published Saturday, October 19th, 2013

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nucanuck said...

Don't be so sure that the Repugs need a spin doctor this time. Because of this debt ceiling fiasco the leaderless Tea Party now has a leader with 56% support among fellow Repugs and about 85% approval among the Tea gulpers. Ted Cruz could actually now be in a position to cruz right into the Repug nomination in 2016. The fact that he was born in Canada seems to not be an issue since his mother was a long-standing American and Cruz has said that he plans to renounce his Canadian citizenship soon.

Cruz seems to be far and hard right on social issues and we can assume that he is prepared to push a severe austerity approach to America's economy since he was willing to bring down the World economy just to make his point in the self-made debt ceiling crisis.

Unlike many mainstream Repugs and Demons, Cruz may not be a neo-conservative, but may be more inline with Libertarian thinking on foreign policy. If so that would be a breath of fresh air.

Cruz seems to be extraordinarily smart, tough as nails, and possibly mean as a snake. We should watch him carefully. He certainly has talent, but he may also be poisonous.

October 19, 2013 at 1:26 a.m.
fairmon said...

The country needs a debt doctor and a dollar doctor. Should the cartoon question be "is there a spend doctor in the house"? Who in government is accountable for the exchange software fiasco and the mega millions it will cost to fix it? How did congress achieve an approval rating as high as 11 percent? Does that mean 11% think they are doing a good job or does it mean that many have no clue what they do? One would think approval would be no higher than the plus or minus polling error rate.

October 19, 2013 at 4:20 a.m.
fairmon said...

nucanuck it is too early to speculate but Cruz will not likely be in the running. The underground slandering and labeling machine is active already with the main stream media participating where they can. It would be a breath of fresh air to see someone currently in the private sector and not in the D.C. circle take the lead in the race representing either party or a third party.

October 19, 2013 at 4:34 a.m.
anniebelle said...

I don't think there's any shortage of spin doctors behind the GOP curtain. They are on the radio, the teevee and the newspapers. I do believe the American public is finally catching on to their chicanery. Except for the totally brainwashed 30% in the country, who are unaware of their tricks to steal the wealth of this country and put it in their pockets, leaving us the 99% holding an empty bag.

October 19, 2013 at 5:42 a.m.
fairmon said...

anniebelle...if you CPA career earnings and your husbands paying max social security and medical for over 45 years each then you are not in the 99% or you are as bad managing money as those idiots in D.C.

I still haven't heard why you are so opposed to those in congress doing what the constitution allows and as they represent in the best way possible those electing them. Was their behavior illegal? I am not sure shutting down, defaulting and getting the pain over with is not the right thing to do for the country.

Check out each dynasty in history and how their demise came about. The nominal life of a dynasty is 200 years plus or minus a few years. Debt and a growing control all government brought each of them down. We are just past 200 years. Read the rhetoric and the promises of those in government as they declined. There is a good reason for studying history but we don't do that very well.

October 19, 2013 at 6:22 a.m.
fairmon said...

anniebelle...Are you willing to pay more taxes to achieve a balanced budget and provide for those in the 47% that receive the most assistance and pay no federal income tax? What percent tax increase are you willing to pay to sustain the current burn rate?

October 19, 2013 at 6:26 a.m.
degage said...

Here is something to make your head spin, Frist day of open government, debt reached 17,075 trillion, a rise of 328 billion in one day. The highest ever was 2 years go 238 billion in one day. So fairmon , anniebelle might have to ante up her fair share, and so will those in the 47%.

Obama says raising debt limit won't increase the debt. I wonder what planet he lives on.

October 19, 2013 at 7:30 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

nuckanuck, here is to hoping Cruz, gets the red party nomination and runs, even if he is ineligible. (He isn't a natural born American citizen.) If it happens it will ensure a democratic victory.

October 19, 2013 at 8:19 a.m.
limric said...

Pretty good Clay. The curtain should however show 1/2 of each animal; spattered with thrown vegetables.

The Republicans & Democratic Party's propagandists (spin doctors) can frame the debate, the fate, the direction of the empire in many a diversion, but far and away THE MOST important issue before us all is succinctly stated by Pat Buchanan below.

"Since George H. W. Bush, we have run $10 trillion+ in trade deficits no one mentions but can be seen in the gleaming cities of Asia and East China and the corroded and collapsing infrastructure of America."

Our representatives (leaders?) have become utterly corrupt, ineffective, and I posit guilty of criminal malfeasance. Other countries can hold a vote of no confidence. Alas, we have nothing like that here. Our electoral system is supposed to, through elections, remove ineffective politicians, but the reality shows again & again we elect (as a result 'spin') politicians - who have proven over & over - they are only loyal to their masters; multi nationals and Wall Street. Main St. not - at - all !

["Both parties practice dishonest, divisive politics aimed at dividing and manipulating public opinion instead of seeking to build an honest national consensus on important issues confronting our nation.”]. ~From J.R. Martins book, 'Selling U.S. Out'

As Dylan Ratigan said, "We are being extracted!"

"Check out each dynasty in history and how their demise came about." ~Fairmon Wise words indeed.

October 19, 2013 at 8:34 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

anniebelle: Funny you mention brainwashed. You obama sycophants should recognize brainwashed when you see it. Greatest scam ever pulled on our country...thanks to your ilk

October 19, 2013 at 8:39 a.m.
degage said...

Limric, Sometimes you make so much sense. Both parties are spin masters, and their constituents follow them like sheep.

October 19, 2013 at 8:40 a.m.
tderng said...

Look behind the curtain with the donkey on it,and you will find the absolute Masters of spin,along with their acolytes the American Press.

October 19, 2013 at 9:04 a.m.
rick1 said...

I notice Clay refuses to address the issues with ObamaCare but at least MSNBC is covering for Obama when they displayed a graphic that falsely claimed Republicans flubbed the launch of Obamacare.

We know Clay will also ignore the legal problems surrounding the copy right issues with the software the ObamaCare website is using. Over $600 million was spent on this system and it doesn't work and they stole copyright information, which I'm sure they will be sued over.

Then we have people that actually believe the problem with ObamaCare is George Bush fault. I bet anniebelle is one of those people that blames, Bush, Reagan, Ted Cruz, The Tea Party and anyone else who does not like ObamaCare. They should all be tried and hanged right annie.

http://www.examiner.com/article/propaganda-msnbc-graphic-falsely-claims-gop-flubs-obamacare-launch

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obamacare-website-violates-licensing-agreement-copyrighted-software_763666.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2013/10/obamacare-contractors-are-falling-ill-and-fainting-in-conference-calls-because-they-cant-keep-up-with-demand-to-fix-the-programs-glitches-copyright-violations-old-2560872.html

October 19, 2013 at 9:14 a.m.
limric said...

(The) "Greatest scam ever pulled on our country...thanks to your ilk"

OHHH - You mean the Iraq war? Or the Wall St./bank bailouts (aka the'Emergency Economic Stabilization Act') of 2008?

Is that what you're trying to say PlainTruth?

October 19, 2013 at 9:20 a.m.
alprova said...

"I am not sure shutting down, defaulting and getting the pain over with is not the right thing to do for the country."

After offering such a statement, I question you making your claim of living off of investments.

If there is one sector of the economy that would have taken a very bad beating, had the debt ceiling not been raised, it would be each and every American who has investments.

Anyone invested Internationally, as I believe you have stated also, could have been wiped out.

The world is nervous enough about the dollar being used as the International currency standard by which all other currencies are traded on International markets.

Your Libertarian values are in direct conflict with your Capitalistic claims.

You seem to wish for our Government and the U.S. dollar to fail.

October 19, 2013 at 9:25 a.m.
degage said...

My question is why hire a Canadian Co for the web site. The Canadians even have a problem with that company. I guess my answer, this administration is incompetent. Solar company's backed by Obama then go bankrupt shortly after, now hiring a company that can't produce results after 600 million.

October 19, 2013 at 9:28 a.m.
degage said...

good one caddy.

October 19, 2013 at 9:44 a.m.
alprova said...

There seems to be no shortage of people willing to continue their criticism of ObamaCare.

Rick, from your own sources, there appears to have been 5.68 million people who visited the individual marketplace offerings over the first five days following the ObamaCare roll out.

Is there a website anywhere in the world that has ever had that kind of traffic in five days? I seriously doubt it.

Of course there have been problems. Of course it will take time to overcome some of the glitches.

What is absent in writings by all the detractors, and that which is lacking from all of these articles of criticism, are any mention of the pricing, which is favorable for those who have signed up.

I tried to sign up the other night, and I received the expected result for my attempt, which was that I personally was not eligible for an ObamaCare policy.

I received a message that I was only eligible for Medicare and possibly Medicaid, and my information would be transmitted to those agencies.

I do have one bone to pick with the HHS. A great deal of time and effort was given to the issue of illegal immigrants not being eligible for ObamaCare policies.

During my registration, the system was unable to match my wife's name to her Social Security number. A question popped up asking if she was a natural citizen of the United States, with a disclaimer that if she wasn't, it would not preclude her from eligibility.

Maybe it was a glitch. Maybe I read it incorrectly, but I was able to go back and reenter her information and straighten out the conflict and proceed with the signup.

However, because I was disqualified, there appeared no way to proceed to find out what plans were available for my wife.

I'll be checking back in a few weeks, after they fix some of the bugs.

October 19, 2013 at 9:54 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

Alpo: Please do check back....they just needed a tad more time. bwahahaha

limric: no, I'm talking about the 2 time scam that is His Organizationist, BHO. Never has one so ill-trained, ill-suited, ill tempered, ill equipped, been elected. Twice. More and more are recognizing. Will always be James Jones type sheep such as your self hanging on.

October 19, 2013 at 10:05 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

rick1, Please get your facts straight. Apparently, a piece of free, publicly available, open-source code from a British company is used in the ACA software and the attribution to the open source license was omitted. That can be fixed by simply adding a comment line to the code to display the appropriate information.

October 19, 2013 at 10:07 a.m.
rick1 said...

Al posted "What is absent in writings by all the detractors, and that which is lacking from all of these articles of criticism, are any mention of the pricing, which is favorable for those who have signed up"

Check the links below for concerns on the high prices for ObamaCare.

Al you posted "I do have one bone to pick with the HHS. A great deal of time and effort was given to the issue of illegal immigrants not being eligible for ObamaCare policies."

Do you believe illegals should be eligible or they shouldn't and you are upset with all the time and effort spent on this issue?

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-10-13/business/ct-biz-1013-obamacare-deductibles-20131013_1_health-care-overhaul-health-insurance-health-coverage

https://www.facebook.com/Healthcare.gov

October 19, 2013 at 10:19 a.m.
limric said...

PlainTruth,

Mmm nice try.

There really is no competition. G.W. Bush claims the ”Never has one so ill-trained, ill-suited, ill tempered, ill equipped, been elected twice” trophy by leaps and bounds.

How’s the Scientology training coming along?

October 19, 2013 at 10:44 a.m.
rick1 said...

inquiriinmind,

Yes it is a free but to use it you must comply by keeping the copy right notice in the software.

Under the Healthcare.org website the opening lines of the script appear with all of the copyrighted references to the author and SpryMedia deleted. Our government did not keep the copy right notice in the software and can be sued for this. Those are the facts.

October 19, 2013 at 10:45 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said....

If there is one sector of the economy that would have taken a very bad beating, had the debt ceiling not been raised, it would be each and every American who has investments.

As much or more can be made in a falling market as an erratic up market. George Soros is just one example of gaining mega wealth when a country was in distress. He was short selling the currency of Britain until he covered the short sell with billions profit.

October 19, 2013 at 11:10 a.m.
hambone said...

Good morning folks, did you miss me. lol

Some people give too much credit to the Tea Party. Their influence is less than 2% of the total number of voters in 2012. Not exactly a overwhelming mandate, HUH!

October 19, 2013 at 11:14 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said....

Your Libertarian values are in direct conflict with your Capitalistic claims.

Libertarians are not opposed to free market capitalism and accept lassiz-faire. French for “Let (people) do (as they choose).” It describes a system or point of view that opposes regulation or interference by the government in economic affairs beyond the minimum necessary to allow the free enterprise system to operate according to its own laws.

October 19, 2013 at 11:19 a.m.
nucanuck said...

IM, don't be so sure that Cruz would be easy to defeat in 2016. If the economy is still under-performing or worse, which now seems likely, then all things are possible. When the national unhappiness quotient is high, voters may not behave with any predictability.

Cruz would be more than a match for Hillary in any debate and Hillary has plenty of baggage after her stint as Secretary of State. She is heavily financed by the big money interests and that alone could become an albatross around her neck.

Cruz scares the hell out of me, but he fits the description of a strong candidate, and that is likely what the country would turn to in a time of crisis.

I see Ted Cruz and Elizabeth Warren as the two strongest potential candidates who are also independent of the DC influence peddlers. Unless someone new emerges, it looks like the rest are simply more of the same ol' same ol'.

October 19, 2013 at 11:21 a.m.
nucanuck said...

fairmon, I would agree that the country would be better off to deal with the hard economic truth sooner rather than later, but I see zero chance of that happening. Almost anything could and would crash this economy because it has extended way to far to save. No Central Banker or politician wants to be the one to push the economy over the edge and into the abyss. We will likely have to wait for the black swan to give us that final push into chaos.

I think that I favor a debt jubilee, but it rankles me that under that scenario those who owe the most, benefit the most. Since the government owes the most and they will likely be the decider, a jubilee remains a good possibility and that would hurt the masses the least. ( Not to say that chaos wouldn't ensue.)

October 19, 2013 at 11:38 a.m.
eym_sirius said...

I'm pretty sure that the TeaPartyGOP Co-brand needs a spin-doctor, or maybe a spin witch-doctor! See, what they've tried to do is this: Shutdown the Government, default on the debt, which would crash the economy, decimate our credit rating, thus raising interest rates and devaluing the dollar - All of this would cost our government TRILLIONS in the name of what they call "fiscal responsibility".Consider that instead of fighting universal healthcare and costing us billions/trillions (since the fight isn't over)in collateral damage costs and penalties -- We could be spending the money on - Universal Healthcare!!

October 19, 2013 at 11:48 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

Limmie: Dubya a governor and a bidnessman. Barry an organizer and a "present" voting Senator. (briefly) You must be kidding. As for Scientology, wouldn'd know. Seems like a scam, tho.

October 19, 2013 at 12:23 p.m.
hambone said...

You can't spin the crap the Tea Party puts out. You can only stir it to increase the stink!

October 19, 2013 at 1:10 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

What's that hambone? Lower taxes? Smaller gubmint?

October 19, 2013 at 1:55 p.m.
anniebelle said...

fairmon, I appreciate your interest in my financial affairs. Trust me I have plenty of money to take care of myself and my family. I paid the top of my bracket, unlike Romney, et al. I did not divert any funds to trust funds, overseas accounts or any tax shelters. How 'bout we stick to the topic at hand, my finances have nothing to do with any of this so you can quit with the red herring.

To rick1's comment about the Affordable Care Act. I have never mentioned one way or the other what I think about it, so you can quit with your false allegations. I think it will be a step in the right direction for this country once it is fully in place. Unlike the repugs, I would like to see everyone have access in this country like they do in other more civilized countries.

October 19, 2013 at 3:37 p.m.
Renfield said...

My ilk? It's fine. Yours?

October 19, 2013 at 5:05 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

limric said...

(The) "Greatest scam ever pulled on our country...thanks to your ilk"

OHHH - You mean the Iraq war? Or the Wall St./bank bailouts (aka the'Emergency Economic Stabilization Act') of 2008?

Is that what you're trying to say PlainTruth?

Even though I opposed the TARP program you are obvious overselling its “financial” impact and underselling its “political” impact. Odd that you didn’t include all of our Mid-East and North African activities as “Scams”.... I wonder why.

http://www.treasury.gov/initiatives/financial-stability/reports/Documents/December%202012%20Monthly%20Report%20to%20Congress.pdf

Monthly 105(a) Report December 2012

The Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) was established pursuant to the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 (EESA). More than four years after the establishment of the TARP, we are making substantial progress in winding down the extraordinary assistance that had to be provided during the crisis. Treasury has continued to work to reduce the dependence of the financial system on emergency assistance and replace public support with private capital.

As of the end of calendar year 2012, taxpayers have recovered more than $387 billion – or nearly 93 percent – of the $418 billion ($31 billion loss... although I think this is padded a bit and is actually about $15 billion low - Jt) in TARP funds disbursed to date. And taxpayers have so far realized a $23 billion positive return on their investments through TARP’s bank programs. Treasury has recovered $268 billion from TARP’s bank programs through repayments, dividends, interest, and other income – compared to the $245 billion invested in those institutions. (Net loss $8 to $23 billion ... Hardly the greatest scam ever - Jt).**

By any objective standards, the Troubled Asset Relief Program has worked: it helped stop widespread financial panic, it helped prevent what could have been a devastating collapse of our financial system, and it did so at a cost that is far less than what most people expected at the time the law was passed. (I only agree with the latter - Jt)

October 19, 2013 at 5:06 p.m.
degage said...

Wow, annie, more civilized countries? If you hate America so much why not take all that money you have and move to one of them? We wouldn't want you to live in an uncivilized Country.

If I remember right Nacanuck did just that.

October 19, 2013 at 5:18 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

"more civilized country".....you see, annie, statements like that are what make most americans sick.

October 19, 2013 at 5:22 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

Renfield said...

My ilk? It's fine. Yours?

So the penicillin did clear that up after all?

October 19, 2013 at 5:24 p.m.
fairmon said...

anniebelle said...

fairmon, I appreciate your interest in my financial affairs. Trust me I have plenty of money to take care of myself and my family. I paid the top of my bracket, unlike Romney, et al. I did not divert any funds to trust funds, overseas accounts or any tax shelters.

I didn't ask any question about your finances I simply made the point you are not in the needy category with the 47% or 99% as some like to use. I did ask other on topic questions and like a politician you reacted indignantly and avoided all the difficult questions.

Are those tax shelters illegal? It is nice of you to donate and not utilize available government provided vehicles for protecting your income. I have to say I am not that benevolent with tax money and will avoid paying every penny I can legally avoid. But, I do donate more per year to charities than most peoples income. The government, as again recently proven, is the most inefficient way to deliver any service or assistance.

October 19, 2013 at 5:27 p.m.
degage said...

Yes, PT sick of the BS.

October 19, 2013 at 5:28 p.m.
fairmon said...

anniebelle said....

I would like to see everyone have access in this country like they do in other more civilized countries.

Venezuela, Zimbabwe and several north African countries provide access to the healthcare they have. You have a lot of options if you want to live in a "more civilized" country where everyone has access to any available healthcare and there is no debate or disagreement on how things should be or what governments role should or should not be.

October 19, 2013 at 5:37 p.m.
fairmon said...

anniebelle said....

I would like to see everyone have access in this country like they do in other more civilized countries.

You go girl, we do need to be "more civilized". Damn the constitution, freedom of speech, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and crap like that. To heck with no taxation without representation, just pay your taxes and be quiet and do not expect your elected representative to support your opinion just because that is why you voted for them. Never, never, never object to a law, just support and obey is the civilized way.

Did I capture your opinion of more civilized accurately?

October 19, 2013 at 5:45 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

nucanuck said...

The fact that he was born in Canada seems to not be an issue since his mother was a long-standing American and Cruz has said that he plans to renounce his Canadian citizenship soon.

Renouncing his Canadian citizenship would have no legal impact on his eligibility to run for president. I personally do not think he qualifies as a “natural born citizen” just as I don’t think that anchor babies do as well. The SCOTUS needs to rule definitively on this subject as it is going to arise more and more often in our presidential politics. As it stands now an anchor baby could be taken from this country a few days after birth only to return in adulthood and be eligible to run for president with no real experiences as an American.

Cruz seems to be far and hard right on social issues and we can assume that he is prepared to push a severe austerity approach to America's economy since he was willing to bring down the World economy just to make his point in the self-made debt ceiling crisis.

”bring down the World economy” - I guess since there’s not enough “drama” up there in that boring a%% country you have to generate your own.

October 19, 2013 at 5:47 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

alprova said...

There seems to be no shortage of people willing to continue their criticism of ObamaCare.

Rick, from your own sources, there appears to have been 5.68 million people who visited the individual marketplace offerings over the first five days following the ObamaCare roll out.

Is there a website anywhere in the world that has ever had that kind of traffic in five days? I seriously doubt it.

Are you implying that your number of 5.68 million visitors is a sign of approval for Obamacare? I would say that’s not so as a significant number of people are just visiting the site out of general interest and not to sign up. I have visited it several times as have several people I communicated with and none had any intention of signing up for coverage. You would hope a system that wishes to control our healtcare system could have been prepared, after 3 1/2 years of preparation, for this kind of traffic.

Of course there have been problems. Of course it will take time to overcome some of the glitches.

What is absent in writings by all the detractors, and that which is lacking from all of these articles of criticism, are any mention of the pricing, which is favorable for those who have signed up.

Then mention some.

October 19, 2013 at 6:08 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

“You don't like a particular policy or a particular president? Then argue for your position””. Go out there and win an election. Push to change it.** But don't break it. Don't break what our predecessors spent over two centuries building. That's not being faithful to what this country's about.” - Obama

The political process, for Obama, is not about debate. He won re-election, and his re-election is the only election that matters, even though House Republicans and Senate Republicans also won elections. Elections certainly have consequences – but for President Obama, the only consequence to his re-election victory is the ability to ram through his agenda without any serious opposition from those who disagree with him.

By Ben Shapiro

October 19, 2013 at 6:19 p.m.
alprova said...
October 19, 2013 at 8:19 p.m.
degage said...

Al, media maters? couldn't find a site more liberal, but then that is all you libs know how to read. You don't want to see the other side.

October 19, 2013 at 8:31 p.m.
scrimshaw said...

degage said...

"Al, media maters? couldn't find a site more liberal, but then that is all you libs know how to read. You don't want to see the other side."

Did you even bother to read Al's link? Just because you think it's a "liberal site" doesn't change the fact that " Fox News Obamacare Victims Aren't Victims At All" is the truth.(which we all know "has a well known liberal bias")

October 19, 2013 at 9:24 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

anniebelle said...

fairmon, I appreciate your interest in my financial affairs. Trust me I have plenty of money to take care of myself and my family. I paid the top of my bracket, unlike Romney, et al. I did not divert any funds to trust funds, overseas accounts or any tax shelters. How 'bout we stick to the topic at hand, my finances have nothing to do with any of this so you can quit with the red herring.

We wouldn’t know about your finances if you hadn’t bragged about them here. You didn’t pay the top bracket on your earns and I doubt on an accountant's income (if you actually were one) you even paid a small segment of your income at that level. If you have not set up any trust funds for your children or grandchildren then you are negligent in providing for their future.

To rick1's comment about the Affordable Care Act. I have never mentioned one way or the other what I think about it, so you can quit with your false allegations. I think it will be a step in the right direction for this country once it is fully in place. Unlike the repugs, I would like to seeeveryone have access in this country like they do in other more civilized countries.

Well, now you have taken a position so we will know how to appropriately direct our allegations directed at you.

October 19, 2013 at 9:50 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

hambone said...

Good morning folks, did you miss me. lol

Some people give too much credit to the Tea Party. Their influence is less than 2% of the total number of voters in 2012. Not exactly a overwhelming mandate, HUH!

If only 2% of voters can cause you Fleabaggers this much trouble you must be some weak a%% victim's.

October 19, 2013 at 9:51 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Pat Caddell, a democratic strategist, has this to say...In a speech given at an Accuracy in Media conference in September, former Democratic strategist and pollster Pat Caddell warned that the mainstream media has become "the enemy of the American people," Newsbusters' Noel Sheppard reported on Sunday.

"The press’s job is to stand in the ramparts and protect the liberty and freedom of all of us from a government and from organized governmental power," he said.

"When they desert those ramparts and decide that they will now become active participants, that their job is not simply to tell you who you may vote for, and who you may not, but, worse—and this is the danger of the last two weeks—what truth that you may know, as an American, and what truth you are not allowed to know, they have, then, made themselves a fundamental threat to the democracy, and, in my opinion, made themselves the enemy of the American people," he added. He went on to say the the media is an "offshoot" of the administration.

October 19, 2013 at 10:03 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

scrimshaw said...

the truth which we all know "has a well known liberal bias”

I thought you relativist Fleabaggers hold that representations of physical and biological reality, including race, sexuality, gender, etc. are “social constructs.” After all there are no truth but the Fleabagger truth ... as it’s all relative ... Right? As a result your biased truths should receive the respect they deserve ... “Squat”.

October 19, 2013 at 10:37 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

ibshame said...

It never occured to me, the more sane Repubs wouldn't step up to the plate (as the ones did in the 60's during the Civil Rights Struggle)and shut the loonies down but they didn't and as a result they have allowed the teabaggers to send the rest of the Repubs adrift in a sea of stupidity and ignorance.

I think if you would check your history, those on the wrong side of that struggle had “D” after their name. No they didn’t just switch to “R” as most of them rode the “jacka%%” to their death. They may have been bigots and racists but they were also statists that believed in big government. The Fleabagger establishment held them in contempt but they were accommodated as long as they were useful for increasing government control.You know ... like Senator Byrd.

Hypocrites like you and the rest of the teabagger klan just can't get over the fact you've been beaten by President Obama at every turn.

If he has beaten the Tea Party at every turn then why all the whining from you Fleabaggers about him not being able to institute his divine programs. You know, the ones that will “fundamentally transform” this country into a socialist utopia, because the Tea Party and Republicans have obstructed his efforts.

October 19, 2013 at 10:40 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

anniebelle said...

You don't like the term teabagger, you don't like the term uneducated hillbillies, so if I called them the name they truly rate, I would not be allowed on this board.

I encourage you moronic low life scumbag Fleabaggers to call Tea Party members “Teabaggers” as it gives me licence to address you in any faction I please and still be guilt free.

October 19, 2013 at 10:42 p.m.
scrimshaw said...

Jt6gR3hM, there is no "relative truth" in the subject being discussed,only the facts showing that Foxnews "obamacare victims" were lying.

October 19, 2013 at 11:41 p.m.
anniebelle said...

jt, the fist one, teabagger that is, I ever saw was an old man with tea bags hanging off his hat, sitting next to an old woman wearing the same garb. If the shoe fits, wear it.

October 20, 2013 at 5:46 a.m.
anniebelle said...

fairmon, NO you didn't even come close to capturing it. fairmon said: The government, as again recently proven, is the most inefficient way to deliver any service or assistance. You're right the churches and the self-proclaimed do-gooders do a much better job. They think the only meals these poor people deserve is on Thanksgiving Day and Christmas Day, and run around patting themselves on the back for their 'good deed'. Surprise, surprise, the poor eat (or at least try to) everyday just like the rest of.

October 20, 2013 at 5:47 a.m.
anniebelle said...

wow, degage, did you not realize we are not at the top of the ladder when the ratings come in for civilized countries. Who knew? All those points you listed sound good on paper, now if we would only put them out here in reality. You can do just fine in this country as along as you're white, had the right mommy and daddy, and your overall satisfaction with life is derived from owning 'things', and you never lost your bootstraps. That's a real 'amuriken'.

October 20, 2013 at 5:54 a.m.
degage said...

OK annie, you have three countries to chose from. New Zeland, Australia, or Norway. Have at it. I'm sure you would be much happier in any of them. I was raise in the north and went to school with all different races, we got along just fine and when the progressives stop trying to make everything about race this country would be better off. People are only victims when they allow themselves to be victims. You progressives want the blacks to think they are victims so your ilk can control them.

October 20, 2013 at 6:26 a.m.
anniebelle said...

That seems to be the patented answer from you control freaks -- "why don't you move"? My question is, why don't you move to Yemen, Somalia or Iran? They seem to have the attributes you're so desperately seeking. As far as 'controlling' someone, I don't want to 'control' anyone but myself. That's why I'm not a Republican. I'm out the door now to do my nasty, nefarious, Communist/Socialist/Fascist duties. See ya' later.

October 20, 2013 at 7:02 a.m.
degage said...

I'm truly laughing, Republicans are for freedom not government control. You say you don't want to control anyone but your posts say different. Your posts say you want government to control every aspect of the lives of the Americans. Much like the third world countries you mentioned. You are not a republican because you are all for big government. Obama is all about power and if you can't see that you are blind.

October 20, 2013 at 7:14 a.m.
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