published Thursday, December 5th, 2013

5-at-10: Fab 4 picks, Winston announcement, UT recruiting and Tiger

Gang, hope you are stoked for a weekend that could be fantabulous. We are.

We also hope that you have used the link here on the TFP website to listen to Press Row. Or that you are listening from 3-6 on 105.1 FM locally. Good times. (And if you have any trouble with it, please let us know.)

Without further ado, or further I do or even further redo — and we're stopping there — let's do work.

From the "Talks too much" studios, tell 'em 'bout it Jo-Jo.

Fab 4-plus-1 picks

Gang, the pickings are slim and we need to close quickly after a less-than-entertaining 4-6 mark with our online picks last week. We're 48-37-1 against the number so far this year. Now as we all know, these picks are for entertainment only, but let's assume you invested 100 entertainment vouchers on each pick, you'd be 720 entertainment vouchers to the good (including the entertainment commission for your local entertainment brokers; and with most things we encourage buying local when possible. Remember gang, piracy is not a victimless crime).

So it goes, and in truth it should be a lot better. We got too cute after a fast start. We abandon two primary rules too frequently: We ignored the fundamental creed that lines that look too good to be true normally are and we did not ride hot horses to the finish. If you had bet on Auburn (10-2 vs. the spread), Missouri (11-1 vs. the spread), Duke (9-2-1 vs. the spread), FSU (10-2 vs. the spread) and Wisconsin (9-2-1 vs. the spread after starting 9-0-1) all year, that quintet went 49-9-2 against the line this year. That's enough entertainment to handle Christmas — through like 2016.

That said, four of those covering machines face off this weekend, and we can see reasons to support each side. So we're not going to support any. (Of those, Duke catching 29 points caught our eye, but the number-crunching does not compute. Check this: The line has gone FSU -27 to FSU -29 despite almost 70 percent of the action being on Duke. So the guys who make their living doing this want the action on Duke — if 70 percent of the action is on the underdog the line should get smaller not bigger. So Vegas wants the public's entertainment on Duke, and when Vegas wants your money on one team it's because they want your money.)

Auburn-Missouri over 58: Fast turf. Big play offenses and defenses. High stakes for each, so the playbook has been flipped from "wide open" straight to "ludicrous speed." We expect each to play fast, and we expect each offense to play well. That means points. Lots and lots of points.

Ohio State minus-5 over Michigan State: Strength on strength when THE Ohio State offense plays the Michigan State defense. Blah on blah when the Spartans' offense goes against the Buckeyes' D. It's the strengths that will decide it, because in truth, the Spartans can't get much beyond 24 points without freaky scores. So ask yourself, will the Buckeyes and that juggernaut offense get four TDs? We say yes, since their lowest output of the season was 31 against Wisconsin.

Central Florida minus-10 over SMU: The Knights are talented and tough — and quarterback Blake Bortles has emerged as a potential first-round pick according to ESPN draft guru Todd McShay. With a BCS bowl on the line for UCF — and George O'Leary would have been a coach of the year contender without the extraordinary runs by the winning firm of Malzahn, Pinkel and Cutcliffe — here's saying the Knights handle their BID-ness quickly and efficiently.

Fresno State minus-3 over Utah State: Utah State has four losses, but those are to the two Pac-12 teams and Boise State and BYU, so it is better than its record. Fresno State is coming off its worst performance of the season. In the 1+1+1=14 world of betting, that means Fresno State rolls.

Montana minus-5 over Coastal Carolina: This is a shoutout for the FCS fans out there — and Maximus, we'll have more on the playoffs in Sunday's TFP. And did you notice that the last SoCon team alive gets the treat of traveling to North Dakota State for a JMC dream shot against the Alabama of the FCS. As for this pick, not all local entertainment brokers have numbers on the FCS games so there's that. There's also the trip to Montana, the weather, the crowd and the fact that the Grizzlies are extremely comfortable in the playoffs. The Chanticleers, not so much.


Decision day

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    Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston (5) scrambles for yardage in Gainesville, Fla., in this Nov. 30, 2013, file photo.
    Photo by Associated Press /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

In the messy mess that has been the investigation of the rape allegation against FSU star quarterback Jameis Winston, there has been little news and none of it entertaining.

The breaking news Wednesday that the authorities have completed their investigation and will announce whether they are going to press charges — which would result in Winston, the Heisman front-runner and the trigger man for the nation's No. 1 team, being dismissed from school — or not is a good decision. The announcement will be at 2 p.m. today, and regardless of the decision, announcing it before this weekend, when the fate of the season and the season's biggest individual award will be crystalized, is the prudent play. We concur with a lot of what TFP ace columnist Mark Wiedmer wrote here.

FSU believes that Winston will be cleared, which makes sense since why would you hold a press conference to announce someone is going to be charged rather than just go arrest them and hold the press conference after the fact.

We want to believe that, no matter how much better the timing of an announcement today would be for the college football world, the correct and just decision was made, regardless of how it affects the college football landscape.


UT recruiting beat goes on

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    Station Camp receiver Josh Malone speeds up the field for a touchdown during their game against Hendersonville. He committed to Tennessee on Wednesday.
    Photo by The Tennessean /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

The Vols landed another major commitment Wednesday when five-star wide receiver Josh Malone — no relation to Moses or Sam Malone — picked UT over a host of power programs.

Malone is the second five-star in UT's swollen class of 33 — more on that in a moment — and he's also the second in-state five-star, joining running back Jalen Hurd.

In truth, recruiting has far and away been the high point of Butch Jones' first year, and that's a good thing. The Vols were under-manned in almost every SEC game this year, and the underachievement of an offensive line billed to be a collection of NFL players, made every offensive possession a fight.

So if you are not happy with your roster, what do you do?

In the NFL, you either hope for a draft miracle or you go free agency and hope to find a diamond in the bushes. In college, you recruit. Hard.

And the Vols have done just that and have made the most of a special opportunity that was present in this recruiting class. Considering the Vols overwhelming needs and their recent struggles — three straight 5-7 seasons is less than mediocre — landing a major crop of talent was going to be tough.

But, there were a slew of highly regarded legacies in this class, guys like Todd Kelly, Dillon Bates and the Berry twins. (And, like they say in Animal House, "legacies are generally asked to pledge, unless the legacy in question is a complete closet case... Like Fred.")

The state of Tennessee also has more talent this year — including two five-star kids for the first time in memory — than we normally see.

So the Vols are trying to rework the roster. They currently have room to take 30 signees in this class; they have 33 commits already and are expecting one more Friday when offensive lineman Charles Mosley announces his decision. Plus, the Vols are in the mix for a slew of other supremely high-profile guys.

Expect some grayshirts — maybe those new uniforms were a little foreshadowing — and expect some transfers and roster causalities come this spring.

It's a numbers game, and we all saw this season, the Vols need better numbers.


This and that

— OK, would the real UNC stand up? After losing to UAB last week, the Tar Heels topped top-ranked Michigan State and did it in relatively easy fashion. MSU coach Tom Izzo told reporters after the game it "one of the more disappointing performances of my career here." Wow, here's sayong practice at East Lansing today may not be a walk at the beach.

— Side point: Michigan State and Louisville are two athletic programs having seriously nice runs in the hoops and football right now. And Duke. (Anyone still stunned about Duke winning 10 football games in a season? Ten wins used to be three-plus years.)

— Mike Tomlin got a $100K fine for his sideline dance during the Thanksgiving night game against the Ravens that interfered with a Baltimore kick returned running down the sideline. We're OK with the fine — Tomlin's smirk and look gave the appearance he may have done it on purpose — and think he probably should have been suspended a game, but we're strongly against the Steelers losing draft picks for this. We also think the referees who did not throw a flag on the play should be a little lighter in the wallets.

— Tiger Woods talked about 2014 with reporters on Wednesday. He talked about the major championship venues, and how they set up well for the 14-time major champ (although to be fair, when Tiger's playing well every venue, from Augusta National to Sir Goony's sets up well for him). We know he's won four Masters, but he also won the British Open the last time it was at Royal Liverpool and won at Valhalla in 2000, the sites of next year's British and PGA Championship, respectively. The US Open is at Pinehurst, and Tiger finished second and tied for third the last two times the US Open was there.

— Apparently the green light has been given to a Terminator reboot. We're good with that. Plasma rifle with the 40 watt range. We'll be back.

— We told you that the top-10 lists were coming and we shared some yesterday. Today, here are the top 10 puppy names for 2013. Yep, it's a dog-eat-dog world:

Female puppies

1) Bella

2) Daisy

3) Lucy

4) Molly

5) Sadie

6) Sophie (which was also No. 1 for baby girls)

7) Lola

8) Chloe

9) Zoey

10) Maggie

Male puppies

1) Max

2) Buddy

3) Charlie

4) Rocky

5) Cooper

6) Duke

7) Bear

8) Jack

9) Bentley

10) Toby


Today's question

Feel free to chime in on any of the above.

If you need a talking point, here are but three:

— Will Tiger win a major in 2014?

— Who you got in the SEC title game and why?

— Thoughts on UT recruiting?

Discuss and remember the mailbag.

about Jay Greeson...

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chas9 said...

Old business: During a Tennessee TV cast a common tater quoted Butch saying that "Dobbs has more street cred than any player he's coached." Help. What does that mean?

I've been dogging UT point guard Antonio Barton, who only totaled 11 points, 4 boards and 0 (zip, nada) assists for two games added together (Texas-El Paso and Xavier). I've thought Darius Thompson would supplant him in The Vols' lineup.

But Thompson's stat line is underwhelming, too. The Cuonz may have a better idea.

In The Vowels' big win over Wake, big Stokes had a 21/10 double double. Barton had a good game (7/5/3) playing only 21 minutes.

I'm not sure how their minutes mixed in, but five guards (Thompson, Richardson, McRae, Davis & Hubbs) had more minutes than Barton, and another guard (Moore) got 7 minutes. I know some of those are wing players, but it looks like Martin is trying a variety of chemistry experiments to see what alternatives the team has. And that's what he should be doing.

Caution: Wake isn't the elite team of a decade ago.

I've also dogged UNC, which put a big hurt on #1 Michigan State in Lansing. (This after losing to UAB and tiny Belmont.) The Baby Blues Brothers have lately taken a while to gel, so they could be good by Dance time.

Have you noticed how lean and mean Willie Cauley-Stein looks this season? He's lost his baby fat and you might not even recognize him now. He's quicker, too.

You heard that The Unibrow has broken his hand. Now MKG has imitated him. And Cousins has sprained his ankle. But John Wall is doing the Dougie and has his Wizards up to .500.

December 5, 2013 at 10:06 a.m.
MocTastic said...

UT recruting? as in UTK? Don't know nor care much.

Now we really are interested in how UTC is doing out there locking up some stud recruits. What is everybody hearing?

December 5, 2013 at 10:22 a.m.
BIspy4 said...
  1. No

  2. Have friends who pull for both. But having an ex-boss who is an Auburn grad ... and another, um, friend who is, um, drop dead gorgeous and a two-time Auburn grad ... War Eagle.

  3. None.

Michigan State can play some D (which Michigan most assuredly did not last week) but I don't think the Spartys' offense can overcome THE Ohio State University's offense. For those who have not seen, Carlos Hyde is a load who can move and Braxton Miller ain't too bad. Shoot, his backup, Kenny Guyton, would be a star somewhere else.

Count me as very surprised Duke is a 10-win team. But give them credit for how they've won, too. They have won with some great special teams play (kickoff returns for TDs against Miami and UNC) and a two-QB system. Now, they didn't have to play FSU or Clemson from the other side in the regular season. Remember the name Jamison Crowder.

Fargo. Where national championship dreams go to die.

I have seen 5-star linebacker prospect Raekwon McMillan a couple of times and frankly, he's good but ... not great. I expect him to dominate and he makes plays but not as many as you would think. Now, the freshman defensive back at his school, whom Florida and Ohio State have already offered, yeah, he's legit.

You want a hidden gem from the Peach State recruiting crop? I give you Malique Jackson, Wayne County's quarterback headed to Florida State to play DB. Baller. Straight out baller.

December 5, 2013 at 10:24 a.m.
jgreeson said...

Spy —

But is he a baller, shot caller, with 20-inch rims on the Impalla?

McMillan does have major recruit cred.

Concur on the MSU vs THE OSU breakdown.

MT —

We'll see what we can find from Ned Ryerson and report back. His breakdown of UTC recruiting needs was in today's TFP so there's that.

9er —

Not sure how Dobbs has so much street cred being from the rough and tumble Alpharetta, the suburb of the A-T-L that is akin to Lookout Mountain, only flatter and without Rock City.

We'll give Mr. WCS a special look the next time UK's in action.

December 5, 2013 at 10:31 a.m.
BIspy4 said...

5, you know me ... I hit the highway, makin money then fly away.

Oh, the streets of Alpharetta. Where the wrong side of the tracks ... is still better than your neighborhood.

December 5, 2013 at 10:56 a.m.
MocTastic said...

JG, read Ned's article, he gives good information. Have noticed UTC is supposedly looking at JUCO LB out of California, Gervell Morgan, who played hs ball at Signal Mountain. Any of you local pigskin experts have any thoughts on him? Given, he played hs ball two years ago.

December 5, 2013 at 11:21 a.m.
jgreeson said...

MT —

Saw Gervell a bunch during the Eagles' state title run a few years ago.

Was nice blend of size-speed then, especially on the high school level. Also was not afraid of contact then. If he has gotten bigger — like most college players do — and has remained at roughly the same speed level, he could be quite a player.

Reminded us a lot of former McCallie and UTC stud linebacker Chris Johnson when we saw him in high school.

Spy —

No doubt. There are some parts of Alpharetta where households only have one Escalade.

Oh, the humanity.

December 5, 2013 at 11:48 a.m.
jgreeson said...

From friend of the show StuckinKent, part I

How many points can Michigan State score? More than Michigan did. Let's break down Michigan's offense compared to Michigan State's.

The played five common opponents (Iowa, Nebraska, Minnesota, Northwestern, and Notre Dame). In those five games, Michigan averaged 301.2 yards per game (288.6 in regulation). Michigan State averaged 363.0 yards per game. In November, Michigan averaged 293.8 (281.2 in regulation) yards per game (against Michigan State, Nebraska, Northwestern, Iowa and Ohio State). Michigan State averaged 385.8 (against Michigan, Nebraska, Northwestern and Minnesota). That includes the 603 YARDS that Michigan gained against Ohio State. They still are averaging around 100 yards less per game than Michigan State.

Why will Ohio State be able to stop Michigan State? What makes anyone think that Ohio State will be able to score against Michigan State? I just don't see it. Michigan State beats Ohio State. They are the better team. Maybe I'm wrong. I'll eat crow on Monday on this one more than likely. Probably Ohio State shows up and plays their best game and wins 63-3 after listening to everyone talk about how awful they played against Michigan all week. But I was picking Michigan State last week because I thought they were probably the better team, and Ohio State didn't show me anything to make me re-think my position last week.

I think your UCF-SMU pick may differ greatly depending on the result of tonight's game. If Louisville beats Cincinnati, there is nothing for UCF to play for, and it's a road game. I think they win, but they may not cover a big spread (they have been playing a lot of close games lately, it feels like). If Cincinnati wins and UCF has to win to win the American and get the BCS bowl, I think they come out fired up and dominate SMU. That's one I wish I could hold off on.

December 5, 2013 at 11:49 a.m.
jgreeson said...

From friend of the show StuckinKent, part II —


Ohio State and Michigan State had six common opponents (Michigan, Iowa, Northwestern, Purdue, Indiana and Illinois). Ohio State gained 529 yards per game in those games. Michigan State gained 419 (not exactly terrible). Take out the Purdue game where OSU was dominant and Michigan State was not good, and OSU averaged 507 yards and Michigan State 444.

Ohio State has allowed 398.8 yards per game to those six. Michigan State allowed 242.7 (and didn't give up 398 in a single one of those games). Taking out Ohio State's two extremes (603 against Michigan and 116 against Purdue) and they allow 418.5 per game.

Ohio State averaged outscoring those six opponents 45.6-24 (a margin of 21.6 points per game). Michigan State averaged outscoring them 30.7-9.5 (21.2 points per game).

Michigan State beat every single Big Ten opponent by double digits. OSU beat Wisconsin by 7, Michigan by 1, and if not for a fluke last second touchdown, would have beaten Northwestern by 4, and even their ten point win over Iowa (not to mention the actual 10 point win over Northwestern) is smaller than any victory Michigan State had against a Big Ten team this year. That's four games Ohio State won by a smaller margin against Big Ten teams than ANY Big Ten game Michigan State played this year.

I guess Ohio State-Michigan State should be considered equals, but I'll take my chances on Michigan State. Yes, Miller and Hyde are something else. But I'll still take Michigan State.

I'm really curious in your thoughts on it all.

December 5, 2013 at 11:49 a.m.
mcpell3 said...

I like Stucky's pick. I agree MSU will "upset" TOSU. Another factor- I think TOSU believes they are in the NC, and MSU is shooting for the Rose Bowl. They haven't been since 1988 (I think)and want it badly.

What are the odds on an Iron Bowl II?

December 5, 2013 at 12:18 p.m.
MocTastic said...

Iron Bowl II? Not likely. More likely would be FSU/Alabama. FSU wins. OSU loses. Mizzou beats AU. Alabama jumps OSU and AU and gets the title game. This of course would make a complete mockery out of the SEC Championship game, if you took a "third place" SEC team over a 12-1 SEC Champ, but it would be very possible to happen.

To get an Iron Bowl II, OSU must lose, FSU must lose and Winston gets arrested and AU beats Mizzou. I just don't see FSU losing with or without Winston.

December 5, 2013 at 12:32 p.m.
LaughingBoy said...

Gervell Morgan would be a great addition to the Mocs. I had forgotten all about him. Whatever happened to the other linebacker that went west to a juco, the center of all the controversy a couple of years back?

"Lack of institutional control" must be not be a part of the TSSAA guidelines. Cutting spring practice and two weeks of summer lifting for Marion County gives any team license to cheat at will, as long as their conduct is not specifically against the rules. "Don't penalize the kids", doesn't that happen when any team is hit for recruiting or accidentally playing an ineligible player?

I am really pulling for Michigan State. A Florida State vs. Ohio State matchup would be as exciting as last year's thumping in the title game.

And as for Dobbs, are we now about to witness the strength of street knowledge?

December 5, 2013 at 12:34 p.m.
jgreeson said...

Stuck —

The number crunching lends a ton of credence to your pick. But the similar canvas that is common opponent is skewed in regard to analytical data.

Michigan State has to strangle its foe and the game to win; Ohio State sprints to big numbers and shrugs its shoulders for the most part at the opposition. And as bad as The Ohio State's schedule was, Michigan State's was worse.

Too much at stake for the Buckeyes; plus the indoor track really helps Miller and Hyde and Co.

You're breakdown is factual and makes good sense. We're using the eye test and playing a gut feeling. We're still on the Buckeyes — and we don't think it's going to be that close.

As for the other pick, UCF needs to win either way tot get into the BCS — the AAC is not an automatic bid league.

McPell —

If you think The Ohio State is looking past MSU, do you feel the Tigers are looking by Mizzou?

And Mich. State was in the '87 Rose if memory serves.

MT —

Yes, you're spot on that Iron Bowl II is a monster long shot because it does not happen without an FSU loss. But as Loyd from Dumb and Dumber says, "So you're saying there's a chance."

LB —

Last we heard Tim McClenden was out west at a junior college as well — College of the Sequoias we believe. He also looked the part. Not sure how he progressed academically, but that kid was ready physically to play on Saturday.

We're OK with the Marion County ruling since all the parties involved were sent packing. Hard to punish the kids left standing in the wake.

December 5, 2013 at 1:13 p.m.
jgreeson said...

From friend of the show StuckinKent —

MT- Mizzou jumps Bama with a win over Auburn. Alabama will not go to the championship game without an FSU and OSU loss, and may not even then. I think Oklahoma State may be more appealing as conference champs. I'm not sure though. I think it would be a big debate. That's my opinion anyway. I believe that some computer formulas take into account if you win your conference championship or not. I know my formula does. That means that prior to this week, Alabama is not being hurt by that, but starting next week, when the evaluation is about which team has accomplished the most, Alabama will be hurt by that. They will also be hurt by an Auburn loss. If they couldn't beat Auburn, why could Missouri- particularly if Missouri wins by more than one score?

December 5, 2013 at 1:24 p.m.
MocTastic said...

I think that "SEC Fatigue" might be setting in amongst voters outside the southern states also..any chance to get a team like OK State in they might take it.

December 5, 2013 at 1:40 p.m.
jgreeson said...

MT —

Concur about the SEC fatigue possibly being a monster factor.

For Bama to get another shot at the BCS:

1) Florida State has to lose

2) THE Ohio State has to lose

3) Auburn needs to win

4) Oklahoma State needs to struggle vs. Oklahoma

Then it would be Iron Bowl II — and we think Alabama would win by at least two TDs.

As for Iron Bowl II in the Sugar, well, they better get more FBI guys for the days leading up to the game. Wow.

December 5, 2013 at 1:47 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

5, I don't get all the furor over Ohio State's schedule. Their out of conference games were no worse than Auburn's. In fact, they're pretty similar. Bad Pac 10 team. FCS cupcake. Lower level FBS paydays.

And they played Iowa and Wisconsin and gave Penn State an historic whuppin. They beat Northwestern when the Wildcats were ranked. Auburn didn't have to play Missouri or South Carolina, scraped by an injury-ravaged Georgia team and got to face the likes of woeful Arkansas and Tennessee and middlin' Ole Miss and Missy State.

It's the same level of lunacy when people say Notre Dame didn't play anybody last year. As if they didn't beat the Pac 12 and Rose Bowl champ. Or the co-Big 12 champ. Or beat nine bowl teams and another that was bowl eligible.

December 5, 2013 at 1:52 p.m.
chas9 said...

Stuckey--I've been known to use stats the way you did, but I'm like Jay in that my gut says TOSU. But I hope I'm wrong.

Any stories in the Bluegrass on how WC-S got so lean and mean looking this year?

MT--Good work. Are you a logician?

I understand a College of Cardinals, but how can there be a College of Sequoias?

December 5, 2013 at 1:53 p.m.
MocTastic said...

JG using your scenario there could even be a block of voters who might push MSU into getting into the title game, after all they would be 12-1, Big 10 Champs, and coming out of a win over an undefeated Ohio St team. It would give an out for people not wanting an Iron Bowl II and play into the SEC Fatigue theory.

I don't think anybody outside of Alabama fans really wants an Iron Bowl II. Been there, done that, give us another game.

December 5, 2013 at 1:53 p.m.
mcpell3 said...

5- I don't think Auburn is looking past Mizzou. I am more worried about the Iron Bowl hangover, and Mizzou's D-line. I can't argue with TOSU being in the NC if they are undefeated. I also think you don't beat Saban two times in a year.

I think SEC fatigue set in after the LSU-Bama rematch.

December 5, 2013 at 2:02 p.m.
jgreeson said...

Spy —

Difference in AU's and THE Ohio State's schedule:

Bad Pac-10 team: Cal went 1-11; Washington State is 6-6 and will bowl

Arkansas State and Buffalo are likely pushes.

THE Ohio State has nothing approaching a win at Texas A&M when the Aggies were full strength and Auburn's entire argument is in that it slayed the dragon that is Alabama. That's the difference in our view.

MT —

Great point about the MSU rising in that scenario. The fatigue is there and real, and the fact that Bama got a rematch and destroyed LSU two years ago works for Bama's argument and against the chance it would happen since that game was gross.

9er —

We understand a College of Cardinals, too. As for the College of Sequoias, well, we're going to go out on a limb here and say the entry requirements are tall and the work load is think. You don't leave there without a good education, though, and you can be rooted for the future.

Amen and pass the acorns.

December 5, 2013 at 2:02 p.m.
jgreeson said...

McPell —

Concur on all fronts.

December 5, 2013 at 2:04 p.m.
MocTastic said...

Looking up Tim McClendon, on the 2012 roster for the College of the Sequoias, but not the 2013 roster. Only info I could find is one article where after four games of the 2012 he hadn't played yet due to a concussion. Seems to have dissapeared off the football radar.

December 5, 2013 at 2:06 p.m.
MocTastic said...

You know what guys...we are developing scenarios for what happens if you get a bunch of teams with one loss each. What does that tell us? What would rememdy that? Hmmmmmm..maybe a playoff? And more than 4 teams, a minimum of 8.

December 5, 2013 at 2:10 p.m.
jgreeson said...

From Stuck —

WRONG!!! The AAC is an automatic qualifier this year. You are dead wrong on this. Check it out. Don't know where. But it's everywhere. Otherwise, NIU would be in and UCF would be out. Check your facts.

I'm serious. I'm not making this up. The AAC is an automatic qualifier (taking the Big East's old spot) this year. This is the last year, but for this year they are.

I'm going on eye test too with Ohio State-Michigan State. I think Michigan State is better. The fact that Ohio State played four games closer than Michigan State played in the Big Ten does not lend credence to the "Ohio State throttled people and shrugged their shoulders" outlook. Were they shrugging their shoulders against Michigan? Iowa (one score game in fourth quarter)? Wisconsin (one score game in fourth quarter)? Northwestern (one score game until final play)? The question is if OSU is so ticked off about last week that they show up angry and play their best game of the year. If that happens, they win. Any other situation, Michigan State is the better team and wins.

December 5, 2013 at 2:15 p.m.
jgreeson said...

MT —

Thanks for the update. And the playoff is coming soon enough. And the scenario-guessing won't change next year, we'll just be planning which teams gets bids three or four and who got shafted from 5-7.

Stuck —

You are right about the AAC — we somehow mis-read that and mixed it up. And maybe Stuck can guest host McLaughlin Group. WRONG.

OK, we'll agree to disagree on the Big Ten title game.

Ohio State at Michigan in the second-best rivalry game that means the season to Michigan is not an even canvas. When Ohio State beat Northwestern, it had College GameDay there and was the biggest game in NU history and when MSU played NU, the Wildcats' two best offensive players were already lost for the year. MSU didn't even play Wisconsin.

See what you've done? You actually have an Auburn grad making arguments for The Ohio State and a rotten Big Ten.

And sweet buckets of national title confetti, we're praying that you're right and we're 100 percent wrong.

December 5, 2013 at 2:23 p.m.
Stewwie said...

An Iron Bowl II would have a better chance of happening in the Sugar Bowl, not the title game. Read more here:

December 5, 2013 at 2:25 p.m.
jgreeson said...

From Stuck —

Again, I may be overstating my case on Michigan State-Ohio State. They are roughly even, where I give a slight edge to Michigan State. Very slight edge.

Sometimes I get carried away in analysis. Ohio State is good. Michigan State is good. I think the chances are 60-40 or 70-30 Michigan State wins.

December 5, 2013 at 2:26 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

5, A&M is essentially Michigan. Record-setting QB. Very good receiver. Maybe some other good offensive parts. And 0 defense.

December 5, 2013 at 6:20 p.m.
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