published Thursday, April 4th, 2013

Seriously?

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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AndrewLohr said...

North Korea needs separation of atheism and state. So does the USA.

April 4, 2013 at 12:09 a.m.
betamax said...

@Andrew: wut? North Korea has freedom of religion. They all follow the Juche philosophy, but a little less than half follow a religion, Christianity included. As far as the USA is involved, well, we won't get into it.

April 4, 2013 at 12:31 a.m.
Bocephus75i said...

Now that's funny. Great job Clay!

April 4, 2013 at 4:11 a.m.
Cactus said...

The U.S. government created this pattern of behavior by North Korea. In the past, the little dog barked and the big dog gave him money and aid to shut him up. Are we going to continue feeding this little barking dog?

April 4, 2013 at 6:45 a.m.
conservative said...

Give us aid and we will curtail our nuclear program, give us aid and we will curtail our nuclear program, give us aid and....

April 4, 2013 at 7:02 a.m.
EaTn said...

If the big dog realized the little dog was infected with rabies, he may not be so cool and calm. Never underestimate an idiot with a gun, nor a dictator with a possible nuke.

April 4, 2013 at 7:12 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

WHY IS IT OUR PROBLEM?

China is getting annoyed. All this North Korean saber rattling is politically destabilizing which is bad for the region in general and business in particular.

Kim Jong Un is the divine leader because the military backed him, for a price. He's either capitulating to their agenda or letting the generals run the show outright. (Think Dick Cheney and George Bush.)

The danger right now is the sudden diplomatic disconnect with South Korea. North Korea has literally pulled the plug on the 'hot line' between the two countries. They've shut the only border crossing. What would you do if you shared a common border with Kim Jong Un? Wait for a nuke? Rest easy knowing America would respond AFTER mushroom clouds start appearing over your cities?

North Korea has always howled when the US and South Korea conducted military exercises. This time seems different, however, but no one knows to what extent. No one knows where this is going.

Like I said, China is getting annoyed.

April 4, 2013 at 9 a.m.
whatsnottaken said...

Good one.

April 4, 2013 at 9:05 a.m.
ibshame said...

I don't believe China will allow "lil Kim" to continue much longer. He's out to prove how tough he is to his generals but he can only take this rhetoric so far before China will step in and slap him down. He needs to start figuring out what other rabbits he can pull out of the hat to show his toughness but this particular tough guy act is going to end tragically for him if he's not careful.

April 4, 2013 at 9:20 a.m.
conservative said...

I agree with you AndrewLohr.

It would be very instructive if the vocal atheists and the practicing atheist were separated from God-fearing Americans.

I believe they would either quickly die or change their behavior.

They would have unrestrained sex with each other and die of their diseases for they would only have the use of their own money and would be unwilling to part with it to treat others believing they would escape the due penalties of their Godless behavior.

Drugs in the morning, drugs all day, until till there is not another day.

They would of course kill their unborn through abortion and so their kind would not be replenished.

Lawlessness would abound. Since murder begins in the mind and heart these atheist who are so full of hate would quickly use their guns to kill their own on an unprecedented level further diminishing their kind.

There would be no prisons for every one would be innocent, just let the murderers lose to aid in the killing and reduction of their kind.

No one would work, so starvation would further diminish their lot.

5 years max!

April 4, 2013 at 10:06 a.m.
conservative said...

Hey caddy,

That picture has always fascinated me. No electricty except the capital where the commies control.

Any pictures of the subjects eating bark?

April 4, 2013 at 10:15 a.m.
nucanuck said...

What exacly did North Korea do to provoke the tough new sanctions being imposed on their already perilously weak economy? Was it their failure to abandon their nukes? If so, why are not all nuclear armed countries under similar sanctions, including the good ol' USA?

How would we, or any country react to sanctions and constant military activity near their borders? I can only imagine the national outrage if we were subjected to similar treatment.

If the sanctions were dropped and North Korea were treated the same as other countries, the likelihood of North Korea attacking anyone drops to near zero, IMO.

Poke a stick at even a small dog often enough and eventually you will get a reaction.

April 4, 2013 at 10:21 a.m.
prairie_dog said...

When that guided missile cruiser off the coast of North Korea knocks down the first NK ballistic missile headed for a friendly target, you can thank all of the people who did something other than sit home and live fat off the benefits provided by the dedication and sacrifice of others.

That Golden Retriever is a big happy boy, but only because somebody else took good care of him.

April 4, 2013 at 10:25 a.m.
conservative said...

Hey nucanuck,

Just look at all of those fossil fuels not being burned in North Korea. You must be ecstatic.

April 4, 2013 at 10:28 a.m.
prairie_dog said...

Actually, a better cartoon would be to show Obama feeding steak to a pit bull while the German Shepherd guard dog is getting his rations cut.

April 4, 2013 at 10:40 a.m.
nucanuck said...

With Afghanistan winding down, many of the US military suppliers are facing possible cutbacks unless the US can gin up another war.

Gotta keep that MIC well oiled!

April 4, 2013 at 11:06 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

It would be very instructive if the vocal atheists and the practicing atheist were separated from God-fearing Americans.

on what grounds? And how does one be a "practicing" atheist? Like having no hobbies is a hobby, right?

They would have unrestrained sex with each other and die of their diseases for they would only have the use of their own money and would be unwilling to part with it to treat others believing they would escape the due penalties of their Godless behavior.

Almost all non-believers I know are in monogamous relationships (you know-"marriages") and are generous with what they have. So much for this falsehood.

Drugs in the morning, drugs all day, until till there is not another day.

I have never used illegal drugs. Heck, I never had a drink until two years after I came of age. Most non-believers I know do not break the law in this or any other way.

They would of course kill their unborn through abortion and so their kind would not be replenished.

All children are born atheists. They have to be taught religion.

Lawlessness would abound. Since murder begins in the mind and heart these atheist who are so full of hate would quickly use their guns to kill their own on an unprecedented level further diminishing their kind.

The only hate I see seems to come from religious zealots like you guys.

There would be no prisons for every one would be innocent, just let the murderers lose to aid in the killing and reduction of their kind.

Funny-the vast majority of the incarcerated in the US are Christian.

No one would work, so starvation would further diminish their lot.

So are the vast majority of those on welfare.

5 years max!

Not going to hold my breath on this one.

April 4, 2013 at 11:48 a.m.
prairie_dog said...

Hmmmm . . . let me see if I can remember . . . uh, wasn't it a guy named "Bush" or something who insisted on developing a ballistic missile defense system . . . Yeah, I think it was. Something about "rogue states" and 9/11.

April 4, 2013 at 12:29 p.m.
timbo said...

When I see religious nonsense injected for apparently no reason it makes me wonder if conservative and Andrew Lohr are true conservatives. What in the world this atheism have to do with anything here? That is just weird. You guys have to preach why don't you go out on a street corner somewhere and do

April 4, 2013 at 12:45 p.m.
limric said...

Kim Jong Un. The living embodiment of the cartoon character, ‘Eric Cartman’; lives not in South Park - but Pyongyang. ”RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH!”

So, after secretary of state Ketchup finishes his consultation in Arkansas with certain retail executives he’s going to bring along John ’Get off my lawn!’ McCain to China for …’talks’.

The good cop bad cop not faring as well as they had planned, Secretary Ketchup turns to McCain and says, “HEY. How about we borrow a hundred billion dollars from these guys and give it to Kim as good will?”. A growling McCain replies, "YEA that’s a great idea.” The enemy of the American people (Congress) applauds and gives a big thumbs up vote.

It is to be earmarked for oil from Saudi Arabia along with clothing, food & nick knacks from Wal Mart and new Jeep for Kim Jong Un. The US will get a ‘Low Prices - Always’ deal (but NO coupons) and send it as ‘aid’ to North Korea. Guess who gets to pay for it. :-)

Kim Jong Un loves his new ‘Kids Cuisines’, Batman action figures and last but not least – pot pies.

BOOM!!
“LUNCH?” Kim yells to his staff. – “I THOUGHT YOU SAID LAUNCH!!”

China must defend the north and the US must defend the south. Thousands of Wal Marts close across the country driving unemployment in the US to over 30%.

The End

>Alternative ending: Let’s Just fly Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld to China. That’ll wake em up; those two scare dead people! As a good faith measure, throw in a coterie of evangelical Christians to show we can be just as wacky as Kim and his gang.

Peace or war. Either way, Americans are going to pick up the tab.


No Prairie_dog, ballistic missile defense was started under Reagan. The initial idea was developed by science fiction writers. And by the way,the biggest rogue nation on the planet is??.....

April 4, 2013 at 12:46 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Prairie_dog,

No, it was Clinton.

April 4, 2013 at 12:48 p.m.
prairie_dog said...

Limric, and Easy123,

Reagan invented "Star Wars" in his addled brain, and George H. W. Bush advocated a missile system. Clinton began development and George W. Bush funded deployment. Anyone will tell you that the guy who put up the bucks is one the one who got it built.

And the biggest "rogue" nation is still Russia, with Iran, Pakistan and North Korea, plus probably some other one -- oh, yeah, Syria -- and places like Somalia tagging along. Whatever happened to Iraq,though? Didn't Saddam Hussein and his thugs sorta drop off the map. I wonder why that was . . .

April 4, 2013 at 1:13 p.m.
nucanuck said...

Is a rogue nation one that doesn't cuddle-up to the US?

April 4, 2013 at 1:22 p.m.
Easy123 said...

prairie_dog,

"Anyone will tell you that the guy who put up the bucks is one the one who got it built."

No, they won't. Only WingNuts that still think GW Bush was competent will make such statements.

"And the biggest "rogue" nation is still Russia"

Wrong. Russia doesn't meet the criteria for being a "rogue nation". You WingNuts are still fighting the Cold War. Russia isn't much of a threat to the United States or, for that matter, anyone.

"and places like Somalia tagging along."

Wrong. You might want to do some research on Somalia before you start calling one of the poorest countries in the entire world a "rogue state".

"Whatever happened to Iraq,though?"

Killing more Americans now than they ever have.

"Didn't Saddam Hussein and his thugs sorta drop off the map."

Saddam dropped off the map in 1992-1993. Kind of like his WMD's.

April 4, 2013 at 1:39 p.m.
limric said...

Still haven't figured out what the biggest rogue nation is yet?

And if I may ask. What makes Iran a rogue nation?

April 4, 2013 at 1:58 p.m.
Leaf said...

y'all so crazy. The ability to shoot down various types of incoming projectiles was developed over decades by many different scientists and engineers working for various agencies funded in various ways. That's how progress works. There was a need, and so solutions were developed. It's pointless to try to pin one person's name to it. Anyway, NK's medium range missiles are not ICBM's so it's not correct to try to associate them with "Star Wars" type missile defense.

April 4, 2013 at 2:26 p.m.
jesse said...

Any Nation that don't do like we say is "ROGUE" ,if you don't believe it just ask us!periot!!!

April 4, 2013 at 2:29 p.m.
Leaf said...

If you remember, Patriot missiles were shooting down Scuds during the first gulf war, during Bush Sr.'s presidency. The Guandong, or Longduckdong or whatever they call their medium range missile is more like a Scud.

April 4, 2013 at 2:29 p.m.
Leaf said...

How come rogue is a bad thing when you refer to nations and elephants and a good thing when you are talking about hockey moms?

April 4, 2013 at 2:31 p.m.
Leaf said...

I believe the first anti-missile system to start development was by the Brits during WW-II the day after the first German V-1 dropped on London.

April 4, 2013 at 2:34 p.m.
nucanuck said...

Does anyone think that North Korea has territorial goals beyond their own borders?

It's hard to imagine that they want anything beyond food and territorial security. Whether paranoia or reality they have felt threatened since the cease-fire some sixty years ago. We have treated North Korea as an enemy and maintained a heavy military presence near their border, perpetuating the feeling of a state of war. If we were to remove our troops and stop the constant military exercises off their coast, we might well find that the so called "problem" would defuse itself or at least become non-critical.

April 4, 2013 at 3:16 p.m.
Leaf said...

nucanuck,

Yes, definitely North Korea has territorial goals beyond their own borders. Beyond a shadow of a doubt their stated goal for sixty years has been to reunite with S Korea. (Conquer S. Korea) They have giant tunnels under the border filled with fleets of trucks and tanks to take their invading army into the South. All of their rhetoric and military training for decades has been focused on that one goal.

If we left S. Korea on Tuesday, it would belong to N. Korea on Wednesday.

April 4, 2013 at 3:27 p.m.
prairie_dog said...

Easy123,

When you only see one side of an issue, it makes you a shallow person with nothing to offer.

You're the first person I've heard defend Somalia. Wow. I think they need you there. You've got the makings of a fine Technical, if you've got the courage, and I'm betting you don't.

By the way, I'm one of the "wingnuts" that helped develop the Tomahawk missile, and I know a lot more about it than anyone who never bothered to do anything but read Rolling Stone.

April 4, 2013 at 4:01 p.m.
timbo said...

prairie_dog....nothing impresses slEasy321...she is intimidated by true achievement. She is a "google" expert on everything.

She is so predictable is isn't even funny....

April 4, 2013 at 4:42 p.m.
timbo said...

slEasy321... I am a "wingnut" who thinks that GW was the 2nd worst president in history. He spent too much, lied about Iraq, acted like a democrat, and generally mismanaged the government. I thought that no one could be worse.

Then came Obama who beat him in every category, he spends too much, lies about most everything, hates the 2nd amendment, acts like a socialist, and absolutely mismanages the government. He is worse than Bush.

Actually, being called a "wingnut" by someone like you, "the google queen" is an honor. If that makes me the opposite of you, I'm ecstatic.

April 4, 2013 at 4:47 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Prairie_dog,

Then why do you only look at one side of the issue?

I haven't defended Somalia. I stated that it doesn't meet the definition of a "rogue nation". Learn to read all the words.

Also, what does your experience with developing the Tomahawk Missle have to do with anything?

April 4, 2013 at 4:48 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Timboner,

You're demonstrably and patently ignorant. That is all.

April 4, 2013 at 4:49 p.m.
timbo said...

slEasy321....I am flattered. Another intelligent, incite full answer. I know your liberal partners in crime are very proud of you.

Thank goodness you are here to "school" us errant conservatives. We stand in awe of your.. errr..whatever it is you have.

At least I am demonstrative.

April 4, 2013 at 4:53 p.m.
timbo said...

Also, I think the world is about to end because I kind of agree with nucanuck. What moral authority do we have to tell anyone they can't have a nuclear weapon? We have thousands, our allies have thousands, India and Pakistan developed them without our consent, Israel has them in secret, etc. etc.

We should try and make sure they don't get them but let's no be hypocritical about it. It is what we want, not what is necessarily right.

That chihuahua is about testicle high to that US dog and could reach up a bite us which could conventionally wreak havoc on Seoul costing thousands of lives. Yea, we would beat them like a government mule but it be at a huge cost.

April 4, 2013 at 5:05 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Woo! Hoo! The war pigs are in full throat today! I oinked you so! President Oink's legacy is saving us! I oinked a Tomahawk missile! Maybe all atheists should be oinked by God fearing Christians! What a bunch of shrill, squealing, mud caked, self important, disability check cashing swine.

April 4, 2013 at 6:07 p.m.
jesse said...

Ya can always count on Dude to take the conversation to a new level! Thoughtful ,insightful posts that get right to the heart of the matter!

April 4, 2013 at 7:04 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Timboner,

I appreciate your willingness to prove my point. I pity any offspring you might have fathered along the way.

April 4, 2013 at 7:21 p.m.
degage said...

Easy, WE hope you never have any offspring.

April 4, 2013 at 9:18 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Degage,

Too late, my hypocritical contemporary.

Who else are you speaking for?

April 4, 2013 at 9:22 p.m.
dude_abides said...

jesse... I'm sorry. I've obviously mischaracterized you. You have direct deposit, don't you?

April 4, 2013 at 9:42 p.m.
prairie_dog said...

Easy123,

Let's discuss your qualifications to discuss anything having to do with defense or technology.

I DID give Clinton credit for beginning the ABM program. It was the right decision.

A person's political affiliation should not be the primary concern when it comes to keeping the country safe.

Somalia is run by rogues and pirates. Sure, they're poor, but how many ships have been taken over by Russians in the past 10 years? The willingness of the people to die for their cause is the important thing. Somalis may not have anything to live for, but guess what? The most dangerous thing on this planet is a man who has nothing left to live for.

April 4, 2013 at 9:58 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Prairie_dog,

"Let's discuss your qualifications to discuss anything having to do with defense or technology."

Let us.

"I DID give Clinton credit for beginning the ABM program. It was the right decision."

Only after you gave "a guy named 'Bush' " all the credit and I corrected you.

"A person's political affiliation should not be the primary concern when it comes to keeping the country safe."

Typically, political affiliation is the only thing people are concerned about.

"Somalia is run by rogues and pirates."

They are not "run by rogues and pirates". Somalia is taking the common, scenic route to democracy.

"Sure, they're poor, but how many ships have been taken over by Russians in the past 10 years?"

These "ships" aren't military vessels. They are cargo ships and personal boats. A group of teenagers with .22's could do the very same thing in any port or off any coast in the world.

"The willingness of the people to die for their cause is the important thing."

A lot of people are willing to die for a lot of causes. That doesn't make the country a "rogue nation".

"Somalis may not have anything to live for, but guess what?"

WTF are you talking about? I'm sure plenty of Somali's have a lot to live for. The pirates you mentioned probably do too or they wouldn't be trying to capture these boats and people to hold them for ransom.

Do you really expect people to take you seriously when you make statements like that?

"The most dangerous thing on this planet is a man who has nothing left to live for."

You must just like to look at the words as you type them. Somalia isn't a "rogue nation". It would have been a lot easier for you to just admit that instead of trying to come up with your insane "Somalis may have nothing to live for" line and trying to wrongly justify your inclusion of them on your list.

The United States helped build their military. They have no nuclear capabilities. They barely have a central government. But, according to you, the fact that they have "pirates" make them a "rogue nation".

Get real.

April 4, 2013 at 11:24 p.m.
fairmon said...

Rouge means dishonest and unprincipled. How many countries or governments are not rogues? Easy 123, you say Russia is not a rogue nation and not a threat? What are you smoking? Why does South Korea need our help? Could it be because we have caused them to be as dependent on our government as we have done to many in our own country? Is it time to tell South Korea with their flourishing economy to grow up and take care of yourself. Is it time to tell them they will have to pay for our help and our being their protector?

April 5, 2013 at 1:09 a.m.
Easy123 said...

fairmon,

"Rouge means dishonest and unprincipled."

"Rogue nation" doesn't mean that. You can't just mold these phrases into whatever you see fit.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/rogue+nation

"Easy 123, you say Russia is not a rogue nation and not a threat? What are you smoking?"

Correct. Russia is not a rogue nation and they are not a threat. I'm not smoking anything. In what way is Russia a threat to the United States of America? What decade do you people live in? The United States has a more stable relationship with Russia now than it has in the last 50 years. Russia isn't who we should worry about. It's all the "mini-USSR's" like North Korea and Iran.

April 5, 2013 at 1:45 a.m.
nucanuck said...

Fairmon, I would go further and say we don't need to continue to station troops in South Korea, period. We never should have stayed for sixty years.

South Korea has one of the strongest economies in the world with world class industries dominating vital sectors. While we spend our money on military might, they spend theirs developing companies that out-compete ours. As I have said before, world war III is economic, not military. The real war may end before we even find the battlefield.

How can the US continue to get bogged down confronting smallish countries like North Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Iran while our real competiters are vying for expanded commerce? Instead of making history, we are becoming history.

Shooting wars are for dummies!

April 5, 2013 at 2:03 a.m.
alprova said...

South Korea is a dynamic trading partner with the United States. They are not trying to compete with us. In fact, they are providing tens of thousands of jobs right here in the United States and it's going to get better.

They have been paying for our alliances for decades.

South Korea is the United States’ seventh largest goods trading partner. We were number one, before the global recession.

U.S. exports to South Korea are estimated to rise $3.3 billion to $4 billion under a new agreement signed just last month.

Under the agreement, tariffs for non-agricultural goods imported into South Korea from the United States are to be slashed or eliminated altogether, which will boost U.S. employment. Machinery and equipment, 80% of all exports from the United States, are expected to rise by one-third current levels.

South Korea is poised to welcome U.S. financial services, express delivery services, legal consulting and accounting services, health care and education.

America exported $7.3 billion more in private services to South Korea than we imported from South Korea. This is expected to rise significantly, giving American companies additional access to South Korea's $580 billion market.

70,000 U.S. jobs are expected from the increase in goods exports to South Korea.

South Korea, out of all our allies, is probably just about the best friend the United States has.

April 5, 2013 at 3:14 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova..your rant sounds like South Korea can pay for their own defense without our involvement beyond selling them arms and equipment. Expect in one hand and crap in the other and see which gets full first if you think the deal with South Korea will create more U.S. jobs than S.K. jobs.

April 5, 2013 at 5:11 a.m.
fairmon said...

easy123 definition from your source......

rogue nation - a state that does not respect other states in its international actions.

and you conclude that.... Russia is not a rogue nation and they are not a threat.

A nation does not have to be a threat to the U.S. to be a rogue nation. No, we are no longer in a cold war with Russia and there is not an ongoing threat of a nuclear attack but they are a rogue nation. Consider their threat to shut off Europe's access to energy sources, their assistance to Iran and various other overt activities. Putin has not forgotten his KBG experience and will damage the U.S. at every opportunity.

April 5, 2013 at 5:27 a.m.
Easy123 said...

fairmon,

"but they are a rogue nation."

No, they are not.

"Consider their threat to shut off Europe's access to energy sources"

That remains to be seen. Other countries are dependent on Russia for resources like natural gas. The fact that Russia remains a supplier at all would take them out of the running for a title like "rogue nation".

"their assistance to Iran"

That would seem to contradict the definition of "rogue nation" as well.

"and various other overt activities."

What a detailed response!

"Putin has not forgotten his KBG experience and will damage the U.S. at every opportunity."

Regardless of what you think about Putin, nothing you've said thus far would lead any rational person to believe Russia is a "rogue nation".

You WingNuts really let the Cold War get to your heads.

April 5, 2013 at 7:21 a.m.
degage said...

Off topic, Obama and several other staffers taking a 5% cut in pay. Good for them. The same day he announced it he spent 180,000 dollars an hour on Air force one to fly to S F For a fund raiser with democrat billionaires. Taxpayers Paid the tab for that fund raiser that more than likely didn't generate as much money as it cost.

April 5, 2013 at 7:40 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Degage,

We have a fine accompaniment of cheeses to accent your whine selection this evening.

When you WingNuts can't conjure up anything real, you proceed to bitch about the most inane, trivial things. Presidents fly on Air Force 1. Remove the spruce from your rectum, realize that your indignation is ridiculous, and get over it.

For some reason, I doubt you were saying any of this bullsh*t when the President was a white Republican.

April 5, 2013 at 8:33 a.m.
jesse said...

Easy, could you give us some examples of what you consider "rogue" nations?

If N.Korea isn't rogue then maybe there aren't any!

April 5, 2013 at 8:49 a.m.
degage said...

The media didn't advertise every move Bush made like they do Obama, and we are not talking about Bush. Obama is the one using taxpayer money to raise funds even tho he is not running again. And yes, I am indignant about this because he wants the people to think how great he is for taking a 20,000 dollar a year cut then proceeds to spend like a drunken sailor.

Easy, The race card is uncalled for anymore. But then I understand why it is used, if you can't find anything else to say, play the race card.

April 5, 2013 at 8:50 a.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "alprova..your rant sounds like South Korea can pay for their own defense without our involvement beyond selling them arms and equipment."

Clearly, you don't know how to recognize the difference between a rant and a rave.

South Korea pays the United States about $700 million each year for our military presence, or about $28,000 per soldier, in addition to the trade that exists between our two nations. Look it up. I did.

"Expect in one hand and crap in the other and see which gets full first if you think the deal with South Korea will create more U.S. jobs than S.K. jobs."

South Korea's unemployment rate stands currently at three and a half percent. Their economy is growing at a pace that is twice what ours is. Seems to me that we need them a whole lot more than they need us, economically.

I have a family member who served in South Korea, who has hundreds of stories about his time there. The one common theme in all of them, involves complete and undying support by the locals there.

Now some of you folks can sit there in your armchairs and second guess everything, while oozing your negativity as it has come to define you, but I refuse to be infected with it.

When it comes to South Korea, that nation has earned our support and alliance each and every one of the past 60 some odd years.

April 5, 2013 at 9:03 a.m.
alprova said...

Easy123 wrote: "For some reason, I doubt you were saying any of this bullsh*t when the President was a white Republican."

Touché, for sure.

I remember being stopped in traffic in Atlanta for an hour during GWB's tenure to make way for his procession from Hartsfield to a fund raiser at a private home in Cobb County.

Every President does it, but President Obama has been severely criticized at every opportunity, for practically anything and everything.

I tend to laugh at those who offer such tidbits anymore.

April 5, 2013 at 9:14 a.m.
alprova said...

Easy123 wrote: "For some reason, I doubt you were saying any of this bullsh*t when the President was a white Republican."

Touché, for sure.

I remember being stopped in traffic in Atlanta for an hour during GWB's tenure to make way for his procession from Hartsfield to a fund raiser at a private home in Cobb County.

Every President does it, but President Obama has been severely criticized at every opportunity, for practically anything and everything.

I tend to laugh at those who offer such tidbits anymore.

No President used Air Force One any more than GWB did. No One.

April 5, 2013 at 9:14 a.m.
limric said...

I find it quite alarming to see that no one can, or has the courage to; identify the world’s greatest rogue nation.
Such obtuseness reminds me of Bush looking for WMD’s under the furniture in the White House. ’A rogue nation has got to be around here somewhere.’

Here’s a couple of hints:
It’s a country that refuses to sign international treaties (like the International Criminal Court), ignores UN resolutions while at the same time demanding that everyone else play by the rules.

It is a country whose great ally is the largest source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide and is a direct financial supporter for the likes of al-Qaeda, the Taliban and a host of other terrorist groups.

You will obey us while we lead you

And eat the garbage that we feed you

Until the day that we don't need you

Don't call for help...no one will heed you

Your mind is totally controlled

It has been stuffed into our mold

And you will do as you are told

Until the rights to you are sold……

*Paraphrased from, 'I Am the Slime' by Frank Zappa


Prairie_Dog, I wouldn’t put North Korea in the ‘rogue nation’ category. Paranoid, extortionists, you betcha.

April 5, 2013 at 9:19 a.m.
patriot1 said...

Easy....do YOU think the ole USA is a rogue nation?

April 5, 2013 at 9:27 a.m.
alprova said...

degage wrote: "The media didn't advertise every move Bush made like they do Obama, and we are not talking about Bush."

Of course not. Because if comparisons were made to the former Republican President, it would illustrate just how silly your complaint really is.

"Obama is the one using taxpayer money to raise funds even tho he is not running again."

Sir, fund-raising efforts occur all the time. Presidents are invited to appear that them all the time. Every President makes appearances at them while in office.

Why should the current President be any different? Oh...that's right...he's a Democrat.

"And yes, I am indignant about this because he wants the people to think how great he is for taking a 20,000 dollar a year cut then proceeds to spend like a drunken sailor."

I would have been more impressed if he had personally declared that he was giving back 50% of his salary, but hey...he didn't have to give back a dime.

I will forever remind you that the President spends not one dime. Congress approves and spends every penny. Your indignant condemnation is highly misplaced, as usual.

"Easy, The race card is uncalled for anymore. But then I understand why it is used, if you can't find anything else to say, play the race card."

In the absence of anything else to explain why it is that the President is held to a different standard than they hold others to, race really is all there is left as the only motivating factor.

Some things are so obvious that they tend to slap you across the face.

I can only imagine the level of criticism Hillary Clinton will have to endure because she is a female, but she is currently a Caucasian, so I'm sure that some people will be appeased somewhat that the White House is white once again.

April 5, 2013 at 9:30 a.m.
alprova said...

I think I've figured out where Limrick is going.

He's right as rain too.

Ask the rest of the world what they think of this particular nation.

April 5, 2013 at 9:34 a.m.
nucanuck said...

alprova, SK is certainly a strong US ally. That fact is not a rationale for leaving troops in place for sixty years nor does it negate that SK has been a rough and tough competitor for our leading industries. You may remember when the SK government subsidized the construction of vastly more IT processor capacity than the world was thought to need. SK then proceeded to be the world price leader in the field until they dominated it. Apple now orders their core iphone technology from Samsung. not Intel.

SK, like many other countries, has massaged the value of their currency to suit national goals and achieve a competitive advantage.

My prior WW III comment refers to world commerce, and was not intended to target only South Korea.

April 5, 2013 at 10:52 a.m.
timbo said...

slEasy321...I might have hundreds of offspring because I lived you kind of lifestyle when I was single. I have two kids that I claim.

I have decided that you are just trying, and I emphasize TRYING, to be funny. No one could be as ignorant, crazy and stupid as you. You are probably a conservative that is a double agent. You are so nuts that you want us other conservatives to think that all liberals are like you. Actually they are similar but you sort of stand out as the dumbest writer on this page. You couldn't be real.

See you at the next Tea Party meeting. Keep up the good work.

April 5, 2013 at 11:02 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Timboner,

"I have two kids that I claim."

I pity those two.

I have decided that you are just trying, and I emphasize TRYING, to be funny. No one could be as ignorant, crazy and stupid as you. You are probably a liberal that is a double agent. You are so nuts that you want us other liberals to think that all conservatives are like you. Actually they are similar but you sort of stand out as the dumbest writer on this page. You couldn't be real.

Kind of amazing how that fits you to a T. Truly an instance of psychological projection. You've officially become self-aware! Also, I guarantee you that you have plagiarized that paragraph from non-WingNuts like ALPROVA and others. Hell, I've made similar remarks about you and your ilk! Get your own material, timboner!

"See you at the next Tea Party meeting. Keep up the good work."

I don't attend Klan meetings. Keep taking time out of your day to prove me right, timmy.

April 5, 2013 at 11:42 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

All of this hand wringing about a US federal government meddling in the affairs of other nations is comical. Progressives advocate for a powerful government that has gotten into the habit of trying to control everything and everyone it can find. Now they are disappointed when the monster they have created tramples on the little dog. Progressive republicans and democrats created the bully on the block. If only you would stop insisting that a big overreaching federal government will finally work this time, if only the right people are put in charge. Give me a break.

April 5, 2013 at 11:58 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

I see Easy is just as obnoxious and irrelevant as ever.

April 5, 2013 at 12:07 p.m.
Easy123 said...

BRP,

Ditto. Add in "illogical" and "whiney" though. That pretty much rounds out your entire Internet persona.

April 5, 2013 at 1:14 p.m.
timbo said...

slEasy321...You are really getting desperate by using my own words to answer my own words...duh. I think you have typing turrets syndrome.

Excuse me, I should have said the communist party meetings. My mistake..

April 5, 2013 at 2:51 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

nucanuck said...

“What exacly did North Korea do to provoke the tough new sanctions being imposed on their already perilously weak economy? Was it their failure to abandon their nukes? If so, why are not all nuclear armed countries under similar sanctions, including the good ol' USA?

How would we, or any country react to sanctions and constant military activity near their borders? I can only imagine the national outrage if we were subjected to similar treatment.

If the sanctions were dropped and North Korea were treated the same as other countries, the likelihood of North Korea attacking anyone drops to near zero, IMO.

Poke a stick at even a small dog often enough and eventually you will get a reaction.”


I guess you can write it off as history repeating itself in that part of the world. It’s the same scenario that was played out prior to WW2 when the U.S. provoked Japan to attack us because we would not allow them to operate freely in their sphere of influence in Asia.

Right?

April 5, 2013 at 3:23 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

nucanuck said...

“With Afghanistan winding down, many of the US military suppliers are facing possible cutbacks unless the US can gin up another war.

Gotta keep that MIC well oiled!”


It’s a known fact that Kim Jong Un and his wife love the luxury life style so it goes without saying that the MIC has been bribing with same to have them behave in a belligerent way. Thus our political leaders and military will be ordering ever greater items from the MIC. I bet if the truth was know that they even provided Kim Jong Un the money to bribe the N.K. military to allow him to be the leader as an earlier astute poster pointed out.

Right?

April 5, 2013 at 3:40 p.m.
nucanuck said...

JRM,

If you were making a point, it was too twisted to be helpful.

April 5, 2013 at 5:35 p.m.
jesse said...

Nucanuk, i thought it was pretty clear what his point was!

BTW: Did you happen to move to Canada along about 1968 0r 69?

April 5, 2013 at 6 p.m.
kiben007 said...

I think easy is getting desperate. On an off handed note, who in their right mind would defend obama when he has made so many obviously corrupt decisions, and the state of the nation is not improving

April 5, 2013 at 6:53 p.m.
Easy123 said...

timboner,

"You are really getting desperate by using my own words to answer my own words...duh."

I didn't use your words. The words you used were plagiarized. You know that just as well as I do... DUH. You're projecting, timboner. It's obvious.

"I think you have typing turrets syndrome."

You mean Tourette syndrome? You really have no clue how ignorant you really are, do you?

"Excuse me, I should have said the communist party meetings. My mistake."

That wouldn't make sense if I was a conservative double agent. It's not even challenging anymore. All I have to do is point out the ignorant things you say. It's like shooting fish in a barrel, but the fish are already dead.

April 5, 2013 at 7:18 p.m.
dude_abides said...

degage said... "Off topic, Obama and several other staffers taking a 5% cut in pay."

Is this true? I hadn't heard that! When did he do that? Sheesh, that's like $1700.00 dollars a month. How many other staffers? How many republicans? Any reports of republicans doing this? Surely they're doing it too, right?

April 5, 2013 at 7:20 p.m.
Easy123 said...

kiben007,

"I think easy is getting desperate."

How so? I'd love to hear you lettered, logical, intelligent response. Also, I'd put cash money down right now that you know timbo considering you only have one post, you parroted timbo and sound just like him. Maybe you're one of those children he claims to have fathered. LMFAO! Desperate doesn't even cover the half of it with the timboner clan. Or should I say Klan?

"On an off handed note, who in their right mind would defend obama when he has made so many obviously corrupt decisions,"

Name one.

"and the state of the nation is not improving"

All of the evidence says otherwise.

Who in their right mind would believe anything you WingNuts say? You watch Fox News. You read WingNut propaganda and listen to Alex Jones. Nothing that enters in your mind even remotely resembles fact.

April 5, 2013 at 7:21 p.m.
dude_abides said...

"It’s a known fact that Kim Jong Un and his wife love the luxury life style so..." -Jt6gR3hM

"Very little is known for certain about Ri (Kim Jong Un's wife)"- The Rest of the World

April 5, 2013 at 7:37 p.m.
degage said...

Yup Dude, did you know Bob Corker gives his salary to charity that helps Chattanooga.

April 5, 2013 at 9:37 p.m.
nucanuck said...

jesse, my family moved to Canada in 2008 after my wife and I retired. We were looking for a place with less summer heat, but still a mild climate. As a bonus we found a place with no guns, low crime, progressive politics, universal health services for all, strong education, and culture.

Those Americans that came here in the late sixties, early seventies in order to avoid the Viet Nam War brought a wealth of talent to Canada and are generally well regarded. I wasn't as courageous as those people, but I certainly felt what they felt about US involvement in Viet Nam. I dodged that war by finding a reserve unit that had a space available and spent eight years in service.

April 5, 2013 at 11:03 p.m.
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