published Saturday, March 9th, 2013

Hugo Chavez

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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Salsa said...

I wonder if they have figured out where all of his secret bank accounts are located. It would take more than one for the hundreds of millions of $ that he stole and the money he was paid by his drug dealing business partners.

March 9, 2013 at 12:39 a.m.
librul said...

... and now the neoliberal puppet show begins.

March 9, 2013 at 12:51 a.m.
nucanuck said...

Salsa, where did you get your information about Chavez or did you just make it up?

I have heard that Chavez had organizational short-comings and didn't have the best business instincts, but your accusations would make him a criminal...or you a liar. Which is it?

March 9, 2013 at 1:18 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

"9 comments"? Where are the other six besides Salsa, librul, and nucanuck?

March 9, 2013 at 2:16 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

Google "chavez corruption" and you'll find something.

March 9, 2013 at 2:27 a.m.
EaTn said...

I read that larger caskets with handle space for eight pallbearers is becoming more in demand, especially in the expanded-waist parts of this country. Hugo appeared to fit in that category.

March 9, 2013 at 5:22 a.m.
EaTn said...

Easy123 said... "Are you smarter than a Fox News viewer? How about a CNN viewer? Take our quiz to find out."

I found-out some time ago that the more narrow one's news sources the more narrow their knowledge of facts.

March 9, 2013 at 6:15 a.m.
limric said...

Easy123,

Ok super genius, here's some results:

I answered 10 of 11 questions correctly for a score of 91%.

I flubbed # 11; Obama was NOT born in the United States.
He he he, just kidding.

I got #7 wrong. I thought the US Chamber of Commerce spent money from foreign AND domestic sources supporting Republican candidates and attacking commies, socialists and the radical Kenyan/ Muslim candidate who's stated goal is to destroy America.

March 9, 2013 at 6:45 a.m.
Lr103 said...

re: ...or you a liar

nucanuck, my money is on the above. salsa should be more concerned about all those offshore accounts and stolen money her rightwingNUT leaders have stashed away in some secret account.

Chavez did more to uplift the poor in his country than many leaders before him.

March 9, 2013 at 6:54 a.m.
conservative said...

It is said a picture is worth a thousand words.

Now notice the dress of the of the people under the Socialist Chavez's rule. Do you think they were paid a living wage?

It is going to be revealing watching Liberals, Socialists and Demoncrats defend this guy.

March 9, 2013 at 6:55 a.m.
jesse said...

There's a drone on the way to your house now Limric!!!

March 9, 2013 at 7:41 a.m.
conservative said...

Chavez adopted the slogan of his Comunist buddies in Cuba "patria, socialismo o muerte"---fatherland, socialism or death.!

March 9, 2013 at 8:12 a.m.
MickeyRat said...

"Chavez adopted the slogan of his Comunist buddies in Cuba "patria, socialismo o muerte"---fatherland, socialism or death.!"

Yea so. This coming from a fairy tale reciting cyber stalker/bully.

OHHH -- the irony!

March 9, 2013 at 8:19 a.m.
conservative said...

And to think Liberals and Demoncrats here in the U.S. love Socialism :

"But as his power grew, so did the abuses. His administration expropriated thousands of acres of land and hundreds of companies, drawing fire from the business class and the traditional ruling elite. Corruption and impunity plagued his administration. Venezuela became one of the most dangerous countries in the hemisphere, beset by power outages and food shortages."

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/05/3268408/venezuelas-hugo-chavez-dead.html#storylink=cpy

March 9, 2013 at 8:37 a.m.
rick1 said...

Why do liberals always lie how aaout how great Chavez was?

The following has occurred under Chavez since being elected in 1999

Venezuela has one of the highest murder rates in the world

The sub-standard healthcare people received caused higher infant mortality

The price controls and subsidized food programs cause food shortages

Political dissidence is not tolerated (aka "free speech")

Chavez seized private businesses as he deemed fit

Chavez nationalized the largest oil producer in Venezuela only to almost destroy it

While the economy could have been booming in Venezuela, Chavez's economic policies have practically destroyed it - from Bloomberg:

Venezuela] It has one of the world’s largest fiscal deficits, highest inflation rates, worst misalignment of the exchange rate, fastest-growing debt, and one of the most precipitous drops in productive capacity—including that of the critical oil sector.

He even Think Progress say democrats shouldn't eulogize Chavez

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/03/05/1678661/why-democrats-shouldnt-eulogize-hugo-chavez/

http://www.examiner.com/article/the-american-left-leaves-out-important-facts-about-chavez-s-dictatorial-regime

March 9, 2013 at 8:39 a.m.
Pictureman said...

I was taught that we should always say something good about the dead. Good. He's dead.

March 9, 2013 at 8:42 a.m.
limric said...

jesse,

It has been said, “The first American patriot that shoots down one of these drones that comes too close to his children in his backyard will be an American hero.”

Just sayin………

March 9, 2013 at 9:08 a.m.
conservative said...

I will admit that in countries run by Socialist most people are treated equally. I am so thankful God has spared me the equality of Chavez.

March 9, 2013 at 9:11 a.m.
conservative said...

“I chew coca leaves every morning, and look at me!” Chavez

Hmm

March 9, 2013 at 9:44 a.m.
dude_abides said...

"Dear brothers and sisters, after the great Pope John Paul II, the cardinals have elected me - a simple, humble worker in the vineyard of the Lord. I quit." -Pope Benedict XVI

Hmmm...

March 9, 2013 at 9:51 a.m.
just_wondering said...

I was taught that if you don't have something good to say about someone then say nothing...Well,"...........".

March 9, 2013 at 9:58 a.m.
conservative said...

Praise for Chavez from another Socialist :

“We hope that as Venezuelans mourn the passing of President Chávez and recall his positive legacies — especially the gains made for the poor and vulnerable — the political leaders will move the country forward by building a new consensus that ensures equal opportunities for all Venezuelans to participate in every aspect of national life.” Jimmy Carter

March 9, 2013 at 10:01 a.m.
nucanuck said...

Before Chavez came to power the ruling Oligarchy was rolling in money while the rest of the country was desperately poor. Venezuela's massive oil wealth was not benefiting the country as a whole. Venezuela was a US client state like much of Latin America.

In spite of his obvious warts, Chavez changed all of that for the majority in the country. He redirected the country's wealth into schools, health care, and up-lifting the grinding poverty that should not exist in a rich country. More than that, Chavez became an inspiration to the people of other countries throughout the region. With the exception of Colombia, South America no longer wants the same relationship with the US as existed pre-Chavez.

Love him or hate him, Chavez has been a larger than life, tranformative figure for millions of people and the world isn't going back to the status quo anti.

March 9, 2013 at 10:19 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

While we may have been critical of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez here in the U.S., it’s rather obvious that a huge number of citizens in Venezuela did not share our feelings:

Tens of thousands of Venezuelans immediately took to the streets to honor the flamboyant and outspoken leader, and the mourning will continue when his body lies in state on Wednesday.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100526576

March 9, 2013 at 10:27 a.m.
conservative said...

nucanuck,

Wow! Another Socialist paradise. Are you thinking about moving to the warmer climate down there?

March 9, 2013 at 10:34 a.m.
conservative said...

Also from NPR :

"But there's a dark side to this legacy too, because Venezuela today is a country where the president controls everything. I mean all the levers of power are in his hands, corruption is rampant, and the economy is dysfunctional right now. The state is the job's provider and private industry has been in a long decline. And what some critics say is that Chavez, what he was really doing was creating a system that was designed to ensure that he stayed in power"

http://www.npr.org/2013/03/06/173597132/venezuela-mourns-late-president-hugo-chavez

March 9, 2013 at 10:37 a.m.
dude_abides said...

nucanuck said... "Venezuela was a US client state like much of Latin America."

And a corrupt one. We're lucky the entire continent isn't on the rabid Shining Path.

March 9, 2013 at 10:37 a.m.
conservative said...

nucanuck,

"Before Chavez came to power..."

Yes, and apologists for Lenin wrote - "Before Lenin came to power..."

March 9, 2013 at 11:01 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Conservative says: “Praise for Chavez from another Socialist : “We hope that. . . the political leaders will move the country forward by building a new consensus that ensures equal opportunities for all Venezuelans to participate in every aspect of national life.” Jimmy Carter

You poor paranoid thing. . . Only a Tea Party Republican Bircher would actually think that former President Jimmy Carter’s hopes that Venezuela leaders “will move the country forward by building a new consensus that ensures equal opportunities for all Venezuelans to participate in every aspect of national life” is a Socialist concept.

March 9, 2013 at 11:12 a.m.
conservative said...

mountainlaurel,

Don't edit Jimmy Carter's statement :

“We hope that as Venezuelans mourn the passing of President Chávez and recall his positive legacies — especially the gains made for the poor and vulnerable — the political leaders will move the country forward by building a new consensus that ensures equal opportunities for all Venezuelans to participate in every aspect of national life.”

Show some respect for the man.

March 9, 2013 at 11:26 a.m.
rick1 said...

nucanuck, Chavez was a brutal dictator who confiscated private property, murdered his opposition and imposed failed economic policies. How is any of this good for the poor people?

mountainlaurel, when you live under the rule of an evil dictator like Chavez who shut down newspapers that criticized him and ordered the killings of his political opponents, if is very easy to control the people and only tell them what you want them to know. Paying them money to vote for him did not hurt either.

Do you have problem with this?

http://www.hrw.org/world-report-2011/venezuela

http://www.examiner.com/article/hugo-chavez-a-brutal-socialist-leader-who-should-not-be-revered

March 9, 2013 at 11:34 a.m.
MickeyRat said...

So ah...what's beef with Carter's statement? It sounded quite statesman like.

March 9, 2013 at 11:37 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Rick1 asks: “Do you have problem with this?”

Yes, I wasn’t a fan of President Chavez for the reasons you’ve mentioned. I’m also not a fan of Mitt Romney who sought out investors for Bain Capital from those oligraphs who were tied to the Salvadoran death squads.

“In 1982, two years before Romney began raising money from the oligarchs, El Salvador's independent Human Rights Commission reported that, of the 35,000 civilians killed, "most" died at the hands of death squads. . .

When The Huffington Post asked the Romney campaign about Bain Capital accepting funds from families tied to death squads, a spokeswoman forwarded a 1999 Salt Lake Tribune article to explain the campaign's position on the matter. She declined to comment further.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/08/mitt-romney-death-squads-bain_n_1710133.html

March 9, 2013 at 12:19 p.m.
whatsthefuss said...

Any quiz that states facts from the CBO in 2010 isn't a very realistic quiz of today's facts.

And the CBO now says in the year 2013,,,,,,,

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/02/07/cbo_is_increasingly_skeptical_about_obamacare_116951.html

Read for yourselves. How could the same Congressional Budget Office be so sure of the facts in 2010 and so wrong 3 short years later? Perhaps the quiz is just another pile of BS?

limric, I am so proud of you for your brilliant achievement! Perhaps your mommie will give you a gold star to put on the refrigerator with your name on it? Your SOOOO CCCUTE!!!

March 9, 2013 at 12:28 p.m.
Easy123 said...

whatsthefuss,

"And the CBO now says in the year 2013,,,,,,,"

The CBO still says Obamacare will reduce the deficit. The quiz is still correct.

http://www.newrepublic.com/blog/plank/105327/cbo-obamacare-deficit-medicaid-expansion-cost-revenue-exchange

"Read for yourselves. How could the same Congressional Budget Office be so sure of the facts in 2010 and so wrong 3 short years later?"

Things change. It's the way of the world. However, the fact remains, Obamacare will reduce the deficit. The Republican plan to repeal it would increase the deficit.

"Perhaps the quiz is just another pile of BS?"

How? The quiz was still correct about Obamacare reducing the deficit. Would you like to find something that was actually WRONG with the quiz or are you another one of those "low information" Fox News viewers.

March 9, 2013 at 12:42 p.m.
conservative said...

CHAVEZ, ACCUSING THE CIA OF SPREADING CANCER IN LATIN AMERICA, 2011

"It would not be strange if they had developed the technology to induce cancer and nobody knew about it until now."

March 9, 2013 at 12:44 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

MickeyRat Noted Carter's statement? "It sounded quite statesman like."

Yes, I agree. Former President Carter is true statesman. Wish we had more like him.

March 9, 2013 at 12:49 p.m.
conservative said...

CHAVEZ, BEFORE ONE OF WORLD'S LONGEST SPEECHES, 9 1/2 HOURS, 2012

"I promise you that at least I will make an effort not to be so lengthy."

March 9, 2013 at 12:52 p.m.
rick1 said...

mountainlaurel, I did not know Romney was the topic of this cartoon. You say you are not a fan of Chavez but how do you feel about Chavez ordering the murders of his political opponents and shutting down newspapers that criticized him? (Taking away the right to free speech)

Do you believe he helped the poor when he enacted price controls which caused a shortage of food and prices to increase?

Do you believe he really helped the poor when he enacted National Health Care, which caused a shoratge of doctors and the sub standard care people received caused higher infant mortality rate?

Do you believe he really helped the poor when he seized private businesses as he deemed fit and when he nationalized the largest oil producer in Venezuela only to almost destroy it?

How does any of this help the poor?

March 9, 2013 at 1:20 p.m.
rick1 said...

Essy123 said "Things change. It's the way of the world. However, the fact remains, Obamacare will reduce the deficit."

False

http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/2013/03/06/yes-obamacare-going-explode-deficit

March 9, 2013 at 1:45 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JonRoss,

"easy123 you are a gullable half wit and an ahole on top of that."

Your baseless opinion has been duly noted. You're still an idiot though.

"EVERY ONE of the stories you site says that the CBO is not making a judgement on how much of a deficit Obamacare will cost us."

Are you mentally retarded? EVERY ONE of the stories I linked to says that the CBO estimates Obamacare will reduce the deficit over the long term. Learn to read.

"The question posed by the Professive half-wits to the CBO was "how much a deficit would repeal cost over a decade"."

About $100+ billion.

"so easyahoe - would you like to try again? Or will you hop away quietly with one foot up your ass ?"

Why would I need to try again, JonRosshole? You're the one with the foot in your mouth. And your head up your ass.

Try again, you dumb bastard.

March 9, 2013 at 2:36 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JonMoron,

"If you understood that easyhalfwit you would understand that all of the sites you kindly provided a link to are simply saying based on obastard projections (which are ALWAYS lies) there is no deficit."

Only in your fantasy world is any of that true. You're patently ignorant. You're truly a moron. There is no other way to put it. You are mentally and intellectually compromised. Nothing you say is factual. Nothing you says is even marginally congruent with reality.

March 9, 2013 at 2:39 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JonRoss,

"Typical Progressive/Communist/Obamist revolution."

Actually, this quote from you would be more in line with Communist/Socialist economics:

"I would suggest the $2,000,000,000 dollars be given to the poor of Venezuela to help offset the collapse of the economy brought on by Chavez."

Who would have known that JonRoss was a Socialist?

March 9, 2013 at 2:47 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JonRoss,

"Obamacare reduces the deficit over the "long term"."

Should I be more specific? 2013 to 2019.

"Without a doubt easyahole. You are a gullable dumbass."

In all seriousness, you are one of the top 3 most ignorant people that post here.

Keep trying, moron.

March 9, 2013 at 2:51 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JonMoron,

"Ones failure to understand how the CBO operates, and how CBO responses are bastardized by the obastards, makes people like easy123 amusing, to say the very least."

You're patently ignorant. You're truly a moron. There is no other way to put it. You are mentally and intellectually compromised. Nothing you say is factual. Nothing you says is even marginally congruent with reality.

You aren't amusing. You're pitiful.

March 9, 2013 at 2:55 p.m.
limric said...

Thanks for the compliment whatsthefuss. That’s a heck of a stutter you’ve got (CCCUTE). Maybe you should take something for that….like an enema.


As I am neither pro nor con Hugo Chavez, this isn’t cheering section, nor a condemnation. I do however offer this observation.

I find it amusing/infuriating that conservatives can sure call out a welfare-state program as socialist when they’re used by those dang foreigners, but turn a blind eye themselves to such programs that are socialist in nature when they’re everywhere - right in their own back yards. Truth is, conservatives love ‘free stuff’ ( government-provided education, health care, highways, parks, retirement benefits, the NWS, FAA and much more) as much as liberals do (and Chavez did), while at the same time they hypocritically go around singing to themselves, “Thank God I’m free.” Of course this also requires being free of conscience regarding the killing of thousands of people thousands of miles away protecting those “free markets.”

Not only that, but out of one corner of their mouths they love to tout that Roosevelt’s New Deal was actually a plan to save the free market system rather than abandoned it. They’ll also admit that FDR was one of the great presidents, while out of the other corner of their mouths condemn such foreign rulers as Chavez, who really did nothing more than embrace and expand FDR’s philosophy in his own country.

No, conservatives hate Chavez not only because of their own deluded philosophy, but because he refused to roll over to the U.S. corporate state and a non-investigative and compliant media told them he was bad. If Chavez made his country subservient to the control of the U.S. MIC, disaster capitalists, Wall Street vampires, and become another lap dog (and conspirator) to what our corporations, military and CIA (same difference) are doing around the world with sanctions, invasions, occupations, regime-change, support of dictators, kidnappings, wars for profit, torture, drone assassinations and U.S. intervention in everything everywhere, Republicans and especially the remnants Texas Mafia would be elbowing each other to be first in line at Chavez’s funeral to show their respects. BUT - because Chavez, like Castro, stood up to the U.S. government said ‘EF YOU’ and then openly condemned its giant empire and our conjoined corporate/warfare state, he became a pariah (like G.W. Bush is today) of both conservatives and 'our' Govt and is in fact, a target of the U.S. national-security (empire) state itself.

The reactions to his death in this forum alone provide another stunning insight into the rabid right wing mindset (low information anyone?); the primary movers of the serious economic maladies that affect us all.

March 9, 2013 at 2:57 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JonMoron,

"I believe money stolen from people should be returned to those people. Chavez stole over two billion dollars from the poor of Venezuela and his family should be forced to return that money."

Income redistribution, right? SOCIALIST!

"So easyhalfwit, what was the projected GDP growth level suggested by the obastards in their request to the CBO ?"

About 3-4% annually. Around $22.3 trillion by 2020. I've seen estimates higher and lower in different places. Your point?

"Once your highly ignorant, undereducated, slomo brain understands that you will realize that you been lied to by Obastard."

You might want to rethink that. You're terminally handicapped mentally and intellectually.

You're drowning in ignorance.

March 9, 2013 at 3:09 p.m.
limric said...

"CBO responses are bastardized by the obastards,"

"what was the projected GDP growth level suggested by the obastards in their request to the CBO?"

"The only reason Jessuts Jackson went to the Chavez funeral was because he is hoping to get a slice of that stolen $2 billion dollars."

"I believe money stolen from people should be returned to those people. Chavez stole over two billion dollars from the poor of Venezuela and his family should be forced to return that money."

How about this JonRoss.The Bush,Cheney,Rumsfeld, Rice et al families should be forced to pay back the TRILLIONS they just lost, and what they stole.

Whose delusional JonRoss? Me? I hardly think so.
You live in 'bat country'.

March 9, 2013 at 3:12 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

Well said, limric! (regarding your 2:57 post)

Chavez was by no means a saint nor was he an all-out evil villain - except in the eyes of you teabagging wing-nuts who think that anyone who has anything remotely to do with socialism is the devil incarnate. But whatever Chavez was or wasn't, you critics of all things socialistic make your usual mistake of thinking that we libs deify people like Chavez or Castro or Stalin or other socialist/communist leaders or dictators. You are so delusional and off-base in your thinking that you cannot even hear or understand what it is that we are really talking about. You keep making the ridiculous argument that all liberals want to live in some pure socialist nanny state with government in complete control, but nothing could be further from the truth. Just because we happen to think that there is a middle ground wherein the free market and a democratic government can and should co-exist does not mean that we all want to live in a socialist fantasy land, nor does it mean that we regard places like Venezuela or Cuba or the former USSR as models of socialist utopias. Anyone who thinks that either extreme of total government control or unfettered capitalism without restraint is the answer is bonkers. If you wing-nuts would just step outside of your bubble long enough to listen to what we're actually saying instead of relentlessly attacking the overblown stereotype of liberals that you have so stubbornly fixated on, well, you just might learn something and maybe we could have a real, honest-to-god discussion based on real, honest-to-god truth about the issues before us.

March 9, 2013 at 3:14 p.m.
librul said...

Jeebus - you need a chainsaw to cut through the wingnuttery on these forums.

Greg Palast has made the following offer:

"As a purgative for the crappola fed to Americans about Chavez, my foundation, The Palast Investigative Fund, is offering the film, The Assassination of Hugo Chavez, as a FREE download. Based on Palast's several meetings with Chavez, his kidnappers and his would-be assassins, filmed for BBC Television. DVDs also available."

http://www.gregpalast.com/chavezdownload/

March 9, 2013 at 3:51 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Kim Jong-un loves us after all! Snow coffee for everyone!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=df8_1362850413

March 9, 2013 at 5:28 p.m.
nucanuck said...

Chavez was no dictator. He was elected four times with large majorities and high voter turn-out. Venezualan elections have been deemed among the fairest, certainly fairer than recent elections in Ohio and Florida. Was he brutal? That pretty much depends on who is doing the assessing. Was he corrupt? He thought of himself as a man of the people and focused his entire 14 years in office in trying to lift the poor up. He spent and borrowed to achieve those goals. Odds favor him not having run off with public money...he was an idealist.

The most important thing about Chavez wasn't how well he executed his plans, it was his daring to dream big and becoming a symbol of hope for multitudes of people far beyond Venezuala's borders.

There was a time, not too many decades ago, when the US was a beacon of hope for the people of the world. I miss those times! I commend Chavez for revitalizing a similar hope in so many.

March 9, 2013 at 5:28 p.m.
rick1 said...

nucanuck, says "Was he (Chavez)brutal?" Chavez jailed critical journalists and harassed press outlets that questioned his rule. Armies of pro-Chavez street thugs intimidated, beat and sometimes killed political opponents. Sounds pretty brutal to me when you have your political opponents killed.

"He was elected four times with large majorities and high voter turn-out. Venezualan elections have been deemed among the fairest, certainly fairer than recent elections in Ohio and Florida."

Elections and referenda were rigged, and international election monitors were kicked out of the country if they tried to do their jobs too effectively.

"The most important thing about Chavez wasn't how well he executed his plans, it was his daring to dream big and becoming a symbol of hope for multitudes of people far beyond Venezuala's borders."

Chavez was a brutal dictator and destroyed Venezuela. The poor have suffered with sub standard health care, which has caused higher infant mortality. Venezuela has one of the highest murder rates in the world under Chavez, he enacted price controls and subsidized food programs which have cause food shortages and skyrocking prices.

But who cares about the people of Venezuela especially the poor nucanuck, they are just collateral damage. Beacuase as you said "The most important thing about Chavez wasn't how well he executed his plans, it was his daring to dream big and becoming a symbol of hope for multitudes of people far beyond Venezuala's borders."

Screw the people of Venezuela right nucanuck, because being a symbol of hope is far more important the actually caring about peoples lives and welfare.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/03/05/robbins-hugo-chavez-death-column/1965715/

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/05/3268749/the-plundering-legacy-of-hugo.html

March 9, 2013 at 6:12 p.m.
whatsthefuss said...

Easy,

You down low lover,, you go boy!!!

Limric, Give a colonic a try, that is unless you just love the smell of your own poo. It's 2013 man. Get with it. I know you rode the short bus and licked the windows as a kid but that doesn't give you the right to make fun of my sssstutter problem. I still think your rrrealllly are ccccoool ttthhoough.

Back to the Democratic written quiz you scored at the top of your class on and easy's comments. You can read opinions from one side and then another but the facts never lie. If you have a condition that is documented and must seek insurance from one of the exchanges set up in your state you will pay significantly more for your health care than someone who is healthy. The fact is Obama doesn't care. The cost for the Medicade expansion will cost the rest of America more. It is basic math. Stop licking the windows and think! And also remember, while wages and benefits are down, health care costs continue to climb at rates that are not affordable for many working families. I guess the key there is "WORKING FAMILIES." And don't forget the retired Americans who worked their entire lives paying for the benefit of Medicare when many Medicaid members have paid nothing and receive benefits that far exceed the Medicare participants. Now isn't that something.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/02/06/the-most-depressing-graph-in-the-new-cbo-report/

As for the dearly departed Mr. Hugo Chavez. Who he despised more than any American was the neoliberal. Now how about that? You folks happen to know any of them there neoliberals? Or do you just know them old kind of liberals?

March 9, 2013 at 6:55 p.m.
fairmon said...

The right reverent Jesse Jackson in right there to show his respect for Chavez. Wonder why? Have you ever wondered where Jesse got the money to fly all over the world and living well without working or doing anything productive? His being there may be a clue.

March 9, 2013 at 10:41 p.m.
fairmon said...

mountainlaurel said... MickeyRat Noted Carter's statement? "It sounded quite statesman like."

Yes, I agree. Former President Carter is true statesman. Wish we had more like him.

I hope you mean only that we need more statesman and he may be one. However, he may be the worst and certainly among the worst of all prior presidents. History may show the one we have now challenging him for that distinction when he is history.

March 9, 2013 at 10:48 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

I can see a party when Bennett goes someplace he is appreciated.

March 9, 2013 at 11:57 p.m.
conservative said...

I guess the loontoonist didn't like the pounding his fellow traveler was taking.

March 10, 2013 at 8:05 a.m.
chet123 said...

The MAN well dressed is one of the RICH AND GREEDY that chavez didnt give in to......

April 20, 2013 at 2:24 p.m.
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