published Friday, May 31st, 2013

5-at-10: Friday mailbag on LeBron, tradition, ultimate golf foursomes and summer requests

Gang, great week, and thanks for all the feedback.

It has been such a strangely full week we did not even have time to fully tip our cap to one of the show's favorites, Mr. Les Miles, who when asked about the 13-1 vote by SEC coaches for an eight-game schedule said it was unanimous.

God Bless Les, and God Bless the United States of America.

From the "Talks too much" studios, see if you can guess what we are now....

From JordanRules


You know I read your LeBron worship, and sometimes I think you do it just to poke at me and some of the others.

Is that it, or do you really love LeBron this much? Why? The guy has the same number of titles as Dirk and Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce for crying outloud?

He's a good player who is a physical freak. Why all the James love?

Jordan —

We expected to hear from you, and in truth, LeBron's monster third quarter in last night's Heat win takes a little of the pressure off this morning. Whew. (Side note: LeBron was slap money last night, and the third quarter was a clinic. Period. Dude had a hand in 25 of the Heat's 30 points in the decisive third quarter. And say what you want, pro-LeBron or anti-LeBron, but to watch LeBron after halftime, in the most important quarter of the season for his team, LeBron took over. It was a far cry from the guy that at times was in the shadows two years ago in the Finals.)

We like LeBron. Not as much as the draft of course but you know this.

We like LeBron because he is the best athlete in sports right now, and we respect greatness.

We like LeBron because even with his immense physical gifts he plays the game the right way.

We like LeBron because he is the most unselfish superstar in recent memory.

We like LeBron because we want to watch athletes and teams pursue all-time excellence.

Now we do not necessarily like the Heat. We like Wade, but we think Chris Bosh is kind of clownish (Side note: Do you really need to scream after every basket? You're 7-feet tall and make $17 million per year, you should be expected to make 5-footers.) We are not a fan of Pat Riley, since his rough-and-tackle style of the mid-1990s set the NBA back a decade.

But we like LeBron, so we're pulling for the Heat.

Now let us ask this to you JR or those that are anti-LeBron?

We told you why we like LeBron, so tell us why all the LeBron hate?

Is it the Decision? And if that's the case, then OK, but if the worst mistake any of us make is a terrible PR decision and a public break-up that raises seven figures for the Boys and Girls Clubs of America, well OK.

And know this, the NBA needs Miami to win this series. What's the over/under on the number of people who are going to watch a Pacers-Spurs series with those games tipping off around 9 Eastern? We'll put the Neilsen number near 3.0 or roughly a third of a Sunday Night NFL game.


From Joey C.

We were talking the other day about who would be your dream golf foursome, and the more I think about that question, the more I think it is interesting.

Take my friend's list of Tiger, Jack and Tom Watson, you see that list and you know he loves golf. Another guy said Kate Upton, Beyonce and Jennifer Aniston. He's not as into golf.

So who you got 5er and why?


Thanks for the question and for reading the 5-at-10. Feel free to swing by often while it still don't cost nothing.

We got crunched this morning with kids and swirling work stuff, and your question is so money we do not want to rush it.

We know Charles Barkley is going to be involved, because we know that...

a) Chuck is a fun guy

b) Chuck loves to gamble

c) Chuck is a terrible golfer, so we could laugh and make some coin — good times.

We also polled TFP golf writing ace David Uchiyama on his ideal foursomes, and Uch broke it down accordingly:

From Uch "With the understanding that we could actually do it in a $10 mil charity event tomorrow at THC or Pebble...

Clint Eastwood (he has an ownership stake in the Pebble Beach Co), Joe Montana, Author Sherman Alexi (Fantastic Native American writer.)

Still living but couldn't play: Ali, Nelson Mandela, The Queen!

Deceased: Lincoln, Einstein, and Thomas Jefferson

We'll be back with our list and feel free to add yours.


From Billy-In-Brainerd…not really a question, but more of a request:


While writing from the beach while on vacation [the nerve you have], you mentioned the “summer lull of the 5@10”. Please allow me to propose a couple of options to get us to August and football.

First, as one of the 5 topics, you could give us a “Chaos” update every day. Johnny MocsFan or not, new coach Will Wade is generating a lot of interest in UTC Men’s Basketball.

Or pick a day [Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday], and discuss 5 things about UTC Athletics: Mocs Football, Mocs Basketball, Lady Mocs Basketball, AD David Blackburn, other Mocs/Lady Mocs sports.

UTC overload? Yeah, maybe, but it is only for a couple of months.

Thanks for the consideration and keep up the good work that is T-FP Sports,

B-I-B, UTC ‘82


All requests are given fair and even measure. This is our family-oriented, interweb-based sports column — all of ours — we just run the point.

The 5-at-10 would not be anywhere near as fun — and would have been folded long ago in all likelihood — without you filling the lane and Spy and Chas9 telling us to turn our music down, and looking to some of the regular experts like JMC for cartoon wisdom and OG for wrestling knowledge (how was Ric Flair?) and Todd962 for hangover help or Jomo for his anti-UT rants and C-Vol and the rest of the Johnny Vols Fans for the pro-UT views.

Even the old-school guys like Debo and Oso and EC and Dawg and P-Davi and the rest that lurk around every now and then but were there from the beginning have a stake in this thing. Not a financial stake mind you but a stake none the less.

So we're always looking to make this better and suggestions like this help.

Let us kick it around with some of our beat guys — we do not want to step on toes — and see what we come up with, but we can see a hybrid-sort of possibility here. Maybe a "5 mostly serious questions with..." type of deal with some of the UTC people and go from there. Important stuff like asking Coach Wade who is his biggest influence, what is his biggest worry for next season and who had the better debut album, G-n-R, the Beastie Boys or Kanye.

Thanks for reading and the ideas.

And you know what, we're three weeks from 700 consecutive Mondays-through-Fridays of this little thing and thanks to all of you folks that make it fun.


From Chad,

A friend of mine showed me your blog a few weeks ago, and I really enjoy it.

I don't know if this has been asked in the past or if you covered this recently, but as a lifelong Vols fan, I have a bunch of questions about the new staff.

But the question I want to know the answer to most is there any end to Alabama's dominance in sight?

Thanks and keep up the good work.


Thanks for the question and feel to ask later about the Vols. (Side note: UT football coach Butch Jones continues to rake on the recruiting trail, and as Downtown Patrick Brown told us in today's TFP that the Vols' 2014 class is ranked No. 1 by Yes, it is incredibly early and there will be a ton of changes between now and then, but right now, any good news is especially good for Johnny Vols Fans everywhere. Side note II: When a prospect commits to UT, do you think the coaches get together, do a little celebrating, then say the prospect's name with a long pause before yelling, "Butch's, man, Butch's."

Chad, as for the Bama dominance, we could craft long and flowing paragraphs with attempts at humor, but let's go with this:

Alabama's dominance is here for the foreseeable future. Too much talent, and too much Saban.


From AUFollower


Love the 5-at-10 -- thanks for doing it everyday.

Did you see the plan to replace the trees at Toomer's Corner? What in the world...

This is the best they could come up with?!?!

What are your thoughts and thanks.

(Looking forward to you and Paschall getting back on the radio soon.)


Thanks for the kind words, and yes, we did see the announcement that Auburn has replaced the famed oaks that were poisoned by that Alabama nut job (his name is barred from these parts) with.... wait for it...

Three concrete polls.

Yep, they erected three concrete poles into a triangle and have put wires across them to catch any toilet paper celebrating Auburn fans may throw. So, by doing this they officially have allowed that crack pot to end the tradition of rolling Toomer's.

OK, let's back up just a moment. Throwing toilet paper into trees to celebrate anything seems like a pretty odd and out there tradition, we'll grant you that. But it was Auburn's tradition, and as silly as it may seem the AU folks embraced it.

But, even while we could turn a blind eye to the silliness in part because of the tradition, it's going to be hard to restart a tradition that is even sillier. So it goes. Hey, maybe it will stick and people will embrace the new. (That's what they said with New Coke and we saw how that worked.)

Rolling concrete poles with wires? Curse you Howie Upchuck or whatever your name is.

Discuss and enjoy the weekend.

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dawg747 said...

Ten Cup: I still love reading the 5@10 everyday just do not always get to comment. You being an Auburn grad it has got to really frustrate you to know an Alabama fan has relegated Tiger fans to throwing TP at wires on concrete polls. I thught growing up that is waht trees were for.

As for a golf foursome. Here is mine: Jack Nicklaus: got to play at least one round with the Bear. Chi Chi Rodriguez: always loved his antics on the golf course. Lee Trevino: got to have someone to give Jack some competition
plus make us all laugh. If Lee or chi Chi cannot play then we invite Kate Upton to keep our minds off our troubles.

How long to do you think Uggla, Upton and Heyward are going to sit after last night?

May 31, 2013 at 10:29 a.m.
chas9 said...

Yes, but try taking on Sir Charles in a game of horse, Honest Abe in rail-splitting, The Queen in croquet, and Professor Einstein in making bagels.

My understanding of the concrete polls (or poles, if you prefer), is that they are temporary, until the little trees grow up. Hope so. Vanna, can I buy an E ?

Congrats to The Lady Vols for their softball awesomeness. And congrats also to The Fighting Butches for climbing to #1 in the Rivals 2014 football list, as Downtown reports.

But equally awesome (from a down-looking-up perspective) is that UK is #12 on that same list, ahead of The Plainsmen, The G-Dawgs, and The Gators. Because of The SEC's dominance, #12 nationally is only #5 in the league.

May 31, 2013 at 10:32 a.m.
mcpell3 said...

"Rolling concrete polls with wires? Curse you Howie Upchuck or whatever your name is." - Amen & pass the biscuits.

May 31, 2013 at 10:35 a.m.
Todd962 said...


Learning is fun. Spelling Bee rocked last night. LeBron, coming from the french word Bron, meaning angry one, Lebron, definition, the beast within, LeBron...L...A...dammit!

Hangover advice of the day: You cant be hungover if you never attain sobriety.

May 31, 2013 at 10:39 a.m.
chet123 said...

Lebron James gets away with offensive fouls...and the ref's say nothing........this is why I rather wtch college basketball....

notice how James uses his fore-arm and push back with his hands ...right in front of the referees.......but if the opposing players even light touch James its called a foul.........this is a pattern that extended in last year championship against ok the calls this will get most of the calls.....this is about money....not about the best team.

Oh yeah!....James and Wade have master the flop!!!..that make them a fake!!...give me john havacheck or michael jordan or walt frazier in clutch moments!

May 31, 2013 at 11:32 a.m.
jgreeson said...

Dawg —

Great point about the benefits of competition for the swing and miss trio.

And a tip of the cap to one of the originals.

9er —

You have been around these parts for a while too.

And thanks for the catch on the poles/polls. Not sure what happened there other than we type the word poll about 100 times more frequently and it was kind of muscle memory.

UK being 12th is impressive.

And to be fair, the number of commits for UT — 14 — is a big reason why they are No. 1 since recruiting rankings are points systems (total rather than average).

McPell —

War Eagle.

Todd —

That's some straight wisdom right there. Along the lines of "Rehab is for quitters" type of logic from the working-man, beer-drinking fortune cookies of imperial knowledge.

And yes, LBJ looked angry last night. In fact, the after-the-fact stories about the Pacers guard Stephenson talking smack to James and how it fired James up may be on the critically stupid list. Up there with pulling Clark's cape and kicking a bee hive.

Chet —

Thanks for your anti-LeBron reasons, and while James may get a few more calls than most — but remember, he has the ball in his hands a lot and he goes to the tin frequently — we think James' strength works against him in the eyes of the refs quite often.

As Ron Burgandy would say, "When in Rome..."

May 31, 2013 at 11:55 a.m.
JonathanMCook said...

Ten Ring,

While I appreciate B-i-B's pride in the Blue and Gold (wearing my Mocs alumni golf shirt here at my cubby hole in the 972), I agree with you on Mocs overkill and not wanting to step on Frierson's (or anyone else's) toes.

In all fairness, there really is nothing major to report or research. Right now the conference is slowly rebuilding, Blackburn has got a lot of fundraising to do, and Huesman is being Huesman (aka don't bother me, don't ask for my opinion, I have a football team that NEEDS to be ready by August).

This will be of course followed-up by Frierson's tweets via the "Johnny Moc Fan Do-It-Yourself Frierson Tweet via Facebook Link" :D

"The (Offense/Defense) is doing well; Huesman is mad at the (opposite) and is having them (run gassers/do thirty more drills)"

"(Jacob/Silk) just threw 5 for 10 and 2 TD passes; Huesman is mad at the defense for not following the reads.

"The defense intercepts (Jacob/Silk) pass; Huesman is mad at (Jacob/Silk/Offense) for not following the reads".

"The team is doing (gassers/drills) to (Rocky IV/Iron Eagle/Karate Kid) soundtrack."

Rinse and Repeat.

As far as "Chaos, Havoc, Go Go Power Ranger" is concerned, I'll withhold anticipation until AFTER the schedule is available. While I predict "Foster's Femme Fatales" to have a "red meat" type of schedule that would make Xena salavate, if the men's are playing a Georgia Tech and twenty "Kalamazoo Institutes for Tap Dance and Gang-Related Activities", I could CARE LESS if the starting line-up were five Michael Jordan clones.

May 31, 2013 at 12:07 p.m.
fechancellor said...

Jordan Rules:

Sing it ZZ Top, "That's right, that's right, you know that's right."

But that's wrong labeling Lebron "physical freak." I believe the proper term is "gifted athlete." Think hard about MJ and his athleticism and skills, MJ like Wilt, Moses, Kareem, Magic could easily be included such a category in their days.

10 Ring, put me down for Bobby Jones, Chi Chi (good call Jordon rules). Happened to be there once do see his Sword Dance after a birdy at the Atlanta Country Club) Raymond Floyd, and last but not least, the Hawk, Ben Hogan.

May 31, 2013 at 12:35 p.m.
JonathanMCook said...


::completely unrelated to 5 at 10:: but loved your comment on "Drew's Views". Agree with everything. I like listening to Heffie via streaming in the morning given how Dallas radio stinks. But yeah, NO HEFFIE ACTS!

May 31, 2013 at 1:11 p.m.
chas9 said...

JMC--Excellent riff on predictable sports cliches. Yours is a close second to Crash's soliloquy in Bull Durham, and the one Florida's SID will be using after the Satan tiff.

May 31, 2013 at 1:13 p.m.
Todd962 said...

I think my foursome would have Jordan and Barkley to see them go back and forth and bet ridiculous amounts of money as if it didnt matter and then round it out with Bill Murray. A big hitter, the Llama.

May 31, 2013 at 1:23 p.m.
chas9 said...

Fiver, 962, fec, and the rest who weighed in on the foursome, have you been checked for low-T? Why wouldn't you want to golf with the four supermodels who had their suits painted on in the most recent SI swimsuit issue? You shouldn't have to check whether your putter was anchored against your gut when on the greens with that winsome quad.

May 31, 2013 at 1:31 p.m.
JonathanMCook said...


Inside industry secret. There's no such thing as Low T. So you don't have to take pill "X" or listen to Heffie volmit on and on about Blue Sky MD this, that and your mamma until the cows come home.

If you think you're suffering from so-called Low-T check your left hand. If you see a gold ring, there's your problem. The rest of us, do what I do: P90X until you can't move, recovery drink, and then check your T via xhamster, wash hands and repeat.

Your move Heffie (and everybody else in this racket).

May 31, 2013 at 2:19 p.m.
GratefulDawg said...

"My understanding of the concrete polls (or poles, if you prefer), is that they are temporary, until the little trees grow up. Hope so. Vanna, can I buy an E?" --chas9

I read an article last night in which an Auburn official described the poles as a "stopgap" measure until the oaks could be replaced. The poles are not being erected (insert snicker here) as a permanent replacement.

I understand how tradition works and in college football tradition reigns supreme. However, from the outside looking in, I see pole dancing as an upgrade from tossing toilet paper. What's that old saying: When life gives you a bats**t crazy Bama fan, give it up for Velvet on the center stage. Or something like that.

May 31, 2013 at 2:54 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

5, I respect LeBronBron's skill, prowess and competitiveness. He is compelling to watch. And I'm pulling for the Pacers. Lower ratings nationally - Stanley Cup Finals or NBA Finals of Indiana vs San Antonio? Dream foursome: Jack Nicklaus, Bobby Orr, my old man. Or my friend Riannon. She doesn't play golf but who cares? The most beautiful woman I've ever known and ... War Eagle ... a two time Auburn grad. And you punks keep that music down. Whippersnappers.

May 31, 2013 at 3:08 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

Did i just see a shout out to zz top's "manic mechanic"?


May 31, 2013 at 3:15 p.m.
sportsfan said...

Jay - enjoy the 5 at 10. Put me down for Nicklaus, Palmer, and Player. I'm older than I look.

May 31, 2013 at 7:41 p.m.
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