published Wednesday, April 24th, 2013

5-at-10: Draft contest, draft questions and college football playoff

It's here and it's all happening.

From the "Talks too much" studios, with the 92nd pick of the 22nd round, we take it on the run baby, if that's the way you want it baby, then we don't want you around.

Happy Draftmas Eve

We're roughly 34 hours and counting from tip time of the NFL draft on Thursday night.

Let's review our Draft To-Do List:

• Refreshments (with plenty of Co-Colas) — Check

• Contest details — Check and double check

• Annual Mock draft — In Thursday's TFP

• Second annual 5-at-10 top 5 draft lists — uh.....

Here's the second annual 5-at-10 top 5 draft lists:

5 safest picks (first-round picks that are as close to sure-thing as possible; this is not the first five off the board per se, just five guys that are going to deliver)

1) Luke Joeckel, tackle — Not a franchise QB or a super sexy pick atop this draft, but still a guy that will be a 12-15-year starter barring injury.

2) Dee Milliner, cornerback — This just in, Nick Saban can get guys ready for the NFL. This just in part II, Nick Saban-coached defensive backs are really ready for the NFL. Milliner is a shutdown corner with the size and speed to be special.

3) Chance Warmack, guard — There will be someone on Friday that say, "Wow, can't believe they took a guard in the top 10." Then in five years when Warmack is among the best guards in football, they will say, "Warmack was a steal."

4) Tyler Eifert, tight end — The perfect blend of potential and production, Eifert is coming into the league at the perfect time for a 6-foot-5, 250-pound tight end/receiver with 4.6 speed in the 40.

5) Kenny Vaccaro, safety — The best safety in the draft and a guy that plays in space very comfortably.

5 picks with the most upside (first-round picks with the most risk and reward)

1) Ezekiel Ansah, defensive end — The freak pass-rusher who came to BYU as a track athlete could be a double-digit sack guy for a decade.

2) Star Lotulelei, defensive tackle — Once was the top-ranked prospect on the board, but a physical at the combine revealed a heart condition that scares some teams. Could be a major steal midway through the first round.

3) Cordarrelle Patterson, wide receiver — Elite athleticism. Could be a stronger Randy Moss in the right situation. Could be the next Kelley Washington in the wrong situation.

4) Alec Ogletree, inside linebacker — The off-the-field stuff is troubling, but he had more than 100 tackles to lead the team despite missing the first four games with a suspension. And, as TFP college football ace David Paschall shared with us in today's sport section, there was a ton of NFL talent on the field when Alabama and Georgia played in the SEC title game. Ogletree was as good that day as any one of them.

5) Manti Te'o, inside linebacker — The kid was a can't miss prospect until it became known that he was very popular with the girls in the Niagara Falls area. (Weird Science is arguably the most underrated 1980s comedy.) Will he be the player that dominated the regular season or the guy that looked slow and out of place against Alabama?

Top 5 quarterbacks (this one is self explanatory, but we don't think any of these cats should be first rounders, but here's saying at least three will be)

1) Ryan Nassib, Syracuse — Dude was awfully impressive in the Gruden sitdown. (Side note: The Gruden sitdown has become so good and so successful and so insightful in the predraft discourse, can we have a Gruden sitdown with presidential candidates? This needs to happen. There's no way we should really know more about Ryan Nassib or Geno Smith — and feel like we know them more, if that makes sense — than we should the men and/or women who are looking to lead the naton.)

2) EJ Manuel, Florida State — Gets a slight nod over Geno Smith because he directed multiple systems at FSU.

3) Geno Smith, West Virginia — Nice skill set, but can he adjust to going under center?

4) Matt Barkley, USC — Wow, kid likely cost himself at least one full round in the draft by coming back for his senior year. He would have been a top-10 pick last year, now he'll likely be there in the early part of round 2.

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    Tennessee quarterback Tyler Bray (8) passes under pressure.
    Photo by Dan Henry /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

5) Tyler Bray, Tennessee — Yep, we've said from the start that ol' Back Tat has an NFL arm. Heck, Geno Smith is likely going top 10 — and that's amazing in and of itself — and we think Bray has a very real chance to be a better pro. Truly.


NFL draft contest

We're sprinting into the third annual the "Feeling the Draft" NFL draft contest.

Winner will get a Masters hat. Send in your entry, don't cost nothing. We are going to continue to reach out to other media-types in town to participate. The first champ of this event was SportTalk's Quake and last year Sir Jeffe won. Well-played indeed gents. And yes, we have won a couple of our own contests, but the fact that we are winless in "Feeling the Draft" leaves an empty place in our soul. We love the draft. You know this. We are expecting to acquire picks from the SportTalk trio Wells and Jim Gumm from ESPN 105.1. A slew of the TFP folks normally play along and TV guys are always welcomed, too.

As always, don't cost nothin' to play.

You're entries will have five parts. If there's a tie after the first round, please check back Friday because we'll have a second-round tie-breaker.

Here are the categories:

First player picked:

Titans' first pick:

Steelers' first pick:

Falcons' first pick:

SEC players drafted in round 1:

Here are the entries we have so far (and they go in order of first pick/Titans pick/Steelers pick/Falcons pick/SEC first rounders):

5-at-10 — Joeckel/Jonathan Cooper/Cordarrelle Patterson/Tank Carradine/12

Mrs. 5-at-10 — Joeckel/Warmack/Jarvis Jones/Eric Reid/ 13

McPell — Fisher/Dee Milliner/Cordarrelle Patterson/Xavier Rhodes/9

WarEagle — Joeckel/Warmack/Eifert/Kyle Long/14

ThatIDoKnow — Ansah/Mingo/Patterson/Jamar Taylor/15

TrueFan — Luke Joeckel/Tavon Austin/Jarvis Jones/Kevin Minter/11

OTWatcher — Joeckel/Warmack/Jones/Manti Te'o/12

Fred — Joeckel/Warmack/Lotulelei/DJ Swearinger/11

Dawg747 — Joeckel/Warmack/J. Jones/Z. Ertz/12

MrSpud — Joeckel/Warmack/Eifert/Hayden/9

RustyVol — Luke Joeckel/Jonathan Cooper/Justin Hunter/Desmond Trufant/12

Titanic — Joeckel/Lotulelei/Justin Hunter/Jamar Taylor/??

GratefulDawg — Joeckel/X. Rhodes/Cordarrelle Patterson/Zach Ertz/14

One Time — Fisher/Warmack/Eddie Lacy/Trufant/13

Jefe — Joeckel/Barkevious Mingo/Jones/Ertz/14

More to come


College football playoff

Yep, the folks who are running the college football playoff met and decided on a name and where and when the games will be.

The title game will be in early January 2015 in Dallas. (Hi, JMC.) The semifinals will be at the Sugar and Rose bowls on New Year's Day. That makes us smile. Good times.

As for the name of the revolutionary prospect of actually deciding a champion on the field, well, let's just say at least it's not "Leaders" and "Legends." And let's be honest, these folks are dealing with a lot of of stuff — "OK, well, uh…candlesticks always make a nice gift, and uh, maybe you could find out where she’s registered and maybe a place-setting or a silverware pattern. OK, let’s get two! Go get ‘em." — so maybe they don't have time to be original.

Ready? They're calling the college football playoff the "College Football Playoff."

Yep, they came up with the upper-case letters and everything.

Hey, it's better than the BCS, which had one letter too many.

Of course this name will be the name forever. Right? There's no way they went super bland with hopes that Home Depot or Tostitos or some other power sponsor will be willing to assume naming rights, is there? And exchange those rights for a small fee, maybe?

Nope. No way college sports would be that money-hungry. Wait....


This and that

— Hey, between your morning Cup o' Joe and reading this, we think Justin Upton just hit another homer. He is on pace for for 88 or so homers. Seriously.

— Also, the Brothers Upton hit back-to-back homers in Game 2 of the Braves' doubleheader sweep of the Rockies on Tuesday. It was the first time since Paul and Lloyd Waner did it for the Pirates in 1938. You were at that Pirates' game weren't you, Spy?

— How good is LeBron James? Well, he played as bad as he has all season and he went 19-8-6 in the Heatles' Game 2 win over the Bucks.


Today's question

Hey gang remember the mailbag on Friday.

We DVR-ed the 30-for-30 "Elway to Marino" last night. We have high hopes.

As friend of the show "sportsfan" posted on Tuesday's 5-at-10 late last night: "Jay - just finished watching 30 for 30. Elway to Marino. Loved it. Tom Selleck was an awesome narrator. Didn't realize the rumors about Marino before the draft. I wonder how serious Elway was about the Yankees and how successful he might have been in baseball if the Colts had not traded him. Marino was statistically a great QB, but as a GA Tech friend of mine used to say about Eric Zeier at UGA, "statistics are for losers."

We're excited on several levels.

Here are your questions from today:

Best 30-for-30 ESPN documentary so far?

Best quarterback in NFL history?

Best passer in NFL history? (And yes, there's a difference as Titans' play-by-play guy Mike Keith noted on an excellent interview with the SportTalk guys on Tuesday.)

Discuss. It's here' it's all happening.

about Jay Greeson...

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chas9 said...

The Kelly Washington mention reminded me of his protege, Da'Rick. Is there any hope for a Da'Rick redemption?

Probably not the best ever QB, but old George Blanda has a special place in my hall of fame. (I'm assuming the lingerie bowl QB's aren't eligible for this list.)

April 24, 2013 at 10:20 a.m.
ordinaryguy said...

Welcome me back from Fort Lauderdale and a primary job national convention, and even made it back in time Saturday for the Blue Gold game and am very excited about the Mocs this year...I should have a lot of fun at the home games...

As for the draft, I do not speculate, I will watch on and off but will reserve my opinions until afterward

Best 30 for 30 is by far and away "Pony Excess" anything else is small taters

Best QB in NFL history...For just being able to play the position Dan Marino...If I were taking one with money on the line another no brainer, Terry Bradshaw (the last Super Bowl QB to call ALL of his own plays)...The best passer another I grew up watching him and you young whipper snappers and your Peyton love can get over it as Joe Namath was by far and away the best passer, all you had to do was watch the documentary and learn how the ball whoosed as it was released...

April 24, 2013 at 10:34 a.m.
JonathanMCook said...


The fact college football's big game is going to be played inside Emperor Jones Death Star is not a "complete" shock. Given how much money was invested (and lost after some clientales defaulted on some Skyboxes and PSLs), Jerry will literally take ANY event that will fill that Death Star in the middle of Arlington's armpit (nice venue, but if you drive around it, it makes "Emma Wheeler Homes" look warm and safe).

I'll take plan B.

Mocs! Bison! To be settled in Frisco!*

*trip package does not include the part where you forefit your Visa so Mrs. 5 at 10 so she can play at the IKEA down the road. :P

Watched the two minute highlight reel of Mr. Blackburn's press conference.(bracing for blowback) Was he addressing Moc fans or a retirement community? O_o

He may also need to include a "Mocs are Cool" campaign for the actual students.

No interest in the draft (sorry

Did you get around to asking some of my inquiries yesterday?

April 24, 2013 at 10:49 a.m.
jomo11 said...

Being a longtime Colts fan, i shudder to think what would have happened if the Colts had drafted Ryan Leaf !!!

April 24, 2013 at 10:52 a.m.
jomo11 said...

Jay- have you noticed at the draft that Roger Goodell hugs the draftees like they just got home from a tour of duty in Iraq ? . . it is almost a little creepy. . .also we should give awards for worst and best suits worn by first rounders

April 24, 2013 at 11:03 a.m.
HardCopy said...

Speaking of the Gruden show, did anybody see Bray sit in his hot seat? He didn't say much, but completely bristled at Chucky's comment that he watch the Bama tape from last year "over and over again." Gave himself a "7 or 8" on game preparation if Brady/Brees are 10s. Came off as completely uncoachable and uninterested in paying attention to the particulars of the game.

Best 30 for 30? Really difficult to choose just one, but I'd say Pony Excess.

April 24, 2013 at 11:04 a.m.
JonathanMCook said...

I like how everyone is choosing Pony Excess for the best 30-30. To me, it was almost like an orientation video if you think about it. ^^()

Speaking of "The campus that Doak built", all of Mockingbird and a bunch of other streets in and around metro Dallas are being placed on lockdown for the opening of "Dubbya's Hall of Shame". ::lights a sparkler:: yay.

April 24, 2013 at 11:21 a.m.
jgreeson said...

From friend of the show StuckinKent

Let me throw my two cents in for the day-

The name College Football Playoff is not the problem. The problem is that they chose to hold a press conference to announce this. If they just had left it alone, it would have been called that on it's own. If they are going to hold a press conference, shouldn't they at least be able to come up with "Bowl Championship Playoff" or the "Football Four" or "January Jazziness"? (Wow- do you believe how terrible January Jazziness would be?)

As for the BCS having one too many letters, I know that it was a somewhat antiquated system, but calling it "BC" just isn't accurate. There was no football back then. Wait? You meant to take off the "C"? OH! Now I get it....

April 24, 2013 at 11:30 a.m.
titanic said...

Notice I forgot SEC first rounders: I'll go with 11.

Best QB-Vince Young, just kidding, Joe Montana Best passer: Marino

April 24, 2013 at 11:41 a.m.
jgreeson said...

9er —

Yes, there is hope for Da'Rick's redemption. He'll likely be a third-round pick and will be either a) a steal or b) a bust. And there is no in between.

And yes, the lingerie QB's are not eligible.

OG —

Welcome back. Hope all went well in the F-L-A.

Yes, we had Coach Russ Huesman on the radio and he was quite up front about how this is the most talented he's had here.

We are leaning toward Danny Marino, although Jeff George had as many physical skills as anyone we can remember.

And Joe Namath is the most overrated NFL player ever.


We did get to some of the questions you asked. Key improvements were offensive and yes he was pleased with Durden's transition. He also was very clear that the summer will be the difference between this team having a great year or a disappointing one.

We know about Emma Wheeler Homes, but what's the view on Emma Watson Homes?

Stuck —

Let's hope no one sees January Jazziness. And fair point about the press conference.

Jomo —

If the Colts had taken Leaf, wonder if Archie would have forced the Chargers to deal Peyton the way he did Eli.

And the hug thing is a two-way street — the players know they are about to get paid, so they are quite eager for that man-hug.

And we're so in for the best and worst suits. In fact, let's have a side contest prediction: We want Cordarrelle Patterson in each category.

HardCopy —

Not only that, when Gruden asked Bray who he had a hard time beating, Bray said, "the whole SEC."

Not good times.

Titanic —

Thanks for the number.

Do you think Vince Young sends JaMarcus Russell a case of Purple Drank this time every year because Russell was a far bigger bust?

April 24, 2013 at 1:02 p.m.
Stewwie said...

[Ready? They're calling the college football playoff the "College Football Playoff."]

Not a fan of this name at all. It's bland and it should have at least specified that this is the FBS playoffs. The FBS was mucho late to the playoffs party and now they want to hog the name recognition. And yes, there will be some naming rights on that puppy between now and when the ball is kicked off at the Emperor Jones Death Star (nice one, JMC).

The first 4 picks in the draft aren't a given by any means, but I think the draft will start to get interesting with the Lions' pick at #5. Then what do the Bills do at #8? Do they reach for the new coach's former QB at Syracuse? Wouldn't surprise me.

April 24, 2013 at 1:25 p.m.
JonathanMCook said...


Thanks for addressing my inquiries with the H-man himself. Based on the feedback I got from other sources (including OG's post), it sounds like this year's team has their heads together.

I don't know anything about Emma Watson homes unless she has one out in Southlake which I doubt it.


Trust me, the way the top half building is designed it is EASY to imagine TIE fighters coming out of the retractable roof.

April 24, 2013 at 2:14 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

Best 30 for 30 ... wow ... I might go the Valvano/NC State one or even the one on the cartels and Colombian soccer. That one was positively riveting.

Best QB? I'd go Montana, with Unitas close behind him. Best passer? I'd pick out of Manning, Brady and Dan Fouts. Yet I give a slight nod to Marino.

And I still don't get the love for Geno. He made mincemeat of bad defenses but struggled against good teams with decent defenses, and especially against good defenses. Plus, his bowl performance this year was horrific. He may have a skill set like a shed full of saws, but if he can't play in big games, how much use will he be in the NFL, where every week is big? Just ask ESPN.

April 24, 2013 at 2:48 p.m.
titanic said...

Hey fiver, I don't think either can afford a case of drank now.

April 24, 2013 at 2:49 p.m.
HardCopy said...

Bispy - I'm not even sure about his skill set, because given the defenses he played against in college we never saw it on complete display. He's very athletic and mobile obviously, but I don't think he really ever had to read a defense in college. He made lots of throws to receivers who were just wide open. It was playground football. Things like audibling and making pre-snap reads might be something he has to learn from scratch.

April 24, 2013 at 3:18 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

5, I stopped by Primati Bros. for a sammich before I saw Big Poison and Little Poison.

I would enter the feeling draft contest. But I couldn't care less about the Steelers. So I'm out.

April 24, 2013 at 3:30 p.m.
Huesmania said...

Draft Contest:

Joeckel/Warmack/Jarvis Jones/Trufant/12

April 24, 2013 at 4:35 p.m.
LaughingBoy said...

First player picked: Joeckel, A&M

Titans' first pick: Warmack, Alabama

Steelers' first pick: Jones, Georgia

Falcons' first pick: Bjoern Werner, Florida State

SEC players drafted in round 1 (not necessarily in order): 13-Joeckel, A&M, Mingo, LSU; Floyd, Florida; Ogletree, Georgia; Warmack, Alabama; Warford, Kentucky; Patterson, Tennessee; Jones, Georgia; Milliner, Alabama; Richardson, Missouri; Reid, LSU; Hunter, Tennessee; Elam, Florida

April 25, 2013 at 10:01 a.m.
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