published Sunday, October 27th, 2013

Shutdown and a mirror and other letters to the editors

Shutdown and a mirror

Now that the smoke has cleared and the dust settled on this totally un-American shutdown of our government, Republicans are pointing fingers at anybody but themselves. Go look in the mirror — there’s the culprit.

Thanks to this clown car full of so-called representatives of the American people, we have lost about $24 billion. And that is just the tip of the iceberg. What we have lost in credibility and standing in the world cannot even be measured. We have had, for many years, a system in this country where the winning party gets to put their policies in place. This GOP circus was anarchy, pure and simple. The treasonous Republicans didn’t get their way, so they decided to shut our government down, no matter how many innocent people’s lives were ruined.

I hope everybody remembers this in the mid-terms.

ANN BENTON, Signal Mountain


Don’t believe all you read

In responding to the commentary Oct. 10, ‘Getting What You Pay For’ by the director of the Center for Union Facts and operator of Worker Centers has misinformed your readers. It is a perfect example of don’t believe everything you read. Black Lake Country Club, although owned by the UAW, is operated as a public golf course. It is rated as one of the top 100 golf clubs in the nation, and a mecca in the top 50 for women golfers.

That is extreme to say union dues paid from employees at VW would be a debt crisis savior of the club. The writer’s liberal description of the golf club tells me he has played the course many times.

Tennessee is the second poorest state in the union. Unions built the middle class, created better educational institutions and let moms stay home and raise their children.

What’s wrong with that style?

HELEN MALMQUIST Cleveland, Tenn.


Get parking rules right

I struggle with driving down different roads in our city and coming up to a Fedex or UPS truck just stopped in the middle of the road.

The thing that irritates me the most is that the other day I got a ticket for “obstructing traffic”; my car was apparently more than the allowed 12 inches from the curb. So my question is — instead of parking at a meter and paying it, should I instead just park in the middle of the road and say I’m making a “delivery”?

Come on, parking authority. Get this right, please.

MARK STEPHENS


Democrats push illogical positions

In letters on Oct .13, a lot of venom was spewed toward conservatives from some regular liberal writers.

Using the normal tactics of attack, blame, divide — and name-calling —very classy.

But you can’t avoid facts, though.

Obamacare is anything but affordable, and if it is so attractive, why are there thousands of exemptions, including Congress?

Cities like Detroit, Stockton and San Bernadino are bankrupt and were run into the gound by liberal Democrats.

For every Koch brother, you have a Soros, Pritzker or Bloomberg, so the next billionaire blamed might very well be a Democrat.

Liberalism thinking that taxpayers’ money somehow grows on trees is irrational and irresponsible. Would a liberal borrow 40 percent of every dollar spent?

I’m sorry, but with illogical positions like that, liberals simply have no argument.

WARREN DANIEL


Drug fight needs major overhaul

In response to the Oct. 9 front page story, “Drug Babies on Rise,” I believe Tennessee and our nation have miserably lost the “War on Drugs.” Our state leads the country in methamphetamine use. The number of our state’s drug-addicted newborn babies is horrific — 643 babies so far this year.

From babies to senior citizens and every age in between, illegal drugs destroy lives. A few pages over from the baby story, there was another about an 89-year old Detroit man who was arrested for transporting cocaine.

Drug-related crime is increasing. Our prisons are overflowing. Our nation’s 40-year, $1 trillion drug-reform effort has failed. We need to “Just Say No” to our current policy. We don’t need small changes or adjustments; we need major overhauls and a completely new approach to this issue.

JOY KRAUSE


Both parties share the blame

We the taxpayers and citizens of the best country in the world would like the truth. We have too political parties that are blaming one another for our problems. I believe both are trying to fool ordinary people. They ought to learn we are not dumb.

I would like to ask one question. Why do we have to cut funds for current programs like our handicapped veterans, Social Security to our seniors and lay off federal employees while continuing salaries to senators and representatives, keeping their health centers with exercise rooms and swimming pools? Who makes this decision, Democrats or Republicans?

I am an independent voter who tries to elect good men who offer to do best for our country. Both should share the blame and put our country back on solid ground.

HARRY E. ARNOLD


Why defund Obamacare?

A friend of mine who is a liberal called and asked me how I could be a conservative after what the Republicans were doing to shut down the government and defund Obamacare.

My response was perhaps ObamaCare will bankrupt our country and we should choose another plan that everyone could understand. He said the bill passed and conservatives should accept it. My response was, then it should be good for everyone.

The Constitution states Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the senators and representatives and Congress shall make no law that applies to the senators and representatives of the United States that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States.

The president has given waivers for his cronies and big business, and our lawmakers are exempt. So I said to him, is this equality for everyone, and maybe this is why us conservatives want to defund ObamaCare.

TOM FRICKE, Spring City, Tenn.


Primaries are fair play

“We will primary you.”

That’s the threat being made against Republicans who fail to follow tea party anti-government dogma. And we’ve just witnessed that dogma in action. Authorities say $24 billion was wasted on this pointless show of pique — money that could have repaired hundreds of bridges, built thousands of schools or fed millions of children. But what should we expect when voters send candidates to Congress who run on an anti-government platform?

They don’t go there to govern but rather destroy the ability of government to govern. That’s what they mean when they say things like, “Government needs to get out of the way.” That was the campaign mantra of our own representative, who voted to shut government down on Sept. 30, and then voted to keep government closed and default on our national debt on Wednesday night.

The voters of the 3rd District won’t soon forget that Chuck Fleischmann helped rob this country of $24 billion. And come next August, we will primary you!

PJ WRIGHT, Harrison


All children created by God

A letter from a social worker on Oct. 20 says the law goes too far in making a woman seeking an abortion look at the ultrasound of her unborn baby. She stated some women “feel bad enough about having an abortion, but they don’t have any other options.”

Having adopted two of our children, I know there are at least two other options — adoption and help through such groups as crisis pregnancy centers or churches. Our church has helped single moms and provided assistance for families wishing to adopt. Most of these adoptions cross racial and cultural lines.

There are two world views here which collide — humanism and God’s. Humanism tells us it’s all about a woman’s right to choose. God’s word tells us in Revelation 4:11 that God created all things and “because of Thy will they existed and were created.” There are accidental parents, but there are no accidental children. Each child is created by God for his glory.

SANDY HARRIS, Lookout Mountain, Ga.

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anniebelle said...

Tom Fricke, why do you put pen to paper to send out Faux News talking points. None of what you said is true, and for those with a computer, look it up. Members of Congress have good health insurance by any standard, but it’s not free and not reserved only for them – and it’s not government insurance. House and Senate members are allowed to purchase private health insurance offered through the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program, which covers more than 8 million other federal employees, retirees and their families.

It’s not a “single-payer” system where the government acts as the one and only health insurance company. As President Bush’s chief of personnel Kay Coles James said in 2003, while lecturing at the conservative Heritage Foundation, “the FEHB program is not centralized, government-run health care.” It has drawn praise both from conservatives and liberals, including President Obama, who held it up as a model for his own health care proposals.

October 27, 2013 at 5:52 a.m.
anniebelle said...

Ms. Harris, believe it or not, there are some that live out here in reality and don’t believe your fantasy, lala land stories. There are orphanages and foster homes full of children that either their mother could not take care of, or they were born terribly deformed and were warned by their doctors of this fact (take a visit out to Orange Grove and you will see them en masse, it’s heartbreaking). Not every mother-to-be has access to the kind of support you’re proclaiming. And your statement: “There are accidental parents, but there are no accidental children. Each child is created by God for his glory.” I assume you’re including all mass murderers and child molesters in that category. They were all just babes in the womb at some point too. I must say your God has a sick sense of glory.

October 27, 2013 at 6:16 a.m.
LibDem said...

Mr. TOM FRICKE, you may have confused the U.S.Constitution with the strange version in your head. It happens.

"...we should choose another plan that everyone could understand." We're waiting to hear this plan.

October 27, 2013 at 8:45 a.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Sandy Harris wrote: "God’s word tells us in Revelation 4:11 that God created all things and “because of Thy will they existed and were created.”

Since there are over 3,000 different gods I'll assume you're talking about Jehovah. Here's what else your Jehovah said.

"He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD."Deuteronomy 23:1

"And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." -- Numbers 31:15-18

"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. -- Psalm 137:9"

"Their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up." Hosea 13:16

Funny ol' Jehovah. Can't seem to make up his little psychopathic mind!

October 27, 2013 at 10 a.m.
moon4kat said...

Helen Malmquist, thank you for an intelligent letter about the virtues of unions for workers. And, to those who rant that TN is a "right to work" state, I ask why they want to deny workers the right to work as members of a union. Workers have fought for the right to unionize in order to protect themselves and preserve decent working conditions. Corporate executives collectively make decisions for their own benefit; line workers should have an organization that represents their interests at the table.

October 27, 2013 at 10:24 a.m.
ToHoldNothing said...

Humanism is not by nature anti Christian. Your target is secular humanism, though even that isn't saying that abortion should be the final solution. Proper sex education nips the problem in the bud much more effectively than the more expensive abortion procedures

October 27, 2013 at 1:41 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Secular humanism has no problem with faith, ignorant as it often is. Faith, in and of itself, is not debatable, whether that faith is some deity creating the Big Bang or using talking serpents in myths.

One can have faith in a Jehovah or a Porky Pig. In faith, both are equal.

But secular humanism does not agree that faith (religious revelation) is factual, explains nature, mathematics, logic, and morality.

When religions go beyond faith into claims of reality that's where the problem starts.

You're entitled to your faith, but not making your faith a literal truth to be forced on others, taught as science, and used authority to create a theocracy, nor to enforce your beliefs of certain morality on others.

October 27, 2013 at 2:41 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

I usually like to offer my two cents' worth on religion but I don't think I can put it any more eloquently or sensibly than you just did, daytonsdarwin. Excellent post.

October 28, 2013 at 2:18 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

"Proper sex education nips the problem in the bud much more effectively than the more expensive abortion procedures." - ToHoldNothing

Good point. Yet, the "pro-lifers," for the most part, are all opposed to sex education, easy access to birth control, or anything, other than abstinence, that prevents abortion in the first place. Go figure.

October 28, 2013 at 2:26 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

In another thread, someone mentioned Orange Grove School. These individuals live with mental retardation. Below, I address the very real issue of 'SPIRITUAL RETARDATION'. One (mental retardation) is not chosen, the other is rebelliously chosen.

311,000,000 (three-hundred and eleven million) people in the United States possess the ability of faith. This, above and beyond the gift of intelligence.

Only 31,000,000 (thirty one million) people in the United States 'DO NOT' possess ability of faith.

Yes, lack of ability = DIS...ABILITY! Spiritual Retardation...by the fringe-element few.......'If the shoe fits~~~~~

Holy Bible KJV: "The Fool has said in his heart 'there is no God".

Ken ORR

October 28, 2013 at 11:07 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Orr, now would be a good time to provide your science and mental health therapist credentials as you promised you would. Why don't you do that?

You can't because you're a liar and a fraud. You've lied about that, you've lied about telling jokes about AIDS patients dying, you've lied about high government "movers and shakes" wanting you to run a Congressional campaign.

And now you bring the people of Orange Grove Center into your discussion by calling them retarded? You refer to people who don't agree with you as retarded? What's wrong with you?

Shame on you for such lies and fraudulent behavior. And you call yourself a Christian. Are you the model of a good Christian? Does your God approve of you to be a liar and fraud? Does your church realize how you've embarrassed them? Have you realized the shame you've brought on your family? Have you no sense of decency, even to your own family?

Shame on you, Orr. You're a pathetic excuse for a man by your disgusting actions and joking about dying people with AIDS and calling the people at Orange Grove Center retarded?

Have you no shame?

October 28, 2013 at 11:21 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

So, daytonsdarwin, is it Your astute and intelligent observation that the Orange Grove School 'does not' provide a valuable service in improving the lives of those with mental retardation?...kwo

(just wondering).

October 29, 2013 at 12:35 a.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Do You think it a shame for someone to have mental retardation? I don't think it a shame for someone to have mental retardation.

I think it is a shame to choose Spiritual Retardation. Or, better put, to be Spiritually Retarded...on purpose...willfully...rebelliously. There exists a very tiny fringe element minority who LIE and label themselves atheists, knowing fully well that there is no such thing as an atheist. Why can't they be honest enough to plainly state they are only Anti-Christs? kwo

October 29, 2013 at 12:39 a.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Let me retract one of my points above; they (atheists) may not necessarily be liars, knowing how sATAN can deceive...they (atheists)truly may not be liars, only deceived/blinded. kwo

October 29, 2013 at 12:59 a.m.
anniebelle said...

Orr, you really need to butt out of this conversation. I had a child at Orange Grove for 30 years. That was before they had their fancy building and used 'shacks' all up down East Main. My doctor had warned me there were going to be problems, but I wouldn't listen. He was born with severe brain damage, every day of his life was filled with pain. Seizures, grand mal and petit mal, hundreds of times a day. He couldn't walk or talk. He was still wearing diapers when I put him to rest at 38 years old. Don't be so arrogant and ignorant to think these 'children' don't suffer. Sometimes there are worse things than death. A life of nothing but pain is one of them. It's not a Pollyanna world we live in and sometime or another, you will have to face reality. My son was born that way, but you choose to be retarded.

October 29, 2013 at 5:43 a.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Orr, you're a weasel. Once again you attempt to slither your way out from your despicable statements.

You are a pathological liar, fraud, and complete failure. You attempt to use other people's pain and misery to promote yourself.

You've made fun of dying people with AIDS and now you stoop so low in your efforts to bring Orange Grove Center into your cesspool of ignorance. You owe an apology to the staff and clients at Orange Grove.

You past posts on this forum prove beyond doubt that you are a liar and fraud. Your own words show you as beyond contemptable.

You mock those with disease and disabilities while claiming you are a Christian.

You are a coward who knows no bounds of decency.

Shame on you.

October 29, 2013 at 8:39 a.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Orr, I have made people with connections to Orange Grove aware of your behavior and verbal explotations of their clients for your own twisted perversions.

It's not enough that Orange Grove must face the difficulties of working with people with disabilities and real hardships in life, but to have their good works and dedication slandered by your ignorance and lies is abhorrant.

Shame on you.

October 29, 2013 at 9:36 a.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

R.I.F.

anniebelle, Your real life account above is in all truth, heart-wrenching. I feel compassion for Your pain. kwo

daytonsdarwin and anniebelle...on another note, R.I.F. stands for 'Reading Is Fundamental'. -Been around a long time. Check them out. Or, for a good 'Head Start' for Yourselves on reading literacy/comprehension go to:

www.tn.gov/tccy/adv0310.pdf

Extrapolation is a talent only achievable after one is able to comprehend the written word. I shant respond to either of Your objections regarding Orange Grove until You can produce for me evidence that You have become reading literate (especially in the discipline of reading comprehension). You both have, with amazing and incredible lack of understanding, totally missed the obvious point of my written discourse.

Ken ORR

October 29, 2013 at 10:21 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Reading comprehension is defined as the level of understanding of a text/message. This understanding comes from the interaction between the words that are written and how they trigger knowledge outside the text/message.[1]

"Proficient reading depends on the ability to recognize words quickly and effortlessly.[2] If word recognition is difficult, one uses too much of one's processing capacity to read individual words, which interferes with their ability to comprehend what is read."

WIKIPEDIA

October 29, 2013 at 10:29 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Orr, you continue to be a blatant liar and fraud.

You've lied about your supposed science credentials. You've lied about your mental health therapist credentials. You've lied about telling jokes about dying AIDS patients. You've lied about your congressional campaign support. You've called the clients at the Orange Grove Center "retarded" and now have lied about that.

You've been called out. Prove your yourself. Produce your credentials. Produce the letters of support from the "movers and shakers" in state and federal government you claim.

But you can't because they don't exist. They never did. Only in your deluded, tiny perverted mind.

Everyone knows you're a fraud. Your own words prove it. All your claims are outright lies told to make you appear what you are not.

Have you no shame? Why do you drag AIDS patients and the Orange Grove Center into your web of deception? How low are you willing to go in your blatant attempts to glorify yourself while continually lying on this forum?

Have you no shame? Can't you find anything to do with your time besides lie and drag innocent people into your schemes?

Again, I call on you to produce the credentials and letters you say you have. Yet again, we both know you can't. Everyone else knows it too.

You ought to be ashamed.

October 29, 2013 at 10:41 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

'The people claimed Jesus Christ was a fraud, that He could not produce healings, signs and wonders...miracles! Yet, he healed a young man who was blind. Jesus Christ gave him his gift of eye sight. People asked him how he received his sight. He who was once blind told the people the answer and gave the evidence repeatedly. But, lo, they would not hear and continued to ask the same questions, trying to make the young man a fool like, as themselves.'

kwo

October 30, 2013 at 12:13 a.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Saint John, Chapter 9

9 "And as Jesus passed by, He saw a man which was blind from his birth. 2 And His disciples asked Him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? 3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him. 4 I must work the works of Him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work. 5 As long as I am in the world, I Am The Light of the world. 6 When He had thus spoken, he spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and He anointed the eyes of the blind man with the clay, 7 and said unto him, Go, wash in the pool of Siloam, (which is by interpretation, Sent.) He went his way therefore, and washed, and came seeing.

8 The neighbors therefore, and they which before had seen him that he was blind, said, Is not this he that sat and begged? 9 Some said, This is he: others said, He is like him: but he said, I am he. 10 Therefore said they unto him, How were thine eyes opened? 11 He answered and said, A man that is called Jesus made clay, and anointed mine eyes, and said unto me, Go to the pool of Siloam, and wash: and I went and washed, and I received sight. 12 Then said they unto him, Where is he? He said, I know not.

13 They brought to the Pharisees him that aforetime was blind. 14 And it was the sabbath day when Jesus made the clay, and opened his eyes. 15 Then again the Pharisees also asked him how he had received his sight. He said unto them, He put clay upon mine eyes, and I washed, and do see. 16 Therefore said some of the Pharisees, This man is not of God, because he keepeth not the sabbath day. Others said, How can a man that is a sinner do such miracles? And there was a division among them. 17 They say unto the blind man again, What sayest thou of him, that he hath opened thine eyes? He said, He is a prophet.

18 But the Jews did not believe concerning him, that he had been blind, and received his sight, until they called the parents of him that had received his sight. 19 And they asked them, saying, Is this your son, who ye say was born blind? how then doth he now see?

October 30, 2013 at 12:24 a.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

20 His parents answered them and said, We know that this is our son, and that he was born blind: 21 but by what means he now seeth, we know not; or who hath opened his eyes, we know not: he is of age; ask him: he shall speak for himself. 22 These words spake his parents, because they feared the Jews: for the Jews had agreed already, that if any man did confess that He was Christ, he should be put out of the synagogue. 23 Therefore said his parents, He is of age; ask him.

24 Then again called they the man that was blind, and said unto him, Give God the praise: we know that this man is a sinner. 25 He answered and said, Whether he be a sinner or no, I know not: one thing I know, that, whereas I was blind, now I see. 26 Then said they to him again, What did He to thee? how opened He thine eyes? 27 He answered them, I have told you already, and ye did not hear: wherefore would ye hear it again? will ye also be his disciples? 28 Then they reviled him, and said, Thou art His disciple; but we are Moses’ disciples. 29 We know that God spake unto Moses: as for this fellow, we know not from whence He is. 30 The man answered and said unto them, Why herein is a marvelous thing, that ye know not from whence He is, and yet He hath opened mine eyes. 31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshiper of God, and doeth His will, him He heareth. 32 Since the world began was it not heard that any man opened the eyes of one that was born blind. 33 If this man were not of God, He could do nothing. 34 They answered and said unto him, Thou wast altogether born in sins, and dost thou teach us? And they cast him out.

35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God? 36 He answered and said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him? 37 And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee. 38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.

39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind. 40 And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also? 41 Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth."

October 30, 2013 at 12:25 a.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

MORAL...

  1. a lesson, esp. one concerning what is right or prudent, that can be derived from a story, a piece of information, or an experience.

"the moral of this story was that one must see the beauty in what one has"

I, Ken ORR will not answer the same questions over and over, repeatedly. I shall not be a fool. I have already fully answered all of Your questions and given sufficient evidence...daytonsdarwin.

October 30, 2013 at 12:30 a.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

You never answered the questions, Orr. Never. Where did you post your science credentials? Where did you post your mental health therapist credentials? Where did you post the letters from the movers and shakers you claim? When you made those claims, many people asked for evidence, not just me. You kept saying you would produce them, but you can't produce what doesn't exist.

And now you compare yourself to Jesus! What a hypocrite you are!

You already are a fool. You've been exposed countless times as a liar and fraud. Your own history on this forum, your own words, your own deceitfulness has exposed you as a fraud.

You are a joke. No one believes you. You are dishonest.

Shame on you. Shame on your for all the pain you've caused people, including your family and church, through your lies, disgusting jokes, and involving others in your deceptions by your false claims.

You've never produced one iota of evidence for your claims. You've never accepted responsibility for your actions. You continue to make-up imaginary credentials and expect people to believe you after you've been caught in so many lies.

Shame on you. People know about you Ken Orr. They know you are mentally unstable, a religious sociopath, and a deviant. There's no lies you won't tell and no fraud you won't commit by your complete failure to give evidence of your claims.

That are white lies, big lies, and Ken Orr lies.

Shame on you.

October 30, 2013 at 2:06 a.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

daytonsdarwin,

Because I admire certain aspects of Your intelligence, especially Your ability to produce supreme witty and cerebral humor, I tested Your opinions regarding my evidence, veracity, and accuracy of the answers I have provided several times on this site to the questions for which You have repeatedly requested from me answers.

The individuals who I had to evaluate my responses to You regarding the above subject are balanced, productive, ethical, well liked by most and significantly valuable people. They all possess the advantageous superior ability of addition to intelligence beyond those who are deficient regarding faith in The supreme Being, Creator, Jesus Christ.

They all agree that I have spoken plainly and justly with You in addressing all (and more) of the items You've requested.

You are a good person. I like and love You through Christ Jesus, and, I want You to become my fellow Believer in Jesus Christ (therefore, Blessed). BUT, I cannot go against my own wisdom based upon superior counsel of very capable and stable individuals.

You are wrong. Henceforth, bother me no more with this chicanery. I will invest no more time with a response to this moot endeavor. You are very much worth my time, BUT. not with this particular silliness. Please read my proverbial lips...I will not address this ruse again...never. kwo

October 30, 2013 at 4:17 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Orr, you still are a liar and fraud. The proof of your claims would take no more than a paragraph or two. But you can not produce what doesn't exist.

You have no science credentials. You have no mental health therapist credentials. You have no letters of support from "the movers and shakers at the highest levels of state and federal government" as you claimed.

You call it silliness. I, and others, call it lies and fraud.

I will continue to address this whenever and wherever I see your posts to advise those reading that you are ethically and morally deficient, repeatedly prone to outlandish tales of self-importance by false claims, and not to be trusted.

I'll also tell them of your propensity to tell jokes about dying AIDS patients and dragging the Orange Grove Center into religious discussions to call their clients and other people 'retarded'.

You are despicable. Thanks to Google, your record will be available to anyone who does a search using the key words,"Ken Orr, Chattanooga, and liar." Such a search will lead them to the Times Free Press where their archives will reveal your lunacy and lies.

No one trapped you. You trapped yourself through your public posts. There's no one to blame but yourself. Through your smugness and false claims of Christianity you've committed the sin of arrogance through deception.

Shame on you.

October 30, 2013 at 4:43 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

I'm also quite confident that the individuals you "consulted" are as fictious as the rest of your claims.

Why don't you tell us who those pargons of virtue are? Why not post the information you showed them that proved you have the credentials you say you have? Let everyone see your "credentials" and make their own decision.

What's that? The dog ate your credentials?

You keep digging the hole deeper, Orr.

Shame on you.

October 30, 2013 at 8:49 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

daytonsdarwin,

Please be very careful. I have received Counsel that You qualify and are subject to a libel lawsuit. I have never done any of the above regarding AIDS victims, nor, Orange Grove. (this through legal scrutiny). Your twisting of my words definitely satisfy the requirements of defamation. I would not retain any of the settlement dollars won in a libel lawsuit, they will go toward Hospice and Orange Grove Center (I have a Stepson attending Orange Grove Center). Please be advised that You may be learning first hand of some of the names of the Movers and Shakers which You want made public against their desires. I am not guilty of any of the false claims You have viscously and twistedly made against me, as You will soon find out.

Libel Law

'Defamation—also called calumny, vilification, or traducement—is the communication of a false statement that harms the reputation of an individual, business, product, group, government, religion, or nation. ...'

'libel 1) n. to publish in print (including pictures), writing or broadcast through radio, television or film, an untruth about another which will do harm to that person or his/her reputation, by tending to bring the target into ridicule, hatred, scorn or contempt of others. Libel is the written or broadcast form of defamation, distinguished from slander which is oral defamation. It is a tort (civil wrong) making the person or entity (like a newspaper, magazine or political organization) open to a lawsuit for damages by the person who can prove the statement about him/her was a lie.'

Ken ORR

November 1, 2013 at 10:09 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

*8211.743.A7

yes, that is correct. 27. (symbol)(symbol), then 92 (symbol)

i.d. location of computer(s) -internet protocol address-cipher

[identification] physical address. codec,end terminal

thanx! CTFP (Geo_interface) 00-19-J1-A4-F6-8z.

November 2, 2013 at 5:46 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

No id. Go to eEdition archives: agree upon string.. to respond.

Slippery fish (could be encrypted). This is a smart one. Moves around. kwo

ps

Please go there now. 8:53 p.m.

November 4, 2013 at 8:54 p.m.
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