published Monday, October 15th, 2012

5-at-10: Weekend of hot seats, cold showings and perception/reality moments

Gang, we've got a ton to get to, so buckle up.

From the "Talks too much" studios, here we go...

Real perceptions and perceiving reality

There are times when the spin and the hype and the hope of something different makes you see things that are not there. Not unlike the water mirage in the desert made famous in old-school cartoons, the mental picture that you want to see starts fuzzy, it develops slightly and our inner voice describes the edges and makes it sharp.

It doesn't however make it real.

Auburn is a bad football team. Tennessee is only average at best and likely below that. LSU is a national power that has been in big games and knows how to deliver in the national spotlight that comes with top-10 matchups. No matter what we thought otherwise — or wanted or needed to believe — those facts are solid. Dealing with them is up to us.

To do that we must determine if perception is reality:

Perception: The SEC is the best conference in the country.

Reality: The SEC is the best conference in the country. Six of the top 12 teams in this year's initial BCS, and Alabama and Florida in the top two spots, make this undeniable.

Perception: The SEC is the deepest conference in the country.

Reality: This may be true, but it's not as rock solid as in recent years. Alabama's dominance — the Tide have won every game by at least 19 points — damages that argument mightily. In fact, if you were going to break the SEC into a caste system, you have:

Monarchy: Alabama

Royalty: Florida, LSU, South Carolina, Georgia

Upper class: Texas A&M, Mississippi State

Lower class: Vandy, Tennessee, Ole Miss, Missouri

Serfs: Arkansas, Auburn, Kentucky

That's not a deep, healthy league thriving amid competition; that's a king and his kingdom. The SEC is better than everyone else, but this SEC is not better than the SEC of two or three years ago.

Perception: Notre Dame is back.

Reality: Notre Dame is much better, but they are not back. Too much of this team is built around one super senior linebacker and a schedule that is not as tough as we thought — Michigan and Michigan State are shadows of what we expected. There are whispers that the Irish could finish unbeaten and not make the BCS title game (And folks, if you want the four-team playoff set for 2014 to get here quicker, pray that a 12-0 Notre Dame team is left on the outside looking in at an Alabama-Oregon title game. There will be a revolt.)

Perception: Florida is back.

Reality: Florida is back and will be here for the long haul. And for anyone who believed Will Muschamp was the guy their team should have hired when their team had an opening in recent years, well, dude is delivering the goods. Muschamp entered the season with as much pressure as anyone, and the Gators have made the switch from spread to power and still have spread speed. Plus, he has a young team that will be better next year, which is saying something considering the Gators are No. 2 in the BCS this morning.

Perception: Florida is the most surprising team in the SEC.

Reality: As great as Florida's turnaround is, we'll take Texas A&M as the league's biggest surprise. The Aggies let Florida off the hook last month in College Station, and are 5-1 with a new coach and a new quarterback. How have the rest of the offenses that lost first-round QBs looked this fall, and that's with the same head coach in place? Stanford, Baylor, Oklahoma State have all regressed. First-year Aggies coach Kevin Sumlin has redshirt freshman Johnny Manziel in line to rewrite the college football record books. Manziel, who has earned the most-excellent nickname of Johnny Football, has set and reset the single-game total offense record this year.

Perception: The 5-at-10's Fab 4 (plus one) picks are rolling.

Reality: The 5-at-10's Fab 4 (plus one) picks are rolling, and hopefully that does not jinx us. After going 3-1-1 this week — Alabama was a dunk, the under the 78 in the West Virginia-Texas Tech game landed easily, and South Carolina plus-3 sneaked by in the narrowest of margins, the Troy-Western Kentucky under 57 pushed on the number, and Ohio State minus-17 went from good pick to good grief when Indiana scored two cosmetic touchdowns in the final two minutes — we're 24-11-1 against the spread. That's not too shabby, even for entertainment-only purposes.


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    Auburn football coach Gene Chizik talks about the shootings of college students including a couple of football players with the media on Tuesday, June 12, 2012, in Auburn, Ala.
    Photo by Associated Press /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

Coaching hot seats

As our ace columnist Mark Wiedmer wrote in today's TFP there are fair and tough questions being asked in Auburn and Knoxville after fruitless trips to Mississippi this weekend.

The numbers are not pretty for Gene Chizik or Derek Dooley.

That Chizik is 31-15 with a national title in his three and a half years in Auburn merit the fact that he deserves a mulligan. That he's 17-15 in his two plus years at Auburn without Cam Newton delivering the single greatest season in college football history is not exactly confidence-inspiring. Plus, great recruiting classes and highly regarded recruits have not exactly been improving during the last three years.

Dooley was dealt a far worse scenario than Chizik. The Vols were hollow and lifeless after the 13-month fling with Ole What'shisname. And the fact that Dooley has tried to lay a foundation the right way deserves notice. It's hard to recognize that, though, because of the neon flashing 0-13 — Dooley's well-documented record against ranked teams as the UT head coach. And this just in, you're going to play a few ranked teams every year in the SEC.

As for the dumpster fire that is your Auburn Tigers, we believe Mean Gene will survive this debacle. We believe offensive coordinator Scot Loeffler will not.

As for the underwhelming and predictable Tennessee Vols, we believe the jury is completely out on Derek Dooley. Yes, we've said that we thought seven wins and a good showing in the bowl game would be enough for Dooley and his orange pants to see a fourth year in the 865.

This morning we're not so sure. But the jury's verdict depends on the answer to this question: Who are you going to get? Who is out there that is worth the $12-plus million it's going to take to make this right?

If you think Jon Gruden is really interested, you call Big Jim Haslem and make that happen by lunch on Wednesday. You do not push the reset button, however, for another question mark. You can't. There's too much at stake.


Everything else

College football dominates around these parts. You know that, we know that, even the pumpkin on our front porch knows that.

That said, there's a slew of other stuff out there. Let's do a top-5 non-college football list of sports items of interest from the weekend:

1) Playoff baseball rocks. We're hooked. This has been as enjoyable a baseball postseason as we can remember, especially considering the Braves nor the Dodgers are involved. The St. Louis Cardinals are a first-class organization that lost their manager and the best player in the game and are still in the mix for a world title. Well played indeed.

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    Trainer Steve Donohue, second from left, and New York Yankees manager Joe Girardi, second from right, help Derek Jeter off the field after he injured himself during Game 1 of the American League championship series against the Detroit Tigers Sunday, Oct. 14, 2012, in New York. New York Yankees' Robinson Cano, left, and Eric Chavez stood by.
    Photo by Associated Press /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

2) Derek Jeter is a stud. Dude broke his ankle and is done for the year. You know this. Did you notice the way he immediately threw the ball to second baseman Robinson Cano despite the relentless pain? Did you know that when the Yankees staff came out, he refused to be carried off the field. Hate the Yankees all you want, but you have to respect Jeter — even you Spy.

3) Dale Jr. sits with a concussion. Interesting subplot to Junior rightly sitting because of multiple concussions was that Jeff Gordon said he would have likely kept quiet about it and drove any way. Sounds like the Rainbow Warrior called Junior out, no? And somewhere, Dale Sr. said, "Tape a Goody's Powder to it and get in the car."

4) Not unlike the college football antics, the NFL reminded us about the power system and that the teams we know are good are in fact good. Green Bay and the New York football Giants delivered big-boy efforts on Sunday.

5) College basketball practice started around the country this weekend, and a slew of the usual suspects will again be the frontrunners. Kentucky, UNC, Kansas, Duke, etc. will be in the mix.


This and that

— Tyler Bray has apologized for his social media message after Saturday night's loss in Starkville. Playing off his buddy Aaron Murray, who had his house vandalized after Georgia's loss to South Carolina nine days ago, Bray tweeted "We got some bandwagon fans. Hopefully my apt. Isn't egged." The backlash was quick and direct — some of Bray's 32,000 followers rightly retorted that UT's fans were frustrated. And some were quick to remind Bray, who had an offseason of discontent that included being picked up by authorities for throwing beer containers at cars, that those who live in glass beer bottles should not throw twitter bombs (or glass beer bottles).

— This is high-quality sideline reporting right here Dude gets hit in the face with a football and barely misses a beat. That said, he did ask if they saw the football hit him in the face. Of course we saw it dude. C'mon.

— Mediation has started between Penn State and at least 20 men who accused Jerry Sandusky of sexually abusing them. The lawyers handling the compensation discussions also handled the talks for Sept. 11 victims and those affected by the 2010 BP oil spill in the Gulf. Let's there are 20 claims — we believe there are least that many and could be twice that total before it's done — what's the over/under on what Penn State's going to pay? Granted the range will be drastic, because any claims that happened after 1998, when Penn State was aware of Sandusky's evilness, the price skyrockets. Let's say there are 20 claims and they average $10 million, so a fair over/under for PSU is $200 million.


Today's question

We're not going to over think this one:

Derek Dooley — is he dead coach walking (or rolling) or will he be in Knoxville next fall?

Discuss — and if you want to debate the future of Mean Gene Chizik, we're game for that one too.

about Jay Greeson...

Jay was named the Sports Editor of the Times Free Press in 2003 and started with the newspaper in May 2002 as the Deputy Sports Editor. He was born and raised in Smyrna, Ga., and graduated from Auburn University before starting his newspaper career in 1997 with the Newnan (Ga.) Times Herald. Stops in Clayton and Henry counties in Georgia and two years as the Sports Editor of the Marietta (Ga.) Daily Journal preceded Jay’s ...

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John_Proctor said...

4 or 5 million to buy out Coach DD and $12 million plus to get the caliber coach needed to make this right? Somebody will need to call Big Jim AND Greg Vital! He did claim he had more money than God, you know.

If you cut DD loose before his 4th year, what statement does that make to any potential replacement? What happens next year when Bray, Patterson, Hunter, et. al., go pro and the program goes back to square one as it was 3 years ago? This is definitely shaping up to be the Vol's Winter of Discontent.

October 15, 2012 at 10:17 a.m.
jomo11 said...

Jay- I have been telling you since August that 7 wins wont keep Dooley's job. Now you said that you didnt think Dooley would be fired unless they drop to 6 wins,back in September. having said that, after Bama and SC the Vols will likely be 3-5, so do 3-5 teams normally bounce back and win 4 straight games ? . . . . .I have always said that Hart wants his own guy ( Kirby Smart ) and that is why Sunseri left a national championship team and chance to coach on a team with his son. I think Hart gauranteed him some job security . . .although hiring Sunseri and thinking you get Saban's defense , is like hiring John Grisham's printer to write a novel for you . . .

October 15, 2012 at 10:20 a.m.
JonathanMCook said...

Note: At the time of this writing, I have not read the 5 and 10. I actually showed up to work earlier than normal just to write all this. Enjoy.

I will say this much, it is a well known fact your Monday will be effected by how well your team did on Saturday. So let's get to the good part.


After "years" of lopsided victories by the Purple Paladins, the worm is finally beginning to turn. The Mocs were actually fun to watch especially give the "Young to Rice" tempo of Robinson and Huesman. The only sad part really was poor ESPN who had to make due with the fact less than 4,000 (Frieson stated, and I agree, it was MUCH less than that) were in attendance. I'm guessing Furman has no love in Greenville.

The only problem now is this Saturday is at home against Sanford but it falls on the same weekend as "The Third Weekend in October" (this year in Knoxville). Unfortunately, after Saturday's performance against Mississippi State, I fear that game is going the way of Texas-Oklahama (And yes, the OU crimson was out in full force down here on Sunday)


Note, if the game does have a noon kick-off, hopefully we'll have a good 10,000 in attendence for a three game win streak going into Georgia Southern.

Speaking of which....

Turns out the GSU website was carrying the Wofford game free of charge so I was able to catch the 2nd half of that upset. As I told Mamma Bear back home, it's almost anybody's game (Unless your Western Carolina) when it comes to top of the heap in the SoCon.

So how 'bout them Cowboys? Anyone? Buller? Buller? ::crickets chirping::

At least it was a close game as suppose to the "other Texas team" where Aaron Rogers was going YES WADE PHILLIPS, YOU AND YOUR DEFENSE MAY HAVE ANOTHER! I actually turned it off midway through the third quarter.

And Atlanta is now 6-0? O_O Now there's something I thought I'd never see in my lifetime.

Hopefully this will be an interesting roundtable today.

October 15, 2012 at 10:38 a.m.
JonathanMCook said...

Okay, so after reading said 5 and 10, I agree with a lot of the reality vs. perception of the SEC. It also shows what happens when you are like Auburn and literally put all of your eggs in one basket.

A&M has been the darling of North Texas in recent weeks with Aggie maroon floating about the isles of the local Kroger on MacArthur Blvd before kickoff. Which makes the November 10th game against Alabama all that much sweeter to watch.

Tomorrow Night will be my first UNT game. It's not SEC sexy but it's something I wanted to experience during my time down here.

October 15, 2012 at 10:59 a.m.
chas9 said...

Jay--The wounded Jeter clip is great. Respect, said Aretha.

Good to see basketball get at least a sentence, but your list of usual frontrunners should include Indiana and Louisville. And The Wolfpack may be better than UNC or Dook this time around.

Yes, The SEC is #1, but the Pac-8/10/12 will point out that the Beavers, Ducks, and Trojans are right there. One of them will likely be in the championship game.

Along with Jay's excellent Notre Dame scenario, it's time to begin speculation about which one-loss teams would trump which undefeateds. Louisville is a solid bet to go 12-0 but not make the big game. And The Buckeyes could end up #2 (AP) and miss the big one.

The SEC West went 4-0 against the East Saturday. Pretty clear The Bullies' defensive pros are better than The Vols' pro receivers. And the Cock's pitiful rushing stats defy belief. I say a lot of lame stuff, but I did say after game one that Florida's back.

jomo--It won't be Sunseri. See Weeds' column.

October 15, 2012 at 10:59 a.m.
BIspy4 said...

Jeets' busted up joint sure takes a lot of the focus off one Alex Rodriguez, don't it? Or the focus off a Yankee starting staff that is quite suspect after C.C. Sabuffethia.

October 15, 2012 at 11:11 a.m.
Livn4life said...

Sold on the SEC assessment overall. I am not completely sold on FL being "back", although at home they looked good against LSU. As for the Dooley-do; there is no one who has shown real interest in following him and to get rid of him at least before this season ends is LUDACHRIS!(I know it's misspelled)Let this season play out. But one thing is for sure it is not SMART to get rid of him at all until we know someone who is proven, is available, and truly interested(Not see Weed's column). A Petrino fix would be worse than a....fix, well you know.

Bray...he just doesn't have what it takes to bring a team all the way back. Even when the defense haunches its back and holds, he falls just short. That will prove to be clipboardistic in the NFL. Dooley MUST win all November and at least give a decent showing in a bowl to stay. Of course even at that, there still needs to be garnered interest from someone who knows how to get it going. But we will see. The next few weeks for Volarama will likely be like the song THE STREAK back many years ago; "Don't Look Ethel!" But someone has to look for crying where have all the bigboy Vols gone, IT IS ALABAMA and SOUTH CAROLINA the Big Orange are facing.

Finally, all we know about the NFL deal is it keeps moving. Who woulda thunk the Giants would dismantle a very good SF team in their back yard? Who woulda bleved the Seahawks would upend a very capable New England, who by the way will still tiptoe to the AFC East title? Finally, who thought the 'Boys would go down to the Ravens...Oh I did but not that way! Out...heck I'm Way "out there(Jerry)and loving every minute of it!"(Cramer on Seinfeld)

October 15, 2012 at 11:36 a.m.
BIspy4 said...


That was no upset. Now, it did end a streak of the road team winning every time since 2004. But that was no upset Saturday and the Spy was there to witness it. What bothers Spy (and yes, 5, I know how much you and I both hate the self third person reference, but it's Monday and I'm groggy and I'm still fuming at Bill Belichick for getting outcoached by Pete Carroll ... by Pete Carroll!) is Georgia was off. Tech was off. It was a battle of two top 10 FCS teams and a conference rival. No reason there shouldn't have been less than 24K in the house Saturday. Had just under 21K. A good crowd to be sure but really could have been, should have been, bigger. Props to my boys for not only not completing any passes in beating Wofford but not even attempting any passes.

With all this push to join the FBS (don't get me started), I checked the attendance figures at Sun Belt conference games Saturday. One game had more than Southern's figure Saturday. The rest were between 15K-18K. Southern even outdrew most of the C-USA games, save for a couple. And this is a step up?

Did I mention Bill Belichick got outcoached by Pete Cheerleader Carroll? I don't know what's more improbable - that, or the Atlanta Falcons being 6-0? See what happens when you get rid of VanGorder?

October 15, 2012 at 11:36 a.m.
chas9 said...

DD's 0-13 number isn't as powerful as the 1-19 number against the entire SEC, which would be 0-20 if they hadn't beaten Vandy in overtime. Vandy.

October 15, 2012 at 11:51 a.m.
Todd962 said...

I caught the end of the UTC game on ESPN 3. Wow, is that an awful experience or what. HD television has spoiled me. However, I agree with Mr. Cook in that the crowd resembled a high school day game. Not a great turnout for the boys in purple.

Hey Jay, uhhhhh, a guy jumped out of space this weekend and landed on Earth to tell about it. Crikey.

October 15, 2012 at 12:02 p.m.
Blueoval said...

Wiedmer's article is getting a lot of comments on a Knoxville site I was on earlier. I would not like to see Petrino in Knoxville. UT's problem isn't the offense, they've scored enough points in each of their loses to win the game. It's the defense that's the problem. Maybe instead of buying Dooley out they should put Coach Sal on the Bama bus when it leaves Knoxville next Saturday night. Some of the players on defense looked very confused and out of place before the snap on a lot plays against Miss St. Giving up as many plays over 10 yds as they have is crazy. Are the only possible wins left Troy and Kentucky? I would like to think not but it's sure looking like it.

October 15, 2012 at 12:08 p.m.
ordinaryguy said...

JMC I don't think the bloodletting in Ktown will have as much of a negative impact as you might think...The Mocs are on a roll and I would still look for over 10K at the game this week...If Dooley's seat is not hot, it should be...It was indeed sad to see the best player in the game, Jeter, end his season and dash the hopes of the greatest franchise in sports history to add another title...and on a high school football note...the lack of love shown to Ridgeland is mysterious, fewer than ten miles from the Chattanooga city limits and yet seems a million miles away...when was the last time you heard of a team taking a knee in the first half...the story goes they did Friday night...

October 15, 2012 at 12:12 p.m.
chas9 said...

Sorry, I got ahead of myself. What I meant to say is that Double D is 1-10 against the SEC the past two years, with only a win over The Commodores.

October 15, 2012 at 12:19 p.m.
fechancellor said...

Ten Ring,

A coach can't fired for going 7-5, however there is some cause here. This not finishing business is a coaching failure pure and simple. Execution also falls on his shoulders. Too boot, Dooley is no field general either.

6-6 could be another matter, but we're talking Mike Shula costly here plus some "political" considerations. Is there a coach of the caliber of Saban out there that can be lured to Knoxville? This coaching change must be executed perfectly, while the last two hires were not even close to that level.

Tyler Bray? This tool is talking his way out of the first round.

Dooley did one smart thing this weekend. He didn't linger around the hospital for long.

October 15, 2012 at 12:34 p.m.
ordinaryguy said...

Is Tennessee a progam of enough viability to hire a coach the caliber of Saban?

October 15, 2012 at 12:41 p.m.
jgreeson said...

Sorry gang, work got in the way this morning.

John Proctor —

Yes, it would be a tough spot. but firing your coach is always the stuff of tough spots. And if Dooley returns next year without Bray, Hunter and CP, what are the realistic expectations at that point?

Jomo —

Still think 7-5 will be enough unless the next weeks are 45-0 and 42-3 type of whippings. Not saying it should be or it shouldn't be, just saying that we think 7-5 and a decent showing in the bowl game will be enough for the fourth year.

We were never sold on Sunseri from the get.

Run JMC —

It was a crazy weekend, no doubt. As for Auburn putting all its eggs in one basket, well, that still doesn't explain the lack of QB development.

9er —

The Jeter clip was cool and if you had Florida back, then that's a winner.

UT in the SEC is 4-15 in the SEC under Dooley.

Spy —

We're not anti-BVG. Think dude is making improvements. Just a mess to work out of and the fact that there is zero confidence on the Plains. Nice win for your Eagles.

Did we read that right — GSU didn't attempt a pass?

Mr 962 —

OK. Not sure why someone would think it was wise to jump from 128,000 feet or if dude quoted the world-famous quote "Hold my beer" before jumping.

BlueOval —

Weeds' commentary this morning was excellent. And as an Auburn alum, we hope the only time Bobby Petrino is on campus is as a guest.

Yes, Sunseri looks overmatched. Not sure if that's Year 1 of the 3-4 transition or the fact that he may be overmatched.

OG —

Stop it. Ridgeland gets plenty of love. Plenty.

— 5-at-10

October 15, 2012 at 12:42 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

That's right, 5, even with newfangled uniforms (in honor of military appreciation day), the Eagles dismissed that crazy fad called the forward pass.

October 15, 2012 at 1:06 p.m.
chas9 said...

And the passing total for both teams was 27 yards. Remember, two of the three things that can happen when you pass are bad.

October 15, 2012 at 1:08 p.m.
JonathanMCook said...

Spy wrote-

"That was no upset. Now, it did end a streak of the road team winning every time since 2004. But that was no upset Saturday and the Spy was there to witness it."

I can only imagine the environment at Paul B. Stadium that night. Looked like elbow to elbow sitting. In defense of my comments, I wrote that mainly due to the "Wofford Lovefest" during the weekly SoConversations on Thursday. I would say an estimated 40-50% was talk about how badass Wofford is and their Frankinstein running back. So to me, anything to ix-nay the Terrier Lovefest for a week is an upset in my book.

"Georgia was off. Tech was off. It was a battle of two top 10 FCS teams and a conference rival. No reason there shouldn't have been less than 24K in the house Saturday. Had just under 21K. "

And this is problem why? Just teasing big guy. But I also understand the "What gives?" factor. Unfortunately, it goes back to the whole belief of anything that's not BCS is considered High School 2.0 football. And I believe we've already had that discussion on this forum once.

"With all this push to join the FBS (don't get me started), I checked the attendance figures at Sun Belt conference games Saturday. One game had more than Southern's figure Saturday. The rest were between 15K-18K. Southern even outdrew most of the C-USA games, save for a couple. And this is a step up?"

That is not a major shocker and very ironic you brought up the Sun Belt since UNT plays in that conference and I'm going to see them play LA-Lafeyette. Right now, Louisiana-Monroe, also in the SB Conference, has the most attendence because of their highly regarded reputation as the "occasional" BCS giant killer. And those who they don't beat they typically can go toe to toe with.

Todd wrote-

"I caught the end of the UTC game on ESPN 3. Wow, is that an awful experience or what. HD television has spoiled me. However, I agree with Mr. Cook in that the crowd resembled a high school day game. Not a great turnout for the boys in purple."

Because I live in Dallas which is not exactly a hotbed for FCS televised games, I actually enjoy the ESPN3 broadcasts because they at least feel like I'm watching it on television. has vastly improved the home game broadcasts but you're basically watching a streaming video of what is shown on the jumbotron.

But yeah, if I was Furman I would feel embarassed as I do not believe there a competing FBS school anywhere near their location. Then again, they are a private school so I can go in many different directions with that. At the same time, the UTC crowd I don't think had anyone under 60 in attendence O_o.

October 15, 2012 at 1:48 p.m.
jgreeson said...

FE to the C —

Any one can get got. Any one. This is the BID-ness we have chosen.

And Tyler Bray threw beer bottles out of Round 1, played his way out of Round 2 and is dangling with tweets and misses in Round 3. We think he will test off the charts physically, but dude has cost himself some coin.

OG —

Don't kid yourself. Yes UT is viable enough to land a big fish. That's one of the reasons Petrino would be such a mistake.

Spy —

Did the cheerleaders wear those hoop skirts?

9er —

Those crazy kids and their newfangled hairdos and loud music.

— 5-at-10

October 15, 2012 at 2:14 p.m.
BIspy4 said...


We lose some crowd each week if Georgia has a big home game. But no Mutts, no Jackets, no other college football game of note in the state for fans to be distracted by, not to mention a top-10 battle between conference foes with first place in the league on the line ... it was a very good crowd but really should have been a great crowd.

Wofford is pretty good and well coached and the Breitenstein kid was kept in check. Busted a trap play for 65 yards but his other carries netted less than 40 yards total. Also limped off a couple of times, too.

Swope for Southern is an absolute beast. Just a beast. He was dragging defenders five and 10 yards downfield in the second half.

October 15, 2012 at 2:18 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

5, no, Georgia Southern's terrific cheerleading corps (no Buffy Ciceros or the legendary Julie Kicklighter in the group, but ... I think I'll stop right there), did have camo poms poms. Allegedly. Unis were pretty cool, with a blue digital camo pattern, akin to the unis worn by our service members now.

October 15, 2012 at 2:51 p.m.
JonathanMCook said...

Spy wrote-

"Swope for Southern is an absolute beast. Just a beast. He was dragging defenders five and 10 yards downfield in the second half."

I did actually catch some of that in the broadcast.

October 15, 2012 at 3:49 p.m.
chas9 said...

The UK-Arkansas game was cut short on account of lightning storms, otherwise the score would've been more lopsided. Question for Monday, Tuesday or Friday: I get that for safety reasons games have to be stopped sometimes, and possible resumption depends on conditions. But are there any guidelines as to whether the game is replayed or finished on a later date? How do officials decide if the losing team has a chance to come back? Could they declare a team who's ahead 7-6 in the first quarter the winner?

October 15, 2012 at 3:51 p.m.
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