published Tuesday, November 26th, 2013

Military doesn’t respect Christians — and more letters to the editors

Military doesn’t respect Christians

Christians in the military are being persecuted for their beliefs.

The Marines were told to stop supporting Operation Christmas Child — Franklin Grams outreach to poor children because it was Christian. Christian prayers were banned at military funerals.

In 2011 Walter Reed Military Hospital baned Bibles and “religious materials from being given to soldiers. In March 2012 the Army labeled Evangelicals and Catholics as “extremist” along with the KKK and Al-Qaeda. Obama objects to the Flemming Amendment which would protect religious freedoms for soldiers.

Recently at Camp Shelby Mississippi, soldiers were told that the American Family Association and the Family Research Council, both evangelical in their beliefs were considered “hate groups” lumped with Neo-Nazi’s and the KKK. Fort Hood Texas soldiers were told that the tea party and pro-life groups were “a threat to America” and anyone who supported such groups would be punished. Sargent William Monks was relieved of duty because he believes in the Biblical view of marriage.

What is a Christian to do?

First, pray for our military. Secondly, speak out — let your congressman and senators know how you feel about our soldiers being punished for holding Biblical beliefs! Thirdly, be prepared. Persecution is in our schools, our places of business and is coming to our churches should our leaders choose to speak for truth.

Sadly out of 18000 churches in Germany, only about 200 choose to take a stand for truth. Will America do much better?

To contact your congress person or senator call 202-224-3121.

CONNIE LEONESSA


No vote neededon domestic partners

Having served for eight years on a city council in the Birmingham area before moving here in 2012, I find the call for an election on the issue of domestic partner benefits ill considered.

A city council is elected by the people to represent them in decisions regarding the administration of municipal government. These elected officials pool their collective wisdom for the guidance of the city. This form of government assures an efficient, effective and representative way to run local government.

If every administrative or legislative question were put to a vote of the people, government would grind to a halt.

When I was president of the city council, we proposed a change in form of government. Legally we had the option of making the change via council vote or election. Changing the form of governance in our opinion warranted a vote of the people.

The question of employee benefits is very basic and routinely handled by city councils throughout our country. Our opportunity for a voice on routine municipal issues came when we voted for our representatives. No further election is required.

MARY LEE RICE

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ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

One of the greatest insults to the Citizens of any country is to tell them they are too ignorant/dumb to govern themselves.

Traditionally most U.S Senators and Representatives do not vote the will of the people...after they get elected. (Then, they 'change their tunes' (wink-wink/if You know what I mean).

There is indeed a 'trickle down effect' which results in state and local government's elected officials doing the same (not voting the will of the people).

Why so many good people choose to agree that they are too dumb to know what they need in life is beyond me. I know, as our United States Congressional Candidate, Ron Bhalla knew...that our Citizenry IS smart enough to govern themselves.

Indeed, every administrative or legislative question needs to be put to the vote of the people. Politics can do strange things to otherwise good folk...once they get elected!

Ken ORR

November 26, 2013 at 12:43 a.m.
LibDem said...

CONNIE LEONESSA, Christians comprise about 80% of the US population but like to pretend they are a persecuted, martyred minority. I can agree that it is indeed pitiful.

November 26, 2013 at 7:28 a.m.
moon4kat said...

I wonder whether Ms. Leonessa's report is truly factual. Her letter offers only provocative and inflammatory third-hand hearsay, at best. Perhaps the TFP will investigate and determine whether the military really is "persecuting" Christians. Perhaps, as often happens, Christians object when other religions are allowed access to the same platforms they want to claim exclusively. (All stores must chime "merry Christ-mas" because Christians say so.)
And, Ms. Leonessa says "The Marines were told," and "soldiers were told," . . . but she doesn't say by whom. Please provide specifics that can be verified.
As for the Sgt. relieved of duty, I suspect that was because of his disrespectful actions, not just because he "believed" in the Biblical view of marriage.

November 26, 2013 at 8:01 a.m.
LibDem said...

"Indeed, every administrative or legislative question needs to be put to the vote of the people." Indeed, we could have slaves in Tennessee.

November 26, 2013 at 8:48 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Mrs. Leonessa,

With all due respect, your letter is littered with inaccuracies and, in some cases, with plain lies. I am not insinuating that you are wanting to publish lies, rather you are restating lies that you have heard from various media outlets. First off, Bibles are not "banned at Walter Reed", nor were they ever. The CO (commanding officer) issued in memo in 2011 to prevent unwanted proselytizing, but it was worded poorly. The memo was never enforced and rescinded four months later. Second, I can find nothing that says the US Marines no longer support Operation Christmas Child. I am almost positive that the local Marine reserve unit still actively supports Toys for Tots. Thirdly, the case involving AF Sgt William Monk is not accurately presented. You claim that he was "relieved of duty", while the AF states "his assignment ended, and he was due a new duty station". Monk (and his attorney) is claiming it was because of his religious views, while the AF denies this accusation. Fourthly, when did the Tea Party affiliate itself or proclaim to be a Christian organization?

Mrs. Leonessa, I was in the military and not one time was I encouraged not to practice my religious beliefs. We had four Navy Chaplains aboard the ship and religious services were held on a daily basis (a prayer group held a nightly meeting on the forward mess decks). I would encourage you to not listen to everything you hear on political talk shows and instead open a line of communication with military servicemen and women. They know what is happening in their unit and on their base, not some guy sitting in a radio booth.

November 26, 2013 at 2:08 p.m.
ToHoldNothing said...

The military doesn't have to respect Christians more than they give a basic respect to everyone, as they are obligated to in terms of discipline, etc. Chaplains have a place, though not everyone would use them. And Christians don't get special treatment; mischaracterizing the limitations on excessive fundamentalist behavior as "persecution" insults Christians or Jews who are persecuted in the Middle East because of Islamic and cultural/political prejudice against them

November 26, 2013 at 9:39 p.m.
CarolinaGal said...

The military leadership is hostile towards Christianity, primarily because of the support for homosexuals, but also because of the growing support of activist atheist organizations. This will affect recruitment and retention. Draft able males beware.

November 29, 2013 at 12:32 p.m.
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