow you're thinking here, Harp3339. What would be the purpose? The Bush/Cheney administration fabricated the WMD lie to create a reason to invade Iraq. Surely, you’re not suggesting the Obama/Biden administration has a secret desire to invade Egypt.

November 28, 2012 at 12:37 p.m.

Pharaoh Obama, eh?

Does he want a pyramid bigger than the Luxor?

Sounds like one of the paranoid claims I mentioned earlier.

November 28, 2012 at 12:42 p.m.
miraweb said...

Bill Kristol Tells Fox News Rice Better Than Kerry

The heavy hitters of the GOP establishment are not even pretending to care about the Benghazi circus anymore. Fox tries hard to keep spinning it - but if they've lost Bill Kristol, they've lost the war.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVIwx5MAkmE

November 28, 2012 at 12:59 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Blackwater48 suggests: “Another spoiler alert: Republicans want to force Obama to name John Kerry to replace Clinton. They are even hinting that they would filibuster Rice's nomination. They want a run-off election in Massachusetts to fill his seat and Scott Brown is ready.”

I think you’re might be right about this, Blackwater48. I’ve yet to make any sense out of the rants by the “Nuevo Three Amigos,” and your theory does make some sense. But as Jonathan Zasloff over at Reality Based Community says – enough already. President Obama should:

1) Give Rice a recess appointment as Sec State.

2) Submit her nomination to the US Senate for regular confirmation.

3) Get an opinion from OLC that renewing a recess appointment means that the appointee receives full salary.

4) Tell the various Amigos which orifices of their bodies they can stick their heads into.

http://www.samefacts.com/2012/11/uncategorized/time-to-kneecap-the-three-amigos/

November 28, 2012 at 1:01 p.m.
miraweb said...

Warren Buffett's Debt Formula


Warren Buffett does the math on what the U.S. economy needs to function. Turns out money is involved.


Suppose that an investor you admire and trust comes to you with an investment idea. “This is a good one,” he says enthusiastically. “I’m in it, and I think you should be, too.” Would your reply possibly be this? “Well, it all depends on what my tax rate will be on the gain you’re saying we’re going to make. If the taxes are too high, I would rather leave the money in my savings account, earning a quarter of 1 percent.” Only in Grover Norquist’s imagination does such a response exist.

I support President Barack Obama’s proposal to eliminate the Bush tax cuts for high-income taxpayers. However, I prefer a cutoff point somewhat above $250,000 — maybe $500,000 or so. Additionally, we need Congress, right now, to enact a minimum tax on high incomes. I would suggest 30 percent of taxable income between $1 million and $10 million, and 35 percent on amounts above that. A plain and simple rule like that will block the efforts of lobbyists, lawyers and contribution-hungry legislators to keep the ultra-rich paying rates well below those incurred by people with income just a tiny fraction of ours.

Only a minimum tax on very high incomes will prevent the stated tax rate from being eviscerated by these warriors for the wealthy

Our government’s goal should be to bring in revenues of 18.5 percent of GDP and spend about 21 percent of GDP — levels that have been attained over extended periods in the past and can clearly be reached again.

In the last fiscal year, we were far away from this fiscal balance — bringing in 15.5 percent of GDP in revenue and spending 22.4 percent. Correcting our course will require major concessions by both Republicans and Democrats.

All of America is waiting for Congress to offer a realistic and concrete plan for getting back to this fiscally sound path. Nothing less is acceptable.

In the meantime, maybe you’ll run into someone with a terrific investment idea, who won’t go forward with it because of the tax he would owe when it succeeds. Send him my way. Let me unburden him.

Warren Buffett

http://www.omaha.com/article/20121128/NEWS0802/711289977/1677

November 28, 2012 at 1:21 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Nooga notes: "Didn't take long, unless Benghazi has been airlifted to Egypt, and I missed it."

Shhhhh. . . Quiet, please. . . I did it . . . And . . . whew. . . It's was big job.

November 28, 2012 at 1:46 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

bulbous crayon boy: I'll try harder.

November 28, 2012 at 2:07 p.m.
fairmon said...

alpro said...

Retained earnings, or money left in the company's bank accounts to be used by the business, is taxed on future returns at the full amount and at corporate income tax rates, so you can bet that dividends paid out by a company are expensed to reduce those assessed taxes.

Are you saying the 40 billion on Microsofts books as retained after tax earnings will be assessed and taxed again? I think not. The day the BOD declares a dividend the funds are journaled to a dividends liability fund and will have no past or future impact on corporate taxes. A dividend cannot be declared unless there is sufficient retained earnings to pay the dividend. For confirmation ask the CFO of any publicly owned corporation that pays a dividend.

November 28, 2012 at 2:41 p.m.
fairmon said...

mountainlaurel said...

Can't say I follow you're thinking here, Harp3339. What would be the purpose? The Bush/Cheney administration fabricated the WMD lie to create a reason to invade Iraq. Surely, you’re not suggesting the Obama/Biden administration has a secret desire to invade Egypt.

I don't beleive for a minute they fabricarted it but I think they did believe the faulty intellignece from their own sources and confirmation of the information by France. I do understand and accept your hatred of anything republican and love for democrats.

Someone Rice the junk she disseminated on several Sunday talk shows. I think she believed what she was saying to be true just as Powell did but, those providing her the information either knew differently or should have. The message more accurately would have been we don't know for sure the investigation is active etc. etc. etc. She is loyal and will not betray the trust in her as she was betrayed by those she trusted.

November 28, 2012 at 2:52 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

So what was Bush's motive for wanting to invade Iraq?

November 28, 2012 at 3:28 p.m.
miraweb said...

Too many cowboy movies, I suspect.

November 28, 2012 at 3:41 p.m.
GratefulDawg said...

Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi. Oh, did I mention Benghazi? I would like to suggest that neo-cons study the work of Neil Young. If you are going to play a one-note solo, you might as well do it right. Republicans have many, many questions for Susan Rice. The cooked rice trio of McCain, Graham, and Ayotte grilled Rice in a closed-door meeting and only came out with more questions. Perhaps a couple more rounds including Psychoanalysis, Rorschach tests, and 2,951 question Jungian test will suffice. Or at the very least give McCain enough information to give Chris Wallace a definite-maybe on Sunday morning.

I know many of you will not believe this, but I once saw Lindsey Graham speak a full sentence while John McCain drank a glass of water.

November 28, 2012 at 3:59 p.m.
alprova said...

Harp 3339 wrote: "Are you saying the 40 billion on Microsofts books as retained after tax earnings will be assessed and taxed again? I think not."

You're really being hard-headed on this one.

All profits of a public company are initially taxed at capital gains rates. There are varying rules that dictate how much must be paid out of those gains to stockholders.

Retained funds are allowed to be distributed among the partners of the company and received as capital gains, without any further tax implications to the company, but are taxed as capital gains by each person receiving them, at the capital gains rate.

However, if a company chooses to keep any of those capital gains in company accounts to be used as working capital, after dividends are paid out, those funds are then deemed as corporate profit, and thus taxed as income up to the applicable corporate tax rate.

One way or the other, the IRS is going to tax capital gains at 30% or more, depending on whose pockets or bank accounts those gains wind up in.

"The day the BOD declares a dividend the funds are journaled to a dividends liability fund and will have no past or future impact on corporate taxes. A dividend cannot be declared unless there is sufficient retained earnings to pay the dividend. For confirmation ask the CFO of any publicly owned corporation that pays a dividend."

Sir, with all due respect, a public company that pays out dividends, under any circumstance whatsoever, reports each and every cent to the IRS, including to whom it was paid to, and it most certainly does offset future assessments on those profits at the corporate tax rate as income to the corporation.

As I offered before, every cent paid out by a business to someone else is considered an expense. The difference in this case, is that corporate profits of a publicly held company are initially taxed 20% below the maximum corporate tax rate, in the assumption that the entire amount in profits, pre-distribution, will be disbursed as capital gains to individuals, who will then pay 15% in taxes on them.

Any profits retained by a company that is used as working capital and not distributed as capital gains to someone...anyone, is deemed ordinary corporate income, and taxed as such up to the applicable corporate rate for that company.

If Microsoft has retained $40 billion in its bank accounts over the years, you can bet that the company paid 35% in taxes on profits prior to having $40 billion in those accounts.

Most gains that a publicly held company earns are taxed twice. Who pays the second of the two tax amounts depends on where those capital gains wind up.

November 28, 2012 at 4:05 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Harp3339 said: “I don't beleive for a minute they fabricarted it but I think they did believe the faulty intellignece from their own sources and confirmation of the information by France. I do understand and accept your hatred of anything republican and love for democrats.”

I don’t see the incident as a Republican VS Democrat matter, Harp3339. Former CIA director David Petraeus has said that the intelligence community wanted to eliminate any reference to Ansar al-Sharia in the talking points at that particular point in time, which seems reasonable to me and I say this for several reasons.

As to the "Republican trio's" attacks on Susan Rice, I don't think their attacks have anything to do with Benghazi. Fortunately, I think most reasonable folks agree with Jon Huntsman: “it takes awhile to sort through the details. And it doesn’t do a whole lot of good for the political class to point fingers before you even know what was behind it. . .”

http://my.firedoglake.com/phoenix/2012/11/27/huntsman-to-gop-stfu-about-benghazi-you-morons/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

November 28, 2012 at 5:54 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Congratulations Bennett, you managed to take a break from bashing one of the two political parties that are running this country into the ground. I think that makes you a 1.001 trick pony.

November 28, 2012 at 8:11 p.m.
ricardo said...

Time for Obama to spike the football in the endzone:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/84323.html?hp=f2

In your face Mitt

November 28, 2012 at 8:20 p.m.
jesse said...

Lets wait till he gets the nation back on track and THEN spike the football! So far it's lookin like 4 more years of what we've had for longer than i like to think about!

The only thing Obama has done so far is keep Romney out of the White House ,which is good BUT!

November 28, 2012 at 8:47 p.m.
dude_abides said...

maximus said... "As a quick aside, ALL OBAMA SUPPORTERS PLEASE MOVE TO A BLUE STATE IMMEDIATELY!!!!! Hillary of course, could always send her husband Bill but apparently he is occupied with something going on under his desk. Huge sucking, slurping noise emminating from his office..."

You're just a filthy pig in every direction, aren't you?

November 28, 2012 at 10:39 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

no dude_, that would be william jefferson clinton.

November 28, 2012 at 11:22 p.m.
Maximus said...

Dude Abides, u be drinkin too many white russians in your mothers robe and yes Bill Clinton is a filthy pig in every direction as is his lying lesbo wife Miss Hillary. As for Jesse, JayZ just be sayin..........damn Jesse u bez a little bitch wantin Marse Obama to do everthing forz ya to include whipin yours ass. $50 million on food stamps..........47% of Americans paying no taxes! This guy is rolling in his grave watching the Welfare Pimp Barry Cetera Obama promising his brain dead, spoiled brat followers their fair share of other peoples money ...."The new frontier of which I speak is not a set of promises-it is a set of challenges. It sums up not what I intend to offer the American people, but what I intend to ask of them." JFK, Democrat, POTUS,WWII Vet and Great American Ass Kicker! Obama could not wear much less hold JFK's jock strap. JFK RIP. Damn you Lee Harvey or was it Jesse and the Cubans?

November 28, 2012 at 11:40 p.m.
fairmon said...

ml said...

As to the "Republican trio's" attacks on Susan Rice, I don't think their attacks have anything to do with Benghazi. Fortunately, I think most reasonable folks agree with Jon Huntsman: “it takes awhile to sort through the details.

That being the case why did she so emphatically insist it was the video instead of saying it takes a while to investigate an event like this? She allowed herself to be used by persons to date not known for reasons not yet known and may never be known if the issue can be dragged out long enough to allow the publics short term memory to work it's magic.

Your link to Huntsman is certainly a republican and democrat thing, becoming such with the authors personal opinion follwing Huntsman interview. I can see how your bias comes about if this is the kind of material you often read. Or, you have an opinion and find something you agree with or that supports it.

November 28, 2012 at 11:43 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Harp3339 asks: “That being the case why did she so emphatically insist it was the video instead of saying it takes a while to investigate an event like this? She allowed herself to be used by persons to date not known.”

Emphatically insist? Have you ever listened to what Ambassador Rice was actually saying in the interviews, Harp3339? Her wording doesn’t sound emphatic to me: “the assessment at present” . . . “They have already begun looking at all sorts of evidence” . . . “They will get on the ground and continue the investigation” . . . “Based on the best information we have to date”

Harp3339 said: “She allowed herself to be used by persons to date not known.”

Since Ambassador Rice was using the talking points provided by the intelligence community, what exactly what do you mean, Harp3339? Are you suggesting that the intelligence community set up President Obama’s Ambassador? If so, what do you think was their reason? Surely, you’re not suggesting that someone within the intelligence community wanted to create of one these Democrat VS Republican scenarios?

Harp3339 says: “Your link to Huntsman is certainly a republican and democrat thing. . . I can see how your bias comes about if this is the kind of material you often read.”

And what about your own bias, Harp3339? I don't believe it’s a coincidence that your posts usually reflect some Republican talking point, including the one we are currently discussing.

November 29, 2012 at 11:06 p.m.
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