published Sunday, April 21st, 2013

The Big Tent

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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AndrewLohr said...

Boring nastiness.

Good news for Mr Bennett: he won some cartooning award. Congratulations. Bad news: it was for most perfectly toeing the party line. (The 1st is true.)

April 21, 2013 at 12:09 a.m.
Salsa said...

The 2nd is true too.

April 21, 2013 at 12:28 a.m.
John_Proctor said...

Why does Clay hate clowns? He drew them in this group picture of the TN legislature. The real circus clowns should take legal action against the legislative clowns for defamation of character and impersonation.

April 21, 2013 at 1:01 a.m.
Maximus said...

Like Obama, Clay is filled with divisiveness and hate. It must have been all that moving around he did as a military brat or maybe because he has all the good looks of the unibomber.

April 21, 2013 at 6:58 a.m.
alprova said...

The big top's main attraction in the clown tent today are Senators Lindsey Graham, John McCain and Kelly Ayotte.

They are ready to rush to judgment that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is an "enemy combatant" and they want the boy to be tried in a military court or sent to Guantanamo Bay. Never mind that because he is a naturalized U.S. citizen, that would be highly illegal.

"The suspect, based upon his actions, clearly is a good candidate for enemy combatant status. We do not want this suspect to remain silent."

But what if he is silent? What if he totally refuses to speak with a soul when he regains the ability to speak? Regardless of whether or not he is read his Miranda rights, he has every right to clam up and say nothing.

"We remain under threat from radical Islam and we hope the Obama administration will seriously consider the enemy combatant option. We are encouraged our high value detainee interrogation team is now involved...A decision to not read Miranda rights to the suspect was sound and in our national security interests."

I have read nothing, anywhere, to indicate that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev has left this country since he came here about a decade ago. His dead brother did go to Russia for about six months last year, I believe.

So all this hoopla about radical Islamic indoctrination just doesn't seem to fit Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. His brother seems to have been radicalized and he quite possibly influenced Dzhokhar and convinced him to join in a very despicable act. His part in the bombings is in no manner inexcusable, and he deserves to die for what he did, but as an American citizen, he deserves full benefit that this nation's legal system, that includes civilian representation and a civilian court trial.

Once again, it seems that many Republican lawmakers are all about Constitutional protections, but are willing to throw those protections out the window, hastily I might add, without a care in the world, when their emotions are heightened.

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is indeed a terrorist. He conspired and carried out a plan to intentionally take the life and to maim as many people as possible on U.S. soil. I think there is little doubt to his guilt.

But regardless of his heinous act, and as much as there are people who would love to string the man up and hang him now, he is a United States citizen, and as such, he deserves a trial in civilian court and the opportunity to present the best possible defense, and no Republican can deny him that right.

April 21, 2013 at 7:21 a.m.
alprova said...

Maximus, you are routinely guilty of expressing pure hate and contempt for others. Have you ever posted one positive word about our President?

To even read you rant about anyone else being "filled with divisiveness and hate" is ludicrous.

But that doesn't make you any different from most of the other people who ignorantly level the same accusations at others in here.

April 21, 2013 at 7:29 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

OK, conservatives: one of yours. Agree? If so, then embrace his claim. If not, say so.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/04/20/glenn-beck-issues-ultimatum-to-white-house-over-benghazi-boston-conspiracy/

April 21, 2013 at 7:49 a.m.
conservative said...

But the wicked are like the tossing sea,

For it cannot be quiet,

And its waters toss up refuse and mud.

“There is no peace,” says my God, “for the wicked.”

April 21, 2013 at 7:57 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

conservative! Is Glenn Beck a TROO Christian (TM)?

April 21, 2013 at 7:59 a.m.
limric said...

RIGHTEOUS.

Another hit Mr. Bennett! Nothing says GOP like a tent full 'o' clowns. (zombies maybe?) HA.

Aren't they rich?

Closeted queers?

Losing touch with reality

So late in their careers?

And where are the clowns?

Quick, send in the clowns.

Don't bother - they're here.

I picture John McCain standing at the entrance playing a Hurdy Gurdy with Lindsey Graham on his shoulder; jumping down and picking up coins from hapless rubes.

April 21, 2013 at 8:19 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

wow, conservative. Your answer speaks volumes about your convictions.

April 21, 2013 at 8:27 a.m.
dude_abides said...

Yet another winner! Circus Maximus! LMAO

Can't you just smell the elephant dung?

April 21, 2013 at 8:36 a.m.
degage said...

Al, I must agree with you , the boy is a US citizen so should be treated as such. Why he became a citizen if he hates this country enough to carry out such an act is beyond me. so many questions and no answers. The DOJ has the last word on this, they must be sure they can do this the way they are.

April 21, 2013 at 8:42 a.m.
Maximus said...

Now, now Alpo I have stated numerous times on this distinguished panel that I love, love, love it when Obama destroys Radical Islamic Terrorists like the Tsamaev brothers with drone strikes. The filmed footage of entire villages blowing up is golden. Dudes, if you want to see a sweet photo of the piece of poop Islamic Terrorist Boston bomber, dead beat Dad, and wife beater big brother Tamerlan Tsamaev lying on a slab dead as a door nail go to the Smoking Gun site. As for the short little Islamic Terrorist man currently in hospital I think most American's especially those in Boston don't care how he is tried as long as he is executed as fast as OK City bomber Timmy McVea. Of course the little prick will plead innocent and already has the ACLU, Alprova, Dude Abides, and Fatty Ike coming to his defense. Hopefully, since Obama has left Guantanamo open we might as well use it. I say ship him to Cuba and let the water boarding begin. After all it was data obtained from water boarding interragations which helped our fearless leader, Barry Da Welfare Pimp kill OBL. Some things never change and the ignorance and hate shown by Alprova and Dude is always predictable. Both are obviously White Supremacists.

April 21, 2013 at 8:58 a.m.
hambone said...

Welcome to the.................

"KOCH BROS. ALEC CIRCUS"

Coming to a Statehouse near you!

April 21, 2013 at 9:04 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Maximusty,

There is no doubt that you are mentally retarded.

April 21, 2013 at 9:05 a.m.
alprova said...

degage wrote: "Al, I must agree with you , the boy is a US citizen so should be treated as such."

Wow!!! Common ground!!

"Why he became a citizen if he hates this country enough to carry out such an act is beyond me."

That is indeed the thing that does not make any sense. There has been enough evidence dug up to prove that his older brother was not quite all there, but nothing has been presented thus far to indicate that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev has received any radical Islamic indoctrination.

I think the entire nation wants to hear from his own lips why he did what he did.

"...so many questions and no answers."

That's for sure.

"The DOJ has the last word on this, they must be sure they can do this the way they are."

I have no doubt that no matter how they proceed, there are going to be a lot of ticked off people who want to go directly to putting the boy to death.

April 21, 2013 at 9:06 a.m.
dude_abides said...

Circus Maximus... Actually, I believe you are the only person I feel superior to. Did you just state that seeing entire villages (which would include children) blowing up is golden? You are definitely terrorist material. You're pre-brainwashed!

April 21, 2013 at 9:11 a.m.
patriot1 said...

Alpo....will the Boston bomber be elgible for Obamacare? What if he needs long term care, physical therapy, will he be covered or do we need to set up a jar down at the local convenience store?

April 21, 2013 at 9:15 a.m.
alprova said...

Maximus wrote: "Now, now Alpo I have stated numerous times on this distinguished panel that I love, love, love it when Obama destroys Radical Islamic Terrorists like the Tsamaev brothers with drone strikes."

You are presuming them both to be Islamic terrorists. It's rather stupid to make such an assumption until all the evidence is in.

"The filmed footage of entire villages blowing up is golden."

When have drones taken out an entire village? Can you supply a link to any such event?

Imagine if anyone were to order such an attack on any entire village here in the United States. How orgasmic would you be then?

Sometimes I truly believe that you type just to see what kind of a reaction you will receive.

"As for the short little Islamic Terrorist man currently in hospital I think most American's especially those in Boston don't care how he is tried as long as he is executed as fast as OK City bomber Timmy McVea."

Most Americans? Sir, most Americans believe that anyone accused of any crime, no matter how heinous it is, deserves their day in a court of law.

"Of course the little prick will plead innocent and already has the ACLU, Alprova, Dude Abides, and Fatty Ike coming to his defense."

You blooming pathological lying idiot, no one has offered one word that would indicate that we are defending what the man apparently did.

Speaking strictly for myself, regardless of what he has done, as a United States citizen, he deserves his day in court.

"Hopefully, since Obama has left Guantanamo open we might as well use it. I say ship him to Cuba and let the water boarding begin."

That will never happen. If it can happen to him, it can happen to any one of us, for any reason at all.

Thank God you are not in any position to change our laws.

"After all it was data obtained from water boarding interragations which helped our fearless leader, Barry Da Welfare Pimp kill OBL."

Gee...I thought that came about when a Pakistani Doctor ratted OBL's whereabouts to the CIA. He wasn't water boarded, was he?

"Some things never change and the ignorance and hate shown by Alprova and Dude is always predictable."

I'm not bothered a bit by your charge. Your posts speak volumes to the level of ignorance and hate that you accuse others of expressing.

"Both are obviously White Supremacists."

I'm sure that you can back that up with an iota of proof.

April 21, 2013 at 9:30 a.m.
alprova said...

patriot1 wrote: "Alpo....will the Boston bomber be elgible for Obamacare?"

He's a United States citizen, is he not? It's a rather moot point to even ponder, since ObamaCare does not kick in for another nine months yet. He is being treated under our old health care system, and as a Federal detainee, the U.S. Government most likely will be paying the tab for his medical care.

"What if he needs long term care, physical therapy, will he be covered or do we need to set up a jar down at the local convenience store?"

Hey...knock yourself out.

Most people want to see that boy survive. They want to understand why it is that he did what he did.

These were two people who had every advantage in life going for them both. They were not dirt poor. They were both attending college. They were living the American dream. Especially in the case of they younger one, it simply does not make any sense for him to have done it.

I don't know about you, but I want those answers. I hope we get them one day. If he dies, it will be for certain that those answers will not come.

April 21, 2013 at 9:41 a.m.
dude_abides said...

I wouldn't waste my time alprova. These folks think due process is something that makes the grass wet in the morning.

April 21, 2013 at 9:54 a.m.
rick1 said...

Al said on 12/15/2012 "Anyone caught with a weapon in their possession, capable of firing more than six bullets in a single event, should be put to death."

Today you said "But regardless of his heinous act, and as much as there are people who would love to string the man up and hang him now, he is a United States citizen, and as such, he deserves a trial in civilian court and the opportunity to present the best possible defense, and no Republican can deny him that right."

You did not mention in your post from 12/15/12 anything about having a trial for someone who is simply possessing a gun that can fire more then six rounds and you want to put them to death. But in your post from 7:21am today you said suspect in the Boston Marathon Bombings is a terrorist and they deserve a trail and an opportunity to present the best possible defense.

Typical liberal logic Al, give the terrorist who has killed three people and injured over hundred others a trial but someone who is simply possessing a weapon that can carry more then six bullets should be put to death.

April 21, 2013 at 9:57 a.m.
patriot1 said...

Alpo...as rick1 pointed out, when it comes to bloviating you've got this site covered.

April 21, 2013 at 10:06 a.m.
librul said...

Sorry, no high-wire acts - Republicans don't believe in safety nets.

April 21, 2013 at 10:29 a.m.
Maximus said...

Alprova...you obviously attended public schools due to your third grade reading and retention level. I stated that the piss ant in the hospital should receive a trial, i.e. his day in court. Dude and Alprova your obvious lefty views are funny. The motivation for both bombers was inspired by their radical Islamic faith. By the way, I have not read anywhere whether or not the two idiots ever held jobs. It certainly looks like the U.S. gave the entire family every opportunity to be successful citizens but they look to me like they took advantage of Barry The Welfare Pimps "Welfare World" and repaid us by killing and maiming innocent people. Finally, the numbskull Alprova states..."Imagine if someone were to order such an attack on any entire village here in the United States". Uh, Mr. Accuracy Alprova, and again this shows your leftist/weak attitude regarding the fact that we are currently at war against Radical Islamic Terrorists.....didn't the "village" of Boston get attacked on Monday. Alprova, thank God you are just some peon living in a rusted out trailer filled with resentment due to your lack of success in free market America for if you were in any kind of position of political power you would get a lot of innocent people killed. Just like the current Mayor of Chicago, Rahim Deadfish Emmanual....highest murder rate in the country and he informs citizens to duck and cover. %$&^ I'm headed out to the Honors Course to play some golf with rich Republicans. Gonna take the 1957 Chevy. I have kicked enough ass today. See ya losers!

April 21, 2013 at 10:46 a.m.
jesse said...

Maximus ,I'm headed that way myself,look for me!!I'll be driving a dark green Aston Martin!!

Maybe we can get a $2500.00 Nassau going!

April 21, 2013 at 10:52 a.m.
librul said...

Maximus - don't have a heart attack walking up the 16th fairway. We'd hate to lose your eloquent myopia.

April 21, 2013 at 11:12 a.m.
joneses said...

Once you've watched liberals long enough to understand how they think -- scratch that, how they feel -- they become extraordinarily predictable.

To begin with, the liberal agenda is, in many respects, the same as it was in the thirties. Whether you call it communism, fascism, socialism, liberalism, or progressivism, the only real difference is how much they believe they can get away with, the way they sell it to people, and the latest trendy name for what they believe.

So, once the liberals pick a policy from their stale program to push, the next step is to get it implemented. This is where liberals have problems because whether a policy makes sense, is practical, or actually improves people's lives is of secondary importance to them. What is important to liberals is whether supporting or opposing that policy makes them feel good about themselves.

This is why liberals continue to support dysfunctional policies that have been failing miserably for decades and why they often oppose common sense programs that have been proven to work time and time again -- because it isn't about whether it works or not, it's about how it makes them feel.

In other words, a liberal will almost always prefer a policy that's extremely expensive, is difficult to implement, helps almost no one, but seems "nice" -- to a policy that is cheap, simple to implement, extremely effective, and seems "mean."

However, since most Americans make decisions about policies based on whether or not they believe the policy makes people's lives better or worse, liberals have had to become habitually dishonest about what they believe and want to do to get their ideas put into action.

April 21, 2013 at 11:20 a.m.
joneses said...

A recent hearing sponsored by the Treasury and Labor Departments marked the beginning of the Obama Administration’s effort to nationalize the nation’s pension system and to eliminate private retirement accounts including IRA’s and 401k plans, NSC is warning. The hearing, held in the Labor Department’s main auditorium, was monitored by NSC staff and featured a line up of left-wing activists including one representative of the AFL-CIO who advocated for more government regulation over private retirement accounts and even the establishment of government-sponsored annuities that would take the place of 401k plans. “This hearing was set up to explore why Americans are not saving as much for their retirement as they could,” explains National Seniors Council National Director Robert Crone, “However, it is clear that this is the first step towards a government takeover. It feels just like the beginning of the debate over health care and we all know how that ended up.” A representative of the liberal Pension Rights Center, Rebecca Davis, testified that the government needs to get involved because 401k plans and IRAs are unfair to poor people. She demanded the Obama administration set up a “government-sponsored program administered by the PBGC (the governments’ Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation).” She proclaimed that even “private annuities are problematic.” Such “reforms” would effectively end private retirement accounts in America, Crone warns. “These people want the government to require that ultimately all Americans buy these government annuities instead of saving or investing on their own. The Government could then take these trillions of dollars and redistribute it through this new national retirement system.” Deputy Treasury Secretary J. Mark Iwry, who presided over the hearing, is a long-time critic of 401k plans because he believes they benefit the rich. He also appears to be one of the Administration’s point man on this issue. “This whole issue is moving forward very quickly,” warns Crone. “Already there is a bill requiring all businesses to automatically enroll their employees in IRA plans in which part of every employee’s paycheck would be automatically deducted and deposited into this account. If this passes, the government will be just one step away from being able to confiscate all these retirement accounts.” Read more: Please realize that this is 100% about funding $1.5 TRILLION annual deficits using Americans’ retirement funds, as there is simply no other remaining pool of wealth able to soak up $1.5 Trillion in T-bills annually. If the US government was put in charge of the Sahara Desert, there would not be a grain of sand remaining in 6 months.

April 21, 2013 at 11:27 a.m.
alprova said...

rick1 wrote: "You did not mention in your post from 12/15/12 anything about having a trial for someone who is simply possessing a gun that can fire more then six rounds and you want to put them to death."

Are you under any impression that just because I left out the word "convicted" from that sentence, that I endorse a double standard for different offenses?

Of course, everyone charged with a crime deserves their day in court.

Had I stated back then that someone caught using a weapon capable of firing more than six bullets in the commission of a crime, deserves to bypass court and be immediately put to death, THEN you might have a point.

"Typical liberal logic Al, give the terrorist who has killed three people and injured over hundred others a trial but someone who is simply possessing a weapon that can carry more then six bullets should be put to death."

No...what you are doing is picking apart a totally unrelated sentence, offered five months ago, to somehow make it appear that I implied something that I most certainly did not.

If there is anything typical here, it is that you presented a straw man fallacy to attempt to discredit me.

Nice try.

April 21, 2013 at 11:29 a.m.
alprova said...

patriot1 wrote: "Alpo...as rick1 pointed out, when it comes to bloviating you've got this site covered."

I love you too...

April 21, 2013 at 11:30 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

Gosnell still has not made front page of NYT. But today the "Conservative Koch Brothers" did. Liberal media bias in action.

April 21, 2013 at 11:39 a.m.
hambone said...

Maximush can't beleive what he types.

Nobody is that d-mn dumb!

April 21, 2013 at 11:41 a.m.
alprova said...

Maximus wrote: "Alprova...you obviously attended public schools due to your third grade reading and retention level."

Is that so? Every time you have the audacity to attack someone else's education level, you wind up proving your own lacking in that department.

"I stated that the piss ant in the hospital should receive a trial, i.e. his day in court."

Sir, I challenge you to post the date and time that you posted anything close to that. The closest you have come is to opine that "most American's especially those in Boston don't care how he is tried as long as he is executed as fast as OK City bomber Timmy McVea (sic)."

For future reference, Mr. Vanderbilt grad, it's spelled McVeigh.

"Dude and Alprova your obvious lefty views are funny. The motivation for both bombers was inspired by their radical Islamic faith."

That has yet to be proven to hold an ounce of truth.

"By the way, I have not read anywhere whether or not the two idiots ever held jobs."

Apparently they didn't need jobs. The older brother drove a Mercedes and both were supported by their parents who sent them money from Russia.

"It certainly looks like the U.S. gave the entire family every opportunity to be successful citizens but they look to me like they took advantage of Barry The Welfare Pimps "Welfare World" and repaid us by killing and maiming innocent people."

There is not an iota of evidence to suggest that any family member received a dime's worth of public support. Most of the elder family members are practicing attorneys, in foreign countries of course.

"Finally, the numbskull Alprova states..."Imagine if someone were to order such an attack on any entire village here in the United States". Uh, Mr. Accuracy Alprova, and again this shows your leftist/weak attitude regarding the fact that we are currently at war against Radical Islamic Terrorists.....didn't the "village" of Boston get attacked on Monday."

I was referring to drone strikes you moron. I was also questioning proof to your prior statement to have seen footage of drones taking out an entire village, anywhere on this Earth.

And you accuse me of having trouble comprehending what I read?

"I'm headed out to the Honors Course to play some golf with rich Republicans. Gonna take the 1957 Chevy."

Just a reminder, liar, I've got five grand to give you for proof that you own an adult driven, 1957 Chevrolet, or anything else you routinely brag about.

"I have kicked enough ass today. See ya losers!"

You are another in a long line of idiots who are nothing but legends in their own minds.

April 21, 2013 at 11:49 a.m.
alprova said...

joneses wrote: Blah...blah...blah....blah, blah, blah...

For those interested in the truth;

http://factcheck.org/2008/11/iras-401ks-and-you/

http://newirarules.com/news/new-obama-ira-rules/

April 21, 2013 at noon
lightkeeper said...

Another good one Clay!The Republiecon Stupid Party Clown Circus. Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal's statement that the republiecon party was the stupid party was the understatement of the century. I've never seen a group of people who insist on making themselves look like clowns in front of the entire world no matter what reality in the real world shows them.

April 21, 2013 at 12:20 p.m.
lightkeeper said...

Joneses must have been looking in a mirror when he wrote that ridiculous ranting piece of crap he wrote as usual. A complete right wing extremist nut job. I do believe Moccasin Bend let the patients out too soon. People like Joneses is the reason nobody pays attention to republiecons, a total lunitic.

April 21, 2013 at 12:39 p.m.
rick1 said...

Al, your post from 12/15/12 at 2:01 a.m. you made it clear “Anyone caught with a weapon in their possession, capable of firing more than six bullets in a single event, should be put to death.” Now you want to play word games with “Had I stated back then that someone caught using a weapon capable of firing more than six bullets in the commission of a crime, deserves to bypass court and be immediately put to death, THEN you might have a point.”

You made it a point to include in your post this morning that the terrorist should have a trial unlike your post from December. But we should not be surprised by your views on terrorists since you have made it known in a post from 04/15/12 when you said “I wish Bill Ayers had done more too. I might be enjoying the company of the two Uncles I lost in Vietnam. It's quite silly to make any comparison of what Bill Ayers did to what happened yesterday, because Bill Ayers destroyed property, not lives, and we don't know yet who set off those bombs in Boston or why they did it.

Al, I’m truly sorry that you lost two uncles in Vietnam but to support terrorists like Bill Ayers because you say they only damaged property and not lives shows how much of a radical you are. And your comment that they only destroyed property is not true.

Members of the Weather Ground who were killed while making a bomb and it accidentally exploded. This bomb an anti-personnel device intended for an Army dance at Fort Nix, Mark Rudd, another member of the Weather Underground, is on record stating Ayers was in favor of planting the bomb, saying that he wanted “this country to have a taste of what it had been dishing out daily in Southeast Asia…” What the U.S. had been trying to do was prevent a communist takeover of South Vietnam. continued

April 21, 2013 at 12:47 p.m.
rick1 said...

What about the bomb that Ayers along with other Weather Ground members planted the bomb that killed officer Brian McDonnell and injured nine other cops in a blast at a San Francisco police station in 1970? Al, your post from 12/15/12 at 2:01 a.m. you made it clear “Anyone caught with a weapon in their possession, capable of firing more than six bullets in a single event, should be put to death.” Now you want to play word games with “Had I stated back then that someone caught using a weapon capable of firing more than six bullets in the commission of a crime, deserves to bypass court and be immediately put to death, THEN you might have a point.”

You made it a point to include in your post this morning that the terrorist should have a trial unlike your post from December. But we should not be surprised by your views on terrorists since you have made it known in a post from 04/15/12 that you said “I wish Bill Ayers had done more too. I might be enjoying the company of the two Uncles I lost in Vietnam. It's quite silly to make any comparison of what Bill Ayers did to what happened yesterday, because Bill Ayers destroyed property, not lives, and we don't know yet who set off those bombs in Boston or why they did it.

Al, I’m truly sorry that you lost two uncles in Vietnam but to support terrorists like Bill Ayers because you say they only damaged property and not lives shows how much of a radical you are. And your comment that they only destroyed property is not true.

Members of the Weather Ground who were killed while making a bomb and it accidentally exploded. This bomb an anti-personnel device intended for an Army dance at Fort Nix, Mark Rudd, another member of the Weather Underground, is on record stating Ayers was in favor of planting the bomb, saying that he wanted “this country to have a taste of what it had been dishing out daily in Southeast Asia…” What the U.S. had been trying to do was prevent a communist takeover of South Vietnam.

What about the bomb that Ayers along with other Weather Ground members planted the bomb that killed officer Brian McDonnell and injured nine other cops in a blast at a San Francisco police station in 1970? . Larry Grathwohl, a former FBI informant within the Weather Underground, contends that that "there are 'irrefutable and compelling reasons' to believe Ayers was involved in this bombing.

"Guilty as hell. Free as a bird." Bill Ayers

Al, you can deny it all you want but you have shown that you sympathize with terrorist and have contempt for Americans that want to keep their right to bear arms.

April 21, 2013 at 12:48 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Alprova said: "The big top's main attraction in the clown tent today are Senators Lindsey Graham, John McCain and Kelly Ayotte."

Yes, one can’t help but wonder about the mental health status of these people, especially Graham. What a mess this guy is. One minute he’s standing in front of the TV cameras telling us we can’t establish any sensible standards when it comes to regulating guns because it would violate the 2nd Amendment of our Constitution and the next minute he’s standing in front of the TV cameras demanding that the President toss the U.S. Constitution out the window.

April 21, 2013 at 12:56 p.m.
jesse said...

Since they filled up the circus tent w/ republicans i guess they gonna have to put the democrats in the ZOO!!!sounds about right!

April 21, 2013 at 1:52 p.m.
carlB said...

I would say that the people below will have to some hard decisions to make in the 2014 and the 2016 elections.

AndrewLohr

Salsa

John_Proctor

Maximus

conservative

patriot1 What would you have to sarcastically complain about without President Obama getting elected?

rick1

joneses

April 21, 2013 at 2:16 p.m.
carlB said...

Clay, you came up with the perfect cartoon. The "clowns" in Congress who go to the trouble of getting elected for their own self interest and are afraid to go against their parties' "block voting" and the loss of support of the NRA have got to be worried abouit how the people will vote in the next elections.

April 21, 2013 at 2:32 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

Jesse, you and the other middle-of-the-roaders, independents, or whatever you like to call yourselves are always quick to let it be known that you hate both parties equally, so you make a point not to let the Dems go unscathed when someone bashes the Repubs. But as much as Dems can rightfully be blamed for simply being part of a rotten political system, not one Dem has ever come up with legislation that comes anywhere close to approaching the degree of insanity and nonsense that Repubs churn out with regularity. Hardly a day goes by that some teabagging Repub does not propose some new bill that he/she pulled out of far right field that tries to cater to their extremist tea-party or fundamentalist Christian base.

While there are a few DINOs who don't really reflect the view of the majority of Democrats, most true Dems still try to represent the wishes of their core constituents. The Democratic party has not sold itself out to a radical base of nut-jobs the way the GOP has. Whatever failings the Democratic party can be accused of, you cannot rightly accuse it of being as loony, out of touch, and clownish as the Republicans. Nobody wears the clown suit better than the Repubs do.

April 21, 2013 at 2:35 p.m.
alprova said...

rick1 wrote: "You made it a point to include in your post this morning that the terrorist should have a trial unlike your post from December. But we should not be surprised by your views on terrorists since you have made it known in a post from 04/15/12 when you said "I wish Bill Ayers had done more too. I might be enjoying the company of the two Uncles I lost in Vietnam. It's quite silly to make any comparison of what Bill Ayers did to what happened yesterday, because Bill Ayers destroyed property, not lives, and we don't know yet who set off those bombs in Boston or why they did it."

I absolutely stand by my prior statements.

"Al, I’m truly sorry that you lost two uncles in Vietnam but to support terrorists like Bill Ayers because you say they only damaged property and not lives shows how much of a radical you are. And your comment that they only destroyed property is not true."

It is true in the case of Bill Ayers. He took no part in any bomb that did cause any deaths.

"Members of the Weather Ground who were killed while making a bomb and it accidentally exploded."

Bill Ayers did not have any knowledge how to construct a bomb. The bomb makers blew themselves up.

"This bomb an anti-personnel device intended for an Army dance at Fort Nix, Mark Rudd, another member of the Weather Underground, is on record stating Ayers was in favor of planting the bomb, saying that he wanted “this country to have a taste of what it had been dishing out daily in Southeast Asia…” What the U.S. had been trying to do was prevent a communist takeover of South Vietnam."

Where did you source that information? Bill Ayers objections to the war were with the U.S. Government, and not those soldiers who were forced to engage in Vietnam.

April 21, 2013 at 3:11 p.m.
alprova said...

rick1 wrote: "What about the bomb that Ayers along with other Weather Ground members planted the bomb that killed officer Brian McDonnell and injured nine other cops in a blast at a San Francisco police station in 1970?"

Any and all accusations implicating Bill Ayers and his wife in that bombing come from the FBI mole, Larry Grathwohl, who wrote a book about his involvement with the group.

He testified to their involvement on October 18, 1974, before a US Senate Subcommittee. He also testified that the Weather Underground were attempting to cause the United States government to collapse and open the door for Cuban, North Vietnamese, Chinese and Russian troops to occupy the country.

Larry Grathwohl has amassed a nice reputation as just another kook, receiving the attention of Alex Jones, Breitbart, most recently suggesting that Barack Obama had Andrew Breitbart murdered hours before an explosive video was to be released last year that would have prevented his reelection.

The only problem is that there is not a shred of evidence, other than Larry Grathwohl's testimony, to back it up.

"Larry Grathwohl, a former FBI informant within the Weather Underground, contends that that "there are 'irrefutable and compelling reasons' to believe Ayers was involved in this bombing."

And if he could produce that 'irrefutable and compelling evidence,' then I would agree with you. There has been no evidence produced to date and Bill Ayers has totally denied involvement with that bombing.

"Al, you can deny it all you want but you have shown that you sympathize with terrorist and have contempt for Americans that want to keep their right to bear arms."

You're not quite right Sir. I absolutely do not support any act of terrorism that involves the intention of taking innocent life. I sympathize with any and all groups that took part in attempting to protest the Vietnam War, for our Government was hideously incorrect to have imposed conscription to engage us in that war.

I have no problem with people keeping and bearing arms. The only arms I feel that civilians should be able to keep and bear, include only weapons that include a feature where each and every bullet must be manually loaded and capable of firing up to six bullets.

April 21, 2013 at 3:48 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

Bill Ayers and the Weather Underground were not just a crazed fringe of anarchists. Much violence grew out of the growing massive protests that took place in that era and there were many Americans who supported what they were doing. Their intent was never to kill or injure innocent people. Yes, they carried their protests beyond a point that many Americans thought was acceptable, and most Americans today are quick to label them terrorists in the same vein as any Islamic jihadist or the Unabomber or Tim McVeigh. But it is not accurate or fair to just dismiss them as evil, senseless, traitorous terrorists. They were part of an era in which our country was literally on the verge of a civil war and there was a huge divide between our heedless government and the will of a large portion of the people. That portion was so large that it in fact eventually became a majority.

It's interesting that these anti-government teabaggers today are so quick to defend the government when it comes to unnecessary wars and tax breaks for the rich and corporations, but if that same government goes a little farther than they like when it comes to regulating their guns or going too far against THEIR will in any way, they wouldn't hesitate to go ballistic, with every backwoods militia turning out in violent, bloody protest. They have even threatened to "exercise their second amendment rights." Then the teabaggers would not call it terrorism but justifiable revolution. Well, there were many Americans back in the day who felt completely justified in fomenting revolution. Bill Ayers and the Weathermen were the embodiment of that faction of people.

April 21, 2013 at 4:18 p.m.
jdavid said...

This is my first real argument with one of Clay's cartoons. He's used his considerable talent and exposure to give clowns a really bad name. Republicans are more like puppets- Like Chucky and his bride but not so cute and cuddly.

April 21, 2013 at 4:52 p.m.
limric said...

Well said Rickaroo.

It's refreshing to see educated perspective instead of ignorant invective.

April 21, 2013 at 4:53 p.m.
alprova said...

Yes, Rickaroo, you are much better at expressing complete thoughts than most, including myself.

April 21, 2013 at 5:08 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

Limric and al, you guys offer your own perspectives that are always worth reading and pondering. You express yourselves in ways that I'm unable. I appreciate and enjoy your comments as much as anybody's.

April 21, 2013 at 5:28 p.m.
rick1 said...

Al said " I absolutely do not support any act of terrorism that involves the intention of taking innocent life."

Al either you support terrorism or you don't.

Ayers, is a documented communist check out the book Prairie Fire: The Politics of Revolutionary Anti-Imperialism, which was written and published by Ayers and other members of the Weather Ground in 1974. In the book it talks bout how Ayers through his group the Weather Underground, was planning to "seize power" in a violent communist takeover of the United States: We need a revolutionary communist party in order to lead the struggle, give coherence and direction to the fight, seize power and build the new society.

Al, Rickaroo and Limric go ahead and continue to support and worship your communist terrorist hero Bill Ayers.

http://zombietime.com/prairie_fire/

April 21, 2013 at 5:44 p.m.
lightkeeper said...

I agree with you Rickaroo as well, very well said. The rght wing nuts have a way of manipulating and twisting facts to serve their agenda. Now don't be surprised when what you said will be turned against you Some teabagger will come along and attempt to accuse you and democrats of the very thing they're gulity of, kind of like a sick form of reverse psychology.

April 21, 2013 at 5:46 p.m.
patriot1 said...

carlb says "I would say that the people below will have to some hard decisions to make in the 2014 and the 2016 elections."

Why did you not include Alpo on your list...he's the only "registered republican" that posts on this site that I am aware of, at least he claims to be.

April 21, 2013 at 6:50 p.m.
fairmon said...

A defense attorney would probably say these two saw the TV and their assumed guilt, panic set in and they assumed they would be killed if found? There is likely conclusive unpublicized evidence of their guilt in the bombing rather than circumstantial. I may have missed it but I have seen nothing that would be conclusive. They did without a doubt kill the policeman which is enough to justify what happened to one of them and the death penalty of the hospitalized "suspect" as he continues being called. Wonder why his father with his stupid accusations would be allowed back in the country?

April 21, 2013 at 7:03 p.m.
patriot1 said...

This is how Bernardine Dohrn (wife of Bill Ayers)described the Charles Manson brutal murder of Sharon Tate and you liberals are ok with these people?......

In a speech during the December 1969 "War Council" meeting organized by the Weathermen, attended by about 400 people in Flint, Michigan, Dohrn said, "First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, then they even shoved a fork into the pig Tate's stomach! Wild!"[14] In greeting each other, delegates to the war council often spread their fingers to signify the fork.[9]

April 21, 2013 at 7:08 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Rick1 says: “Ayers, is a documented communist check out the book Prairie Fire: The Politics of Revolutionary Anti-Imperialism, which was written and published by Ayers and other members of the Weather Ground in 1974.”

Interesting that you continue to dwell on what was going on in 1974. One would almost think you’re trying to avoid discussing current events and what is going on in 2013. Indeed, what do you think about Republicans like Lindsey Graham who are demanding that we toss out the Constitution and who want to see drones patrolling criminal suspects in the U.S.?

"The South Carolina senator wants Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, an American citizen, to be held as an enemy combatant.

This is pretty breathtaking. Graham is suggesting that an American citizen, captured on American soil, should be deprived of basic constitutional rights. . . "

“Graham also lamented to the Washington Post's Jennifer Rubin that there wasn't a drone tracking the suspect.”

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/04/shorter-lindsey-graham-constitution-what-constitution/275157/

April 21, 2013 at 7:23 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

The real circus clowns should take legal action against the legislative clowns for defamation of character and impersonation.

Can't you just smell the elephant dung?

There is no doubt that you are mentally retarded.

Actually, I believe you are the only person I feel superior to.

You're pre-brainwashed!

You blooming pathological lying idiot,

I was referring to drone strikes you moron.

You are another in a long line of idiots who are nothing but legends in their own minds.

Blah...blah...blah....blah, blah, blah...

The Republiecon Stupid Party Clown Circus

that ridiculous ranting piece of crap he wrote as usual.

A complete right wing extremist nut job.

I do believe Moccasin Bend let the patients out too soon.

a total lunitic.

wonder about the mental health status of these people

What a mess this guy is

The "clowns" in Congress

as loony, out of touch, and clownish as the Republicans

Nobody wears the clown suit better than the Repubs do

The rght wing nuts


Then there was this gem.

“It's refreshing to see educated perspective instead of ignorant invective.”


But here is one you guys missed.

“na-na na-na boo boo stick your face in do do”

April 21, 2013 at 7:28 p.m.
alprova said...

rick1 wrote: "Al either you support terrorism or you don't."

Hey, just because you live in a black and white world, that does not mean that I am forced to live in one too.

"Ayers, is a documented communist check out the book Prairie Fire: The Politics of Revolutionary Anti-Imperialism, which was written and published by Ayers and other members of the Weather Ground in 1974."

In 1974, eh? People do not change in your mind. They are always the same. I'm sure that there are many fine people dotted across the country who were guilty of protesting, some violently, what our Government did back then.

The Weather Underground were one of many groups who became violent. The tin-foil hat crowd, those who love to beat the war drums in their living rooms, and let's not leave out those who are highly upset at the thought that a black man is now President, have revived Bill Ayers, because the two men met one another and live in the same neighborhood.

Imagine the violence that would ensue across this country if the Government were to go door to door to physically disarm every civilian. Would that be terrorism in your eyes too, or not?

Who would then be considered the terrorist; The civilians killed when they take up arms against the police, or the police men for carrying out their orders?

"Al, Rickaroo and Limric go ahead and continue to support and worship your communist terrorist hero Bill Ayers."

I don't worship anyone but God. I understand, however, why people became violent while protested a policy that should have never been put in place and people are in hell or will be going there, for setting aside the United States Constitution, demanding young men to take up arms not in defense of THIS nation.

April 21, 2013 at 8:48 p.m.
alprova said...

patriot1 wrote: "Why did you not include Alpo on your list...he's the only "registered republican" that posts on this site that I am aware of, at least he claims to be."

Boy, you just love to keep on beating a dead horse, don't you?

April 21, 2013 at 8:52 p.m.
Maximus said...

Great day at the golf course!!! Alprova you sure got a little pissy when I mentioned Obama's drone strikes. Come on man, it only takes a few Islamic Terrorist hodgies and a few goats to make a village in Afghanistan or whatever other Middle Eastern hell hole Obama decides to light up with drones. I know you do not care for the blood on Obama's hands due to "collateral damage" but war is hell. But Alprova, I have to say your defense of the Boston Bombing brothers is classic comic magical mystery tour 60's social justice fantasy. I have always pegged you as a retired union guvment worker but actually now I think you are living in a nursing home for Elinsky rules for radical counter culture types. I bet you have a little ear ring just like Bill Ayers and speak in effiminate professorial tones, just like Bill the unrepentent terrorist bomber. Remember, your boy crush President Obumer stated last week that anyone that bombs innocent people in the U.S. is a terrorist. But man, look at the older Boston Bomber, a wife beater, a looney tunes AlKaeda website lover, and he be dead. The one in the hospital...exhibit A-The photo of the little turd standing right behind the 8 year old boy that perrished in the bombing. Mark my word, that photo which apparently Alprova your nursing home did not have the TV station that revealed the pic. You need to check it out on the net. The 19 year old bomber with the hat turned around appears to have a smirk on his face standing right behind the little boy. The mother is a convicted felon. The father is a looney tunes in Russia and you, Alprova are defending these, in my dear Mothers words, trifling, trashy, people. Sad dude, really sad. You have ODed on social justice an imaginary battle created by the left which can never be won. And yes, I shot 79 today, not bad for this early in the season. Nice day.

April 21, 2013 at 8:54 p.m.
patriot1 said...

Alpo says..."In 1974, eh? People do not change in your mind. They are always the same"

Now you are advocating they "may" have changed their mind? Ayers just said not long ago he wished he had done more and you yourself said you also wished he had done more....change their mind, for what? I don't think you realize what you spew from one post to the next.

April 21, 2013 at 8:59 p.m.
timbo said...

Benett is not funny. If He was funny he would find a lot of material in Obama and the Democrats. Talk about clams ...... Did you see the Democratic convention? What Bennett does is insult and exaggerate. This cartoon is obvious and without much thought. This one is just silly and insulting. To be picked for a Pulitzer by your political peers and cheerleaders means absolutely nothing.

The TFP should tget rid of this no talent socialist.

April 21, 2013 at 9:08 p.m.
Easy123 said...

patriot1,

Read the quote you used again. Maybe you'll notice your reading error.

You don't realize what you're actually reading, much less spewing.

April 21, 2013 at 9:11 p.m.
alprova said...

Maximus wrote: "Alprova you sure got a little pissy when I mentioned Obama's drone strikes."

Sir, I asked you to prove your claim. Nothing more and nothing less.

"Come on man, it only takes a few Islamic Terrorist hodgies and a few goats to make a village in Afghanistan or whatever other Middle Eastern hell hole Obama decides to light up with drones."

You do the Tango with waffles strapped onto your shoes every time you are cornered.

"But Alprova, I have to say your defense of the Boston Bombing brothers is classic comic magical mystery tour 60's social justice fantasy."

I have not defended those two for one second, but the one that is alive is entitled to defend himself in a court of law.

"I have always pegged you as a retired union guvment worker but actually now I think you are living in a nursing home for Elinsky rules for radical counter culture types."

Unlike yourself, I CAN prove who and what I am and as usual, you are full of stuff.

"I bet you have a little ear ring just like Bill Ayers and speak in effiminate professorial tones, just like Bill the unrepentent terrorist bomber."

Sorry to disappoint you, but I do not mark my body or adorn it with jewelry and I'm probably more a man than you will ever be.

"Remember, your boy crush President Obumer stated last week that anyone that bombs innocent people in the U.S. is a terrorist."

And not a soul in this forum has declared otherwise, including myself.

"Mark my word, that photo which apparently Alprova your nursing home did not have the TV station that revealed the pic. You need to check it out on the net. The 19 year old bomber with the hat turned around appears to have a smirk on his face standing right behind the little boy."

Oh, I've seen it.

"The mother is a convicted felon."

Isn't it funny that the mainstream press has not identified her as such? The mother is in Russia. The woman that was arrested and convicted may or may not be related to the brothers, but the Blaze has it all figured out.

"The father is a looney tunes in Russia and you, Alprova are defending these, in my dear Mothers words, trifling, trashy, people."

Who cares what you think or believe? You are dealing strictly in supposition and rumor.

"And yes, I shot 79 today, not bad for this early in the season. Nice day."

Let's meet in person. I'm sure you would love to collect $5,000 for simply proving that you are a thing you claim to be. Upon your request, I'll be happy to set up a temporary e-mail address to set something up between us.

April 21, 2013 at 9:15 p.m.
Easy123 said...

timboner,

A little butthurt, eh?

The truth hurts, timboner. All it takes is one cartoon from Clay Bennett to get your panties in a wad and for the incessant bitching and whining to commence under the heading "timbo said..."

You couldn't carry Clay Bennett's jock-strap. However, you do hold the Republican Party's jock very firmly between your cheek and gum.

April 21, 2013 at 9:17 p.m.
lightkeeper said...

@John Ross..You repub-lie-cons are always trying to twist the truth and confuse the public with your lying lunatic rantings..Republiecons are resposible for the Bush tax cuts, The Wrecked Economy, Starting Two Wars, Giving Tax Breaks and Entitlements to Corporations And Paying for it by Slashing Hard Earned Entitlements From the Working Poor And Middle Class, Destroying Government Agencies Ability To Function While They Hold Hostage and Steal Wealth And Money From The Country By Opening Business In Another Country Or Island To Keep From Paying Taxes Like The Great Steve Jobs Who Made Millions Off The Backs Of Foreign People By Paying Them Seventy Cents An Hour, Oh But Of Course Thats The Republiecon Capitalist Way..Screw Your Way To the Top And Dam Everybody Else, Throw Them In The Ovens And Roast Them Alive, And You Have The Sick Twisted Nerve To call Democrats And President Obama Communists

April 21, 2013 at 9:26 p.m.
dude_abides said...

jtu_63... Do you believe in God?

April 21, 2013 at 9:31 p.m.
alprova said...

patriot1 wrtote: "Now you are advocating they "may" have changed their mind?"

Ayers has expressed many regrets over the years, but has never backed away from the main reason he joined the Weather Underground, and I don't blame him one bit.

"Ayers just said not long ago he wished he had done more and you yourself said you also wished he had done more"

I did not elaborate, but I wish more had been done to have convinced those within the Government that conscription was absolutely wrong, AT THE TIME.

The violence back then HAS prevented another occurrence of drafting men or women into forced military service, only being briefly considered by the Bush Administration, and then dropped when people began to protest such a policy.

People all across the land have The Weather Underground to thank for preventing the Republican warmongers, in charge while GWB was in office, from attempting to force people to take up arms in a foreign nation.

You may not like it, but that is the way I see it.

"....change their mind, for what?"

Ah geez...you figure it out. The Bill Ayers of the 70's is no more. He has evolved into a respectable, responsible college professor.

Your mind is apparently closed to all but what you may run across on anti-Obama websites, where much of the crap spewed about Bill Ayers can be found.

"I don't think you realize what you spew from one post to the next."

Sir, not many people are more consistent than I try to be at all times.

April 21, 2013 at 9:31 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

JonRoss says: "Ayers is still peddling that crap from 1974 and Obama is using that crap as a template for his Adminstration. They are both filthy Communists."

I’m not into thought control and could care less what Ayers believes or doesn’t believe. He’s not an elected official and he is not trying to impose his beliefs onto the rest of us.

As for your Bircher/TeaParty accusations against President Obama, it was dishonest rhetoric when your party was peddling it with President Eisenhower and it’s dishonest rhetoric now.

No, my primary concerns are with some of these Republican politicians like Senators McCain and Graham. Clearly, the ideas they're peddling are a cause for concern. Juan Cole brought up a few of these issues just recently:

"Senators Lindsey Graham and John McCain (or as I refer to them, LindJohn) have demanded that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev be charged as an enemy combatant rather than tried as an American civilian.

This attempt to sidestep the U.S. Constitution by creating an alternative jurisdiction, and to try civilians in military courts, is a stride toward dictatorship.

It is precisely the tactic used by Egyptian dictator Hosni Mubarak, and the demand that the military stop arresting and trying civilians has been central to the country’s revolutionary reform movement.

Likewise, Bahrain has started trying civilians in military courts, as part of its authoritarian crackdown on its protest movement.

That exemplar of human rights, the Uganda regime, also resorts to this practice. So LindJohn want to put us in some pretty classy company."

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_designation_of_enemy_combatants_and_racism_20130421

April 21, 2013 at 9:33 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

On NPR’s ‘All Things Considered’ yesterday, Counterterrorism Correspondent Dina Temple Raston concludes that the Boston Marathon tragedy was more than likely “a domestic extremist attack” citing April as a “big month for anti-government, right-wing individuals.” your tax dollars at work

April 21, 2013 at 9:34 p.m.
patriot1 said...

Alpo spews.."Sir, not many people are more consistent than I try to be at all times."

You have been debunked so many times on here...I have done it several times myself. It gets to be like shooting fish in a barrel.

April 21, 2013 at 9:37 p.m.
alprova said...

patriot1 wrote: "You have been debunked so many times on here...I have done it several times myself. It gets to be like shooting fish in a barrel."

Everyone has a dream. The difference between myself and some, is that if I am proven to be incorrect, I'll fess up immediately, but you Sir, have not debunked me once, to the best of my recollection.

April 21, 2013 at 9:42 p.m.
lightkeeper said...

@John Ross, I think you right wing nuts cracked up for real when Mitt Romney Boy lost the election. More lunatic rantings. What the hell are you talking about, that makes no sense what so ever. To all You "Right Wing Nuts" they make medication for that ..its called Prozac you really need it.

April 21, 2013 at 9:57 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

JonRoss says: "Either way jihad boy will be food for worms within 18 months. And Barack Hussien Obama will be squirming like a stuck pig himself because there is no way he will be able to commute the death sentence without destroying the Democrat party."

Sure, sure, Jon Ross. I note that once again you’re ignoring the critical issues involved. In this case, why haven't these Republican Senators - McCain and Graham - demanded that any of these individuals be tried as enemy combatants?

"Paul Kevin Curtis stands accused (we don’t know if he is guilty) of sending a ricin-poisoned letter to President Barack Obama. Obama is not just any civilian but is the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of the United States. So if anyone should be charged as an enemy combatant, it should be Curtis.

Yet senators McCain and Graham have not suggested that step.

Peter Bergen sagely writes that an “FBI study reported that between January 1, 2007, and October 31, 2009, white supremacists were involved in 53 acts of violence, 40 of which were assaults directed primarily at African-Americans, seven of which were murders and the rest of which were threats, arson and intimidation. Most of these were treated as racially motivated crimes rather than political acts of violence, i.e. terrorism.”

He points out that in December of 2011, Kevin Harpham was sentenced to 32 years for planting a bomb at the site of a Martin Luther King, Jr., parade in Spokane, Washington. There isn’t any difference between Harpham and Tsarnaev. Both targeted a public event involving moving through the streets. Harpham was allegedly a member of a hate group, the National Alliance, founded by William Price, the author of ?The Turner Diaries. He was also interested in the Aryan Nation.

Then there was Wade Michael Page, who killed six persons, five of them of Sikh heritage and one a policeman. His was certainly an act of terrorism.

I am not aware that Senators McCain and Graham suggested that any of these individuals be tried as enemy combatants.”

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_designation_of_enemy_combatants_and_racism_20130421/

April 21, 2013 at 10:22 p.m.
patriot1 said...

Alpo opines..."but you Sir, have not debunked me once, to the best of my recollection."

Alpo, here's a couple for you:

  1. Your claim to be a "registered republican." Now to low information voters you may hang out with this might be over looked. As I pointed out, in Georgia or Tennessee one does not register to vote as a political party member, it's open registration, you just register. DEBUNKED!

  2. Your claim that Hobby Lobby stock was crashing and had been going down in value due to their conservative positions. I pointed out that Hobby Lobby is privately held and not publicly traded. Again, might work with some of the LoFos on here and in your circles, but you got DEBUNKED.

I really don't care, I had you pegged correctly long ago.

April 21, 2013 at 10:32 p.m.
Easy123 said...

patriot1,

That's some weak "debunking" you've got going on there. It's also quite ironic that you would refer to anyone else as a "low information voter". Look in the mirror.

I'm sure you wouldn't want to get into any of the truly numerous times you've been debunked here, would you?

April 21, 2013 at 11:03 p.m.
patriot1 said...

mtn laurel said....."This attempt to sidestep the U.S. Constitution by creating an alternative jurisdiction, and to try civilians in military courts, is a stride toward dictatorship"

Agreed. Boston and the county it's located in has prosecutors and DAs very capable of prosecuting a crime(s). Charge the person, grand jury and trial and sentence him if and when found guilty. The feds have to stick their nose in the tent in all facets of our lives anymore, just can't leave state issues to the states. It's going to be interesting just how convoluted this can become when Holder and his "just us" dept gets involved let alone a military court.

April 21, 2013 at 11:11 p.m.
alprova said...

patriot1 wrote: "Your claim to be a "registered republican." Now to low information voters you may hang out with this might be over looked. As I pointed out, in Georgia or Tennessee one does not register to vote as a political party member, it's open registration, you just register. DEBUNKED!"

And as I explained to you many times, I registered to vote when I was 18 years old, 36 years ago. I have always remembered registering as a Republican, but was very much in error in remembering that.

However, in every primary election, I do ask for and vote a Republican ballot.

Regardless of what you believe to be the case, I am solicited all the time by the Republican Party of Georgia for support. Therefore, despite the fact that Georgia has "open primaries," the fact that I select a Republican ballot is well known by them, for some reason.

"Your claim that Hobby Lobby stock was crashing and had been going down in value due to their conservative positions."

You need to review that. I never made any claim that any stock value for Hobby Lobby was crashing. I did a brief lookup to verify whether or not Hobby Lobby was a public company and the site I used made it appear as if it was indeed a public company.

Upon your repeated challenge, and upon taking a second, closer look, I discovered that the reference was highly misleading. I posted the site for your perusal and proof.

I retracted my mistake immediately.

"I pointed out that Hobby Lobby is privately held and not publicly traded. Again, might work with some of the LoFos on here and in your circles, but you got DEBUNKED."

Sir, you might believe that the two examples you offer discredit me in some manner, and that's fine with me. I have never claimed to be anything but a human being, and am subject to making mistakes like anyone else.

As I pointed out a little while ago, I am one of the few people in here who will fess up immediately when I am incorrect.

"I really don't care, I had you pegged correctly long ago."

Whatever, dead horse beater.

April 21, 2013 at 11:28 p.m.
patriot1 said...

Easy-ette says...."That's some weak "debunking" you've got going on there"

easy as 1-2-3 :)

April 21, 2013 at 11:29 p.m.
Easy123 said...

patriot1,

"easy as 1-2-3 :)"

Let's look at this objectively, shall we? You have a hankering for alprova and hang on his every word; even bringing up things from months ago in an attempt to initiate dialogue with him. You think I'm a woman and often try to flirt with me. That leaves only one question:

When are you going to officially come out of the closet, patriot1?

April 21, 2013 at 11:31 p.m.
BluesHarp said...

Clowns seem to be crowded in THIS tent as well, not so much defending the legions of Republican Buffoons and flying monkeys SO lamely pretending to be gynecologists, economists, constitutional scholars and ethicists, but proudly parroting the litany of specious and malevolent memes conjured from Rove's "Mighty Wurlitzer" of (very predictable) vitriolic delusions, serial character assassination and black-op hatchet-bytes. Hitler only had loudspeakers and radio. This digital disinformation ogre has 24-7 global networks and an army of overpaid sociopathic orcs in service to the aristocratic gilded elite standing on our necks, and Clown-Parrots lap it up and defend it like Pavlov's pooch.

What? No flaying of Nancy Pelosi, George Soros, Hillary Clinton or Eric Holder? Get with the script!

There's so much projection going on here, it seems like the Rave Theater on a Saturday night, with just as many thugs on the edge of violence. Calling an opponent on behavior you plainly exhibit is not an accepted debate strategy, Jasper....It is a clinical element of behavioral dysfunction.

Keep it up. Your wannabee-plutocrat fetish may speed all of us to the misery and early death of corporate serfdom more quickly than you can imagine. Texas leads the way, with a Republican Death panel being formed and rushed-through on Friday (Please recall the Wingnut-Bellowing on THIS issue, and who was accused. The insanity of Projection-Apery writ large.):

April 22, 2013 at 7:24 a.m.
conservative said...

So, it is pagan earth day and it is like, who cares? News is either non existent or sparse on the subject, and no toon. This is good!

I did find this advice from one of the worshippers. I guess the hospital business is slow in his area:

"Let me offer a few ideas: Refuse single-use bags, cups and other items. Get canvas grocery bags and reuse them."

Read more: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bs-ed-earth-day-20130422,0,5022175.story#ixzz2RBmfHjs4

April 22, 2013 at 7:56 a.m.
alprova said...

Pagan Earth Day?

Is there a Christian Earth Day?

April 22, 2013 at 8:11 a.m.
Maximus said...

Alprova, you can go ahead ans send the $5000 to the NRA since I would not waste my time meeting your sorry ass. I don't have to prove anything and I would recommend to all that invest to take a look at the leading personal, home, and business security firms since everyone from the NFL to Wallstreet will be beefing up their security after the Boston Islamic Terrorist Bombings. The insurance stocks will also be rising. As a free market capitalist that wants to stay on top of the food chain, you must invest when the timing is right and the stock market, right now is the place to be. I plan to make a lot of money today. How about you and Alprova you must understand, I spend $5,000 for a good night out on the town. Alprova, I hope you have a nice day sitting in your trailer "proving" things while whining about some uncles who got themselves killed in Nam, one of the few wars the U.S. lost due to idiot Democrat leadership! All we are saying is give peace a chance. Horse hockey!

April 22, 2013 at 8:17 a.m.
conservative said...

No!

Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Exodus 20:3

That is a direct quote from God himself so you can accept it.

Will you?

April 22, 2013 at 8:17 a.m.
Maximus said...

A comment on Clays clown tent. Can you imagine what scary clowns Harry Reid, Pelosi, Hillary, the Supreme Court Justice Ruth Baider Ginsberg, and Big Dike Janet Napolitano would make? Yikes! Gives me the creeps! Ya'll make a lot of money today................

April 22, 2013 at 8:23 a.m.
patriot1 said...

"I would recommend to all that invest to take a look at the leading personal, home, and business security firms......."

Max...thanks for the stock tips, but stay away from Hobby Lobby, per Alpo

April 22, 2013 at 8:35 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Bennett is not even trying anymore. This page is all about the visitors and the posts usually have more to do with current events than Bennett's cartoon. It is getting to the point that he is even irrelevant to his fans.

April 22, 2013 at 9:05 a.m.
alprova said...

Maximus wrote: "Alprova, you can go ahead ans send the $5000 to the NRA since I would not waste my time meeting your sorry ass."

Okey Dokey...I knew you were a fraud. In light of that, I hope you don't think that anyone will ever believe a thing you ever claim to be in the future.

"I don't have to prove anything and I would recommend to all that invest to take a look at the leading personal, home, and business security firms since everyone from the NFL to Wallstreet will be beefing up their security after the Boston Islamic Terrorist Bombings."

Oh my...a few weeks ago, you were a gold investor. Rosland Capital, I believe...one of the most heinous rip-off artists in the biz.

Do you really think anyone is going to take one word of advice from you?

"The insurance stocks will also be rising."

Aren't insurance companies all going to go broke because the Government is setting limits on what they can earn?

"As a free market capitalist that wants to stay on top of the food chain, you must invest when the timing is right and the stock market, right now is the place to be."

Given that the general consensus of opinion that stocks are currently over-valued, I'd say that right now may not be the best time to dump lots of cash into stocks. A market correction is predicted in the coming weeks.

"I plan to make a lot of money today."

I see. Planning a new career in the prostitution industry, are you?

"How about you and Alprova you must understand, I spend $5,000 for a good night out on the town."

Sure you do.

"Alprova, I hope you have a nice day sitting in your trailer "proving" things while whining about some uncles who got themselves killed in Nam, one of the few wars the U.S. lost due to idiot Democrat leadership!"

Not even that comment will get a rise out of me. I am a firm believer in Karma. That one will bite you in the butt.

You've been called on the carpet and you can't produce an ounce of proof to back up so much as one claim you have ever made.

Go ahead and lash out at me if you must, you poor, poor, pathetic, pathological lying putz. After all you have posted, you're nothing but a common forum troll.

"All we are saying is give peace a chance. Horse hockey!"

You armchair, Republican cheerleanding war drum beaters are the worst.

I'm sure it would have been "educational" to meet you in person.

Oh well...

April 22, 2013 at 9:09 a.m.
alprova said...

patriot1 wrote: "Max...thanks for the stock tips, but stay away from Hobby Lobby, per Alpo"

You're just not going to let it go, are you?

Here's the screen shot I briefly looked at when trying to determine whether or not Hobby Lobby was public;

http://finance.yahoo.com/quotes/Hobby-Lobby,IBM

I glanced at the name Hobby Lobby in RED. I saw a stock quotation below, and in error, assumed it pertained to Hobby Lobby. It was the current value for IBM, just as it appears today.

Can anyone else understand why that particular screen shot, at first glance, was misleading?

I goofed. I'm human. I retracted it when you challenged me and posted a link to the page on that day.

Let it go for Pete's sake.

That hard-on that you seem to have for me is getting just a little bit creepy.

You won. You were right. I was wrong. I fessed up.

What more do you want?

Let's try this;

Okay folks, patriot1 one has proven himself to be a superior human being in knowing without looking it up, that Hobby Lobby was not a public company. He's an ace at knowing that when you register in Georgia to vote, that you are not required to declare a party affiliation.

Don't make a mistake and admit it. He'll hound you every chance he gets.

Sheesh...

April 22, 2013 at 9:31 a.m.
dude_abides said...

BluesHarp... Scary bunch in Texas. Next, they'll be harvesting "Obama Organs."

April 22, 2013 at 9:32 a.m.
terrybham said...

Great cartoon Clay, as usual. Very true.

April 22, 2013 at 9:43 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

Marie Mason (born January 26, 1962) is an environmental activist from Cincinnati, Ohio, who in 2009 was sentenced to 22 years after admitting 13 counts of arson and property damage amounting to US$4 million.[1][2][3] Mason, a member of the Earth Liberation Front, was prosecuted for a 1999 attack on a building at Michigan State University, East Lansing, Michigan, that caused more than US$1 million in damages. ---automatic tenure at many universities

April 22, 2013 at 9:47 a.m.
miraweb said...

I am having a little trouble figuring out Lindsey Graham.

We are sure that Tsarnaev will never again see the light of day. We are sure that he will be prosecuted and that the death penalty will be sought in a case that will include at least four charges of murder and, at least, 180 charges of attempted murder.

What exactly is Graham planning to do?

Execute him twice?

If anything, Guantanamo has become the luxury resort of the U.S. prison system -- with no overcrowding, plenty of sunshine, and the best in medical care.

And in the Federal courts you can get a real conviction in something less than 10 years.

April 22, 2013 at 9:50 a.m.
Leaf said...

I spend $50 on a night out. Because I don't need prostitutes and cocaine. And I'm not overcompensating for a lack of certain other attributes.

I'm not a big fan of this cartoon. Sure, the the Republican big tent has been crowded by TEA party clowns of late, but I think somewhere in there are still bow-tie wearing, well educated, bespectacled fiscal conservatives. At least I hope so.

April 22, 2013 at 9:56 a.m.
dude_abides said...

I hope maximus assembles cars better than he assembles his "Life Lies."

Here's a thought, Maximucil. Impress us by purchasing some "air time" during, oh let's say, Riverbend. Get your lofty message up there where it belongs! You could shut us all up for less than one of your nights on the town!

http://www.aerialbanners.com/

But, for God's sake, take a proofreader with you!

April 22, 2013 at 9:57 a.m.
ibshame said...

"miraweb said... I am having a little trouble figuring out Lindsey Graham. We are sure that Tsarnaev will never again see the light of day. We are sure that he will be prosecuted and that the death penalty will be sought in a case that will include at least four charges of murder and, at least, 180 charges of attempted murder.

What exactly is Graham planning to do?

Execute him twice?"

I don't think Graham knows exactly what it is he plans to do, however I'm sure in the next few days he and John McCain along with all the other nutjob wingnuts will somehow put the blame for this tragedy on President Obama. Of that I have no doubt

April 22, 2013 at 10:31 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

BigRidgePatriot says: "This page is all about the visitors and the posts usually have more to do with current events than Bennett's cartoon."

The visitors?. . .For heaven’s sake. . . And here I thought the Clay’s clever cartoon was about a political party that yaps a lot about the need to be more socially inclusive in filling their big tent, but continues to limit admission to clowns only.

April 22, 2013 at 10:44 a.m.
alprova said...

I still laugh at the thought of someone claiming to blow $5,000 on a night on the town.

I know many rich people and they would cringe at the thought of blowing that amount of money at one time.

Most all of them I know squeeze George until his face turns blue.

April 22, 2013 at 10:47 a.m.
Maximus said...

alprova....I did take note of the fact that you did not challenge my very true comment that Democrat LBJ and the liberal news media lost the Vietnam. LBJ tried to micro manage the war as the meddling big government bureacrat that he was using Sec. Def. McNamara as the fall guy. Also, flower children like you and the liberal press helped post a LOSS for the U.S. and the brave soldiers who fought and died there. As for gold, I buy it to pass on to my kids and to be used as gifts. I am a coin collector also and like the look of the gold coins. Moving along, the insurance stocks will continue to grow especially BCBS since Obama has no idea how to administer and implement Obamascare. Blue Cross is currenlty hiring and training hundreds of new insurance agents to meet the demand of those being forced to buy health insurance. Again, Obama is about getting paid, and his crony capitalism will create great wealth for those family businesses like mine plugged into the Obamcare implementation cycle. On cover of this week's Baron's....Dow 16,000! "our latest Big Money poll indicates the Dow ccould hit that level by the middle of next year. Why money managers are bullish on stocks, bearish on bonds. The case for tech." As for Dude and buying banner space at Riverbend...too much pot this weekend Dude? WTF? Very funny!

April 22, 2013 at 11:03 a.m.
miraweb said...

Somehow it just doesn't seem that far to walk to get from clowns in the GOP to Senator Lindsey Graham.

April 22, 2013 at 11:05 a.m.
miraweb said...

Maxi writes:

Moving along, the insurance stocks will continue to grow especially BCBS since Obama has no idea how to administer and implement Obamascare. Blue Cross is currenlty hiring and training hundreds of new insurance agents to meet the demand . . .

Ah - so you're saying, the markets are happy and the "job creators" are happy.

Help me out - where is the down side?

April 22, 2013 at 11:08 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Maximus says: “A comment on Clays clown tent. Can you imagine what scary clowns Harry Reid, Pelosi, Hillary, the Supreme Court Justice Ruth Baider Ginsberg, and Big Dike Janet Napolitano would make?

To date, I’ve yet to hear any of these people propose anything that would violate the oath they took to support our laws and the U.S. Constitution, which tells me they are far more worthy of our trust that most of these Republican politicians.

This week it’s Republican Senators Graham and McCain who are trying to toss the Constitution out the window. A few weeks ago, it was a couple of North Carolina Representatives sponsoring a bill designed to adopt an official state religion. Then, of course, there were those lawmakers in Mississippi who wanted to establish a special committee to decide which federal laws their state would or would not follow. And how about all of those Republican politicians who want to end birthright citizenship to children who are born in the U.S?

I could provide more examples, of course, but I believe any reasonable person will get my point. You may not like Reid, Pelosi, Hillary, Supreme Court Justice Ruth Baider Ginsberg, and Janet Napolitano, but each is honoring their oath.

April 22, 2013 at 11:09 a.m.
Maximus said...

Again, Joe Biden and Janet Napolitano as clowns would be very scary. Sen. Lindsey Graham (A former Army officer and lawyer by the way.) is right....during WWII those American's conspiring with the German's were hung as war criminals. The piece of crap apparently waking up in the Boston hospital should be held for questioning as an enemy combatant and then given a military trial and then executed. Even the liberal Democrat Mayor of Boston and the Gov. of Mass agreees. It is not about his constitutional right to a lawyer and a trial for this offense. The war time laws apply, no question.

April 22, 2013 at 11:11 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

If people on the Right are supposedly racist anti-Muslim bigots, why did they applaud so loudly when Uncle Ruslan took the stage?

April 22, 2013 at 11:20 a.m.
miraweb said...

I have to wonder where the idea of a military trial - a trial reserved for those who have taken arms on behalf of their country - somehow is now seen as less prestigous than the trial of a common criminal.

The idea of a military trial comes from the English right of a "trial by your peers."

The nobility could only be tried with a jury of nobles. Commoners by commoners. Soldiers by soldiers.

I don't think these yahoos have earned the right to the honor of a military trial.

April 22, 2013 at 11:32 a.m.
Maximus said...

Miraweb....yes the economy will improve for those "in the know" financially but since most industries are going to cut back due to Obamacare and other uncertainties, only the select few will benefit especially those businesses that cow tow to Obama. As for the uninformed voter, EBT Card/low income subsidy crowd that thought Obama was their savior....not so much. Their economy will continue to decline as they will receive no "social justice" from Obmama. An example...so my "reproductive rights" were protected and I get free birth control pills. How does that help my bank account? So a gay can marry a gay.....does that help me pay the rent or grow the economy? Maybe...probably not. Earth Day...does that pay my kids private school tuition? Not. As always with Barry The Welfare Pimp and the Liberalized Dems....symbolism over substance except for the select few and Barry and Michelle will get paid. Miss Michelle loves her Gucci!

April 22, 2013 at 11:35 a.m.
dude_abides said...

Is that a NO, maximus? As important as it is for you to try to impress everyone here, I'd think you would jump at the chance to rub it in our faces. It's a chance for you to prove you don't work on an assembly line, that you don't skim across the surface Googling, pasting, and paraphrasing. You're a fraud (Vanderbilt spelling, apparently, would be frod), and you're impotent to prove otherwise. You talk like money is nothing to you, but I think it just doesn't exist for you. The only way you would spend $5000 for a night on the town is if it included bail money.

April 22, 2013 at 11:35 a.m.
Maximus said...

I type fast and sometimes the spelling goes by the wayside. Busted. A trial for a confirmed military enemy of the U.S. such as the piece of excrement Islamic Terrorist currently in a Boston Hospital is a much more efficient process when we want to get information from the perp. Miraweb its not about honor or some such crap its about the defense of our country against those that want to harm us. You need to cowboy up girlfriend.

April 22, 2013 at 11:41 a.m.
miraweb said...

Four and a half days from crime to custody ain't half bad.

Some folks seem to think that an interrogation team can only visit people in the Carribean.

Turns out they can also talk to people in hospitals. There seem to be these amazing things called "airplanes" that can take the team where it's needed.

Who knew?

April 22, 2013 at 11:47 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Maximus says: “Sen. Lindsey Graham (A former Army officer and lawyer by the way.) is right....during WWII those American's conspiring with the German's were hung as war criminals.”

But the U.S. and Germany were officially at war, Maximus. How is this applicable? To my knowledge, the U.S. government has not declared war on our citizenry, including those that commit heinous crimes. Surely, Senator Graham - A former Army officer and lawyer - doesn’t believe he has the power to declare war on the U.S. citizenry? Does he?

April 22, 2013 at 12:01 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

"If anything, Guantanamo has become the luxury resort of the U.S. prison system -- with no overcrowding, plenty of sunshine, and the best in medical care." - miraweb

You're kidding, right? Over half the prisoners at Gitmo are presently on hunger strike, having reached the decision that they would rather die than live out the rest of their lives there. And over half of those there have actually been cleared of all charges but our government claims to have nowhere to send them. Gitmo is serving no purpose whatsoever, other than to symbolize how the U.S. has become as despicable as any terrorists we claim to be warring against.

April 22, 2013 at 12:08 p.m.
Maximus said...

mtnlaurel..if you consider the Radical Islamic Terrorist turd at war with the United States killing and maiming innocent children and adults currently in hospital, a law abiding citizen and you are so ignorant you do not understand that there is a difference between civil constitutional law and wartime law in the United States then you are liberal hysterical nit wit that needs to go pick flowers and leave the debate. The laurel is in bloom go pick some you freak. The Tzarmov (how ever you spell it)brothers declared war on the citizenry sweet cheeks.

April 22, 2013 at 12:30 p.m.
Maximus said...

Rickaroo...only a queer like you would rail against the U.S. at this time. WAL.....What A Loser!

April 22, 2013 at 12:32 p.m.
miraweb said...

First - I agree that GITMO serves no good purpose and does much harm. It should either be closed or declared a U.S. territory with all U.S. laws as valid there as anywhere else.

There are more than 100 people in custody who have been cleared for release. They are now diplomatic pawns in somebody's sad little political game.

The hunger strike is related to both the lack of trials and to a specific incident where prisoners' belongings were searched and their Korans damaged.

Any prison can, and will from time to time, have a bad CO and idiot guards. People rotate in and out.

A prison with half its population on hunger strike is a place where something has gone very, very wrong.

There is only one thing preventing the courts from taking action to remedy the abuses at GITMO.

That one thing is the - clowns - in the U.S. Senate who believe that GITMO somehow makes them look tough and manly when they, in fact, failed the country badly on their own watch.

April 22, 2013 at 12:35 p.m.
miraweb said...

That said - living conditions at GITMO are far better than many mainland prisons.

April 22, 2013 at 12:38 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

"After all it was data obtained from water boarding interragations which helped our fearless leader, Barry Da Welfare Pimp kill OBL."

Alprova responds - “Gee...I thought that came about when a Pakistani Doctor ratted OBL's whereabouts to the CIA. He wasn't water boarded, was he?”


“The real story was that in order to put the puzzle of intelligence together that led us to Bin Laden, there were a lot of pieces out there that were a part of that puzzle. Yes, some of it came from some of the tactics that were used at the time, interrogation tactics (waterboarding) that were used.“ - Leon Panetta

Yes it did help although it was not the totality of where the information came from.

The doctor Shakil Afridi helped the CIA run a fake vaccine program in Abbottabad, Pakistan, in order to confirm Osama presence in the city by obtaining DNA samples. He had no prior knowledge of Osama’s presence but was hired by the CIA to collect DNA that they could analyze.

It was a nice touch by the Obama administration to essentially abandon the doctor to his fate. He was arrested trying to escape Pakistan after the raid and sentenced to 33 years in prison supposedly on other charges. Obama has done very little to help him be released but he was just a “hired hand” after all.

April 22, 2013 at 12:41 p.m.
miraweb said...

Here is what it looks like when a court notices prisons abuses - and has the power to fix them:

http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_23007479/court-rejects-governors-bid-end-judge-control-over

April 22, 2013 at 12:43 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Maximus says: “if you consider the Radical Islamic Terrorist turd at war with the United States killing and maiming innocent children and adults currently in hospital, a law abiding citizen and you are so ignorant you do not understand that there is a difference between civil constitutional law and wartime law in the United States then you are liberal hysterical nit wit.”

So, perhaps, you can explain how the acts of these two men differ from the terrorist activities of Timothy Mcveigh who detonated that truck bomb in front of the federal building in Oklahoma City, which killed 168 people and injured over 800 people. McVeigh was convicted and executed without any problems, and I'm confident justice will be served again.

No, I think Senator McCain and Senator Graham are a couple of grandstanding Republican politicians who are just looking for a way to get their faces in front of the TV cameras. Clearly, there is no evidence at this point to show that the crimes that these particular terrorists have committed are any different than crimes of Timothy McVeigh.

April 22, 2013 at 12:52 p.m.
Maximus said...

Wall Street Journal: Tsarnaeva relatives recognized photos of Tamerlan and his little brother on the day the photos were released but did not call authorities. Thanks a lot a holes! Because of you, several cops were killed.

Boy oh boy you liberals are really sad the bombers were not tax day protesters like Barry first predicted. Paul Kruger trying his best to change the subject by calling for a Carbon Tax. Idiot!

April 22, 2013 at 12:53 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

I understand what you're saying, miraweb. I honestly don't know how Gitmo compares to other prisons. The only one I know from personal experience is Silverdale (had to serve 48 hours for a DUI back in 1996; and of course, that's not really enough time to gain a true perspective of it or of any prison). But I think it's a pretty broad assumption, without having first-hand knowledge, to claim that Gitmo is far better than any mainland prison. Just sayin'.

April 22, 2013 at 12:59 p.m.
ibshame said...

"Maximus said... Rickaroo...only a queer like you would rail against the U.S. at this time. WAL.....What A Loser Maximus said... As always with Barry The Welfare Pimp"

Sometimes it is truly amazing to just sit back and read the rantings of people like you. Amazing because you are the kind that's the first to accuse someone of not being patriotic or supportive of the United States and then in the next statement you call the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES a welfare pimp. I have no doubt the irony of this escapes you but it's there for all to see and read. I have no doubt you see this as an example of free speech. Yes, it is definitely FREE SPEECH and your feelings about President Obama are yours to express because we live in a society that places a high value on such privileges. But the question that begs to be answered is this: why do you and those like you have such a hard time understanding that others in the world see the United States as a whole(that includes your kind) in the same negative view that you hold President Obama?

And it's not just others in the world. Do you not believe there are people in this country who would take their hatred of the President to the same level of those terrorists in Boston if given the chance? Look at the teabaggers a few years back who would show up at rallies brandishing their weapons and carrying posters depicting President Obama as some sort of Hitler reincarnation. Look at the dumba*s legislator from Tennessee who posted a "WELCOME TO TENNESSEE" poster on the web with a gun on the poster. You see these kind of people are the losers and truly Mr. Bennett has it correct when he depicts that tent with Repubs in it because most of them have not accepted the fact they lost the White House in November of 2008 and again in 2012 because the American People saw them as clowns. What else could account for the fact over 90% of the American People are in favor of UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR GUN OWNERSHIP BUT 90% OF THE REPUBLICAN CLOWNS VOTED AGAINST IT? The next time you want to label someone a loser, you should take a long hard look in the mirror

April 22, 2013 at 12:59 p.m.
miraweb said...

Keep trolling along, m'dear Maxi.

Who knows - maybe some of those Obamacare jobs will open up and you'll have something real to do during the day.

April 22, 2013 at 1:02 p.m.
Maximus said...

MtnLa....McVeigh, another turd, pleaded guilty. This piss aunt will lawyer up and create a show trial if we let him. No, he is a war criminal and we want to know where Tamerlan trained so that Obama can send over the F-111's and the drones to burn down the camp and campers. Sen. Graham is right. The only thing Islamic Terrorist's understand is force. As TR said.."Walk softly but carry a big stick." We need to use our big stick on those that trained these two. A destructive message needs to be sent to the Islamic terrorist training camps or it will be a difficult summer. Even Obama knows that. Good they have not read his rights to him yet although Obama might cave and give him a criminal trial. That will be fine too because the turd will burn sooner or later.

April 22, 2013 at 1:02 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

No reason to try bomber as enemy combatant.

April 22, 2013 at 1:05 p.m.
Maximus said...

ibshame....Obama is a welfare pimp. "Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official." One of my favorites from Teddy Roosevelt a strong Republican. OK ya'll my meeting is starting. This will be very profitable $$$$$. See ya.

April 22, 2013 at 1:07 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

Well said, ibshame. I personally don't pay any attention any more to the juvenile rantings of that little twat. He has the mentality of a spoiled 10 yr. old. I consider it a waste of time to even acknowledge his imbecilic comments.

April 22, 2013 at 1:12 p.m.
alprova said...

Maximus wrote: "alprova....I did take note of the fact that you did not challenge my very true comment that Democrat LBJ and the liberal news media lost the Vietnam."

That's a matter of opinion and I was too young to remember very much about the war, so you go ahead and claim whatever suits your fancy.

"Also, flower children like you and the liberal press helped post a LOSS for the U.S. and the brave soldiers who fought and died there."

Whatever...

"As for gold, I buy it to pass on to my kids and to be used as gifts. I am a coin collector also and like the look of the gold coins."

You just can't help but add a new lie every time you post.

"Moving along..."

Oh please...dazzle us with more of your bullstuff...

"Again, Obama is about getting paid, and his crony capitalism will create great wealth for those family businesses like mine plugged into the Obamcare implementation cycle."

That's right Maxipad...you're Obama's Beotch.

April 22, 2013 at 1:13 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Maximusty,

"send over the F-111's"

The F-111 was retired by the United States Air Force in 1998. You're a moron.

"As TR said.."Walk softly but carry a big stick."

The quote is "Speak softly and carry a big stick". Again, you're a moron.

"We need to use our big stick on those that trained these two."

And you're calling Rickaroo "queer"? LMFAO!

"A destructive message needs to be sent to the Islamic terrorist training camps or it will be a difficult summer."

There is no proof that either of the brothers were trained at any "Islamic terrorist training camp". That "difficult summer" is your wet dream. You have to push the idea that terrorist attacks are back on the rise so you can place the blame on President Obama. It isn't working. Again, you're a moron.

"Good they have not read his rights to him yet although Obama might cave and give him a criminal trial."

Another instance of your ignorance. You have absolutely no clue how any of this works.

If I were you, I'd call Vanderbilt up right now and ask for my money back. Your ignorance is palpable.

April 22, 2013 at 1:14 p.m.
miraweb said...

Rickaroo -

You may be right. The cushy prisons where former Wall Street gurus and convicted congresscritters serve may be a touch classier than the digs at GITMO.

Heck - Tom Delay had a three year money laundering sentence two years ago and just hasn't been able to find his way to the front gates yet. No doubt he made it to his Texas sugar daddy Bob Perry's funeral last week.

After you've washed a man's money, you really should go to the funeral.

Too big to fail and too corrupt to jail.

April 22, 2013 at 1:18 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Maximus says: “we want to know where Tamerlan trained so that Obama can send over the F-111's and the drones to burn down the camp and campers. Sen. Graham is right. The only thing Islamic Terrorist's understand is force.”

Trained? You can't be serious, Maximus. I’ve repeatedly heard on the news that anyone can obtain the information needed to build the weapons that were used in this particular case on the internet – particularly right wing websites. Shall we direct Senator McCain and Senator Graham's big sticks and drones to the location of these right wing websites?

April 22, 2013 at 1:25 p.m.
conservative said...

The Ice Age was coming, the Ice Age was coming!

So believed by gloom and doomer ecologist Kenneth Watt who proclaimed on the first earth day in 1970:

“The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”

April 22, 2013 at 1:35 p.m.
miraweb said...

My guess is Our Maxi is really a "home-schooler" whose parents aren't too bothered with the "schoolin' " or "being home" parts. Does anyone over the age of 8 uses "$$$$$$" in a serious sentence?

April 22, 2013 at 1:38 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

alprova - “I have read nothing, anywhere, to indicate that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev has left this country

So all this hoopla about radical Islamic indoctrination just doesn't seem to fit Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. His brother seems to have been radicalized and he quite possibly influenced Dzhokhar and convinced him to join in a very despicable act”


So you have to leave the country to be indoctrinated into radical Islam? Maybe the Islamists should open some branch indoctrination centers in this country and save the travel expenses. Maybe they could start some on-line programs like the University of Phoenix. Of course graduates from there would not be trusted to perform any of the real terrorism but only get coffee and make copies.

April 22, 2013 at 1:41 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JonRoss,

"You have five of the most disoriented babbling lefty regulars here whipped into a froth with their collective panties firmly up their butt cracks. And they have not laid a hand on you yet. Keep up the good work."

More proof of your psychosis.

April 22, 2013 at 1:45 p.m.
miraweb said...

Dutch Shell will be very disappointed. They are absolutely counting on those ice-free Artic summers that are scheduled for 2050.

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2013//20130412_arcticseaice.html

But, what would an oil company know about global warming, eh?

April 22, 2013 at 1:45 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JonRoss,

"And you don't have to leave the country anymore to receive instruction in vicious anti-Americanism. You just have to enroll at one of our wonderful publicly funded universities."

How would you know what is taught at a publicly-funded university? You've never attended one. Oh wait, I know! You're just spouting that Rick Santorum "university indoctrination" propaganda. Only uneducated/ignorant people a.k.a. Republicans demonize higher learning and education.

Bask in your ignorance, little Jonny.

April 22, 2013 at 1:48 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

mountainlaurel said...

“I’ve repeatedly heard on the news that anyone can obtain the information needed to build the weapons that were used in this particular case on the internet – particularly right wing websites.

Shall we direct Senator McCain and Senator Graham's big sticks and drones to the location of these right wing websites?”


It is the right wing thats really behind this, isn’t it? Even though the men are most likely Islamists, they are right wing Islamists. Their beliefs are all anti-liberal so what else could they be but Muslim Teabaggers.

I think you have broken through on the issue of who to blame that other lefties just couldn’t articulate even though they already knew who was at fault.

Right?

April 22, 2013 at 1:55 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

alprova - “You are presuming them both to be Islamic terrorists. It's rather stupid to make such an assumption until all the evidence is in.”


You mean how the left always waits until all the evidence is in before they blame the right for any act of violence or terrorism. Just like they did for this attack when they made no insinuation at all that it was probably carried out by right wing fanatics.

Right?

April 22, 2013 at 2:07 p.m.
acerigger said...

Easy123 said...(to maxi)"If I were you, I'd call Vanderbilt up right now and ask for my money back. Your ignorance is palpable." Funniest line I've heard today. Talk about hitting the nail on the head!! roflmao!

April 22, 2013 at 2:09 p.m.
dude_abides said...

JFG36... Do you believe in God?

April 22, 2013 at 2:21 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

“I say ship him to Cuba and let the water boarding begin."

alprova’s response - “That will never happen. If it can happen to him, it can happen to any one of us, for any reason at all.”


You mean like when the president’s administration claims it has a legal right in certain circumstances to kill an American citizen on American soil without due process.

Yes they have backed down from that claim but only due to the controversy that it caused.

If they feel that they can kill us at will, surely they feel they can short circuit the legal process in any way they choose if the media gets on board and spins it to their advantage.

April 22, 2013 at 2:45 p.m.
degage said...

suspect has been charged. Conspiring to use weapon of mass destruction against persons and property in U.S. resulting in death.

April 22, 2013 at 2:52 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

dude_abides said...

JFG36... Do you believe in God?


I don't even believe in you.

However I do care for a well prepared and presented meal followed by a quality adult beverage and cigar.

Maybe that's God after all.

April 22, 2013 at 2:53 p.m.
dude_abides said...

It IS you!

April 22, 2013 at 3:01 p.m.
alprova said...

A female smoking a cigar is a definite turn-off, but then she's not into guys, because she wants to be one.

April 22, 2013 at 3:05 p.m.
alprova said...

dude_abides wrote: "it is you!"

Oh yeah...it's her alright.

April 22, 2013 at 3:07 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

acerigger said...

Easy123 said...(to maxi)"If I were you, I'd call Vanderbilt up right now and ask for my money back. Your ignorance is palpable." Funniest line I've heard today. Talk about hitting the nail on the head!! roflmao!


Not according to alprova:

“Every time you have the audacity to attack someone else's education level, you wind up proving your own lacking in that department.”

He seems to be contemptuous of your lack of education as well.

April 22, 2013 at 3:07 p.m.
alprova said...

Don't feed the troll, in her new leopard skin suit. It's obvious that she is busting to crank up and hit at everything that posts.

Acerigger knows I have not one problem with what he posts and I consider him to bew quite educated.

Ma'am, you could learn a thing or two if you would sit on the sidelines and watch for awhile.

April 22, 2013 at 3:10 p.m.
dude_abides said...
  1. Haslamic Terrorism is truly a scourge and must be stopped.

  2. Glad to see Lindsey Graham eat his words re: FBI

  3. Jt6gR3hM answers entities it doesn't believe in. That's faith.

April 22, 2013 at 3:12 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

Is the universe you guys inhabit so insular that any change is reason to be suspicious that someone is involved in a conspiracy against you.

I don't know what kind of mind games the person you think I am played on you to make you so paranoid but I would sure like to reference some of their writings.

Please forward some hint as how to access that information. It could be very valuable for future use.

April 22, 2013 at 3:17 p.m.
limric said...

My my my, Lowbrow revisionist history being espoused by professional grade chickenhawks to distract from their failed ideology and empty lives is indeed a wonderment. Such prevarication is quite reminiscent of a north eastern low tide, or can be defined as a form of literary flatulence.

Across the windswept waves of the sea,

Fighting the stalwart battle is for YOU, Not for me.

Into the fray you sail, Onward Admiral Perry

Fear not, I’ll be here,

Making peanut butter & jelly.

April 22, 2013 at 3:18 p.m.
ibshame said...

Merriam Webster's Dictionary defines terror as 1) a state of intense fear:Fright 2)one that inspires fear syn panic, consternation, dread, alarm, dismay, horror, trepidation. Terrorize is defined as 1)to fill with terror: scare 2): to coerce by threat or violence:syn terrify, frighten, alarm,startle

If all of the above definitions of terror and terrorize are to be true then why was there not a call for the following to be tried as terrorists: James Holmes - Aurora Colorado- 12 killed, 59 injured did he not invoke fear, consternation,horror, trepediation for his victims? What about Jared Loughner - Tucson, Arizona - 6 killed, 14 injured, or Now deceased Adam Lanza - Newtown, Conn. - 26 killed, 2 wounded. What makes these horrific crimes any less of a terrorist act than what the brothers in Boston did? The two brothers certainly killed fewer but most certainly injured more.

Of course, it must be the method the brothers used to kill their victims as opposed to the other murderers. Evidently, killing more victims with high powered guns and clips that hold 30 rounds is seen as less heinous than using a pressure cooker as a bomb.

One thing is certain you don't have to have a background check to buy a pressure cooker and now thanks to the clowns of the Republican Party a stronger background check is not needed to keep guns from the hands of criminals and the mentally unbalanced.

So let's hear it for Lindsay Graham, he knows a terrorist when he sees one - not by the body count but by the method that is used such as a pressure cooker and not an Assault Weapon

April 22, 2013 at 3:21 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

This is just great.

I don't have to exert much effort at all to disturb your cloistered existences.

I just have to remind you of someone you have had a difficult relationship with.

Every advantage is welcomed.

April 22, 2013 at 3:23 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Jt6gR3hM said... "Please forward some hint as(sic) how to access that information."

Just read the musings of maximus. He's a pretty reasonable facsimile of the person which we, in our "insular universe," are referencing. LMaO

April 22, 2013 at 3:31 p.m.
ibshame said...

"Jt6gR3hM said... This is just great. I don't have to exert much effort at all to disturb your cloistered existences. I just have to remind you of someone you have had a difficult relationship with."

It's really kind of sad for people like you to be ignored. Evidently you finally realized no one was going to respond to your many, many, clippings from your right wing rags and no one really wanted to spend time making you look any sillier than you already did so they just ignored you. It's sad because it didn't take long for anyone who has read your posts to pick up on your style right away. Maybe they never told you this back in Composition 101 everyone has a style and after awhile it's easy to discern if you know what you're reading. It's why teachers (long before computer sites gave them the capablility of typing in a few words) are able to catch their students plagiarizing others' works. People develop a certain style. But if it makes you feel any better you will still be ignored just under a new name. LOL

April 22, 2013 at 3:45 p.m.
timbo said...

slEasy321....You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on your fat butt.

April 22, 2013 at 3:48 p.m.
dude_abides said...

timbo... How much time, per day, do you spend thinking about the size, and/or contour, of other men's butts?

April 22, 2013 at 3:55 p.m.
Easy123 said...

timboner,

I would not trust anything you believe to be real truth no matter what it was. Your deceit and blatant ignorance has been noted far too many times on these threads for any sane person to take you seriously no matter what the subject matter.

April 22, 2013 at 4:18 p.m.
Easy123 said...

The full charges against Dzhokhar Tsarnaev:

"One count of using and conspiring to use a weapon of mass destruction (namely, an improvised explosive device or IED) against persons and property within the United States resulting in death, and one count of malicious destruction of property by means of an explosive device resulting in death."


According to the U.S. attorney's office in Boston, the judge advised Tsarnaev of his rights and the charges against him. Tsarnaev declined to answer bail questions and agreed to a probable cause hearing, set for May 30.

"Court is satisfied that the defendant is alert and able to respond to the charges," the criminal complaint unsealed Monday read. Tsarnaev, who had been detained by the FBI, is now in the custody of U.S. marshals.

“Although our investigation is ongoing, today’s charges bring a successful end to a tragic week for the city of Boston, and for our country,” U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said in a statement. “Our thoughts and prayers remain with each of the bombing victims and brave law enforcement professionals who lost their lives or suffered serious injuries as a result of this week’s senseless violence. Thanks to the valor of state and local police, the dedication of federal law enforcement and intelligence officials, and the vigilance of members of the public, we’ve once again shown that those who target innocent Americans and attempt to terrorize our cities will not escape from justice. We will hold those who are responsible for these heinous acts accountable to the fullest extent of the law.”

Earlier Monday, White House press secretary Jay Carney said Tsarnaev would not be held as enemy combatant.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-terror-charges-filed-173308381.html

April 22, 2013 at 4:32 p.m.
May said...

I'm not really sure how Clay Benett won an award.. I've seen his cartoons for a while and it's mostly 'democrats good, republicans bad'. I guess I might be missing the point of a political cartoon? It seems to me that his cartoons lack creativity. I don't like either party, but there are issues out there that he could be expressing. Like, there are more than just two parties despite what is often expressed in politics, and there are issues within both major parties to which cause conflict with their members. Like I said, I might be missing the point here but it seems he has a serious vendetta against everything republican.

April 22, 2013 at 5:06 p.m.
dude_abides said...

May said... "I don't like either party,"

That means you are a Republican, May.

April 22, 2013 at 5:09 p.m.
fairmon said...

A bigger tent please, need room for 535 clowns and cages for 9 dangerous animals..

April 22, 2013 at 5:11 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

May, you ARE missing the point of a political or editorial cartoon. Clay has won several awards, and has been nominated for more. This is how you know which side you tend: If a cartoon is funny, you tend to match the political persuasion of the cartoonist. If it is pointless, insulting or comes across as whiny, you are of the opposite persuasion. If you don't get it, (and sometimes I don't understand cartoons) it is an inside joke (pertains to a specific profession or group), it is too cerebral (that happens to me), it hits too close to home, or you don't have a sense of humor.

April 22, 2013 at 5:13 p.m.
May said...

re: dude_abides

I'm not a Republican. I actually lean more toward Democrats then I do Republicans, but I never registered to vote because I don't like either. And I don't like either because they have their pros and cons as does anything, but instead of having completely opposite white and back views about things they should compromise instead of fighting with eachother and find common ground within a gray area.

re: Ikeithlu

I guess you're right on that. I've only looked at Clay Benett's stuff on the newspaper for about a year now, he might have done better. Some of his stuff does point out obvious flaws and issues that Republicans botch, but for most of the cartoons I've seen it just seems to emanate hate in a way that comes across as 'I'm red, you're blue' type of deal.

April 22, 2013 at 5:30 p.m.
limric said...

Quote of the day: ”If they feel that they can kill us at will, surely they feel they can short circuit the legal process in any way they choose if the media gets on board and spins it to their advantage.”

That quote, offered by Jt6gR3hM is quite correct. And if I may be so bold; if not struck down by the Supreme Court, a governmentally sanctioned assassination (of a US citizen) will occur within the borders of the United States before the end of the decade. Federal law against such acts, the Bill of Rights and various strictures of international laws of war are becoming meaningless to a government ‘Of the People’ whose leaders deem themselves above the law – by decree.

I posted the video below late yesterday, but considering the rancor of today’s disagreements, some perspective is overdue - again.

BLOWBACK! Learn what it means, and more importantly - why.

April 22, 2013 at 5:37 p.m.
timbo said...

lkeithlu.......The difference in poking fun at the other side is the attitude in which it is done.

First of all, this cartoon is not funny, to anyone. It is just preaching to the choir who likes Bennett to insult the right. No humor whatsoever.

Second, the Pulitzer Prize is a liberal award. Here are the statistics from Wikipedia,

"Some critics of the Pulitzer Prize have accused the organization of favoring those who support liberal causes or oppose conservative causes. Syndicated columnist L. Brent Bozell said that the Pulitzer Prize has a "liberal legacy", particularly in its prize for commentary.[16] He pointed to a 31-year period in which only five conservatives won prizes for commentary. The claim is also supported by a statement from the 2010 Pulitzer Prize winner for commentary, Kathleen Parker: "It's only because I'm a conservative basher that I'm now recognized."[17]

Since this "prize" is not objective and obviously biased it means NOTHING. It is just a bunch of liberals picking the best "insulter" they can find and giving him an award.

Bennett is a talented artist, but is intellectually barren. To be significant to EVERYONE, he would have to be a lot more creative. He probably laughs his head off because you libs think that this amateurish stuff is good. He can serve you dog crap and you just eat it up. You guys are as intellectually stunted as he is.

The last one about the big tent has no irony, no pizzazz, it is just an immature swipe at the other side. There are plenty of clowns in both parties to go around but after seeing the democrats convention and some of the speakers, I think you have the Republicans beat.

The Pulitzer Prize is "buddy ball" at it's worst. It is worse than meaningless.

April 22, 2013 at 5:38 p.m.
timbo said...

limeric....."dogs and cat,..living together..." Something we agree on. You are dead right about this subject. Good video. Bush was just as bad.

April 22, 2013 at 5:41 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

No, timbo, you don't agree with his politics. I find the author of Mallard Fillmore to be insulting and whiny. To others he is brilliant. That liberal cartoonists win the Pulitzer more often is certainly true-the journalism profession has more liberals than conservatives, so they find liberal cartoonists funny.

April 22, 2013 at 5:44 p.m.
dude_abides said...

timbo said... "First of all, this cartoon is not funny, to anyone."

Wrong again timbo. I find it funny and true. Not quite as funny as your fixation with the rear ends of fellow male posters, but funny nonetheless.

April 22, 2013 at 5:45 p.m.
dude_abides said...

May, do you think blondes are dumb?

April 22, 2013 at 5:53 p.m.
timbo said...

lkeithlu....I am not a Republican. Also, I can't define humor but I knows it whens I's sees it. Bennett ain't it.

I didn't agree with Bill Maher but I found a lot of his stuff about the Republicans really funny and creative. I didn't agree with his politics but it was humerous. Now he is just a shrill partisan and I can't listen anymore. Bennett is also a shrill partisan.

Although you admit that "certainly true-the journalism profession has more liberals than conservatives.." you are really playing it down. Approximately 80% of journalists are liberal. Even though that is true, they should be able to recognize talent. Bennett is only "talented" because they agree with him. This makes them even more dishonest. The Pulitzer is a joke and you know it.

Bennett is accessing the lowest political emotion and it makes liberals feel good about themselves because it makes them think they are better than the mean old right. He is a con man.

April 22, 2013 at 5:54 p.m.
timbo said...

dude_abides....I see you haven't changed much. Your are right, people like you would think that Bennett is funny. He makes you feel good about some of your bizarre opinions.

I think your fixation with my fixation is funny...maybe just sad.

It's good to see that the pseudo-intellectual lives.

April 22, 2013 at 5:57 p.m.
dude_abides said...

timbo said... "lkeithlu....I am not a Republican. Also, I can't define humor but I knows it whens I's sees it."

You're not a racist either, are you timbo? You are certainly a relic...

April 22, 2013 at 5:59 p.m.
May said...

re: dude_abides

Are you asking if all blondes are dumb? No..

..What bearing does that question have?

If you're asking are some blonde people dumb, then saying something is dumb or intelligent is completely subjective.

April 22, 2013 at 6:02 p.m.
dude_abides said...

timbo said... "dude_abides....I see you haven't changed much."

WTF? Have you been gone a long time or something? Didn't notice. LOL Does the old web page seem the same as the bygone days? LMAO

April 22, 2013 at 6:02 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

You're a conservative, timbo, whether you are a republican or not. That is why you don't find Bennett funny. That is why you think the pulitzer is a joke. Of course, you are free to think whatever you like.

April 22, 2013 at 6:05 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Maybutnotblonde... no bearing at all. What is your opinion of Michelle Obama?

April 22, 2013 at 6:06 p.m.
timbo said...

dude_abides.... I guess it wouldn't have been racist if I used a redneck dialect. You would have thought that was great. Black comedians mimic and make fun of white people all the time...I guess that is ok too.

Did you see "Django Unchained?" What was your favorite part..when he killed all the white women and children? With your sense of humor I bet you really laughed it up on that part. That movie was as racist as it gets.

I am just about as racist as the you are...you hypocrite.

If a "relic" is different that a punk like you...I am a relic.

April 22, 2013 at 6:06 p.m.
Easy123 said...

I find it very humorous when someone has the audacity to say "The Pulitzer is a joke and you know it" or "I am not a Republican" and expect people to take them seriously.

The ignorance and deceit displayed by people like timboner is funnier than anything of Clay Bennett draws.

April 22, 2013 at 6:08 p.m.
Easy123 said...

I like how timbo uses a strawman argument (see his last post, specifically his references to black comedians and Django Unchained) to accuse someone else of being a hypocrite and, therefore, a racist.

Without any encouragement or prodding, you have just exposed your own racism AGAIN, timboner.

dude_abides just made you voice your racist opinion by simply using the word "racist".

April 22, 2013 at 6:11 p.m.
nucanuck said...

Max wants to be upper class, but has not learned how the upper class behave. It's not all about money, Max. Every time you talk about your so-called advantaged life, you are screaming "lower class" to those you most wish you could impress. Oh, they will let you pay dues at their clubs, but you will never be the real deal...too much bravado...too little content.

Yell louder, little man. It won't help because you don't have what it takes. Your lack of refinement shows through in every post, and I think that you already know that>

April 22, 2013 at 6:12 p.m.
May said...

re: dude_abides

If it had no bearing, why would you ask?

I don't have much of an opinion of her since I don't know a lot about her.

April 22, 2013 at 6:13 p.m.
timbo said...

lkeithlu.....That is the point...It is a closed club...if your conservative don't apply.... It is the same as this newspaper. The only thing conservative is Drew Johnson. If it was unbiased it would have a conservative cartoon guy on staff. It is just stupid marketing to ignore 60 % of the population that buys your newspaper. This county is majority Republican/conservative. It is dumb not to realize that fact. Why do you think that the TFP readership is going down.

By the way, my cartoon would have been the tent with all the weirdos and fake "diversity" that showed up at the democratic convention. The Democrat flag would be flying and I would have a sign outside that said, "Free Stuff Inside." That would have been hilarious.

April 22, 2013 at 6:13 p.m.
Easy123 said...

timboner,

"It is a closed club...if your conservative don't apply"

That claim is demonstrably false given information that you provided from Wikipedia. Remember that part about 5 Republicans/Conservatives winning?

"If it was unbiased it would have a conservative cartoon guy on staff."

The TFP prints conservative cartoons daily. They just don't post them to their website. Might want to check the facts before you start spewing.

"It is just stupid marketing to ignore 60 % of the population that buys your newspaper."

Refer to the comment above. The TFP makes a point provide equal representation from both sides in the paper. If you would just take time to read the damn thing, you might know that. Can you read?

"Why do you think that the TFP readership is going down."

Because more people get their news online. It has nothing to do with the amount of conservatives perspectives/articles/columns in the paper.

"By the way, my cartoon would have been the tent with all the weirdos and fake "diversity" that showed up at the democratic convention."

Yeah, all that "fake" diversity. All those "fake" African-Americans, Latinos, etc. that showed up to the DNC. It was really a bunch of white guys in Obama masks, right?

"The Democrat flag would be flying and I would have a sign outside that said, "Free Stuff Inside." That would have been hilarious."

You're proving why Conservatives/Republicans don't win the Pulitzer Prize or the African-American/Latino vote.

Try again because everything you just said is utter bullsh!t.

April 22, 2013 at 6:21 p.m.
timbo said...

slEasy321....The intellectual midget..(opps..I mean little person) speaks.

I know that your knowledge is limited but there are people called "libertarians" that dislike the Republicans also. Now, repeat after me...L..I..B..E..R..T..A..R..I..A..N..S..

Now that wasn't too hard was it?

Also, equality it judging everyone by the same rules you imbecile. There is a DOUBLE STANDARD and either you are ignoring it or you are too dumb to fathom it. I think the latter by the way.

Can't black people take a joke? Or is that just for white people.

April 22, 2013 at 6:23 p.m.
dude_abides said...

May... You should discern all the political opinions that have come from inside you... from all the political opinions that have come from your husband, father, etc. I bet you'll find a trend.

April 22, 2013 at 6:25 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Fine-apply to be the conservative cartoonist. You could even donate your cartoons until your readership grew enough to give you a paying position. I can't wait for your first installment.

BTW, journalism and science tend to have a liberal bent. And it is not because they are "brainwashed" in college.

April 22, 2013 at 6:26 p.m.
timbo said...

slEasy321... I at least named a source... you just said, "That claim is demonstrably false given information that you provided from Wikipedia" Duh? Well why don't you give your sources or are we supposed to take it as Moses coming down with the commandments.

You have to be on drugs...

BY THE WAY TFP...HOW DID slEasy321 GET AWAY WITH WRITING THE WORD BULLS*** I THINK WE HAVE A SELECTIVE CENSOR.

April 22, 2013 at 6:30 p.m.
Easy123 said...

timboner,

"The intellectual midget..(opps..I mean little person) speaks."

We know you're "speaking". You don't have to preface your posts like that. So self-deprecating of you.

"I know that your knowledge is limited but there are people called "libertarians" that dislike the Republicans also. Now, repeat after me...L..I..B..E..R..T..A..R..I..A..N..S.."

I know your ignorance is limitless, but you aren't a L I B E R T A R I A N. You're the one here wanting equal representation in the TFP for "conservatives/Republicans". Do you remember that? Or did the mescaline already set it?

"Now that wasn't too hard was it?"

You tell me. You're the one that seems to be struggling.

"Also, equality it judging everyone by the same rules you imbecile."

Everyone is judged by the same standard. Equality doesn't mean everyone gets to win the same amount. There are less conservative writers, etc., therefore, if they won the award the same amount as liberals, that wouldn't be "equal" now, would it, moron?

"There is a DOUBLE STANDARD and either you are ignoring it or you are too dumb to fathom it. I think the latter by the way.

Or maybe it's just truly equal and you just can't stand the fact that the majority of people in this country simply don't find the writing, drawing of conservatives to be funny, interesting, or intelligible.

"I think the latter by the way."

You would though, wouldn't you? LMFAO!

"Can't black people take a joke? Or is that just for white people."

Maybe you should ask an African-American. Oh wait, how does the Klan feel about stuff like that?

April 22, 2013 at 6:34 p.m.
Easy123 said...

timboner,

"I at least named a source... you just said, "That claim is demonstrably false given information that you provided from Wikipedia" Duh? Well why don't you give your sources or are we supposed to take it as Moses coming down with the commandments."

I used your source, moron. You know where it says: "He pointed to a 31-year period in which only five conservatives won prizes for commentary.". Repeat after me: I-D-I-O-T.

According to that information, conservatives can and have won the award. It isn't a "closed club" as you claimed earlier. See how that works? Or do I need to write it in crayon?

"You have to be on drugs..."

You HAVE to be "ignorance" incarnate.

"BY THE WAY TFP...HOW DID slEasy321 GET AWAY WITH WRITING THE WORD BULLS* I THINK WE HAVE A SELECTIVE CENSOR."

I made the "i" an exclamation mark. Might want to put on your bifocals before you start spewing.

There is no way you could make yourself look any more ridiculously stupid than you have just managed to. I can't make this stuff up people!

April 22, 2013 at 6:40 p.m.
May said...

re: dude_abides

Why?

April 22, 2013 at 6:41 p.m.
dude_abides said...

May, just see how many times you disagree with mountainlaurel on this site, and how many times you agree timbo, maximus, jonross, patriot1, conservative...

April 22, 2013 at 6:49 p.m.
May said...

re: dude_abides

I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong I'm trying to be neutral here. All I'm saying is that I don't find the need for someone like Clay Benett or Mallard Filmore to chuck rocks at each other's party in a childish 'your dumb' type of manner. I actually have seen Conservative and Patriot1's posts and I don't agree with most of them. Are you trying to say that I have a wrong view for remaining neutral and not automatically siding with a party?

April 22, 2013 at 6:55 p.m.
timbo said...

lkeithlu... I am a scientist/businessman and a conservative.

Here is how I explain it...I am a pornographic chemist...I just don't want to see molecules have sex like an academic does...I won't them to have sex for money.

That is the difference in people like Thomas Edison, Henry Ford, Bill Gates,....they didn't want to hang around college and go through the bureaucratic process of getting a Phd. In chemistry the patents come from B.S. and M.S. chemists...

They want to get out and make money....

If liberals are "smarter" then why are they "poorer" as a rule. It takes intelligence to make it today. Conservative are doers and liberals are talkers.

I think that there is little difference in intelligence of conservative versus liberals...it is just that the types of intelligence are different.

April 22, 2013 at 6:57 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

alprova - “Anyone caught with a weapon in their possession, capable of firing more than six bullets in a single event, should be put to death.”


Although you may have intended that the person should be given a cursory trial after being caught with the weapon you leave no leeway as to the outcome. You allowed for no extenuating circumstances such as being used in the conduct of a crime as you added later.

Be that as it may it seems to be cruel and unusually harsh punishment for the offence committed. In reviewing that claim do you feel it was just hyperbole and bravado to demonstrate how serious you take the gun control issue. You don’t really believe that the government should take someone’s life for simply having a weapon that contains more bullets than the legal limits.

Do you?

While I was checking that quote I saw this statement you made at about the same time.


“It's gonna happen. You might as well be prepared for it. People, like myself, are totally fed up with mass shootings by clowns eager to bow out of life or who are acting out their favorite video game fantasy with a real-life assault rifle.”

“We ain't giving up this time, and once the bans are in place, there won't be a ten year time limit on them either.”


It hasn’t really worked out so well for you has it? You couldn’t even get a symbolic background check bill passed.

April 22, 2013 at 6:58 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

You may use science timbo, but you are not a scientist.

April 22, 2013 at 7:06 p.m.
Easy123 said...

timboner,

"I am a scientist/businessman and a conservative."

LMFAO!

"Here is how I explain it...I am a pornographic chemist...I just don't want to see molecules have sex like an academic does...I won't them to have sex for money."

I rest my case.

"That is the difference in people like Thomas Edison, Henry Ford, Bill Gates,....they didn't want to hang around college and go through the bureaucratic process of getting a Phd."

Bill Gates dropped out of college. Edison dropped out of school as well. Ford had very little schooling. They didn't hang around college long enough to even get a degree, much less a Ph.D.

"In chemistry the patents come from B.S. and M.S. chemists..."

None of the people you mentioned are chemists or had a B.S./M.S. Want to try again?

"If liberals are "smarter" then why are they "poorer" as a rule. It takes intelligence to make it today. Conservative are doers and liberals are talkers."

"Poorer" is quite a fair word. Less rich would be more applicable to the situation. I'd bet there are more extremely wealthy liberals in America than extremely wealthy conservatives. And it doesn't take much intelligence to make it today. Just look at Kim Kardashian.

Why are the majority of people you originally mentioned (scientists) Liberal? And that's not just in America. That's worldwide.

April 22, 2013 at 7:07 p.m.
dude_abides said...

I'm saying that the brands are burned in. Don't vote republican and expect women's rights to be protected, even if agree with some of their platform. Don't vote democrat if you hate everyone that is different than you, even if you agree with some of their platform.

April 22, 2013 at 7:15 p.m.
fairmon said...

Why do the D.C. clowns think they have the right to determine how much someone should be allowed to save and how much they will need to live on? That is more meddling than should be allowed. The biggest mistake in history was when the states approved the federal governments taxing of income.

April 22, 2013 at 7:16 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JonRoss,

I'm turning you in to the Honor Council for your plagiarism.

http://legalinsurrection.com/

April 22, 2013 at 7:16 p.m.
limric said...

A memorial to a brother that reminds us sometimes we feel like --

a motherless child.

Freedom,freedom Freedom,freedom

Sometimes I feel like I’m almost gone

A long, long, long, way, way from my home.

Goodbye Richie Goodbye Brother…..

April 22, 2013 at 8:58 p.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "Why do the D.C. clowns think they have the right to determine how much someone should be allowed to save and how much they will need to live on?"

You are not limited to how much you are allowed to save. You are limited to how much you are allowed to save and defer income taxes at the same time.

"That is more meddling than should be allowed."

Then do what the rich do when they feel they are being taxed too much. Cheat.

"The biggest mistake in history was when the states approved the federal governments taxing of income."

What really should chap your hiney is that the 16th Amendment allows the Federal Government to collect taxes and do whatever they want with them, as I'm sure you know.

"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."

Why does the Government collect taxes?

Article I, Section 8, Clause 1:

"The Congress shall have Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States."

As is always the case, every time you whine about income taxes, you are free as a bird to collect all your money, renounce your American citizenship, hop a plane to the country of your choice, and see if you have it any better somewhere else.

I'm stayin,and I'm happy to pay my taxes,' 'cause I know I've got it good right here in the good old U.S.A...

April 22, 2013 at 9:22 p.m.
May said...

re: dude_abides

I already said that I don't vote. I don't hate people who are different than me, but obviously you do. I hope you're not trying to represent Democrats by saying that everyone who doesn't agree with you is wrong and should be called out for it then that's a pretty arrogant and selfish view. It reminds me of someone else's view who was particularly active in the 1940's.

April 22, 2013 at 9:43 p.m.
dude_abides said...

May, as I said initially, you're a republican. Hmmm, 1940's... Clark Gable? Cary Grant? Humphrey Bogart? FDR? Churchill? Oh, Ghandi!

This site already has enough posters that claim to be neutral and then espouse conservative viewpoints ad nauseam. Don't think yourself novel.

April 22, 2013 at 10:28 p.m.
GratefulDawg said...

"Goodbye Richie Goodbye Brother.... --limric"

Be it ever so humble, there's no place like home

Home, home on the range

Where the fear and the antidotes play

Where seldom is heard, an encouraging word

And our leaders do nothing all day

Richie Havens--"Nobody Left to Crown"

April 22, 2013 at 10:44 p.m.
May said...

re: dude_abides

Sure I'm Republican. I'm also the fairy queen of Narnia. You must be a desperate troll picking a fight with someone who plainly stated that they're tired of the war between parties. But whatever. Believe whatever helps you sleep at night, hun <3.

April 22, 2013 at 10:48 p.m.
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