published Thursday, October 11th, 2012

Scott DesJarlais

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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John_Proctor said...

You nailed it, Clay. Another "family values" hypocrite is exposed and this one by his own words.

October 11, 2012 at 12:08 a.m.
hotdiggity said...

Ahh well, it won't matter. The good church going family values conservatives will overlook this serial philanderer when they go to the polls. Somehow they will convince themselves that the good congressman is just being pilloried by the liberal media. Perhaps he will update his website where he claims to be a staunch pro life candidate.

Any bets on his being reelected?

October 11, 2012 at 12:39 a.m.
nucanuck said...

This isn't partisan failure so much as human failure...what a louse!!!

October 11, 2012 at 1:20 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

I think you're exactly right, hotdiggity. Most Republcans are not that concerned with the personal morality of their candidates. They're mostly interested in hearing them talk the talk and don't really care whether they actually practice what they preach. Anyway, conservatives see practically all Democrats as evil socialists and they'd much rather have a philandering Republican in office than an "evil socialist" Democrat.

October 11, 2012 at 1:24 a.m.
fairmon said...

A Desjarlais win says a lot about the voters in his district or it is a terrible indictment of his opponent. He is in a category with former presidential candidate John Edwards who ran around on his now deceased ill wife and got his girl friend pregnant. Edwards was pro-choice, wonder if he suggested an abortion? He was charged with using campaign funds to hide the affair but not convicted. Surely neither of them will hold public office again. The criteria for holding an elected office is not difficult to meet. No requirement to know the constitution or to have other knowledge and demonstrated ability and obviously morals are not required. The Libertarian candidate on the ballot in all 50 states, Gary Johnson, appears to have the knowledge, skills and ability to address the critical issues plus good morals.

October 11, 2012 at 4:20 a.m.
fairmon said...

Was there an abortion? If not, I wonder how old the kid is now and is learning of the story of her mother and father. I don't condone his behavior in the least but it is sad someone didn't give any consideration to the child before making the information public. Was Desjarlais given a chance to quit the race to prevent the information from going public? If he was and refused to protect the kid that should be as damaging as the behavior publicized.

October 11, 2012 at 4:32 a.m.
fairmon said...

This situation has nothing to do with Obama or Romney other than hopefully one less republican member of congress. If past known personal morals and behavior is a consideration both parties would be in deep stuff, it would be a tight race.

October 11, 2012 at 4:37 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

Ha. But the job of a representative is to VOTE and Mr DeJarlais would probably vote less badly than a Democrat, so his constituents may well vote for him on that basis.

As for Democrats, Mr Clinton was accused of rape. The Free Press side cartoon yesterday? or the day before showed President Obama making a number of dubious statements, ending with the punch line 'Mitt Romney is a liar.'

As for Gary Johnson, certainly he'd make a better President than either of the two leading candidates, but isn't he openly living with a woman he's not married to?

October 11, 2012 at 6 a.m.
EaTn said...

Will the voters in this district vote their faith and values, or will they vote their usual partisan politics?

October 11, 2012 at 6:06 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Rickaroo said: "Most Republcans are not that concerned with the personal morality of their candidates. They're mostly interested in hearing them talk the talk and don't really care whether they actually practice what they preach."

I dunno, Rickaroo. I think you’re being too hard on this poor hypocritical southern jock.

Just think about it for a few minutes and try to put yourself in his sneakers. . . Indeed, what other choice did this pitiful womanizing conservative jock have? . . . (Sigh)

If Doctor Desjarlais hadn’t pressured his patient to obtain an abortion, he probably wouldn’t have been elected to Congress, which means he would have missed out on his chance to score a law making it impossible for other women to have an abortion.

And Desjarlais had to record the telephone call to his patient so he could prove to his first wife that he still loved her and didn’t want to father a child with his patient.

October 11, 2012 at 6:15 a.m.
fairmon said...

mountainlaurel...

Your 6:15 a.m. post convinces me to accept his behavior no more than your attempts to paint Obama in a favorable light when you criticize others.

October 11, 2012 at 7:16 a.m.
dude_abides said...

AndrewLohr said... "Ha. But the job of a representative is to VOTE and Mr DeJarlais would probably vote less badly than a Democrat, so his constituents may well vote for him on that basis."

Therein lies the difference between liberals and conservatives. The Andrew Crew doesn't give a rat's a$$ about anything but winning. Thanks for opening that window on the pragmatic conservative soul, Andrew! Hell, they could eat babies for all you people care, as long as you have a majority of representatives that will vote your interests.

October 11, 2012 at 7:37 a.m.
fairmon said...

andrewlorh said....

As for Gary Johnson, certainly he'd make a better President than either of the two leading candidates, but isn't he openly living with a woman he's not married to?

response:

I think so and I think I read where they were engaged to be married. Their living arrangements don't bother me in the least. I may be viewed by some as a womanizer but I have never encouraged an abortion nor would I attempt to influence a woman's decision regarding such, no indiscretions or unfaithfulness on my part if there is a commitment to a relationship.

Marriage was at one time justified because the man hunted, fished, farmed and built things to provide for the home and family while the woman worked from before day light until after dark cleaning, cooking, sewing, caring for the husband and kids and performing other household functions. That situation no longer exist and both, in most cases, hold jobs. In some cases women are still expected to maintain the house etc. while the husband goes out to play therefore, one of the reasons for a justifiably high divorce rate.

October 11, 2012 at 7:41 a.m.
dude_abides said...

Yeah, harp, it's an indictment of his former opponent. Thanks for that nugget.

October 11, 2012 at 7:42 a.m.
fairmon said...

Obama's campaign seem to be trying to keep playing the blame game and pointing at Bush and now at Romney saying he would be worse than me. Assuming Obama wins, whose economy will he be inheriting? Will he blame Bush for our bad economy for four more years or will he blame "bad luck" and those other countries? It appears enough people will buy his campaign of we have turned the corner, I see a light at the end of the tunnel, I need more time to see if that light is on a train coming our way.

October 11, 2012 at 7:59 a.m.
WHS1970 said...

I think Dr D looks like the nut that shot Gabby Gifford. Maybe thats why republicans like him so much.

October 11, 2012 at 8:01 a.m.
mymy said...

26 Days to Go!

It is still the economy/jobs/foreign policy/direction of country/National Security here/abroad and the growing debt.

Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock

The Democrats are desperate to hold on to Congress. If the Dr. was a Democrat, the libs would be silent as a church mouse!!!

Don’t forget Libya-Gate plus all the other GATES from the Obama Administration!!

The Latest:

Masked gunmen have attacked and killed a security official at the U.S. embassy in Sanaa, Yemen, Reuters reported early this morning. The official, Qassem Aqlan, was a Yemeni who led a security team at the U.S. diplomatic mission. He was attacked in his car by assassins on a motorcycle in the city center. The attack came just hours after Americans began to learn the full extent of security failures at U.S. diplomatic missions in Libya prior to the deadly terrorist attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi last month.

Romney/Ryan 2012

October 11, 2012 at 8:57 a.m.
Dumbledore403 said...

I do not vote for people that have moral issues.I did not vote for President Clinton or President Bush 43 the second term for thoses reasons...and I will not vote for President Obama for the second term because of his signing of certain bills.. You may not like it but I do try to be concistant

October 11, 2012 at 9:08 a.m.
conservative said...

Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path. Psalm 119:105 Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..

October 11, 2012 at 9:14 a.m.
hotdiggity said...

Andrew said.."Ha. But the job of a representative is to VOTE and Mr DeJarlais would probably vote less badly than a Democrat, so his constituents may well vote for him on that basis."

Yep, he will no doubt vote his christian "values". Perhaps his loyal constituents will ignore his lying about his pro life stance. Perhaps they will ignore that he has broken his sworn Hippocratic Oath to first do no harm. Perhaps they will ignore he is a serial adulterer.

You christian family value apologists make for great entertainment.

Andrew I am surprised you are not using this toon to get on your soapbox about abortion. Perhaps it is not such an issue since you might consider Mr. DesJarlais "one of us" with an "R" beside his name.

Perhaps Mr. DesJarlais needs to take a page from this fine christian... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1OXAi...

October 11, 2012 at 9:30 a.m.
alprova said...

AndrewLohr wrote: "Ha. But the job of a representative is to VOTE and Mr DeJarlais would probably vote less badly than a Democrat, so his constituents may well vote for him on that basis."

So the fact that the woman in question did abort the fetus, a pet peeve that you have posted about repeatedly over the years, and the fact that this man has proclaimed himself to be an avid anti-abortion candidate means nothing at all to you?

Mr. Desjarlais hasn't even expressed an ounce of remorse for what he did. The extent of his response has been to call the revelations against him, "dirty politics."

All that is a-okay and should be set aside, because in your opinion, he probably votes "less badly" than a Democrat would?

"As for Democrats, Mr Clinton was accused of rape."

Stick to the subject at hand.

"The Free Press side cartoon yesterday? or the day before showed President Obama making a number of dubious statements, ending with the punch line 'Mitt Romney is a liar.'"

And? This subject isn't about the President either.

"As for Gary Johnson, certainly he'd make a better President than either of the two leading candidates, but isn't he openly living with a woman he's not married to?"

OMG...call the marriage police!! String the man up and hang him until he is dead. That's a far worse reason to not consider casting a vote for someone, isn't it?

Your attempt to excuse a Doctor who has been proven guilty of having had a sexual affair with a patient, who wound up pregnant, who then demanded an abortion, seems to contradict your previous words offered in this forum repeatedly.

I get it now. A 'baby murderer' is alright in your book, despite the fact that he is a Republican who presented himself as a pro-life candidate who supports family values, so long as you feel he will "vote less badly."

Thank you for clearing that up.

October 11, 2012 at 9:50 a.m.
moon4kat said...

Another two-faced Republican with a double standard.
He feels personally entitled to engage in whatever indecent behavior appeals to him . . . and then vote to control the lives of everyone else. That's all the GOP stands for anymore.
Republican leadership (if they had any real values) would drum DesJarlais out of the party. But, just watch, they won't because the GOP is the party of hypocrites.

October 11, 2012 at 10:06 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

ALPO says "Stick to the subject at hand" Now that's freakin funny, coming from Cliff Claven, Jr.

October 11, 2012 at 10:13 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

on May 7, the State Department authorized the U.S. embassy in Vienna to purchase a $108,000 electric vehicle charging station for the embassy motor pool’s new Chevrolet Volts. The purchase was a part of the State Department’s “Energy Efficiency Sweep of Europe” initiative, which included hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars on green program expenditures at various U.S. Embassies.

THINK ABOUT THAT, ladies and germs. These are your tax dollars at work. (those of you that pay taxes). Of course, spending tax $ is SOP for you lefties.

October 11, 2012 at 10:15 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

"Ha. But the job of a representative is to VOTE and Mr DeJarlais would probably vote less badly than a Democrat, so his constituents may well vote for him on that basis." - Andrew Lohr

Mr. Lohr has just proven the point that hotdiggity and I were making in our posts - that conservatives don't give a rat's ass about the morals of their representatives, as long as they vote in such a way that they can enforce their phony Biblical morals on the rest of us. In the eyes of most conservatives Democrats are all "evil socialists," like I said, and they honestly believe that a philandering, conscienceless, "Christian" Republican is preferable to an evil, socialist, "godless" Democrat. Thank you, Andrew Lohr. You have made my case by providing us with words straight from the horse's mouth.

October 11, 2012 at 10:48 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Rickyroo: Nice try, but all the pubs I talk to say DesJarlais is a d-bag and should be out on his azz.

October 11, 2012 at 11:14 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

J_D, regarding your post about the green program expenditures at U.S. embassies...could you possibly demonstrate any greater lack of foresight, or even common sense? You conservatives who believe that just cutting spending is some cure-all for what ails us couldn't possibly be more backward in your thinking. How much money do you think it costs tax payers every year to fill up the tanks of our gas-guzzling embassy fleets of automobiles in Europe, where the cost of gas is MUCH higher than it is here? Unless we just want to shut down everything and live in a country without the services that we need to keep things running, even at a bare minimum, we are going to have to continue to spend money. We can't just stop spending and expect the economy to miraculously start thriving. It's not a matter of stopping spending, it's a matter of how wisely we choose to spend.

Just because you see everything related to green energy as foolishly liberal or socialist, well, that's your own narrow view. The fact is, green energy is here to stay and, with advances in technology, it will only grow and will eventually be our primary source of energy production. Much of it is not cost effective yet but there are some areas where the savings are already evident. While hundreds of thousands of dollars might seem like a big outlay of tax-payer dollars, this is one particular area where the investment will most likely pay for itself quickly and save us lots of money down the road.

October 11, 2012 at 11:26 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Harp3339 snips: “Your 6:15 a.m. post convinces me to accept his behavior no more than your attempts to paint Obama in a favorable light when you criticize others.”

Why do you always seem to think everything is about "you" or "Obama," Harp3339?*

This is a news story about another womanizing male politician who believes that a woman does not have any personal or constitutional rights in matters involving her own body. . . he does.

October 11, 2012 at 11:28 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

rickyroo: thanks for telling me what I believe. clairvoyance abounds with you lefties. What I said had nothing to do with long-term energy policy. It has everything to do with throwing away money (that we don't have) . It's about timing, ricky. Seems to be that it's a bad swap to cut security staffs at embassies, but pay ridiculous amounts to help "green" Europe.
Can you help me with some lotto numbers?

October 11, 2012 at 11:35 a.m.
mymy said...

Obama is spreading the wealth to other countries. We can't dill here but big bucks given to Mexico, Brazil and Columbia to do so plus more.

Americans need jobs!

Yet, Obama blocks oil drilling in the USA while promoting and even subsidizing it in other countries. Obama has placed on hold the proposal for the Keystone oil pipeline even though the project would, at a time of economic hardship, create thousands of new American jobs. Many interpreted Obama’s action as a concession to environmental groups. However, it’s not really about environmentalism at all.

It is based on Barack Obama, Sr. ideology of anti-colonialism. When reading Souza’s book The Roots of Obama’s Rage, Barack Sr. ideology was to transfer wealth from the colonizers to the colonized. In his day, that meant transferring British wealth to Africa countries.

President Obama has been doing just this by transferring American jobs and wealth to other nations like Brazil, Mexico, Columbia and India. Dinesh D’Souza writes, “Obama is committed to bring down the 'neocolonial' forces in the economy and to lasso the rogue elephant that is America.”

To be more specific, Souza writes in his book Obama’s America, “The rich countries, specifically Europe and the United States, pay to reduce their own carbon emissions. Then the same rich countries make large transfers of wealth to the developing countries so those countries can continue to grow in an environmentally responsible way. The amount the Obama’s administration has agreed to — a number derived from a United from a Nations Scheme — is around $100 billion a year. The money would enable the developing countries to develop, but with a limited impact on the environment, because while developing countries use more energy, the West would use less. The developing countries will be happy because their economic growth will be subsidized by the rich countries, and the rich countries should agree because, as Obama put it, 'the developed nations that caused much of the damage to our climate over the last century ... have a responsibility to lead.' Call it global climate reparations."

But for Obama this $100 billion is only a first step. Speaking at the Summit of the Americas in Trinidad in 2009, Obama said, "America would join with other countries to set aside over a trillion dollars for countries going through difficult times, recognizing we have to provide assistance to these countries that are most vulnerable."

For Obama, what it all comes down to is: "We pay, and they develop.”

http://www.jongarrido.com/how_obama_sends_jobs_to_other_countries.htm

October 11, 2012 at 11:47 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

mymy: What's a paltry million to a leftist?

October 11, 2012 at noon
miraweb said...

So Mitt Romney gets a "do-over" on the appropriate reaction by a candidate to the death of an American consulate worker.

All right Mitt - you have 24 hours. Will you politicize it or will you issue a "we're all Americans on this day" statement.

The world is watching.

Tick tock!

October 11, 2012 at 12:02 p.m.
miraweb said...

Here you go Jack:

7.8 47 99 1 181 million.

HTH.

October 11, 2012 at 12:04 p.m.
mymy said...

Billions JD

October 11, 2012 at 12:04 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

mymy: exactly

October 11, 2012 at 12:06 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Mira: Speaking of politicizing......A botched cover-up at election time? Shameful. Oh well, blame the video. More proof that The Anointed One is ignorant on foreign policy. His State Dept is clueless. Still puzzles me what Hillary would want to be a part of this.

October 11, 2012 at 12:09 p.m.
jesse said...

IF the fiasco and follow up in Libya isn't a legitimate issue then there has NEVER been such an animal!!

Before this is over it could cost Obama the election!

Mat have to rethink who i'm conna vote for!

October 11, 2012 at 12:17 p.m.
tderng said...

What is it with you liberals? Another baby killing advocate reveals himself and swells your ranks and you are upset!!!!You should be happy,but because he has a R by his name you wring your hands and whine and moan. I wouldn't have voted for him in the primary,and since I can't in the general I don't care if he is elected or not. Apparently his opponent doesn't have much backing from the left because I didn't even know who he was until I looked it up. Maybe he wouldn't get elected if his opponent had a little name recognition. That lies at the feet of the Democratic party.Instead of promoting Eric Stewart his party only attacks his opponent,giving Desjarlais even more name recognition.Good or bad,his name is out there much more than Mr. Stewarts.

October 11, 2012 at 12:30 p.m.
rolando said...

Then there is the male prostitute and his philandering homosexual partner[s], US Senator Baw-w-wney...one of the two chumps who brought us the housing bubble and the subsequent crash wy back in 08. Which, incidentally, laid the groundwork for this Depression. But that's OK; what can I say except he is just a democrat?

October 11, 2012 at 12:35 p.m.
jdavid said...

It's only a problem if you've gotten your "news" from FOX. Mitt got two different riots and responses confused- decided to make some political points and issued a statement before the facts were known. He ended up looking like an idiot. The State department has updated information as the facts have been developed and Mitt and Issa are still behind in responses. "making noise" is a cheap imitation of making sense. There's not really an "issue" unless you are talking about the 3 billion dollars the Republicans cut from State's security budget. The idea of a "small government" sounds noble but a government needs to be big enough to do the things that a government needs to do. If you really want a small government, Somalia is nice this time of year

October 11, 2012 at 12:47 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

jdavid: Somolia is not nice any time of year. And I get my news (the straight skinny) from MSNBC.

October 11, 2012 at 12:50 p.m.
conservative said...

Obama surges in latest poll!

" Of the 339 respondents, 68% say Obama, while only 13% favor Romney. Another 14% would like to see “someone else” in the White House, while 5% responded “I don’t care.”" He is a shoe in with the porn industry.

http://newswire.xbiz.com/view.php?id=155108

October 11, 2012 at 12:59 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

If you're on the public teat, or think you should be, or know someone that is, then The Exalted Comrade is your man. Power to the people!

October 11, 2012 at 1:01 p.m.
miraweb said...

An interesting quote from Representative Louie Gohmert (R-TX):

"The good news is, Mitt Romney is a people pleaser. The bad news is, Mitt Romney is a people pleaser."

"And so that means come January, everybody across the country is going to have to make sure that we let him know: this is what America believes in, this is what you said you would do, and we expect you to do it."

http://thehill.com/video/campaign/261473-gop-lawmaker-says-romney-a-people-pleaser-who-will-have-to-be-reminded-of-gop-goals

October 11, 2012 at 1:23 p.m.
jesse said...

The other day on a Bennett cartoon that had around 250 responses ,i found only 29 or 30 responders!

99.8% of the responders seem to think that their views on the subject were on the threshold of a world wide awakening to the REAL TRUTH!! Sorry to say "Jack Dennis "was the only one that had a grip on how silly all you deep thinkers are! JACK,JUST be careful that your tongue doesn't get PERMANENTLY imbedded in your cheek!

October 11, 2012 at 2:34 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

jesse da man

October 11, 2012 at 2:51 p.m.
hotdiggity said...

Whoops, looks like the serial adulterer/pro life/family values candidate could be in danger of losing his license to practice medicine.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/11/scott-desjarlais-medical-license_n_1958132.html

Might be time to come clean with your constituents.

Perhaps he was confused when he took the Hippocratic Oath. Maybe he thought he was swearing to uphold the Hypocritical Oath.

October 11, 2012 at 2:54 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

The following is a PSA, Viewer Warning: Do not get within 5 ft of your TV tonite. Plugs Biden will be slinging shiz by the sled-load.

October 11, 2012 at 2:59 p.m.
EaTn said...

Jack_Dennis said... "If you're on the public teat, or think you should be, or know someone that is, then The Exalted Comrade is your man. Power to the people!"

Jack, you just described a majority of the folks, either directly or indirectly, in this country who are beholding to taxpayer money, including our men and women in uniform. It's not dirty money.

October 11, 2012 at 3:03 p.m.
miraweb said...

Seems like Ohio poll workers sent 14,000 voters to the wrong table in 2008. It took an appeals court judge to tell Ohio that really is not cool. Ohio remains the prom queen of voter disenfranchisement.

The appeals court ruled that the state must count provisional ballots cast in the wrong precinct but at the right polling place, as long as the error was the fault of a poll worker. (Some polling places serve voters from several precincts.)

A federal district court found that Ohio rejected more than 14,000 wrong-precinct ballots in 2008 and 11,000 more in 2010.

Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted didn’t dispute the figures but argued that improvements in the state’s provisional ballot system rendered the lawsuit irrelevant. His office also argued that reasons other than poll-worker error may have been to blame for the deficiencies. But the appeals court said it was inconceivable that a voter would refuse to cast a ballot in the right precinct.

“The State would disqualify thousands of right-place/wrong-precinct provisional ballots, where the voter’s only mistake was relying on the poll-worker’s precinct guidance. That path unjustifiably burdens these voters’ fundamental right to vote,” wrote a three-judge panel of the Sixth Circuit.

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2012/10/11/sixth-circuit-ohio-must-count-votes-cast-in-wrong-precinct/?mod=google_news_

October 11, 2012 at 3:33 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

EaTn: Wasn't talking about military and you know it.

October 11, 2012 at 3:34 p.m.
Leaf said...

Maybe DesJarlais will get "born again" like some other Southern politicians I could name, and all his past affairs and transgressions will be conveniently forgiven. I think you can get about seven do-overs before the believers start to catch on.

October 11, 2012 at 3:40 p.m.
fairmon said...

Jack_Dennis said... "If you're on the public teat, or think you should be, or know someone that is, then The Exalted Comrade is your man. Power to the people!"

That will include the wealthy and those under the average income line. In other words if you are in the middle income brackets you are SOL. The real pain is that Obama cannot lose since he accommodates the two extremes and will do so until those supplementing the two extremes no longer exist.

October 11, 2012 at 3:40 p.m.
timbo said...

I've got two words for you liberal hypocrites. Clinton and Edwards.

How many times back in the day did you make excuses for your guys doing the same thing? Yea...I thought so..

He will be reelected anyway. No matter how he acted in 2000 he will vote PRO-LIFE. These guys votes are all they are good for. Conversely, his liberal opponent will vote to support abortion. This is an easy call.

They are all slime balls it is just the degree.

October 11, 2012 at 3:50 p.m.
fairmon said...

Dejarlais has nothing to do with the POTUS race. Add these up:

o minorities

o unions

o special interest groups

o government dependent

o 80% of the mega wealthy

o Most bankers, brokers and insurance managers and workers

o A majority of school teachers and professors

A lot of Obama supporters in these groups. Forget the polls, debates and other campaign activities, Obama cannot be beat. Not enough people understand the economic mess we are in which is not attributable to one party nor will either party be able to fix it. It may be a safe prediction that a lot of voters will be flip flopping in the next year or so, possibly looking for a third option.

October 11, 2012 at 3:52 p.m.
jesse said...

HARP. all i can tell you is you have apparently identified w/Don Quixote! You just enjoy windmills knockin you on your ass!

October 11, 2012 at 4:07 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Biden Proposed Social Security Freeze in 1984

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/biden-proposed-social-security-freeze-in-1984/

Talk about throwing grandma over the cliff!

October 11, 2012 at 4:07 p.m.
ITguy said...

You guys don't get it. Republican = Good, Democrat = Evil.

Nothing else matters. All you need to know is in the simple formula above.

October 11, 2012 at 4:20 p.m.
jesse said...

Hey LEAF<he got borned again just AFTER he decided to run for office!That way what went BEFORE don't mean nuttin! Typical behavior for killers and ambitious pols! In the vernacular of the street it's called "jail house religion"! Besides if you ask him now he will tell you "i was just jokin around!"

October 11, 2012 at 4:27 p.m.
Leaf said...

Well, since he was born again he gets a free pass on the affairs, the coerced abortion, divorce, sleeping with a patient, and the apparent psychotic gun-the-mouth episode. HOWEVER! His name sounds French, so he must be a closet anti-American stinky-cheese-lovin Communist surrender monkey! I bet he calls his freedom fries "french fries!"

October 11, 2012 at 4:36 p.m.
timbo said...

Leaf...do you think that Clinton advocated free love before he go caught getting sex from Monica? All these guys are hypocrites.

They are only as good as how they vote. The rest is just partisan noise. You would be howling just as loud defending him if he was a democrat. That is the problem here.

October 11, 2012 at 4:41 p.m.
Leaf said...

timbo, like I said, he's been born again so Im giving him a pass on his moral missteps. It's his French name I don't like. Just like I wanted Weiner to step down, not because of the risqué texts, but because of his funny last name. I never liked John Edwards, either, but that was just because of his douchy hair cut. Don't get me started on Gingritch! Sounds like "The Grinch!" I wouldn't touch him with a ten-and-a-half foot pole.

October 11, 2012 at 4:57 p.m.
patriot1 said...

The actions of Dr. DesJarlais is obviously wrong and should not have happened. However just knowing his opponent would be voting for Nancy Pelosi for speaker is enough for me to hold my nose and vote for him.

October 11, 2012 at 5:23 p.m.
jesse said...

HEY if you been BORN AGIN all that other stuff don't count!

You get to restart from zero!

If you don't believe it just ask Jimmy Swaggert!

Ya know it's REALLY HARD TO OVERCOME a French name!

ALL most like being called the anti humanist!(actually if you look at history that's pretty close!) Needless to say i think the FRENCH need to spend the next 1000 years in purgatory!sorriest race of humans on the planet!

October 11, 2012 at 5:24 p.m.
hotdiggity said...

It seems like some of our conservative posters are foregoing the family values/pro life stance of their party and rallying around the flag of character does not matter as long as our candidate wins.

So I guess the shrill cries about abortion, character, adultery, personal responsibility, family values, and ethics that the pious conservatives bombard us with are nothing more than theatrical bombast.

Perhaps Mr. DeJarlais got his christian values from this cast of characters http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scandals_involving_evangelical_Christians#Peter_Popoff.2C_1987

October 11, 2012 at 5:38 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

jesse: The French army has sunburned armpits.

October 11, 2012 at 6:05 p.m.
chatt_man said...

Hey Timbo, sorry to change the subject. But, since Florida just approved to set goals in public school student performance, based on race and ethnicity — with lower benchmarks for African-American, Native American, and Hispanic students, and higher ones for white and Asian-American students, does that mean we now hire based on the same criteria?

One more question...not that I miss them, but did Happy and Easy commit themselves after the debate, to a place that doesn't have internet?

October 11, 2012 at 6:07 p.m.
dude_abides said...

I don't know which is more disgusting, watching this jerk's ads on TV, walking with the woman he's made to look like a fool and their child, or seeing these conservatives talk about how his vote is the only important thing. They are basically admitting that winning the election is all that matters. This is why it is critical to confront them at every turn, even in a state in which the election is a foregone conclusion. A pig before swine. Once again, I feel morally superior to these conservative hacks, and awash in unction.

October 11, 2012 at 6:09 p.m.
chatt_man said...

That's correct hotdiggity, Obama can drive more than our economy to the cliff.

October 11, 2012 at 6:10 p.m.
Leaf said...

dude, awash in unction! Best turn of phrase I've seen this week.
Realistically though, since Republicans these days vote in lockstep anyway, I guess it doesn't matter what warm body fills the seat. They're pretty much interchangeable lemmings.
(OK, let the "Obamist" labels fly!)

October 11, 2012 at 6:28 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Yadda yadda yadda, blah blah blah! This guy is small potatoes anyway. It's just Clay's liberal way of deflecting from the REAL story of the day: THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION LIED FOR EIGHT DAYS STRAIGHT ABOUT A VIDEO CAUSING THE DEATH OF CHRISTOPHER STEVENS!

THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION DENIED THE ASKED FOR MILITARY PROTECTION FOR CHRISTOPHER STEVENS!

STEVENS WAS ALLOWED A "BODYGUARD" BUT HE HAD TO BE A "SAME SEX" DOMESTIC PARTNER OF A GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE!

WHAT THE F_CK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE??

Mother of Slain State Dept. Official Tired of Being Lied To and Stonewalled by Obama Administration

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/mother-slain-state-dept-official-tired-being-lied-and-stonewalled-obama-administration_654163.html

October 11, 2012 at 6:44 p.m.
Leaf said...

Here are some more politicians who should be disqualified on the basis of their names or other shallow criteria.
Bob Corker - prohibitionist.
Dave Hancock - chronic masturbator.
Roy Blunt - pothead.
John Boozman - drunk.
Barbara Boxer - punchy.
Saxby Chambliss - c'mon, Saxby's not even a real name.
John Kerry - face too long.
Al Franken - never funny on SNL.
Lindsey Graham - in the closet.
Nancy Pelosi - too skinny.
Henry Waxman - superhero even more lame than Aquaman.

October 11, 2012 at 6:48 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Now leaf, that's pretty funny. Roy Blunt-pothead! HAHA!!

October 11, 2012 at 6:52 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Leaf, with those nostrils, it would be suicide for Henry Waxman to submerge.

October 11, 2012 at 7:18 p.m.
jesse said...

Hey dude .about the most disgusting thing on here is reading your adolescent tirades and assaults on all on here that happin to have a differant perspective on national evente than you do! Some where along the line you have decided that you have ALL the wisdom and knowledge you need to tell every body else how they need to be thinkin!Actually you have your head about 3 feet up your ass!!

October 11, 2012 at 7:25 p.m.
potcat said...

Marion County was Democratic forever untill 4 yrs. ago. I have lived in the Jasper area for decades and i could feel the change coming just by talking to people and made the conclusuon it was the churches and preachers telling the chior how to vote. Desjarlais was a well known whore and quack, but to be on Gods side the Churches convinced the people that they had to vote Republican because they stood for family values and a vote Democratic was a vote for Abortion, Gay Marriage and every sin in the book.

When the Whore won over Davis who served this district as good as anyone could, i was shocked. Then i remenbered that feeling i had that the tide had turned and for the most immoral man in Marion CO. i felt cold.

He will win this time and Marion Co. will now go Republican every time. It would'nt matter if they showed a film of him at the abortion clinic paying for it, the choir will vote family values because the Preacher told them too. Its a lie of course, but when has that ever mattered to the willful ignorants that have to be told how to vote. i'm completely disgusted with the whole thing.

October 11, 2012 at 7:35 p.m.
dude_abides said...

jessie... Lucky me, look at the money I'll save on radiology! You need to loosen your suspenders. They're making you walk around on your tiptoes and sound like Minnie Pearl, you old hound dog, you. You need a vacation, jessie! Head up to Gatlinburg and get you a gallon of sweet sorghum and some Mother Goose throw pillows. Live LARGE! Maybe pick up some flatware fashioned from a plow.

October 11, 2012 at 7:44 p.m.
degage said...

Leaf, you are to kind to some of these names . Nancy Polosi is worse than to skinny. and Waxman reminds me of a pig with that nose. Kerrys eyes are to close together, to name some.

October 11, 2012 at 8:47 p.m.
sjs823 said...

I live in the 4th District. I don't care if Scott DesJarlais is a hypocrite. There is one thing he is not. He is NOT a Democrat. So he won't go to Washington and vote to steal my money and redistribute it to people who have never worked as hard as I or made the sacrifices I have made to succeed.

I will vote for DesJarlais. And because of the cartoon above and the slanderous editorial in today's Times, I'll go get one of his yard signs and put it in my yard tomorrow.

October 11, 2012 at 9:57 p.m.
ricardo said...

Paul Ryan got schooled by Biden.

October 11, 2012 at 10:39 p.m.
tderng said...

Biden was a smarmy,disrespectful,court jester.

October 11, 2012 at 10:49 p.m.
moon4kat said...

sjs823, you are proving once again that the only "value" the GOP represents is making money. That's their only God.
The GOP's hysteria about abortion is a smoke-screen. They don't call it "murder" when obtained by one of their own hypocrites, like DesJarlais. They think it's perfectly okay for him to pressure a woman to abort, but not okay to allow poor women to make their own choice about whether to have an unwanted child.

October 11, 2012 at 11:03 p.m.
mymy said...

Biden tried to be assertive, but came off as rude, disrespectful and a smirking jerk.

October 11, 2012 at 11:05 p.m.
ricardo said...

Ryan railed against the Obama Afghanistan and Iran policy, only to agree that he and Romney would do exactly what Obama is currently doing. What an idiot.

October 11, 2012 at 11:09 p.m.
hotdiggity said...

Ryan tried to be sincere, but came off as outclassed by Biden.

October 11, 2012 at 11:12 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Debate reminded me of why I have hated that pompous, know it all, condescending, camera mugging, self important, a-hole for over thirty years. Yes, I mean Plugs Biden. Hideous individual.

October 11, 2012 at 11:14 p.m.
hotdiggity said...

Yeah Jack, those facts Biden laid out certainly could be construed as pompous, condescending, and know it all in your conservative universe.

October 11, 2012 at 11:22 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Ryan is more of a smart ass than I suspected. Biden is obviously a more authentic, down to earth guy. The most comic moment came when Raddatz mentioned the possibility of Ryan's children someday being deployed overseas. They may be deployed to Cambridge for a couple of semesters. LOL

October 11, 2012 at 11:22 p.m.
hotdiggity said...

Perhaps we should ask our illustrious local conservative conscience, Roy Exum, if he would care to weigh in on this local issue concerning Mr. DesJarlais. I'm watching the chattanoogan.com to see if he deems it worthy of his attention.

Perhaps he could direct the same amount of passion to this issue as he felt was warranted in disparaging the outgoing UTC Chancellor for upholding the law of separation of church and state regarding school prayer. Perhaps he could comment on the differences in the character of the two individuals.

http://www.chattanoogan.com/2012/9/13/234159/Roy-Exum-Now-God-Feels-Left-Out.aspx

http://www.chattanoogan.com/2012/9/2/233398/Roy-Exum-A-Nation-Gone-Under.aspx

Hey Roy, here is a local issue you can seek your teeth into. Of course any disparaging remarks of this conservative might not be popular with your Tea Party buddies over at the Patriot Post.

http://patriotpost.us/opinion/4922

October 11, 2012 at 11:29 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

diggity: Facts aren't facts just because Plugs repeatedly told you so. And loudly. Doubt any voters gained or lost tonite.

October 11, 2012 at 11:31 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Most perfidious moment was when Ryan tried to work up crocodile tears after bringing up the subject of a constituent losing relatives in a car wreck. Was this an effort to knock Biden out off his game? Did Ryan and his debate coach really think this would be a good subject to broach? Are these the type decisions he would make in the White House? No matter how you look at it, that was poor form.

October 11, 2012 at 11:34 p.m.
dude_abides said...

LOL Jack_ declares a draw! What does that tell you?

October 11, 2012 at 11:37 p.m.
alprova said...

Dude, Biden trumped that attempt with the reference to his own wife and daughter having died in a car wreck. I guess they didn't think that one through...

October 11, 2012 at 11:38 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Yeah, al, Ryan looked "like a duck hit on the head."

October 11, 2012 at 11:52 p.m.
alprova said...

I have to say, with the exception of Ryan fumbling a few facts surrounding Afghanistan, and a couple of very misleading statements, he did a fine job of holding his own in his first debate, but he clearly stuck to the script that he has offered repeatedly on the campaign trail.

Biden hit all the high spots, and he was just a wee bit condescending at at times, but that is the quintessential Joe Biden.

As others have offered, I doubt anyone was swayed on the basis of these two men sparring tonight. All things considered, both men did a great job of representing their bosses.

I do feel that Ryan will be taken to task for offering more misleading statements, especially when he tried to run away from his plan to privatize Social Security and for ducking AGAIN questions about the details as to how they propose to pay for that 20% tax cut plan.

I was pleased to hear Joe Biden offer some substance to refute the GOP accusations surrounding the events of 9/11/12 in Libya.

October 11, 2012 at 11:55 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Every time tu_ posts, I just scroll down, find the breitbart link, and move along. Uninteresting is an understatement.

October 11, 2012 at 11:58 p.m.
alprova said...

It's way too early to put any faith in any polls taken immediately following the debate.

I think we can all agree that it was definitely worth watching, no matter who we feel won. There were far more hits than there were misses.

October 12, 2012 at 12:01 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Dear Democrats: When your candidate is referred to as "Odd," "off-putting," "manic," "condescending" & "over-the-top" by MSM, you lost.

October 12, 2012 at 2:09 a.m.
fairmon said...

The VP debate was a waste of time. Both were trying to represent their boss and accomplished that. Biden behaved like the buffoon he is known to be, laughing at the wrong time, interrupting and talking over others but did no harm to his boss.

October 12, 2012 at 5:13 a.m.
degage said...

I was suprised by the disrespect the VP had for the people, moderator, Ryan and the debate by interupting Ryan when he was answering a question and antics while Ryan was speaking. Seemed he didn't take the debate serious. I do understand if you don't have anything to run on you have to distract.

I was also suprised Biden didn't know the embassy in lybia had asked for more security before the attack. I watched the officials from the state dept admit to the commitee they had been asked for more security and it was turned down. Biden should have been up to date on that, but he said they hadn't asked for any. I came away with the idea he was trying to use scare tactics to win points with the seniors , well it didn't work with this senior.

October 12, 2012 at 8 a.m.
jesse said...

I didn't even watch it!I figured why waste my time on something that will have no relevance to what ACTUALLY will come about!

IT'S ALL rhetoric and has no meaning once the election is over!

Kinda a "read my lips" situation!

BTW: tq laid some funny shat down w/ the post about "kicking his dogs ass"!didn't know she had it in her!LOL

HEY DUDE I'm takin your advice,headed to Telico and gonna do some trout fishin for 3 or 4 days!i owe you one!think up some new ways to get on your azz while i'm up there!

October 12, 2012 at 8:02 a.m.
mymy said...

25 Days to Go!

It is still the economy/jobs/foreign policy/direction of country/National Security here/abroad and the growing debt.

Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock

October 12, 2012 at 8:56 a.m.
alprova said...

I think mymy was on national television last night...

October 12, 2012 at 9:27 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

jesse: If you think murdering trout is morally defensible, then by all means, head on out.

October 12, 2012 at 9:33 a.m.
jesse said...

Hey Jack,i only murder enough for dinner each nite i'm there so while it may not be "defensible" it is sure nuff good chewin! Taking 4 bott.of turning leaf sauvignon blanc just in case i happin to catch some!If i don't the wine will go good w/beanie weeneys!

October 12, 2012 at 9:59 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Biden claimed in the debate that he voted against the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. In fact, he voted for both. Let's all ignore this small fib. No one's looking.

October 12, 2012 at 10 a.m.
dude_abides said...

Jack_Dennis said... "jesse: If you think murdering trout is morally defensible, then by all means, head on out."

Jack_ and his lighthearted abortion/fishing rejoinders.

October 12, 2012 at 10:06 a.m.
dude_abides said...

Just think it out, alprova, just think it out. I never knew being born here meant nothing.

October 12, 2012 at 10:33 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

jesse: A dark day in our history was when they stopped making beenie weenie chili flavored. Course any of'em will give you great gas....just ask dude_ or ALPO.

October 12, 2012 at 10:46 a.m.
Leaf said...

Biden seemed more real than Ryan. He's been there doing the stuff that Ryan has only read about. He had specifics, Ryan had vague promises that don't add up.

October 12, 2012 at 11:19 a.m.
jesse said...

What STUFF has Biden been doin????

Besides stickin his foot in his mouth and makin Obama look like an idjit for pickin him for a running mate!!

October 12, 2012 at 11:23 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

Alprova,the woman in the video you posted sounds not only like mymy but almost any of the Obama haters who post here who are always calling him a socialist or communist or Marxist. She obviously didn't have a clue what a communist really is, nor do these posters who refer to him in the same vein. They just like to resort to their senseless, knee-jerk name calling. The woman was funny and at the same time pathetic: "You need to study it out. You need to do your homework, buddy." Priceless. The woman obviously needs to do a little studying herself.

October 12, 2012 at 12:02 p.m.
jesse said...

All you leftist and rightest and middleist sound like idjits!

if you ever get over tellin each other how stupid (or whatever!) the other side is and take a realistic look at where we are as a nation and see what is gonna go down over the next 50 years it's would prob. put you in a rubber room if you are young enough to think you will have to live thru it!!

October 12, 2012 at 12:12 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Biden's performance, as Obama's, was expected. They are both insufferable narcissists in over their heads. Yeah, that sounds about right.

October 12, 2012 at 12:41 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

The lies within lies multiply. Now the White House is saying in perfectly Clinton-esque style that when Biden said “we” didn’t know about the security request from Benghazi he just meant himself and the president. This is pathetic. Does the State Department not report to the president? Was the national security adviser unaware of what was going on in Libya? An administration that must resort so frequently to pleas of incompetence is not one to be entrsuted with national security. -Jennifer Rubin

October 12, 2012 at 12:48 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Does the "heartbeat away" thing really not bother you lefties? Seriously.

October 12, 2012 at 12:55 p.m.
miraweb said...

Not at all. I thought it was very gentlemanly of Biden not to make an issue of his opponent's youth and inexperience.

Funny how Romney's bullying the moderator was "leadership" but if Biden interrupts it is just horribly unfair.

A good debate. Ryan came off having more ambition than experience, though. Better control by the moderator. Next round Romney gets to meet the middle class. He's probably watching National Geographic specials to learn more about their strange ways now.

And picking up more Purell - just in case.

October 12, 2012 at 1:32 p.m.
jesse said...

JACK ,the only heartbeat that really gits my attn. is my own!! all the rest of the B.S. on here is just "entertainment!

October 12, 2012 at 1:34 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Mira: Townhall should suit The Exalted One fine. I'm sure Axelrod will load audience with softballers asking Obama stuff like "What's your sign", etc.

October 12, 2012 at 1:42 p.m.
miraweb said...

My money is on Granny from Des Moines by the third round. Second if he tells her she can make up the difference between her Medicare voucher and her hospital bill by borrowing money from her parents.

October 12, 2012 at 2:01 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Too bad Raddatz didn't challenge Plugs on his statement that he voted against both wars..Just a minor point, I guess.

October 12, 2012 at 2:04 p.m.
degage said...

Jack, Obama probably didn't know. He has been campaigning instead of attending security meetings. Even if it is his job to know these things he has better things to do than his job.

Some think he can't know everything. Well the security of our embassies is something he should know all about even if he is busy partying with the hollywood crowd.

October 12, 2012 at 2:19 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

deegage: Maybe appearing on The View is more important. Or Letterman, Or George Clooney's castle. You're just talking security for our diplomats. All depends on your POV.

October 12, 2012 at 2:23 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Thank God he's not following in Bush's footsteps, basically murdering 5000 Americans by sending them to Iraq on a personal vendetta. How about that point of view Jack_?

October 12, 2012 at 2:41 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Biden is nothing more than a angry, rich, old white alcoholic who lacks composure. Face it, he made a complete a_shole of himself and the democratic party last night.

October 12, 2012 at 2:51 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

The dupe forgets that a congress run by democrats gave permission for the Iraq war. The first question Obama faced about Benghazi was from Dave the f-uckwad Letterman. Very presidential.

October 12, 2012 at 3:03 p.m.
hotdiggity said...

Looks like Romney got no love for DesJarlais.

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2012/oct/12/desjarlais-endorsement-vanishes-romney-site/?breakingnews

No class, no character, no conscience, no problem for his family values supporters.

-Serial adulterer, 4 admitted affairs--Check -Lied about pro life support--Check -Broke his Hippocratic Oath--Check -Broke his marriage oath--Check -Hypocrite--Check

All this while loudly proclaiming his Christian, family values, pro life stance. Good luck voters in the 4th District.

October 12, 2012 at 3:06 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Thank who duped? Did you mention God? With a capital "G" no less? Huh...that's so unbecoming of you.

October 12, 2012 at 3:06 p.m.
jesse said...

O.K. WE kicked iraqs ass under FALSE PRETENSES!!so what! SO it kept us from going back 10 years later and doing it the HARD WAY!!

October 12, 2012 at 3:44 p.m.
jesse said...

hey hotdiggity,thats all true BUT he didn't be gittin no blow job in the oval office while on the phone w/a head of state! SO why don't ya give us the benifit of your wisdom on that little nugget??

October 12, 2012 at 3:54 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

can't answer your question dude_; As usual, your post has nothing to do with what I said.

October 12, 2012 at 4:20 p.m.
fairmon said...

Biden is a rude Butt hole. His laughing and interruptions were timed to prevent Ryan from making a point about an issue. Not a bad strategy if he thought it would play well with voters, what people think of Biden will not matter and it did distract the attention from Ryan. Biden frustrated the moderator a time or two. As he said who do you believe? Who do you trust? Thank goodness I don't have to make that decision if I vote for Gary Johnson. I would not trust Biden in an out house with a muzzle on.

October 12, 2012 at 5:18 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

State Dept announces that on 9/11/12, the US Marines were protecting the consulate in Barbados. Bareffingbados!

October 12, 2012 at 6:34 p.m.
miraweb said...

Like a vampire (or a bad penny) - Nathan Sproul rides again!

The political consultant fired by the Republican National Committee amid fraud allegations in Florida is now hiring workers for a voter canvassing operation this fall in as many as 30 states, his spokesman said.

Nathan Sproul, whose career as a GOP get-out-the-vote consultant has been dogged by reports of fraudulent registrations, has been advertising for $15-an-hour workers for “conservative voter identification” in Virginia, Wisconsin and Iowa.

‘No experience is necessary!” says the ad, first reported by the liberal blog BlueNC. “All you need to qualify is a positive attitude and a strong work ethic to get the job done.” The ad says applicants must pass a criminal background check.

For the latest work, Sproul is using a company called Issue Advocacy Partners, set up in April at an attorney’s office in Delaware. Like the firm hired by the RNC, Strategic Allied Consulting, the Delaware company does not list Sproul’s name as an officer.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-fired-rnc-consultant-canvassing-campaign-20121012,0,2171682.story

October 12, 2012 at 6:47 p.m.
ricardo said...

I wonder why Reagan didn't provide more security for these men?

October 12, 2012 at 6:50 p.m.
ricardo said...

I wonder why Bush didn't provide more security for these innocent people?

October 12, 2012 at 6:52 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

apples and kumquats, ricky.

October 12, 2012 at 7:09 p.m.
tderng said...

ricardo...re the 6:50 post.They were the security dip$hit.Also they hadn't asked for more security (and been denied)several times before the attack.Nor had they been attacked several times before this attack.

Re 6:52 post. No security would have stopped the planes from hitting the towers.Short of having anti-aircraft guns atop every building in America there was no way to defend against that attack.Passenger aircraft had never been used in this way before.However assaults against American embassies in volatile Islamic countries had. A marine detachment at our embassy in France,but less than minimal security in a country full of anti-American jihadists? Someone screwed up royally,which is forgivable.Trying to cover it up IS NOT!!!

October 12, 2012 at 7:22 p.m.
mymy said...

Fact Checking The Fiery V.P. Debate

When it comes to the facts that matter to the most to the most of us- the ones about the economy, the jobs market, the debt and the deficit, it's pretty easy to obfuscate, shadow dance, and outright distort what's going on. We saw a lot of that in last night's Vice Presidential debate.

Read more: http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/willis-report/blog/2012/10/12/fact-checking-fiery-vp-debate#ixzz298GyUD8g

October 12, 2012 at 8:01 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Jesse boasts: “O.K. WE kicked Iraqis ass under FALSE PRETENSES!!so what! SO it kept us from going back 10 years later and doing it the HARD WAY!!”

Spoken like a true sniveling twit. . . Or maybe just an ordinary neocon wannbe.

To date, 6,591 U.S. service members died as a direct result of the lies peddled by George W Bush, Dick Cheney and the rest of that arrogant self-serving neo-con crowd – who I might mention have just been re-hired by your Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney.

Personally, I think they all should all be locked up for a hundred years in a cell with walls covered with photographs of the faces of everyone who died as a result of their lies.

http://apps.washingtonpost.com/national/fallen/

And all of their financial assets should be added up and distributed among the 1.8 million Iraqi families who have either lost loved ones or been displaced to neighboring countries as a result of the lies peddled by Bush, Cheney and the rest of that Republican neo-con crowd.

October 12, 2012 at 8:04 p.m.
degage said...

Laurel, you seem to be lost in the past. This is 2012 not 2003 and bush is not president but Obama is and it is his turn to make the decisions. BUt since he has no clue what is going on it is no wonder things aren't going to well. He would rather party instead of giong to security meetings, had he gone to the breifings he might have known what is going on.

October 12, 2012 at 8:16 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Degage said: "Laurel, you seem to be lost in the past.This is 2012 not 2003 and bush is not president but Obama is and it is his turn to make the decisions. BUt since he has no clue what is going on it is no wonder things aren't going to well.

Thanks for the advice, Degage, but I was responding to an insensitive post written by Jesse in which he brought up the issue of former President Bush invading Iraq under false pretenses.

As to President Obama, I believe he has done a good job in rebuilding America’s relationships with other countries after those reckless days and policies of the Bush/Cheney administration. Indeed, I have a lot more confidence in President Obama than Mitt Romney who is obviously trying to take America back to those disastrous neocon foreign policies.

“Out of Romney's 24 special advisors on foreign policy, 17 served in the Bush-Cheney administration. If Romney were to win, it's likely that many of these people would serve in his administration in some capacity -- a frightening prospect given the legacy of this particular group. The last time they were in government, it was disastrous.

For example, one of Romney's top surrogates on the campaign trail is John Bolton, who served as President George W. Bush's ambassador to the United Nations. Bolton embodies the reckless neoconservative thinking that was largely responsible for getting us into Iraq under false pretenses. Today, he openly roots for diplomacy with Iran to fail and is all-too-eager to send our men and women in uniform into war. Last year, for instance, Bolton said that, "It would be in our interest to overthrow this regime in Syria."

The idea of Bolton and other Bush-Cheney officials serving in a Romney administration should be a scary prospect for all Americans."

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/07/12/the_romney_cheney_doctrine?page=full

October 12, 2012 at 9:06 p.m.
ricardo said...

Paul Ryan's love-hate relationship with stimulus money:

http://newsone.com/2059317/paul-ryan-stimulus/

Fiscal conservative, my a$$

October 12, 2012 at 9:16 p.m.
patriot1 said...

Joey got issues

October 12, 2012 at 9:30 p.m.
tderng said...

God forbid a congressman for doing his job.The money is going somewhere so might as well get it for his own constituents.

October 12, 2012 at 9:40 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Ricardo reports: "Paul Ryan's love-hate relationship with stimulus money."

Huffington Post unearthed additional letters in which Ryan is asking for Recovery Act funds:

“A Freedom of Information Act request for correspondence between Ryan's office and the Environmental Protection Agency, filed by The Huffington Post, unearthed two additional instances in which the Wisconsin Republican petitioned for American Recovery Act funds.

In addition, there were many other occasions in which the GOP vice presidential nominee asked the EPA for grant money for projects in Wisconsin's 1st District, which encompasses Ryan's hometown of Janesville and has a slight Democratic lean. Combined, the letters muddy Ryan's claim that the stimulus wasn't helpful and that government spending, more broadly, doesn't assist small businesses. . .

". . . the letters' language reveals a congressman who was involved in reviewing the applications and determining that taxpayer money could be useful economically. Moreover, the direct petitioning of the EPA could prove awkward for the Republican ticket, owing to the insistence among many in the GOP that the agency is a hindrance and should be eliminated.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/12/paul-ryan-stimulus-funds_n_1962163.html

The Associated Press reported on some of the letters on Friday morning. It did not post copies of the letters, which The Huffington Post has done below.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/109858723/Paul-Ryan-Letters

October 12, 2012 at 9:59 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

did Easy123 join the Peace Corp?

October 12, 2012 at 10:43 p.m.
tderng said...

Jack...I think he crawled back under the rock from whence he slithered and it shifted and crushed him and happy.

October 12, 2012 at 11:37 p.m.
alprova said...

"White House: Obama and Biden were never aware of requests for more Benghazi security"

The State Department security officials who testified before House "Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa's panel Wednesday never said they had made their requests to the president, Rhodes pointed out. That would be natural because the State Department is responsible for diplomatic security, not the White House, he said. Rhodes also pointed out that the officials were requesting more security in Tripoli, not Benghazi."

"..."All of us at post were in sync that we wanted these resources," the top regional security officer in Libya over the summer, Eric Nordstrom, testified. "In those conversations, I was specifically told [by Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Charlene Lamb] ‘You cannot request an SST [Site Security Team] extension.' I determined I was told that because there would be too much political cost. We went ahead and requested it anyway."..."

"At Thursday night's debate, Rep. Paul Ryan seemed to suggest that the requests were for Marines to go to Libya, which was not the case. The requests were to extend the tours of a Mobile Security Detachments [MSD] and the Site Security Team [SST] at the U.S. embassy in Tripoli, which are teams of military personnel, not Marines, who can help protect an embassy and its personnel."

"Ryan also erred when he criticized the State Department for assigning Marines to protect the ambassador in France but not Amb. Chris Stevens, who died in Benghazi on Sept. 11."

"..."Our ambassador in Paris has a marine detachment guarding him, shouldn't we have a Marine detachment guarding our ambassador in Benghazi?," Ryan said."

"According to the U.S. Embassy Paris website, there is a Marine Security Guard Detachment in the embassy, but they are there primarily to protect classified information and are not part of the ambassador's personal security detail."

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/10/12/white_house_obama_and_biden_were_never_aware_of_requests_for_more_benghazi_security

October 13, 2012 at 12:26 a.m.
degage said...

Don't you guys remember Easy123 saying he got paid for each post? I had a good laugh on that one. Maybe he really was getting paid and he lost his job. As for Happy, wouldn't have a clue why he droped out, unless he has come back as someone else. Maybe he became a conservative and didn't want his old buddies to know.

October 13, 2012 at 8:10 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

I wonder if mountainoyster did any research on how many democrats voted for the Iraq war. Joe Biden did. And so did hilarious Clinton. Among many others. How many republicans voted for the military (action) in Libya? Oh wait, they couldn't because Obama went around congress yet again with an illegal use of our military.

October 13, 2012 at 10:07 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Dems Confirm Hussein's WMD's

mountainoyster needs to watch this video of democrats supporting the the Iraq war. You can't rewrite history oyster.

October 13, 2012 at 10:10 a.m.
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