published Monday, October 14th, 2013

Portions of Bible often overlooked and other letters to the editors

Portions of Bible often overlooked

There are too many letters to the editors citing Holy Scriptures, insisting there can be no divergence from its requirements, while overlooking issues where there is no adherence by churches today.

St. Paul ordered women be restricted to a seat in the church with no voice, thereby excluding them from offices of elder and deacon. Today, women’s voices are heard not only in their churches but in the proceedings of the Southern Baptist Convention. Nuns joined by sympathizers in the Roman Catholic Church call on the hierarchy for an increased role for women, including ordination. Both Evangelical Lutherans and Episcopalians have women presiding bishops.

Jesus required marriage to be indissoluble, divorce prohibited, and violators who remarry become adulterers. Christians today by and large are not in compliance with this requirement.

While he certainly saw marriage as between one man and woman, he took no stand on homosexuality. Jesus time and again challenged the religious establishment, who insisted on strict adherence to Jewish law, even when enforced to the detriment of its people. Jesus healed on the Sabbath.

Who knows but that he might challenge today’s equivalent of scribes and pharisees. What Christ always saw as paramount was that all should love one another as he loves us.

JOHN BRATTON, Sewanee, Tenn.


Thoughts on debt ceiling

Mr. Wallace, the Democrats (Jack Lew and others) continue to emphasize “not raising the debt ceiling will result in a U.S. default on loans.” Not true! We, the American people, want our debt to be reduced not increased! There is plenty of money coming into the government on a monthly basis to pay most of our expenses and the debt payment would be first on the list; then would come the military, Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, etc.

There would be no default with this approach. Clearly, the Democrats will request, no demand, the debt ceiling to be increased until our debt would be so enormous that a collapse or de-valuation of the dollar would result. When you talk to these so-called-Democrat-economic-experts, please explain to them this non-default model. I’m sure they still wouldn’t understand since it doesn’t fit into their talking points.

RICHARD WILSON, Whispering Pines, N.C.

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anniebelle said...

Mr. Wilson, The Washington Post wishes to dispute your propagandized information.

"Imagine we hit the debt ceiling Feb. 15. The BPC's analysis suggests that federal spending over the next month will be about $450 billion. Federal revenues will be nearer to $277 billion. That means that the government will have to default on about 40 percent of its obligations.

The choices it will face quickly become stark. It can cover interest on the debt, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, defense spending, education, food stamps and other low-income transfers, and a handful of other programs, but doing all that will mean defaulting on everything — really, everything — else. The FBI will shut down. The people responsible for tracking down loose nukes will lose their jobs. The prisons won't operate. The biomedical researchers won't be funded. The court system will close its doors. The tax refunds won't go out. The Federal Aviation Administration will go offline. The parks will close. Food safety inspections will cease.

This is the difference between a debt-ceiling shutdown and a government shutdown. Research at the Bipartisan Policy Center, puts it this way, "in a government shutdown, the government is shutting down future obligations. With the debt ceiling, They've already obligated the money. They owe these people the payments now, and they can't make them."

Then, of course, there's the financial-market chaos. Trillions of dollars in derivatives and other financial products are based on the interest rate that the federal government pays when borrowing. U.S. government debt is, after all, supposed to be the safest investment in the world, and so it's used to "benchmark" all other sorts of debt. A spike in the Treasury rate would mean a spike in credit card rates and mortgage rates, not to mention all manner of more esoteric financial derivatives. The damage to the economy would be tremendous, and it would occur at every level, from individuals looking for a loan to buy a house to hedge funders trying to play the markets.

October 14, 2013 at 5:54 a.m.
conservative said...

JOHN BRATTON, Sewanee, Tenn.

I strongly disagree with just about everything you wrote.

I begin with your:

“There are too many letters to the editors citing Holy Scriptures, insisting there can be no divergence from its requirements, while overlooking issues where there is no adherence by churches today”

True Christians do not diverge from the teachings/doctrines of Scripture. They don’t overlook doctrine and don’t belong to “churches” that do.

The ones who overlook the teachings/doctrines of Scripture are false teachers and false professors of Christianity.

The true Church is made up of the body of believers in Jesus Christ and they are called Christians. The true Church is not a building.

Those who falsely profess to be Christians and who teach contrary to the word of God just meet in a building.

October 14, 2013 at 10:25 a.m.
conservative said...

JOHN BRATTON, Sewanee, Tenn.

Regarding your:

“Jesus required marriage to be indissoluble, divorce prohibited, and violators who remarry become adulterers. Christians today by and large are not in compliance with this requirement.”

You must be in one of those false “churches” where Scripture is not “complied” with.

October 14, 2013 at 10:54 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

Back in the 80s there was a local street preacher who had become all too familiar to most Chattanoogans. Dan Martino was his name. For years he positioned himself at various street corners downtown and preached his message of hellfire and eternal damnation to all non-believers, homosexual and otherwise. Most people, even the Christians themselves, looked upon him as an obnoxious, arrogant, self-righteous charlatan.

Con-man above is our cyber-street-preaching Dan Martino today. And his message is just as hollow and pretentious as what Dan Martino preached years ago. Their BS message doesn't change, only the ones who take it upon themselves to be the obnoxious messengers of it.

October 14, 2013 at 12:23 p.m.
conservative said...

JOHN BRATTON, Sewanee, Tenn.

Regarding your:

“While he certainly saw marriage as between one man and woman, he took no stand on homosexuality.”

Now that is a lie straight out of hell!

One of the essential doctrines of Christianity is that Jesus was God incarnate, meaning that God was manifested in the flesh. One cannot be a Christian and deny that Jesus is God.

This same God condemns Homosexuality throughout Scripture the word of God.

,Lev. 18:22 "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination

Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"

1 Cor. 6:9-10"Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Rom 1: 26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

October 14, 2013 at 12:27 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Dear Mr. JOHN BRATTON,

I do hope You are sincere in Your interpretation of Holy Bible Scriptures.

The historical context of Scripture must be utilized for accurate interpretation.

Jesus Christ chose these women to be female Prophets:

1.Miriam

2.Deborah

3.Huldah

4.Noadiah

5.Isaiah's wife

6.Anna

  1. Saint Phillip's Daughter #1

  2. Saint Phillip's Daughter #2

  3. Saint Phillip's Daughter #3

10.Saint Phillip's Daughter #4

11.(My personal belief) Mary, The Mother of Jesus was a Prophetess.

These women (and many more not named) spoke for The Lord God of Hosts. The loud-mouthed women, (not all women everywhere) disturbing Church services, are who the Apostle Paul told to 'Shut Up!'.

Ken ORR

October 14, 2013 at 5:04 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

It is true, though, that there are no female Apostles. kwo

October 14, 2013 at 5:08 p.m.
conservative said...

JOHN BRATTON, Sewanee, Tenn

Regarding your:

“Jesus time and again challenged the religious establishment, who insisted on strict adherence to Jewish law, even when enforced to the detriment of its people. Jesus healed on the Sabbath.”

It was the perversion of the law by the religious establishment that Jesus condemned. Jesus who was God in the flesh kept the law and was without sin.

The law could not and was never kept by any mere man. The law was impossible to keep by sinful man. It was given to show everyone that he was a sinner in need of Salvation in order that we sinners might turn to Jesus Christ who paid the price for our sins. We are all sinners in need of a Savior!

Man can not earn his Salvation by attempting to keep the law or doing good deeds or works.

Man receives Salvation by accepting Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior. Salvation from the penalty of death for our sins is by faith, not good works.

October 14, 2013 at 6:31 p.m.
LibDem said...

"Salvation from the penalty of death for our sins is by faith, not good works." That's what Rev. Graham always says. Save thyself. Forgedabout the others.

October 15, 2013 at 9:11 a.m.
conservative said...

JOHN BRATTON, Sewanee, Tenn.

Regarding your:

“What Christ always saw as paramount was that all should love one another as he loves us.”

Yes we are commanded to love one another but the Liberals twist that commandment to rationalize their sins such as the gross sin of Homosexuality which you have referred to in your letter.

However, Christians are to put out of the church those who continue to practice homosexuality and are to never condone it.

No Homosexual will ever inherit the Kingdom of God, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10.

October 15, 2013 at 3:27 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Yes! Well done Conservative! Proverbs 11:30... "The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that winneth souls is wise."

Jesus Christ said in Matthew 25:23... "...Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy Lord."

Thank You Conservative...Ken ORR

October 15, 2013 at 11:54 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Jesus Christ said in Matthew 25:23... "...Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy Lord."

October 16, 2013 at midnight
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Regarding October 16, 2013 at midnight post above. Please do a Bible Key Word search on the wonderful things that happened/happens at 'midnight'...kwo

October 16, 2013 at 12:03 a.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Orr, still a liar and fraud. Still hasnt posted his science credentials or his mental health therapist credentials as he promised.

Now Orr and Conservative are throwing kisses at each other.

A liar and fraud offereing thanks to a biblical Charles Manson.

Shame on you, Orr.

October 18, 2013 at 5:45 p.m.
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