published Wednesday, May 22nd, 2013

5-at-10: Stupid Sergio, 1998 re-drafted and the Grizz grow

Remember Friday's mailbag, and we apologize for the web malfunctions from Tuesday. It's like that, and that's the way it is.

Play nice this afternoon, we're on the road to the A-T-L to attend the retirement festivities of the 5-at-10 Sr., who is retiring from Cleveland Electric, the company he has worked for for the last 46 years. Yep 46. Hard to fathom, huh? It was an epic run and we're proud of the old man. Good stuff.

From the "Talks too much" studios, leave the gun and take canoli.

Next level stupid

OK, how dumb/foolish/ignorant/(fill in the blank) does a statement have to be to allow Tiger Woods to be the sentimental victim? Well, Sergio Garcia found out Tuesday.

Mired in a cat-fight feud, the Woods-Garcia dynamic took another turn when Garcia was asked whether he would have Woods over to his house during the U.S. Open. Garcia's response was sure he would, and he would serve "fried chicken."

Garcia quickly apologized for the statement, but c'mon. Not only is it an obviously racist remark and not funny, but it's not even original, considering Fuzzy Zoeller already bombed with a very similar wise crack more than 15 years ago. Garcia was set to address the media at 9:15 this morning.

OK, we're a fan of real, heated rivalries, especially in individual sports like golf, tennis or NASCAR. It makes the performances and the stakes more interesting and impressive. This is hardly a rivalry, however. This is a guy that could be the best ever and a guy that could be the biggest underachiever ever. This is Luxembourg bad-mouthing the U.S. of A. This is a third-grader asking out the high school prom queen. This is Bobcat Goldthwait challenging the acting chops of Anthony Hopkins.

So, there was at least some gumption and a huge underdog piece to Sergio's direct and fair shots about Woods' off-the-course reputation. Hey, Garcia may not win, but he was standing up to the bully persona that defines Woods as much as his record-setting success.

Now, even those are gone because Sergio went all racial insults and stupidity. Alas.

Side question: Let's say at the U.S. Open, Woods and Garcia cross paths and they drop the (Titleist) gloves, who you got? Woods is obviously in better condition physically, but he already lost one altercation to a club-wielding foreigner (Elin). We say Woods is a 3-to-1 favorite if he and Sergio duked it out, but we'd put our entertainment vouchers on Garcia. Call it a hunch.


NBA update

Busy night in the NBA.

Part I: Downtown Patrick Brown's Memphis Grizzlies were far more competitive in an overtime loss in Game 2 against San Antonio. But this is not the Tour de France. There is no aggregate total, and heading back to Memphis the paramount number is 2. As in the Spurs' 2-0 lead.

We expect to hear from Downtown later, and we're curious about his view of the series so far. Our view? Glad you asked. While the 2-0 edge is the most important number, the most troubling for the Grizz is 18 — as in the number of assists Tony Parker had Tuesday night.

Uh, Mike Conley, if you are ready to take the next step in the point guard hierarchy, then you need to step forward and stop being pants-ed.

Part II: After what feels like a 12-week hiatus, the Eastern Conference playoffs are back in action tonight when the Miami Heatles host the Indiana Pacers. We like the cut of this series, and have high hopes.

We also are excited to see how LeBron James handles the next wave of "Ding the King" against a physical Pacers bunch that held the MVP in check better than any other team in the league.

Part III: The Cleveland Cavaliers won the draft lottery and will pick first in next month's NBA draft. It's the third time the Cavs have won the lottery in the last 10 years.

The Charlotte Bobcats, who are looking to change their name back to the Hornets, had the second-worst record but will still pick fourth. Sorry, Bobcats. Maybe Bobcat Goldthwait can lend a hand. (Side note: How has Bobcat Goldthwait not linked on with MJ and Charlotte? What else does he have going on, pitching Police Academy 16? That's a no-brainer right? And what were the odds that there would be not one but two fair and direct Bobcat Goldthwait references today? 100-to-1? Higher? Somewhere Pauly Shore is shaking his head and saying, "Where's the love, BUD-deeee?")


Super Bowl and a throwback signing

The 50th Super Bowl (Super Bowl L) will be in San Francisco in 2016. The 51st Super Bowl (Super Bowl LI) will be in Houston the following year.

The more telling fact about these votes was that there was no firm date announced. For multiple years, the Super Bowl has been the first Sunday in February. The 50th and 51st Super Bowls have merely reserved the first three weeks in February in '16 and '17.

Translation... The NFL schedule will expand before then, and likely there will be more playoff teams before then. At least that's our view of it.

Side NFL note:Charles Woodson re-signed with the Raiders, inking a one-year deal. Good for both of them, considering the Raiders drafted Woodson with the No. 4 pick in the 1998 draft. Side, side note: The 1998 draft was OUT-standing.

Hey, we love the draft. You know this. And if you re-drafted the 1998 draft, here's one version of how the top 10 would have played out (Team — player they drafted — player they would take knowing what we know now):

1) Indy Colts — Peyton Manning — Manning, who went 1st overall

2) San Diego — Ryan Leaf — Randy Moss, who went 21st overall

3) Arizona Cardinals — Andre Wadsworth — Charles Woodson, who went 4th overall

4) Oakland — Woodson — Takeo Spikes, who went 13th

5) Chicago Bears — Curtis Enis — Fred Taylor, who went 9th

6) St. Louis Rams — Grant Winstrom — Greg Ellis, who went 8th

7) New Orleans — Kyle Turley — Alan Faneca, who went 26th

8) Dallas — Ellis — Keith Brooking, who went 12th

9) Jacksonville — Taylor — Hines Ward, who went 92nd

10) Baltimore Ravens — Duane Starks — Matt Hasselbeck, who went 187th


This and that

— Your Braves rallied for a 5-4 win in 10 innings with Evan Gattis hitting a pinch-hit homer in the ninth to tie it and Freddie Freeman delivering a game-winning bloop single. Of note: Jason Heyward had two hits and has raised his average more than 30 points since returning from surgery five games ago. Also, Dan Uggla struck out two more times and is on-pace for 205 Ks.

— Mike Trout hit for the cycle last night, becoming the youngest AL player to do it. Hitting for the cycle — a single, double, triple and homer in the same game — is a novelty, but that does not change the fact that Trout is the game's best young player. Period. How long before Trout is in Yankees pinstripes?

— Great start to the Spring Fling, despite a soggy beginning to the day. Check back to throughout the day for updates from prep aces Stephen Hargis, Mean Gene Henley and Kelley Smiddie.


Today's question

What's the worst franchise in pro sports? Top to bottom, all things considered — commitment to winning, decision making, on-field/court success, et al. — which is the worst?

Here's our Rushmore:

The Cleveland Browns 2.0, who have been dismal since returning to the league (Side point: The NFL is such a cash cow that even the Browns are the dregs of the league, they are still worth $1 billion — yes that's a billion, with a 'B').

The L.A. Clippers, who have endured a tortured history for decades and are so broken internally under Donald Sterling that they fired coach Vinny Del Negro, who only set a franchise-record with 56 wins during the regular season.

The Charlotte Bobcats (Goldthwait). You know why. When the highlight of your status is the chance to change your name back to Hornets, well, there you go.

The Houston Astros. Take away Biggio and Bagwell and this is a bunch that has been completely forgettable for a long time. Well other than the quirky ball park and those brutal Orange-Yellow spectrum unis from back in the day.

about Jay Greeson...

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orangeguy said...

What an epically stupid thing to say. (We need a Rushmore of all time idiot statements from athletes.) I mean, Tiger Woods has been a walking punchline for 4 years and this is the best Sergio could do?

Any worst franchise Rushmore that doesn't include Jeffrey Loria's Marlins is incomplete. Dude tries to make rotation decisions, builds a tax payer funded stadium for 12,000 of his closest friends, and trades everyone he signed to spark excitement a year ago for a bunch of minor leaguers. Ugh.

Browns, Clippers, & Bobnets or Horncats to round it out.

May 22, 2013 at 10:35 a.m.
Livn4life said...

I get what you're saying about Serg. but what is not Racist about the term "club-welding foreigner."(Elin) Sergio is, as they say where I come from, "Not right" but then the reporters know they will get a response and they instigate it anyway. How he could be so ridiculous in light of the pc rules and regs in the US, is beyond me or maybe I underestimated his stupidity. I'll take Woods in the gloves off deal.

On the 1998 Draft(that you love WE KNOW!), wasn't Indy the team spurned by one John Elway when he was drafted or have I been listening to Dr. B's stuff(HE IS A DR WE KNOW!)too long? I find it interesting that the same Elway plucked Manning from the same team he spurned, unless I am overly Dr. B-ed.

Worst Francise has to be....Cleveland Browns. I Love the NFL you KNOW! Great Sports Day to all. Prayers and Thoughts for sports and unsports people alike who have been negavtively impacted by the storms in Oklahoma!

May 22, 2013 at 10:46 a.m.
jgreeson said...

Orange —

The Marlins are a train wreck, and Loria is a tool. But they do have two titles in the last 15-20 years.

That has to count for something, right?

We almost went with the Cubs, too.

Livn(Large) —

Yes, Elway spurned the Colts, and that dynamic was the most interest part of the 30-for-30 on the 1983 draft. Good stuff.

And we echo you sentiment for thoughts and prayers and anything anyone can spare for the Red Cross.

— 5-at-10

May 22, 2013 at 11:02 a.m.
Todd962 said...

Elway did spurn the Colts, as documented in the 30-for-30 "Elway to Marino." However, I wouldnt say that Elway was able to pluck Manning from the Colts seeing how the Colts released Manning in March of 2012. Thats not to diminish the fact that I am sure Ole Horse Toothed Elway took great pride in being able to acquire Manning with all the neck risk involved, which in addition to the acquisition of Andrew Luck played a large role in his release, and it still worked out for him. He probably had himself a few extra carrots to celebrate.

May 22, 2013 at 11:13 a.m.
JonathanMCook said...


At least you answered a burning question from yesterday. I replied to D.Cook's "Five Questions" column with some insiteful information only to have it deleted as if I did something wrong. But then there were two posts on yesterday's 5 at 10 that were gone so I knew it had to be a clitch. I'll go back and do an edited version.

Love your comparisons regarding Sergio vs. Tiger. Unfortunately, as "silly" as the third-grader asking out the prom queen might be, given the Lifetime/Nancy Grace/HLN/Dr. Drew/HLN-You be the jury/Jodi who gives a (blank)/Huffington Post sad world we live in, I would not be surprised to see said prom queen take the kid up on his offer and then some (seriously, no shock value, I actually believe it given the world today).

Pauly Shore: the love ended when you cannot entertain based on your material and have to resort to staged heckler confrontations in Odessa and then show off your dairy-air supposedly on JR/Wally's show. I didn't hear that broadcast directly, but whenever Wally was always asked who was the best/worst comic guest Mike Alfonso ever brought, he ALWAYS referenced the Pauly Shore visit as the worst.


Chicago Cubs: Even as die-hard of fanbase as they have, you can't underestimate the power of the goat. The fact the owners believe in order to solve the problem you have to throw money at it amazes me. No amount of wealth can fix voodoo.

Atlanta Hawks: The numbers pretty much speak for themselves. Last championship: 1958 (when they were still the St. Louis Hawks). Last conference championship: 1961 (when the Kennedy administration was less than 3-4 months old). Last division title: 1994 (senior at Red Bank High School). Not even native Atlantians root for these cats.

Minnesota Timberwolves: Enough said

Jacksonville Jaguars: I really like this team as Jacksonville/St. Augustine was almost a second home for me during my childhood/teenage years visiting Aunt Nancy (mom's sister) for Christmas, summer vacations, etc. However, since Mark Brunell left and Tom Coughlin became the Giants head coach, the "slump" factor is unbearable.

May 22, 2013 at 11:19 a.m.
jgreeson said...

Todd —

Couple extra carrots.

Maybe a an apple or two. Maybe he'll saddle up to the bar and say "Whiskey for my men and beer for us horses." Extra hops please.

But fair point about the Colts cutting Manning. Wow, it's to fathom how fortunate the fans of the Colts and Packers are. Barring injury, they'll get 25-30 consecutive years of Hall of Fame quarterback play.

Good times.

May 22, 2013 at 11:22 a.m.
MocTastic said...

Do you guys pay the AP for their stories? From the article on your website today attributed to the AP: "Gattis, who surprisingly made the team as a nonroster player and has been a key contributor, kept the game going with his first career pinch-hit homer." Huh? Gattis has pinch hit six times and has THREE home runs in those pinch hits. As they say, you can look it up. Whatever yall pay AP, it is too much.

May 22, 2013 at 11:24 a.m.
jgreeson said...

From friend of the show StuckinKent —

While I tend to agree on the Astros- Biggio, Bagwell, Clemens, Pettite. You left off Clemens and Pettite.

This team was in the World Series less than ten years ago. They were fairly good in the 80s as well, if memory serves. So while they really are putrid, their putridness may not quite rise to Clippers, Bobcats, and Browns 2.0 level bad. But they have no hope for the future. Their Single A team was in Lexington until this past year (now Lexington hosts the Royals Single A team). That team was always bad, too. There is little hope of the Astros future getting any better any time soon.


And one more quick point- as a non-African American, I have never really understood the fried chicken racist comments. When Fuzzy Zoeller said it 15 years ago, I didn't get what the uproar was about. I like watermelon. I like fried chicken. I had to have someone tell me that that was a racist thing to say. I had no idea at that point in time. After all these years, I still don't get why it is racist really. I like fried chicken. I like watermelon. Can I go to Sergio's house for the US Open? I also get that they both mean it in a racial way and that is the problem here. I'm just saying that I want to go to Segio's house for the US Open.....

May 22, 2013 at 11:28 a.m.
jgreeson said...


Yes, the glitches of yesterday ate a bunch of comments on the 5-at-10. Not sure about Cook's realm, but if we had to guess that would be the case.

Also, great call on the Hawks, who while not the worst could very well be on the list of most forgettable franchises in the last 20 years. Wow. Just a head-spinning tour de force of mediocrity.

Pauly Shore's 15 minutes were up long before he realized it. His career was always living on borrowed time.

MocTastic —

Thanks for the catch. That's a bad one, especially for Paul Newberry, the AP writer in question. Side note: While AP costs a ton, Newberry is one of the best in the field.

Stuck —

The brief stops of Clemens and Pettitte seem like mercenaries more than memories.

The 1980s Astros were kind of fun with Cruz and Cabell ("Let them play! Let them play!") and Ryan and Mike Scott and Terry Puhl and Garner and Craig Reynolds and Co. Good times. Still they had nothing for the Dodgers in the West, the 1980s version of the 1990s Montreal Expos in a lot of ways.

May 22, 2013 at 11:34 a.m.
JonathanMCook said...


Agreed on the fried chicken and watermelon thing. The only reason is growing up in Tennessee 1) everybody ate fried chicken (via homemade, grocery, or KFC) and 2) everyone at watermelon. There was not one family, company, school picnic where watermelon was not served.

However, for people who might live in a region where those food items are not a staple, they may see it as the negative stereotype it has been portrayed in various pop-cultural references over the years (just a theory mind you).

Now if Sergio had said "pigs feet" (like they sell at a certain Bi-Lo in a certain part of town), that would have been MORE than obvious.


No biggie but all media outlets pay the AP a licensing fee (which does cost some serious coin) in order to access their online database for any stories newspaper X or newscast Y wishes to run. During my brief employment with WDEF, our morning show director would access this information via a password and you could literally read articles that may or may not eventually end up in your local paper or newscast.

Also, I would have gone with the Marlins as a rushmore but opted because Jay hinted what I was thinking AND the fact their miseries are on their hands intentionally. "Stuff" happens is one thing, having a "fire sale" on your entire team after winning the World Series, that's 30 levels of wrong.

May 22, 2013 at 12:07 p.m.
MocTastic said...

With respect to Sergio Garcia's comments about fried chicken, you may or may not personally feel that it was racist, but anybody with any knowledge of current culture, plus any knowledge of prior sports history with respect to Tiger Woods and fried chicken (see Fuzzy Zoeller) knows you can't go down that road. Fuzzy lost millions in endorsements and Sergio probably will to. Tieing African Americans to fried chicken and watermelons is considered racist, like or not, it is reality. Now, why Tiger is considered African American is a question I have never really understood. Correct me if I am wrong, but his mother was 100% Thai/Chinese, his father was half African American, one quarter Native American and one quarter Dutch. If anything, per that, isn't Tiger an Asian American?

May 22, 2013 at 12:31 p.m.
JonathanMCook said...


He is. And has addressed this with the media on more than one occasion early in his career when he was being touted as the "first" African-American to win a masters.

And you brought up a good point on the grounds I was going to state "For those who fail to learn from history...". However, Sergio is exhibit A that no one tends to follow that rule as I keep seeing the same mistakes over and over again. I could go into a whole soapbox over de-evolvement but when people talk about MySpace as though it is as old as the wheel, that's scary enough by itself.

May 22, 2013 at 12:44 p.m.
chas9 said...

No offense to Downtown, but I don't care about The Griz. Not long ago somebody said in this space we should be proud to have an in-state team in the hunt and somebody else pointed out that Memphis is sorta another state. I'm in the latter camp. We already had the Braves and Falcons when the Oilers came to Music City. State lines mean nothing to me. Don't need the Titans. I admit that JMC is right that the Hawks have underwhelmed, though. Except for Dominique, Spud and Dikembe, a lot of meh. On my vacation out west rafting the Grand Canyon (you gotta try it if you you have a hair on your butt), we passed through Vegas and I saw the odds on winning it all in college round ball next year. UK is an astounding 3-1, Duke, Kansas and Louisville are 8-1, and The Vols are 60-1, second best in the SEC.

May 22, 2013 at 1:35 p.m.
Stewwie said...

Once again, the media has overblown a passing joke as something way more than it really was. Sergio should have refrained from making his comment only because he should know better with the 24/7 p.c. police around. But Sergio's joke was simply lame and should have been seen only as such. As for Tiger saying that the comment was "hurtful", dude needs to grow up and be a man about it. Besides, he's not going to get much sympathy from many folks outside of the liberal press room after all of his cheatin' ways.

I am pretty excited about the Heat-Pacers series. Glad to see that the Spurs came out on top last night after Memphis benefited greatly from a bad flagrant foul call near the end of regulation. I did not think that Ginobli did anything flagrant in his foul on Allen. I think the play looked worse than it really was because Allen took off from the floor at a bad angle (he should have known a foul was coming in that instance). Also, Allen dramatized his descent to the floor a bit capped with him holding his head in apparent pain despite video review showing that he didn't hit his head at all. How/why the officials upheld the flagrant call is beyond me.

Jay, the NFL's tax-exempt status is currently in the news. If it were up to you, would you allow the NFL to maintain its non-profit status? Or what changes would you make to the current laws to effectively revoke the NFL (and/or NHL and PGA) from having tax-exempt status?

May 22, 2013 at 1:37 p.m.
Livn4life said...

If YOU go to Sergio's house 5, it'll be the U.S. Closed!

May 22, 2013 at 2:24 p.m.
JonathanMCook said...


I was the person who pointed out Memphis "is sorta another state". Weeds, if I recall correctly, was the one who commented how the Grizzlies are a Tennessee team but are overlooked by the rest of the state. Memphis is indeed a city-state with no real ties to the rest of Tennessee other than for legal reasons. If Memphis really wanted to push for a larger fanbase outside of their market area, I believe they would have tried using caravans and other publicity stunts. But they know better because when it comes to the Tennessee fanbase east of Memphis, it's "The Vols" followed by "that other stuff". Hince, they keep it local the same we do for the Mocs, Lookouts, and so on (And they do for the Redbirds as well).

May 22, 2013 at 2:28 p.m.
fechancellor said...

Worst franchise over the last 20 years...The Oakland Raiders. Al Davis (pbuh) spent as much money and time fighting his then present lease on the Oakland Moliseum with Alameda County than he spent gathering football players. What Mr. Davis drafted in many cases were mostly freaks of nature more at home in WWE or TNA.

Yep, hiring Art Shell, twice, was big for the league, but not so huge for the Raiders. Hiring young, Al corralled Jon Gruden for head coach. until Gruden was getting more attention and accolades than Mr. Davis twice making the playoffs. Tampa Bay paid off in 1st round draft picks for Gruden, so Al was the undisputed Icon of Oaktown again. The picks Al artfully extracted did little to increase performance on the field.

Ten Ring too much material and miles to cover here. I'm thinking the woes in Oakland should be. The Team of The Decades would make interesting viewing for those who have not the time to read The Rise and Fall of Rome by Gibbons.

May 22, 2013 at 2:28 p.m.
Todd962 said...

Here is some fictional draft knowledge, which I know so many of you draft junkies would have brought up. During Dave Chappelle's racial draft, the African Americans selected Tiger Woods with the overall number one pick. After shaking hands with the commissioner he was quoted as saying "so long fried rice, hello fried chicken." Maybe Sergio got fictional Tiger and real Tiger confused and legitimately thought he had an affection for fried chicken. In the same skit the Latinos took Elian Gonzalez at number three cause they were worried the Caucasians were going to steal him at number four.

May 22, 2013 at 2:47 p.m.
deboman said...

I'll offer up another franchise for the Rushmore...the Detroit Lions. Other than a playoff run last year, this organization has been atrocious. They were gifted with probably the best running back to ever play the game and paired him with Wayne Fontes and a host of other forgetful coaches. Then to really drive the franchise into the ground they put it into the hands of Matt Millen that managed to draft that team into an O - Season mark. Am still baffled by the idea of four years of first round WR picks. There could be a 30-30 on that draft strategy and its eventual outcome, great stuff there.

May 22, 2013 at 2:58 p.m.
GratefulDawg said...

I don't follow golf so I didn't even know Tiger and Sergio had a beef with each other. However, fried chickengate is yet another reason I'm not a fan of most trash-talking in sports. I have a thick skin and a weird sense of humor thus I'm not offended by jokes that push the bounds. The fact of the matter is that most people who talk trash are terrible at it. Ali is and will always be the master. ESPN Classic has aired "The Ali Rap" multiple times and it is a masters thesis of trash talk. Most of the time trash talk consists of lame jokes or some variation of "Oh yeah, well you suck!" It's just boring.

JMC, for what it's worth, I had the opportunity to read your comments on David Cook's five questions before they disappeared into the ethereal abyss. That was quite a contribution on your part, nice job.

9er, did you do one of those multiday trips in the Grand Canyon? I'm an old river-rat and the Colorado is near the top of my bucket list. I tried to book a trip a few years ago, but this is back when run permits were severely limited and the waiting list was long. Never could quite make it work. I understand the process has been facilitated over the last few years, so time to give it another shot.

May 22, 2013 at 3:02 p.m.
patrickbrown said...

when the 5-at-10 expects to hear from you, you make sure he does...

Conley scored 18 last night, including the game-tying shot in regulation, despite playing less than half the first half after he literally did not touch Gary Neal and they gave him his 3rd foul anyway (and after that bad call, Spurs closed the half 15-3, I believe).

for the playoffs, Conley is averaging 17 points and seven assists with just two turnovers per game. he nearly triple-doubled in the Game 2 win at OKC and scored 20+ three times against Chris Paul and the Clippers. when the Grizzlies need a basket, I like the ball in Conley's hands probably more than anybody else's, certainly more than Rudy Gay's, who had that role pre-trade.

all that is to say that Conley is firmly in that second tier of NBA point guards, and that ain't a bad thing with the NBA's crop of Parker, Paul, Rose, Rondo, Westbrook, Kyrie, Curry, and even Damian Lillard and Deron Williams, Ty Lawson, Ricky Rubio and John Wall.

May 22, 2013 at 3:46 p.m.
BIspy4 said...


Props to your dad, a great dude.

Those late 70s-early 80s Astros teams - Terry Puhl, Alan Ashby, Jose Cruz Sr, Craig Reynolds, et al - weren't bad. Actually, they were pretty good. The uniforms? Not so much.

Bad franchises? The Columbus Blue Jackets. The team that used to be known as the Atlanta Thrashers. The Kansas City Royals of the last 25 years. The Jaguars did play for the AFC Championship twice. But they stink on ice since then.

Couldn't care less if Woods and Garcia get along. What woods should do is say he'd gladly wash down his fried chicken with a couple of glasses of pond water from the 17th at TPC. Or just go, "Hey, look, Sergio! A 5-footer for par to win a major!" And watch him shake like Shakira meets Beyoncé.

May 22, 2013 at 3:52 p.m.
JonathanMCook said...


Thanks for reading. :D

May 22, 2013 at 3:54 p.m.
TNBuck said...

GDawg - I'm river rat myself. Commercial trips on the GC are fairly easy to come by depending on the craft you want. The big J-rigs with motors are the cheapest, followed by oar rigs, paddle rafts, then the famous doris.

It gets more compliated when you want to go on a private trip. There are permits and lotteries involved.

Grew up in Toledo, OH. The Browns and the Lions are terrible. Hard to pick the team that's worse really. Barry Sanders was a beast and I think the Lions had one playoff victory to show for it. Similar to Peterson in the fact everyone knew he was getting the ball and still couldn't stop him.

Browns 1.0 and 2.0 are still a yard short. Mabye they'll get a rebate.

May 22, 2013 at 6:20 p.m.
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