published Monday, May 6th, 2013

5-at-10: James nearly perfect, wet racing and UTC coaching update

Hope you managed to stay dry this weekend. And if you did, thanks for reading from whatever area outside of the South from which you are reading.

Wow, now that's some rain.

From the "Talks too much" studios, wait 'til Otis sees us, he loves us.

LeBron nearly perfect

LeBron James joined rare company this weekend, winning his fourth NBA MVP award in the last five years. He was one vote shy of becoming the first unanimous MVP. More on that in a moment.

First let's talk about the elite of the elite that reside in the club that LeBron now is a member.

There are now five NBA players ever who have won four or more MVPs — Kareem (6), Russell (5), Jordan (5), Wilt (4) and James. And of the four major North America team sports, the list of players to win four MVP awards in five years is even more dignified — Bonds, Gretzky, Russell and James.

The one vote not cast for James was by Boston Globe columnist Gary Washburn, who voted for Caremlo Anthony. Washburn tried to explain his vote on Mike and Mike on ESPN Radio Monday morning, and while he may have been wrong about the choice, at least he was not one of those knuckleheads who votes to prevent history. You know the guys... yahoos who vote just to be different or vote beause "no one deserves to be unanimous" — be them MVP awards or Hall of Fame ballots. Those guys don't deserve to have a ballot in our mind — it's a ballot, not a shield for historic configuration.


Wet racing

Got to admit, the Derby is fun to watch. It may be the only horse race we watch all year, but it's a doozy.

And wow, how about that mud? So far, two signature sports events — the Derby and the Masters — were as much about surviving the conditions as handling the pressure. Adam Scott in the rain and darkness early last month on that life-changing Sunday afternoon. Orb sprinting down the back stretch in a brown soup that splashed and splattered without end.

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    Joel Rosario rides Orb during the 139th Kentucky Derby at Churchill Downs Saturday, May 4, 2013, in Louisville, Ky.
    Photo by Associated Press /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

Good stuff. Side question: Why is sports gambling illegal? That would be a cool thing to go down to the corner shop and place a wager on. (The Mrs. 5-at-10 would have won and we've been reminded of that a couple of dozen times this weekend.) This is a conversation for another day. As for the miniscule prizes and tons of entertainment that were at stake in the 5-at-10 Derby contest, congrats to Thinker, who followed up his second-place Masters showing with a Derby win. Thinker was one of the handful of folks who had Orb to win (yes, the Mrs. 5-at-10 did have Orb, too, hmmm, first we're hearing of that). No one had a perfect sheet — Falling Sky fell to last — and Thinker had Frac Daddy as his last-place pick. Frac Daddy finished 16th of the 19 horses that raced.

On Sunday, the slick conditions and rain caused more than a three-hour delay at Talladega, and the controversial end of the race on the wet track as race officials were trying to beat the darkness made for some interesting comments, especially for some of the, let's call them passionate, drivers.

From Ryan Newman after his day was ended with a looked-worse-than-it-turned-out-to-be wreck late Sunday afternoon: "They can build safer race cars, they can build safer walls. But they can't get their heads out of their (expletive) far enough to keep them on the race track, and that's pretty disappointing. I wanted to make sure I get that point across. Y'all can figure out who 'they' is. That's no way to end a race. That's just poor judgment in restarting the race, poor judgment. I mean, you got what you wanted, but poor judgment and running in the dark and running in the rain. That's it, thank you."

So you're saying they moved out.

As for on the track, the results were just as eye-popping as David Ragan got a late push from David Gilliland to speed by three of the sports studs for the win. Heck, scanning the top 10 from Sunday's race at Talladega was like looking at who was in your homeroom in school — "Yeah, I know him and her and him; who's that?; what, thought that kid left town."

After the relatively unknown Davids, there was a Michael Waltrip (fourth) sighting, a Regan Smith appearance (he finished sixth meaning this was the best weekend to be a Ragan/Regan since 1986), a Scott Speed (ninth) cameo and we even got to hear the intro music for ol' Double A, Aric Almirola (sorry, OG, if you thought Arn Anderson had entered the building). The other names — Carl Edwards (third), Jimmie Johnson (fifth), Matt Kenseth (seventh) — are a little more familiar.


UTC openings

We were fully prepared to break down the UTC basketball openings here this morning.

Of course, we could eliminate the fuss and muss by linking our ace columnist Mark Wiedmer's excellent column from Sunday's paper.

Weeds did some digging and offered up five names that appear to be the finalists for the men's gig, and a few others for the women's job.

From Weeds' column — the five names are Alabama assistant John Brannen, former Georgia head coach Dennis Felton, Miami (Fla.) assistant Eric Konkol, Michigan State associate head coach Dwayne Stephens and Virginia Commonwealth assistant Will Wade.

Each has a pretty impressive resume. We also agree with Weeds that this will happen sooner rather than later, especially with the Porky's Open — UTC's primary fund-raising golf tournament — scheduled for Tuesday.

Side note: For the second consecutive week we are planning on swinging by the UTC Quarterback Club, at least for a chance to meet speaker and new AD David Blackburn. Congrats to Doug Dyer and the folks at the QB Club for finishing the year with a nice run of speakers. Last week, Vandy coach James Franklin brought a big crowd. We expect another good-sized showing today. (And yes, you can get tickets at the door of the Stadium Club at Finley, and the lunch is pretty good, too.)


This and that

— This hit the wires late last week, but we just saw it. According to data from Capital IQ, the business folks at ranked the most-profitable products as follows: 1) iPhone, 2) Marlboro smokes; 3) Monster Energy drink; 4) Coke; 5) Enfamil baby formula; 6) Folgers. More amazingly, did you know there were more than 125 million iPhone's sold last year? Sweet buckets of Apple sauce. Heck, we even saw somewhere that the most popular camera in the U.S. is now the iPhone. CUH-razy.

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    In this fie photo, Tim Tebow holds his first news conference with the New York Jets on March 26, 2012, in Florham Park, N.J.
    Photo by Associated Press /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

— OK, this is silly. Tim Tebow fans are signing a petition to get President Obama to step in get the Jacksonville Jaguars to give Tebow a new gig. Calm down folks, President Obama hasn't created any jobs to this point, why would he start now. Thank you, thank you.

— Did you see that Miley Cyrus is No. 1 on the Maxim Hot 100 list? Huh? That's even worse than Washburn voting for Anthony over LeBron.

— Side NBA note: Wow, the hopes and dreams of a Sunday filled with Game 7s fizzled big time. All of the Friday night Game 6s ended those series. Also, the Grizz, who bounced the Clippers on Friday, really let Game 1 against the Thunder slip through their fingers Sunday. Ouch-standing.


Today's question

As with most Monday's feel free to kick around any and all topics.

Did you watch the Derby? Will you watch any more horse racing this year?

Who are you backing in the UTC coaching derby? And to be honest, according to Weeds' one of the most interesting names in the mix for the women's gig is one Tyler Summitt. Yes, that Tyler Summitt, with the most famous mom in women's basketball.

Heck, if you need to go off the sports grid, try this one: Iron Man 3 did almost $200 million this weekend at the box office. Who's the best movie Super Hero — well other than John McClane of course? And Jed Eckert from Red Dawn.

Whatcha' got?

about Jay Greeson...

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ordinaryguy said...

A few things to chime in on this morning.

Finally saw 42 this weekend...almost empty theatre, but good baseball far not the best ever, but resonably good and they did mention Robinson's Court Martial which was a might make the top ten baseball films of all time...but it is not on the Rushmore of diamond darlings...Bull Durham, Pride of the Yankees, Bang The Drum Slowly, and Pride of St. Louis...we know JG you are far too young to have seen at least two of them

Let the Lebron Lovefest begin...enough already!

My Sunday viewing always includes The Sports Reporters...but my question to the worldwide leader is where is your apology to Tim Tebow for the bashing of his religious beliefs when you apologize for Chris Broussard's statements regarding the coming out of Collins...The entire panel yesterday was so enthralled by his "heroism" it borders on insanity...according to ESPN it apparently is not PC to state your faith and belief system

Tyler Summitt????? Give me a break, the Lady Mocs deserve better than an unproven assistant who happens to have an iconic last name...the clorox orange fans (Dr. B) are jumping all over this leading everyone to believe it is a done deal, similar to his wondering if Frank Reed has lost control of the Lady Mocs softball program...

Great story by Doogie on the pathetic track and field facilities in Hamilton County

May 6, 2013 at 10:41 a.m.
mrspud said...

Watched the derby, didn't cost nothin. Will pay attention to Preakness just to see if Orb wins. If he doesn't, my horse race viewing is done for the year.

Agree completely with ordinaryguy on Summitt. It's a mistake to even consider him.

May 6, 2013 at 11:01 a.m.
jgreeson said...

OG —

We've seen the Pride of the Yankees and Bang the Drum Slowly. Know almost every word to Bull Durham. Not familiar with the Pride of St. Louis....

But to have a baseball movie Rushmore without The Natural is a risky move for sure.

Fair question about Tebow, too.

And yes, Hargis' story on the Central track was well-reported and written.

Mr. Spud —

We can see the questions about young Mr. Summitt for sure. That said, it's surely an interesting name in the debate for sure.

— 5-at-10

May 6, 2013 at 11:25 a.m.
jgreeson said...

From friend of the show StuckinKent —

Wade or Stephens are my picks for the Mocs gig. Wade brings an exciting style, but I'm a little nervous, since he's so young and inexperienced. Stephens isn't quite as exciting from a style of play standpoint, but he has been beside Izzo forever. That means he's good in my book. Felton and Brannen would be solid too. Konkol is my least favorite, but it would hardly be a disaster to get him....

Yes, I'll watch more horse racing this year. I'll watch the Preakness and the Belmont. It's those three that I watch annually, and that's it. Me, the wife, and kids drew names for the Derby....and my wife won with Orb too. My best finish was fifth with Mylute. Oh well.....

Braves roll on....

May 6, 2013 at 11:28 a.m.
Livn4life said...

No and No on horsing around; that's the wrong track for me but then the Kings seem to love it(the sport of kings). Tebow and President Obama teaming up; now that may be the biggest sports joke ever...Personally, I hope he gets another chance in the NFL and am not at all surprised at the Jets(who will get their due reward)leaving him hanging in the wind. It is still a stretch in my estimation for him to be an elite NFL QB. Yeah, yeah, I saw the pass against the Steelers in that playoff game. But he is a really good person deserving better than the Jets or anything the White House Bunch might do for him. I wish UTC all the best but have no idea who can help them the most. That is for some other pundits. I have to agree if Tyler Summit is hired just for his name...well we have no idea how he would work out. And by the way, if he doesn't, would his name make it harder to admit, it wasn't working? NBA playoffs, MVP; what are those? NBA...NoBodyAround maybe...When does College football return? Movies? Who can afford them in these tough economic times? VW is laying off for crying out loud!!! Be careful in the rain, it seems to just keep on coming down. CCC says "And I wonder, still I wonder, who'll stop the rain?????

May 6, 2013 at 11:29 a.m.
ordinaryguy said...

Pride of St. Louis is the story of Dizzy Dean...with particular attention paid to his start in broadcasting and the blowback from his use of the king's english...

May 6, 2013 at 11:38 a.m.
MocTastic said...

I think Will Wade is the real interesting choice here. He is the one who could be a game winning walk-off home run or a game ending strike out on three called strikes. You gamble more, but with the chance of a big payoff. The other candidates to me are more like getting a better chance of hitting a double.

May 6, 2013 at 11:56 a.m.
JonathanMCook said...

Ten Ring-

Rough weekend for me. A lot of internal drama and some health issues. However, I do since a balance in the Force and the seas appear to be calming down.

That is all I got to say about that.

On a personal note, this Friday will be my much anticipated premiere at the House of Blues Dallas for the Joker's Wild comedy show. I will email you the flyer separately.

I just now had a chance to review Weed's article. I was rather impressed by the men's selection. Was not expected to see members of the Dawg or Tide nation wanting the job but given the program's tradition, why not?

Not to turn this into unanimous vote, but I can't help but agree with OG on the Tyler Summit thing. Other than maybe the Griffeys, I have rarely, if ever, seen two generations be of equal success and talent in sports. Hiring him in order to get perhaps the Clorax Orange folks to come to more games is a little silly. That and believing he can generate the same National Championship success as Mamma Bear did.

Regarding a subject close to my heart, here is my current list:

Robert Downey Jr. - Iron Man

Christian Bale - Batman (but acknowledge respect for Michael Keaton in the first Batman but not the 2nd one)

Hugh Jackman - Wolverine (excluding X3 and X-Men Origins; these two movies do not exist. This is not open for discussion)*

*side note, I did like Kelsey Grammer's portrayal of Hank McCoy PhD (aka the Beast) but hated the movie.

Sammy J - Nick Fury

Aaron Johnson & Chloe Moretz - Kick (edit) and Hit Girl

Regarding the new Superman, looking forward to it. Same with KA2. Will see Iron Man 3 sometime this weekend (pending no more drama)

May 6, 2013 at 12:07 p.m.
MocTastic said...

Two generations be of equal success and talent? How about these also Bobby and Barry Bonds, even pre-steroids Barry was great. In basketball, Del and Steph Curry?

That being said, I am not on the Summitt band wagon either. I was expecting somebody off the UTK coaching tree, just one of the past players, not him.

Here is a question all should ask themselves...if Tyler Summitt's name was Tyler Johnson, with the same resume, but not the ancestry, would he still be on the top of your list to hire? If not, then I would recommend you not hire him.

May 6, 2013 at 12:12 p.m.
JonathanMCook said...


Good call on the Bonds. Completely slipped under my radar; sorry. Who is Del and Steph Curry? (seriously, no idea).

And good call on the comparing surname with resume. If Blackburn has ANY sense, he would remember the Ghost of Dooley Past. (and his defensive coordinator who shall not be named).

May 6, 2013 at 12:37 p.m.
MocTastic said...

Really? Steph Curry? The former Davidson player who is in the NBA starring for Golden State now? Father was Del Curry, he played in the NBA from 1986 to 2002.

May 6, 2013 at 12:44 p.m.
ordinaryguy said...

what about buddy ryan and that idiot son rex...these clorox orange fans amaze me with they lunacy...just because the kids last name is summitt they think he is a genius...give me a break...a huge distraction that the university does not need...

May 6, 2013 at 12:49 p.m.
MocTastic said...

More father sons to consider? about Archie Manning and his two sons...think both have been somewhat productive in the NFL. :)There are many more, so, JMCook, I think I would withdraw that comment!

Hockey world? Bobby and Brett Hull, Gordie and Mark Howe.

May 6, 2013 at 12:54 p.m.
jgreeson said...

Gang —

Great back forth today, and JMC thanks for fielding the Super Hero question.

As for the Summitt debate, and MocTastic's point is the most valid. But that sword goes both ways, some of you make it sound like because he's a Summitt, that's a bad thing.

And Dude you need a Del Curry could flat-out shoot the basketball. Steph may be a better all-around player, his old man was every bit as good a shooter.

May 6, 2013 at 1:09 p.m.
JonathanMCook said...


You need your own radio show. You sound like you know more than Dr. B claims to know.

Regarding Rex, we don't talk about him much down here in North Texas (He got ran out of town for a reason).

May 6, 2013 at 1:10 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

Best movie superhero ... and Chuck Norris as Lone Wolf McQuade is not in this discussion?

Sorry, 5, couldn't get to any Derby watching Saturday. Work got in the way of the Kentucky Mudbowl.

May 6, 2013 at 1:58 p.m.
JonathanMCook said...

We seem to be in different universes when it comes to Superhero movies. Most people would have read it for what it is: People within the Marvel/DC/Dark Horse* universe with special powers or abilities in the ever continuing fight of good vs. evil. John McCaine and Lone Wolf McQuade are more "action heroes": Men and women with above average combat skills and for some, intellect (see Raylan Givens on "Justified").

There is difference folks.

Back to Summit 2.0, I believe the cause for concern is the underlying fear of pedigree above experience. Everyone on this forum knows UTC (regarding both genders) is not Tennessee, Michigan, Indiana, VCU, George Mason, North Carolina, or Duke. However, it is steeped in tradition regarding success and most fans would want someone to come in with enough experience to (men): get the program OUT of Mediocreville, and (women): not lose the strong foundation the Wes Moore built for 13 years + try to take it to the next level. No one wants to see the women's program go the same route as the men's post Mac McCarthy. In order for that not to happen, they need to select someone with years of experience vs. pedigree. But this is merely opinion mind you.

*Dark Horse has one A-Lister I forgot to add to the list: Ron Pearlman - Hellboy.

May 6, 2013 at 2:40 p.m.
GratefulDawg said...

Jay, you ask a good question pertaining to the illegality of sports gambling. You can buy a lottery ticket, invest in a risky start-up, and buy insurance. However, if you lay down a little money on the Steelers to cover at home you have likely committed a crime. This would be a good question to run by Drew Johnson. I don't agree with everything Drew writes, but he is spot-on with his views of the absurdity of consensual crimes in a supposedly free society.

May 6, 2013 at 2:49 p.m.
MocTastic said...

I once asked the question, had the Lady Mocs reached their ceiling? I sorta think they have/had. I really don't expect nor demand the coach who replaces Wes Moore to surpass his achievements, but to come close would be doing a great job. To be honest, nobody has dominated men or women's basketball in the SoCon for many decades like he has. To ask somebody to be better or even repeat it is probably akin to what Gene Bartow was asked to do so many years ago at UCLA. Realistically, we can only hope that the new women's coach comes close to Coach Moore's accomplishments.

May 6, 2013 at 2:50 p.m.
Todd962 said...

This weekend was a doozy. My favorite superhero movie is going to be about my kidneys and liver. It was Star Wars Day(May the Fourth be with you), Derby Day, UTC Graduation (Lady Todd makes me call her master now), Cinco de Mayo, and something else I am sure. Too many opportunities for celebration. Mint Juleps haven't gotten any better over the course of a year and tequila is the devil. (I would be willing to open the doors for free immigration if Mexico is willing to take tequila back.) I picked Falling Sky to win at our gathering and the only horse he beat was a scratch. I'll miss those "entertainment vouchers."

I got a top five list for you, top overall action movie actors. Arnold? Stalone? Willis? Dark horse Swayze? This provided some good water cooler discussion around here.

May 6, 2013 at 2:58 p.m.
JonathanMCook said...

G-Dawg, I forgot about the sports gambling thing.

Important announcement (actually it's about a year old): You can "legally" do sports gambling in North Texas.

Lone Star Park, our local horse race track down here, does offer the ability to legally bet on sporting events. I don't know the full details but they sure were advertising the stuffing out of it all last year.


I don't think they've quite hit the ceiling as I'm hoping for a Sweet 16 run someday. I grant you whoever gets the job is probably not going to be able to recruit a Brittney whats-her-name, but I don't see the program plateauing anytime soon.

May 6, 2013 at 3 p.m.
jgreeson said...


Good luck at the Comedy thing.

GDawg —

We may have a little point-counterpoint with Drew on here about sports betting. Although you're right, it likely would be point, point, concur, concur type of thing.

MocTastic —

While the Lady Mocs have hit a level of dominance in the SoCon, there seems something wrong about comparing Wes Moore with the guy whose name sounds a lot like Wohn Jooden, no?

Todd —

Congrats to the highly educated better half.

It's amazing how some weekends turn out that way. (Would your super-hero liver wear a cape? And yes, Tequila is the devil and yes, Mint Juleps are minty in name only.)

That question is so in the mailbag.

— 5-at-10

May 6, 2013 at 3:48 p.m.
MocTastic said...

JGreeson, there was only one Wohn Jooden, but, on a much lower scale, the coach who replaces Coach Moore faces a similiar task, win 11 or so regular season titles in a row, 8 or more tournament titles, or they will be a failure in the eyes of many. A daunting take I shall say! Maybe I should have used the Dan Devine Ara Parseghian analogy?

May 6, 2013 at 4 p.m.
jgreeson said...

MocTastic —

No doubt, Wes leaves some Bozo-sized clown shoes to fill.

And here's saying that the new Lady Mocs coach is going to have some 'spaining to do if next year's team is not the class of the league.

May 6, 2013 at 4:42 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

5, I'm gonna dance on the fringe here (shut ... up) but Carmen Electra just turned 41 and she still has quite a fastball. Plus, she celebrated said birthday at, ahem, a "gentleman's club."

The Spy awaits her return phone call.

May 6, 2013 at 5:09 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

Also wondering when The Red Rocker goes on Maury Povich to hear ...

"Sammy Hagar ... you are not the father."

May 6, 2013 at 5:11 p.m.
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