published Thursday, October 25th, 2012

5-at-10: Dooley rumors, Fab 4 picks, Heavy and non-UT this and that

Hey gang, if you want in the mailbag this week we need it ASAP (work conference on Friday has us scrambling to work ahead).

As for today, well, there's a ton going on but all anyone wants to discuss is Derek Dooley. We finally can understand Jan Brady's frustration with everyone's fascination of her older sister before she finally let it loose with, "Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!" We have "Derek, Derek, Derek," going on right now. In fact, let's empty the view pot.

From the "Talks too much" studios, here we go...

Rumor meltdown mode

The background noise surrounding the University of Tennessee football program right now is deafening. It's overwhelming and everywhere and endless.

It's gotten so far over the top that when we asked our UT beat ace Downtown Patrick Brown about the wildfire reports that Jon Gruden was going to be the Vols next coach, Brown's response was pretty comical.

"I know," he said, the sarcasm tangible through the phone and the 120 miles between Highway 27 and the 865. "I've even heard that it's such a done deal that if the Vols lose at South Carolina, they may actually go ahead and fire Gruden too."

That made us laugh.

Let's break down the situation:

Is Dooley in trouble? Absolutely.

Is UT concerned about the cost of a buy-out? Possibly, but that's not the deciding factor here. If needed UT will find the money. Heck, there's eight figures in the ashtray of Big Jim Haslam's pick-up truck.

Have the Vols talked to Gruden? Maybe. Or maybe not.

Are there any actual UT officals talking? Nope.

Are there a ton of UT people claiming that they know this dude or that gal and they know that UT bigwig X had lunch/dinner/drinks/snacks/nap time/whatever with Gruden or Gruden's people? You bet, and there are too many to count.

Are there a slew of stories, whispers, accounts and second-, third- and even fourth-handed retellings of the same take being bandied about? For sure. (In fact, looking around the chat rooms, some of the folks were just cutting and pasting stuff on different boards and new forums. It became kind of humorous.)

Before we get to the speculation, let us be clear: If Gruden is on board you make the move this morning. Heck, if Gruden's on board, you make the move now. Our No. 1 rule of firing coaches is you best be able to answer the following question: "Who are you going to get that is better?" Gruden is better. Period.

That said, the rest of this stuff — the twitter-mania, the chat room dissertations, the social media machinations — is as solid as three-day-old Jell-O. Period.

And while this rumors are at least more believable than the "Peyton's coming back to be the head coach" last year, they are just that — rumors.

"In fact, we heard from a guy that cleans Haslam's pool that there was an ESPN van in the parking lot of the Haslam compound on Tuesday, and that guy was there for like three hours. And when he came out, someone on the radio said that John Chavis was at the airport and that there was a car with a Denver Broncos tag circling Neyland Stadium.

That's right: Gruden's coming to Knoxville, and he's bringing Chavis back as his DC and Peyton's going to retire and coach quarterbacks. It's true."

It's rumors and dreams and hopes and... desperation.

And that a growing number of Johnny Vols Fans everywhere are willing to sacrifice Saturday at Columbia for even a chance to get Gruden tells us all we need to know that the setting on Dooley's seat has exceeded hot and moved to ludicrous speed. The argument for this crowd — one loss is better than another lost season — has filled our the last 36 hours and the pack-up Dooley messages have been clear, whether Gruden is the pick or not.

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More Dooley

How did it get to this? Not the hot-seat stuff or the uncertainty about the future.

How did it get to this level of angst and anger?

Dooley is a good guy. And we realize that being a good guy is not a) part of the gig or b) part of the problem, but the overarching venom that has become the pro-Dooley pack-up-Dooley debate has grown exponentially in the last two days.

How? And better yet, why? Let's take a step back and take Gruden out of the equation (because as we said before and will say again, if Gruden's on board go get him; in fact that's true for every SEC team not named Alabama, South Carolina and maybe Florida, and if Florida gets Gruden, be the first to bid on Muschamp):

There are defined curves to the orb that is the current state of the Vols football program.

The pro-Dooley bunch sees that Dooley inherited a poo-poo platter that was way worse than even the most anti-Kiffin Johnny Vol Fan could have imagined. The Vols have been better against the league's upper crust this year. Former UT coach and proud UT alum Phillip Fulmer said as much to our ace columnist Mark Wiedmer on Thursday here http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2012/oct/25/Mark-Wiedmer-Phillip-fulmer-still-loves-the-vols/. Fulmer even stressed the need for stability and continuity in the program. And he has a point.

The pack-up-Dooley crowd has numbers galore. You know them — 0-14 against ranked teams, 1-11 in the last 12 SEC games... — we know them, Dooley knows them, heck the 5-at-10's mom knows them (but she's pretty sports savvy). It's not pretty and there's a big chunk of Vols Nation that have had their fill. And no, the mob mentality does not get to rule, but if the guts of a fan base becomes frustrated to the point that attendance is down (it is), emotions are high (they are, and not in a good way) and the possiblity of apathy is on the horizon, well that's trouble.

Most of Johnny Vols Fans fall into one of the two categories above. There's the mixed-up minority in the middle that we covered Wednesday — the group that likes Dooley as a guy and agrees pitch and tone with Fulmer's stated desires of stability and continuity but is decidedly undecided on Dooley's coaching skills. If you think you're in that group, you've already made up your mind and you're in the pack-up-Dooley crowd whether you know it or not. You're just tired of the drama and the losing.

And that's understandable. The losing is magnified by the rolling success of everyone else in the SEC, especially Alabama. That makes the sting and the taunts more painful. That makes the likely coincidence of the Tide beating UT by 31 each of the last three years feel like Nick Saban naming his exact score and saying he's 31 points better no matter who's on the field. That makes it personal — rightly or wrongly.

Amid all the rumor and the speculation and the venom, please know this: As big a Johnny (blank) Fan as we all can be at times — and we can be — and no matter how much we care about our team and their success, we do not have more invested or care more about that team winning than the coaches and players. Period.

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    Georgia running back Isaiah Crowell (1) jumps over a tackle by the Florida defense during an NCAA college football game, Saturday, Oct. 29, 2011 in Jacksonville, Fla.
    Photo by Associated Press /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

Fab 4 (plus one) picks

We've been distracted this week. Work has gotten in the way. Stupid work. The Dooley fiasco has gone from news to noise to an-all-consuming-roar-from-the-masses. Stupid fiascos.

This stuff has meant for the second consecutive week we have spent little time on our picks. We take great pride in our picks — last year we were 41-21-1 during the regular season last year and 57-30-2 after picking a slew of bowl games — and we're a better-than-respectable 27-13-2 so far this year.

Not unlike last week, we're cutting it close on time, so here are the three we know we like, and we'll be back later today with the rest in the comments. Hey, it happens:

La Tech minus-30 at New Mexico State: Yes, you read that line correctly. And yes, this is the first time we've ever picked a 30-point road favorite, especially one that has to travel half way across the country. Wait, why are we picking this one again? Oh yeah, because the Bulldogs score in flashes. Because the Bulldogs beat Idaho 70-28 last week — and it wasn't that close — and that's the same Idaho team that went to New Mexico State and won outright. Because the Bulldogs know they have to turn heads to get back among the Top 25, and you don't turn heads Sunday morning with 42-20 wins.

Western Kentucky minus-7 over Florida International: Trust us. We like the the over too, but believe the Hilltoppers are going to make it happen..

Northern Illinois minus 6.5 at Western Michigan: Huskies vs. Broncos. Live on the interwebs. Remember how we discussed you make picks on games that you like not necessarily picks on games you'd like to watch. Here's another example. Call it a hunch.

More to come...

EDITED THURSDAY AFTERNOON

Clemson minus-13 at Wake Forest: This is the rare game that we have talked ourselves into liking so we can have some action on Thursday night. Go play in the yard.

Ohio State even at Penn State: Bill O'Brien has done a whale of a job at PSU. He's overcome a world of obstacles and held together a program in the face of unprecedented challenges. What he has not done is beat a good offense. Ohio State has a good offense. Another reason to like this game: Ohio State started as a 4-point favorite and a huge amount of money moved the line to even because of the early week concerns on OSU QB Braxton Miller. Miller is fine, but the line has not overly adjusted because there is so much money on PSU. You're welcome.

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    San Francisco Giants' Pablo Sandoval hits a home run during the first inning of Game 1 of baseball's World Series against the Detroit Tigers Wednesday, Oct. 24, 2012, in San Francisco. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)
    Photo by Associated Press /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

Heavy and non-UT this and that

— The SEC media event is today in Birmingham. We're more excited about college hoops this year (and way more excited about the NBA) than normal. That probably has a lot to do with our college football team stinking outloud.

— Major props to the Giants and Pablo Sandoval for a uber-impressive Game 1 win on Wednesday night. Sandoval joined some elite company with three homers in three consecutive at-bats, including the first two off Detroit ace Justin Verlander. That said, we're not watching. Too much other stuff going on. Case in point: If you had the full complement of cable channels tonight and had the choice between the NFL game, the Clemson-Wake Forest football game, and Game 2 of the World Series, whatcha' watching?

— Warren Moon came out earlier this week and said the criticism on Cam Newton was in large part because he's a black quarterback. Uh, no. Hey, we're a big, Big, BIG Cam Newton fan and we believe he's going to be a very good-to-great player in the NFL for the better part of the next decade. And any criticism he gets right now is because he's playing poorly. And his play — and leadership — has been less than good whether he's black, white, green or polka-dotted. And can we please stop with the "he's being criticized because he's a black QB" routine. If that's the case, does Warren Moon think that RGIII is being praised "because he's a black quarterback" so far this season?

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Today's question

We're going multiple parts here today off the main lead in:

What do you think is going to happen this weekend...

— in Columbia, S.C., between the Vols and Gamecocks;

— in Jacksonville, Fla., between the Bulldogs and Gators;

— at Finley Stadium between the Mocs and Eagles;

— and for bonus points, what's going to happen Sunday in Knoxville (choices are a) nothing, BID-ness as usual and b) Dooley gets whacked).

Discuss.

about Jay Greeson...

Jay was named the Sports Editor of the Times Free Press in 2003 and started with the newspaper in May 2002 as the Deputy Sports Editor. He was born and raised in Smyrna, Ga., and graduated from Auburn University before starting his newspaper career in 1997 with the Newnan (Ga.) Times Herald. Stops in Clayton and Henry counties in Georgia and two years as the Sports Editor of the Marietta (Ga.) Daily Journal preceded Jay’s ...

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Livn4life said...

THIS JUST IN...Nick Saban to Cleveland to coach the Browns Jon Gruden to Alabama to coach the Tide Bron Grewden(no relation) to the Vols, no one's heard of him but the name sounds similar. The Source? A man who was struck by ligtning, then abducted by E. T. wannabees and then broke the code on the Mayan Calendar. Sounds solid to me.

October 25, 2012 at 11:13 a.m.
jgreeson said...

Livn(Large)

Brilliant. The rumors that consume folks can be awesome.

What's the biggest — and somewhat most believable rumor — we can start?

Peyton was so last year?

Gruden was so this week?

How about this?

Fulmer is coming back to "Restore the Glory" The slogan appears to be working for UTC and Fulmer can trot out Bill Snyder as an example.

Thoughts?

  • 5-at-10
October 25, 2012 at 11:25 a.m.
BIspy4 said...

26-14 Roosters

19-13 Gators

27-14 Eagles

Nuthin'.

As for the Gruden rumors ... My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Gruden at Litton's last night.

October 25, 2012 at 11:29 a.m.
jgreeson said...

From friend of the show StuckinKent —

See the All Access Kentucky last night on ESPN? The best two minutes of the night was when they had Cal and Joe B. Hall talk about how to play with two bigs, and use ketchup and mustard bottles to talk about it. Very entertaining. It wasn't the most educational thing ever, but listening to two excellent coaches talk about basketball strategy is always thoroughly entertaining. Watching Ryan Harrow get yelled at and then say in a one on one interview something like, "I don't know why he yells at me," had me wondering if Kentucky may have some trouble looming at the point guard spot.

If I had my pick, the Vols would keep Dooley. They've only lost to four of the Top 11 teams in the country. But, like I said, I'm still undecided, because I've watched the previous two seasons as well- both of which I felt could do nothing but leave you undecided. After all, last year was playing almost entirely without two of your biggest offensive threats in Bray and Hunter, and the year before would look completely different if two games that flashed final on the screen had actually been final (LSU and North Carolina). Suddenly, they would have been 8-5 that first year. You say I'm really in the Fire Dooley crowd...perhaps. My real problem is that from the beginning, I didn't think Dooley was the answer because of the circumstances he was hired into. We couldn't really do an all out national search, because Signing Day was right on the horizon and had to be saved, and we just needed someone to come in and right the ship. No one in their right mind that was already at a big school would want to switch schools at that time of year (yes, I know Kiffin did- I did say in their right mind). So Dooley was not a good hire from the beginning. Once he's here though, you've got to give him a chance to succeed. I'm not sure that having an 8-5 year with wins over LSU and North Carolina ripped away, an injury plagued year, and half a season where you lose four games to the Top 11 teams in the country that have a combined one loss (five with a combined three losses after this week) is enough of a chance. I'm not convinced, but the way I felt about the hire from the beginning lingers. So am I in the Fire Dooley crowd really? I guess my only answer is perhaps.

October 25, 2012 at 11:31 a.m.
bigbearzzz said...

OK...knowing that i am a dawgs fan let me say this, Florida every year along the road to blissful SEC Championship Heaven always manages to stub its toe just outside of the big early gates. I'm hopin and praying that this is that weekend!!! Our D has not been the D that we expected at all, and this could be a good breakout weekend for them and shut the Gators down....then again...Gruden could be the next head coach at TN for this week's game at SC and the Vols pull out the upset win....You may call me a dreamer, but im not the only one.

October 25, 2012 at 11:31 a.m.
jgreeson said...

Spy —

Well-played. But did Gruden pass out at 31 Flavors last night?

We need a breaking news......

Det-det-det-det

Ladies and gentlemen, can we please have your attention. We've just been handed an urgent and horrifying news story. We need all of you, to stop what you're doing and listen.

Jon Gruden does a Cannonball.

Stuck —

So what you're saying is there's a chance.

And if you have thought from the beginning that Dooley was a bad hire, then you had a front row seat on the pack-up-Dooley bandwagon. Well, perhaps you were there from the beginning. Perhaps.

Oso —

You're far from the only one.

In fact, we know for certain that there are at least three more dreamers. There's the 5-at-10, With plasticine porters with looking glass ties, and Suddenly someone is there at the turnstile, The girl with kaleidoscope eyes.

We're all in.

— 5-at-10

October 25, 2012 at 11:52 a.m.
JonathanMCook said...

jgreeson wrote-

"Are there a ton of UT people claiming that they know this dude or that gal and they know that UT bigwig X had lunch/dinner/drinks/snacks/nap time/whatever with Gruden or Gruden's people? You bet, and there are too many to count."

And this is EXHIBIT A regarding why wayyy too many people take this stuff wayyyy too seriously. I like the occasional rumor mill as much as anybody but as an educated man from the bowels of 615 McCallie Avenue, I know the following:

The so-called "bigwigs" who actually negotiate these matters are not going to speak about them to that part of the fan base that is known more for hanging out and watching the games at redneck bar X on Cummings Highway than the actual operations of running a multi-million dollar athletic department. When those type of decisions are cemented, its a pretty safe bet they will hold a press conference that will be carried by ESPN and possibly the local affiliates which can be even be sadder.

"You're just tired of the drama and the losing."

And that fits me right there. I'm neither Team Keep Dooley or Pack Dooley as much as "dude, just get your sh(bleep) together man". Tennessee football is strong than the Great Wall of China. A change in coaching staff or program overall is NOT going to have that much of a profound effect on the bottom line as it would in both Moc and Skyhawk country.

"Amid all the rumor and the speculation and the venom, please know this: As big a Johnny (blank) Fan as we all can be at times — and we can be — and no matter how much we care about our team and their success, we do not have more invested or care more about that team winning than the coaches and players. Period."

Amen.

"What do you think is going to happen this weekend..."

The Vols are still licking their chops after the roughhousing with Papa Saben and his boys. Spurrier has the upper hand with loads of experience beating Tennessee in his past life as it were. However, the Vols know this is a must-win situation and will give everything they have.

Vols win it by a field goal.

First Mocs game in five years and I couldn't ask for a better scenerio. My only concern will be the atmosphere and how many so-called "fair weather" fans will actually show up. UTC has to stop the run or at best slow it down. Luckily, we have Gunner, Lott, and Keys to handle this type of workload. JJ Jackson is NOT built like a running back and so the Mocs will need to resort to some clean, complete circus plays for them to run away with this.

Mocs win it by a touchdown.

Not a follower of the cocktail party in Jacksonville so no pick.

October 25, 2012 at 11:56 a.m.
bigbearzzz said...

Here's something off the ol Gruden/college football path that i would like to suggest for the sports crew to follow up on this spring (what..so im in a planner and i think ahead...ur point?!) Have you guys down there noticed the number of Division A softball recruits that have come from our are this past year?! Not only that but im sure there are more to come once spring arrives. Has that number increased from years past? It seems like there have been alot more this year. maybe something for you guys to check up on once this whole fabricated nonsense of a lie about Gruden goes away....i hope it goes away...please dont let it be true.

October 25, 2012 at 12:07 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

UTC can work up all the circus plays it wants to. But if the Mocs don't account for the Manbearpig, Brent Russell, the offense will look like the clown car.

Southern's passing offense isn't much to write home about. With two quarterbacks each running a 4.4 or better, does it matter? This is the deepest, fastest Eagles team to come to Chattanooga in a long time. It has its shortcomings, certainly. The Mocs, though, are going to have to play a great game to beat them.

October 25, 2012 at 12:11 p.m.

Lessee...

Gruden hasn't coached in 4 years.

Gruden hasn't coordinating bringing in one single recruiting class.

The last time Gruden was at UT he was a GA over 25...that's right...25 years ago.

Gruden has never been a head coach or coordinator of a single college team.

Yea..yea...this is the guy here...cheeze..how can anyone not want this big-name fellow? Not to mention the destructive chaos of a mid -season swap he would bring right now.

October 25, 2012 at 12:18 p.m.
jgreeson said...

From StuckinKent —

Your Fulmer rumor is really old too.

I talked to my uncle in June who swore up and down that Fulmer was going to be coaching the Vols next season. He also thought that Cuonzo Martin would get the job at UConn when Calhoun retired and that Bruce Pearl would be brought back to coach the Vols at that point.

Getting the whole gang back together again!

October 25, 2012 at 12:20 p.m.
jgreeson said...

JMC —

The Mocs game hinges on whether the UTC front seven can stand and deliver against the best rushing attack they'll see — South Florida included.

Oso —

Prep softball aces Smiddie and Lindsey Young were talking about this very thing just yesterday. Were you in the office, incognito and such.

Spy —

Concur — about the manbearpig (excellent nickname, by the way) and the rushing attack. That said, as with all great running teams, an early UTC lead would be huge, Huge, HUGE.

RockyTop —

Another newcomer. Feel free to come back anytime, don't cost nothing.

And be careful using measures of logic and caution about everyone's dream date Jonny Gruden.

The fervor right now is off the charts, no?

Stuck —

OK, maybe the Fulmer return has been out there.

Hhhmmmmm (thinking, thinking)...

OK, what about this?

We heard from a guy that knows the baggage handler on the UT private jet that dude was called into work today to pack Dave Hart's suitcase for an emergency trip to Columbia, South Carolina this weekend. Yep, Hart's headed over there to talk to Spurrier and bring the Evil Genius home.

What? Huh? The Vols are playing in Columbia this weekend? Oh. Nevermind.

October 25, 2012 at 12:32 p.m.
fechancellor said...

Ten Ring, this fire Dooley after the 'Cocks' game is ridiculous on on its face. Especially expecting Dooley to coach out the year after getting the boot.

The only reason Dooley gets the pipe Sunday is the high dollar alums have decided if Dooley gets to 7-5 he's safe for next year. Of course, there is no guarantee of 7-5 let alone make it to a bowl game.

Gruden's not likely for a plethora of reasons, one being he's the next face of Madden (Gruden) Football. Amusing as that sounds, Gruden will have to drop his endorsements to come to K-Town.

October 25, 2012 at 1:07 p.m.
Stewwie said...

Great point, fec. There is no reason Dooley should be fired after this Saturday's game. This possibility was brought up on Sport Talk a day or two ago. C'mon fellas.

It's been said numerous times already but the Vols have had a pretty darn tough schedule thus far. People need to lay off of Dooley until the season plays out. The Vols are good enough to win their last 4 plus maybe the bowl game. The bowl game will be an easy win if it's against an ACC team (hello Chick-Fil-A Bowl). That would finish the Vols at 8-5 and a five game winning streak to end the season. Not bad considering the expectations coming into this year. All that said, it would not be worth paying that buyout to get rid of Dooley after this year...especially if no big name coach was on tap to take over immediately.

I couldn't agree more with your assessment of Warren Moon's comment.

Gamecocks over Vols. A bigger question is will Tyler Bray play the full game (or get replaced at some point)?

Gators over Dawgs. Georgia's D played well against Vandy, but that's about it. The Gators should win this one easily.

Mocs over Eagles. The Mocs will win 16-14. GSU's kicker will miss the game-winning kick as time expires.

October 25, 2012 at 1:29 p.m.
Livn4life said...

This also just in: NEXT SPECIAL TEAMS COACH at University of Tennessee: Johnny Majors NOW THAT WOULD BE BIG NEWS!

October 25, 2012 at 1:30 p.m.
Livn4life said...

No joking I wonder how Gruden is responding to all these rumors out there. Would it be fun, annoying, complimentary, or just make you want to do another canonball? That was true about the canonball wasn't it? Uh...well if not, never mind that part.

What IS now going on in the mind of Jon Gruden? "Hey Hon, could you bring me another brewsky? I'm goin' over all these coachin' possibilities and man, that makes a fella awful thirsty. You're the best sweetcakes! "

October 25, 2012 at 1:35 p.m.
dawg747 said...

Ten Cup: I know this ticket taker who works at Neyland (he is a part time university employee by the way) who listens to Dr. B (who is a doctor by the way) and buys coffee at the Pilot Truck Stop(best coffee on the interstate by the way) who said one summer at band camp. Sorry wrong story. That Gruden will be in Arizona on Monday for the Niners-Cardinals game. Maybe you could make a road trip out there for an interview? Games This Weekend: Vols pull the upset because evrybody know the Roosters cannot play in the daytime. Dawgs defense shows up with Gurshall and beats the Gators. Mocs by 3 over the Eagles because Robinson touches the ball more.

October 25, 2012 at 1:45 p.m.
fechancellor said...

Stewie, me thinks UT has made its bed for at least one more year with Dooley. Can't say I'm happy, and it's safe to say the majority of Vol fans aren't either. It's frustrating watch the crap that's piled up in K-Town over a period of six years, not just four.

Ten Ring, it was suggested to me by a friend that Patrino is Auburn's immediate hire. Continuing, he said, "I bet Patrino brings the girl friend (Ha, Ha)." To this FEC said, "Yep, you best bring your own women if you're going to Auburn."

October 25, 2012 at 1:52 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

Stewwie,

He probably will. He probably will.

October 25, 2012 at 1:54 p.m.
jomo11 said...

Gruden or no Gruden, Dooley is done. You can book that. I have been saying that since after the Florida game. The BIG $$$ people at UTK are not going to let him come back. Sure the buyout is a big number, but the BIG $$$ people, particularly Charlie Ergen are embarressed on the state of UTK football and are going to foot the bill. Also, Dave Hart and Dooley had "words" about Dooley throwing players "under the bus", there is no one of influence in Dooley's corner at UTK. . . .there will be a full court press on Gruden, might work , might not, but either way Dooley is finished and will not coach UTK in 2013

October 25, 2012 at 2:15 p.m.
jgreeson said...

FE to the C —

It would take huge coin to get Gruden, no doubt. But Tennessee has huge coin. And the only way Dooley gets got this weekend is if they feel really good about Gruden coming to town.

As for the Auburn crack, well, make fun of our football team all you want this year. But the only way you can joke about Auburn's co-eds is if you haven't been to Auburn. Trust us.

Spy —

Closer we get the more we think Saturday may be a whale of a football game between the Eagles and the Moc-a-noogans. We're stoked.

Jomo —

That's a really good point that it seems Dooley doesn't have a whole lot of support in the 865 right now.

If the Vols win out, and go 9-4, you still think Dooley gets run? What about 8-5 with a nice bowl win?

We're not as certain as you are. Not saying it won't happen, but unless Dave Hart has a sure-fire upgrade, it's going to be tough to run off 8-5 for another scratch-off lottery ticket.

— 5-at-10

Livn(Large) —

Crud. You swiped our next rumor. Majors is going to be the special teams coach, and the secondary coach will be.....

Pat Summitt. Yep, heard from a guy that knows Tyler Summitt's vet's best friend. Book it.

As for the feeling of Gruden being mentioned for every opening, well, wouldn't it be like in seventh grade when you heard the hot girl liked you. Only times about $5-6 million.

Stewwie —

Have a hard time arguing your Dooley reasoning. That said, if Gruden's on board you do it before dinner time tonight.

Great question about whether Bray gets pulled or not. We may explore that later.

Dawg —

Well played. And we know that same ticket taker, and you're 100 percent right about the Pilot coffee. (Although the QT in metro Atlanta makes a nice cup of Joe too.)

October 25, 2012 at 2:54 p.m.
bigbearzzz said...

but....the hot girl in 7th grade did like me.....and crap, my covers blown as the oversized plant in the corner of the office. No really, glad to know im not the only one to notice that and that ur staff is already on it....true reflection of the quality leadership in pla....buhahahaha....couldnt even finish the sentence without laughing!

October 25, 2012 at 3:36 p.m.
jgreeson said...

From friend of the show Shew

Of course I'm watching the event that brought us Morris-Smoltz-Puckett; the '69 Mets and Swoboda's catch; Buckner's E-3; Willie's catch and throw in '54; Ruth's called shot; Gibson's pinch "I don't believe what I just saw" homer; Reggie's three; Babe's three, twice; Pujol's three; Gibson's Ks; the Braves behind Glavine and Justice in '95; Larsen's perfecto; Maz's and Carter's walkoffs and a thousand others that baseball fans can recite off the tops of their heads. Conversely, that other sport's main go with the comic book name . . . I defy you to come up with 10 truly memorable moments and I'll spot you Janet Jackson's breasts as two. Of course, if great moments and memories aren't your thing, watch games borne of memorized mechanical sameness, fleeting and gone.

October 25, 2012 at 3:42 p.m.
jomo11 said...

Jay- you may be right, but the probablity that a coach who has had a below .500 record for 6 years AND loses 5 straight games, regardless of who he plays. doesn't usually catch fire and win 5 games in row. In fact in 6 years as a head coach Dooley has NEVER won 5 games in a row. So the odds, regardless who they play are VERY long

October 25, 2012 at 3:42 p.m.
JonathanMCook said...

One last thing before everyone dispurses, I will be on the road with no access to online media (a LOT safer that way). By the time tomorrow's 5 at 10 rolls around, I should be somewhere between Shrieveport and Warhawk country (Monroe for those of you scratching your heads). Looking forward to some Krystals.

October 25, 2012 at 4:21 p.m.
jgreeson said...

Oso —

It's the least we can do. And yes, that girl did like you. She passed us a note in study hall.

Shew —

Good to hear from you.

Ah yes, the classics of baseball. And other than Pujols, which of those have happened in the last 10-plus years?

And if baseball are the classics — and we respect the classics, mind you — are you telling me you'd rather read Moby Dick than the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. Hey Mody Dick has a litany of classic lines and scenes and writing. The other is fun as all get out. Know what we mean Verne?

Jomo —

No he hasn't won five in a row, but November is completely doable, which then puts a lot riding on the bowl game. Has any coach ever gone into a bowl game needing a win to secure his gig? That's some pressure for the Music City Bowl, huh?

JMC —

Drive safe.

— 5-at-10

October 25, 2012 at 4:32 p.m.
scipio said...

In 11 years as a NFL head coach Jon Gruden's wining percentage was 54% with five seasons winning 50% or less. At the end of the '08 season Tampa fired him. He hasn't has a paid coaching job since. Be careful what you wish for, TN fans.
Odds are great that there much better prospects available. Gruden's talent is in broadcasting.

October 27, 2012 at 3:49 a.m.
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