published Sunday, September 16th, 2012

Faster

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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wrdrennan said...

That's excellent.

September 16, 2012 at 1:32 a.m.
MasterBlaster said...

Freeloading Republicans. They're worthless anymore, a pox on America's house. Do nothing on jobs, insist on ruling over women's vaginae, and block every single piece of common sense legislation that comes across their desks. Stick a fork in the Republican party, it's done as dinner in America!

September 16, 2012 at 4:13 a.m.
EaTn said...

Early in President Obama's term, the leaders in Congress of the GOP publicly stated their number one goal was to make Obama a one term president. Since then their lack of cooperation and progress has revolved around this statement; the results have been foot dragging and blocking every Obama effort in resolving this country's economic problems. It's time to replace these do nothing folks with some action folks to help get our economy back on solid ground.

September 16, 2012 at 5 a.m.
fairmon said...

Which candidate has the best plan for increasing the demand for American made products? Which candidate has the best plan for additional wealth creating jobs in the manufacturing, mining, fishing or farming sectors? Which candidate has a plan that will entice Americans to buy American made products? Will additional tax reductions and stimulus money be used to buy imported products as in the past thus stimulating the economy of the producing nation? Obama's hope and change means here is a little change from your dollar let's hope things work out for you. Romney's tax cuts for everyone means more debt once he figures out the money is being spent on imports and creating zero American jobs.

Would it be unreasonable to require imported products be produced with the same safety, health, environmental and labor regulations as those produced in the U.S.?

Would it be unreasonable to require that imported manufactured products have an equal number produced in the U.S.?

September 16, 2012 at 6:58 a.m.
tifosi said...

Romney's tax cuts??? His fuzzy math to reduce the deficit is like that of a two-year old. It just doesn't add up.

September 16, 2012 at 7:07 a.m.
fairmon said...

What are the inaccuracies of this sentence attributed to Dr. Barbara Bellar a candidate for the Illinois state senate.

let me get this straight. This is a long sentence. We’re going to be gifted with a health-care plan that we’re forced to purchase and fined if we don’t, which purportedly covers at least 10 million more people without adding a single doctor but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that didn't read it but exempted themselves from it, and signed by a President who smokes, with funding administered by a Treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, for which we will be taxed for four years before any benefits take effect, by a government that has already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare, all to be overseen by a Surgeon General who is obese and finally, financed by a country that’s broke.

Appears to be a rather concise and accurate summary?

September 16, 2012 at 7:16 a.m.
fairmon said...

tifosi said.....

His fuzzy math to reduce the deficit is like that of a two-year old. It just doesn't add up.

This could apply to either candidate.

September 16, 2012 at 7:22 a.m.
dougmusn said...

Gov. Romney made A LOT of money at Bain by seeking out opportune companies to control, saddle with increased debt and strip down. Many were successes but many were not. These were the ones outsourced or pushed out of business. The US economy is not a corporation or even a giant conglomerate. Unless, of course, you might be ready to sacrifice some states to the "creative destruction" that marks capitalism.

Connecticut? Utah? Rhode Island?

September 16, 2012 at 7:25 a.m.
GreenKepi said...

"Bennett"...a 'one-tracked' mind.

September 16, 2012 at 7:35 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Yes, “NO, WE CAN'T“ has become the Republican theme song. No doubt about it:

No, we can’t do anything to help the economy.

No, we can’t let women make their own health decisions.

No, we can’t help the patient get the health care they need - unless they're rich.

No, we can’t help you with college – you disenchanted youth.

No, we can’t do anything to help save the auto industry.

No, we can't give you the details of the Ryan/Romney budget.

http://www.samefacts.com/2012/09/campaigns/campaign-2012/no-we-cant/

September 16, 2012 at 7:35 a.m.
fairmon said...

dougmusn said...

The US economy is not a corporation or even a giant conglomerate.

Would you agree the U.S. economy is a giant mess that slogans and philosophy won't fix. It will take a bold and honest congress with a vision past the next election. We are not likely to have that.

September 16, 2012 at 7:42 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

tifosi: Obama's plan to "cut the deficit in half" worked wonderfully! Another four years and he'll have it down to zero!

September 16, 2012 at 7:46 a.m.
whatsthefuss said...

Sounds like the Dems are getting nervous at the thought of losing their great ruling leader?

Perhaps instead of continuing your abusive tactics you could possibly make a case for why we Americans should consider another 4 years with the same group directing our future. And please, Bush was so 4 years ago and the first 2 years of Obama's super majority, what did they accomplish?

As to the economy not being a corporation? With 1 of every 7 employed Americans working for the government it appears to be a friends & family plan closer resembling a mafia family back in the day. I wonder what ever happened to that nice man from Chicago???

September 16, 2012 at 7:55 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

FOUR MORE YEARS!!! 4 more years of what?? You dems really want 4 more years of the Community Organizer? Be real, folks. Time to dump the Choom man.

September 16, 2012 at 8:08 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

“NO, WE CAN'T” – # 1 tune on the Republican music chart continued:

NO, we can’t let you choose your own religious beliefs.

NO, we can’t let you vote - unless you have a Republican Voter ID.

NO, we can’t do anything about global warming - because old King Coal says so.

NO, we can’t give you the details of Ryan/Romney Budget – there are none.

NO, we can’t tax the wealthy – If we did, our campaign coffers would be empty.

[Inspired by]:

http://www.samefacts.com/2012/09/campaigns/campaign-2012/no-we-cant/

September 16, 2012 at 8:30 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Keep repeating yourself mountain oyster, everything in that post is amazingly ridiculous.

Rocky Mountain oysters:

Rocky Mountain oysters are bull calf testicles used for human consumption. Sometimes pig or sheep testicles are used. They are often deep-fried after being peeled, coated in flour, pepper and salt, and sometimes pounded flat. This delicacy is most often served as an appetizer[1] with a cocktail sauce dip.

September 16, 2012 at 8:37 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

I'd give a pass on the voter I.D. law if the democrats agree to a voter I.Q. law. They'd never win another election.

September 16, 2012 at 8:41 a.m.
WHS1970 said...

Clay nailed this one.

September 16, 2012 at 8:42 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

So it's two years of a republican controlled house that's stalling the economy. That's laughable clay! Obama had two years to do what he wanted to do. Instead of focusing on the economy, he focused on government run healthcare. And now it's the republicans fault...HAHAHA!!! WHAT A STRETCH!!

The economy isn't in the tank because Obama's policies failed, it's in the tank because Obama's policies succeeded. And like little bratty children, the democrats never take blame for anything. It's always "someone else's fault".

September 16, 2012 at 8:56 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

"NO, WE CAN'T” – # 1 tune on the Repulican music chart continued:

NO, we can’t do anything about jobs - the economy might improve.

NO, we can’t allow a rape victim to choose - the rape may be illegitimate.

NO, we can’t support education – the level of stupidity might shrink.

NO, we can’t support unions – America’s standard of living might improve.

NO, we can’t help feed the poor - greedy billionaires like Romney might suffer.

[Inspired by]:

http://www.samefacts.com/2012/09/campaigns/campaign-2012/no-we-cant/

September 16, 2012 at 9:01 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Laurel, you been smoking spice this early? Sheesh.

September 16, 2012 at 9:11 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Gasoline Prices More than Double Under Obama: $1.84 to $3.85.

Maybe that's why Obama's not using a diesel electric locomotive to push the economy. He's only depicted here as using a hand pusher...sounds about right.

September 16, 2012 at 9:11 a.m.
conservative said...

EaTn, regarding your "It's time to replace these do nothing folks with some action folks to help get our economy back on solid ground"

Well your wish has alreaday starting to happen :

In the last election the Demoncrats lost 6 seats in the Senate, over 60 house seats,6 governorships and over 680 seats in state legislatures so it is quite obvious America had that in mind when they voted.

September 16, 2012 at 9:14 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Jack, go look at the photo at the top of the Drudge report this morning. And Obama thought everybody loved him.

It's funny how the democrats think that Muslims only hate republicans. NEWSFLASH! They hate all of us, even alpo and easy. Yes, Mountain oyster included.

September 16, 2012 at 9:15 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Toes: Choom man just needs to dialogue more with them.

September 16, 2012 at 9:38 a.m.
alprova said...

Harp3339 asked: "Appears to be a rather concise and accurate summary?"

Not even close.

1.) There are many people in school to become new doctors as we revisit this issue and the 10 million who are currently uninsured, if need be, wind up in very expensive emergency rooms which has a detrimental effect on our current system of health care.

2.) The hiring of 16,000 IRS agents to administer any aspect of ObamaCare is purely a myth.

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/03/irs-expansion/

3.) After January 1, 2014, all newly hired Federal employees will only be offered pooled plans that are outlined in H.R. 3090, and by January 1, 2019, every Federal employee will have made the transformation to those plans as well.

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/01/congress-exempt-from-health-bill/

4.) I fail to see what the President's smoking has to do with a thing.

5.) Timothy Geithner's mistake was found during a routine audit of his taxes in 2006. Many people are found to have made errors during IRS audits. He paid what was owed, plus interest, without penalties assessed, because the IRS agreed that the mistake was not an act of tax fraud.

6.) What does the weight of the Surgeon General have to do with a thing?

7.) And finally, the CBO has went on record stating that ObamaCare will save the taxpayers of this nation about $1 trillion from 2013-2022.

http://www.pensitoreview.com/2012/07/24/be-careful-what-you-ask-for-cbo-tells-boehner-that-obamacare-saves-money-and-its-repeal-would-cost-more/

That doesn't leave very much at all for DR. Barbara Bellar to lie about.

September 16, 2012 at 9:43 a.m.
dude_abides said...

toes... thanks for the information on mountain oysters! More of us should share our recipes in this forum. Amazing what you "bring to the table." In your experience, are all animal testicles edible? Keep us posted on your quest for genitalia cuisine.

September 16, 2012 at 9:51 a.m.
alprova said...

TOES02800 wrote: "I'd give a pass on the voter I.D. law if the democrats agree to a voter I.Q. law. They'd never win another election."

If the Republican cheerleaders in this forum are any indication of a group that you consider to be examples of a higher IQ, and if any right to vote hinged on such a requirement, then I'm not sure that there are many of you, including yourself, who would be allowed to cast a vote.

Keep your silly voter I.D. laws. They are going to fail miserably anyway. There's enough people out there working to insure that those speed bumps do not prevent people from getting to the polls and exercizing their right to vote.

September 16, 2012 at 10:01 a.m.
fairmon said...

An interesting tid bit or aside may be to see how much Nancy Pelosi's husband spent to assure her re-election. Can't blame him, can you imagine having to be around her full time?

September 16, 2012 at 10:02 a.m.
dude_abides said...

Can't remember how many days til the election. Where's mymy when you need it? mymy always keeps us updated, but it must be sleeping in today.

So, if Obama rises 5 points in the polls, it's a slaughter. If Romney rises 5 points in the polls, it's a dead heat.

What about those stolen tax records? Somebody got a big payday, didn't they? $1 million is nothing to Mitt Ransomney.

September 16, 2012 at 10:03 a.m.
mymy said...

50 Days to Go!

It is still the economy/jobs/foreign policy/direction of country and National Security here and abroad.

Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock

Today is another day for the Dims to show how stupid they are. LOL Defending the undefinable!

“The turmoil in the Middle East, the Federal Reserve's decision to further devalue the U.S. dollar through a third round of "quantitative easing" (QE3), and rising oil prices are combining to create a toxic economic brew that could send the global economy into recession.………………………………….”

……………….”Whether Mr. Obama can duct tape the looming economic collapse long enough to win reelection remains to be seen. “

“However, in some ways, Mr. Obama should be claiming credit. As Obama Energy Secretary Steven Chu told the Wall Street Journal back in 2008, the goal all along has been to explode U.S. gas prices to the $6 to $8 a gallon prices found in Europe. "Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe," Mr. Chu said.”

“Through its mismanagement of the Middle East crisis and endless rounds of "quantitative easing" (and the concomitant currency devaluation such "stimulus" brings), the Obama Administration has almost reached its goal of European-style gas prices.”

“On Friday, a gallon of regular gas in the Bronx cost nearly $5 a gallon.”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/09/15/Middle-East-Turmoil-And-Soaring-Oil-Prices-May-Spark-Global-Recession

September 16, 2012 at 10:08 a.m.
fairmon said...

mountainlaurel..

A lot more of saying no in the past would have prevented the mess the economy is in today. You may be a good at selling, don't take no for an answer whether they need it or can afford or not. I bet you give a quick no if somebody wants some of yours?

September 16, 2012 at 10:08 a.m.
alprova said...

TOES02800 wrote: "Gasoline Prices More than Double Under Obama: $1.84 to $3.85."

And you cite this, why? Are you alluding that this is the President's fault?

With your elevated IQ and all, I'm sure you will have no problem at all in illustrating just how the President is responsible for the current price of gasoline.

Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock...

Sorry mymy, I know that this is part of your schtick, but it's very relevant, because I expect the clock to make many tick tocks before Mr. IQ responds, if he ever does.

September 16, 2012 at 10:11 a.m.
dude_abides said...

harp3339, the independent thinker. Right down the middle, ole harp. Fun when the B/S pretense goes away. harp has many liberal leanings, just not ever the present subject, seemingly.

September 16, 2012 at 10:12 a.m.
fairmon said...

The middle east...is it still spring time? I would think Obama would get the new leaders from the Muslim brotherhood together and have them all hold hands and put a stop to the violence and hating of America. Did he not say in 2008 we needed to have a dialogue with them and something about common ground? Perhaps after the election when he has more options he will do that.

September 16, 2012 at 10:17 a.m.
fairmon said...

Is the imbalance in the toon caused by the weight of all the bills Harry Reid won't let the senate vote on?

September 16, 2012 at 10:28 a.m.
dude_abides said...

Thank God you dupes couldn't reelect Bush to a 3rd term, we'd be declaring war on Mauritania, or somewhere, by now.

September 16, 2012 at 10:32 a.m.
mymy said...

harp3339: They seem to forget or don't know! Many Democrats in Congress would vote for some of the Repubs bills sent to them. So, Harry sits on them.

September 16, 2012 at 10:35 a.m.
alprova said...

TOES02800 wrote: "It's funny how the democrats think that Muslims only hate republicans."

On what do you base that uttering of stupidity upon?

"NEWSFLASH! They hate all of us, even alpo and easy. Yes, Mountain oyster included."

No thanks at all to the Republican spawned notion that the United States military has no better use than to invade and to take sides in the affairs of several sovereign nations, killing hundreds of thousands, dismissed as nothing more than casualties of war.

The latest conflict our Military was used for was to settle an old score because someone came close to assassinating someone's long-time Republican daddy.

And now, while people are whining about gasoline and food prices and the economy in general, and still more are worried about the national debt, not to mention those who are upset that people would dare protest against America because Google refuses to pull a vile, stupid and insulting video that once would have violated their own policies but for some reason now defends, there are cheerleaders just itching for this nation to assist Israel to open another can of worms in the Middle-East by bombing Iran.

Does the concept of cause and effect ever cross some people's minds? Hell is going welcome many new residents in the years to come.

September 16, 2012 at 10:44 a.m.
MTJohn said...

Isn't it curious that the party of "responsibility" has no interest in being accountable to the consequences of their own bad behavior.

September 16, 2012 at 10:49 a.m.
alprova said...

mymy wrote: "They seem to forget or don't know! Many Democrats in Congress would vote for some of the Repubs bills sent to them. So, Harry sits on them."

Is that so? Well since you seem to be in the know, I'm sure you will have no problem citing the bills that the Republican dominated House sent to the Senate, that Mr. Reid is sitting on, that would have magically saved the nation.

Tick tock, tick tock...

September 16, 2012 at 10:50 a.m.
alprova said...

Harp3339 wrote: "Is the imbalance in the toon caused by the weight of all the bills Harry Reid won't let the senate vote on?"

Same challenge. Cite them and let's discuss the reasons behind any objection by Harry Reid to bring them to the floor.

September 16, 2012 at 10:55 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Why won't the senate pass a budget of their own alpo?

September 16, 2012 at 11:12 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Why won't the senate pass a budget of their own alpo?

September 16, 2012 at 11:12 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Why won't the senate pass a budget of their own alpo?

September 16, 2012 at 11:12 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Why won't the senate pass a budget of their own alpo?

Stumped: Axelrod Can't Explain Why Senate Dems Won't Pass A Budget

September 16, 2012 at 11:18 a.m.
ricardo said...

Here's what the House has been busy working on. (It's the economy stupid.)

H.R. 3803: District of Columbia Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act Sponsor: Rep. Trent Franks [R-AZ2] Introduced: Jan 23, 2012 Failed Under Suspension: Jul 31, 2012

H.R. 3541: Prenatal Nondiscrimination Act (PRENDA) of 2012 Sponsor: Rep. Trent Franks [R-AZ2] Introduced: Dec 01, 2011 Failed Under Suspension: May 31, 2012

H.R. 2299: Child Interstate Abortion Notification Act Sponsor: Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen [R-FL18] Introduced: Jun 22, 2011 Reported by Committee: Mar 27, 2012

H.R. 358: Protect Life Act Sponsor: Rep. Joseph Pitts [R-PA16] Introduced: Jan 20, 2011 Passed House: Oct 13, 2011

H.R. 2583: Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Year 2012 Sponsor: Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen [R-FL18] Introduced: Jul 19, 2011 Reported by Committee: Jul 21, 2011

H.R. 3: No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act Sponsor: Rep. Christopher “Chris” Smith [R-NJ4] Introduced: Jan 20, 2011 Passed House: May 04, 2011

H.R. 1232: To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to eliminate certain tax benefits relating to abortion. Sponsor: Rep. David “Dave” Camp [R-MI4] Introduced: Mar 29, 2011 Reported by Committee: Mar 31, 2011

H.R. 6173: PRO-LIFE Act Sponsor: Rep. Randy Neugebauer [R-TX19] Introduced: Jul 24, 2012 Referred to Committee: Jul 24, 2012

September 16, 2012 at 11:20 a.m.
patriot1 said...

Alpo before you say the GOP is blocking the budget process in the Senate, it takes only 51 votes to move that process forward. Harry Reid (D)is the majority leader in the Senate which means he/they are in control.

September 16, 2012 at 11:22 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Stumped Again: WH Has No Answer For Why Senate Dems Won't Write A Budget

September 16, 2012 at 11:24 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Jack_Dennis said: “You been smoking spice this early?”

Sorry, to disappoint you, Jack. I’m not the type, but I suspect you may be. Am I right?

As for the Republicans’ favorite tune, “No, We Can’t,” you know it’s true. Why can’t you admit it? Clearly, the only thing this current batch of Republican politicians wants to do is beat up on President Barack Obama. When it comes to everything else, they sound like a broken record:

NO, we can’t support Head Start – poor kids deserve to be left behind.

NO, we can’t support equal pay for women - they might make a decent wage.

NO, we can’t regulate Wall Street – where would all the criminals go?

NO, we can’t support a Social Security System – there’s no money in it for us.

NO, we can’t support Obamacare – only the wealthy deserve to be healthy.

[Inspired by]

http://www.samefacts.com/2012/09/campaigns/campaign-2012/no-we-cant/

September 16, 2012 at 11:28 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Senate_GOPs: RT @BudgetGOP: On this day in history: Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner tells Americans: "Welcome to the Recovery." http://t.co/UdhOh0wF

September 16, 2012 at 11:30 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

laurel: No, me no toke. Your no, no, no ditty is the most absurd bunch of generalizations since the bogus war on women. You appear to be a one-trick ideologue. Open your eyes, sis.

September 16, 2012 at 11:36 a.m.

What a joke! To associate Obama with hard work is ridiculous. He's more interested in being on late night talk shows and playing golf than doing his job. He's mailing it in. Throw the bum out!

September 16, 2012 at 11:42 a.m.
alprova said...

Guess what folks? The House hasn't brought the President's budget to the floor for a vote this year either.

September 16, 2012 at 11:44 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Anything the GOP can do to slow down Obama is fine by me. I was very disappointed to see that they voted to fund Obamacare in the house last week. This is a perfect example of how they grandstand on the meaningless votes (like the house vote to repeal Obamacare) and then roll over when they actually have a chance to do something about it. Disgusting.

For those of you against tax cuts or at least against holding taxes, really, how much of your life do you want all of the various levels of government to control by force with all of their ineptitude? The progressives in both parties are systematically taking over more of our lives every year and nothing good is coming of it. More inefficiency, less freedom, more misery.

If your great ideas were really so great you could make participation in every program voluntary and each of them would survive just fine. In fact, people would run from them in droves in the face of competition from the free market, and you know it. Otherwise you would not insist on all of them having mandatory participation.

September 16, 2012 at 11:48 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

The progressives should be celebrating the GOP. They play the bad cop for you and provide cover for the failures of big government. We need real alternatives.

September 16, 2012 at 11:50 a.m.
hambone said...

Harp3339 ; the inbalance in the cartoon is caused by HOT AIR, and the fact that only one is pulling the LOAD!

September 16, 2012 at 11:51 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

alprova said... "Guess what folks? The House hasn't brought the President's budget to the floor for a vote this year either."

Who cares. No one would vote for the piece of dog squeeze. I don't seem to recall you screaming obstructionism over democrat members of Congress who earlier voted unanimously against the amateurs horrible excuse for a budget.

September 16, 2012 at 11:54 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Ambassadors being murdered, embassies being burned, ex-navy seals dying, anti-American stampedes all across the globe. Where's Obama? He's campaigning and happy to finally have outraised Romney. What a worthless piece of crap this guy is. He has absolutely NO CLUE what's happening. Fuc#ing fraud. Obama's ruining this country and you liberals are complete morons for supporting his punk ass.

September 16, 2012 at 12:07 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

BRP: Make that The Anointed Amateur. Reverence, please.

September 16, 2012 at 12:07 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

The rest of the world sees Obama's failures more clearly. They are not burdened with the propaganda of the US MSM.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/german-press-review-on-middle-east-violence-against-us-embassies-a-855835.html

September 16, 2012 at 12:12 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Harp3339 said: “A lot more of saying no in the past would have prevented the mess the economy is in today.”

Indeed, what you say is true, especially in 2003 when Bush decided to cut taxes and invade Iraq. It was the first time in American history the government cut taxes as it went to war. Our economy still hasn’t recovered, but some want more wars and more tax cuts for the wealthy.

Harp said: “You may be a good at selling, don't take no for an answer whether they need it or can afford or not. I bet you give a quick no if somebody wants some of yours?”

No, I have a conscience so I suspect I wouldn’t be good in sales, Harp3339. I will leave sales to guys like you. As for the rest of your comment, it’s clear from your posts that I’m far more generous than you, and unlike greedy men like Romney, I don’t try to weasel out of paying my fair share of taxes and I don't hide my money in Switzerland and the Cayman Islands.

September 16, 2012 at 12:13 p.m.
EaTn said...

conservative said...

EaTn, regarding your "It's time to replace these do nothing folks with some action folks to help get our economy back on solid ground"

Well your wish has alreaday starting to happen :"

I hope you aren't seriously thinking in terms of taking us back to the Bush and GOP congress era, two wars and five trillion dollar debt while cutting wealthy taxes.

September 16, 2012 at 12:21 p.m.
ricardo said...

Let's not confuse the minority extremist thug mob in Benghazi with the reasonable lawful government in Libya.

Let's not confuse the minority teabagger extremist thug mob with the reasonable lawful people in the US.

September 16, 2012 at 12:28 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Tell us how "greedy" Romney is. If you feel that you're not paying enough in taxes mountainoyster, by all means, feel free to cut a check to the government. As for Romney putting money in overseas accounts, there's nothing illegal about it. I'd say he's smart for doing it. Only a stupid ass wouldn't try to protect his money. He's not "hiding" his money anywhere. He's already said he doesn't agree with the "tax the rich" mantra you liberals love so much. So why not try to avoid it legally?

Romney has created more jobs and given more to charity than any one of your liberal "heroes" have. The teachers in Chicago, now there's real greed for you.

September 16, 2012 at 12:31 p.m.
Reardon said...

Another hack cartoon -- where's Bernanke the dope pusher to the rescue?

Even if Bennett knew anything about monetary policy...

September 16, 2012 at 12:32 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Ea Tn forgets Obama's $10 trillion of debt added in just four years .

September 16, 2012 at 12:33 p.m.
ricardo said...

Hey Toecheese, if you feel that you're paying too much in taxes, feel free to move to another country. Take the rest of your scumbag friends with you.

September 16, 2012 at 12:33 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Hey ricardo the retardo. Go fuc# yourself. And take the rest of your wetback friends with you. Freakin' dirt monkey. I hear the Rio Grande water is nice this time of year.

September 16, 2012 at 12:37 p.m.
alprova said...

TOES02800 wrote: "Who cares. No one would vote for the piece of dog squeeze. I don't seem to recall you screaming obstructionism over democrat members of Congress who earlier voted unanimously against the amateurs horrible excuse for a budget."

The President's true budget has never been brought to the floor of either House of Congress. It sat on a desk somewhere while two Republicans introduced 67 page booklets titled "The President's Budget" were waved and introduced on both floors of Congress.

Of course they were all unanimously voted down.

The fact is that there is little need for Congress to approve or reject any budget that the President sends to the House of Representatives.

Appropriation bills are passed and used to determine what is spent by Congress, despite any budget on record, and that has been the case since the turn of the last century.

This crap about the Senate not passing budget resolutions is nothing more than political nonsense, and some of you out there have fallen for it hook, line, and sinker.

Do you have sore lips as well as tired arms that come with all that wing flapping?

September 16, 2012 at 12:38 p.m.
ricardo said...

Take a deep breath, Toecheese. I know it's tough when your Republican presidential nominee is such a bad choice. Don't forget to hold your nose when you cast your ballot.

September 16, 2012 at 12:42 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Hey alpo, check out BlueRidgePatriot at 11:54. Has the senate passed a budget then alpo? I must have missed it. Maybe you can post it for me as I'm sure you have a link of the senate passing a budget.

Tick tock tick tock...

September 16, 2012 at 12:45 p.m.
ricardo said...

alprova said... "Do you have sore lips as well as tired arms that come with all that wing flapping?"

Toecheese definitely has sore lips.

September 16, 2012 at 12:47 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

You get your amnesty papers yet retardo? I'm sure that greencard's getting a little tattered.

September 16, 2012 at 12:47 p.m.
alprova said...

TOES 02800 wrote: "Ambassadors being murdered, embassies being burned, ex-navy seals dying, anti-American stampedes all across the globe. Where's Obama? He's campaigning and happy to finally have outraised Romney. What a worthless piece of crap this guy is. He has absolutely NO CLUE what's happening. Fuc#ing fraud. Obama's ruining this country and you liberals are complete morons for supporting his punk ass."

Contrary to your silly opinions, the President is doing his job in regard to all those things you mention, no matter what he is doing or wherever he is.

You do realize that there are subordinates in charge of the situation at all times, who are in constant communication with the President.

Flap those wings some more. You'll never move enough air to lift your feet off the ground.

And despite your opinion that I am a moron, I do indeed support our President, I will continue to do so, despite anything you conjure up in that diminutive brain in your cranial cavity.

September 16, 2012 at 12:48 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Your mother likes my lips retardo. She needs to shave them legs though. Like a hairy tortilla chip.

September 16, 2012 at 12:51 p.m.
ricardo said...

Your teabagger friends tell us you need to use more moisturizer on your lips, Toecheese.

September 16, 2012 at 12:54 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Alpo, I'm sure our allies in the world are thinking "It's OK, Obama might not care, but he has subordinates who are in constant communication with him at all times". No sale.

September 16, 2012 at 12:55 p.m.
ricardo said...

Take a deep breath, Toecheese. I know it's tough when your Republican presidential nominee is such a bad choice. Don't forget to hold your nose when you cast your ballot.

Truth hurts, don't it?

September 16, 2012 at 12:56 p.m.
miraweb said...

The problem is Romney's economic proposals are the fiscal equivalent of texting while driving.

There is simply no math that can gets us to where we need to be by keeping the Bush tax cuts, holding military spending at wartime levels, and ignoring the housing market depression.

I did find it odd that Romney is filing his 2011 tax returns on October 15.

Who plans their own October Surprise in the middle of the presidential election? I guess there really is one thing Mitt cares about more than politics.

mymy: 29 days!

September 16, 2012 at 12:56 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Just ask your mother retardo. just ask your mother. And shouldn't you be out shi#ting on cop cars by now? It's almost 1 o'clock!

September 16, 2012 at 12:57 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

You wouldn't know the truth if it slapped you in your face.

September 16, 2012 at 12:59 p.m.
alprova said...

mymy nearly had a coronary event with: "Voter Fraud: The Dems secret weapon. One got caught recently!"

Here ya go Ma'am: A Republican politician convicted of six counts;

http://www.salon.com/2012/02/27/vote_fraud_retires_shameless_gop_official/

September 16, 2012 at 1 p.m.
alprova said...

YOES02800 wrote: "Ea Tn forgets Obama's $10 trillion of debt added in just four years ."

Sir, do yourself a favor and factcheck your figure. It's woefully incorrect.

September 16, 2012 at 1:06 p.m.
alprova said...

YOES02800 wrote: "Ea Tn forgets Obama's $10 trillion of debt added in just four years ."

Sir, do yourself a favor and factcheck your figure. It's woefully incorrect.

September 16, 2012 at 1:06 p.m.
miraweb said...

Tough week for Romney - NASCAR rained out and he had to borrow a friend's private jet to get home.

Rather than a mad dash of rallies and photo ops through swing states, the Republican nominee's recent schedule usually has been limited to one public event each day and sometimes none at all – his days filled instead, aides said, with a much more robust behind-the-scenes docket.

"To the extent that the campaign is preparing for those 270 minutes [of debates] at the expense of a frantic daily campaign pace is an encouraging sign for Republicans," Schmidt added, "because it shows that the campaign is able to discern the difference between things that are more important and less important."

Inside the Romney brain trust, top aides grew defensive when questioned about why Romney has been making so few public appearances in recent days. Kevin Madden, an adviser who travels with Romney, insisted that the schedule is sufficiently busy for this stage of the campaign, and he rejected any notion that Romney may have a stamina issue.

When Romney has stepped out in recent days, he has had some bad luck. Last Saturday, for instance, he had planned to appear at a NASCAR race in Virginia and call out, "Drivers, start your engines!"

But his jump-start got rained out, leaving him to hand out hot dogs under a dank tent before leaving. He arrived at the airport to find his campaign's charter plane stranded on the tarmac because of an equipment malfunction.

Romney sat on the plane in Richmond for four hours, as reporters on board sent out Twitter messages about the unfortunate situation.

His aides eventually located a substitute aircraft – offered up from a NASCAR team owner – and Romney arrived home at 2:31 a.m.

http://www.kcchronicle.com/2012/09/12/romney-revs-up-schedule-as-obama-rides-post-convention-bounce/aj0uo64/?page=1

September 16, 2012 at 1:10 p.m.
alprova said...

TOES02800 wrote: "Hey alpo, check out BlueRidgePatriot at 11:54. Has the senate passed a budget then alpo? I must have missed it. Maybe you can post it for me as I'm sure you have a link of the senate passing a budget."

Already answered.

I'm still waiting for you to explain why the price of gasoline is the President's fault, Mr. IQ.

A couple of hours have passed. How many more will pass before you back up your claim?

September 16, 2012 at 1:12 p.m.
alprova said...

Here ya' go Toes. Tap dance all over this;

Leo Panetta, one of those subordinates I was referring to stated:

"The Pentagon has deployed our forces to a number of areas in the region to be prepared to respond to any requests that we receive to be able to protect our personnel and our American property."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/16/panetta-says-protests-in-middle-east-will-continue-but-violence-is-leveling-off/#ixzz26ecJ3gbO

September 16, 2012 at 1:21 p.m.
miraweb said...

Romney does have a jet thing going this week:

“We must have a military that is second-to-none,” the Republican nominee said.

Noting the U.S. military has “twice saved Europe,” Romney called the U.S. armed forces the best tool for the “preservation for peace around the world.”

As Romney was getting applause in Reno, even members of his own party acknowledged one of his recent campaign pledges would be tough to pull off.

While campaigning over the weekend, Romney raised eyebrows by saying, if elected, he would buy more F-22 fighters.

The Pentagon in 2009 announced it would stop buying the Lockheed Martin-made jets and cap its fleet at nearly 190. The production line has since been shuttered, and re-launching it would come at a hefty price.

A Romney administration would need the approval of the House and Senate armed services committees — and funding from both chambers’ appropriations committees — before buying more Raptors and re-starting the production line.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., told reporters a larger Raptor fleet is not a bad idea, due to the jet’s stealth coating that is designed to evade enemy radar systems. He cited the need to perform a mission inside Iran as a potential task for the F-22 fleet. The super-stealthy F-22s would need to sneak past Tehran’s air defenses to strike the Middle East nation’s nuclear facilities, Graham noted.

But how to pay for more, and to re-launch the production line? “Something would have to give,” Graham said.

Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., was also asked about Romney’s F-22 pledge. As he disappeared into an elevator, Levin said buying more “has not been my position.”

http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2012/09/dn-romney-vow-purchase-more-f22-raptors-questioned-091112/

September 16, 2012 at 1:24 p.m.
fairmon said...

it’s clear from your posts that I’m far more generous than you, and unlike greedy men like Romney, I don’t try to weasel out of paying my fair share of taxes and I don't hide my money in Switzerland and the Cayman Islands.

I will compare my charitable contributions to anyone here and percentage wise to anyone with wealth or in public office. I will pay no more than the absolute minimum in taxes. I do get upset at the wasteful spending, the ineiffiecincy and down right abuse of the government. I detest those in offfice thinking they know best and can best provide for those in need. It is easy to insist that the government do more when you are not paying your fair share. There would be no deficit if everyone paid their fair share.

September 16, 2012 at 1:32 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

Mountainlaurel, your "No, we can't" posts are excellent. Every one of them is on the mark. And the music video in your link is really funny...but sadly true. It should be the theme song for the Republican party.

September 16, 2012 at 1:35 p.m.
MTJohn said...

TOES02800 said..."Why won't the senate pass a budget of their own alpo?"

You and the right-wing media from whom you borrowed this meaningless talking point either do not understand the process by which a federal budget is lawfully developed or, worse, are intentionally dishonest.

September 16, 2012 at 2:52 p.m.
mymy said...

Osama Obama spiked the football too many times re Bin Laden. He should have made one simple “we” not “I” got him and shut up, but no……………………………..,etc.

His foreign policy is weak/wrong just like his economic/domestic policies. The World is laughing and we are paying!!!

One of these days they will get us again here, you fools! The biased MSM media is not fairly reporting anything re all subjects. Shameful!! They are always covering Obama butt.

“Libyan President Mohammed el-Megarif said he believes Al Qaeda is responsible for the deadly attack at the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi that killed four Americans and said roughly 50 people have arrested in connection with the violence, according to two broadcast interviews Sunday.

Megarif, president of the Libyan National Congress, also reportedly differed with the Obama administration’s position that the attacks Tuesday were sparked by an anti-Islamic video on the Internet.

In an interview with NPR, Megarif said foreigners have been infiltrating his country over the past few months, which has been undergoing major changes since the uprising against the late dictator Muammar al-Qaddafi.

Megarif says the attackers, who he believes are connected to Al Qaeda, used the protests at the consulate as a cover to attack the U.S. Consulate on the anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

"We firmly believe that this was a precalculated, preplanned attack that was carried out specifically to attack the U.S. Consulate," Megarif told NPR.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/16/libyan-president-megaryef-al-qaeda-behind-deadly-attack-on-us-consulate/#ixzz26f12g0IN

President Mohammed el-Megarif says in interview he believes Al Qaeda-linked foreigners infiltrated his country to carry out 'precalculated, preplanned' attack on US consulate in Benghazi.”

September 16, 2012 at 3:22 p.m.
conservative said...

EaTn, regarding your "I hope you aren't seriously thinking in terms of taking us back to the Bush and GOP congress era, two wars and five trillion dollar debt while cutting wealthy taxes."

There seems to be a large disconnect here. You must have missed my last statement so I will gladly provide it again -

In the last election the Demoncrats lost 6 seats in the Senate, over 60 house seats,6 governorships and over 680 seats in state legislatures so it is quite obvious America had that in mind when they voted.

September 16, 2012 at 4 p.m.
mymy said...

What a disgrace this President is for the United States and this is only one example: Comments Priceless

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2012/09/dolphins-dissing-president-obama-chats-pitbull-medicare-on-911-with-pimp-with-the-limp-dj.html

September 16, 2012 at 4:17 p.m.
fairmon said...

The house passed Ryan's budget proposal but Reid will not allow a senate vote on it?

September 16, 2012 at 4:22 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Alpo proves his stupidity daily. He has convinced himself through internet comment pages that he is the sole bringer of truth. When he seems to be a sucker of government tits. His friends(if indeed he has any) probably laugh at him behind his back. The mere fact that alpo still worships Obama says volumes of his lack of intelligence. A bitter, lonely old man. And I think I know why. Freak.

September 16, 2012 at 4:33 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Gasoline Prices More than Double Under Obama: $1.84 to $3.85

Happened under his watch. That makes it his fault. As you liberals like to say about Bush.

September 16, 2012 at 4:37 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

EaTn said: “You aren't seriously thinking in terms of taking us back to the Bush and GOP congress era, two wars and five trillion dollar debt while cutting wealthy taxes.”

Unfortunately, it does appear to be the case, EaTn. Indeed, destructive neocons like Dan Senor are slithering back and a less-than-truthful Republican duo are wanting us to feed them again:

“Ryan was moving his mouth, but the voice was the neocon puppet master Dan Senor. The hawkish Romney adviser has been secunded to manage the running mate and graft a Manichaean worldview onto the foreign affairs neophyte.

A moral, muscular foreign policy; a disdain for weakness and diplomacy; a duty to invade and bomb Israel’s neighbors; a divine right to pre-emption — it’s all ominously familiar.

You can draw a direct line from the hyperpower manifesto of the Project for the New American Century, which the neocons, abetted by Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, used to prod an insecure and uninformed president into invading Iraq — a wildly misguided attempt to intimidate Arabs through the shock of overwhelming force. How’s that going for us?

After 9/11, the neocons captured one Republican president who was naïve about the world. Now, amid contagious Arab rage sparked on the 11th anniversary of 9/11, they have captured another would-be Republican president and vice president, both jejeune about the world.

Senor is emblematic of how much trouble America blundered into in the Middle East — trillions wasted, so many lives and limbs lost — because of how little we fathom the culture and sectarian politics. We’re still stumbling in the dark. We not only don’t know who our allies and enemies are, we don’t know who our allies’ and enemies’ allies and enemies are.

As the spokesman for Paul Bremer during the Iraq occupation, Senor helped perpetrate one of the biggest foreign policy bungles in American history. The clueless desert viceroys summarily disbanded the Iraqi Army, forced de-Baathification, stood frozen in denial as thugs looted ministries and museums, deluded themselves about the growing insurgency, and misled reporters with their Panglossian scenarios of progress.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/16/opinion/sunday/dowd-neocons-slither-back.html

September 16, 2012 at 4:39 p.m.
MTJohn said...

TOES02800 said..."Gasoline Prices More than Double Under Obama: $1.84 to $3.85"

TOE - you have a bad habit of citing sources that intentionally distort the truth.

http://www.americablog.com/2012/03/under-what-party-did-gasoline-and-oil.html

September 16, 2012 at 4:50 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Tu_quoquie says: No, we can’t let women make their own health decisions etc. . .

Say no more, Tu_quoque. Women in America already know how Republican politicians feel about the right of women to make their own health decisions:

“If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. But let’s assume that maybe that didn’t work or something: I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be of the rapist, and not attacking the child.”

[Todd Akin - Republican for U.S. Senate]

September 16, 2012 at 5:25 p.m.
alprova said...

TOES02800 wrote: "Alpo proves his stupidity daily. He has convinced himself through internet comment pages that he is the sole bringer of truth."

Proof that I have ever written or implied such a thing? You are full of lies today, aren't you?

"When he seems to be a sucker of government tits."

I pay a rather substantial amount to the IRS and the State of Georgia each and every quarter. Sorry, but I don't know what a Gov't teat tastes like.

"His friends(if indeed he has any) probably laugh at him behind his back."

Actually, my friends, which are indeed aplenty, and I have wonderful and spiritual political discussions all the time. We each laugh at each other's jabs...face to face.

"The mere fact that alpo still worships Obama says volumes of his lack of intelligence."

I only worship God and his son. I support and defend the President due to the frequency and amount of misinformation, half-truths, and the outright lies that people, such as yourself, hang onto for dear life, because ignorance seems to be what you feed on each day.

Forgive me if I merely smile at the thought that you consider me unintelligent. Clearly you are practicing mental assessment without a license.

"A bitter, lonely old man. And I think I know why. Freak."

I'm sure you know all about that every time you look into a mirror.

September 16, 2012 at 5:30 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

What source? Gas prices DID rise from $1.84 to $3.85 a gallon under Obama. Where is the distortion of truth in that statement?

September 16, 2012 at 5:31 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

So Laurel...you really believe Todd Akin speaks for his party? Do you really, Laura? If I remember, he was condemned and cut-off by the Pubs. I think you know that. You're channeling the chicago thugs rather well, tho.

September 16, 2012 at 5:34 p.m.
ricardo said...

Toecheese said..."Happened under his watch. That makes it his fault. As you liberals like to say about Bush."

9/11, Iraq War, Hurricane Katrina, the 2008 financial meltdown, the bank bailout, Iran's nuclear program are all Bush's fault.

September 16, 2012 at 5:34 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Tu_quoque says: No, we can’t help you with college – you disenchanted youth etc.

Please, Tu_quo-que. Americans can read the fine print. We get the Republican message about investing in America’s young adults. It’s simply not one of the values that Republicans cherish.

September 16, 2012 at 5:47 p.m.
alprova said...

TOES02800 wrote: "Happened under his watch. That makes it his fault. As you liberals like to say about Bush."

Ah...yes, what an original, thought provoking response. It is a pleasure to witness you pull such a marvel off the top of your brain after hours of contemplation and consideration.

You and Michelle Bachmann must both be Mensa members. Oh what a joy it would be to be a fly on a wall whenever the two of you get together for a brain-storming session to discuss our President in fine detail.

Seriously, is that the best that you can come up with? For a man who claims to have superior intelligence, I'd have expected a much more involved, albeit false, response.

I guess those rocks rolling around up there aren't what you think they are, after all. How do you stand the noise when they continuously bounce of the inside of your skull while you walk?

September 16, 2012 at 5:49 p.m.
NGAdad said...

When Tu_pid is not advocating for freedom of rape, as long as there is all those modern contraceptives, it doesn't listen to it's own candidate.

Mitt said the Sunday following his pick of Ryan that he will not be using that plan. Romney says he has his own plan ... BUT it is a SECRET, apparently.

September 16, 2012 at 6:23 p.m.
alprova said...

TOES20800 wrote: "Gas prices DID rise from $1.84 to $3.85 a gallon under Obama. Where is the distortion of truth in that statement?"

The "Under Obama" addendum to your statement is indeed a distortion of the truth. In fact, it rises to the level as a lie.

A lie is an untruth related at the time you tell it, and brother, you know doggone well that statement was untrue the four times that you have typed it today.

To add his name at the end the statement, is to suggest that he had complicity, control, or command in causing gasoline prices to rise.

Now get busy sealing the deal, or admit to the falsehood contained in your claim, just like you have all the other falsehoods you have been guilty of making.

And you have the audacity to call other people "moron" and to attack their intelligence?

Do you even care about your own credibility? Does the truth not matter to you at all? Why do you waste your time posting in here anymore?

If you want to hate the President, fine. There are all kinds of legitimate, truthful reasons to find philosophical disagreement with the man about. But for some reason, people like yourself and a few others in here, have to spread misinformation, half-truths, and outright lies in some pathetic attempt to convince others that the man is unworthy of a second term.

You're not fooling anyone, and neither are the two clowns running across the country who have aspirations of assuming the two top spots themselves.

Facts will always be facts. And the fact is that this country is already on the right path to recovery, albeit at a slow pace, most people know it to be a fact, and the majority of the American people will give President Obama a second term.

Don't let me stand in your way of making a complete fool of yourself though. You're perfectly within your right to do so.

September 16, 2012 at 6:35 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Jack_Dennis said: "You really believe Todd Akin speaks for his party? If I remember, he was condemned and cut-off by the Pubs.

Yes, I do, Jack. And most American women understand only too well what Republican Vice Presidential candidate Paul Ryan meant when he was asked about his views on rape a few days after Todd Akin’s infamous statement. In case you’ve forgotten, Ryan’s view was:

"The method of conception doesn't change the definition of life."

Did you notice any critical issue that is missing from Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan’s perspective on the subject of rape, Jack? Anyone applying a little common sense should be able to figure it out. [Answer: the human female victim]

September 16, 2012 at 6:47 p.m.
MTJohn said...

TOES02800 said..."What source? Gas prices DID rise from $1.84 to $3.85 a gallon under Obama. Where is the distortion of truth in that statement?"

Did you check the link that I posted? I suspect not.

Gas prices did, indeed, rise from $1.84 to $3.85. But, what was the price of gas during most of Bush's second term? The only thing Bush did to drop the price of gas to $1.84 late in 2008 was to put our economy on the brink of depression. To suggest that Obama is responsible for doubling in the price of gas is deceptive or, worse, intentionally dishonest.

September 16, 2012 at 7:09 p.m.
alprova said...

If anyone is curious about Paul Ryan's plan that was adopted by the House of Representatives as their 2013 budget proposal to counter the one that the President proposed, spend a few minutes learning what is contained in it.

You will read that the American people overwhelmingly are opposed to the plan, that the CBO considers it unrealistic, overly optimistic on several fronts, and that the timeline projections in it will take no less than double and triple the number of years cited in the plan.

Pay close attention to the section about Medicare. The CBO states clearly that the Ryan plan increases the out of pocket costs to beneficiaries for their medical coverage from 25% to 68%.

Take note of the fact that the CBO also cites that the tax cuts contained in the plan absolutely will benefit the wealthy, absolutely add taxes to the middle and lower income classes.

If you need to reference the plan itself, by all means, knock yourself out to discover the finer details of what a Tea-Party inspired, Utopian version of a budget contains.

http://budget.house.gov/uploadedfiles/pathtoprosperity2013.pdf

September 16, 2012 at 7:10 p.m.
patriot1 said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-zxZoV4sj4&feature=player_detailpage

Obama and Cankles Clinton should both resign...NOW!!!

September 16, 2012 at 7:47 p.m.
degage said...

The kool aid is relly flowing tonight, must have vodka in it.

September 16, 2012 at 7:52 p.m.
alprova said...

Any statement that references any charge that Congress exempted themselves from ObamaCare is literally and patently false.

That aside, I seriously doubt that the American people are overly concerned about a language loophole, that will surely be fixed legislatatively prior to January 1, 2014 or that will be plugged by default in forcing technically exempted employees to choose from ObamaCare plans, which will be the only plans offered to any and all Federal employees.

The Federal health care benefit plan currently offered will be no more. So it's rather pointless to quibble about something that will no longer exist as an option open to Federal employees at any level.

Therefore, as I noted earlier, by January 1, 2019, every single Federal employee will only be allowed to choose plans outlined in the Affordable Health Care Act, affectionately known as ObamaCare.

September 16, 2012 at 8:17 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Yet another Mitt Romney advisor who has no problem telling a lie:

“In a congressional hearing Thursday, Continental Resources CEO and Mitt Romney’s chief energy adviser Harold Hamm asked to preserve the oil industry’s billions in tax breaks, although his company pays little in federal taxes. . .

In his prepared testimony, Hamm defends tax breaks by pointing to his own company, saying, “Continental’s effective tax rate is 38%!”

But according to Citizens for Tax Justice, Continental paid an average 2.2 percent tax rate . . .

Hamm claims a higher tax rate by including deferred taxes the company hasn’t paid.

It’s a popular tactic, used by oil companies and the American Petroleum Institute. CTJ shows that Continental Resources has paid federal income taxes as low as 0.1 percent in the last five years”

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/09/13/843341/romney-hamm-taxes/

September 16, 2012 at 8:26 p.m.
ricardo said...

Does anyone really believe that things will get better after the election, no matter who wins?

Scenario #1: Obama wins a second term, but the House remains in Repugnant control. Continued gridlock.

Scenario #2: Romney wins the election, but the Senate remains in Democratic control. Continued gridlock.

I think sequestration is the best way to force them to work together to accomplish something. Everybody loses if it goes into effect.

September 16, 2012 at 8:44 p.m.
ricardo said...

God help us all if they can't find a way to work together.

September 16, 2012 at 9:04 p.m.
fairmon said...

alpropva stated......

The Federal health care benefit plan currently offered will be no more. So it's rather pointless to quibble about something that will no longer exist as an option open to Federal employees at any level.

How do you square this with Obama's promise when he said "if you like the plan you have you can keep it", nothing in the AHCA will affect you. Did he lie or misspeak? I know from personal experience and others I know will not have the option of keeping what they have. Employers are baling out so fast you can't count them. You can't blame them for not accepting the unknown and the future liability it brings.

alpro...do you provide your employees a good health care policy? Do you mean members of congress will no longer have the same health care arrangement they now have?

September 16, 2012 at 9:09 p.m.
ricardo said...

Wow, surprise, surprise. Extremists in the Middle East don't like us. Boo-hoo. Why don't they see us as liberators? Hmmm... We're such a perfect society. Everybody should envy us. Not.

September 16, 2012 at 9:12 p.m.
fairmon said...

ricardo...

You may be right with your 8:44pm post but then think about how much better things would be if a lot of the legislation in the past 12 years had not been passed. Sequestration may be a good thing or was it another attempt to create a crisis so congress would act? It may be the only truly responsible thing they have done in years.

I say let all the 1/1/13 scheduled event happen then if the tax rates are too high reduce them on a permanent basis. Temporary is not the right way to do it.

September 16, 2012 at 9:17 p.m.
fairmon said...

ricardo said...

Wow, surprise, surprise. Extremists in the Middle East don't like us. Boo-hoo. Why don't they see us as liberators? Hmmm... We're such a perfect society. Everybody should envy us. Not.

How many years have we been meddling in their affairs and trying to dictate to them how they should govern and be governed? Why did we guarnatee to defend some middle east countries as long as they kept a supply of oil coming our way? Would you be reactive if some other country continuously kept a bullying presence in the U.S.?

September 16, 2012 at 9:24 p.m.
alprova said...

Tu_quoque wrote: "[Repealing the ACA would appear to result in a $711 billion cost to the government for this increase in the rate of spending for Medicare. However the cut to Medicare would have been applied to the ACA anyway so this is a wash for the government no matter if the ACA is repealed or not. - tu]"

You call it a "wash?" Savings that are contained in the ACA most certainly are to be used to provide health care, and they prop up the solvency of Medicare for 8 years.

Paul Ryan's and the Republican plan is to trim about the same amount from Medicare...period. Their plan is a direct cut in benefits...period. Not one dime of that savings would benefit a soul, but it would make up the difference in justifying further tax cuts for the wealthy.

Is that a wash too?

"[Repealing the ACA would result in a savings to the taxpayers of $569 billion - tu]"

But of course. Sparing the wealthy, hospitals, and corporations a dime more in taxes, is much more important and more worthy a cause than to reform a system of health care in this nation that provides quality health care to those who have the means to pay for it, or who are only allowed to be issued an insurance policy if they have never been sick.

Regardless of how you personally view those revenue boosting taxes, none of which I'm betting would take one thin dime from your own pocket, they will go away if the ACA is repealed, thus reverting the taxpayers back to having to foot the bills for the 50 million or so uninsured in this nation.

How do you and the Republicans figure on fixing that? How much will be saved again?

"[The above two would result conservatively to a savings of about $15 billion. - tu]"

To impliment the plan to provide health care coverage to most people in this country, the last category represents a cost to the taxpayers of about $5.55 per year, per person, over the nine years covered in the CBO study.

Imagine what that it will cost to go back to our broken system of health care that we all know is destined to cost 2, 3, 4, or maybe ten times more if something is not done.

I stand by my previous statement on this issue. Your version of what would be "saved" is very much like the Ryan/Republican budget plan. It does not take into consideration what will have to be doled out to hospitals for health care of the uninsured in this nation if the ACA is repealed.

How many baby boomers are about to join the ranks of the retired? How do the Ryan/Republicans propose to accomodate the sharp rise in the number of beneficiaries over the coming years, by cutting taxes even more?

(To be cont.)

September 16, 2012 at 9:48 p.m.
alprova said...

(Cont.)

Perhaps that is not the real question I should be asking. Let me think like a Republican for a moment.

Why don't we just euthanize anyone who is too poor to pay for their health care without the benefit of Medicare? Why not shoot to death everyone on the day that they retire? Social Security would then not be needed.

While we're at it, let's go ahead and deport all the black people, for they are viewed as nothing more than welfare recipients. Don't forget to deport all those job stealing Hispanics too. You're Hispanic AND were born here? So what? This country belongs to white people. We stole it from those who had red skin and now we own it.

Oh...you were raped and now you are pregnant? Your father impregnated you? Why you slut. After you download the baby, we're gonna tie your tubes so that this never happens again.

Gee...that should just about fix every problem on the minds of the typical Republican.

I'm so sick of "patriotic," thoughtless and selfish people, who have not one iota of concern for the problems that people face in this nation, so long as it does not affect them personally.

The one thought that keeps me from losing my sanity, is the knowledge that everyone meets their maker, and they will indeed answer to him for what resides in their hearts.

September 16, 2012 at 9:51 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Laurel: So you will decide your vote against Romney because his VP candidate has a deeply religious view against abortion? Is that what you're saying? Seems like too many problems facing our country than to quibble over that view. Roe/Wade ain't going anywhere and you know it.

September 16, 2012 at 9:58 p.m.
alprova said...

Harp3339 wrote: "How do you square this with Obama's promise when he said "if you like the plan you have you can keep it", nothing in the AHCA will affect you. Did he lie or misspeak?"

Not many people in this nation get to choose their employer sponsored health care plans. That decision is left up to the employer.

What he said was not a lie, nor did he misspeak. He was addressing those who do make such decisions.

"I know from personal experience and others I know will not have the option of keeping what they have. Employers are baling out so fast you can't count them. You can't blame them for not accepting the unknown and the future liability it brings."

And yet, I read just the other day that the number of insured in this nation has risen by 1.3 percent.

http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Daily-Reports/2012/September/13/census-numbers.aspx

If employers were dropping health care coverage in droves, how would this be possible? I don't doubt that there are indeed employers who are looking at other options, as premiums are still currently rising, and will continue to do so for at least another year, but then employers have been altering their benefit offerings long before the passage of the ACA.

Perhaps there are employers who are totally clueless to the fact that the ACA now...today...offers employers who have 25 or fewer employees on staff, some rather generous tax credits for each employee covered with health care insurance, that is if the employer pays at least 50% of the premiums. Only the portion of any coverage paid on behalf of the employee, but not for family coverage, qualifies for the credit.

On January 1, 2014, that credit rises to a maximum of 50%.

The credit percentage is based on the number of employees you have, the total dollar amount you pay them in wages, and their full-time or part-time status.

Two part-time employees count as one full time employee. Wages paid to a claimed employee must not exceed $50,000 a year, or $961.53 a week. Even employers who do not owe taxes for a particular tax year are allowed to claim the credit prior and forward to other tax years.

Premimums paid in excess of the credit are still tax deductible. It's a great deal for small employers.

"alpro...do you provide your employees a good health care policy?"

Yes I do. I also qualify for the full 35% credit above.

"Do you mean members of congress will no longer have the same health care arrangement they now have?"

Yes. Members of Congress will only be allowed to choose from health care policies set forth and outlined in the ACA after January 1, 2014. All newly hired Federal employees, after January 1, 2014 will only be allowed to choose from ACA offered policies. By January 1, 2019, every single Federal employee in the entire nation will have made the switch from the The Federal Employees Health Benefits (FEHB) to an ACA policy.

September 16, 2012 at 10:59 p.m.
alprova said...

Harp, keep in mind that while the President did indeed make that statement that "if you like your current policy, you will be allowed to keep it," that was directed to the people who pay for their own policies or who make the decisions about the health care covrage extended to their employees.

Unless the insurance companies fail to adjust their rates as the ACA call for them to do, once they have most of this country on board, private policies are not going away any time soon. People who can afford private policies, will most definitely be allowed to do so.

The U.S. Government makes all the decisions as the employer regarding the health care coverage extended to all Federal employees, and thus, is certainly entitled to make changes in benefits like any other employer. And so they did.

The Gov't did away with the previous pension plan, which has not been offered to anyone hired since January 1, 1986, and very few people working for the Gov't today are included in that plan.

Federal employees for the most part, including most members of Congress, fund their own retirement plans through 401k's or Roth's with meager contributions by the Gov't.

September 16, 2012 at 11:23 p.m.
dude_abides said...

TOES02800 said... "Ambassadors being murdered, embassies being burned, ex-navy seals dying, anti-American stampedes all across the globe. Where's Obama? He's campaigning and happy to finally have outraised Romney. What a worthless piece of crap this guy is. He has absolutely NO CLUE what's happening. Fuc#ing fraud. Obama's ruining this country and you liberals are complete morons for supporting his punk ass."

LOL He's the most powerful man in the world and you aren't even a shift supervisor at a half assed assembly plant, from what you've told us. Nobody gives a tinker's cuss what you think, and he's about to be reelected by tens of millions of Americans, most of which have higher IQs than you. How does that make you feel, Lee Harvey Toeswald? What's hilarious is that you don't even have the brass to get that psychopathic. So, really, you should shut the hell up and recognize your station in life. Your posts are like being in an elevator with someone with halitosis.

September 16, 2012 at 11:30 p.m.
alprova said...

dude_abides wrote: "Your posts are like being in an elevator with someone with halitosis."

Ouch!! I had to clean my monitor and keyboard after I read that last sentence. I had just taken a gulp of tea.

LMAO!!

September 17, 2012 at 12:03 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova shared.....

Perhaps there are employers who are totally clueless to the fact that the ACA now...today...offers employers who have 25 or fewer employees on staff, some rather generous tax credits for each employee covered with health care insurance, that is if the employer pays at least 50% of the premiums. Only the portion of any coverage paid on behalf of the employee, but not for family coverage, qualifies for the credit.

1-employers are changing their benefit to putting a set therefore predictable amount in a HSA per employee with the employee using it to buy insurance or pay health care cost etc. It is enough to prevent the employers paying a penalty tax with the delta between that and the premium at the employee's expense.

2-I hate the manipulation via tax credits you describe. Those not getting that tax credit obviously help pay for those with under 25 employees health care. Giving anyone a tax credit for anything or a deduction means someone else is paying more to off set the loss. Currently it means borrowing more so it is much less objectionable.

September 17, 2012 at 7:16 a.m.
mymy said...

49 Days to Go!

It is still the economy/jobs/foreign policy/direction of country and National Security here and abroad.

Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock

September 17, 2012 at 8:13 a.m.
mymy said...

The Terrifying Line in Obama's Speech That Everyone Missed

“But while everyone was picking apart these and other flaws in Obama's speech, they overlooked the most frightening line of all. That was when Obama promised that he'd pursue "the kind of bold, persistent experimentation that Franklin Roosevelt pursued during the only crisis worse than this one."

That promise might have made liberal hearts swoon. But as Amity Shlaes explained in her outstanding history of the era — "The Forgotten Man" — it was precisely FDR's "bold, persistent experimentation" that was largely to blame for the length, depth and severity of the Great Depression.

Convinced that the government had to do something, FDR tinkered and experimented, she said, figuring that if he didn't "get it right the first time ... maybe he'd get it right the second time." But the very arbitrariness of FDR's actions, she found, made it impossible for businesses to make plans. And so, as FDR's bold experiments increased, business activity decreased and markets froze.

"From the point of view of a business," Shlaes said in a 2009 interview, "it is annihilating to hear Washington uncertain, and that itself retards recovery because you really don't know what to expect."

If Obama wants to conduct experiments, he should get a job as a high school science teacher, and not use the entire nation as guinea pigs, particularly when we already know how his tests will turn out.”

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/090712-625080-terrifying-promise-obama-made-.htm?ven=OutBrainCP

September 17, 2012 at 8:31 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

mymy ^^ Community Organizing probably pays better than teaching. Hours are better. Plus, he has experience.

September 17, 2012 at 8:39 a.m.
patriot1 said...

mymy: Great book, "The Forgotten Man" and it's true FDR presided over the depression longer than anyone else. The economy began to improve only after FDR realized he needed the private sector for his war effort and backed off. As I've said before most libs seem to think history began when GW Bush got elected and refuse to learn anything from the past.

September 17, 2012 at 9:04 a.m.
mymy said...

Hard to believe how dumb too many people are, isn't it. Well, maybe not as the liberals have created them over decades with Welfare=dumbed down dependent people!

The Obama Administration is denying their responsibility re mid-east, etc. by blaming a video. The dummies will buy into it. I don't!! Don't want to talk about it, just want it to go away. I'm tissed to say the least!

September 17, 2012 at 9:35 a.m.
dude_abides said...

Oh mymy God! Now the Great Depression was FDR's fault. You patridiots will stop at nothing.

September 17, 2012 at 9:38 a.m.
alprova said...

It's interesting to me patriot1, that you want to look at history, going way back, while completely overlooking that which is more recent, and more reflective of that which we are embroiled in now.

I don't blame GWB, but I do blame the Republicans as a whole for most of what is ailing this nation today.

Republicans are only concerned with coddling the rich, and they most certainly created the environment that collapsed our financial system and housing markets.

Quite frankly, I could not care less what FDR did or did not do back in the thirties that you feel is relevant to our current state of affairs. Why?

Because while there are definitely valid comparisons to be made, such as what led to this mess, the differences stop there.

Our economy is more service based today, where is was manufacturing based back then. Technology has evolved, allowing people to be much more informed than they were back then. The television did not even exist in the 30's. The American people were far different, most definitely less selfish, less greedy, and definitely more ethical.

People were eager to assist those in need, or to lend a hand to a neighbor. Fast forward to the year 2012. It's every person for themselves. Mine is mine and you can't have a dime.

What have people learned over the past decade regarding this nation's involvement in the Middle-East? Not very much, if this forum is any indication of how people feel about going to war.

Your candidate is all to eager to embrace Benjamin Netanyahu's desire to go to war with Iran. You people have no idea what that would do to this fragile economy.

Think $6.00 a gallon for gas or more. Think several billion added to the debt per year. More innocent lives lost, both here and abroad.

Enough I say. If you want to look at history, look at all the lives that have been snuffed out because people refuse to accept that differences need not be worth fighting over all the time.

September 17, 2012 at 9:42 a.m.
mymy said...

A Michelle, not a Mooooochelle, that has something substantial to say:

Malkin Op-ed: The Hip-Hop President: All Swag, No Cattle

Wazzup, President Obama? You've got room on your schedule to schmooze hip-hop radio DJs, debate Nicki Minaj's rap lyrics, hobnob with big donor celebs Jay-Z and Beyonce, and hang with Hollywood gossip TV anchors. _

We see your passion on the golf course, basketball court and beach. We see you late night on Letterman and Leno. We see your boundless energy on the campaign trail. We see your Twitter donation solicitations from dusk till dawn.

But when it comes time to play leader of the free world in times of international crisis, it's "see ya, wouldn't wanna be ya." He's all swag, no cattle.

I know I'm not the only one who was flabbergasted by Obama's bloodless Rose Garden appearance following the planned two-part 9/11/12 jihadi attacks on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, which resulted in the deaths of four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens.

Late as usual, the president ambled up to the podium 15 minutes behind schedule on Wednesday morning. Teleprompter-less, he spent the majority of his fleeting five-and-a-half-minute appearance with eyes downcast on his script.

With a grim Secretary of State Hillary Clinton looking over his shoulder, Obama delivered a flat, obligatory tribute to the murdered Americans. And then he read these words, drained of any iota of outrage, as if reading a local weather forecast. Or a fifth-grade book report. Or a dinner menu:

If only Obama had mustered half as much energy and outrage at the homicidal Islamic plotters in Benghazi as he shows in his tirades against the Tea Party, the Koch brothers, conservative talk radio, Fox News, House GOP budget reformers or GOP presidential rival Mitt Romney and his running mate, Paul Ryan.

If only he had delivered his Rose Garden script with as much conviction and finger-jabbing as he did when he "slow-jammed the news" with comedian Jimmy Fallon.

This isn't the first time Obama's diffident demeanor in crisis has been exposed. I've noted before his bizarrely detached initial remarks about the Fort Hood jihadi attack — which he treated as an afterthought. And I reported on his sterile national security announcement in December 2010, when the jihadi Christmas Day underwear bomber rudely interrupted his vacay. Eyes down on his notes the whole time and dressed in tie-less informal Hawaiian island wear, he described the failed attack with the weariness of a small-town sheriff's deputy.

And then he rushed back to work. Or rather, rest.

What makes a growing number of Americans angry is the lack of righteous anger this administration exhibits toward the existential threats we face abroad and at home. We want a leader — not a celebrity — who puts the nation's self-preservation above his own.

http://www.creators.com/opinion/michelle-malkin.html

September 17, 2012 at 9:46 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Jack_Dennis said: "So you will decide your vote against Romney because his VP candidate has a deeply religious view against abortion? Is that what you're saying?

Please, Jack. I have a long list of reasons for not voting for Romney. As for this particular issue, a lot of us have religious views, but this does not give us the right to impose our views on others, which is what Ryan is trying to do.

As for Ryan’s "deep" religious views, I find it interesting how a politician like Paul Ryan can ramble on about an alleged conscience in situations involving the rights of a victim to choose when it comes to a pregnancy resulting from the crime of rape, but suddenly lose that same conscience when it comes to other “life/death" issues.

Indeed, where is Paul Ryan’s moral compass when it comes to killing innocent men, women, and children through his preemptive war mongering neo-con politics?

Well, we all know the answer to this question, don’t we, Jack? Like the rape victim, the lives and rights of these people are placed into a category that Mr. Ryan and his fellow neo-cons call incidental collateral damage. A "call" that I think reflects Mr. Ryan’s warped and deeply held political views not his religion.

September 17, 2012 at 9:54 a.m.
dude_abides said...

Loads of racial undertones in your pastepost, mymy. Try to think of him as a man, mymy, and not a black man. Mymy guess is that you're not as fit as Michelle Obama, either. Whenever you feel that ignorant rage building up, just go inhale some doughnuts or twinkies. It'll make youyou feel muchmuch better.

September 17, 2012 at 10:10 a.m.
mymy said...

In the Middle East, Obama's chickens are coming home to roost

According to President Obama’s narrative, the murder of four Americans in Libya is a story of “senseless violence” provoked by an anti-Islam video. According to his Praetorian Guards in the media, the story is how Mitt Romney rudely criticized Obama’s foreign policy.

Here’s the real story: The murder of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others is the most important terrorist attack on American civilians since 9/11. And it happened on the 11th anniversary of that day of infamy, on Obama’s watch.

There were no Marines on guard, and there are reports that the Benghazi embassy had been warned of an Al Qaeda assault, yet there were no precautions. It is likely the organized attackers, some carrying rocket-propelled grenades, had inside information about a “safe house,” where they killed two of the Americans.

Obama, after offering condolences and vowing to find those responsible, flew off to a campaign event in Vegas.

If that were all, it would be reason enough to doubt his competency and character. But it’s not all.

The crisis, including riots at our embassies in 20 countries, is the full flowering of a policy predicated on appeasement and apology. To borrow a phrase, the Obama chickens are coming home to roost.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/17/in-middle-east-obama-chickens-are-coming-home-to-roost/#ixzz26jgts7wu

September 17, 2012 at 10:13 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

laurel: War mongering? Why are we in Afghanistan now? Who's killing people in droves with drones? Why do you want to impose YOUR beliefs on Paul Ryan? Do you think abortion after rape/incest should be the top drawer issue in campaign? I guess it beats talking about the economy. You libs are the Kings of Red Herrings.

September 17, 2012 at 10:19 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Bulletin: Anniversary of OWS....The usual Marxist on here must be in rapture. Eh, dude_, Easy, rickyroo?

September 17, 2012 at 10:42 a.m.
dude_abides said...

Jack_, I don't think Marxists would believe in any sort of rapture, would they? See, this speaks to your 'skim across the surface' dedication to the truth. Keep swinging that stick, big guy, eventually some candy will fall out of your pinhead pinata.

September 17, 2012 at 11:01 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

dude_ You clearly have no sense of humor. Are you in NYC today with your comrades?

September 17, 2012 at 11:17 a.m.
patriot1 said...

Alpo:Since you think what happened in history is not relevant today, I suppose dates like say, 1776 and 1787 mean nothing as well. Here are some liberals discussing that very thing from which you might get some talking points.

September 17, 2012 at 11:18 a.m.
dude_abides said...

No, I'm up here at PricewaterhouseCoopers in Franklin Tennessee, letting some more hackers in to get more of Mitt Romney's tax records.

September 17, 2012 at 11:24 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

good for you, dude_. knock yourself out. while you're at it, maybe you can hack into Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard's admission records and get a look at The Messiah's applications.

September 17, 2012 at 11:30 a.m.
dude_abides said...

Romnambulism: Trying to conduct a political campaign under the influence of pure grain dumbassahol.

September 17, 2012 at 11:35 a.m.
dude_abides said...

Sorry, Jack_, but I only have time to deal with legitimate issues.

September 17, 2012 at 11:59 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

dude_: Price Waterhouse my ass. More likely SEIU, Intl Workers of the World. Or some such.

September 17, 2012 at 12:44 p.m.
mymy said...

dude_abides said... Loads of racial undertones in your pastepost, mymy. Try to think of him as a man, mymy, and not a black man.

Got to act like a man to be treated as one. He has lace on his shorts as far as I am concerned! Just somebody else’s puppet!!

Want racial: No, better not it would set this site on fire!!!! That's your and yours card to play to ad nauseam.

September 17, 2012 at 12:56 p.m.
ibshame said...

"Jack_Dennis said... good for you, dude_. knock yourself out. while you're at it, maybe you can hack into Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard's admission records and get a look at The Messiah's applications"

What do you think could be in those records that would not already have been exposed by now? Do you believe for one minute that if there was something there, the McCain campaign or Hillary's campaign (for that matter) would not have already exposed it? As desperate as Mitt Romney is now, if he had even a tiny slip of paper with anything on it that he could use against President Obama as it relates to this issue it would already be on the internet.

The bottom line is this: Birthers, truth seekers or whatever your kind wants to call yourselves, haven't been able to delegitimize President Obama. He got elected in 2008 and it looks like he's on a roll to get elected again. Mitt Romney in 2012 can't get the majority of voters to buy what he's selling. Mitt Romney will win by a landslide in the land of Dixie but not enough anyplace else to carry him to the White House. He won't carry Massachusetts where he was governor or Michigan where he was born. He's behind in Ohio, Florida and Va.

The media is pretending the race is tight just as they did during the Republican Primary when every week there was a new frontrunner. The big difference this time is the fact Romney can't destroy President Obama's chances as he did with Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry and last but certainly not least Rick Santorum. Everyone seems to have forgotten it was Newt Gingrich who produced a 30 minute "documentary" on Bain Capital and what Romney was doing at Bain. Shortly after Romney destroyed Gingrich's campaign. So if there was ANYTHING to the myth about President Obama's college records Romney would have put it out there by now. Only the truly ignorant continue to maintain there's something there when it's not.

September 17, 2012 at 12:58 p.m.
mymy said...

With what is happening to us in the mid-east plus, what do you think is going to happen when the killing of Bin Laden movie comes out=Obama Administration spiking the football again and again and again to ad nauseam.

September 17, 2012 at 1:04 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

ibshame: Not a birther. I think the man was born in HI....Question is, what did he put on his applications as "nationality". If the put U.S., fine. What's so secret?

September 17, 2012 at 1:09 p.m.
dude_abides said...

mymy said... "Got to act like a man to be treated as one. He has lace on his shorts as far as I am concerned! Just somebody else’s puppet!!"

OMMG! I didn't know we were talking about Romney!

September 17, 2012 at 1:29 p.m.
mymy said...

dude: is that the best you can come up with. We have a pansy in the WH.

Pansy=A person who acts sissy-like and is not manly enough. Sure likes his Mom jeans!

September 17, 2012 at 1:46 p.m.
acerigger said...

Judging from the winger comments it appears that Rick Santorum was spot on when he said "we(conservatives) will never have the smart people on our side".

September 17, 2012 at 2:01 p.m.
Leaf said...

Just reading this weekend's craziness. Man, TOES went psycho, huh? Very entertaining.

Jack_Dennis, you really should change your icon. Would you want your mother to see that? Shame on you.

September 17, 2012 at 2:35 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Jack_'s mother ran away when she saw that the placenta was cuter than her newborn. His avatar is his last memory of her as she bolted for the Harley.

September 17, 2012 at 3:17 p.m.
mymy said...

Sorry guys, it shows what Obama is doing to us---all of us!!!!

September 17, 2012 at 3:21 p.m.
ibshame said...

"Jack_Dennis said... ibshame: Not a birther. I think the man was born in HI....Question is, what did he put on his applications as "nationality". If the put U.S., fine. What's so secret?"

O.k. let's play this out. Mitt Romney asked all the people on his short list for VP to produce TEN YEARS of their tax returns when he was considering them as his VP pick. So they all did. Paul Ryan told the media he would release TWO YEARS of his tax returns to the public just as Mitt Romney had done, but he gave Mitt Romney 10 YEARS. Now I'm more interested in why Romney would REQUIRE those he was considering for his VP to hand over TEN YEARS to him but he REFUSES to hand over TEN YEARS to the American Public. What's so SECRET? I consider evidence of his paying his fair share of taxes just as important as he did his VP picks. After all he's running for PRESIDENT not someone's VP pick.

You want to see President Obama's college application that he filled out more than 20 years ago. You want to know what Nationality he put down on his application. If he had put anything other than AMERICAN by now the whole world would know it and just as Larry Flynt offered a MILLION DOLLARS to anyone who could produce Mitt Romney's tax returns, I'm sure you and those like you would have found someone to produce Obama's college application. They certainly had no problem finding a dumba$$ sheriff in Arizona, a stupid looking fish-mouth Donald Trump and last but certainly not least a freaked out Orly Taitz to deny the REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATES (LONG AND SHORT FORMS) President Obama produced. Now there are some yahoos in Kansas trying to take his name off the ballot. The next time you wonder what's so secret about President Obama's college application, why not have that same level of curiousity about the last TEN YEARS of Mitt Romney's tax returns???

September 17, 2012 at 3:23 p.m.
dude_abides said...

mymy said... "dude: is that the best you can come up with. We have a pansy in the WH. Pansy=A person who acts sissy-like and is not manly enough. Sure likes his Mom jeans!"

mymy... christ on a jet ski, I was referring to Mitt's Mormon panties.

September 17, 2012 at 3:25 p.m.
dude_abides said...

"When you give a speech you don't go through a laundry list, you talk about the things that you think are important." –Mitt Romney, when asked about failing to mention the troops in his nomination speech at the Republican National Convention, Fox News interview (Sept. 7, 2012)

September 17, 2012 at 3:41 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Jack_Dennis said: “Why do you want to impose YOUR beliefs on Paul Ryan?”

Huh? I’m not the one trying to create laws to force Paul Ryan to bear the child of a rapist. Unlike Paul Ryan, I belive this decision belongs solely to the rape victim.

Jack_Dennis said: “Do you think abortion after rape/incest should be the top drawer issue in campaign? I guess it beats talking about the economy.”

You’re the one who brought up Ryan’s “deep religious views." I merely pointed out one of the obvious discrepancies in his so-called “deep religious views.” But, perhaps, you didn’t realize the Catholic Popes have condemned the neo-cons’ “preemptive” approach to wars. In fact, I recall Ryan’s Pope saying that Bush’s preemptive invasion of Iraq had no moral justification.

Personally, I seriously doubt that Paul Ryan has any deep religious views when it comes to sanctity of life – and we all know how Ryan feels about the poor. Speaking of the poor, I also recall Ryan’s Catholic bishops repudiating his budget plans to cut hunger and nutrition programs that aid the poor and working-class Americans – so much for Ryan’s “deep religious views.”

“In an interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network’s David Brody this month, Ryan, the author of the House Republican budget endorsed by Mitt Romney, said his program was crafted “using my Catholic faith” as inspiration. But the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops was not about to bless that claim.

A week after Ryan’s boast, the bishops sent letters to Congress saying that the Ryan budget, passed by the House, “fails to meet” the moral criteria of the Church, namely its view that any budget should help “the least of these” as the Christian Bible requires: the poor, the hungry, the homeless, the jobless. “A just spending bill cannot rely on disproportionate cuts in essential services to poor and vulnerable persons,” the bishops wrote. . .

. . . “Your budget,” a group of Jesuit scholars and other Georgetown University faculty members wrote to Ryan last week, “appears to reflect the values of your favorite philosopher, Ayn Rand, rather than the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Her call to selfishness and her antagonism toward religion are antithetical to the Gospel values of compassion and love.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/paul-ryans-faith-based-lesson/2012/04/27/gIQAH76TlT_story.html

September 17, 2012 at 3:45 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

tu_: The left knew the proper context.^^^They were just doing as ordered by the Chicago thugs.

September 17, 2012 at 4:34 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Only tu_ could describe tu_ to a T.

September 17, 2012 at 4:37 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Never claimed any such thing, you wraith.

Tell me what he meant, tu_. Oh, you mean like an illegitimate rapture? LMAO

September 17, 2012 at 4:41 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Marxist Rapture, what a concept. I guess the most pious among us would experience velocirapture? Would a Marxist take Communionism? L

September 17, 2012 at 5:05 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

duped-again: The fact that you want to touch Obama where he pees is proof that your "I.Q." is lower than absolute zero. Did your mommy have to tie pork chops to your neck just to get the dog to play with you? I bet she did.

September 17, 2012 at 5:29 p.m.
Easy123 said...

sTUpid,

You must be reminiscing about your first time with TOES and his "dog".

September 17, 2012 at 5:40 p.m.
dude_abides said...

tu_... I read that, like you did, how even thumb drives would be unnecessary, etc. Yawn. I think you'll find "hack" used in many many ways. I put myself in Franklin because the original news story involved an inside abettor. BTW, in situ doesn't really mean for a person to be in a place, more likely you'd say "I, discovered this artifact in situ." Or, "should we examine the faulty device at the lab, or in situ?" But, maybe you should check with someone more erudite than myself to see if you can get away with that contextual risk. But that's just ole me... crone.

Toes... You are an absolute juggernaut of witticism. Did you think that pork chop joke up, because that's just... wow, you know? Does your wife talk about her boss much, toes?

September 17, 2012 at 5:51 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Wow, just hit toes for the stale, middle school humor and tu_ does the 'ran down the leg' joke. Really? At least put a little effort into it! Christ, maybe you did.

September 17, 2012 at 5:56 p.m.
dude_abides said...

tu_... couldn't agree more. I will note, though, that is exactly what you did with Ryan's words with your first text! Twice today you've soiled your Depends.

September 17, 2012 at 6:02 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Wow duped! Just brilliant!! Whew!! I got TOLD! HAHA!! GOOD ONE!! Not.

September 17, 2012 at 6:03 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Odd and familiar? Then why did you use it that way? Yes, I knew they would articulate the gist of your mistake better than I. Odd and familiar? So you wouldn't have gone there unless you had this hunch you had seen it there before? LOL You trash me for doing what you did, but you had to admit doing it to trash me! You should have busted me on using the word text rather than post, but...

September 17, 2012 at 6:19 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Easy, back from NYC so soon? How was the OWS reunion?

September 17, 2012 at 6:19 p.m.
dude_abides said...

toes... don't.

September 17, 2012 at 6:20 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JackTroll,

Wrong again.

Shaving your mom's back is turning into a full-time job. :-)

September 17, 2012 at 6:26 p.m.
dude_abides said...

tu_es02800 had to explain because it was B.S. to begin with... "I think he chose his words carefully and correctly. He was using them in the pejorative sense as identifying a... blah, blah, blah."

September 17, 2012 at 6:29 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Yu_ can believe whatever makes you feel better. "Odd & familiar, so I checked with a sight that I'm completely unfamiliar with..." LOFL

Thanks for the compliment on my vocaba... voc... vacabil... lexi... word thing.

September 17, 2012 at 6:37 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Dang, it was just reported that Mitt told a get-together of wealthy donors earlier this year that half the American people consider themselves victims! Is it possible to bet on an election and give the other candidate points? I might give Mitt two touchdowns at this rate! Maybe a video of this???

September 17, 2012 at 6:45 p.m.
dude_abides said...

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/secret-video-romney-private-fundraiser

lol The point, tu_mercurial, is that you were explaining his statement in the way you had busted me for. Doesn't matter which right wing hack we're speaking of.

See, I even used 'hack' in another context!

September 17, 2012 at 7:03 p.m.
dude_abides said...

The problem is that Mitt sets the number to reflect all Obama supporters. This is chauvinism on parade. If you don't agree with his politics, you're a lazy, self proclaimed victim. The video is more damning than your 'cherry picked' sample.

September 17, 2012 at 7:17 p.m.
fairmon said...

Obama insist he inherited a real mess when elected. He hasn't seen anything like he will inherit if he is re-elected. That is some more mess to step into with no one to blame but himself and those who elected him.

September 17, 2012 at 7:27 p.m.
alprova said...

Ask dude_abides, and ye shall receive...

"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it."

"That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax."

"My job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."

September 17, 2012 at 7:29 p.m.
fairmon said...

The truth will not win an election....It is not what people want to hear.

September 17, 2012 at 7:40 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Plot line! Yes! Santorum does a ton of dramatization.

"It makes it mighty damn difficult to carry on a conversation with a loon, such as you, that can’t keep the cast of characters or the plot line straight." < This not whole sentence, BW.

September 17, 2012 at 7:40 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Tu_quoque said Romney said: “There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. There are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it.

Mitt Romney doesn’t seem to be able to get anything right. . . sigh. If he's going to mouth off, he should at least make the effort to get the basics:

"53.6 percent of households in the U.S. pay the federal income tax.

28.3 percent of households pay no federal income tax, but they do pay the payroll tax. That means they don’t need Mitt Romney to convince them to “take personal responsibility and care for their lives.” They already have jobs. Most of the households in this group don’t pay any federal income tax because they qualify for enough deductions that their income tax liability has shrunk to zero. See this Tax Policy Center report for more, which gives an example of “a couple with two children earning less than $26,400. They get an $11,600 standard deduction and four exemptions of $3,700, and that takes their liability to zero.”

10.3 percent of households pay no federal income tax because they’re retired and elderly. Many retirees aren’t taxed on their Social Security benefits, which they earned by paying into the system over many years. If Mitt Romney secretly thinks that these households are all irresponsible freeloaders, he has a weird way of showing it, as he keeps insisting that he doesn’t want to cut Medicare or Social Security benefits for those over the age of 65.

That leaves 6.9 percent of households which are non-elderly and have incomes less than $20,000 per year and aren’t paying the payroll tax. These poorer households pay neither income taxes nor payroll taxes. Perhaps Romney thinks that they should all pay more in federal taxes. It’s hard to say. But this is also a much smaller fraction of Americans.

Meanwhile, just as a reminder, the vast majority of Americans still pay state and local taxes — in fact, these taxes tend to be more regressive. When you add up all the different types of taxes, most income groups in the United States tend to pay an amount that’s roughly commensurate with their share of the national income."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/09/17/romney-my-job-is-not-to-worry-about-those-people/

September 17, 2012 at 7:54 p.m.
patriot1 said...

Obama believes and has said as much that his job is to "tell a story" that makes people feel good. harp is correct, much of the electorate don't want the truth they want to feel good. When the fed comes out with QE 3.0 and the market goes up people are supposed to feel good. When a person can get money via earned income credit and it exceeds what they may have had withheld, they are supposed to feel good. When the EBT card gets loaded up, feel good. I can go on and on. This can't continue folks, why is that so hard to understand?

September 17, 2012 at 8:21 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

A Muslim cleric hosting an Egyptian television show recently outlined his version of Islamic instructions for wife-beating. In another show, a cleric claimed that the Muslim Brotherhood, now governing Egypt, one day will rule the world.

Read more: Egypt's Islamic TV talks with iron Salafist - Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/16/egypts-islamic-tv-talkswith-iron-salafist/#ixzz26mBbZzO1 Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

But islam is such a peaceful religion.

September 17, 2012 at 8:23 p.m.
miraweb said...

I am reminded of Mitt's comments in Israel that seemed to imply that good fortune come from "cultural superiority."

He really seems to have this idea that if some people just had the "right" culture then, of course, they would be healthy, wealthy, and wise.

Mitt seems clueless that calling people "culturally inferior" might be offensive and, perhaps, not a good way to win friends, or elections.

It is a really weird concept and raises questions as to just exactly what the word culture means to Mitt. Mormon culture? White culture? Private school culture? Upper class culture?

Instead of admitting, perhaps with some gratitude and a little class, that he had real breaks in connections, family, education, and wealth - Mitt seems to be trying to prove (perhaps to himself) he must have hit a double when his life, without any doubt, started out on second base.

He's done well with what he was given. But it wasn't all "culture."

September 17, 2012 at 8:33 p.m.
miraweb said...

harp - Truth is exactly what people want to hear. That is precisely why Jon Stewart is so popular - and also why Jon is so funny.

September 17, 2012 at 8:37 p.m.
dude_abides said...

toes' Muslim cleric sounds like Mitt's buddy Pat Robertson, from what I read here the other day.

September 17, 2012 at 9:04 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Dude_abides said: "toes' Muslim cleric sounds like Mitt's buddy Pat Robertson, from what I read here the other day."

Speaking of clerics and preachers, I noted we now have a Modesty Matters organization:

"WASHINGTON, DC — Literature being handed out at the Values Voter Summit on Friday attacks women for being “immodest” and extolled them to “go home and put some clothes on!”

In flyers and brochures on display at Values Voters, the social conservative conference where Republican Vice Presidential nominee Paul Ryan spoke, an organization called Modesty Matters criticized women for dressing “immodestly” at church, and blamed women for causing men to stare lustfully at them."

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/09/14/851401/values-voters-women/

September 17, 2012 at 9:19 p.m.
dude_abides said...

GOT Grand Old Taliban

September 17, 2012 at 9:34 p.m.
fairmon said...

miraweb said... harp - Truth is exactly what people want to hear. That is precisely why Jon Stewart is so popular - and also why Jon is so funny.

I don't think he is funny at all, talking loud and being sarcastic isn't entertaining to me. I don't think he addresses some critical issues that people need to hear the truth about.

September 18, 2012 at 2:32 a.m.
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