published Wednesday, April 24th, 2013

The Paradox

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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WHS1970 said...

Ain't it good to be alive and to be in Tennessee?

April 24, 2013 at 12:40 a.m.
nucanuck said...

Clay, you are picking on Republicans AGAIN!

April 24, 2013 at 12:52 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

"A paradox is a charley horse between the ears"--Gordon Clark.

April 24, 2013 at 12:52 a.m.
Maximus said...

Your point? I know, i know, it's coming, how did WE fail the Boston Bombing Islamic Terrorist brothers? It was OUR fault. Clay I can read you like a book. FACT: The Koran has 109 verses that call Muslims to war with non-believers. While most of the Islamic faith do not follow such teachings, some still do. It is what it is.

April 24, 2013 at 12:54 a.m.
Maximus said...

Another side of the story. The so-called GLBT "civil rights movement" in America does not tolerate tolerance. America you must submit.

April 24, 2013 at 1:15 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Maximusty,

You are mentally, intellectually and logically retarded. Truly unbelievable.

April 24, 2013 at 1:33 a.m.
Lr103 said...

RE: " FACT: The Koran has 109 verses that call Muslims to war with non-believers."

The Christian bible isn't any better. Neither are some very well known Christian ministers. Several very well known televangelists have preached hatred, violence and killings using the Christian bible and especially the story of Saul as justification and example the Christian God sanctions such violence .

Remember Pat Robertson calling for the assassination of Hugo Chavez? USAToday carried an article about what he said in its August 2005 issue. He also suggested the Haitian earthquake was a punishment from God against the Haitian people, accusing Haitian during slavery of making a pact with the devil when they rose up against and overthrew brutal slavery under French rule? Who once accused and suggested Africans infected with the HIV/AIDS virus of having sex with green monkeys?

There have been several well known tv evangelists calling for the killing of non-believers of Christianity.

April 24, 2013 at 2:12 a.m.
Cactus said...

“Man created God in his image: intolerant, sexist, homophobic and violent.”

― Marie de France

April 24, 2013 at 5:20 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

America you must submit.

Maxie, exactly what rights are you losing to the GLBT "movement"? Exactly what rights does anyone lose in order to be tolerant of the rest of society, even those they disagree with? Even your first amendment rights are intact. Now, just like always, you are free to say whatever you like. But now, like always, words have consequences. Now, just like always, you need to be prepared to accept those consequences. The only difference now is that those in the majority are finding out that those consequences do exist. However, the consequences do not include a loss of basic rights.

You cannot be imprisoned unless you make a credible threat, your church will not be padlocked, your home will not be taken from you. Could you lose your job? Depends on your employer. I could lose my job for wearing a shirt with profanity on it. It's my right to do so, but keeping my job was not a right.

You can condemn all Muslims for the Boston bombing. That doesn't make you right. Your words might have consequences (or they might not-Glenn Beck continues to make money in spite of the lies and craziness he spews) But take that a step further and demand that all Muslims be punished, and you will be ignored. Make a credible threat to the Muslim community, and you may pay with your freedom.

April 24, 2013 at 8:24 a.m.
magenta said...

Cactus, and don't forget, the Rwanda genocide committed against the Tutsi tribe at the hands of the Hutu people is said to have been inspired by missionaries teaching an extreme version of the Christian bible to the Hutu tribe, with an expressed focus on the story of Saul. Book of Samuel I. Where the God of Saul ordered him to go into the land of the Amalekites. That Saul was to spare no one. Not man, woman, child, babies or oxyen and any livestock. God of Saul wasn't shocked by the violence, slaughter, and blood shed throughout the land. He was royally pissed at Saul because Saul failed to fully carry out his orders. You see, Saul spared the king of Amalekite and kept all the tastier meats for himself.

April 24, 2013 at 8:38 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

It occurs to some that the Boston Bombing was committed by two men who were mentally ill. We were quick to recognize that the various shooters in WVa, AZ, CO and CT were unstable, but it may be harder to recognize this in people who are culturally different than we are. Dis-enfranchized young men will find a reason to be angry and resentful; add mental illness and they will act out. Whether it is "for Allah" or "for Jesus" or "I hate everyone" doesn't really matter; the results are the same.

April 24, 2013 at 8:45 a.m.
patriot1 said...

Hmmmmm....wonder if Timothy McVeigh could have been mentally ill when he bombed the fed building in OKC? Too late I suppose since he is the 'late" Timothy McVeigh.

April 24, 2013 at 9:04 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

"Tamerlan Tsarnaev got Mass. welfare benefits"----of course he did

April 24, 2013 at 9:09 a.m.
degage said...

Wow Ike, So you believe all jihadist are mentally ill? I just can't believe these two were mentally ill any more than I believe any of the other jihadist are. brainwashed ,I can believe.

April 24, 2013 at 9:12 a.m.
jesse said...

It is amazing to me that Clay sets the bar low enough to attract the retarded and not one mentaly compentent person drops in and sees what is goin on and posts on it! He has his fans fig.out and plays to them and gets lots of reactions BUT on a level that ain't ganna garner hisself no more Pulitzers! When you DUMB DOWN to this level you are "PANDERING"periot!

April 24, 2013 at 9:19 a.m.
tifosi said...

Why are young people leaving the church?

April 24, 2013 at 9:24 a.m.
Leaf said...

jesse, so you posted that no mentally competent person posts! Oh, the irony! Just kidding. I think you're mentally competent, even if your avatar is club-headed.

I can't say that for everyone who posts here. . .

tifosi, young people are leaving the church because they don't have enough fear yet. Fear = Religion. Fortunately for the church in Tennessee, however, our conservative elected officials are leading a war against education. That should bode well for future congregation counts, when this uneducated generation gets old and afraid of death.

April 24, 2013 at 9:40 a.m.
conservative said...

EVERYONE is intolerent about something!

Jesus, who was God in the flesh. said this:

Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. John 14:6NAS

There is only one way to God, there is only one way of Salvation.

April 24, 2013 at 9:48 a.m.
tifosi said...

Leaf-

Not according to Christianty Today:

Isolationism. One-fourth of 18- to 29-year-olds say church demonizes everything outside church, including the music, movies, culture, and technology that define their generation.

Shallowness. One-third call church boring, about one-fourth say faith is irrelevant and Bible teaching is unclear. One-fifth say God is absent from their church experience.

Anti-science. Up to one-third say the church is out of step on scientific developments and debate.

Sex. The church is perceived as simplistic and judgmental. For a fifth or more, a "just say no" philosophy is insufficient in a techno-porno world. Young Christian singles are as sexually active as their non-churched friends, and many say they feel judged.

Exclusivity. Three in 10 young people feel the church is too exclusive in this pluralistic and multi-cultural age. And the same number feel forced to choose between their faith and their friends.

Doubters. The church is not a safe place to express doubts say over one-third of young people, and one-fourth have serious doubts they'd like to discuss.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/le/2012/winter/youngleavechurch.html

April 24, 2013 at 9:49 a.m.
tcrashfx said...

It'd be nice if the 'left', and Mr. Bennett, tolerated opposing opinions? It also be nice if the 'right' tolerated the opinions of the 'left.' Until either involve my Constitutional personal space?

Isn't that it how it is supposed to work? Extremists, on either side, like Mr. Bennett and, on the opposite, Alex Jones, are a disservice to the true, realistic goals of the middle.

I challenge the so-called 'left' to tolerate, as they demand of the holders of my liberal Christian world view, which happens to be leaning towards the 'right.'

Tolerance, should be, indeed, a two way street. Isn't that why they wrote, fought for, bled and died for that whole US Constitution thing?

Sadly, that seems not to happening under 'One-Way' President Obama and the likes of 'One-Way' Senator Corker.

Either 'way', circumstances will force the rest of us to meet in the 'middle.'

April 24, 2013 at 9:49 a.m.
tifosi said...

Conservative is one of the cafeteria Christians. Pick and chooses the parts of the Bible that suits them.

April 24, 2013 at 9:53 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Maximus says” “I know, i know, it's coming, how did WE fail the Boston Bombing Islamic Terrorist brothers? It was OUR fault. Clay I can read you like a book.”

Speak for yourself, Maximus. Label aside, these brothers are just two more examples of sick self-absorbed people who are so consumed with their personal hatreds, their anger, and/or their causes they’ve become indifferent to the value of human life.

April 24, 2013 at 10:08 a.m.
jesse said...

LEAF, what i was sayin WAS, Clay plays to his adherents and the folks on here that THINK have not called him on it! Whether you agree w/him or not IF you THINK ya gotta know he is pluckin your strings! Gittin a reaction!He is not provoking thinking or serious thought,he is playing the troops and gitting a reaction and making his payday!

April 24, 2013 at 10:13 a.m.
timbo said...

Bennett...this one is funny. You and the rest of these liberal hounds bark intolerance of conservatives every day. To preach to us about it is absolutely crazy.

Bennett you are the most intolerant person I know. When people like nucanuck, mountainlaurel, librul, etc, etc, are all in the same boat. They practice liberalism like religious fanatics. All the time fooling themselves that they are being "fair."

Finally a funny cartoon.

April 24, 2013 at 10:15 a.m.
Easy123 said...

timboner,

"To preach to us about it is absolutely crazy."

That's probably true. You and your ilk will never get it no matter how much it's thrown in your face. It's a fool's errand to attempt to make people like you understand.

"Bennett you are the most intolerant person I know."

I'd be willing to bet a billion dollars that you have never met Clay Bennett. You do not know the man whatsoever. Your claim of his "intolerance" is based off political cartoons.

"They practice liberalism like religious fanatics."

And your practice ignorance like a religious fanatic. Others like conservative ARE religious fanatics.

"All the time fooling themselves that they are being "fair."

As opposed to you and your ilk fooling yourselves into believing that you're "logical", "tolerant", etc.

"Finally a funny cartoon."

You truly have no idea.

April 24, 2013 at 10:21 a.m.
Maximus said...

Ike and others. You missed my very salient point. To be tolerant is out of vogue. I could care less who or what someone wants to sleep with as long as children are not involved. I am tolerant of gays and really do not feel that they need any special rights not already covered in the Constitution. As for Muslims, I look at Islam just like any other denomination or faith. Peaceful practice of your faith is fine. I have several engineers that practice the Islamic faith that work for my development company and they are excellent employees and strong family men. The radical side of the GLBT and Islam are not tolerant of others, that's my "teachable moment" for the day. Get off your butts, get to work, and be a productive contributor to the Obama welfare state today. BE A MAKER, NOT A TAKER! I know Dude, I am a retard. Really, really boring attempt to intimidate and re-direct my on point messaging. Dude, it is not working. I guess you are not tolerant of truly special people like those with Downs Syndrome. I can see you bullying them on the play ground while others watch. Yes Dude, you are a BIG MAN ON FOOD STAMPS!

April 24, 2013 at 10:22 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Maximusty,

"I am tolerant of gays and really do not feel that they need any special rights not already covered in the Constitution."

Is that why you use "gay" and "queer" as insults?

"I have several engineers that practice the Islamic faith that work for my development company and they are excellent employees and strong family men."

Let me be the first to call bullsh!t on this one.

"The radical side of the GLBT are not tolerant of others"

That is blatantly false.

"I know Dude, I am a retard."

I'm not Dude. And no, you are mentally, intellectually, and logically retarded. There is a difference.

"I guess you are not tolerant of truly special people like those with Downs Syndrome."

Why do you feel the need to incessantly prove my claims about you? I have made no judgement against anyone with Down Syndrome. Being mentally retarded simply means you have an IQ of less than 70 and social, communication or daily living problems. I truly believe you meet that criteria.

"Yes Dude, you are a BIG MAN ON FOOD STAMPS!"

Yes, Maximusty, you are FOOD STAMPS ON A BIG MAN!

April 24, 2013 at 10:28 a.m.
jesse said...

Easy?WHY do you feel the need to incesantly make an ashole out of yourself??

Just because you disagree w/them does not make them a "moron,idiot,retarded orwhatever"!

By calling them that it makes you look like a moron!!( which is prob.a fact!)

April 24, 2013 at 10:37 a.m.
Leaf said...

tifosi, who knew that something called Christianity Today would be so thoughtful? I agree with all those points, but I'd like to add another. - Believability. Most religions are bronze-age constructs, and it's difficult for most modern people to suspend their disbelief.

I have no problem with religion or spirituality. It is a basic need for a lot of people, and I understand how it can enrich your life and comfort your fears. But that's if you can get past the big faith hurdle. What's needed is a new religion for a new age.

I suppose there are some candidates out there for the next big religion but I haven't really looked into it. Maybe Christianity will change radically to be that new religion, the way it did when it became the official religion of the Roman Empire. Or maybe it will slowly dwindle, with periodic flares like a dying candle. Who knows? Not me. We'll see in a couple hundred years.

April 24, 2013 at 10:43 a.m.
Easy123 said...

jesse,

"Easy?WHY do you feel the need to incesantly make an ashole out of yourself??"

I should be asking you that very question.

"Just because you disagree w/them does not make them a "moron,idiot,retarded orwhatever"!"

I have never called anyone anything simply because I disagree with them. Lies, ignorance, bigotry, etc. deserve to be exposed and opposed fiercely. If you meet the definition of those words, I have no problem referring to someone by those words.

"By calling them that it makes you look like a moron!!( which is prob.a fact!)"

Do you remember saying this? "Just because you disagree w/them does not make them a "moron,idiot,retarded orwhatever"!

Do I need to point out the ridiculousness, idiocy, egregiously blatant hypocrisy of that statement given the preceding statement?

April 24, 2013 at 10:45 a.m.
Maximus said...

Easy, which GLBTQ branding label are you? Q is the new addition, Questioning. I am tolerant of the GLBTQ lifestyle, I just don't agree with it. Again, the gays hate that preference, of which, I have every freedom to express. One more point on the Tsarnaev Islamic terrorist murderers of women, children, adults, and GLBTQ's. I told ya'll. The left is going soft on the Boston Bombings and will make the poor "kid" Dzhokhar a romantic, sympathetic symbol of what is wrong with America. Like Obama's minister for 20 years, Rev. Wright said..."America, your Chechens have come home to roost!" Look for a long, expensive, show trial, that trashes, wait for it, we have not heard the name in quite some time....George Bush and the Republican's. After all, there is an election coming up in November and we must not let a crisis go to waste. Dzhokhar will serve 20 years at the most, write a book, hit the talk shows, and then like the unrepentent terrorist, Bill Ayers, become a college professor at Harvard or maybe Columbia. Come on folks, predicting what the left will do is so easy even a Neanderthal like me can do it. Cheers!

April 24, 2013 at 10:52 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Maximus says: “You missed my very salient point. To be tolerant is out of vogue.”

My goodness. . . All things American considered, life must be really tough for you:

“Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal." [Abraham Lincoln]

April 24, 2013 at 10:54 a.m.
jesse said...

Easy ,When you take time to actualy express an opinion i usually agree w/you BUT that is a RARE thing to come down! Mostly what you do is ridicule everybody else on here about THEIR opinions! I don't think your an idjit,i think your an egomaniac that thinks you have ALL the answers when in fact you could not find your arz w/a hunttin dog

Besides it's fun to mess w/your arz since you are a borderline rubber room candidate!!LOL

April 24, 2013 at 10:57 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Maximusty,

"Easy, which GLBTQ branding label are you? Q is the new addition, Questioning."

I'm the Straight one that supports equal rights for all human beings.

"I am tolerant of the GLBTQ lifestyle, I just don't agree with it."

You can't say you are "tolerant" of the "GLBTQ lifestyle" when you use "gay" and "queer", a.k.a. homophobic slurs, as insults.

"Again, the gays hate that preference, of which, I have every freedom to express."

No, they don't. They hate the fact that your preference has been legislated into law. Most people being discriminated against tend to fight against that discrimination. However, I'm sure your views on homosexuality are archaic and based on Biblical teachings. To which I would say, join us in the 21st century. You have the freedom to express your "preference", but I also have the prerogative to call you a bigot or a homophobe.

"The left is going soft on the Boston Bombings and will make the poor "kid" Dzhokhar a romantic, sympathetic symbol of what is wrong with America."

WingNut propaganda.

"Look for a long, expensive, show trial, that trashes, wait for it, we have not heard the name in quite some time....George Bush and the Republican's."

Look for the guy to get the death penalty.

"Dzhokhar will serve 20 years at the most, write a book, hit the talk shows, and then like the unrepentent terrorist, Bill Ayers, become a college professor at Harvard or maybe Columbia."

Why do you feel the need to incessantly prove my claims about you? Just another example of your psychosis.

"Come on folks, predicting what the left will do is so easy even a Neanderthal like me can do it. Cheers!"

Not quite as predictable as the inane bullsh!t that you post on a regular basis. Insanity at its finest.

April 24, 2013 at 11:02 a.m.
timbo said...

Also, to show you how tolerant and honest liberals are, Pam Sohn wrote a front page article lamenting that the Southern Poverty Law Center (A hate group who hates conservatives) says that hate groups in this country are increasing, implying that this was a huge threat to minorities.

Well the problem is that Ms. Sohn didn't do her homework. Although in her mind this is a "threat" to minorities the TRUTH IS THAT ONLY 4 PEOPLE DIED IN HATE CRIMES IN 2011. Not only that, I went to the FBI site on hate crimes and it was damn hard to find any actual statistics. They are hiding the truth like Pam Sohn.

The TRUTH (A foreign concept to liberals) is that the biggest threat to minorities is from being killed by OTHER MINORITIES. The TRUTH is that the Southern Poverty Law Center is a hate group in itself. They are so far out they say that the Tea Party is a hate group lumped in with the KKK. The KKK or the Tea Party didn't kill anyone in 2011 by the way.

Here are the statistics that need to be repeated time after time because it is the key to reducing murder in this country. The FBI says that white people murder at a rate of 2.0 per 100,000. Black murder at a rate 10 TIMES more at 20 per 100,000. Gun ownership by whites is twice the rate of blacks. Whites in this country murder at a rate lower than several countries with draconian gun laws. Whites in the US murder rate is comparable to Japan, and lower than Ireland, Germany and Italy. Look it up.

The murder problem in this country is in the black community. There is a cultural problem that has to be admitted to be addressed. Liberals can't admit the problem because they have a mental block about minorities. This is evidenced by making a big deal about "hate crimes" while ignoring that blacks are responsible for an inordinate amount of crime and murder in this country. Comparing 4 dead in 2011 to the thousands of blacks that are killed by other blacks is like comparing the "danger" of a kitten to a pit bull.

The fact that liberals are ignoring this cultural problem in the black community is undeniably RACIST. Statistics aren't racist and the people who quote them are not racist.

Now the answers to these FACTS I have presented by the liberals on this page will be predictable. They will say that noticing the TRUTH is racist. They will also make excuses for the perpetrators because of a bad childhood, racism, etc.

Say whatever you like but the fact is that liberal racism is costing minority lives because of the inability to admit the problem and put resources where they should be to stop it. You say you love blacks but you are unwilling to tell them the TRUTH.

April 24, 2013 at 11:04 a.m.
Easy123 said...

jesse,

"Mostly what you do is ridicule everybody else on here about THEIR opinions!"

Opinions that are based on lies, deceit, bigotry, etc. Opinions can be wrong.

"i think your an egomaniac that thinks you have ALL the answers when in fact you could not find your arz w/a hunttin dog"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psycholo...

"Besides it's fun to mess w/your arz since you are a borderline rubber room candidate!!LOL"

Refer to response above.

You really just don't get it, do you, jesse? LMFAO!

April 24, 2013 at 11:07 a.m.
Leaf said...

OMG! Just read this article in the TFP "Mormon bishop with Samurai sword runs off attacker"

I think all guns should be banned and it should be mandatory to carry a samurai sword. How fun would that be?

April 24, 2013 at 11:10 a.m.
Maximus said...

Breaking news from the wacko left: The radical Isalamic terrorist Boston Bomber Tsarnaev brothers were mentally ill. Ok.........it was an official ACLU diagnosis. Riiiiiiiiiight.

April 24, 2013 at 11:11 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

Fisker Automotive will go down as the largest venture capital-backed debacle in U.S. history.....your whitehouse at work

April 24, 2013 at 11:17 a.m.
timbo said...

jesse...I think slEasy321 kind of lunacy is kind of cute. We should encourage her to keep up the good work. slEasy is damaging liberalism a lot more that any conservative ever could.

Come on, she is a lot funnier than Bennett.

April 24, 2013 at 11:20 a.m.
Leaf said...

timbo said re: The Southern Poverty Law Center. . . "They are so far out they say that the Tea Party is a hate group lumped in with the KKK. The KKK or the Tea Party didn't kill anyone in 2011 by the way."

So by that logic, since you say the KKK didn't kill anyone in 2011, the KKK is not a hate group? I know that's not what you meant. It just came across funny. But come on now, there is no way you can seriously say that the Southern Poverty Law Center is a hate group. Be reasonable.

I've heard Baptists say they hate the devil. Does that make Baptists a hate group? Of course not.

April 24, 2013 at 11:22 a.m.
Easy123 said...

timboner,

”Well the problem is that Ms. Sohn didn't do her homework. Although in her mind this is a "threat" to minorities the TRUTH IS THAT ONLY 4 PEOPLE DIED IN HATE CRIMES IN 2011.”

She didn’t say hate crimes were increasing. She said hate groups. Discrimination is a problem for minorities. Guess who tends to discriminate against minorities? Hate groups.

”Not only that, I went to the FBI site on hate crimes and it was damn hard to find any actual statistics. They are hiding the truth like Pam Sohn.”

You have no clue what you’re talking about. It’s all conjecture and ignorance.

“The TRUTH is that the Southern Poverty Law Center is a hate group in itself.”

Idiocy!

“They are so far out they say that the Tea Party is a hate group lumped in with the KKK. The KKK or the Tea Party didn't kill anyone in 2011 by the way.”

A group/organization doesn’t have to kill people to be labeled a hate group.

“The FBI says that white people murder at a rate of 2.0 per 100,000. Black murder at a rate 10 TIMES more at 20 per 100,000.”

The “whites only” murder rate is 2.6 per 100,000.

“Black murder at a rate 10 TIMES more at 20 per 100,000.”

More like 7 times.

“Whites in this country murder at a rate lower than several countries with draconian gun laws.”

No, they don't.

“Whites in the US murder rate is comparable to Japan, and lower than Ireland, Germany and Italy. Look it up.”

I did and you’re wrong.

US ‘whites only’ murder rate: 2.6


Denamark 1.0


Ireland 1.2


Norway 0.8


Sweden 0.9


Greece 1.4


Italy 1.4


Spain 1.2


Austria 0.8


France 1.7


Germany 1.2


Switzerland 1.0

Japan 0.4

“The murder problem in this country is in the black community.”

For the thousandth time, that is false. Murder is not exclusive to any race.

“Liberals can't admit the problem because they have a mental block about minorities.”

Gun culture is the problem.

“This is evidenced by making a big deal about "hate crimes" while ignoring that blacks are responsible for an inordinate amount of crime and murder in this country.”

No one has made a big deal about “hate crimes”. You mistaken took Ms. Sohn’s statements about hate groups to mean hate crimes. The mistake is yours.

April 24, 2013 at 11:29 a.m.
Easy123 said...

timboner (continued),

“Comparing 4 dead in 2011 to the thousands of blacks that are killed by other blacks is like comparing the "danger" of a kitten to a pit bull.”

No one made that comparison. Your strawman argument is based on a statement and claims that weren’t made by Ms. Sohn. The statement was made about hate groups, not hate crimes.

”The fact that liberals are ignoring this cultural problem in the black community is undeniably RACIST.”

How so? Liberals address the poverty problem, the after-school/extracurricular activity problem, the education problem and the gun problem. What is it that Conservatives are doing to address the problems? Don’t worry, I’ll wait.

”Statistics aren't racist and the people who quote them are not racist.”

Your interpretation of them along with your deceit and misinformation can be and IS racist.

”Now the answers to these FACTS I have presented by the liberals on this page will be predictable. They will say that noticing the TRUTH is racist.”

The fact that you can’t even begin to “notice” the truth is ignorant.

”They will also make excuses for the perpetrators because of a bad childhood, racism, etc.”

You’ll make excuses for yourself by making statements like “Statistics aren't racist and the people who quote them are not racist.”

”Say whatever you like but the fact is that liberal racism is costing minority lives because of the inability to admit the problem and put resources where they should be to stop it. You say you love blacks but you are unwilling to tell them the TRUTH.”

The problem has been admitted, but it isn’t the problem you are presenting. The resources are put in the right place. Well, that’s only if Republicans don’t vote those “resources” down in the Senate/House. Guns are never the problem, right? Poverty isn’t the problem right?

Why are you unwilling you tell yourself the TRUTH?

April 24, 2013 at 11:39 a.m.
jesse said...

I guess the ONLY opinions on here that are not based on lies,decete,bigotry and first hand bolts of lightning from GOD are the ones held by EASY 123! Life is EASY when you have a direct line to the ALL KNOWING and he gives you a HEADS UP when he sees some shat on the horizon that might bite you on the arz!

April 24, 2013 at 11:40 a.m.
timbo said...

Leaf..Baptists are as big of a hate group as the Tea Party. It is a wonder the SPLC doesn't put THEM on the list.

The problem is that the SPLC only sees "right wing hate groups." To say that the Tea Party is a hate group eliminates any credibility for the SPLC. I looked on the SPLC web site and Tennessee has 33 hate groups. 3 are Black Separatist and the rest are right wing. They don't list ANY Muslim groups that hate Americans. I guess Al Queda isn't a hate group. So they say, none, zero..do you believe that? They are just a right wing hate organization. The numbers don't lie.

My point here is not so much that the SPLC is bad, it is the fact that that Pam Sohn blew the threat completely out of proportion. When black people read this they probably lock their doors and start watching for the "Sheets" to show up. 4 people does not a major threat make.

I am tired of liberals ignoring the truth. They go on about gun control, taking away guns from whites when they are not the problem. If you want strict gun control, do it like the Earps. They had gun control in the city where the problem was, not the county where it was not.

The point was that blacks are threatened more by other blacks. That is the problem. The rest is insignificant.

Are there hate groups and white supremacists? Yes, are they a significant threat to anyone, no. That is blown way out of proportion by liberal like Pam Sohn. It is political correctness run amok and blacks are dying because of it.

April 24, 2013 at 11:42 a.m.
Easy123 said...

jesse,

"I guess the ONLY opinions on here that are not based on lies,decete,bigotry and first hand bolts of lightning from GOD are the ones held by EASY 123!"

Guess again.

"Life is EASY when you have a direct line to the ALL KNOWING and he gives you a HEADS UP when he sees some shat on the horizon that might bite you on the arz!"

If you say so.

April 24, 2013 at 11:43 a.m.
nurseforjustice said...

Jesse, I would say you are right except Easy does not believe in God. So his direct line would just have a fast busy signal. =)

April 24, 2013 at 11:43 a.m.
timbo said...

slEasy321.... blah, blah, blah.,,,why don't you try to make a point for once.

April 24, 2013 at 11:48 a.m.
Easy123 said...

timboner,

"The problem is that the SPLC only sees "right wing hate groups."

False. The SPLC just sees hate groups. There just happens to be a lot of Right-wing hate groups.

”To say that the Tea Party is a hate group eliminates any credibility for the SPLC.”

The Tea Party is intolerant to gays, minorities, and women.

“They don't list ANY Muslim groups that hate Americans. I guess Al Queda isn't a hate group.”

Al-Qaeda isn’t operating in America. You really have no clue what the SPLC does.

“So they say, none, zero..do you believe that? They are just a right wing hate organization. The numbers don't lie.”

What numbers? The lack of non-American Islamic organizations/groups on their hate group list? Again, you have no clue what you’re talking about.

”it is the fact that that Pam Sohn blew the threat completely out of proportion.”

How could you possibly know that? Your strawman argument was based on statements that you made up about hate crimes. I’d say Ms. Sohn knows exponentially more about the situation than timboner.

”When black people read this they probably lock their doors and start watching for the "Sheets" to show up. 4 people does not a major threat make.”

You still don’t get it. Hate groups discriminate, etc. A hate group does not have to murder people to be considered a hate group or discriminate against others.

“I am tired of liberals ignoring the truth.”

Imagine how we feel having to deal with people like you all the time that have no clue what the truth is.

”They go on about gun control, taking away guns from whites when they are not the problem.”

Your true agenda reveals it’s ugly, misguided head.

”They had gun control in the city where the problem was, not the county where it was not.”

So you’re advocating “Black-only” gun control, correct?

“The point was that blacks are threatened more by other blacks. That is the problem. The rest is insignificant.”

The rest is not insignificant no matter how much you cry about it.

”Are there hate groups and white supremacists? Yes, are they a significant threat to anyone, no.”

So white supremacist groups and hate groups aren’t a threat to anyone, but African-Americans are, correct? Do you really expect people to not think you’re a racist?

”That is blown way out of proportion by liberal like Pam Sohn.”

Conjecture. You have no clue what you’re talking about.

*”It is political correctness run amok and blacks are dying because of it.”

BULLSH!T.

April 24, 2013 at 11:57 a.m.
jesse said...

Nurse! Easy has been dealing w/ a fast busy signal all his life!

He just ain't got a GRIP on it yet!!LOL!

WHEN he does he is in for a lesson in what an arshole he was back when he didn't know better!!

April 24, 2013 at 11:58 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Wow Ike, So you believe all jihadist are mentally ill? I just can't believe these two were mentally ill any more than I believe any of the other jihadist are. brainwashed ,I can believe.

Degage, I can believe brainwashing for the younger, but the older was exhibiting various behaviors such as isolation, out of place anger, spousal abuse. But I will say this: There are a lot of people out there who exhibit behaviors that together can be classified as one or another mental disorder. But very few will harm someone else or themselves, and most of the time this cannot be predicted. If you locked up every young man that was angry, disenfranchised and isolated, that would be a lot of people behind bars or in hospitals. Only a tiny percentage of them are capable of violence, and most of those would give no indication in advance.

My point is that with Islamic extremists, no one ever considers that the young men most attracted to that kind of mindset are not healthy, and even then only a few are capable of hurting others in the name of such extremism. This will especially be true in a free country full of opportunity as ours; in a country torn by war and oppression, there could be more. But the desire to hurt others, especially randomly, is not normal, and indicates a real lack of empathy. Even soldiers trained for battle are uncomfortable about killing anyone not a combatant (and some of them even struggle with killing enemy soldiers, especially up close).

I do not excuse the actions of these two, nor do I excuse any group that may have inspired them or gave them the instructions on how to carry it out. But I do have a problem with folks assuming that being Muslim is a primary cause. Angry young men have killed for lots of reasons, some of them totally part of their fantasies and not connected to reality at all.

April 24, 2013 at 12:15 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Maximus says: “The left is going soft on the Boston Bombings and will make the poor "kid" Dzhokhar a romantic, sympathetic symbol of what is wrong with America.”

I think this is just wishful political thinking on your part, Maximus. You’re forgetting we are living in the kind world today where even juveniles under the age of 18 are being tried as adults in our courts. And like Timothy McVeigh who detonated that truck bomb in Oklahoma City, which killed 168 and injured over 800 people, this individual is over the age of 18.

I suppose there might be some of what our fellow TFP poster Limric calls political “blowback.” It’s not like young males in the U.S. have sensible male role models when it comes to resolving problems. Guns, bombs, and violence appear to have become the standard way to resolve life’s problems and challenges. The lives of innocent people are simply viewed as collateral damage.

April 24, 2013 at 12:15 p.m.
jesse said...

Easy, tell me WHY that was just about what i was expectin??

When you are at a loss for a come back you go to "google"!

Ain't gonna work no mo dude! everybody startin to get a handle on your arz!!LOL!

April 24, 2013 at 12:18 p.m.
Easy123 said...

jesse,

"Easy, tell me WHY that was just about what i was expectin??"

Tel me WHY ur so fula sh!t?

April 24, 2013 at 12:24 p.m.
jesse said...

See there Easy,THATS your problem! You think EVERYBODY BUT you is full of it BUT they aren't they just have a diff. view than you do and in your mind that makes them morons!

April 24, 2013 at 12:50 p.m.
Easy123 said...

jesse,

"When you are at a loss for a come back you go to "google"!"

I guess I could have typed that out. But who doesn't like a movie clip? How many times do you think you've typed the word "arshole" or some variation? "idgit"? You're constantly at a loss.

"Ain't gonna work no mo dude! everybody startin to get a handle on your arz!!LOL!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psycholo...

Ye just aint getin it, jesse.

April 24, 2013 at 12:55 p.m.
Easy123 said...

jesse,

"See there Easy,THATS your problem! You think EVERYBODY BUT you is full of it"

No, I don't. That's YOUR problem, jesse. See: "It is amazing to me that Clay sets the bar low enough to attract the retarded and not one mentaly compentent person drops in and sees what is goin on and posts on it!"

That's you insulting everyone that posts here for the thousandth time. You do that daily. YOU think everybody BUT you is full of it. In turn, you project your own faults and feelings on to me. Then I have to come along and explain the error of your ways.

"they aren't they just have a diff. view than you do and in your mind that makes them morons!"

You're describing yourself. I have no problem with differing opinions. I have a problem with lies, bigotry, misinformation, homophobia, racism, etc. I only refer to certain people as morons that meet the definition of the word "moron" and I rarely do that unless it is blatantly warranted. However, you seem to feel the need to insult EVERYONE here no matter what their viewpoint. Refer to your quote that I provided.

Psychoanalyze yourself:

April 24, 2013 at 1 p.m.
tifosi said...

A GOP blast from the past.

“I want a kinder, gentler nation.”

President G.W. Bush

April 24, 2013 at 1:13 p.m.
Leaf said...

timbo, with respect the argument you're making about the Southern Poverty Law Center is that "Since they don't focus on every hate group, they shouldn't focus on any hate group." Yes, they specialize in one particular type of group, but that doesn't make it any less real.

That would be like saying, the biggest killer of people is heart disease. Therefore we should only research heart disease and ignore cancer.

April 24, 2013 at 1:14 p.m.
Leaf said...

I thought "kinder and gentler" was Bush the Elder.

April 24, 2013 at 1:19 p.m.
tifosi said...

Yep. You know how it is. You seen one Bush, you seen 'em all.

April 24, 2013 at 1:22 p.m.
Leaf said...

Ike re: your 12:15 post. Well written and thoughtful. You have a mind of your own. Where could I buy one of those? Is there an app for that?

April 24, 2013 at 1:27 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Tamerlan Tsarnaev took advantage of America's lavish welfare system. ACORN founder Wade Rathke would no doubt praise him.

April 24, 2013 at 1:34 p.m.
lightkeeper said...

All you right wing nuts are just a half a french fry short of being whats considered a hate group, and you have the gall to call President Obama and Democrats communist, you got to be kidding. Some of you republiecons are some of the most racist gun slinging anti American Neo Nazi group of people on the face of the earth. Thats why the tea baggers are always blaming democrats for everything so they can take the blame of themselves, homemade tea bagger psychology 101.

April 24, 2013 at 1:45 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Is Bennett finally doing a little self examination and acknowledging that the paradox exists within himself?

After all, it is the progressives that preach that intolerance is intolerable and then attack every living soul that does not submit lock-step to their dogma.

April 24, 2013 at 1:52 p.m.
degage said...

PlainTruth, I was just reading about that. Seems the parents took advantage of welfare when they came here and the oldest boy until last year. What is hard to understand is they except our welfare then turn on us. If they hate us so much they need to return to their country of origin.

I also heard their mother say " they killed my older son, if they kill my younger son I don't care. If they kill me I don't care, I say Allah Akbar." Seems she was radicalized along with her son. The father didn't seem to like it.

April 24, 2013 at 1:53 p.m.
degage said...

Lightkepper, that was some hate filled rant you just had. Just remember ,if you can't think of anything else to say you can do what you just did, Rant and play the race card.

April 24, 2013 at 2:02 p.m.
ibshame said...

Easy, I so enjoy your responses. Jesse(who thinks because he says both parties are flawed,BUT CONSTANTLY SEEMS TO FIND MORE FLAWS WITH SO-CALLED LIBERALS)has such a high opinion of his own objectivity. LOL Too bad it's more psuedo objectivity than real objectivity

April 24, 2013 at 2:22 p.m.
lightkeeper said...
<p>@degruge..Anything with a hint of truth you republiecons call it ranting. I don't play the card you conservatives and tea baggers do excuse you. Have you heard the things the right wing nuts slip up and say against women, blacks, gays and everybody else. You really need a pair of glasses and a set of hearing aids.

April 24, 2013 at 2:25 p.m.
degage said...

Lightkeeper, I stand by my statement that your post was a hate filled rant and playing of the race card. At least I am considerate enough to spell lightkeeper the proper way unlike your spelling of degage.

April 24, 2013 at 2:33 p.m.
lightkeeper said...

@ degruge I stand by my statement thats the way I meant to spell it and like I said, I don't play the race card you tea baggers do and hide your hand. But reality and the truth is something conservatives seem to not be able to deal with. All the hate groups that have sprang up just because the President is a black man and deliberate nit picking in Wahington from republiecons because the President is a black man and you say I'am playing the race card, typical.

April 24, 2013 at 2:42 p.m.
Leaf said...

I find it annoying that so many people subscribe to the logical fallacy of false equivalency. That's what I call it. I don't know if it has a better name.

Anyway, people have a natural tendency to think that good and evil must always balance, or right and wrong, or left and right or whatever. But that's just not true. Sometimes one side IS more intolerant, or the other side IS more better grammaticalers, or educated, or good or bad or rich or poor.

I think we all know, even if some of them won't admit it in writing, that conservatives in general are less tolerant than liberals. After all, the definition of the word 'liberal' is generous and open. The definition of the word 'conservative' is to resist change.

So I categorically reject the assertion that liberals are just as intolerant as conservatives, but just about different things. That is false. Social Conservatives by and large are more intolerant than Social Liberals. And there are more racists in the TEA party than the Democratic party. So there.

April 24, 2013 at 2:46 p.m.
Maximus said...

Mtnlaurel....I thought Obama was a "sensible" role model for young men.

Boston Harald Reports:

Entire Tsarnaev family was on welfare, state of Mass. confirms.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev's neighbors report he routinely beat his wife calling her a slut and prostitute.

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev celebrated Obama's election on Twitter saying that Obama was his dog.

Tamerlan drove a late model Mercedes. A big shot wanna be!

Government Report Card - The Boston Bombings

  1. The strict gun laws of Boston and the state of Mass. worked really well. Grade F

  2. Federal Immigration laws worked really well. Grade F

  3. Mass. state welfare laws/regulations worked really well. Grade F.

  4. Federal Department Of Homeland Security and the FBI worked really well with their investigation and tracking of Tamerlan in 2010. Grade F

YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK. A GUY SMOKING IN HIS BACKYARD ACTUALLY CAUGHT DZHOKHAR HIDING IN HIS BOAT. NICE WORK!

April 24, 2013 at 2:58 p.m.
Leaf said...

Do you have a point Maximus? Because you seem to be calling for a police state. Do you have a toothbrush mustache by any chance?

April 24, 2013 at 3:04 p.m.
medrep63 said...

I love love love you Clay Bennett!! You better bring that Pulitzer back to Chattanooga. I loved the cartoon last week with the rainbow pencil on the tax form...brilliant!! Keep it up, only the idiots/bigots in Chattanooga get mad....love love love you again..

April 24, 2013 at 3:28 p.m.
alprova said...

I'm betting that Maximus doesn't even own a toothbrush.

April 24, 2013 at 3:35 p.m.
alprova said...

Tamerlan Tsarnaev apparently plotted and carried out an evil act of terrorism. He garnered the attention of the FBI a couple of years ago and was questioned, researched, and was not found to be a threat.

Did the FBI "drop the ball" as some people are so quick to rush to judgment, or was a 24 year old college student able to convince the FBI that he was no threat to anyone? Clearly, that is what happened.

It does not appear that he had any contact whatsoever with any group that has known ties to terrorism, despite the FBI's best efforts to determine otherwise.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev's own wife was not remotely aware that her husband held radical religious views. He apparently was a man who existed on his own island, so to speak.

Investigation since last Friday has not turned up one single piece of evidence to suggest that either one of these two brothers are members of any radical group associated with Islam.

His reasons for doing what he did, died when he did. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev may be able to provide some of the missing details of what his brother had on his mind, but not all.

Maximus, you and all the other folks so eager to blame every Democrat all the way to the President for either one of the Tsarnaev brothers not being labeled terrorists until they set those bombs, are doing nothing but making yourselves look like idiots.

In the United States of America, it is not our custom or practice to arrest someone who has committed no crime, nor even suspected of planning one. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was never even suspected by a soul to have been capable or willing to carry out the evil act he did.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev did receive the perusal that he apparently was able to deflect effectively, because he had no ties to radical Islam.

Chances are, there are many people in this nation, just as legally as these two brothers were, or even home grown citizens, who may be harboring some of the same hatred for America as apparently Tamerlan Tsarnaev did, and they too are not on Homeland Security's radar.

If they are careful not to cross certain lines that will expose them, and since nobody I am aware of can read people's minds by simply looking at them, they too may one day carry out planned acts of evil without being detected beforehand.

Are we to deport anyone and everyone who was not born in this country? I'm sure that some of you think so.

Keep twirling like a top, if you must. Keep bashing the President, like you always have. You're hurting no one but yourself, when all is said and done.

These next three and three-quarter years are going to be very stressful for some of you, for not one of you is going to change a doggone thing done by our leaders, and that's the bottom line.

April 24, 2013 at 3:39 p.m.
alprova said...

Maxipad wrote in yesterday's thread: "Obama is a coward."

No Sir. That is what you are. You sit behind your computer monitor, day in and day out, spinning your little tales of fantasy, that no one but yourself would ever believe for a minute.

The closest you have probably ever come to taking up arms against any enemy, probably starts and ends with something you can hold in your hands...a game control.

It takes a very small mind to post the things you do and to lie to the degree that you have been proven to have done.

If you were a pimple on Barack Obama's ass, he would pop you and wipe you away with an alcohol pad. Excuse me everyone, for my crudeness, but it is necessary to explain to the man, what his true place in life is, and how utterly insignificant he truly is.

The kind of cyber-bravado that you express on a daily basis will never convince a soul that you resemble a man.

You're simply a chicken who hides behind a computer monitor, who may one day himself, garner the attention of Homeland Security for your anti-Governmental views, if your posts are not already being monitored as we speak.

April 24, 2013 at 3:40 p.m.
Maximus said...

alprova...Tamerlan's own mosque had given him several warnings regarding his anti-American outbursts. Like I have been reporting today, leftist's like you will come running to paint little Dzhokhar a folk hero. As for DHS monitoring me I doubt it since I write large contribution checks each year to both sides of the aisle. Again, government is just another account to a free market capitalist. Just ask all the executives at Fiskar Automative as they laugh all the way to the bank while laying off 70 employees and filing for bankruptcy on our dime. Alprova, you are on a sinking Obama ship. Time for all the rats to leave. I am not anti-government, just anti-Obama. He will go down in history as one of our most ineffective presidents ever. He has scammed a LOT of people including you.

April 24, 2013 at 4:12 p.m.
Leaf said...

Maximus owns three gold BMW toothbrushes. His Muslim employees use them to clean the strip club VIP room juice off the bottom of his baby-spotted-owl-skin elevator boots while he earns big $$$$$$ selling something vague.

April 24, 2013 at 4:19 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

Lr103:

I heard that Pat Robertson had several death squads in Venezuela consisting of young white crusader Christian types. That they tricked Hugo Chavez into consuming large quantities of over cooked bacon on his BLT’s. The carcinogens in the bacon gave him colon cancer and task accomplished. It’s a less flashy and more time consuming form of terrorist activity than bombs but just as effective and harder to gather any evidence as to responsibility.

However that is nothing compared to the sniper squads sent to Haiti and you thought all of those bodies littering the streets were from the earthquake. In fact the the earthquake was just a cover for the snipers and was caused by Koch funded fracking performed by Christian youth dressed in green monkey costumes.

April 24, 2013 at 4:32 p.m.
alprova said...

Maximus wrote: "alprova...Tamerlan's own mosque had given him several warnings regarding his anti-American outbursts."

Tamerlan's own mosque had given WHO several warnings? That is something only the media has been able to dig up. It may or may not be accurate. Every news reporter right now is trying to scoop each other. Do you trust each and every word that you read in the press? You shouldn't.

"Like I have been reporting today, leftist's like you will come running to paint little Dzhokhar a folk hero."

I see. You're a reporter now.

When are you ever going to learn that most of what you lay claim to know, is nothing more than water off a duck's back. You know squat.

"As for DHS monitoring me I doubt it since I write large contribution checks each year to both sides of the aisle."

Sure you do. You might have had half a chance to make that one believable had you claimed to write checks to Republicans, but no one on God's green Earth would ever believe that you monetarily support one Democrat.

"Alprova, you are on a sinking Obama ship. Time for all the rats to leave."

When Obama leaves office in 2017, the torch will be passed to Hillary Clinton. Look for more "rats" to dominate Washington politics. And you know who is going to assist that transformation?

People like yourself. Every word you post turns people against Republicans. Keep up the good work!!

"I am not anti-government, just anti-Obama. He will go down in history as one of our most ineffective presidents ever. He has scammed a LOT of people including you."

The next claim you will make is that you own a text book firm and will be writing all the history books for school children of the future.

April 24, 2013 at 4:35 p.m.
alprova said...

Leaf wrote: "Maximus owns three gold BMW toothbrushes. His Muslim employees use them to clean the strip club VIP room juice off the bottom of his baby-spotted-owl-skin elevator boots while he earns big $$$$$$ selling something vague."

I wonder how it is that he has so much time, while claiming to be making all those $$$$$$ to post so often during the day. Not many people who have mucho businesses to run, find time at all hours of the day to spend posting rants about the President in an online forum.

April 24, 2013 at 4:42 p.m.
Leaf said...

Oh I don't know alprova, I don't think it takes that much time. I, for one, don't do a lot of research to back up my claims or anything. I just check in, do a little speed-reading of non-conservative non-JohnRoss posts and then maybe post something shallow and off the cuff.

I only read maximus for the lols. I doubt he spends much time on his posts either since he doesn't even check for spelling, grammar, or sanity.

April 24, 2013 at 4:53 p.m.
Maximus said...

Hello. I work with a lap top and ipad. I know Alprova, Leaf, the Dude have to wait until the public library opens to use a guvment computer. That is how you have to roll on the Obama welfare train. Sad. I will have to take some time away from my dead solid perfect comments due to a business trip. I know, it's going to be boring with a bunch of loser liberals sucking up to Barry but I gotta go get paid. At least one person is a maker and not a taker on this thread. Later losers.

April 24, 2013 at 5:15 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Maximusty,

So you work with a "lap top" and ipad and you've posted while you were on vacation at your beach house in Florida, but you can't post while on your "business trip". You also seem to have time to post within hours of your, seemingly, short golf outings as well.

I bet your neighbors realized you were stealing their cable and Internet, so they turned you in. I'm sure you'll be posting from Best Buy within a few days.

April 24, 2013 at 5:30 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Maximus says: “Tamerlan Tsarnaev's neighbors report he routinely beat his wife calling her a slut and prostitute.”

Attitudinally, this reminds of that New Hampshire Republican Representative who referred to women as “vaginas” in his email to his colleagues. . .

http://www.salon.com/2013/04/17/new_hampshire_republican_refers_to_women_as_vaginas_in_email_to_lawmakers/

. . . Along with those 160 U.S. House Republicans like Tennessee's Representative Chuck Fleischmann and Scott DesJarlais who recently voted against the reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act.”

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/03/violence-against-women-act-reauthorization-house-senate-votes

April 24, 2013 at 5:30 p.m.
magenta said...

RE: "PlainTruth said... "Tamerlan Tsarnaev got Mass. welfare benefits"----of course he did"

It's not unusual for refugees fleeing war torn nations to be given public assistance in their host nations. How else would powerful nations convince them they're the good guys on the front end, all the while taking control of their country's abundance of natural resources on the back end?

Dontcha' knows___It's not the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world, but the nation that gains control of the worlds natural resources.

April 24, 2013 at 5:41 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JonRoss,

"if women are fine to go into combat now, compliments of Barry Soetero, why should there be a "Violence Against Womens Act" in the first place ? That makes no sense whatsoever except he has it both ways politically."

I don't think it's possible to be as dumb as you. I'm not even going to take the time explain your idiocy. That quote alone should discredit anything you ever say.

"Obama refuses to condemn Islam for it institutionalized hate for gays and the routine killing of them in Islamic countries."

He refuses to condemn Christianity for the same things.

"That makes Obama a participant in the culture of hate and blood in the Islamic world."

No, it doesn't. It makes you highly illogical and psychotic.

April 24, 2013 at 5:44 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JonRoss,

"Muslims are the most bigoted group of people on the planet."

It's a three way tie for first. The big three religions contain the most bigotry.

"And it is the only religious group that was founded by a pedophile, the prophet Mohammed."

God had "ghost" sex with Mary when she was only about 12 or 13. I guess it depends on your point of view.

"Que the Christian haters...."

I think all religions are antiquated relics of early human beings trying to explain the world around them. Religion poisons everything.

April 24, 2013 at 5:49 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JonRoss,

"EASY is an idiot as usual."

If I'm an idiot, what are you?

"None of cartoons he linked to above are critical of Islam in the least."

You do realize other people can see those cartoons and know you're lying, right?

"And they could easily be interpreted as anti-Christian."

Another lie.

Would you like to try again? I bet it's hard to type with your head up your ass, so I'll give you another try.

April 24, 2013 at 5:51 p.m.
magenta said...

RE: "JonRoss said... Muslims are the most bigoted group of people on the planet. And it is the only religious group that was founded by a pedophile, the prophet Mohammed. Que the Christian haters....

Jumping of little johnEEE rosteiere post: "Christians are the most bigoted group of people on the planet. And it is the only religious group that was founded by a pedophile, Jeebusu Khristy.

If you're going to insult another religion, didn't you can't take offense when the spit comes flying back in your face, johnEEE.

Did you know at many points during the Iraq/Afghani conflicts American soldiers were being told these were religious conflicts, sanctioned by the Christian God. And that Christian God would forgive them no matter what atrocities they committed. Hence: Abu Ghraib.

April 24, 2013 at 5:51 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JonRoss,

"I just chuckle when I read you responses....well actually they are not responses, just "uh uh uh uh you are crazy uh uh uh""

Are you mentally retarded? Maybe just illiterate? Who do you think you're fooling?

"So what is it about mass murder carried out by Muzzies that arouses you lefties ?"

You're the only one that seems to be aroused by it. Well, you and Maximus. That's all you've talked about. I bet you get all moist when you type the word "Muzzies".

April 24, 2013 at 5:53 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JonRoss,

"So easy you agree that Mohammed was a pedophile for humping 12 year old girls ?"

Basically. That's been a part of every religion since they began. Families would have arranged marriages for the pubescent daughters. They would typically be forced to marry much older, wealthier men. It's been a part of Judaism, Islam and Christianity for hundreds of years.

"Or do you have some Progressive explanation for it so no problem"

Are you illiterate?

April 24, 2013 at 5:57 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JonRoss,

"magenta must be muslim because he/she/it has it panties in a wad."

Your panties are incessantly in a wad.

"Everytime muzzies kill people people like magenta, easy, rickaroo, bennett, go on the attack against non-muzzies. So reflexive and really disturbing."

More lies.

"Unlike magenta and easy and bennett I dismiss the concept that the people of Boston deserved the attack."

Even more lies!

"easy do you start shopping for pressure cookers when someone dares to use the word "muzzie" ?"

Do you prematurely ejaculate when you type the word "Muzzies"?

"Obamist moral equivalence."

The horny bigot moral equivalence.

Try again, you lying bastard.

April 24, 2013 at 5:58 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JonRoss,

"Hide the pressure cookers folks, magenta and easy are channeling Mohdamed."

"Not prematurely, no."

That's what I thought. I'm sure typing "Obamist" is your big finisher.

April 24, 2013 at 6:04 p.m.
magenta said...

RE: JonRoss said... Hide the pressure cookers folks, magenta and easy are channeling Mohdamed.

Now, that's funny, johnEEe. Really funny. Who'd have guessed, bigoted Christians like yourself could possibly have a sense of humor? Still laughing!!

April 24, 2013 at 6:04 p.m.
alprova said...

JonRoss wrote: "Obama refuses to condemn Islam for it institutionalized hate for gays and the routine killing of them in Islamic countries. That makes Obama a participant in the culture of hate and blood in the Islamic world."

Oh My Goodness...I never knew that if the President would come out against anything done in another country, that this is all it would take for it to magically make people wake up and say...WoW!! Obama has spoken. I must comply!! I will condemn and kill no more!!!

April 24, 2013 at 6:08 p.m.
Easy123 said...

alprova,

Did you notice how quickly JonRoss appeared after Maximus left?

April 24, 2013 at 6:15 p.m.
conservative said...

True Christians and true Christian churches are suppose to be intolerant of sin and sinful behavior and that is a good and pleasing thing to God. Christians are to love what God loves and hate what God hates.

Many churches today are tolerant of sin, allowing obvious and willfully sinning people such as adulterers and fornicators, whether heterosexual or homosexual to become members and even members who fall into those sins and various others are seldom confronted or disciplined for there sinful behavior.

Therefore, those outside Christianity then rightly see no difference between themselves and those who claim to have a relationship with Jesus Christ.

Those churches which do preach against sin and confront members who fall into sin and even disallow fellowship with those who will not repent when confronted, are then unjustly seen as intolerant by the same bunch. However, this is the proper role of the true church.

Sin is mankind's problem and the role of the true church is to proclaim this problem and the cure for the problem which is faith in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. A true Christian is a disciple and follower of Jesus Christ, evidenced by a change in behavior.

The Liberal/Atheist/unbeliever is always going to charge God and Christians with intolerance even as they themselves practice it. It has always been this way and will always be this way.

But again, intolerance over sin is a good thing and pleasing to God.

April 24, 2013 at 6:20 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Ah, conservative and his "no true scotsman" fallacy.

April 24, 2013 at 6:33 p.m.
Easy123 said...

conservative,

"True Christians and true Christian churches are suppose to be intolerant of sin and sinful behavior and that is a good and pleasing thing to God."

Therein lies your problem. You believe your holy book to be the truth on "sin and sinful behavior". Have you read the Bible? How many people did your god kill? Why is "sin" excused when your god does it? If those "sins" only apply to humans then the aren't moral/universal truths.

"Christians are to love what God loves and hate what God hates."

Christians are also told to turn the other cheek, not get divorced, give to anyone that asks, and numerous other things you don't adhere to.

"Many churches today are tolerant of sin, allowing obvious and willfully sinning people such as adulterers and fornicators, whether heterosexual or homosexual to become members and even members who fall into those sins and various others are seldom confronted or disciplined for there sinful behavior"

Matthew 7:1-3. Hell, it's no use. You only cherry-pick the Bible anyway. You're a heretic.

"Therefore, those outside Christianity then rightly see no difference between themselves and those who claim to have a relationship with Jesus Christ."

The only difference is the delusion of those with the "relationship with Jesus Christ".

"However, this is the proper role of the true church."

As if Christianity wasn't losing enough members because of its doctrine!

"Sin is mankind's problem and the role of the true church is to proclaim this problem and the cure for the problem which is faith in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ."

This is an inherently wicked teaching. You have been brainwashed into believing that you were born sick and you MUST accept gentle Jesus, meek and mild, or spend eternity burning alive. What a deal! Christianity teaches self-hate. You must view yourself as inept, incomplete, dirty, deserving of death to accept the Christian doctrine. It's an utterly abhorrent teaching. Humans are inherently good. The only "cure" humans need is from the bigotry and delusion of religion.

"The Liberal/Atheist/unbeliever is always going to charge God and Christians with intolerance even as they themselves practice it. It has always been this way and will always be this way."

You and your religion are intolerant and immoral. I only practice intolerance of intolerance, bigotry, racism, homophobia, Christian dominionism, lies, deceit, etc. You get the point. It doesn't matter how you rationalize it, you'll always be wrong.

"But again, intolerance over sin is a good thing and pleasing to God."

Proof that religion will make you rationalize the most egregious evils and accept those evils as "good".

April 24, 2013 at 6:41 p.m.
alprova said...

Easy123 wrote: "Did you notice how quickly JonRoss appeared after Maximus left?"

I've noticed a pattern of that happening here lately.

People with no life love to play games.

April 24, 2013 at 6:44 p.m.
conservative said...

Many false teachers and Christian in name only churches teach false doctrine and tolerate much sin allowing membership to just about anyone. Do not be deceived, make no mistake about it, Jesus contradicts such:

“Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are MANY who enter through it. For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are FEW who find it. Mathew 7:13-14

April 24, 2013 at 6:53 p.m.
Easy123 said...

conservative,

"But make no mistake about it Jesus contradicts such:"

Jesus also hung out with prostitutes, liars, thieves, the poor, and criminals. But, by all means, continue to turn people away from your religion. The prospect of fewer people like you is encouraging.

You are no Christian. You aren't a piece of fecal matter. You are every piece of fecal matter from the beginning of time until the end. You are the sum total of all excrement personified. You are a loathsome, hollow- hearted mound of bile and puss masquerading as a human being. You are an emotionally tone-deaf, abominable travesty whose every post is as rotten as it is disingenuous. If there is one molecule of human decency in your entire body, I feel extreme pity for it.

April 24, 2013 at 6:58 p.m.
alprova said...

It's very hard not to feel like we are all pieces on a chess board, the way some people describe Christianity.

Most Christians believe that every event throughout all our lives is pre-determined, and that God knows all that we will do our entire lives. It's all part of this mysterious plan that God has.

Then...every so often, there comes along someone like conservative, who types as if he were God himself, who claims to have it all figured out, repeatedly ladling oodles of servings of steaming condemnations of others, never once admitting that he too, is an imperfect soul.

He justified it all today with his latest claim that God commands his churches and troo Christians (TM) -- credit to Ikeithlu) to be "intolerant of sin and sinful behavior and that is a good and pleasing thing to God."

I wonder...

What sins is God tolerating that you, conservative, are guilty of on a daily basis?

What mandates that can be found in the Bible you surely cling to, containing each and every word that surely came directly from or that was authored by those inspired by God, are you personally not honoring?

Is God truly going to tolerate your sins when the time comes to answer for them?

April 24, 2013 at 7:06 p.m.

"These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own." - G.K. Chesterton

April 24, 2013 at 7:11 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Which days are those? Chesterton died 80+ years ago.

April 24, 2013 at 7:23 p.m.
conservative said...

God will not tolerate false prophets and will judge those who are and who lead others into hell fire. Again the words of Jesus:

“Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they? So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. So then, you will know them by their fruits. Mathew 7:15-20.

April 24, 2013 at 7:23 p.m.
Easy123 said...

conservative,

"But make no mistake about it Jesus contradicts such:"

Jesus also hung out with prostitutes, liars, thieves, the poor, and criminals. But, by all means, continue to turn people away from your religion. The prospect of fewer people like you is encouraging.

You are no Christian. You aren't a piece of fecal matter. You are every piece of fecal matter from the beginning of time until the end. You are the sum total of all excrement personified. You are a loathsome, hollow- hearted mound of bile and puss masquerading as a human being. You are an emotionally tone-deaf, abominable travesty whose every post is as rotten as it is disingenuous. If there is one molecule of human decency in your entire body, I feel extreme pity for it.

April 24, 2013 at 7:25 p.m.
conservative said...

Those who have a relationship with Jesus Christ prove so by their obedience. Conversely, those who don't have that relationship prove so by their disobedience:

“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.’ Mathew 7:21-23. Jesus is plainly intolerant here in this passage.

April 24, 2013 at 7:38 p.m.
aidehua said...

To quote Thomas Mann: Tolerance is a crime when applied to evil.

April 24, 2013 at 7:42 p.m.
conservative said...

Again, Jesus was intolerant about sin and wanted purity in his church. Jesus gave these instructions in dealing with sin in His church:

“If your brother sins, go and show him his fault in private; if he listens to you, you have won your brother. But if he does not listen to you, take one or two more with you, so that by the mouth of two or three witnesses every fact may be confirmed. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. Truly I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven. Mathew 18: 15-18.

April 24, 2013 at 7:49 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Okay, I've given today's posts a good read, and am now ready to give a brief report:

The liberal posters on this site are far more thoughtful, organized, and articulate than the conservatives. Attention to detail on the left gives way to frenetic, mistake filled egestions on the right. If the conservatives that post here were playing a piano instead of typing, it would be a cacophony of discordant tunes, not unlike an accordion in a clothes dryer.

April 24, 2013 at 8:14 p.m.
limric said...

Dude_abides,

Oh yea, that's what I'm talking about. Filet mignon commentary with content and eloquence. A depth of information subtly complicated while simultaneously simple enough someone purchasing a bag of Quickie Mart of pork rinds can comprehend.

Nicely done.

April 24, 2013 at 8:47 p.m.
Maximus said...

dude and Limpprick....the liberals are far more organized because they are unemployed, on welfare and have all the time in the world to compose and execute their thoughtful articulate responses and plans. Very much like the Boston Welfare Bombers. Glad I'm using my Netjets card tomorrow. Flying commercial would be a bitch what with our imperialist president imposing the sequester. Finally, trashing America is always viewed by liberals as being thoughtful and articulate. Vomit bags anyone?

April 24, 2013 at 11:12 p.m.
fairmon said...

mountainlaurel said...

Label aside, these brothers are just two more examples of sick self-absorbed people who are so consumed with their personal hatreds, their anger, and/or their causes they’ve become indifferent to the value of human life.

ML...Sounds like they may be Obama supporters.

April 24, 2013 at 11:16 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Maximusty,

"the liberals are far more organized because they are unemployed, on welfare and have all the time in the world to compose and execute their thoughtful articulate responses and plans."

You seem to post as much, if not more, than anyone here. You must be unemployed and on welfare as well, correct? Maybe they're just better educated, more thoughtful, more intelligent human beings that care about grammar, spelling, logic, honesty, and other such things. I'd think someone with a fake Vanderbilt education would at least try to appear competent.

"Very much like the Boston Welfare Bombers."

Your psychosis has been duly noted.

"Glad I'm using my Netjets card tomorrow. Flying commercial would be a bitch what with our imperialist president imposing the sequester."

Does anyone else smell bullsh!t?

"Finally, trashing America is always viewed by liberals as being thoughtful and articulate. Vomit bags anyone?"

You're the one trashing the President, the government, etc.. I haven't read anything from any "liberal" bashing America. Let me assure you, thoughtful and articulate are two words that will never be used to describe you.

Here's an idea: instead of a vomit bag, why don't you wad that fake Vanderbilt diploma up and shove it up your ass. Maybe that will stop the violent expulsion of excrement from one end of the degenerate half-wit that is Maximusty.

April 25, 2013 at 12:10 a.m.
alprova said...

Maxipad wrote: "...the liberals are far more organized because they are unemployed, on welfare and have all the time in the world to compose and execute their thoughtful articulate responses and plans."

Today, you posted at 10:22am, 10:52am, 11:11am, 2:58pm, 4:12pm, 5:15pm, and at 11:12pm.

Yesterday, you posted nine times at 5:03am, 8:19am, 11:26am. 3:07pm, 3:38pm, 3:42pm, 10:27pm, 10:47pm, and 11:25pm.

Monday, you posted twelve times at 8:17am, 8:23am, 11:03am, 11:11am, 11:25am, 11:41am, 12:30pm, 12:32pm, 12:32pm, 12:53pm, 1:02pm, and 1:07pm.

Sunday, you posted seven times at 10:24am, 10:38am, 11:42am, 11:44am, 11:52am, 4:26pm, and 4:31pm.

Saturday, you posted five times at 12:13am, 6:58am, 8:58am, 10:46am, and then at 8:54pm.

I don't have any idea what it is you do for a living, or even if you do work for a living, but what is evident based on the previous five days, is that you are no businessman in charge of three enterprises, a day trader, or anything else you claim.

Either you change nics or you work part-time, during the evening hours, at best.

April 25, 2013 at 12:20 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Fairmon says: “Sounds like they may be Obama supporters.”

Since when did you become interested in the value of life, Fairmon? Your previous posts have strongly suggested that you are someone completely devoid of compassion when it comes to your fellow Americans – with the exception of the wealthiest 1%, of course.

April 25, 2013 at 11:29 a.m.
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