published Saturday, May 11th, 2013

The Signal

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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anniebelle said...

The armed forces in this country has dropped its enlistment requirements to an all-time low and it shows in the conduct of our troops and officers. Intelligent and honorable young men and women are declining to join this killing machine we call our 'defense'. We should have never changed the name from the WAR Department.

May 11, 2013 at 5:14 a.m.
patriot1 said...

Annie says ..."The armed forces in this country has dropped its enlistment requirements to an all-time low and it shows in the conduct of our troops and officers."

To say that enlistment requirements have dropped to an all time low tells me you know nothing about that issue. Ever heard of McNamara's 100K or Progect 100K?....google it sometime and read it. Another liberal lame brain idea.

May 11, 2013 at 6:15 a.m.
dude_abides said...

Colonel Knowledge is a precursor to Martial Bliss.

May 11, 2013 at 7:21 a.m.
joneses said...

What is pathetic is one man in the military gets charged with sexual abuse and o'bastard pays more attention to it than the brave souls o'bastard left to die and be mutilated in Benghazi. O"bastard even called a basketball player who announced where he chose to put his pecker a hero and never even once called the family members of the brave murdered Benghazi servicemen to offer his condolences. Does this not tell you liberals what a POS you support? Unbelievable that you liberals continue to give o"bastard a pass. You liberals are a bunch of sick mfs.

May 11, 2013 at 7:25 a.m.
joneses said...

Everyone read annibelle's misguided post. She looks at our military as a "killing machine". She is so stupid and blind and suffers from liberal mental illness that she does not realize that the brave men and women of our military have fought and died for the rights for her to spout off stupid sh!t from her, hmmm, well I will not say it.

May 11, 2013 at 7:35 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

7:25 post flagged joneses. You are off to an early start today. Someone pee in your cornflakes?

May 11, 2013 at 7:44 a.m.
joneses said...

ike, you are such a meany weenie. What a pussy you are.

May 11, 2013 at 7:51 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

I am a weenie because I expect you to act like an adult on this forum and leave your locker room language out of it? How interesting.

May 11, 2013 at 7:52 a.m.
conservative said...

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death ; their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:13KJV

May 11, 2013 at 7:54 a.m.
joneses said...

A 17 year old “animal” named De’Marquis Elkins shot and killed an innocent 13 month old baby in a stroller and injured the mother in Brunswick, GA. (NOTE: When Mother said she didn't have any money, he turned and shot her baby in the face)

De’Marquis Elkins is not a member of the NRA

He did not use an assault rifle

He did not get his stolen pistol from a gun show

His favorite music is rap

He did not attend Christian school, nor was he home schooled

He did attend multicultural public education, and was not instructed in the Ten Commandments

His Momma was on welfare, got food stamps, and lived in public housing

His daddy was not around, and his two brothers have a different daddy

He already has a record for violent crimes

He is gang member

His mom, grandma, and Aunty all voted for Obama.

He never earned his hunter safety card, nor did he shoot CMP, Junior NRA, or 4H Air Rifle Competitions

He was never instructed in gun safety from his father or grandfather

His public education and family taught him that the white man owes him something. He went to collect it

He has no plans on getting married, but does have a “Baby Momma”, and no, he is not supporting her baby

He smokes weed

He does respect Kanye West

While he has no job, nor was he looking for one, he is well fed, and does not need a job. He has no skills outside of crime

He speaks Ebonics, and is not capable of doing a professional interview, even though he spent 11 years in public education.

He is one of millions.

When Obama breaks the economy, they are coming for you.

One more thing, the murder of this little baby received very little news coverage but when George Zimmerman shot Trevon Martin in self defense the liberals, the liberal press, o'bastard, al Sharpton and other mentally challenged liberals persecuted Mr. Zimmerman. Be prepared folks!

May 11, 2013 at 7:54 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

conservative and joneses, what do these two posts have to do with this cartoon? And joneses, given your history I am gonna guess this is a copy and paste.

May 11, 2013 at 8:01 a.m.
joneses said...

ike,

You spouting off your lies and continuing to give o"bastard a pass on his incompetence is more immature and worst than anything I have posted. All you are is a fool like the rest of the o"bastard worshiping sheep. You are nothing to me and I do not take anything you say serious. But I do appreciate you bringing attention to my post with your mindless, meaningless, immature threats. Grow up and wake up wimp! I am out of here as I have better things to do than converse with a fool who has not the balls God gave a jack rabbit.

May 11, 2013 at 8:06 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Can you demonstrate where I have given Obama "a pass" on his "incompetence"? Or are you MSU as usual?

MSU that is unless you are copying and pasting someone else's drivel.

May 11, 2013 at 8:08 a.m.
tifosi said...

Same ol' hijackers

May 11, 2013 at 8:20 a.m.
rick1 said...

Ike, you continuously tell joneses that you are flagging him yet I have never heard you say you were going to flag posts by easy. For instance how can you defend easy when he made this post: “Once again, I didn't, Thunder C U N T”

Don’t you feel the C word is totally disrespectful to women?

How can you defend easy when he has no respect at all for women?

Why don’t you call him out on this disgusting post?

How do you feel about these other posts by easy: “You give hand-jobs to homeless men.” “My father would likely say the same thing about your son's unworthiness to clean my boots and my scrotum.”

“You need to get laid. I nominate tu_quoque to rock your world. You've talked about head in the past. I heard she could suck-start a leaf blower. Hell, you don't even have to worry about doing anything with that old body. She'll f#ck you.”

If you are going to flag at least be consistent. I’m sure you did not have two sets of rules for your students when you were a teacher did you?

May 11, 2013 at 9:08 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

Observation: If the posts were limited to the partisan, repetitive toons, this forum would evaporate.

May 11, 2013 at 9:16 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Hmmmm....good point rick. But I never saw these posts. I am not necessarily here every day, and I don't participate on threads that don't interest me. If I missed these I apologize, and will try to be more vigilant.

Just so you know, I warned joneses and JR that I would flag comments that referred to the president as "bastard". (quite a while ago-last year? year before?)

May 11, 2013 at 9:18 a.m.
Easy123 said...

rick1,

It's a common tactic for WingNuts like yourself to use quotes without presenting the context in which they were written. Why haven't you included the other posts by the people I was addressing? Do you realize how far in the archives you've had to reach to obtain those quotes?

May 11, 2013 at 9:19 a.m.
rick1 said...

Ike, thank you for looking at my post with an open mind. Have a good weekend.

May 11, 2013 at 9:21 a.m.
alprova said...

Jonesie wrote: "What is pathetic is one man in the military gets charged with sexual abuse and o'bastard pays more attention to it than the brave souls o'bastard left to die and be mutilated in Benghazi."

But of course. Spout off without one ounce of knowledge to the truth. That's my boy.

"O"bastard even called a basketball player who announced where he chose to put his pecker a hero and never even once called the family members of the brave murdered Benghazi servicemen to offer his condolences."

If you had any sense, you would realize that placing a phone call to a grieving family is about the rudest thing anyone can do. The military does not even place phone calls to a family of a fallen member.

Obama spoke in person at a ceremony that was held upon the return of the remains of the victims on September 14, 2011, which is a customary act for most Presidents.

I'm wide open to proof that any President has ever picked up the phone to call the family of someone who had died for any reason.

"Does this not tell you liberals what a POS you support?"

Your ignorance and bias is astounding at times.

"Unbelievable that you liberals continue to give o"bastard a pass. You liberals are a bunch of sick mfs."

We'd be bothered by what you have to say on any given day, if it wasn't so stupid sometimes.

May 11, 2013 at 9:24 a.m.
alprova said...

Ikeithlu wrote: "Hmmmm....good point rick. But I never saw these posts. I am not necessarily here every day, and I don't participate on threads that don't interest me. If I missed these I apologize, and will try to be more vigilant."

I'm here just about every day and I don't recall seeing those posts either.

Easy gets wound up but I've never witnessed him using those words.

It would be nice if you could post links to those posts for proof Mr. Rick.

May 11, 2013 at 9:32 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

CIA just happened to make the exact cuts Obama/Hillary wanted on talking points, and IRS just happened to target Tea Party.

May 11, 2013 at 9:37 a.m.
rick1 said...

Here you go Al. Also if you look at the post easy made at 9:19am today he did not deny making these quotes.

Once again, I didn't, Thunder C U N T January 8, 2013 at 11:04 p.m. http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2013/jan/08/curtain/?opinioncartoons#comments

You give hand-jobs to homeless men. January 20, 2013 at 1:50 p.m.

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2013/jan/20/obamaphobia-cartoon-chattanooga-times-free-press/?opinioncartoons#comments

My father would likely say the same thing about your son's unworthiness to clean my boots and my scrotum.

January 20, 2013 at 2:08 p.m.

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2013/jan/20/obamaphobia-cartoon-chattanooga-times-free-press/?opinioncartoons#comments

Rebitch, You need to get laid. I nominate tu_quoque to rock your world. You've talked about head in the past. I heard she could suck-start a leaf blower. Hell, you don't even have to worry about doing anything with that old body. She'll f#ck you.

But seriously, LMFAO! January 22, 2013 at 9:52 p.m.

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2013/jan/22/inauguration-day-cartoon-chattanooga/?opinioncartoons#comments

May 11, 2013 at 9:49 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

rick, what were the other posters saying at the same time? Just curious. In a mudfight everyone gets dirty.

May 11, 2013 at 9:52 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

‘Jay Carney’s pants?’ West Wing briefly evacuated after reports of smoke

May 11, 2013 at 9:54 a.m.
alprova said...

Okay...I need to revise something. I don't know about most Presidents, but upon a closer look, Obama HAS placed phone calls to families of people who have died on occasion.

He contacted the families of the Tulsa shooting and the Newtown massacre. In the latter, his phone calls were placed after appearing in person and meeting with the families in the days following their deaths.

Phone calls have never been placed immediately following what has happened. It was always at a later point and time.

Regarding the Benghazi victims, family members came out almost immediately speaking publicly that they blame the current administration for their loved ones deaths, and thus would probably not be receptive to any phone call from the President, so why would he attempt to bother them?

They, like some of you folks, are buying into the political witch hunt and those families are being used for that purpose as well.

It's quite simple. The Republicans got to them first and convinced them of things not in evidence and their minds will be tainted forever.

It's actually quite sickening when you think about it.

May 11, 2013 at 9:55 a.m.
alprova said...

Thank you for the clarification Rick. I truly missed those posts. I find them rather objectionable as well, but as I recall, Ms. thing from up north was quite crude in her posts, which got her banned for a period of time.

I probably ignored those exchanges as I tend to do when things go overboard.

May 11, 2013 at 9:58 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

Here's what's quite sickening. Hil & B.O. hugging victims loved ones and telling them a video was the culprit. Now that's base.

May 11, 2013 at 10:03 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

The more I read about Benghazi, the more I realize that the Obama administration may be between a rock and a hard place. The Benghazi compound was run primarily by CIA, not the state dept, and the CIA in the time immediately after the attack was trying to orchestrate what was said to prevent revealing or exposing the operatives, missions and contacts there. (Most of the people at that "consulate" were CIA.) As a result, what was released looked like a memo that had been cut apart, pasted or re-written. The State Department will never be able to fully clear the air because it puts CIA operations at risk, so they will always look like they are hiding something (which in effect IS what they are doing)

The reason this is so appealing to the GOP is that they can use this as a) a distraction away from the economic issues that they seem unable or unwilling to make progress on; b) undermine Clinton's credibility as a candidate in 2016; and c) continue their goal of tarnishing this administration any way they can, which THEY have publicly stated was their intention.

It is brilliant. The CIA will not defend Clinton enough to satisfy conservatives. They can't without compromising what they are doing in Libya. Therefore, if the GOP keeps badgering the administration and being selective about the points they make, the damage will be done. It just reinforces in my mind the dishonesty of the GOP, but their minions won't see that at all. It is all politics. The tragedy of that day may be someone's fault, but it isn't the fault of the State Department or the Obama Administration. To protect the covert operations there and elsewhere, Clinton may be the one to take the fall.

May 11, 2013 at 10:07 a.m.
rick1 said...

Al, you're welcome. I understand it is easy to miss posts and both sides including myself have been guilty of posting inappropriate comments in the past.

May 11, 2013 at 10:11 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

The practitioners of the dark art of news management would say, "when in the midst of scandal -- anything that diverts attention is a win." -Brian Wilson. Nah, it was just fortuitous that IRS story was released on Fri. afternoon

May 11, 2013 at 10:37 a.m.
jesse said...

Al, you prob. ignored those post because it was easy making them!

Lump Easy, jonses,conman and jon ross and maybe 2 or three more togeather and you got bag full of hate!

Well done Rick and it looks like you didn't have to go too far back to find them either!!

May 11, 2013 at 10:53 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

"I.R.S. is an independent enforcement agency," said Carney. "The -- which I believe, as I understand it, contains only two political appointees within it. The individual who is running the I.R.S. at the time was actually an appointee from the previous administration." 🐦 you can't make this guano up, folks.

May 11, 2013 at 10:57 a.m.
tifosi said...

Note to joneses:

Every time you denigrate President Obama, you spit in the face of America and the U.S. Constitution that elected him. You obviously have no respect for America and our democracy. You are just a whiny, sore loser with a lack of intellect to post a reasonable debate. Go home little boy.

May 11, 2013 at 11:13 a.m.
timbo said...

This is my last post on these opinion pages. All of this electronic fussing and fighting is not productive. All these posts have turned into is an insult contest.

Really no one cares what Pam Sohn thinks,

or what Drew Johnson thinks about national issues. They might have a little influence locally but their national opinions mean nothing.... And change nothing.

The same is true of all of us. We are all just bloviating, not changing any minds, and it's all about ego and a delusion of influence. Most of you hide behind made-up names in order to be as nasty as you can without anyone else knowing Who you are. It is wrong to print an opinion without a name.

This country is headed downhill at a fast pace. I'm not gonna waste anymore of my time to convince someone that is a fact.

So, Tim Price, aka timbo Is out of here.

May 11, 2013 at 11:32 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

The sudden downfall of Petraeus is starting to make sense.

May 11, 2013 at 11:35 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

I have learned a lot coming here (and I had a lot to learn) and I don't believe the country is headed down hill, except that those that so want it to be true will make it happen simply by their divisiveness and negativity.

May 11, 2013 at 11:36 a.m.
alprova said...

jesse wrote: "Al, you prob. ignored those post because it was easy making them!"

I tend to scroll down over posts when two people are in a long protracted session of throwing barbs at each other.

"Lump Easy, jonses,conman and jon ross and maybe 2 or three more togeather and you got bag full of hate!"

Yep, there's a lot of hate alright, and the ones who express it the most, believe they are totally innocent of such expressions.

"Well done Rick and it looks like you didn't have to go too far back to find them either!!"

No he didn't. I probably just scrolled on by those posts, since back then Easy and Ms. Thing were into it hot and heavy. Since there was very little substance in either one of those exchanges, I just passed on to the next post.

Apparently, the complaint against Easy is a valid one.

It does get emotional in here at times, but there's no excuse for not showing a reasonable amount of restraint when making points and there is no excuse for not refraining from posting profanity.

There are only a couple of people who have been totally clean in their posts. We all need to try to do the same.

May 11, 2013 at 11:48 a.m.
jesse said...

Ike sets an example we ALL should follow Al!

She gets a little antsy every once in a while but over all calm and reasoned!Thing is i disagree w/her a lot BUT always pay attn. to what she says.Same w/leaf amd limric!

May 11, 2013 at 12:21 p.m.
rick1 said...

Ike, what sources are you reading that lead to your post at 10:07am?

Do you really believe that Obama and Clinton have no responsibility at all with this cover up?

How do you feel about Obama and Clinton knowing this was a terrorist attack on when it happened, yet lied to the American people and to the family members of the four murdered Americans telling them this was caused by a video?

Mark Styen said it best about Obama and Hillary's actions. "They lied to the victims' coffins and then strolled over to lie to the bereaved, Hillary telling the Woods family that "we're going to have that person arrested and prosecuted that did the video." And she did. The government dispatched more firepower to arrest Nakoula Basseley Nakoula in Los Angeles than it did to protect its mission in Benghazi."

Please read the below listed links with an open mind and remember "Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official." Theodore Roosevelt.

http://online.wsj.com/article/declarations.html

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/scrubbing-the-truth-from-benghazi-20130510

May 11, 2013 at 12:28 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Thanks for the kind words, jesse

b.s. jesse, ike has the sharp tongue of Progressive thug and should be treated with all of disrespect due her.

I am rather proud of this post too, given the source. I have read and participated in a lot of forums over the past few years (I started participating in the months leading up to the Kitzmiller trial in 2005 when I was learning as much as I could about the challenges to science education) That's a lot of time, and this site has some of the meanest and most negative posters I have seen. Thankfully they are the minority. Most from both sides are thoughtful and concise.

May 11, 2013 at 2:12 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

wsj: The third paragraph raised red flags:

The Obama White House sees every event as a political event. Really, every event, even an attack on a consulate and the killing of an ambassador.

That would indicate a particular mindset going in but I read it through. Noonan seems to accept Hicks as a credible source, but some of the things I am seeing says that there may be some payback here for an unrelated disciplinary action (Hicks was supposed to be a pretty poor employee, but I'll have to read further) Noonan doesn't offer much in the way of evidence.

The second was quite good. It makes no unsubstantiated claims and does not come across like a conspiracy accusation. Interesting enough, it leaves plenty of room for exactly the situation described in the article I linked, regarding the CIA trying to control what was released.

May 11, 2013 at 2:24 p.m.
rick1 said...

Ike, in reference to the link you provided it does not explain why our military was ordered to stand down and not make a rescue attempt. It is disgusting how this administration turned their backs on the four Americans, and refused to send them help and out right lied to the victims families.

The WSJ link I provided is spot on with why there was a cover up.

Also how do you feel about the administration holding an off the record press meeting with hand picked reporters? I thought Obama said this was going to the most transparent presidency ever.

May 11, 2013 at 2:29 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

My noting the red flag served a purpose. When you are trying to get a feel for a piece or a source, you look for key words or phrases that tell you if the piece may be slanted. That was an example.

I am not excusing the administration for every mistake or "lie" (in some people's mind) I am trying to learn about the Benghazi situation. The military stand-down, as I understand it, was because they were too far away. My point is not that there wasn't a cover-up, is that the cover-up was orchestrated by the CIA for valid reasons. Blowing the cover of a CIA operation results in a loss of years of work and in the deaths of both operatives and local sources. That does not mean that Clinton won't pay a heavy political price for it. She isn't the first politician at risk for paying the political price for something that technically was not her fault. It happens all the time.

May 11, 2013 at 2:40 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Don't know a soul that is truly objective. If you lean left, you will read and absorb items seeming to mitigate the administration/Clinton. If you lean right, you will see evidence in abundance. Any way you cut the mustard, seems to me the situation was, at best, poorly handled. At worst, a cover-up. All will agree. 😛

May 11, 2013 at 2:53 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

I see that the Obama MSM and loyalists are in full spin mode. Now that the dam, of suppressed information about the incompetence and malfeasance of the Obama administration, has broke they must provide “possible if not probable” spin scenarios.

This spin about the CIA is a very appealing one for them. They can claim begrudgingly that yes all this information that is being revealed is true but you can’t really fault the administration for what they did. They had to do this to protect national security and instead of being a fault for what occurred they were in fact heroes for exposing themselves to ridicule and damage to their careers to protect the nation from our enemies. Their meme is that we all know the CIA is a rogue operation but we can’t expose their failures like Benghazi as it will aid those that wish to harm us.

Expect the MSM to give this one some wide coverage as you can see in the non-factcheck article written under the banner of “FactCheck”. A great amount of conjecture with hardly any facts to support it.

May 11, 2013 at 3:16 p.m.
rick1 said...

Ike, I find it interesting that Hicks who is a 22 year employee is being questioned as a creditable source because there are reports about prior disciplinary action. Yet he was deputy chief of mission at the U.S. Embassy in Libya and highest-ranking U.S. diplomat in the country at the time of the attack in Benghazi. If he was a poor employee as you posted why would he be in such a high position?

May 11, 2013 at 3:16 p.m.
rick1 said...

Ike, please let me know how you feel about the WH holding an off the record press meeting with hand picked reporters?

May 11, 2013 at 3:19 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Looking for list of hand-picked reporters.

May 11, 2013 at 3:38 p.m.
WHS1970 said...

This just in from Murray County, GA. James Yaughn, you are a low life, piece of crap and a coward, for shooting dogs. You are a miserable person, that needs psychological help!

May 11, 2013 at 3:42 p.m.
rick1 said...

Ike, you said "The military stand-down, as I understand it, was because they were too far away."

The problem with this statement is there was a small, armed US force in Tripoli was told it did not have the authority to deploy to Benghazi in the midst of the attack. Twice. Flight time between the two cities is less than an hour. Members of the would-be rescue contingent were "furious" over this obstruction. The witnesses said they did not know who ultimately gave the "stand down" orders, or why.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2013/05/09/the-damning-dozen-twelve-revelations-from-the-benghazi-hearings-n1591336

May 11, 2013 at 4 p.m.
jesse said...

Dude's 7:21 am post!

You gotta be one sick individual!

Do you write your name on public rest room walls??

A weenie wagger or flasher??

May 11, 2013 at 4:20 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

I don't have answers for any of those rick. I am still reading and learning. If I find something I'll get back. I am cautious because if there was something glaringly obvious it would be out already.

I hesitate to make claims about things I am not up to speed on. Call me conservative (not THAT conservative) but it is hard work sorting through the crap on both sides of the aisle. Most of what you find on the internet is so partisan, it is difficult to glean out the facts from the conjecture, conspiracy theories, and accusations. The media just report every little piece of Sh!te that comes their way, adding what they can to make it sensational. I do believe that when information is slow in coming, they fill in the gaps with whatever they can make up.

Science is so much easier, in my opinion.

May 11, 2013 at 4:26 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

For the drama lovers, we've only seen the tip of the iceberg on the IRS deal.

May 11, 2013 at 5:14 p.m.
jesse said...

I been thinkin about timbo's farewell post and maybe he has a good point!

If we all used our names and a pix of ourselves for an avatar things might get a little more polite around here!

I'm game for it,anybody else want to step up!?

WELL. somebody tell me how to change my handle??

May 11, 2013 at 5:29 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

I have considered it, jesse. But I hesitate. I was stalked here several years ago, and wonder what might have happened if the stalker knew my name. My last name is very rare, so I'd be easy to track down. Ironically, people who know me would recognize my user name. On the other hand, except when I fall to temptation, I try to post as if people DID know my name. Not sure why.

May 11, 2013 at 5:39 p.m.
shen said...

Ike, I don't blame you for hesitating to use your real name. I too suffered stalking and harassment when a member of authority once revealed my name, where I live, a description of me and the type car I drove. I'm not sure what the purpose was, other than an attempt to get someone to hurt or harm me or my family on their behalf. All the while, their hands would be clean.

I've also been told of others this has happened to. In my situaiton, I suffered having individuals drive by my house, stop and take pictures, or call out demeaning remarks. Someone somehow got hold of my unlisted phone number and at times called my home with no one on the other end, just an open phone line with what sounded like police radio transmission in the background. Spread untrue rumors to my neighbors etc. I'm not at all sure why a few are drumming for others to reveal their names, unless there are plans to somehow use it against them or hrass them either directly or indirectly. Some of these individuals are well connected with members of authority. Therefore, they know they're protected and have nothing to worry for themselves or their families by revealing their names.

May 11, 2013 at 6:19 p.m.
miraweb said...

I am fairly unimpressed about the "IRS deal". A friend who was involved in the anti-war effort about Iraq was randomly picked for review by the IRS five times during the Bush administration. They never found anything but he still had to pony up paperwork every year.

As soon as the administration changed, the scrutiny stopped.

The GOP getting excited about Tea Parties (distinctly political organizations) getting reviewed for non-profit applications (distinctly not allowed for any political organization) just doesn't get me all that worked up.

Inviting the IRS to take a look at the opposition's books may not be fair - but it is very, very Washington.

May 11, 2013 at 8:33 p.m.
carlB said...

It would please me if the IRS Checked closer on some of the so called Relegious groups.

May 11, 2013 at 8:43 p.m.
miraweb said...

I am a little puzzled at the GOP's Benghazi strategy.

Hillary Clinton has made it pretty clear she's getting tired of Washington and probably won't run. Obama, of course, has no plans to run.

So - all this intense effort just to make two people - who are very unlikely to even be in the next election - look sort of bad. It will also siphon away any potential media exposure that help the GOP connect with people who might actually vote with them.

I really kind of hope they hang with Benghazi for another year or so. It is somewhat satisfying to watch the GOP toss away its very few chances to speak to new voters.

And if they don't reach new voters - they don't win. Just math, really.

May 11, 2013 at 8:53 p.m.
carlB said...

Looks as if the military will have to start teaching the volunteers respect and sex education classes, develop standards and then test the attitude of the persons.

May 11, 2013 at 8:55 p.m.
miraweb said...

Until the military treats sexual assault with the same seriousness as mishandling a weapon or failing to report for duty, it will remain a dysfunctional organization.

The civilian world is beginning to get that harassment is a career-ending move and assault will land you in prison.

The military, somehow, remains stuck in 1950.

May 11, 2013 at 9:05 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

A lie or two here or there, ok. Cover-up, no problem, IRS political bullying, hey it's just bidness as usual in DC. Nothing seems to bother the left.

May 11, 2013 at 9:25 p.m.
miraweb said...

I was a little bothered by that whole WMD cover up, yeah. But hey - only 4,806 U.S. personnel lost their lives and 32,223 were wounded on that one.

The GOP getting sniffly cause life in Washington just ain't fair really isn't going to win any elections.

Now firing Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, and Sarah Palin off of the celebrity circuit - that might salvage a vote or two.

New voters or perpetual minority. That is the only choice the GOP has.

May 11, 2013 at 9:39 p.m.
alprova said...

miraweb wrote: "The GOP getting excited about Tea Parties (distinctly political organizations) getting reviewed for non-profit applications (distinctly not allowed for any political organization) just doesn't get me all that worked up."

I hope the GOP keeps up the good work of getting worked up and please, let them present a unified front in all their efforts to play partisan politics with everything they express faux outrage over for the next eighteen months.

I hope that people become so sick of this crap that every single Republican candidate is shunned by the voters next year.

"Inviting the IRS to take a look at the opposition's books may not be fair - but it is very, very Washington."

Regardless of this new Fox News merry-go-round, and an apology issued by the IRS for alleged bias that may have been involved, is it not a fact that during the last several years that there was not an explosion of groups associated with the Tea-Party movement that applied for tax-exempt status AND were known to be tax protesters by the very virtue of their public talking points?

The IRS is charged with assuring that taxes are collected uniformly, fairly, and that applications from any organization attempting to claim tax-exempt status meets the requirements necessary to be exempt from taxation.

I think the IRS was a bit premature to offer an apology on this one, but I hope it results in a round of Congressional hearings and an all out attempt to blame Obama for it.

I'd love to see how they will tie this one to Hillary, but I have no doubt that at sometime in the future, if this thing gets legs and starts walking, some Republican will do it.

May 11, 2013 at 11:50 p.m.
carlB said...

PlainTruth said... A lie or two here or there, ok. Cover-up, no problem, IRS political bullying, hey it's just bidness as usual in DC. Nothing seems to bother the left.

===Reply: PlainTruth, you are wrong there are plenty conditions of past proven lies and present lying by the enemies of President Obama and those that obstruct and want to take this Republic BACKWARD that bothers me.
PlainTruth, your name cannot mean much to you if you are always trying to justify the lies being told as if they were the "PlainTruth."

May 12, 2013 at 7:35 a.m.
carlB said...

PlainTruth, The IRS checks my form every year for mistakes. I do not complainl.

May 12, 2013 at 7:40 a.m.
carlB said...

alprova, I agree that the IRS should not show any political bias ion collecting money from the people WHO OWE TAXES OR WHO MIGHT BE TRYIONG TO

May 12, 2013 at 6:58 p.m.
carlB said...

I believe that somebody just censured me?

May 12, 2013 at 8 p.m.
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