published Tuesday, January 22nd, 2013

'Does editorial make any sense?' and more letters to the editors

Does editorial make any sense?

"Nusk" was the word for "batty, or not making sense" used by one of my sons when he was very young.

The question is asked regarding your Jan. 17 editorial, "Obama Exploits Tragedy" where you claimed "(Obama) showed his willingness to dance on the fresh graves of children for the sake of legacy, popularity...".

You ended the piece with, "(Obama's) unnecessary war on legal gun owners, expand surveillance on law-abiding citizens... ."

One might also ask the question: Who edits you? And, given the outlines of Obama's proposals that I've seen, are you making any sense? Where does your information come from? (Perhaps the same place that reported Warren Buffet to be a tax cheat?)

Since you are apparently free to show no restraint and appear to be a "libertarian loose cannon," why not share what you really think about the "controls" on child labor?


Berke has earned trust, confidence

Regarding the Free Press "Drew's Views" editorial Jan. 18, which asked, "Would Andy Berke make a good mayor? Who knows?"

I was not surprised to discover that you would be bereft of an answer to your own question. Clearly, the fact that you are a newcomer who has demonstrated on more than one occasion that you lack the substantive understanding of our community that can only be gained as a result of actually living here and being part of our fine city leaves you unable to answer your own question.

For the majority of Chattanooga residents, including this registered Republican, your question has a simple and credible answer. Specifically, Andy Berke and his family have been a positive influence in our city for generations. Andy was born and raised here and is a known and very credible leader who has earned the trust and confidence of Chattanooga residents. I can look back over the years at Andy's consistent demonstration of excellent moral character, family values and fine leadership skills, and I can comfortably conclude that Andy will make an excellent mayor for Chattanooga. I am glad that I was able to help you answer your own question.


Writer stokes reactionary fervor

"Obama exploits tragedy" is an editorial that ignores history and distorts facts. Our president is using an appallingly recurring event while Americans are focused on it to try to lessen the possibility of reliving yet another one. Compare that to results of George W. Bush exploiting the horrific attacks on 9/11/01 to stampede Americans into supporting an unnecessary war and accepting government intrusions on their liberties.

This defense of the status quo with respect to guns is rife with half truths, unsupported allegations and false equivalencies. One reason that this nation is so dangerously polarized is because of the recklessly fabricated and divisive assertions that writers such as this one routinely advance under the cover of defending individual rights against an imagined "tyrannical" government. This editorial is yet another example of the dangerous inciting of the ignorant and the fearful among us.

If the writer is as smart as I think he is, he should be ashamed of himself. If he is neither, this newspaper should look for a responsible spokesperson who promotes rational conservative thought rather than one who stokes mindless reactionary passions.

TED TIMELIER, Signal Mountain

Newspaper remiss in spreading story

Shame on the management of this paper for reprinting a national story that is derogatory to Subway by claiming that our footlong subs are not 12 inches. You managed to perpetuate an Internet story without checking the facts.

You may think it is funny, but as an employer of 60 people in your area, I don't. You will find every footlong piece of bread in my stores to be 12 inches long and freshly baked. Anyone can find a bad sandwich somewhere in this world and put it on the Internet to harm people, and it spreads from there. Be careful what you spread.

CHUCK MEGAHEE, Subway Franchisee

Trio ignoring those in need

Chris Carroll's report in Friday's paper titled "Superstorm aid 'no' votes draw donor criticism" tells a much larger, more important story about Scott DesJarlais, Chuck Fleischmann and Tom Graves. Our fellow Americans in the New York area are in extreme, dire need and were told by these three, "There is no help for you, and even though the Constitution has a general welfare clause, it doesn't apply to you."

There are some things we do based on our actions being the right thing to do. The traditional balance sheet of "debits and credit" is placed on the "back burner." We have to help those devastated by events beyond their control. We have to help them, no matter the cost. It is what we do, except for Fleischmann and DesJarlais from Tennessee and Graves from Georgia.

I can confidently and openly declare that I will never, ever vote for Chuck Fleischmann the representative from my district. I only wish I could vote against both Reps. Scott DesJarlais of Tennessee and Georgia's 9th Congressional representative Tom Graves. Fleischmann is a disgrace and a black eye for the 3rd District in Tennessee.


Some handicaps aren't visible

Today I found a rather poorly written note on the windshield of my car that stated, "You really looked handicap. Must be mental!?" I didn't notice when it was put there and spotted it when I arrived home.

Every once in a great while some fool condemns me for having a handicapped plate and using a handicapped spot. To those who do this to folks whose handicaps are not visible, I say, "Shame on you!" The people who make such comments/write such notes have no idea what handicaps we have, why we need the plates or placards on our cars, and why we use those spots. It could be anything from a heart condition to leukemia/cancer, skeletal issues, and other non-visible health problems.

Please mind your business and be grateful you don't need the plates, placards, spots or medical attention that goes with those "invisible" health issues. Your time would be better spent learning good grammar.


Economic woes result of abortion

My husband and I were driving in Trenton when we came upon a church sign that read the following: "Scalpels kill more kids than guns." A great sadness came over me as I realized the tragedy of the 20 children killed in Connecticut and also the tragedy of abortion.

In the U.S. there are 154 abortions per hour, 3,700 abortions a day, 1.3 million in a year, and since being legalized in 1973, 52 million and counting.

Through the years I have noted several facts about abortion.

It is evil. Abortion has decimated two generations in America since 1973.

We are disappearing as a nation because of abortion. By 2040 the majority will be Hispanic.

Our economic woes are the result of abortion. We don't have enough people to be productive and fill technical or menial jobs.

Our religious heritage and cultural beliefs have been all but wiped out by the influx of other nationalities and ethnic groups that fill the population void.

Abortion is progressively cruel, moving from first trimester to killing on demand to partial birth abortion.

God bless our Children, born and unborn!

HELEN FUSSELL, Rossville, Ga.

Mitchell gets things done

I write in support of Jerry Mitchell's candidacy for City Council District 2.

His love for Chattanooga is infectious, and I have enjoyed seeing him contribute to this community in so many ways as I've grown up in this city.

During his tenure at city Parks and Recreation under Mayors Kinsey and Corker, Jerry had a proven track record of getting things done. His work involved the community and reflected its desires. And made our city a better place.

Now, as a small business owner, I am excited for Jerry Mitchell to be on the council because he will be a strong advocate for entrepreneurs and our enterprises. He's been there. He understands.

Please vote for Jerry Mitchell for City Council if you live in District 2.


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Easy123 said...

This paper is losing its credibility. Exhibit A: printing Helen Fussell's letter.


January 22, 2013 at 12:29 a.m.
SICKofBS said...

"Abortion has decimated two generations in America since 1973. HELEN FUSSELL, Rossville, Ga."

I have seen this sentiment echoed many times,with different words, lately and I am astonished at the arrogance and ignorance of these people. First of all, you claim you want all these "God-given" rights (whatever that is supposed to actually mean) yet you want to deny a womens right to choose what she does with her own body. HER choice affects her, and not MASSES of people. Yet you same people scream about gun rights and when someone goes psycho, that one persons actions may, or may not, have deadly effects of MANY. Yet again, you scream and beat you bible bound head on the floor about how many innocents were killed by a medical procedure done behind closed doors as a decision by one women, for whatever reason. And your claim that the "generations are being decimated" are complete ignorant BS. Decimated means reduced to fraction, or just a small part, of what is was, put simplistically. (I'm trying to keep it to terms some can understand.) Hate to tell ya dearie, but the worlds population keeps growing and growing. Were are overcrowded. Maybe the "herd" does need thinning. But I digress. People who make this cry seem to think that abortion magically was created in recent decades. Wrong. It has been around for a loooong time. ( So basically, to paraphrase the recently departed very respected and sweet Pauline Phillips aka Dear Abby, MYOB. Mind Your Own Business, get your house in order, and stop trying to force others to live/conform to your beliefs. (Sorry for the long rant. My ADD and lack of coffee took over)

January 22, 2013 at 5:47 a.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

God, loving those innocent little fetuses as only He can, loves abortion. Except Jehovah doesn't want abortions performed in medical clinics under medical professionals. Jehovah prefers the old-fashinoned method that shows His great love.

"Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up. -- Hosea 13:16

Thank God for His compassion in protecting innocent children, His loving-kindness to women, and His preference for quick abortions. He is truly a character to worship as a kind old holy father.

January 22, 2013 at 8:23 a.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

As to the Subway debacle, here's NPR's take.

Perhaps Chuck can have a ruler where he measures the bun before filling it with all that garden and meaty goodness.

But Chuck, you must understand, for a man to lie about 12 inches isn't that unusual. So whip yours out (bun and ruler) and everyone will salute in wonder and amazement at your 12 inches. Might increase your business too!

January 22, 2013 at 8:49 a.m.
moon4kat said...

Byron Chapin and Ted Timelier -- thank you both for fine letters pointing out the perfidy and shamelessness of the FP editorialist(s). I read newspapers to stay informed -- not be fed malicious, hate-filled propaganda. I stop reading publications that promote that brand of "information."

January 22, 2013 at 10:17 a.m.
LibDem said...

1.3 million abortions. That would be one for each 125 females each year. Assuming some are beyond childbearing, all the more startling. When do women find the time?

(Nice little slap at Hispanics, as well. Not part of the nation, I guess.)

January 22, 2013 at 2:05 p.m.
Easy123 said...


10-25% of clinically recognized pregnancies end in miscarriage. Therefore, it would be safe to assume that 130,000 to 325,000 of those aborted pregnancies would have ended in miscarriage anyway.

January 22, 2013 at 2:50 p.m.
AndrewLohr said...

Sick, does the freedom you're so fond of mean liberals can't grope my wallet? You buy your contraceptives and I'll buy mine, and our neighbor who disapproves of them is free not to buy?

darwin, triune Jehovah shows mercy on some, but "nature red in tooth and claw" kills all. I'll follow Jesus, with love to be crucified for his people and power to rise from the dead, showing something beyond nature is true. Consider your favorite novelist or TV show. Do you consider him/her/it evil because he creates villains who do bad things? No (I presume), you consider the whole story, and some parts of it as revealing the author's character more than others. So Jesus reveals God, and the nastiness of nature, or in the mirror, is something He can handle.

January 23, 2013 at 6:37 a.m.
Easy123 said...


"You buy your contraceptives and I'll buy mine, and our neighbor who disapproves of them is free not to buy?"

That's exactly how it works now. Covering contraceptions on insurance has nothing to do with you. You aren't buying anyones contraceptives and you never will. That isn't even the issue. Get your head out of your ass.

"with love to be crucified for his people and power to rise from the dead"

Human sacrifice is abominable and you worship it.

"showing something beyond nature is true."

Altruism is very natural. Many animals including humans display that behavior.

"Do you consider him/her/it evil because he creates villains who do bad things?"

If that villain came to life and did bad things to real people then yes, I would consider it's creator evil.

"So Jesus reveals God, and the nastiness of nature, or in the mirror, is something He can handle."

You mean the nastiness of "God's" nature. Your god obviously can't handle evil. Your god is either impotent or not real.

January 23, 2013 at 6:42 a.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Lohr, if your god is real, then you're an apologist for the biggest villain in history, the creator of mass murder, rape,genocide, disease, famine, and every ill that befalls humanity.

Some good god you're following. A god who creates to torture his creations. In humans we call that psychopathic; in your god you call that love.

Who's the twisted, deranged one here? God the cruelest of creatures or the apologists who call such cruelty love and worship such a demon?

January 23, 2013 at 9:03 a.m.

Please, please take one moment to read and learn. It will do you no harm.

Jesus Christ is The Perfect God. (There's only 'one' number one, no

ties. His Name is Jesus Christ. He demands perfection. You & me can

no more fully comprehend God than an earthworm can fully comprehend

your or me! He has no limitations. He can and does operate as our

'Thrice Holy God'.

Fact 1...Adam & Eve sinned, no telling how many times. They endured
the consequences of these sins.

Fact 2...Adam & Eve had children who sinned, no telling how many times. They endured the consequences of their sins.

Fact 3...Adam & Eve's children had children who sinned, no telling how many times. They endured the consequences of their sins.

Fact 4....Approximately 200 generations have occurred since Adam & Eves's time.

Fact 5...Nearly 7 Billion people are currently committing sins. These all result in unknown consequences.

Fact 6...Approximately 25 Billion people have lived and sinned since Adam & Eve. 25 Billion have experienced incalculable consequences for their sins.

Fact 7...No super computer could ever calculate the number of sins possible to 25 billion people. Far beyond this, no super computer could ever calculate the number and types of consequences for these sins.

This earth is reeling from the horrors of life due to the consequences of sin. Only the loving mercy & grace of our Saviour, Jesus Christ is keeping some of us from the ultimate consequence...

.......Hell, Fire, and, Brimstone in the Lake of Fire for eternity.

Receive Jesus Christ now, before it's forever too late. Shun Hell and Gain Heaven!


January 24, 2013 at 1:59 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Adam and Eve had two sons. Who did they marry, Ken?

January 24, 2013 at 6:22 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Ken Orr should never be able to say the word "fact".

January 24, 2013 at 8:06 a.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Sin — a state of being happy or tranquil that Orr will never know and can't stand in his demented mind, therefore condemns as an affront to his god, punishable by burning fire for eternity in Orr's home, called 'Ignorance.'

January 24, 2013 at 8:55 a.m.


Do you think it was incumbent upon Jesus to disclose every person He created concomitantly/simultaneously during Genesis 1:26/Genesis 2:21? i don't think so. Years ago a television show aired entitled 'How did they do that?' Sometimes we could only get the answer, as stated, "They just did." That's all...nothing more to be said. "They just did."

How did Jesus Christ do that? He just did, that's all, He just did. (Period). kwo

Few things in life are more dangerous than assumptions<<<

January 24, 2013 at 8:36 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

You end your post full of assumptions with "Few things in life are more dangerous than assumptions". Cute.

January 24, 2013 at 8:42 p.m.


Sometimes you make me so angry, and i don't even know you. I don't know where you come up with your replies, but they certainly are provocative. I think (presume) you must do this on purpose just to be inflammatory. kwo

January 24, 2013 at 8:46 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Orr wrote: "How did Jesus do that? He just did, that's all, He just did. (Period). kwo"

There's the pseudo-logic of a madman. It's wonderful that humanity progressed beyond accepting religious dogma as fact, otherwise mankind would still be cave-dwellers and Orr would be the village shaman casting bones for divination and believing that thunder was some sky god's anger.

How marvelous we have science and no use for magical mumbo-jumbo, except to show that not all humanity advances; some remain in the caves of self-imposed darkness like Orr, still tossing the bones.

January 24, 2013 at 8:48 p.m.


You make me angry too. Is that what you try to do?...irritate people. Why don't you sometimes just try to get along with somebody? Why do you always look for the tiniest things that somebody might have mistakenly said, and then make a huge mountain out of it. Is that how you want people to think about you, that you nit-pick?

January 24, 2013 at 8:52 p.m.

It's people like you and easy and lkeithlu that cause somebody to have to take blood pressure medication. You irritate people and then go off and relax after you have purposely distressed somebody. What i'm trying to say is that you need to learn how to get along with other people better. kwo

January 24, 2013 at 9:03 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

If you are distressed, try to consider why. You come here and post nonsense, and then get upset when you are called out for it? You have three choices it seems: learn something about the world and correct your view when people point out your mistakes, go away, or suck it up. What is it going to be?

I think (presume) you must do this on purpose just to be inflammatory

Yes, because time after time I tried to talk to you like an adult, only to fail to make any progress. You came back and posted the same crap in spite of my efforts.

January 24, 2013 at 9:08 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

I don't care about getting along with religious bigots, Orr. I wouldn't get along with Nazi's, Klansmen, or the Taliban either.

You didn't say anything mistakenly, Orr. You backtrack when called on your BS. It's all in your posts, Orr. Free for anybody to go back and see. You're lying again, Orr.

I'm happy to nit-pick. If you don't pick nits, they become lice. And lice brings typhus. You're typhus in the making, Orr. I'm the insecticide that keeps you from spreading unabated.

January 24, 2013 at 9:08 p.m.

Well, my boss man caught me writing comments. Anyway we're closing the office, and, i'm headed North toward Ooltewah. As to "What is it going to be?" It's not an either/or. I will 1. suck it up, and, then 2. 'try' to correct my view.


January 24, 2013 at 9:17 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

I'm not gonna hold my breath.

January 24, 2013 at 9:18 p.m.

Hey~While my computer was closing down this popped up. Wow, this is the way it is done, gang! (Yes, you certainly can hold your breath and then breath on more freely real soon, because i believe in positive self-correction). Anyway, here's what just showed up on how to correct someone:

"Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted." Galatians 6:1 KJV


January 24, 2013 at 9:24 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

I won't believe it til I see it. You have a track record with me that says otherwise, and I no longer trust what you say here.

January 24, 2013 at 9:35 p.m.
dao1980 said...

Don't make him angry.... you wouldn't like him when he's angry...

AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! What a clinically foolish dingletoot. (I invented and copyrighted that word by the way)..

January 25, 2013 at 2:06 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

I predict Webster's Dictionary will have it within five years.

January 25, 2013 at 2:33 p.m.
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