published Tuesday, July 30th, 2013

5-at-10: Giving it our best effort on the Braves, beer and Butch Jones

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    President Barack Obama speaks at the University of Central Missouri in Warrensburg, Mo., in this file photo.
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Morning Barack, how's your mom and 'em?

We all know the President is in our fair town today. Here's hoping that those that want to protest do and those that want to praise do and those that want to show their butts stay home.

In the words of Ron Burgandy, "You stay classy Chattanooga."

From the "Talks too much" studio,

CUH-razy Braves game

Somebody had a case of the Mondays in the Braves' 9-8 win in 10 innings.

Brandon Beachy made his first big-league start in 13 months after elbow surgery, and the much-anticipated return fizzled. Actually it was worse than that. It flamed out. Fast.

Beachy gave up seven earned runs and failed to get out of the fourth. The offense bailed him out and took him off the hook with a no-decision.

Beachy debacle was only part of the story.

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    Colorado Rockies' Carlos Gonzalez, right, is tagged out by Atlanta Braves second baseman Dan Uggla, left, as he attempts to steal second base in the seventh inning of a baseball game in Atlanta.
    Photo by Associated Press /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

Scott Downs, the lefty relieved the Braves acquired Monday, arrived in Atlanta about 10 minutes before the first pitch, showered while Beachy was getting torched, got dressed and went to the bullpen to meet his new teammates.

After the Braves offense rallied from a 5-0 Beachy-induced hole to take an 8-7 lead into the ninth, Downs was called into service about 12 hours after the trade was announced.

With closer Craig Kimbrel unavailable — great decision by Fredi G in our view after Kimbrel closed the last three wins over the Cards — Jordan Walden blew the save and faced Todd Helton with the bases loaded and two outs in the ninth. Enter Downs, who retired Helton and pitched a scoreless 10th to get the win after Andrelton Simmons' walk-off triple.

Beach earned an F, and that may force the Braves to look about acquiring a starting pitcher before Wednesday's trade deadline.

Downs delivered an A in the clutch, so the Braves have to feel better about their bullpen this morning.

So it goes.

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Best beer drinkers

The Beer Institute released its list of the top five states for beer consumption per capita of residents 21 and over. The top five is North Dakota, New Hampshire, Montana, South Dakota and Wisconsin. North Dakota residents 21 and older consumed an average of 45.8 gallons of beer last year. We have a few things here:

• Quick math (128 ounces per gallon, 52 weeks per year, etc.) works to show North Dakota adults are averaging more than nine beers a week. Stay thirsty North Dakota.

• We did not attend the Beer Institute, but we feel certain we have earned an honorary degree. We will not debate this.

• The top five list tells us at least subtly that people who are cold like to drink beer.

• Since Tennessee did not make the top five, we feel Todd962 needs to pick up his end of the deal a little bit. C'mon Todd, your state needs you.

• Since we're all about ranking the best today, we'll tell you the best beer we have ever tasted was during a trip to Montana with the Mrs. last summer. It's called Beltian White, and when it goes national, well, enjoy. (That said, those of you who know the 5-at-10, know we're very loyal by nature. Bud Lights. Titliest golf balls. The Mrs. 5-at-10. Copenhagen [before we quit cold turkey several years ago]. And that's the end of our story.)

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Pondering the Tennessee Vols

Our UT beat ace Downtown Patrick Brown breaks down the five questions facing the UT Vols as Butch Jones and Co. prepare to open their first practice this week. Read it here.

We are planning on Downtown spending some time on Press Row today on ESPN Radio. Give us a listen on 105.1 from 1-3 p.m.

Downtown's questions are clear and accurate.

There is one more that weighs on horizon as well. How does this team — and the fan base — react when the bad times come. Right now, Butch and all his sun dances are rosy and warm and fun. There are smiles and hugs and high-fives.

When Oregon hangs 40 — in the first half? — how do the Vols react?

That answer will tell us as much about Butch and his staff as all the star-spangled recruits they are lining up for the 2014 recruiting cycle.

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This and that

— The recent Emmy nominations honored one of the great shows in recent memory. Breaking Bad is money. If you have not watched this, you need to start from the beginning and if you have the time and the means, we highly recommend it.

The nominations also gave Julia Louis-Dreyfus her 14th Emmy nomination, the most ever for an actress, passing Lucille Ball.

Is the lady we know as Elaine Benes the best comedy actress in TV history?

— The Jim Tressel era at THE Ohio State continues to take dents. News came out yesterday from Oakland Raiders camp that back-up quarterback Terrelle Pryor admitted he never knew how to throw a football until this offseason. Uh, Coach Tressel, what were you guys doing from 4-6 during fall afternoons? Knitting?

— Jason Giambi hit a pinch-hit, walk-off homer Monday night. At 42, he becomes the oldest player to do that, passing Hank Aaron. Any time you pass Hank Aaron, well, that's a good thing.

— We're weighing the best, so let's try to rank David Ortiz' dugout explosion on the bullpen phone last weekend. We're all in agreement that George Brett racing from the dugout after the pine tar homer was the best baseball outburst, right? From there, where does Big Papi's Big Tantrum rank?

— Baseball is bound and determined to make A-Rod go away. We don't care, just do something. Regardless of what happens now, A-Rod's a joke.

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Today's question

Hey, we've had an impromptu "Best of..." run today.

So let's finish the drill with a new 5-at-10 feature, "Answered and Asked."

We'll toss out a "Best of..." question and everyone is welcomed to toss out their answer. Then you follow it with asking a "Best of..." question. Deal? Deal.

We'll start here:

"The Best college football atmosphere?"

Discuss.

about Jay Greeson...

Jay was named the Sports Editor of the Times Free Press in 2003 and started with the newspaper in May 2002 as the Deputy Sports Editor. He was born and raised in Smyrna, Ga., and graduated from Auburn University before starting his newspaper career in 1997 with the Newnan (Ga.) Times Herald. Stops in Clayton and Henry counties in Georgia and two years as the Sports Editor of the Marietta (Ga.) Daily Journal preceded Jay’s ...

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jomo11 said...

Jay- I guess with all these star-spangled commits that Butch Jones is getting recently, there probably is not to many $100 bills left in Knoxville . . . .

July 30, 2013 at 10:11 a.m.
jgreeson said...

Jomo —

Be nice. It's not like Dee Liner is a UT recruit.

Anyone else see the story about Dee Liner — an all-time name by the way for a four-star defensive lineman — and his wad of cash on the social media?

Good times.

July 30, 2013 at 10:34 a.m.
Stewwie said...

Welcome to Chattanooga, King Obama. I'm still waiting for you to come pay my mortgage.

Best college football atmosphere...hmmm...could go a lot of different directions with this...an actual stadium, a local pub, or even your own man cave with a couple of TVs and all the right food and snacks. I'm not really a Vols fan, but I have to admit that Neyland Stadium is a great place to watch college football. The band, the crowd, the traditions...it's pretty neat.

What is the best pregame/tailgating food to cook up and eat?

July 30, 2013 at 10:35 a.m.
Walden said...

I'm a Vol fan Jay, but Athens, GA is tough to beat on game day Saturday.

July 30, 2013 at 10:43 a.m.
jgreeson said...

From friend of the show StuckinKent —

Apparently, THE Ohio State University likes to hire coaches that don't teach quarterbacks how to throw a football. I mean, Tim Tebow still doesn't know how. You could probably make a case that Alex Smith doesn't know how. Now it comes out that Pryor didn't know how. It appears Troy Smith didn't know how. If Tressel and Meyer are such terrible quarterback coaches, how do their quarterbacks keep on getting drafted into the NFL? Why does the combine not chew these guys up and spit them out? I think Pryor may be overstating his case just a tad....

July 30, 2013 at 11:23 a.m.
JonathanMCook said...

"The nominations also gave Julia Louis-Dreyfus her 14th Emmy nomination, the most ever for an actress, passing Lucille Ball."

Whether or not she's the most talented is something of a mute point. With her, I think perserverance is the key and it's starting to pay off in aces.

Many years ago, I was watching a Saturday Night Live documentary and believe it or not JLD was a cast member for I believe just one or two years. But she never really had any chemestry with the other cast members and a lot of the sketches she was written for fell flat (this was early to mid 80s during the first "dark age" of the show post-original cast and three to four years before the "second golden age cast" was formed [i.e. Dana Carvey, Phil Hartmen, John Louviz, Mike Myers, Julia Sweeney, etc.]). People now watch that stuff and think "OMG! You had "Elaine" as a cast member?" The "magic" of her character would not come for MANY years later. Today, I do see JLD in the same perverbal hall of fame with the likes of Lucille Ball, Carol Bernette, and a few others. But it definitely was not overnight. And finally, it can't go without saying her work on "Veep" in my opinion has all but broken the afromentioned "Seifeld" curse (at least for her).

July 30, 2013 at 11:37 a.m.
chas9 said...

I'm guessing that during Jay's six years at AU, Alabama was among the top five suds swilling states.

One week ago, boxer Emile Griffith died. If the 5@10 marked his passing, I missed it. Of course, among this forum's regulars only fec, Spy and I are old enough to remember his heyday.

He was world champ in three different weight divisions. But he's mostly known for killing Benny Paret in a championship fight in 1962, after which ABC stopped televising boxing.

Various pundits blamed the referee or the fighters' managers for not stopping the bout earlier. Griffith continued pounding Paret after he was unconscious and propped up by the ropes.

In a famous essay titled "Who Kiled Benny Paret?" Norman Cousins blamed the public's bloodlust for the death.

Some believe Griffith was particularly vicious because Paret had taunted him with an anti-gay slur. In 1962 a top-drawer athlete couldn't admit to anything less than full-blown heterosexuality.

In an SI interview Griffith said he liked both men and women. He was brutally beaten in later years after leaving a gay bar.

He was never as tough a pugilist after the fateful fight and he said that Paret's ghost haunted him for 40 years afterward.

Griffith himself suffered boxing-induced dementia in his last years.

As Cousins' essay says, " the human fist delivers enough impact, when directed against the head, to produce a massive hemorrhage in the brain. The human brain is the most delicate and complex mechanism in all creation. It has a lacework of millions of highly fragile nerve connections. Nature attempts to protect this exquisitely intricate machinery by encasing it in a hard shell. Fortunately, the shell is thick enough to withstand a great deal of pounding. Nature, however, can protect man against everything except man himself. Not every blow to the head will kill a man—but there is always the risk of concussion and damage to the brain. A prize fighter may be able to survive even repeated brain concussions and go on fighting, but the damage to his brain may be permanent."

Same's true of football concussions.

July 30, 2013 at 11:43 a.m.
Stewwie said...

In college, you can get by with having a QB who can't throw the football. Either he makes up for it with some crazy-good athleticism (Vince Young) or he has enough talent everywhere else on offense that his shortcomings don't matter (Ken Dorsey).

But in the NFL, if you can't make throws from the pocket, you won't ever become great. You'll be lucky if you even make it at all.

July 30, 2013 at 11:47 a.m.
JonathanMCook said...

Best major league ballclub: Ranger stadium. I know, major shocker. I do want to at least experience old Wrigley Field before it goes bye-bye as they are predictiing. But every game at Ranger stadium is almost a town event. Even the weekday games.

July 30, 2013 at 11:54 a.m.
jgreeson said...

Great stuff today gang.

And we got a spot-on rebuttal from Stuck we'll post in a minute.

JMC —

Well-played on JLD. She was there when Robert Downey Jr and Anthony Michael Hall tried to kill the franchise.

Not good times.

9er —

Thanks for the perspective.

And we carried our end of the bargain and then some in the beer rankings. We may not have been the No. 1 overall pick in the beer drinkers draft, but we were invited to the green room.

Stewwie —

Best food to bring? Bar-B-Q. And Stew of course.

Best to grill? We prefer to stay simple with hamburgers and hot dogs to try to get by without knives and such.

UT is pretty sweet. South Carolina's underrated. Our worst? Florida.

(Of course our fav is Auburn, but so it goes.)

July 30, 2013 at 12:05 p.m.
jgreeson said...

From friend of the show StuckinKent —

Good point about Pryor not going to the combine and Tebow was projected a lot lower than a first round pick. What started off as a comment on how Ohio State had a coach now that is known for not coaching quarterbacks to throw a football correctly and Pryor is referring to a different head coach (which I thought was funny and ironic) turned into me thinking that Pryor was overstating his case. I changed my mind from the time I started typing the e-mail to the time I finished. I think both things are true- Tressel and Meyer are not particularly good at teaching the mechanics of being a quarterback, but both are good at getting their quarterbacks to "do their thing" and put them in situations where they can be successful. There's something to be said for that. Two Heismans (Troy Smith and Tebow), a number one draft pick (Alex Smith) and Pryor are proof of that. (Not to mention three national championships, and two losses in the national championship game, and two other undefeated seasons.) Very different offenses and offensive mindsets.

July 30, 2013 at 12:07 p.m.
Buschleague said...

5--Royals manager Hal Mcrea went postal in a clubhouse interview that was downright scary. Epic top 5 meltdown. Great atmosphere for college ball-Michigan! Early in Brady's career he was asked about playoff crowd noise and replied "I played at Michigan man, 100,000 plus every time I think I can handle this". Yep. Been that way for years. Wrigley is an adult frat party that's hard to beat too!

July 30, 2013 at 12:57 p.m.
JonathanMCook said...

I "vaguely" remember Anthony Michael Hall as a cast member on the account I still pretty young at the time. My first "exposure" of SNL was when Eddie Murphy was a cast member. Especially when he did Mr. Robinson and Gumby (3rd-5th grade) more or less. RDJ I had NO memory of. My RDJ exposure would come at 6th grade at the old Litchfeld on Northgate Crossing when he played the best friend/roommate of the kid playing Rodney Dangerfeld's son in "Back to School" (it was a PG-13 movie so yeahhh..easy get-in).

TODAY...highly regarded character actor who helped turn a D-list Marvel superhero into a box-office jauggernaut. Well-played Mr. Downey, well-played.

July 30, 2013 at 2:06 p.m.
GratefulDawg said...

The Beer Institute, I'm guessing one of the great party schools, really should field a football team. They could call themselves the Hogsheads. A costumed mascot, something like Kegger the Kicker, could shoot cold ones into the crowd from one of those T-shirt guns. The cheerleaders are going to be tipsy at kickoff, so by the second half there is a high probability that there will be some "Girls Gone Wild" moments on the sideline. The merchandising possibilities are endless. Talk about your great college football atmosphere. How 'bout them Hogsheads!

July 30, 2013 at 2:55 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

I thought JLD was there during the Brad Hall/Gary Kroeger days, which preceded the Robert Downey Jr./Anthony Michael Hall debacle.

July 30, 2013 at 3:32 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

From folks I have talked to, but have not experienced it yet myself, they say Michie Stadium is the best college football game atmosphere, without a doubt.

July 30, 2013 at 4:13 p.m.
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