published Thursday, October 10th, 2013

5-at-10: SEC items of interest, Fab-4-plus-1 picks and best/worst sportsmen in movies

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SEC watch list

This is a fairly impressive SEC football week, and Johnny Vols Fans everywhere get a week to relax. Let's get to the games in the SEC.

(Side note: There are a slew of games around the country that have our interest, too. If you'd like to discuss, feel free.)

Good on good and best on best in Death Valley

LSU and Florida take the field in what is the best cross-divisional rivalry in the SEC. Yes, Alabama-Tennessee is the most passionate and Auburn-Georgia is the longest, but LSU-Florida is the best. Those guys are good at tackle football. And when the LSU wide receivers try to get open against the Florida secondary, it likely will pit the best group of wide outs against the best collection of defensive backs in the country. In fact, if this game is going to be as entertaining as we think it can be, the Florida secondary will have to best the best and top the likes of Odell Beckham Jr. and Jarvis Landry. Good luck with that.

Buckle up Colonel Reb

After a tough loss at Auburn, Ole Miss has to gird up its loins and try to figure out a way to stop Johnny Football and the high-flying Texas A&M offense. This will be a test — and a high-scoring one at that — for the young Rebels and how they respond will speak volumes about the growth and potential of this young bunch in Oxford. The difference between winning and losing sometimes is so slight — and so magnified — that it is staggering. The difference for Ole Miss in Auburn last week was Tigers defensive back Robenson Therezie made a difficult interception and returned it for a 78-yard score, while an Ole Miss defender dropped a certain pick-six in the second half. Now, the Rebels have the Aggies on deck and LSU in the hole.

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    South Carolina's Jadeveon Clowney is hugged by a teammate after making a sack on Clemson quarterback Tajh Boyd.
    Photo by Associated Press /Chattanooga Times Free Press.


Yep, in SEC parlance, at least this week, that stands for What Will Jadeveon Do, and considering the fall-out from last week's decision, all of the country will be paying attention when South Carolina goes to Arkansas on Saturday. For those of you who picked up the sports page by mistake and wondered, "where are those pecky stock listings," here's the back story: South Carolina defensive end Jadeveon Clowney likely would have been the No. 1 overall pick in last year's draft but because of NFL rules he was not eligible to enter. He came back to Columbia amid a growing Heisman buzz and a ton of attention. He has started slowly — in part because every offensive coordinator from the Aztecs to the Zips is game-planning for the monster — and has battled injuries. He told Steve Spurrier and the Gamecocks that he could not play against Kentucky last week, setting off a ripple effect that became a tidal wave of debate about whether he should protect himself or bust it for the team. Now, he's questionable going to Arkansas, which underperformed at Florida last week but can run the football against less-than-Gator-tastic defenses. So what happens Saturday? What will Jadeveon do? If he's truly questionable, so is the outcome in this one.

Will they add an extra column on the Sanford Stadium scoreboard

Missouri and quarterback James Franklin are the league's biggest surprise to date, scoring points in bunches and sprinting to a 5-0 record. Sure, that's been against less-than-stellar competition, but to match last year's win total in five Saturdays is impressive. Georgia's offense has been excellent and Aaron Murray has positioned himself to get a Heisman invite. But the Bulldogs have been forced to score all those points because Todd Grantham's defense apparently is allergic to tackling. (Maybe someone told Todd those smokey gray UT uniforms were 'non-contact' jerseys, who knows?) Georgia has been able to win shootouts since it's season-opneing 38-35 loss to Clemson, but the Bulldogs keep losing ammunition on a weekly basis. Can Murray and the next-wave of Georgia offensive stars score with Missouri? First team to 40 wins? Better make that first team to 50 wins.

Can Kentucky get 10?

The Wildcats rallied last week as Clowney fiddled and turned an early three-touchdown hole into a 35-28 fight at South Carolina. Saturday is a bigger test. Kentucky has settled on Jalen Whitlow at quarterback. Congrats Jalen. Or condolences. Whitlow and the Wildcats welcome an Alabama defense that is playing at an extremely high level right now. Other than the arcade shootout engineered by Texas A&M's pinball wizard Johnny Football, the Alabama defense has allowed 19 points in four games.


Fab 4-plus-4 picks

You know the mantra of the picks around these parts — say it with us — "for entertainment purposes only."

Well last week was as entertaining as a Carrot Top one-man performance of Ishtar. Last week's 1-4 mark was as much fun as having an emergency root canal during an impromptu insurance seminar. It was our first sub-.500 week of the season, and it was real and spectacularly bad.

Not good times. (Side note: the Mrs. 5-at-10 has developed an ability on late Saturday afternoon to scan the lines, pick one evening game and never the 'twain shall meet. Let's just say that if we were in an entertainment deficit last Saturday around 6, the Mrs. 5-at-10 noticing, "Hey why is LSU only giving Miss State 10 points? LSU is going to kill them," served our entertainment accounts quite nicely. Well-played indeed. Yes dear.)

So with the debacle that was 1-4, and the lessons of moving away from lines that look too good to be true and vowing not to put too much into the previous week's performance, let's try this again.

Mississippi State minus-10 over Bowling Green: Mississippi State is a bottom shelf SEC team right now. That still makes the Bulldogs better than most of the country. Yes, the Bowling Green Green Bowlers (that's not their nickname, but it should be) are 5-1, but that mark is inflated with wins over Akron, Miami and Kent State, a trio that is a collective 3-14. We'd likely buy the half to be safe — and those of you in the entertainment world know what that means.

LSU minus-6.5 over Florida: Tyler Murphy has been the best two-star prospect in the five-star history of Florida recruiting. The back-up QB who has been forced into action because of Jeff Driskel's season-ending injury has been aces. Well, LSU likes to trump aces, especially in Death Valley, where LSU coach Les Miles says, "opponent's dreams come to die." Raise your hand if you love Les Miles. It's OK, no one's looking. Les makes the game more fun, and we should embrace him for that because when you find "a spectacular group of men, you go find them, you put your arm around them and you give them a big kiss on the mouth... If you're a girl." Not that there's anything wrong with that.

BYU minus-7 over Georgia Tech: BYU went across the country last year and thumped the Jackets, and the experienced Cougars now get to wait for the Jackets to make a second long road trip in as many weeks. We'd buy the half here just to be safe, and if this one goes the way we expect, the whispers around The Flats about Paul Johnson's future will grow.

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    Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel throws during NCAA college football practice in College Station, Texas.
    Photo by Associated Press /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

Texas A&M minus-6 over Ole Miss: We have vowed not to let the previous week's result not affect our view. That said, the way Ole Miss struggled to contain Auburn's Nick Marshall should sound major warning bells considering the Rebels now have to face the dude of duality, the duke of duck and the king of fling, yes, college football's sharp-edged dagger of swagger, Mr. Johnny Manziel Football Merchandize, esquire. Side question: If Johnny Football took a few extra 'online' courses, could he someday be Dr. Johnny Football. That would be cool. Would he then have Johnny Football, M.D. on his card? Oh yeah, the picks... hard not to see the Aggies scoring enough to win and with a line under a TD, we say thanks and hope to cash the entertainment checks.

UNLV minus-9 over Hawaii: Here's what we know — Hawaii is balanced in bad, ranking in the bottom 25 nationally in scoring (20 points per game is 105th in the country) and scoring defense (allowing 34.6 per game, which is 103rd) and is 0-5 overall and has lost twice on the mainland by an average of 20.5 points. UNLV has won three in a row. Now don't get spoiled by all this research, it's time for a nap.


Postseason baseball

We grew up a baseball fan. We, like most of the folks our age, have faded away from the game. Not sure why really, maybe it's the pace or the fact that it's hard to make it to the end of a postseason game without clicking over and seeing who's on Letterman.

Heck, maybe it's the subconscious wondering if every player on the mound throwing 100 or stepping into the box with an OPS of 1.000 is on the PEDs.

Who knows?

That said, the theater that has been this postseason has been rich and engaging.

For the majority of the Cardinals' 6-1 Game 5 win last night, the drama was evident and gripping. St. Louis scored three in the bottom of the eight to back Adam Wainwright — former Brave by the way — and end the dream that had been the Pirates' magical walk along the postseason plank.

Now, old-school baseball folks get the very-1980s Cards-Dodgers in the NLCS. Good times.

Now we get another decisive Game 5 tonight when the A's and Tigers play with two stud duck pitchers taking the mound in Detroit's Justin Verlander and Oakland's Sonny Gray, a Nashville native and former Vandy ace.

Good times indeed.

Side note: If baseball wants to build on the momentum that these engaging playoffs are creating, start by doing everything possible to make the games end by 11ish Eastern. Work in some human interest stories that do not involve A-Rod or Canseco or Robinson Cano and his agent Jay-Z wanting a 10-year, $300-million contract. Get Tom Rinaldi on it for crying out loud.


This and that

— Tennessee vs. Virginia Tech at Bristol Motorspeedway? Those are the reports that the teams could take the infield in 2016. Hey, can we get UTC vs. VMI at Boyd's Motorspeedway?

— There are some great college football games on the horizon in coming weeks. There's FSU-Clemson next weekend. There's Oregon-Stanford and Alabama-LSU in early November. Saturday, there is the antithesis of those match-ups. Saturday is the ultimate Toilet Bowl as 0-5 Miami of Ohio goes to 0-5 UMass in the closest thing to an unwatchable college football game that has every been staged. Miami is 125th national in scoring at 8.8 points per game; UMass is 126th at 7.0 per game. There are 126 FBS teams, by the way. Watching this thing will be like watching a monkey have a conversation with a pitching wedge — you may recognize what's going on even if you have never seen it, but you can't be sure and strangely you can't take your eyes off it. Also of note, the game will be at the New England Patriots' home, Gillette Stadium, which seats more than 68,000. Here's saying there are still several good sections available. First one to nine wins.

— Julio Jones is done for the year, and so are the Falcons. Hey, with Atlanta's monster needs on the offensive and defensive lines, it may be time to make a push for a lofty draft pick. There are a slew of franchise left tackles in this draft and a host of big-play pass-rushers including South Carolina's Jadeveon Clowney and UCLA outside linebacker Anthony Barr. We love the draft. You know this.

— Your UTC Mocs will open the 2014 football season at Central Michigan, as UTC beat ace Johnny Frierson tells us here.

— ESPN's Brian Griese tells us that Oregon has the best offense in the nation. Wow, you think so doctor? What gave it away, that they are scoring 59-points per game. What's next, Brian, an expose about LeBron James being pretty good at hoops?

— Talk about a double-play, the head coach of Vol State Community College baseball team was arrested for bigamy this week. Talk about putting new meaning when he shouts, "Let's get two," from the dugout, huh?


Today's question

Feel free to weigh in on any of the above.

We can also discuss the sportsmanship topic that was central in today's TFP and highlighted by ace Mark Weidmer's column.

Best and worst sportsmen/women in movie history?

Best sportsman is likely Rocky Balboa — dude helped bring down the Iron Curtain after all. "Mr. Drago, tear down that wall."

Worst sportsman has to be Roy Turner in the Bad News Bears, right? Dude smacked his kid on the field for crying out loud. Turner edges the dude that leads the Cobra Kai who wants to kill Daniel Larusso.


about Jay Greeson...

Jay was named the Sports Editor of the Times Free Press in 2003 and started with the newspaper in May 2002 as the Deputy Sports Editor. He was born and raised in Smyrna, Ga., and graduated from Auburn University before starting his newspaper career in 1997 with the Newnan (Ga.) Times Herald. Stops in Clayton and Henry counties in Georgia and two years as the Sports Editor of the Marietta (Ga.) Daily Journal preceded Jay’s ...

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LaughingBoy said...

Clubber Lang, he killed Mickey.

I hate the Falcons' situation, with Tony Gonzales coming back to try for a Super Bowl win.

October 10, 2013 at 10:20 a.m.
JonathanMCook said...

"Tennessee vs. Virginia Tech at Bristol Motorspeedway? Those are the reports that the teams could take the infield in 2016. Hey, can we get UTC vs. VMI at Boyd's Motorspeedway?"

(No joke) For about 3-5 seconds, I read this and thought "Are these schools plan on fielding a NASCAR team?" And then I realized "Oh, they plan on playing a football game there".

I don't like it. This is not open for discussion (at least as far as my personal take is on the subject).

Sweep the leg.

October 10, 2013 at 10:22 a.m.
chas9 said...

It's a great Saturday for football. Unlike a week ago.

I like interstate rivalries played on or near state boundaries. Kentucky basketball has played Indiana in Louisville and The Cocktail Party (whoops, it slipped out) in Jacksonville is an all-time classic.

So I'm willing to give the proposed match in The Bristol Motor Speedway a chance. As a one-timer, it'd attract hordes who want to be part of a most-ever record event.

But live attendance is off at football games these days, so I doubt they'd fill the place. And because the infield is twice the size of the grass at Neyland, it won't be the best viewing experience, especially from the end zones. The long dimension of the oval is 650 feet, so the closest end zone fan is far away.

And Hokies-Vols isn't the rivalry Dawgs-Gators is. Now a Michael Vick-led Hokies vs. Dawgs would be a real death match.

It'll be a one-off event.

But Boyd's Speedway is great. Try it, if you haven't been lately.

Worst sportsman is Warden Hazen (Eddie Albert), best is "Wrecking" Crew (Burt), assisted by Miss Toot (Bernadette Peters).

October 10, 2013 at 10:29 a.m.
BIspy4 said...

Worst movie sportsman? The dude in Teen Wolf who, even after fouling out, stood on the baseline and tried to intimidate the non-wolfed Michael J. Fox. Yeah, that guy and of course, the one, the only ...

Judge Elihu Smails. Moose, Rocco, help the judge find his wallet.

October 10, 2013 at 11:32 a.m.
jgreeson said...

LB —

Clubber did kill Mick. And he made a rude pass at Adrian. Still, he did not slap his boy at the little league title.

Spy —

Mick? Mick's worse than Roy Turner or Clubber or the coach from One-on-One?


Put me down for a 5.

Who you want, A's or Tigers?

9er —

It is a nice Saturday for match-ups and the like. We're also intrigued to watch the Ducks and the Huskies. Good times.


Excellent 'sweep the leg' usage. Well played sir.

UT-VT playing at Bristol would have been the bee's knees eight years ago. Now, it feels kinda gimmicky.

October 10, 2013 at 11:45 a.m.
chas9 said...

A. J. has a chance to become the first quarterback to hoist three crystal footballs. He throws a pick only every 74.2 attempts, best in SEC history.

He's 30-2 as a starter. His 93.8 winning percentage is a league record. In his last four games, McCarron has completed a sparkling 77.7 percent of his passes for 938 yards and nine touchdowns.

Meanwhile, Kentucky has the third-best passing defense in the SEC. The Cats allow opponents just 195 yards a game through the air, and UK's secondary has given up just four touchdowns this season. Believe it or don't.

Still I expect The Elephants to score a zillion.

And UK will score more than the 10 points Jay asked about.

October 10, 2013 at 12:04 p.m.
jgreeson said...

From friend of the show StuckinKent This Saturday is a little weak on non-SEC games. Oklahoma-Texas is a bit of a dud this year.There is no ABC primetime game. The primetime ESPN games are Ole Miss-Texas A&M and Alabama-Kentucky- not exactly huge games unless the underdog wins. Oregon-Washington is very compelling. LSU-Florida will be fun. On at the same time. Not in primetime. Booooooo......

Tennessee-Virginia Tech will be great. Sure, it's gimmicky. So is calling every Saturday "Showdown Saturday" or whatever. Plus, VT is going to be good that year more than likely. (They're good this year, and really have only had the one down year- last year.) By 2016, Butch Jones will either have the ship turned around, or it will be so far the other direction that the Vols will need the extra income from playing in front of 160,000.

If this game was played in the Georgia Dome and called, I don't know, the Chick-Fil-A Kickoff Game, would we think there was anything wrong with it?

October 10, 2013 at 12:38 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

Clubber was great. He didn't hit Mickey and he offered one of the great lines in the whole Rocky saga when he made an offer to Yo Adrian.

Didn't see One on One. A Robbie Benson movie? Enh.

Now, if you really want a bad sport, try Robert Duvall's character, Bull Meecham, playing basketball with his son in "The Great Santini." Now there's a bad sport.

Hmmm ... face Scherzer and Verlander or the collection of former Red Sox (Crisp, Lowrie, Moss, Reddick, Colon and Rick Wise and Reggie Cleveland may be on that staff too) on the West Coast. Don't really know.

October 10, 2013 at 12:40 p.m.
chas9 said...

Spy--good call on Santini.

October 10, 2013 at 12:58 p.m.
GratefulDawg said...

Vols versus Hokies in Thunder Valley. The World's Largest Outdoor Moonshine Party. It'll be a tough day for the equipment crew. What cleats do you go with that will provide adequate traction on bear grease?

Speaking of that baseball coach at Vol State...You know what the punishment for bigamy is? Two wives. So as not to be accused of plagiarism, I need to cite Gomez Addams as my source for that line.

When Brian Griese dropped that bombshell about Oregon's offense being good, did he manage to shoehorn in a story about his playing days at Michigan?

October 10, 2013 at 2:40 p.m.
jgreeson said...

9er —

We think it's fair to say AJ is on the Rushmore of the best QBs in SEC history to be sure.

Stuck —

We got no problem with gimmicky. But have you seen the super-imposed Neyland inside Bristol? There's going to be some tough viewing for sure.

Spy —

Bull Meachem was an inspired call. And his son Robert Meachem became a fine wide-out at UT later in life.

GD —

Here's hoping the coaches embrace the NASCAR quote machine.

Pit Reporter: Coach Jones, your team struggled out there a little bit today. Can you tell us what happened?

Butch: Sure. It was one of those football deals, really. This UT Pilot Flying J Adidas CheckintoCash Ford has been running on rails lately. But got a little loose in the turn there between the third and fourth quarters. It's one of those things and we know no one's working harder than this team. Pass me a Coke or a PowerAde.

October 10, 2013 at 3:01 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

5, are we gonna hear ...

You know what wins a college football game? Tires.

October 10, 2013 at 3:22 p.m.
jgreeson said...

Spy —

It's all about the tires.

Especially for the Gus Bus.

"Run it. RUN it. RUN IT."

October 10, 2013 at 3:45 p.m.
Stewwie said...

[We think it's fair to say AJ is on the Rushmore of the best QBs in SEC history to be sure.]

That's a bolder statement than it looks. Who else is on this Rushmore? Cam and Tim have to be there too, right? Unless Cam is left off for only playing 1 year. What about Johnny Football and Aaron Murray? And these are guys from only the past 5 years.

October 10, 2013 at 3:55 p.m.
LaughingBoy said...

Mail Question: Does Tony Gonazles consider giving it another year, next year? Jackson, White, Jones, others, should be healthy next season.

October 10, 2013 at 4:17 p.m.
sportsfan said...

Jay - humorous poor sportsmen have to be the Hanson bros in Slapshot. "puttin on the foil". Judge Smalls and Santini were great too. Best sportsman would be Mr Miagi.

October 10, 2013 at 8:58 p.m.
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