published Wednesday, April 10th, 2013

Margaret Thatcher

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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acerigger said...

It's probably too HOT for "The Iron Lady" and "Saint Ronnie" to be comparing notes on their clandestine wars,support for right-wing, genocidal dictators,union-busting,de-regulation policies,but maybe they can congratulate each other for helping us get to this point of record unemployment and where all the money goes to the "job creators".

April 10, 2013 at 12:23 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

You got manners? You put Teddy Kennedy in a sailboat cruising toward the sunset,drunken adulterer though he was.

Mrs Thatcher was a grocer's daughter who worked her way up, and did not think too highly of wimpy aristocrats, nor they of her.

Since our current golfing millionaire became President, the rich here have gained more wealth than the country as a whole, i.e. the rich are getting richer and the poor actually poorer. Will your drawing do for RIP BARACK OBAMA and OBAMA DEAD?

Jesus is libertarian. It works. "For brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only not liberty for opportunity to the flesh, but in love serve one another." Businesses that have to keep their customers happy have to serve, if not in love then in something like it. Tax-paid bureaucrats don't. And what people own we take care of, but what nobody owns gets wasted. Ain't Bowater that builds roads up the Rocky Mountains to harvest scrawny trees there; it's the U. S. Forest Service. Bowater's tree farms (Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia) regenerate like cornfields.

April 10, 2013 at 1:16 a.m.
WHS1970 said...
Tell it like it is Ace, tell it like it is.
April 10, 2013 at 1:25 a.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...


“Margaret Thatcher had more impact on the world than any woman ruler since Catherine the Great of Russia. Not only did she turn around—decisively—the British economy in the 1980s, she also saw her methods copied in more than 50 countries. "Thatcherism" was the most popular and successful way of running a country in the last quarter of the 20th century and into the 21st.

The 1970s marked the climax of Britain's postwar decline, in which "the English disease"—overweening trade-union power—was undermining the economy by strikes and inflationary wage settlements. The Boilermakers Union had already smashed the shipbuilding industry. The Amalgamated Engineers Union was crushing what was left of the car industry. The print unions were imposing growing censorship on the press. Not least, the miners union, under the Stalinist Arthur Scargill, had invented new picketing strategies that enabled them to paralyze the country wherever they chose.

The general view was that Britain was "ungovernable." She fought and won two pitched battles with the two strongest unions, the miners and the printers. Britain was transformed from the most strike-ridden country in Europe to a place where industrial action is a rarity.

She also reduced Britain's huge and loss-making state-owned industries, nearly a third of the economy, to less than one-tenth, by her new policy of privatization—inviting the public to buy from the state industries, such as coal, steel, utilities and transport by bargain share offers. Hence loss-makers, funded from taxes, became themselves profit-making and so massive tax contributors.

This transformation was soon imitated all over the world. More important than all these specific changes, however, was the feeling Thatcher engendered that Britain was again a country where enterprise was welcomed and rewarded, where businesses small and large had the benign blessing of government, and where investors would make money.

As a result Britain was soon absorbing more than 50% of all inward investment in Europe, the British economy rose from the sixth to the fourth largest in the world, and its production per capita, having been half that of Germany's in the 1970s, became, by the early years of the 21st century, one-third higher.

Among the British public she aroused fervent admiration and intense dislike in almost equal proportions, but in the world beyond she was recognized for what she was: a great, creative stateswoman who left the world a better and more prosperous place, and whose influence will reverberate well into the 21st century.”

April 10, 2013 at 2:04 a.m.
alprova said...

Been hitting that wine bottle again Andrew, haven't you?

Let's started off with Ted Kennedy, then touched on the rich getting richer while the poor getting poorer, not quite what we would expect a conservative to rant about...

Then you went onto write something about businesses and Bowater...

What the hell does any of what you wrote have to do with Margaret Thatcher?

Time for a new song from Andrew...

April 10, 2013 at 2:07 a.m.
hambone said...

Andrew, that Thunderbird is a good wine, ain't it.

April 10, 2013 at 4:54 a.m.
jesse said...

Andrew marches to his own personal drummer!

His brother was an only child!!

Love her or hate her Margret LED! She was "IN CHARGE" ! She had more backbone in her toe than Obama has in his intire body!

April 10, 2013 at 6:28 a.m.
titanic said...

Truly tasteless. Times Free Press you should be ashamed. It is fine if you disagree with someone but to take this approach after someone's death is over the line. She was a historical figure and deserves some amount of respect whether or not you agree with her politically. I am cancelling my subscription and would urge others to do the same. This junk should not be tolerated.

April 10, 2013 at 6:57 a.m.
limric said...

Nice one today Mate.

Out of respect for Mrs. Thatcher I will not mention her cruel hearted support of aggressive war, support of murderous dictators, tax cuts for the wealthy or her championing of poverty creation & St. Ronnie's supply side economics.

I promise.

In reverence her legacy I'll look beyond her eyes of Caligula and the mouth of Marilyn Monroe!.. Thus, examples of Thatcher, Hillary, Rice or Albright are difficult to grasp. But then, we need to realize that women can be just as heinous and loathsome as any of our 'male leaders'.

It does give indisputable proof of gender equality though, right?

April 10, 2013 at 7:07 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Jesse said: "She had more backbone in her toe than Obama has in his intire body!"

Sure, sure, Jesee. . . Say what you will. . . But even you can’t deny that when it comes to demonstrating courage and tackling certain culture wars, Thatcher had a lot more in common with President Obama than she did with either President Reagan or George W. Bush:

“One aspect of her legacy deserves some notice. The Thatcher government responded rather effectively and humanely to the HIV/AIDS crisis. Embracing harm reduction measures such as syringe exchange and methadone maintenance, it saved thousands of lives. Indeed the words “harm reduction,” anathema to American drug control policy until the Obama administration. . .“

Thatcher-era British policies provided a damning contrast to the Reagan and George H. W. Bush administrations, which so disfigured their legacies by allowing HIV policy to become yet another front in the culture wars. More than 600,000 Americans have died after being diagnosed with AIDS. An unknowable number of these deaths would not have occurred had our government moved with greater speed, resources, and humanity to contain a deadly epidemic.”

April 10, 2013 at 7:08 a.m.
aidehua said...

Mr. Bennett is not worthy to hold the door for Baroness Thatcher. Being a member of snooty Left, he knows he can get away with any and all despicable depictions of leaders of Western civilization. What a pathetic waste of talent is Mr. Bennett. Can't somewhere like Berkeley California take this clown so we needn't be subjected to his ravings every time we open the paper? I shudder to think how he would have demonized the passing of Winston Churchill. Mr. Bennett, you are a piece of trash not worthy even to be spit upon! Nor would I piss on you if you were on fire.

April 10, 2013 at 7:12 a.m.
Astropig said...

I'm not going to cut and paste anybody else's words to sing the praises of Lady Thatcher. The fact that there still is a Great Britain and no Soviet Union to discuss says more than I ever could.

Godspeed,Lady Thatcher.

April 10, 2013 at 7:13 a.m.
dude_abides said...

Is Andrew "going all wobbly" on us? Sometimes he seems to snatch thoughts out of the air, like he's in one of those money blowing machines, wildly grabbing dollars and giggling. Gimme, gimme!

April 10, 2013 at 7:28 a.m.
librul said...

Nah, I'm with Morrisey on this one. Margaret Thatcher was the female devil counterpart to that devil Ronald Reagan. They will be bookends on the library shelf of zealots and warmongers remembered rightly for the misery and suffering they brought to so many by staunchly serving the greedy and heartless. She will undountedly be able to sip "hot tea" every day for eternity.

April 10, 2013 at 7:37 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Aidehua says: "Mr. Bennett is not worthy to hold the door for Baroness Thatcher. . . Can't somewhere like Berkeley California take this clown so we needn't be subjected to his ravings every time we open the paper?"

Hmmm. . . Now that’s odd. . . I get the TFP every morning, but whenever I open my newspaper I always get the front page . . . and I have to search through Section B (METRO & Region) to view Mr. Bennett’s political cartoons - a treat that I enjoy.

April 10, 2013 at 7:53 a.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

Some commenters, when they are discussing the AIDS/HIV legacies of past and present presidents, ignorantly confuse George H.W. Bush with George W. Bush and give Barack Obama more credit than he deserves.

Written by a political opponent of George W. Bush:

By Eugene Robinson

“This is a moment for all Americans to be proud of the best thing George W. Bush did as president: launching an initiative to combat AIDS in Africa that has saved millions of lives.

When the Bush administration inaugurated the program in 2003, fewer than 50,000 HIV-infected people on the African continent were receiving the antiretroviral drugs that keep the virus in check and halt the progression toward full-blown AIDS. By the time Bush left office, the number had increased to nearly 2 million. Today, the United States is directly supporting antiretroviral treatment for more than 4 million men, women and children worldwide, primarily in Africa.

Bush’s initial multibillion-dollar commitment to PEPFAR was not really justifiable on grounds of national security, except perhaps in the broadest possible sense. The administration was motivated instead by altruism. It was the right thing to do.

President Obama has been sharply criticized for proposing a cut of nearly 12 percent in PEPFAR funding for the 2013 fiscal year. Administration officials say they are actually just shifting money to complementary programs and that overall HIV/AIDS funding will rise to an all-time high. Advocates for the PEPFAR program argue that any way you look at it, fewer dollars will ultimately mean fewer people receiving lifesaving drugs — and, potentially, more new infections.”

April 10, 2013 at 7:56 a.m.
mitziyates1 said...

Some would say Mr. Reagan and Mrs. Thatcher suffered while still breathing. Both had Alzheimer's. Hate their politics but have charity for the person.

April 10, 2013 at 8 a.m.
limric said...

Ahh yes, remembering the Iron Lady with ‘charity for the person’.

Some cub historians (or geezers like me) might recall that Argentina's air-force had quite the ‘initial’ success in sinking the HMS Sheffield (with an Exocet missile) during the Falklands war, but soon after failed to sink any other major warships in Britons fleet (including a couple of aircraft carriers) with them.

J’ever wonder why?

The Exocet missile frightened the British so much that the following transpired - but has been buried for decades.

‘Baroness Thatcher’ demanded the French give her the arming & tracking codes to disable Argentina's very effective Exocet missiles during the Falklands war by threatening to launch nukes. Quote François Mitterrand: "With her 4 nuclear submarines in the south Atlantic, she's threatening to unleash an atomic weapon against Argentina if I don't provide her with the secret codes that will make the Exocet missiles we sold the Argentinians deaf & blind.”

Well now you know why.

Additionally; She also ordered a submarine to launch a Polaris against Cordoba, the second largest city in Argentina, if either of the British carriers were sunk.

What a sweetheart huh. But...All's fair in love and war.

April 10, 2013 at 8:25 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Bennett has ZERO class.

At least we know where the hate resides, thank you for the reminder, Wart.

April 10, 2013 at 9:24 a.m.
JayP said...

Look at all the compassionate, tolerant liberals in this forum. Wishing and hoping that Thatcher rots in Hades.

Some of you need to jump into a dumpster fire.

April 10, 2013 at 9:44 a.m.
prairie_dog said...

Heaven and Hell are Christian concepts. Does this cartoon mean that Clay is a closet Christian?

Here's a riddle for you; where do atheists go when they die? A: Who cares?

April 10, 2013 at 9:55 a.m.
ordinaryguy said...

This proves my point that liberals are nothing more than intolerant, holier than thou jackasses...when Senator Ted passed you need not see such vitriol from the right, we know how to conduct ourselves...the left however, nothing more than ignorant honey boo boo's

April 10, 2013 at 9:56 a.m.
patriot1 said...

The hatred on the left is's that ad revuenue TFP?

April 10, 2013 at 10:01 a.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

From the Guardian Newspaper:

“Margaret Thatcher forced François Mitterrand to give her the codes to disable Argentina's deadly French-made missiles during the Falklands war by threatening to launch a nuclear warhead against Buenos Aires, according to a book.”

Odd that the British would need to get the codes (if they actually existed) from the French since the British armed forces were also equipped with the same missiles. Wouldn’t they already have the codes when they bought the weapons? It would be very strange to buy a weapon that another nation could disable at any time without you being able to set your own codes.

“Rendez-vous - the psychoanalysis of François Mitterrand, by Ali Magoudi, who met the late French president up to twice a week in secrecy at his Paris practice from 1982 to 1984.

Rendez-vous provides revealing insights into the man's mysterious character, complicated past, paranoia and power complex, but nothing as titillating as his remarks on the former British prime minister.

"Excuse me. I had a difference to settle with the Iron Lady. That Thatcher, what an impossible woman!" the president said as he arrived, more than 45 minutes late, on May 7 1982. "With her four nuclear submarines in the south Atlantic, she's threatening to unleash an atomic weapon against Argentina if I don't provide her with the secret codes that will make the missiles we sold the Argentinians deaf and blind." He reminded Mr Magoudi that on May 4 an Exocet missile had struck HMS Sheffield. "To make matters worse, it was fired from a Super-Etendard jet," he said. "All the matériel was French!"

In words that the psychoanalyst has sworn to the publisher, Meren Sell, are genuine, the president continued: "She's livid. She blames me personally for this new Trafalgar ... I was obliged to give in. She's got them now, the codes."

So this psychoanalysis Ali Magoudi was providing these unverified quotes by François Mitterrand to sell his book. It sound to me like Thacher was giving this wimp frog a good thrashing and he was making excuses for his impotence in her presence.

“Mr Mitterrand - who once described Mrs Thatcher as "the eyes of Caligula and the mouth of Marilyn Monroe" - went on: "One cannot win against the insular syndrome of an unbridled Englishwoman. Provoke a nuclear war for a few islands inhabited by three sheep as hairy as they are freezing! But it's a good job I gave way. Otherwise, I assure you, the Lady's metallic finger would have hit the button."

Yes, she had his number and by the way didn’t I just read in another post that Thatcher had "the eyes of Caligula and the mouth of Marilyn Monroe”. By the way why would Britain threatening nuclear war on Argentina scare the president for France unless he was actually crazy enough to believe that the British would risk world condemnation over such frivolous use of WMD’s.

April 10, 2013 at 10:03 a.m.
alprova said...

What do any of you truly know about the woman? Some of you are acting as if she were the QUEEN of England.

We sit here day in and day out seeing some of you folks offer complete disrespect for THIS nation's leader, and now you want to get sanctimonious over the death of someone who means nothing to you at all?

I personally have no opinion either way about Margaret Thatcher. I didn't keep up with what she did or didn't do as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.

From what I have read, she was not a popular person in her own Country by the time she left office in 1990.

Some of you just love to join her and Ronald Reagan at the hip. That appears to be a rather astute observation. Both began the shift in wealth that has come to erode the number of people who used to fall into the middle class.

You folks worship her and Ronnie if you so desire.

Everyone has to have their heroes, I suppose.

April 10, 2013 at 10:04 a.m.
conservative said...

"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money."

April 10, 2013 at 10:10 a.m.
prairie_dog said...

The so-called "job creators" would not get so much credit in our society if the "job holders" would take the individual risks and put in the time necessary to run their own job-creating businesses. When you decide that you shall work for someone else all your life, you've got to accept the fact that you serve at someone else's mercy all your life.

The "I deserve more because you have more than I do" mindset would be a lot better off financially if it had any clue whatsoever about what it takes to write a paycheck for someone else.

April 10, 2013 at 10:19 a.m.
alprova said...

ordinaryguy wrote: "...when Senator Ted passed you need [did?] not see such vitriol from the right, we know how to conduct ourselves..."

Not that it matters one bit, for everyone is entitled to their opinions, that was utter crap.

April 10, 2013 at 10:27 a.m.
acerigger said...

Most popular song in Briton right now??

"Ding-Dong,The Witch is Dead!"

Does that tell you anything?????

April 10, 2013 at 10:35 a.m.
limric said...


You're right, the comment,"the eyes of Caligula and the mouth of Marilyn Monroe" came from François Mitterrand's description of Margaret Thatcher. I failed to add a citation. My oversight.

April 10, 2013 at 10:41 a.m.
degage said...

Yes Ace, It tells me the left in England is so filled with hate they can't even leave the dead in peace.

Al, your Bennett toon about Kennedy sailing into the sunset just proves that Ordinaryguy is right.

I would like to believe the left in this country is not that filled with hate but Clay does make me wonder.

April 10, 2013 at 10:43 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Jt6gR3hM notes: “Some commenters, when they are discussing the AIDS/HIV legacies of past and present presidents, ignorantly confuse George H.W. Bush with George W. Bush and give Barack Obama more credit than he deserves.”

Since the quote from the Reality Base site clearly references “George H.W. Bush,” I believe you’re getting a little carried away in regard to a little "H" typo. As to President George W. Bush, I agree that he rightfully deserves applause for his efforts, but I also understand why Uganda’s Beatrice Were who contracted HIV from her husband would denounce the administration’s “abstinece only” policies and the fact that such a huge amount of the administration's AIDS allocation went to evangelical groups advocating these policies:

“One of Africa's highest profile AIDS activists, Beatrice Were has become known for her strongly worded criticism of U.S. global AIDS policy.

She accuses the American government of distorting HIV prevention programs in Africa in favor of an ineffective abstinence-only approach, and thus increasing stigma and endangering lives.

Her speech at the XVI International AIDS Conference in Toronto, in which she attacked the "ABC" approach to HIV prevention, won her a standing ovation.”

April 10, 2013 at 11:05 a.m.
caddy said...

Good Words, Andrew Lohr.

April 10, 2013 at 11:10 a.m.
librul said...


April 10, 2013 at 11:28 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Acerigger notes: “Most popular song in Briton right now??. . . "Ding-Dong,The Witch is Dead!" . . . Does that tell you anything?????

Yes, I suppose if you’re the kind of person who has inspired many of Rupert Murdoch’s "defining moments as a businessman" and if you’re the kind of person who has has been deemed an ideological soulmate of Rupert Murdoch, your image is a lost cause:

“Rupert Murdoch has paid personal tribute to Lady Thatcher, saying that she was responsible for many of his "defining moments as a businessman", including the destruction of the unions in his newspaper empire and the creation of Sky TV.

His eulogy in Wednesday's Times is no surprise as the media baron and Thatcher have long been deemed ideological soulmates who together were determined to bust Britain's unions, starting with an emblematic battle with print unions at his newspapers in 1986.

April 10, 2013 at 11:37 a.m.
degage said...

JonRoss, I just can't understand anyone speaking ill of the dead. None of us understood the mess of the night Mary Jo died but that is over and speaking ill of Kennedy after he is dead is uncalled for. We had plenty of time to call him on it while he was alive, but money spoke then as it does now.

April 10, 2013 at 11:42 a.m.
conservative said...

"Pennies don't fall from heaven, they have to be earned here on earth."

April 10, 2013 at 12:22 p.m.
Easy123 said...

The hypocrites are out today. Demonizing "vitriol" and "hatred" from the Left and then, in the same post, suggesting that "some of you need to jump into a dumpster fire." or speaking ill of the late Ted Kennedy.

I just wonder if they ever read their anti-Obama, anti-Democrat, anti-gay, anti-government, etc. rants? degage wonders how anyone can speak ill of the dead. What about speaking ill of the living? Egregious libel, misinformation, bigotry, homophobia, racism, lies, immoral "Christian" doctrine, etc. That is the typical content of a WingNut post in the TFP on any given day. And you sons of bitches dare talk about "hatred" or "vitriol" from the Left"?

Your ignorance is unbelievable. Your lack of awareness is astonishing. Your hypocritical nature is staggering.

What's the difference between a Republican and a toilet?

---The toilet's only full of sh!t until you pull the handle.

April 10, 2013 at 12:32 p.m.
Maximus said...

Clay's low down and classless doodle is about as disgusting as our common street agitator president Obama hauling a dozen New Town shooting victim parents to D.C. On Air Force One to lobby on his behalf. As always, with these outdated big government socialist punks the end justifies the means. Using grieving parents as props to sell your stupid ineffective gun control message makes me want to vomit. Barry The Welfare Pimp and Clay would make for a great gay marriage both have no character and certainly no integrity. With time, America will once again have a strong leader like Mrs. Thatcher who will restore the principles of self reliance, personal responsibility and integrity back into our culture. As for all those who have bought in to Clay's backward rhetoric I truly feel sorry for you. Enjoy your loser life and Clay I know those are pubic hair transplants on your head ewwwwwwww!

April 10, 2013 at 12:44 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

Some gun control activists feel that one of the most important items is to have universal background checks. That all states provide information to a central registry on those that should not get access to guns especially those that are emotionally unstable. People that are always in a state of rage towards others should be watched closely.

Don’t you think so?

April 10, 2013 at 12:48 p.m.
Maximus said...

Easy 123.....who cares about the gay marriage issue. The whole scam is a big effort to increase the gay brand. By gaining official approval from the Feds gays can more readily expand their numbers by recruiting and educating your children to chose their sexual identity while in elementary school whether they want to or not. Homosexuals have been around in small numbers since the beginning of time. They require no special rights what so ever. Get over it.

April 10, 2013 at 12:53 p.m.
Maximus said...

Jt6g. Someone is watching you right now. You are as suttle as an enraged sledgehammer. The universal background checks will never pass but we do need to re open the state mental hospitals for people like you.

April 10, 2013 at 12:57 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

“It’s a pretty safe bet to say that former President George W. Bush has been bashed more than praised on “The Daily Show,” but that wasn’t the case Wednesday night.

U2 frontman Bono was Jon Stewart’s guest and tipped his hat to Bush for his work on the fight against AIDS.

Speaking about World AIDS Day on Thursday, Bono said, “There will be announced for Worlds AIDS Day, the potential for the end of the scourge of AIDS…which even as it comes out of my mouth is kind of amazing.”

Continued the activist, “We’re hoping very much that President Obama is going to follow through on what President Bush did.”

A surprised Stewart interrupted Bono and said, “Woo, let me just swirl that around in my mouth.” “I know that’s hard for you to accept,” said Bono patting Stewart’s hand.

Added the singer, “It is amazing. People like John Kerry worked for this. Hillary Clinton, and eventually President Clinton did some extraordinary stuff renegotiating the prices of these very expensive drugs down. But George Bush kind of knocked it out of the park.”

From Politico

When asked what President has done more than any other to combat AIDS Elton John answered "George Bush."

"I wasn't a big fan of his policies, I was very against the Iraq war. So, you know, his policies didn't sit well with mine."

"At the Kennedy Center concert we spent some time in the intermission with the President, George Bush, and he was an amazingly informed about AIDS. He treated us with such kindness. I had so much respect for him, especially when the PEPFAR thing was announced when he gave 15 billion dollars to AIDS. He knew what he was talking about."

"One of the old adages in life is never judge someone until you meet them. I didn't like his policies but I have to say when I met him, I found him charming, I found him well informed and I found him determined to do something about the AIDS situation so I changed my opinion of him. And his wife was astonishingly kind to us well. So it was -- I learned a lesson."

April 10, 2013 at 12:59 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

Anytime you think a post is directed at you (even when it’s not) maybe you are revealing more about yourself than you may want to be known.

April 10, 2013 at 1:04 p.m.
librul said...

Note to Conservative:

Pennies come from Copper ore won from the ground and smelted by the sweat and gore of people who are paid the least that is possible by their corporate overlords and are accumulated in the billions by other people who consider themselves successful simply by coming by such wealth while never getting dirt under their fingernails.

April 10, 2013 at 1:09 p.m.
MickeyRat said...

To all you hypocrite whiny uninformed Hannityesque crybabies. I’m going to one up - and pre-empt a funerary service for one of your beloved mass murderers and esteemed luminaries,Dick Cheney It will however reaffirm your hatred for me and anyone ‘not like you’.

To save the treasury some much needed cash AND help heal the American/world psyche - I say we give a shovel to every Iraqi vet and the mothers of those killed; send them all on buses to Wyoming where they would dig a hole so deep they can hand him over to Satan personally!

April 10, 2013 at 1:25 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Maximus says: “Clay's low down and classless doodle is about as disgusting as our common street agitator president Obama hauling a dozen New Town shooting victim parents to D.C. On Air Force One to lobby on his behalf.”

Like it or not Clay’s cartoon reflects reality. Before Margaret Thatcher’s so called reforms approximately 1 in 7 children in England lived in poverty. By the end of her reforms, the number of children living in poverty had risen to 1 in 3. The upshot of her policies was to foreclose on the economic mobility of the middle class. Sound familiar? It should. If not – think Republican.

April 10, 2013 at 1:44 p.m.
degage said...

Easy, your vitriol and hatred really showed through with your republican joke. Pot calling the kettle black.

April 10, 2013 at 1:52 p.m.
delmar said...

Expanding a little on MickeyRat's post. - "Thatcher’s lack of reflection or remorse about any of her policy decisions of those of her nation were stunning, she was really more Dick Cheney than Ronald Reagan."-DR. JASON JOHNSON

April 10, 2013 at 2:08 p.m.
Easy123 said...


Thank you for proving my point.

April 10, 2013 at 2:16 p.m.
Easy123 said...


I appreciate your willingness to join degage in a joint effort to prove my point.

April 10, 2013 at 2:19 p.m.
degage said...

No I am not saying that Jon, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, destroyed the lives of the people they were governing, The deaths they caused were unbelievable. True they are dead but they groomed The ones that took over. Most people democrat, republican and independent believe they were evil. Yes Easy I know you believe those of us that don't agree with you and your god Obama are evil.

I really don't believe any of our presidents past or present are evil, Some I didn't and don't agree with but that doesn't make them bad.

April 10, 2013 at 2:32 p.m.
JayP said...

And the brass at the TFP wonders why no one outside of the North Shore snobs or the Lexus Liberals of Signal Mountain will buy their paper. They publish letters about declining advertising, raising subscription rates and ask "what has happened to our product?" Well, this cartoon pretty much answers that question.

April 10, 2013 at 3:02 p.m.
alprova said...

JonRoss worte: "ordinaryguy is correct and alprova as usual is clueless."

Every one of your posts have proven him most incorrect, and Ted Kennedy has been dead two and a half years.

I don't ever want to be clued in to whatever it may be that is rolling around in your head at any given moment.

You're hopelessly pathetic.

April 10, 2013 at 3:04 p.m.
alprova said...

JonRoss wrote: "Ted Kennedy was just as evil and destructive of our freedoms as these beasts."

Can you name one freedom that you have lost? That goes for anyone else out there.

Name one freedom that you used to have, that you no longer have.

"He teamed with the Progressive elite (Pelosi, Obama, ad nauseam) to destroy our health care system."

Our health care system has been destroyed? Wow!! That's news to me.

Would you care to elaborate?

"Ted Kennedy deserves every ounce of contempt that can be heaped on him, even as his corpse molders."

Your opinion is noted for the record, not that anyone cares one whit about it.

The man is dead. He can no longer hurt you, you whiny spineless fraction of a man.

April 10, 2013 at 3:11 p.m.
Easy123 said...


"Yes Easy I know you believe those of us that don't agree with you and your god Obama are evil."

That entire statement is false. Try again, you lying hypocrite.

April 10, 2013 at 3:31 p.m.
Maximus said...

Mtnluny......spending a LOT of time on the net today are we? I know, you have a degree from the University of Yahoo!! What is up with you And unions? Its not 1930 any more. Ever hear of legal and hr departments not to mention hundreds of guvment regulations regarding safety, discrimination, etc. Unions are as obsolete and outdated as your hairstyle. Get off the left wing sites they make you blind to common sense and reality.

April 10, 2013 at 4:22 p.m.
fairmon said...

mountainlaurel said...

Beatrice Were accuses the American government of distorting HIV prevention programs in Africa in favor of an ineffective abstinence-only approach, and thus increasing stigma and endangering lives.

Tell her to take a flying leap if she doesn't like the low cost drugs and financial assistance. Africa would be in deep stuff if up to me to help them before every American had adequate food, clothing and shelter. We are borrowing money to continue helping them and have to listen to her BS. I assume she disposed of (killed) the husband that infected her.

April 10, 2013 at 4:49 p.m.
conservative said...

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Isaiah 5:20 KJV

April 10, 2013 at 5:01 p.m.
whatsthefuss said...

I hope people aren't talking about dear Annette Funinthejello like they are about the departed Margaret,,,,,,

April 10, 2013 at 5:04 p.m.
LaughingBoy said...

Disappointing, but unsurprising. A new low by Bennett.

April 10, 2013 at 5:07 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Maximus asks: “What is up with you And unions? Its not 1930 any more. . . Get off the left wing sites they make you blind to common sense and reality.”

Nothing is up, Maximus. To date, I’ve never even belonged to a union, but I do support the right of people to do so and fully understand why people might feel the need to do so, especially if someone like Rupert Murdoch employs them. As to your advice, thanks, but I’m fully satisfied with the so-called left wing sites. Indeed, I think most of my favorites have a very good grasp of reality and typically apply a lot of common sense. A good example, perhaps, is this little discussion on death etiquette, Hugo Chavez and Margaret Thatcher:

“Tellingly, few people have trouble understanding the need for balanced commentary when the political leaders disliked by the west pass away. Here, for instance, was what the Guardian reported upon the death last month of Hugo Chavez:

To the millions who detested him as a thug and charlatan, it will be occasion to bid, vocally or discreetly, good riddance."

Nobody, at least that I know of, objected to that observation on the ground that it was disrespectful to the ability of the Chavez family to mourn in peace. Any such objections would have been invalid. It was perfectly justified to note that, particularly as the Guardian also explained that:

"to the millions who revered him – a third of the country, according to some polls – a messiah has fallen, and their grief will be visceral."

Chavez was indeed a divisive and controversial figure, and it would have been reckless to conceal that fact out of some misplaced deference to the grief of his family and supporters. He was a political and historical figure and the need to accurately portray his legacy and prevent misleading hagiography easily outweighed precepts of death etiquette that prevail when a private person dies.

Exactly the same is true of Thatcher. There's something distinctively creepy - in a Roman sort of way - about this mandated ritual that our political leaders must be heralded and consecrated as saints upon death. This is accomplished by this baseless moral precept that it is gauche or worse to balance the gushing praise for them upon death with valid criticisms. There is absolutely nothing wrong with loathing Margaret Thatcher or any other person with political influence and power based upon perceived bad acts, and that doesn't change simply because they die. If anything, it becomes more compelling to commemorate those bad acts upon death as the only antidote against a society erecting a false and jingoistically self-serving history.”

April 10, 2013 at 5:24 p.m.
Salsa said...

This cartoon is definitely in the wrong direction but that is no surprise considering the amount of hate speech this "cartoonist" draws.

April 10, 2013 at 5:59 p.m.
Easy123 said...

"the amount of hate speech this "cartoonist" draws."

How does one "draw" hate speech?

April 10, 2013 at 6:01 p.m.
conservative said...

There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.Proverbs 14:12 KJV

April 10, 2013 at 6:16 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Salsa says: “This cartoon is definitely in the wrong direction but that is no surprise considering the amount of hate speech this "cartoonist" draws.”

I’ve certainly seen some political cartoons that appear to be trying to incite hatred, but never any by this cartoonist. Indeed, I can’t recall any Clay Bennett cartoon that threatens and/or insults groups based on race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, or disability.

April 10, 2013 at 7:03 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

This nation recognizes freedom of speech, as the freedom of expression, orally, written, in print, electronically or through art forms. The protection of freedom of speech as a right includes not only the content, but also the means of expression.

If you believe in that concept and that there is such a thing as hate speech then it would follow that type of speech can be expressed in all these forms. Personally I don’t subscribe to such foolishness as thought crimes and that people should be allowed to speak freely. However I do reserve the right to evaluate those that do express themselves in that manner to be of questionable value, on several levels, to a rational exchange of ideas.

April 10, 2013 at 7:45 p.m.
dude_abides said...

I believe Margaret Thatcher faked her death, and has taken over the Atlanta SWAT Hostage Response Team! One and done!

April 10, 2013 at 7:49 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

There's none so blind as those who will not see.

April 10, 2013 at 7:55 p.m.
degage said...

Easy, It is so sad that a 28 year old can spew such hatred. I feel sorry for you.

April 10, 2013 at 8:44 p.m.
Easy123 said...


I haven't spewed any hatred, you oblivious liar. I pity your lack of understanding about how truly hypocritical, misinformed, ignorant, dishonest, and all-together wrong you are about so many things, including your perception of me and the things I post.

You don't know what hatred is. That is obvious. If you did, you would be confronting people like JonRoss, Maximus, conservative or any number of others that come here to do nothing other than spread lies, recite the same libel, and promote bigotry and ignorance. But you don't do that and anyone with an ounce of perceptive ability knows why: you're markedly biased.

I will pull no punches with you. It obviously bothers you that I expose you here so often. That is why you make comments like the one above. You mischaracterize me and everything I post because of all of the reasons I've mentioned. But rest assured, I will continue to expose your hypocritical, dishonest nature.

Your lies and "hatred" of people that oppose you are apparent. The things you say are disingenuous. You are a liar and a hypocrite.

April 10, 2013 at 9:10 p.m.
degage said...

And I will continue to expose yours. You are the biggest liar and the most dishonest one on this forum and you can't stand anyone challenging you. You call all of those that don't agree with you the nastiest names just like Jon, Max, dude and a number of others do. I have refrained from calling you a liar but you really deserve to be called one.

One would think at 28 you would be over such anger, but the child in you keeps shining through.

April 10, 2013 at 9:27 p.m.
skiiiii664 said...

You are a sick man Clay. You draw cute cartoons but have a sick, disrespectful the expense of others.

April 10, 2013 at 9:29 p.m.
dude_abides said...

degage cannot afford to believe she's been wrong her whole life regarding a woman's place in this world being behind a man. She's like a burka wearing Arab cow, taking the children to the back room of a restaurant while the men enjoy the service that is their "right" as head of the household.

April 10, 2013 at 9:36 p.m.
Easy123 said...


"And I will continue to expose yours."

My what? You have never exposed anything about me. You do like to mischaracterize me and my posts quite often though. Most people just call that lying.

"You are the biggest liar and the most dishonest one on this forum and you can't stand anyone challenging you."

Again, nothing in that entire statement is true, liar.

"You call all of those that don't agree with you the nastiest names just like Jon, Max, dude and a number of others do."

The names are accurate descriptions of their personalities and intellect. If you have a problem with it, take it up with the dictionary.

"I have refrained from calling you a liar but you really deserve to be called one."

I absolutely do not. I have not lied about anything. Do you even know what these words mean or are you just that willing to openly lie about me? You're successfully proving everything I've said about you.

"One would think at 28 you would be over such anger, but the child in you keeps shining through."

You cannot provide one instance of me ever getting angry in these threads. One would think, at this point, that you would quit lying and being a hypocrite, but you obviously cannot refrain from continually mischaracterizing myself and E V E R Y T H I N G I post. Nothing you say is true. Nothing you say is factual.

What is it like to be so patently deceitful? I must really get under your skin for you to have to resort to telling outright lies. I've yet to come across anything you've said that is accurate, honest or not hypocritical. The only child in this conversation is you, degage. You lie and deceive just like a petulant child.

April 10, 2013 at 9:47 p.m.
degage said...

Sorry to disappoint you Easy, You appear to be angry all the time. Read you post all through this forum. dude the sexist! That was real sweet.

April 10, 2013 at 9:54 p.m.
Easy123 said...


"Sorry to disappoint you Easy, You appear to be angry all the time."

I've never gotten angry here. You just like to mischaracterize me as angry. You're projecting. In reality, you're the angry one. If I lied and acted as hypocritical as you and someone called me out on it all the time, I would be mad too.

You confuse "anger" with "passion" and "blunt truth".

"Read you post all through this forum."

Nothing I've said is "angry" whatsoever. It would appear, by your constant lying, that you are getting to the point of anger. People tend to talk before they speak when they get angry. You're the queen of doing that.

Read through your posts and you'll see what I'm talking about. All that "hypocritical, ignorant, liar" stuff. Oh wait, that's another one of your problems! Being completely oblivious of your own words/beliefs and unwilling to admit the truth about yourself and others.

I truly pity you. Such a waste of a mind.

"dude the sexist! That was real sweet."

What dude_abides said was actually the opposite of sexist. He's saying you don't get it and that you're blind to what's going on around you. dude_ is advocating a more independent, active role for women in the home and society. Some people call it gender equality. I'm sure you'd just call it "socialism". You would know that if you had the ability to read objectively. You never fail in proving everything I say about you. You're truly oblivious.

April 10, 2013 at 10:17 p.m.
hixsondave said...

Tasteless, no matter your politics.

April 11, 2013 at 9:05 a.m.
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