published Saturday, June 29th, 2013

Emmer & Cooley

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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degage said...

Those four comments must have been really bad to be cut.

June 29, 2013 at 6:41 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

CBS asks "Is cursive writing dead?" Interesting timing.

June 29, 2013 at 9:22 a.m.
alprova said...

The ranks seem to be thinning more and more every day. I can remember when people were whining that Mr. Bennett didn't focus more on local issues.

Here's one that doesn't even involve politics, and in nine hours, only one response?

As someone who has a family, some of whom are in law enforcement, I'm personally going to be disappointed if Emmer and Cooley are reinstated.

They absolutely crossed the line that night.

Don't get me wrong. Being a cop is a tough job. Every time one is called to intervene when someone is acting out, lots can go wrong, but it is imperative that they handle each and every person as an individual and do a little assessment of the situation before they start throwing people to the ground and beating them.

Adam Tatum, 37, had two black eyes, a broken nose, his legs were broken in eight places. Tatum was struck 44 times with one of those batons.

Adam Tatum, in the video, essentially laid on the ground while being beaten, begging for his life.

Cooley punched Tatum in the FACE 11 times. He testified that no one had ever told him that punches to a face were prohibited. He stated that he and other officers had punched arrestees before and no one had ever been disciplined by the Department.

Adam Tatum is not a model citizen and the police were not called for no reason that night. Tatum didn't want to go to jail and he definitely resisted arrest, or detention as it was, until things could be sorted out, but nothing I saw on that video gave me any reason to support what those two officers did to the man.

LEO's have to be able to determine quickly when arriving on a scene, the threat level someone presents to them. Adam Tatum might have been on cocaine, and he had displayed some violence prior to the arrival of those two officers, but he offered no violence toward either one of the two officers before they attempted to take him into custody.

I can appreciate the fact that these two young officers desire to have their jobs reinstated, and understand the fact that the two were young and without very many years on the job, but they had to know that they both went overboard in what they did.

They seem to be more suited to become bouncers at a nightclub, than officers of the law.

June 29, 2013 at 9:46 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

All one has to do to see how out of line these two rouge cops are is to watch the video

June 29, 2013 at 9:48 a.m.
alprova said...

PT wrote: "CBS asks "Is cursive writing dead?" Interesting timing."

Think about it Jack. When was the last time you wrote anything in cursive. It's been quite awhile for me, myself.

I print when I write notes, and with the exception of signing my name on documents and greeting cards, I do very little these days in cursive.

Kids these days are being trained to do their school work on computers.

Cursive is indeed dying.

June 29, 2013 at 9:51 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

Not a burning issue, Alpo. Should not have brought it up. (my cursive would have been banned years ago)

June 29, 2013 at 9:55 a.m.

The only reason the media brought up cursive was to fan the racial flames, that's it. If the witness were white, then it wouldn't be a topic.

June 29, 2013 at 10:35 a.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

It should be a requirement that police candidates IQ must exceed their shoe size.

How did these two brutes get on the police department? That's a question that deserves investigation.

June 29, 2013 at 10:43 a.m.
cheezy123 said...

The officers in my opinion did use "excessive force". It would seem that Emmer, after hitting Tatum after oh about the 20th time with the baton would figure that this is not an effective way to place this guy into custody and that it may be time to reevaluate the situation. From watching the video, officers Emmer and Smith were ALOT bigger than Tatum. I believe "coked up" or not those two officers should have been able to get him on the ground and had cuffs slapped on him, long before even Cooley arrived on scene for his piece of the action.

I don't believe what Cooley said about he and other officer's were going around punching people in the face like it's a common practice, that is absurd! The same way that he said that he never knew that head blows could be deadly force, let's not forget about that 100 he made on a test where that was specifically outlined.

As for Tatum, a career criminal, convicted armed robber, drug abuser and a well documented low life himself. He will receive compensation for being mistreated and hurt. Can all the innocent people that he has wreaked havoc on receive a cash settlement as well? I know if I were one of his victims as soon as he gets paid I would be suing his butt for the distress he had put me through. Only seems fair to me.

June 29, 2013 at 10:46 a.m.
jesse said...

Its obvious that most posters on here have NEVER been around someone strung out on drugs to the point they are incoherent, violent and beyond pain!

Not saying what went down was justified ,I wasn't there,BUT since the FEDS found no cause to prosecute kinda makes me wonder!

June 29, 2013 at 10:55 a.m.
cheezy123 said...

Haha Jesse, I guess you're a regular around the coked up fiends huh? Also in the video he did not throw a single blow at the officers, now he did try to run but did not get very far. As for the pain he clearly said that his leg was broke and begged for emmer to stop. Incoherent and just not wanting to obey a lawful order are two separate things.

June 29, 2013 at 11:10 a.m.
alprova said...

jesse wrote: "Its obvious that most posters on here have NEVER been around someone strung out on drugs to the point they are incoherent, violent and beyond pain!"

Adam Tatum may have been high and in an altered state, but he did not appear to be incoherent and beyond pain.

"Not saying what went down was justified ,I wasn't there,BUT since the FEDS found no cause to prosecute kinda makes me wonder!"

I don't believe that what the two officers did deserves either one of them being imprisoned for it, but I do agree that they should have been fired and those firings deserve to remain permanent.

June 29, 2013 at 11:13 a.m.
cheezy123 said...

Law enforcement days are over.

June 29, 2013 at 11:17 a.m.
jesse said...

HAHA CHEEZY, 12 years as a street cop does give me some creds on the subject!

In 71 or 72 we answerd a disorder call at the E.R at Erlanger ,when we got there the place was ashambles and the guy was beating up on the doc's and nurses! My partner and i fought w/ him till he collapsed and passed out! (Had a heart attack) Found out later he was Ex army spec.forces just back from nam and was full of cocain and PCP!A weeks later he was dead,heart just gave up!

June 29, 2013 at 11:31 a.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

How often are law enforcement officers drug tested, particularly for steroids?

Watch the video. These two ex-police officers are bulked but breathless, unable to subdue a much smaller man who exhibited no signs of PCP induced "super strength", a suspect who offered no physical resistance except to attempt to ward off blows as is natural when you're being beaten, and the crowd of police onlookers who did not attempt to stop the beating.

More than just an indictment of these two officers, it's an indictment of the police force, its leadership, and the DA's office who support such brutality.

In addition, there have been at least three separate incidents in the past two months where police officers have fired at suspects without hitting them. Those bullets went somewhere. Luckily, no civilians were hit. I'm tempted to make comparisons with the ineptitude of the Keystone Cops, but these continued episodes aren't funny.

In the past I was against Civilian Police Review Boards. Now a CPRB should be mandatory with both the CPD and HCSO.

Police powers are too great to be only in the hands of the police protection racket.

As there is a Commander-in-Chief of the military who is not in the military, so should a non-police officer be in charge of law enforcement.

Otherwise you get what is current and fast becoming the norm in Chattanooga and Hamilton County — a military style of stormtroopers who only answer to their fellow cronies.

Remember to video all encounters with law enforcement. Without the video tape of this particular case of abuse, it would have been swept under the blue rug.

June 29, 2013 at 11:38 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

zablee: Exactly

PT didn't follow Adam Tatum deal, ergo will pass on this one.

June 29, 2013 at 11:47 a.m.
jesse said...

Darwin makes a good point about the steroids!

Some of them look and move like hairless gorillas!

In 92 i went to a friends funeral and the swat team was the honor guard and they looked like nazi's! Shaved heads,black jump suits blowsed into jump boots packing sub machine guns!! I thought "Man things sure have changer in 15 years!!"

June 29, 2013 at 12:10 p.m.
RShultz210 said...

Those two fascist jackboots should NEVER work again, and, in fact, they should both be doing 11/29 in Silverdale stabbing trash every weekend for aggravated assault, because that's the crime they committed. Not only that, but here's some news for the good citizens of the State of Tennessee, and this is the part they'll probably cut this comment for. You don't HAVE to just TAKE a beating like that from one of those thugs. I quote from Tennessee Code Annotated T.C.A. § 39-11-611(2)(e). "The threat or use of force against another is not justified to resist a halt at a roadblock, arrest, search, or stop and frisk that the person knows is being made by a law enforcement officer, UNLESS: (my emphasis) 1. The law enforcement officer uses or attempts to use greater force than necessary to make the arrest, search, stop and frisk, or halt; and 2. The person reasonably believes that the force is immediately necessary to protect against the law enforcement officer’s use or attempted use of greater force than necessary. What this means is you CAN defend yourself and not go to jail for it if you can prove that the cops have gone way too far or you sincerely believe they're about to. And you can use whatever force necessary to do so. You can legally carry a high-voltage stun gun without having to have a permit and they work on cops just well as a TASER works on you and you can throw his gun a good 40-50 feet and be gone before he gets his bearings. The reason for tossing his gun is that he has to maintain control of it and so he's got to chase it down immediately and that buys you time. Of course all of this assumes that you have some really good evidence to support your contention that they have gone too far or are about to. Something like video of them pointing a gun at you for no good reason, or of them just walking up and starting to beat on you for no good reason. Two or three reliable witnesses, who you are unacquainted with personally, but who are willing to testify in your behalf would be absolutely dandy. I carry a stun gun and a camcorder everywhere I go just so I can help a citizen who is being tortured by the Gestapo whom the government is graciously pleased to call law enforcement officers. The essential items are: pen and paper, cell phone w/built in videocam(although separate camcorders are better quality and you can use the phone and keep filming),stun gun and/or pepper spray. If you have or can afford one, a digital voice recorder comes in handy too. A NOTE ON VIDEOING POLICE: They won't like it and they will try to intimidate you into stopping, but as long as you are not in a place where you could be construed as interfering you should keep filming. The cops legally have no expectation of privacy in a public place, and as far as I know it's NOT illegal to photograph them. If it were, the whole photographic staff of this paper would be in jail. Good day and good luck.

June 29, 2013 at 12:28 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Over the years I've seen tremendous improvement in the calibre of cops. Are there still turds in the punchbowl? absolutely.

June 29, 2013 at 1:08 p.m.
volsam said...

I don't usually agree with Bennett's cartoons but he got this one right. The Chattanooga police have been strong arming the public as long as I cam remember. I grew up with Bobby Dodd and he is a very good person and I believe if anybody can change the attitude of the dept. it is him, but it will take a long time.It is getting better though.

June 29, 2013 at 1:26 p.m.
jesse said...

RShultz210!!

There is NEVER any force used to place you under arrest!

When an officer states to you"you are under arrest"right then it's a done deal! Then they can use what ever force is necessary to take you into custody!Usually how much force is needed is in the hands of the arrestee!Totaly up to him!

June 29, 2013 at 1:28 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

RShultz210 said...

Not only that, but here's some news for the good citizens of the State of Tennessee, and this is the part they'll probably cut this comment for. You don't HAVE to just TAKE a beating like that from one of those thugs.

What this means is you CAN defend yourself and not go to jail for it if you can prove that the cops have gone way too far or you sincerely believe they're about to. And you can use whatever force necessary to do so. You can legally carry a high-voltage stun gun without having to have a permit and they work on cops just well as a TASER works on you and you can throw his gun a good 40-50 feet and be gone before he gets his bearings.

I carry a stun gun and a camcorder everywhere I go just so I can help a citizen who is being tortured by the Gestapo whom the government is graciously pleased to call law enforcement officers. The essential items are: pen and paper, cell phone w/built in videocam(although separate camcorders are better quality and you can use the phone and keep filming),stun gun and/or pepper spray. If you have or can afford one, a digital voice recorder comes in handy too.


Are you for real or are you just playing out a fantasy on the internet? I hope it is the latter because if not and with that attitude I’ll be looking for you in the obituaries. Preparing yourself for hand to hand combat with the police and actually taking it to the streets is hardly a recipe for longevity. The best policy is to avoid any non-social contact with the police unless you need emergency assistance.

BTW one word of advice ... Paragraphs.

June 29, 2013 at 1:30 p.m.
RShultz210 said...

Jt6gR3hM just like all the other fascists you didn't bother to re-quote the law did you? You just don't want people to know that citizens don't have to take being beaten half to death. Well let me just re-quote it FOR you lest people read only your nonsense and not my post. Tennessee Code Annotated T.C.A. § 39-11-611(2)(e). "The threat or use of force against another is not justified to resist a halt at a roadblock, arrest, search, or stop and frisk that the person knows is being made by a law enforcement officer, UNLESS: (my emphasis) 1. The law enforcement officer uses or attempts to use greater force than necessary to make the arrest, search, stop and frisk, or halt; and 2. The person reasonably believes that the force is immediately necessary to protect against the law enforcement officer’s use or attempted use of greater force than necessary. You also conveniently DIDN'T mention that I also said you need a ton of really good evidence before you act. It's people like you who want people to be sheeple and you're just mad because I won't allow you to lie by omission or any other way. If you're going quote somebody then you at least should quote everything RELEVANT. And yes I AM for real. I DO carry a stun gun and I DO carry a camcorder. QED

June 29, 2013 at 1:41 p.m.
RShultz210 said...

And to JESSE I say, hogwash! There are rules against excessive force even during an arrest, and you know damned well there are.

June 29, 2013 at 1:52 p.m.
jesse said...

RS210

IF you ever use that strategy when you are being arrested ,Let me know how it works out for ya!(IF you survive that is!) You pull a stun gun on a cop what he's gonna do is SHOOT YOUR ASS! I can tell that all this is a theory runnin around in your head so just hope you never git in a situation where ya need to try it out!

June 29, 2013 at 2:22 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Don't take a stun gun to a gun fight.

June 29, 2013 at 2:27 p.m.
RShultz210 said...

daytonsdarwin said...."In addition, there have been at least three separate incidents in the past two months where police officers have fired at suspects without hitting them. Those bullets went somewhere. Luckily, no civilians were hit. I'm tempted to make comparisons with the ineptitude of the Keystone Cops, but these continued episodes aren't funny." I don't usually agree with Darwin, but this time around I gotta go with him. Nice shooting there, ELMER FUDD!! And we're talking about BULLETS here now, not batons or TASERS. Every one of them should have to re-qualify pronto. And they should have to get all their rounds inside the 8 ring or not be allowed to carry until they can.

June 29, 2013 at 2:31 p.m.
RShultz210 said...

Well Jesse I'm not crazy enough to try it unless I think he's getting ready to TASER me or beat the stuffing out of me. I've been TASED(or TASERED however you say it), and I've been threatened with a beating with a wooden billy club and I hadn't even committed a crime. I'm basically sick and tired of it, and I'm 61 with heart problems and the FIRST time I was Tasered almost killed me, so I've decided that that was the last time a cop lays a hand on me without consequences. And it's also the last time I'll let a cop do that to somebody else without filming the whole shameful thing even if it gets me hurt. I'm not trying to play hero, nor am I looking for trouble, but I've been harassed by law enforcement and witnessed it happening to other innocent people my whole adult life and I just decided one day that I had had enough. Maybe you think I'm crazy. If you do, that's your right, but more and more people are doing the same thing I do, and I don't think we can ALL be wrong.

June 29, 2013 at 2:50 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

You go Shultzie!

June 29, 2013 at 2:54 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

RShultz210 said...

And yes I AM for real. I DO carry a stun gun and I DO carry a camcorder.

(You should also carry your “last will and testament” as well as you “pre-written obituary” unless you want it to say “some nut was shot by police while threatening them with force”)

I've been TASED(or TASERED however you say it), and I've been threatened with a beating with a wooden billy club and I hadn't even committed a crime. I'm basically sick and tired of it, and I'm 61 with heart problems and the FIRST time I was Tasered almost killed me, so I've decided that that was the last time a cop lays a hand on me without consequences.

(Yes you’re going to be DRT because you’ve got a terminal case of raw @^^)

June 29, 2013 at 3:03 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

PlainTruth said...

Over the years I've seen tremendous improvement in the calibre of cops.


Excellent

June 29, 2013 at 3:08 p.m.
RShultz210 said...

Jt6gR3hM I don't think I'm gonna bother to keep answering you because it's obvious for one thing that you like to pick and choose what you quote(I also said that I am not looking for trouble) and it's also obvious you're just another fascist.

June 29, 2013 at 3:15 p.m.
RShultz210 said...

I have to say, as some others have, that I'm not normally too fond of Clay Bennett, but this time he hit the nail right on the head. So much so that I lifted this one, turned it into a Jpeg, and I'm mounting it on the wall behind my computer. Congrats Mr. Bennett. You finally made me laugh out loud and it only took 6 years.

June 29, 2013 at 3:45 p.m.
jesse said...

JT , i think pt was talking about size not quality! Ya know like the caliber (cops used to be 38's now they are 50's!)

Not bad P.T.,bez gittin kinda subtle on us ain't ya??

June 29, 2013 at 4 p.m.
fairmon said...

I am sure there are some rogue officers but in my interactions with state, county and city police I have never had them act any way other than professionally and courteously. The way we act often determines the other persons behavior. I think the police should be required to video and transmit to HQ every encounter they have. It would be as much for their defense as any other purpose. If these two officers were terminated by those making such decisions they should stay terminated unless there are new facts that were not considered and causes the event to be viewed as less serious and if known in the initial investigation would have resulted in a different decision. Being responsible and accountable with failure to do so suffering consequences is the cause of many of the failures we see. It is in schools, society, the work place and most prevalent in government.

June 29, 2013 at 7:01 p.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said yesterday...

Lower taxes is welfare? That's deep...really deep.

Paying a lower rate than the percent set for the income level is by any other name still welfare. It is cleverly hidden as deductions, credits, incentives and not acknowledged as welfare but when someone gets assistance from a government or other non family source in any form for personal living expenses it is welfare. What label would you assign it? Those same people that want to keep their welfare "loop holes" rant and rave about corporations having "loop holes" and call it corporate welfare, is that hypocritical?. I am not saying welfare is not appropriate and in most cases necessary. But, why not in the interest of transparency not account for and budget it as welfare? Who said they were going to have the most transparent government ever?

June 29, 2013 at 7:13 p.m.
tifosi said...

I have given Tennessee Highway Patrol numerous occasions to come uncorked on me for my pension for speed, but I must admit they have ALWAYS behaved professionally.

But, Knox County Sheriffs department managed to throw the designated driver in jail for public drunkenness. I have been intoxicated on many occasion, but that night I had not drank a drop. I was 24 years old and right of the military. I took a future groom and a biology major about to get his master's degree for a well-deserved night on the town. Two rogue deputies asked us to step out of a private club (stupid me!). Once we were in the public parking lot, it was the discretion of the deputies. No alcohol test required. Fairly intoxicated revelers had to drive themselves back to Cookeville.

June 29, 2013 at 7:13 p.m.
klifnotes said...

PlainTruth said... Are there still turds in the punchbowl? absolutely.

It's the old turds that remain that's been advising and teaching the newer turds. The new turds had great teachers. They learned from the pros. Taught'em all they need to know (example: What to do if you overuse your Taser on a citizen: Lose it).Get rid of the old school turds, and it may take a while, but the rest will eventually come around and return to bein peace officers rather than brutes who enjoy beating up, brutalizing, and intimidating citizens. The ones who don't will most certainly leave at some point. I think Chief Dodds is the right person to clean up and clean out the dirt. Old dirt and new dirt.


PlainTruth said... Over the years I've seen tremendous improvement in the calibre of cops.

They haven't improved. They just got better at choosing their victims.

June 29, 2013 at 10:21 p.m.
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