published Thursday, September 20th, 2012

Bible's explicitness takes precedence and other letters to the Editors

Bible's explicitness takes precedence

I believe when the Bible has an explicit teaching on a subject, this overrules how we interpret God's attributes to apply to that subject. This is easily seen in the issue of same-sex marriage. The human argument says God endorses love, even between two people of the same sex. But in both the Old Testament and the New Testament, God explicitly condemns homosexual activity — not the person, but the act.

I believe my Democratic-voting Christian brothers and sisters are misguided. Two planks in the Democratic Party platform are inconsistent with Scripture: support for abortion and support for same-sex marriage. I am fully aware of the arguments that espouse these planks. But those arguments are human interpretations that are in conflict with explicit, God-given statements of how we should live. Again, where the Bible is explicit on an issue, we cannot use human interpretation of God's attributes to believe something different.

DENNIS URBANIAK, Signal Mountain

Do you feel safe with MOX fuel?

The Times Free Press reported (Sept. 8) that a meeting was held by TVA to discuss using MOX fuel at Sequoyah and Browns Ferry nuclear power plants. The Department of Energy wants TVA to dispose of 34 metric tons of plutonium because of an agreement signed with the Russians in 2000. The plutonium will come from dismantling nuclear warheads. Duke Power reported they tried to burn this MOX blend at the Catawba Nuclear Plant and after a short time suspected it bowed the fuel rods due to its intense heat. Duke Power stated it wouldn't resume burning MOX fuel.The government will make the fuel at the Department of Energy's Savannah River site in South Carolina.

As a country, we constantly worry that a terrorist group will somehow sneak a suitcase bomb containing plutonium into the country and do insurmountable devastation. TVA and the DOE want to bring 34 metric tons of plutonium into the Tennessee Valley after it's mixed with uranium at the South Carolina plant. The experts say it's safe to burn, but it burns hotter. TVA demonstrated it could barely handle the coal-ash problem in Kingston. How would TVA handle a meltdown at Sequoyah using MOX fuel? How safe do you feel?

DON BEARD, Ooltewah

Banquet misses anniversary by year

Publicity recently identified proposed inductees to the Chattanooga High School Hall of Fame and announced the upcoming date of an induction banquet.

The story (Sept. 14, Life section) also said the event would recognize the 50th anniversary of the opening of the school building in North Chattanooga. That would mean the move from Third Street to Dallas Road and the opening of the new building was in 1962. Not so.

As a student who entered that first fall "on the hill," I would like to point out that it was in the fall of 1963 that Col. Creed Bates welcomed us to the new school plant from which he retired at the end of the year, in 1964.

Whether you use new math or old math, that location is 49 years old.

DAVID COOPER, Class of 1966

Pick right leaders for government

The Chattanooga Free Press missed an important point in its editorial Monday regarding the 225th anniversary of the U.S. Constitution. While our government is by the people, for the people, there is a specific way this is accomplished -- through our elected representatives. They are the people's voice. Unfortunately, voter turnout in the U.S. continues to decrease.

In 2008, voter turnout for our highest elected offices was just over 60 percent. Turnout decreases significantly at the state, county and city levels. If we are unhappy with what our government is doing, if we want to protect our Constitution, then we have an obligation to vote for the candidates who best reflect our ideology. Voting conveys the people's voice. It is the vigilance the editorial demands.


Evaluate teachers for effectiveness

What would happen in Hamilton County if our teachers decided to strike? Would we accept this, even if their school was failing? Would these teachers deserve higher wages and less time in the classroom? Should these teachers be held accountable for what their students learn?

In Chicago, this is what the teachers there are striking about. They want higher wages, work less hours, and not be evaluated. The problem is they are already paid over $76,000 a year. According to Chicago Teachers Fail, only 55 percent graduate from high school, 79 percent of 8th graders are reading below other 8th-grade students across the nation, work only 57,120 minutes per year.

As a parent of public-school students and a soon-to-be teacher, I am appalled. Teachers must be evaluated to determine their effectiveness, just as students have to be evaluated each year for what they have learned. Their pay should be based on their performance, not duration of employment.

Is the answer striking? No! I believe the answer is for teachers, parents and students to take responsibility. Not ask for more money and more time off. They deserve more!


Cartoon still offers positive thoughts

When I opened Sunday's paper and picked up the comic section, I did a double take when I saw "The Family Circus." Hmm, I thought, I've seen that before. And sure 'nuff I had. I had cut it out and put it on my refrigerator door all those years ago, because I liked what it "said," and I agreed.

I looked at both of the strips, comparing, and there were only a few differences. The first cartoon was dated March 26, 2000; it was signed by Bil Keane only; the strip was wider then, (before the pages were cropped to "cut expenses"), and of course, since then, the paper had become yellowed with age.

I will clip the new one and put it next to the old one on the frig because I still like what it says -- and I still agree. I appreciate the marvelous positive thoughts.


Is nail polish that important?

"Outrageous!" was my reaction to Monday's Life section article on Michelle Obama's nail polish at the Democrat Convention.

The Middle East is burning and we're to believe it's because of a movie. Is it possible it could be due to the Democrat Convention, when we were told by speaker after speaker that Osama is dead? I think that might have inflamed the Muslim world, with the 9/11 anniversary and the protesters there chanting "We're all Osamas now"? ... unless your intent is to take the focus away from the failed Obama foreign policy.

The Israeli prime minister would like to meet with the president, but Obama is too busy with appearances on TV and nonstop fundraisers.

Our national debt is $16 trillion. Our economy in shambles. The Federal Reserve announced plans to print $40 billion a month for the foreseeable future, hoping to stave off the fiscal disaster.

The first two years of the Obama administration, Democrats in control of House and Senate, Obama got everything he wanted passed. We are deep in debt, 23 million unemployed results of Obama's fiscal policy.

Those are just a few issues you might cover in your newspaper, or is nail polish that important?


Man-woman link is right formula

Truett Cathy, CEO of Chick-fil-A, is a David among Goliaths and has my support and admiration. It seems advocates of traditional marriage are now the ones trying to come out of the closet.

In this current atmosphere of political correctness, any opposing view favoring biblical marriage is relegated to the darkest corner of the closet, hopefully well hidden under layers of accumulated dust and articles on liberal enlightenment for the unwashed, illiterate masses like me.

As a marriage veteran of 42 years, I started "basic training" in 1970 in my parents' East Ridge home (where I now reside), with no job and no sense. Little did I know the pains and joys that awaited me. I cherish this grand institution, as do so many other Chattanoogans, and add my little candle to Mr. Cathy's as well as to Mitt Romney's -- the Republican candidate for president.

So say what you will, live as you will, my friends, believe what you will, traditional marriage is still the single most highly esteemed and honored mystical symbol of Christ's relationship to His church, as recorded in Ephesians 5 in the Holy Bible.

Marriage between a man and a woman doesn't automatically guarantee nuptial happiness, but it's still the right formula for it.


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DENNIS URBANIAK, you're assuming that the Bible is the direct and unaltered Word of God. But...which Bible? How sure are you that you have the correct version?

And even Jesus had a few things to say about taking the Bible literally while ignoring its spirit. I guess your version excludes those parts.

DON BEARD, quite unsafe, thanks to Chicken Littles like you.

ANITA KOHLIN, nope, you won't find many people in the Muslim world who look up to Osama who didn't know he was dead and who learned it after the Democratic Convention. Sorry. Your other statements are also false. Sorry, but the Israeli Prime Minister didn't follow protocol. Apparently he expected the president of the United States to be at his beck and call. Maybe he should be a bit less presumptuous. Or maybe you should stop letting a foreigner influence our election. And the 23 million unemployed? Yeah, why don't you try the Bush Fiscal policies that caused unemployment to be going up when Obama took office. And no, he didn't get every law he wanted passed, even if he had, it does take time for policies to go into effect. Believe it or not, he doesn't have a Magic Wand.

VICKI KELLER, actually, from my experience, it's the people who demand their view of Biblical marriage who are on the streets proclaiming what they want for others, and only pretending to be victims because they think it gets them sympathy.

Really doesn't work though, you're just a typical bully complaining that you're the one being oppressed.

September 20, 2012 at 3:11 a.m.
Ozzy87 said...

HWNB, did you ever notice the ones screeching like a banshee over gays getting married are the ones who cherry-pick around the scriptures concerning divorce? Besides the fact they can't get it through their thick skulls that the Constitution, not the Bible, is the ruling document of this country.

September 20, 2012 at 6:21 a.m.
Yano said...

The Bible says, explicitly and by example, that marriage is between a man and multiple women. The Bible also says explicitly that a widow must marry her brother in law. The Bible also says explicitly that a woman must marry her rapist. The Bible also says explicitly that a woman may not divorce her abuser.

It should not even occur to any decent modern person to impose this stone age crap on their fellow human beings.

Some people are raised in a way that causes them to entangle their entire identity, their entire sense of self-worth, with 2000 year old mythology. Well it is their right to do so. But in a free country like the USA, it is neither appropriate nor Constitutional for us to impose irrational "faith-based" beliefs onto our fellow citizens - not by having government pick a version and push it onto the public through official prayer, nor by basing laws on cherry-picked articles of "faith".

September 20, 2012 at 8 a.m.
LibDem said...

DENNIS URBANIAK, as Yano mentions, the Bible has many explicit admonitions. If you can assure me that you and your friends don't shop on the Sabbath, I'll believe that you are sincere. Otherwise, you may be looking for a complaint against Democrats.

September 20, 2012 at 9:03 a.m.
Lr103 said...

Yano said... The Bible says, explicitly and by example, that marriage is between a man and multiple women. The Bible also says explicitly that a widow must marry her brother in law. The Bible also says explicitly that a woman must marry her rapist. The Bible also says explicitly that a woman may not divorce her abuser

And a father could murder his child for being disobedient and his wife for being too mouthy and disrespectful to him. If God demanded a male sacrifice? No problem! Slew thy son in or to prove your obedience to God.

September 20, 2012 at 9:44 a.m.

'Bible's explicitness takes precedence'

'Man-woman link is right formula'

The Cost to Innocent Tax Payer Citizens Who Do Not Choose The Homosexual Lifestyle. Men Having Sex With Men Accounts For Approximately Three-Quaters of HIV/AIDS Diagnoses. The Cases of HIV diagnoses among Men Having Sex With Men is more than 44 times that of Heterosexual men. According to one study published by the CDC in 2010, one in five Men Having Sex With Men in the 21 cities surveyed has HIV and almost half are unaware of their status. The federal budget request for fiscal year 2011 included a total of $20.4 billion for domestic HIV and AIDS, a 4% increase from the fiscal year 2010 funding, which totaled $19.6 billion. Of this, 69 percent is for treatment, 13 percent for cash and housing assistance,and 4 percent for prevention. Each homosexual individual, on entitlements (multitudes) costs innocent American Taxpaying Citizens (us) at least $400,000 per lifetime case. Multiply that by 1000's of homosexuals. Lifestyle Choice. I Am Commanded by My Lord, God, and, Saviour, Jesus Christ, to Love Homosexual Individuals With The Love of God...And I Do! (For The Record).

September 20, 2012 at 1:53 p.m.

I should have begun above with the absolute Truth of The Lord God of Hosts, Jesus Christ, who created us male & female. Wife means female. Therefore the absolute Truth follows from Our Lord, God, and, Saviour's Holy Bible:

Romans 1-

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that, when they knew God, they glorified Him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful, Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them."


September 20, 2012 at 2:03 p.m.
tipper said...

I could understand the letter writer's point of view if we were a theocracy, but we are not. If the governments of the states or the nation choose to follow the Constitution as The Law of the Land and enact laws that run contrary to the Bible or Christianity, then so be it. Every Christian has a right to his or her beliefs and can follow their tenents, but those tenets and the laws enacted by a government are separate and are designed for the whole of the country's people.

September 20, 2012 at 2:19 p.m.
Easy123 said...


Your hatred of gays comes from the Bible and being molested/sexually assaulted by a male as a child. You should seek help immediately before this hatred consumes you. Your bigotry and misguided feelings towards homosexuals can be fixed with professional psychological/psychiatric care.

Get help, Ken Orr.

September 20, 2012 at 2:32 p.m.
Leaf said...

Orr, I might have read your post, but the sentence fragments and capitalization of the first letter of random words makes it so choppy and frantic that I couldn't stand it. What's that about?

September 20, 2012 at 4:54 p.m.

Easy123, I follow Jesus Christ's commandment and love every single homosexual individual in existence! Please let that be resolved in Your mind. kwo

Leaf, You are so right. I so badly want folks to hear the inflections in my 'voice', that i mess things up trying to get it across in print. I stand corrected and will use all of my willpower to 'stop it!', just 'stop it'. Somebody told me to quit irritating them by putting the word 'CONCLUSION' at the beginning of my comments, so, i took their advice/request, and, stopped it! Thank You, Leaf. Between Easy123, Daytonsdarwin, Happywithbulbs, JustOneWoman, Rickaroo, and on, and, on...i just may start getting things right in my life! +(:> kwo

September 20, 2012 at 11:08 p.m.
atomteori said...

Jesus was pretty clear about condemning other's sins when he said, "Get the log out of your own eye before you get the speck out of someone else's eye." It seems to me that if gay people can get married and stay married they are providing a better example for our young people than the 50% of straight people who get married and divorced and married and divorced and....... If we really want to protect the institution of marriage, maybe we should start with the real threat to marriage today: the skyrocketing divorce rate. I get a little disgusted to hear Christians talk about marriage as if it is all about sex. Anybody who's been successfully married knows better. I've been married to the same woman for over 27 years, and I intend to be with her long after our bones are too brittle to stand contact. Oh, sure, I don't really like seeing gay couples "locked up" in public, but I don't want to see anybody's grandparents "locked up" in public for the same reason. It's all about decency, not morality, and some of the comments I hear about gay people are so indecent it makes me sad. We are thrown into this world on the whim of a handful of chromosomes and a roll of the dice. It's insane to take stuff that we can't control and make it the most important part of our lives. Sometimes I feel like the whole world is insane. Okay, that was a rant, but I feel better now.

October 10, 2012 at 5:33 p.m.
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