published Sunday, September 1st, 2013

Impeachment

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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PlainTruth said...

Another race-baiting toon.

September 1, 2013 at 12:20 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

Impeach Satan: that's what the Cross of Christ is about.

Satan's flunkies are more than welcome to repent and be saved. One may suppose that a man of any color or party who sounds a trumpet before him as he gives away other peoples' money and the next generation's money is acting, politically, as a flunky of Satan (in his family life, our President seems to be setting a good example, sending his children to private school); but he's as welcome as any man to forsake his sins and ask the crucified Man not to make him a burning man, but to lead him to the resurrection of life and a balanced budget (small and constitutional).

September 1, 2013 at 12:30 a.m.
Renfield said...

Crazier than usual tonight. Could be sunspots.

September 1, 2013 at 12:44 a.m.
alprova said...

Oh but it is so on target.

I swear to God, which is something I do not do lightly, if I had a dollar for every time in the past five years that I have heard the President referred to as a "N" word, I would be set for life.

It always comes from the most ignorant of people, most of whom have very limited amounts of education, most of whom are overt and proud racists, bigots, and backwards to the nth degree.

I'm disgusted routinely by people who cannot set aside a person's skin color for one minute.

These same people routinely rail about the fact that he stood on national television and spoke about Trayvon Martin, calling him the son he never had, but question in their own estimable and outrageously manner, why it is that the President does not make similar claims of "kinship" of the Oklahoma, Australian murder victim, the baby who was shot in Savannah, or the Oregon man who was beat to death.

With some people, crimes committed by blacks are all that they take notice of. Nary a peep was mentioned this past week of the conviction of the Meth head Caucasian mother, whose two young Caucasian boys died equally disturbing deaths.

No one denies that black on black crime is out of control, or that most violent crimes are committed by those who are black, but what does that have to do with the President or any other black person who lives their life as a responsible American?

The President is an example and living proof that anyone born in this nation can become President of the United States. This is something that people used to appreciate. Achievement.

Barack Hussein Obama was born a child who should have had literally no chance to achieve any notion of notoriety. But look what the man has achieved in his life through hard work and determination.

Where the hell are the people who used to espouse those ideals?

I'm ashamed to share the same skin color with people who resort to expressing such shameless sentiments.

The man is not perfect. He most definitely parts way with some on political ideals, but so have many other lily white Presidents, and yet, I cannot recall any level of disrespect of this nation's leader that begins to compare to that which I read and hear on a daily basis today.

Enough already!! Everyone deserves to be considered an individual. No one who shares any common traits with others deserves to be put into a box of generalization and called vile names all the time.

If you're reading this, you absolutely know whether or not I just described yourself. If so, isn't it about time grow up and act your age instead of your shoe size?

September 1, 2013 at 12:58 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

Sounds to me like you're hanging with the wrong crowd, Alpo.

September 1, 2013 at 1:03 a.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

The man is in the process of destroying any credibility that this country has in foreign relations. So what political cartoon do we get but the the very tired LWNJ claim that political disagreement with him can only be due to racism.

The lefties go on and on about how this president is denigrate more than any other and since he is the only black one that must mean it is only because of his race. They must think that people don’t possess memories or access to historical information as to how George W. Bush was vilified as much or even to a much greater level than Obama.

When Bush was president the LWNJ’s constantly claimed that speaking truth to power was the height of patriotic duty. Now if you make even a slightly critically assessment of anything Obama does you have no legitimate justification and it can only be race hatred on your part.

September 1, 2013 at 1:45 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said....

But look what the man has achieved in his life through hard work and determination.

Why do you mess up an otherwise good post with some off the wall comment and personal opinion like this? What hard work are you talking about? Part time professor, community organizer, state legislature, senator? He now has a hard job but it is hard to tell if he is working hard.

alprova also said....

I'm ashamed to share the same skin color with people who resort to expressing such shameless sentiments.

Ignorance is not unique to any ethnicity therefore regardless of your skin color you could say the same thing about those resorting to expressing certain sentiments. I am sure we can assume you will retain your whiteness.

September 1, 2013 at 2:36 a.m.
jesse said...

Alprova lives in a diff. dimension! If they had called for impeachment 5 years ago then that MIGHT be valid!The man is incompetent and that's the bottom line and i voted for him twice! BUT McCain or Romney would have been no better and maybe a lot worse so there ya go!!

September 1, 2013 at 6:28 a.m.
conservative said...

How low can you go Mr. Bennett?

September 1, 2013 at 6:42 a.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "Why do you mess up an otherwise good post with some off the wall comment and personal opinion like this?"

Because I don't happen to believe my opinion is so off the wall at all.

"What hard work are you talking about? Part time professor, community organizer, state legislature, senator?"

You left out the fact that he was a practicing Attorney -- one who litigated to force slumlords to provide decent housing for the poorest of the poor.

You also left out the fact that he is a successful author as well, who has earned a respectable amount of wealth as an author.

I don't offer this as qualifiers to become President, but the man didn't sit on his ass for his years prior to becoming a politician. He went out an achieved the American dream with no ambition of becoming the President.

People who believed the man had something to offer the nation propelled him in that direction, just as others have done for other men.

And despite all the detractors and distractions, Barack Obama will forever be known as a two-term President of the United States.

"He now has a hard job but it is hard to tell if he is working hard."

How would any of you consistent critics have the first clue to the responsibility that man has on his shoulders? Most of you have never taken the time to see how this country has rebounded, albeit not as fast as some would like, but collectively, five years later, we've come a long way.

This nation was in the toilet when he first walked into the Oval Office, and I don't know about anyone else who writes in this forum, but my life has done a complete 180 degree turn over the past five years, from the very day he was sworn into office, when I hit rock bottom.

"Ignorance is not unique to any ethnicity therefore regardless of your skin color you could say the same thing about those resorting to expressing certain sentiments."

Sir, there are two classes of people I have witnessed referring to the man that way. They either have nothing to their name or they are well off. They are always lily white. The worst of the worst are drawing disability or retirement benefits from the Government.

I scratch my head whenever I encounter one of those people.

Not once have I met a black, Hispanic, or Asian person who refers to the President that way. Not once.

What's even worse, is that all to often, these very same people will cite their "Christian" values in some other conversation, mere seconds after having let loose with a tirade of expletives about the President.

Such people make me want to barf.

"I am sure we can assume you will retain your whiteness."

Of course I will, but that in no manner dictates that I have anything in common with a person who would utter the word in reference to any person of color.

September 1, 2013 at 6:43 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

People have been crying impeachment since the man was elected the first time. They need to put up or shut up.

September 1, 2013 at 7:10 a.m.
alprova said...

PT wrote: "Sounds to me like you're hanging with the wrong crowd, Alpo."

I am related to more than a couple of such people. The rest come my way uninvited, but I get a secret thrill from depriving them of their money, which they willingly hand over to me, knowing that I support our current President.

It's been very good for me to have such a man in the White House.

I've learned not to argue with such people. They are the ones who are upset all the time.

These days, I smile, shake my head, and live my life without a worry in the world.

September 1, 2013 at 7:15 a.m.
alprova said...

It is amazing how many politicians have switched sides on the issue of "being the world's policemen."

When GWB was in office, there were few, if any Republicans who were not beating those drums of war.

Just a few minutes ago, watching CNN, I had to laugh at the comments coming from notable Republicans and Democrats.

180 degrees describes each and every one of them.

It was important to go in Iraq when chemical weapons were suspected to have been used on inhabitants of that nation, but Syrians don't rate the same consideration.

Unbelievable.

September 1, 2013 at 7:24 a.m.
jesse said...

Al, in the aftermath of 9/11 Bush could prob. have gerrymandered support to bomb France!

September 1, 2013 at 8:01 a.m.
moon4kat said...

Jesse, and GWB would have done that, too, if Cheney had told him to do it.

September 1, 2013 at 8:12 a.m.
tifosi said...

PlainTruth said... "Sounds to me like you're hanging with the wrong crowd, Alpo."

It comes with the turf when you live in Tennessee. You are not in the mainstream.

lkeithlu said... "People have been crying impeachment since the man was elected the first time. They need to put up or shut up."

Amen! Bunch of whiners with no case. If everything they claim is true, then the GOP sucks at pursuing an impeachment. I don't see any Tea Partiers stepping up to the plate and presenting their case. We do have a legal system to present any case you think you have. Whining here is chickensh!t.

September 1, 2013 at 8:35 a.m.
soakya said...

an anti-Semite and a liar talking about racism. liberals always divide people between race and class.

September 1, 2013 at 8:58 a.m.
whatsthefuss said...

My My My,,,

What short memories people have. After 9/11 everyone was beating the drums of war, not just Republicans.

http://youtu.be/FCVZlLBchVE

September 1, 2013 at 8:58 a.m.
rick1 said...

Al said "It always comes from the most ignorant of people, most of whom have very limited amounts of education."

Al also posted "The rest come my way uninvited, but I get a secret thrill from depriving them of their money, which they willingly hand over to me, knowing that I support our current President."

So, you are totally disgusted with these ignorant and uneducated people because they have called Obama the N word, yet you have no problem conducting business with them.

If you were truly discussed with what these people who call Obama the N word you would not conduct business with them. By doing so you are associating yourself with the very people that you are condemning for being racist, which makes you as bad as them.

If any other company was doing business with someone who was making racists statements you would be calling on them to cease doing business with that person and would boycott the business.

It appears you do not have a problem with those who call Obama the N word as long as they have money to buy a car from you.

September 1, 2013 at 10:18 a.m.
eym_sirius said...

The cartoon is spot-on. The anti-Obamas, the obstructionists, the birthers, the impeachers - they're all a part of an ugly, shameful racist undercurrent. We've heard secession-talk! We've heard a call for "states' rights". This is, essentially, a minority (see Presidential election results)movement to recreate the civil war. A portion of Americans reject and oppose our President solely on the basis of his color. Whichever group stands in opposition to him, the opposition is always irrational on its face. The birthers don't question Obama's legitimacy because of WHERE he was born - They oppose it because they think that only white people are fit to occupy the White House. THAT is their legitimacy issue. It's the same thing with obstructionists. The obstructionists swore to attempt to undermine Obama from the day that he was elected. It has nothing to do with policies or direction. It has to do with the spite and vindictiveness that come from the absolute evil of racism.

September 1, 2013 at 10:55 a.m.
limric said...

Jt6,

Talk about racist and anti-Semitic!

So, those ‘LWNJ’s’ are disingenuous are they? Lazy Whites, Negros & Jews!!!

Well I never! How wude.

When I first read that I almost started Fracking!!

September 1, 2013 at 11:32 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

eym_sirius: Using the hackneyed term "spot-on" prevents me from reading the rest of your post.

Tiffy: I live in TN and can't remember anyone I know ever using the "N" word re Obama. You lefties are so used to looking for the Dem approved glossary...N word, R word, war on women, etc that you conjure them up.

September 1, 2013 at 11:34 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

A rare agreement with Conservative at 6:42a

September 1, 2013 at 11:37 a.m.
tifosi said...

Pull your head out of the sand.

September 1, 2013 at 11:58 a.m.
rick1 said...

To liberals anyone who disagrees with Obama's policies are racists. Now all of you liberals who are against Obama taking military action against Syria are also racists for going against him.

September 1, 2013 at 11:59 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

Interesting to watch Sec. Heinz trying to gin-up support for war. The man has sold his soul. Again. And again.

September 1, 2013 at noon
rick1 said...

Plain Truth, Obama wouldn't fire a rocket or send in the military to help our ambassador and three other U.S. citizens in Benghazi, why would he give a crap about helping Kerry. Now when a Muslim needs help Obama is the Muslim Brotherhood's Air Force and will risk war with Russia to help them. Obama will screw Kerry and all the rest of us.

No I am not a racists, I do not like the white half of Obama either.

September 1, 2013 at 12:15 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Yeah, Rick1. Agree. Here's the thing. The Prez is simply not an effective statesman and is totally disengaged. (I don't think he even wanted a 2nd term) He promised that once he was elected the world would change. That did not happen and it has only gotten more dangerous. (the vastly overrated) Hillary Clinton should also share the blame in what is happening. Her diplomacy was a clear and now evident disaster. Although the mainstream media and ALPO and TIFFY and LU do not want to admit it, President Obama has taken American foreign policy and prestige around the world a giant step backwards. Simply put, he's still a rank amateur with amateurs giving him advice. Only partisan hacks now defend the Organizer.

September 1, 2013 at 12:29 p.m.
tifosi said...

"I do not like the white half of Obama either."

Proof that race is an issue for you.

"He promised that once he was elected the world would change."

Your imagination is running wild and proof that you are a fiction writer. You never back up your BS with supporting evidence. Just another whiner and loser. Time for your party to step up and do something.

September 1, 2013 at 12:30 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

What have you proven, Tiffy? Other than your being a constant carper.

September 1, 2013 at 12:43 p.m.
rick1 said...

tifosi, your ignorance is showing. I do not like Obama as a person not because of his race that is why I don not like the white half of him either. It's the left who is always bring up race when ever anyone disagrees or questions Obama. Just keep playing the race card when you can not defend his policies.

PT, I agree Obama's foreign policies have been nothing but a disaster and now he is backing down from his red line in the sand threat he made. He has lost respect through out the world and it is obvious Obama is all talk and no action and that puts this country in a very dangerous situation.

Obama has been more of a National Security Threat to our nation then Eric Snowden has been.

September 1, 2013 at 12:46 p.m.
prairie_dog said...

Obama has sadly discovered that making the United States act "nicer" on the world scene has not changed a thing.

Rogue nations and governments do as they please. Hitler and Mussolini proved that back in the 30s, and Russia proved it time and again, and the Taliban and fundamentalist Muslims have proved it for the past 20 years at least. They will do as they please, whether or not we like it, or get support of allies.

The people who voted for Obama are just like the people in Muslim nations who want the government that panders to THEM. 50% of this country is under the control of people who do not produce, do not sacrifice for the common good, expect government support and leave the heavy lifting to someone else. The "fast food" strike last week is concrete proof that our educational system has failed, and our federal government has failed, in their duties to prepare students for productive work in adulthood. Fast food is NOT a career. It's a part time job. People have to better themselves to move up the pay ladder, and that's what nobody in the Democratic machine is willing to say to its voters.

The election of Barack Obama did not magically change the world. Oops. Okay, eight years lost. Now what? But, don't impeach him. The next to last thing we need is Joe Biden in the big chair.

September 1, 2013 at 12:49 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

rick, I hope he does back down from the red line. My problem is the amateurish public statement re the red line in the first place.

September 1, 2013 at 12:50 p.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said....

my life has done a complete 180 degree turn over the past five years, from the very day he was sworn into office, when I hit rock bottom.

That is great alprova but that is not atypical across the country. In fact many have experienced a 180 degree turn for the worse. Is the slow rate of recovery, if such is happening at all, due to the administration or have they and congress been an impediment?

What is the presidents message with an attack on Assad? Are we saying it is o.k. to keep killing your own people but it cannot be done with chemical weapons? Does anyone have any idea who would replace Assad? Do we again anticipate an orderly transition to a democratic form of government or maybe even a republic? He dug a hole with his "red line" comment. The first order of business when you are in a hole is to stop digging.

September 1, 2013 at 12:54 p.m.
rick1 said...

PT, I agree we have no business going into Syria. He made a threat he never should have made and now he is looking for a way to save his own face even if it makes it look like we surrendered and are weak in the eyes of terrorist nations.

Obama is a narcissist and only cares about himself and how he looks and doesn't give a crap on the consequence his actions may have on our country.

September 1, 2013 at 1:01 p.m.
fairmon said...

rick1 said to alprova...

If you were truly discussed with what these people who call Obama the N word you would not conduct business with them. By doing so you are associating yourself with the very people that you are condemning for being racist, which makes you as bad as them.

rick1...I don't agree with that at all. Wal-Mart and many others would sure be in trouble if they took that position. I totally disagree with alprova on some issues but his objection to racial slurs are totally correct. But, no business can be successful if they reject business because of social, political, religious or other issues that divide people. Selling a communist supporter a car does not make alprova a communist and selling someone a car that uses the N word certainly doesn't mean he condones it.

September 1, 2013 at 1:04 p.m.
rick1 said...

fairmon, like so many others Alpo only cares about himself and not what is best for the country.

September 1, 2013 at 1:05 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

alprova said...

I swear to God, which is something I do not do lightly, if I had a dollar for every time in the past five years that I have heard the President referred to as a "N" word, I would be set for life.

So you’re saying that you could retire on $50? Alprova your little personal anecdotes mean nothing in proving that disagreement with Obama is mostly due to, your unsupportable claim, this country’s overwhelming racist nature.

It always comes from the most ignorant of people, most of whom have very limited amounts of education, most of whom are overt and proud racists, bigots, and backwards to the nth degree.

I'm disgusted routinely by people who cannot set aside a person's skin color for one minute.

You have made that claim many times but you obviously are too cowardly to admonish your associates you will not tolerate that type of language and is unacceptable in your presence. It appears to continue because people must feel you are in league with them due to your not speaking out. It’s people like you that helps perpetuate it due to your cowardly silence.

These same people routinely rail about the fact that he stood on national television and spoke about Trayvon Martin, calling him the son he never had, but question in their own estimable and outrageously manner, why it is that the President does not make similar claims of "kinship" of the Oklahoma, Australian murder victim, the baby who was shot in Savannah, or the Oregon man who was beat to death.

How is someone voicing those beliefs proving themselves to be racists? In fact many people honestly and correctly think that Obama is exhibiting a racial bias in the way he has commented on these events.

With some people, crimes committed by blacks are all that they take notice of. Nary a peep was mentioned this past week of the conviction of the Meth head Caucasian mother, whose two young Caucasian boys died equally disturbing deaths.

The recent burst of people commenting on black crime levels is mostly in response to the insane level of racist comments directed at and concerning Mr.Zimmerman due to his trial.

No one denies that black on black crime is out of control, or that most violent crimes are committed by those who are black, but what does that have to do with the President or any other black person who lives their life as a responsible American?

So you make the same claims but somehow you are immune to racist views but those you disagree with politically are not?

(cont)

September 1, 2013 at 1:14 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

(cont)

The President is an example and living proof that anyone born in this nation can become President of the United States. This is something that people used to appreciate. Achievement.

Barack Hussein Obama was born a child who should have had literally no chance to achieve any notion of notoriety. But look what the man has achieved in his life through hard work and determination.

It not true that he lead a deprived childhood. He was raised in middle to upper middle class environments. Attended private schools and was given great assistance in attending some of the most elite universities.

I'm ashamed to share the same skin color with people who resort to expressing such shameless sentiments.

Self hatred is the sign of some forms of emotional disturbances.

The man is not perfect. He most definitely parts way with some on political ideals, but so have many other lily white Presidents, and yet, I cannot recall any level of disrespect of this nation's leader that begins to compare to that which I read and hear on a daily basis today.

Enough already!!

You continue to be delusional in you claims as to the disproportionate disrespect directed at some of our leaders and not others.

September 1, 2013 at 1:15 p.m.
tifosi said...

PT: Prove to me he ever said this.

"He promised that once he was elected the world would change."

September 1, 2013 at 1:16 p.m.
rick1 said...

fairmon, Alpo has made this statement more then once about customers calling Obama the N word. If he is truly that disgusted by it then yes he should take a stand and not do business with them. Companies have stopped selling products when they have been connected to people using racial terms. How many times has Jackson and Sharpton organized boycotts of businesses because of this. Alpo should do the same if he really felt the way he says he does.

September 1, 2013 at 1:26 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

Question: You really think the president's risking impeachment by moving without Congressional approval against Syria?

Answer: Yes, and I'll tell you why, because there was no imminent or actual threat to the United States of America. If there was, then people expect the president to defend us, but in this case, the president is going on his own. In a previous clip, he said he would go in and said -- he said, 'I meant what I said. I have not made a final decision.'

Well, it's not 'I, the president,' it's 'we, the people of the United States who formed the constitution.' And Article 1, Section 8 says only the Congress has the power to take this country to war. That's a fundamental principle and if the president throws that away, disregards that, I think that there will be consequences for him.

  • FMR. REP. DENNIS KUCINICH (D-OH)

Old racist white guy ... Right?

September 1, 2013 at 1:37 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Tiffy, the remark was ubiquitous during his campaigns. Here's a couple:

9:17 p.m.April 08 -- "We will change this country. We will change the world," Barack Obama said at the Pennsylvania Capitol, wrapping up his appearance in Harrisburg and his one-day swing by train through eastern Pennsylvania.

There was a carnival atmosphere among the crowd of some 4,000, who almost drowned Mr Obama out as he reached his crescendo and said: "I promise you. We won't just win New Hampshire. We will win this election and, you and I together, we're going to change the country and change the world."

September 1, 2013 at 1:39 p.m.
tifosi said...

I guess you are right. But, then the GOP became the Party of "No". I guess we all thought that everyone wanted to move the country forward. The GOP and the Tea Party just wanted to make sure everything failed. They have since lost the Senate and the White House again. The next election could well see the GOP lose the Senate. The dark side of the GOP/Tea Party has been shown.

September 1, 2013 at 1:42 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Weak, tiffy, Maybe you should think before you post.

September 1, 2013 at 1:46 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Think first, Tiff... It won't make you less ignorant, but fewer people will know it.

September 1, 2013 at 1:52 p.m.
EaTn said...

For all those who are opposed to Obama because you differ to his policies--I support your rights to do so. For those of you who deep down oppose Obama mainly because of him and his family's race--you need to have a heart checkup. This is now the twenty-first century.

September 1, 2013 at 1:53 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

EaTn: Thanks for the calendar update. 99'5% of Obama objectors don't like his policies. I know that's not what the left wants out there, but it's the plain truth.

September 1, 2013 at 1:57 p.m.
fairmon said...

rick1 said...

fairmon, like so many others Alpo only cares about himself and not what is best for the country.

That is evident with his unwavering support of Obama due to his personal gains since he has been in office. Do you know anyone other than those serving in the military that are willing to sacrifice for the country? If you do what do you think they are willing to sacrifice and suffer? Boycotting of a companies products doesn't work and is usually short lived. I would really wonder about alprova's intelligence if he turned down business because of a customers use of a racial slang word.

September 1, 2013 at 2:36 p.m.
fairmon said...

A recent poll shows 85% if those responding say the U.S. should not attack Syria. The same poll says 90% say the president should get congressional approval. I hope congress is required to have a roll call yes or no vote. I am pretty sure most people including congress do not know for sure who we are arming and who we would be retaliating for.

September 1, 2013 at 2:41 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

PT says vote no

September 1, 2013 at 2:48 p.m.
rick1 said...

fairmon, I believe there are a lot of people including myself would love to give up security (Patriot Act, Obamacare, Social Security etc) for our liberties. We have generations that now live their entire life on welfare programs and expect the government to provide for them from cradle to grave. I'm sue you are like me and do not mind assisting people to get back on their feet but we should not be supporting someone for their entire life when the are capable to take care of themselves but refuse to do so because they know they know they will get their government check every month. Anyone who is on any type of government assistance should not be allowed to vote in a federal election because they will always vote for the person who will give them more candy.

We have also become a country where we are told what type of light bulb we can use, what type of toilet we can flush, our government is trying to force us to drive smaller unsafe vehicles. Take a look at the serious injury and fatality rates before and after CAFE standards took effect. Government over the years has been slowly taking away our liberties through soft tyranny and with with ObamaCare they will control everything we do through healthcare. So yes a lot of people would love to give up security of our government.

We are going to disagree on Al, and I respect your opinion on the topic.

September 1, 2013 at 3:04 p.m.
alprova said...

rick1 wrote: "So, you are totally disgusted with these ignorant and uneducated people because they have called Obama the N word, yet you have no problem conducting business with them."

Not at all. Remember, they give me their hard earned money, as opposed to the other way around. They pay me for the privilege of offending me with their bigotry and racism.

"If you were truly discussed (disgusted) with what these people who call Obama the N word you would not conduct business with them."

See the above. I can be disgusted and enriched at the same time, at their expense.

"By doing so you are associating yourself with the very people that you are condemning for being racist, which makes you as bad as them."

You see it your way and I see it my way.

"If any other company was doing business with someone who was making racists statements you would be calling on them to cease doing business with that person and would boycott the business."

Have you ever seen me call for a boycott of any business in this forum? What do you base your statement upon?

"It appears you do not have a problem with those who call Obama the N word as long as they have money to buy a car from you."

What people say is of no consequence. Why would I cut off my nose to spite my face, when it is all hot air and meaningless banter?

September 1, 2013 at 3:07 p.m.
EaTn said...

I hope this Congress gets more intelligence facts than the one Bush/Cheney convinced to invade Iraq. Of course, many of the members then were voting for their jobs instead of their convictions.

September 1, 2013 at 3:07 p.m.
alprova said...

PT wrote: "Tiffy: I live in TN and can't remember anyone I know ever using the "N" word re Obama."

It's kind of hard to meet other people when you never leave your home. Given that you are in this forum day in and day out from 8:00 am to midnight, seven days a week, I'm quite sure you haven't heard the word from other people.

September 1, 2013 at 3:10 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Ironic, huh EaTn. Probably about the same WMD.

September 1, 2013 at 3:13 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Alpo, you ever hear of an iPad, meathead?

September 1, 2013 at 3:27 p.m.
alprova said...

rick1 wrote: "To liberals anyone who disagrees with Obama's policies are racists."

Not all by any means, but there are plenty of bigots and racists out there, especially here in the South.

"Now all of you liberals who are against Obama taking military action against Syria are also racists for going against him."

Why must you make baseless statements like that? Who has expressed any such statement?

The thing I cannot understand is those who criticize the man for speaking out against the use of chemical weapons, and now that he has decided to punt the decision to do something about it to Congress, he is now a "wuss" for not ordering the strikes.

I think he had a stroke of genius in the last 24 hours myself.

By punting this issue to Congress, the American people are going to see who is soft on genocide, number one, and number two, there are going to be a plethora of politicians who will be on record in a coming weeks for doing a complete 180 degree turn on prior votes to "bring Democracy to the Middle East."

The Republicans grandstanding against the President, who will be running for reelection next year are now going to find themselves in a political quagmire that they have created all by themselves.

The ball is now in their court. Inconsistency is the name of the game.

September 1, 2013 at 3:27 p.m.
jesse said...

now we know what Saddam did w/his wmd's!He hid them in Syria!!

Bush was right all along!!!

September 1, 2013 at 3:27 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

^^^^^^ entirely possible

September 1, 2013 at 3:38 p.m.
EaTn said...

"

jesse said...

"now we know what Saddam did w/his wmd's!He hid them in Syria!!"

Wouldn't it be ironic if Bush is unwittingly vindicated for invading Iraq because of wmd's later moved to Syria? Of course that would also prove any of Obama's actions in Syria to be justified.

September 1, 2013 at 3:43 p.m.
alprova said...

rick1 wrote: "like so many others Alpo only cares about himself and not what is best for the country."

Oh please.

Are you holding yourself out to be someone who is not selfish when it comes to earning your living and supporting your family?

Do you query everyone you work for to determine if they are liberal minded and if so, would you decide to seek work elsewhere based on that criteria?

Sure you do.

September 1, 2013 at 3:51 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

NO ONE can rationalize or justify shizzola better than Rev. Alpo. I think he may even believe himself.

September 1, 2013 at 3:59 p.m.
rick1 said...

Al, Obama is anything but a genius in how he has handled Syria. He stated there would be consequences if Syria used chemical weapons and he was drawing a line in the sand. John Kerry advised Obama there was evidence that Syria had used Sarin gas. Obama threaten to take military action by conducting air strikes and said he did not need congressional approval. Yet Obama made this comment in 2007:

"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat."

Now Obama says he is going to wait for Congress and in the eyes Assad, Putin, Kim Jung Un and other ruthless leaders and terrorist groups it looks like Obama has surrendered.

To Syria this will look like a victory and Obama has become even less credible in the Middle East and our standing in the world has become even more diminished.

Obama was reckless with his foolish line in the sand comment and when challenged he blinked first and backed down an now we look weak and makes us vulnerable to rouge nations and terrorist groups.

What is going on in Syria has been occurring for a year or more (shortly after Hilary said Assad was a reformer) why is Obama getting involved now? This was all about his narcissist ego and when the polls came out showing the majority of the people were against going into Syria Obama used this to back away and say he will now wait for congress. Obama is a coward and is in way over his head.

Obama is not even close to being a genius; he is a coward in how he handled this.

September 1, 2013 at 4:07 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Is there not one objective Obama supporter that will admit his handling of Syria is Caca?

September 1, 2013 at 4:21 p.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "That is evident with his unwavering support of Obama due to his personal gains since he has been in office."

My personal gains are not why I support the President. He has had little, if anything, to do with them. My own efforts and my own seed money have grown a business.

I support the President because he is not from typical political stock, thrown into a pot and boiled for hours to produce the perfect politician.

Whether or not he has been able to do the things he has wanted to do as President, he does care about people that most politicians consider throwaways, and he cares not a whit how others feel about it.

I support President Obama because he represents many of the ideals that I hold near and dear. Fairness, compassion, authentic family values, patriotism, compromise and love of country that are not slogans or political hot air.

I support him because he knows and understands that this nation is far from perfect, and that we aren't #1 just because we are the United States of America.

I support him because he is a realist. He understands that dealing with the complex issues facing this country is much more difficult and harder to solve than listening to a Toby Keith song.

I support him because he has faced constant, unrelenting, mean-spirited, dishonest criticism since before he took office and every day since. He has been called a socialist, communist, Nazi, Marxist, traitor, foreign, un-American, liar, Barack the magic negro, halfrican and worse.

He has suffered innumerable lies about his ideology, religion, family and even his place of birth. No other president in the history of this country has faced such unfounded open hostility and disrespect.

No other president has ever been called a liar by a member of congress during a State of the Union.

No other president has had to show his birth certificate, repeatedly.

I support him because he has done many things republicans insist they do well and he has done them better. Unlike Republicans, who used to be for self-responsibility and who proposed the mandate for health care coverage, the President put his signature on the dotted line and has weathered the storm that has come from this nation's first attempt to reform health care for all.

I support him because he has faced this unrelenting bitterness and undeserved hate with grace and honor, compassion and humility. His speeches still have the power to inspire and move me like no other politician.

I support the President because he engages his opponents with tact, respect, and facts.

I support the President because he has aged 10 years in 5 because the job he faces every day has pressures and stress that his critics will never come close to comprehending.

But most of all, I support the man because he proudly serves and when people ask if he can beat the odds and make this country a better, fairer more decent place to live for all Americans, I hear;

"Yes we can!"

September 1, 2013 at 4:32 p.m.
alprova said...

PT wrote: "Alpo, you ever hear of an iPad, meathead?"

Sure I have, but I don't believe for a second that you own one, and even if you did, how pathetic does one have to be to spend 16 hours a day in a forum, no matter where they are?

Your level of participation in this forum tells me that you have no life outside of this forum.

But, that's your problem in life to deal with.

September 1, 2013 at 4:39 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

^^^pot meet kettle. you simpleton.

September 1, 2013 at 4:43 p.m.
alprova said...

rick1 wrote: "Al, Obama is anything but a genius in how he has handled Syria. He stated there would be consequences if Syria used chemical weapons and he was drawing a line in the sand. John Kerry advised Obama there was evidence that Syria had used Sarin gas."

That will be confirmed or dis-proven by the UN weapons inspectors who are currently analyzing samples taken from the scenes of those bombings.

"Obama threaten to take military action by conducting air strikes and said he did not need congressional approval."

And he is right as rain. Every President since Ronald Reagan has ordered military strikes around the world without Congressional approval or consultation.

"Now Obama says he is going to wait for Congress and in the eyes Assad, Putin, Kim Jung Un and other ruthless leaders and terrorist groups it looks like Obama has surrendered."

His decision to consult Congressional Republicans, who have been hitting the airways to criticize his resolve to target any government that would dare use chemical weapons on their citizens, retrains the spotlight on each and every one of them, to pass the ball to them.

Let them go on record, once and for all, to prove to the American people what they are made of, and how even this issue, has become nothing but petty partisan politics.

Republicans in Congress wants to call the shots?

Now it's their decision, and they WILL be held accountable.

September 1, 2013 at 4:54 p.m.
alprova said...

PT wrote: "^^^pot meet kettle. you simpleton."

Not even close. Two days a week, holidays excepted, do I spend more than a few hours per day checking in.

All the evidence is in the archives.

September 1, 2013 at 4:58 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

File it under "who cares" Alpy. If you're trying to sell that you're only on here 2 days per week, I don't think you'll find many buyers. BTW, I like my life fine. You tend to your own knitting, bozo.

September 1, 2013 at 5:08 p.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said.... "Yes we can!" as the end of a long list of accolades not accomplishments as the causes of his loyalty and admiration.

alprova...do you hallucinate often? Is it the meds? I can't believe you think Obama gives a twit about people like you. Don't take this to mean I think there are others that really care and would do what is in the best interest of anyone that is not in a voting bloc.

It is confusing when I hear we live in the greatest nation on earth. Followed later by I will promise you change.

September 1, 2013 at 5:13 p.m.
MickeyRat said...

PlainTruth

Did you say something about a pot meeting a kettle? Who's a constant carper, a simpleton?

These are just from today:

”What have you proven, Tiffy? Other than your being a constant carper. Another race-baiting toon. Sounds to me like you're hanging with the wrong crowd. Weak, tiffy, Think first, Tiff... It won't make you less ignorant, but fewer people will know it. Alpo, you ever hear of an iPad, meathead. NO ONE can rationalize or justify shizzola better than Rev. Alpo.”

I'd say surely you are jesting. But you're not that self aware.

September 1, 2013 at 5:19 p.m.
rick1 said...

Al, your love of Obama is nauseating and you ignore the fact that Obama's stupid comment has caused great damage to our country.

Obama's handling of this is reckless and dangerous and he handed Russia, Syria and Iran a victory, and he has also emboldened Iran to continue with their nuclear ambitions. What the hell do they have to fear, the next time Obama takes the stage to lay down an ultimatum our enemies will just laugh and ignore him.

September 1, 2013 at 5:19 p.m.
tifosi said...

PlainTruth said... "Weak, tiffy, Maybe you should think before you post. "

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September 1, 2013 at 5:23 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Lots of effort there Tiffy. For not much.

September 1, 2013 at 5:31 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

MckeyRat: It's all in the context.

September 1, 2013 at 5:33 p.m.
alprova said...

PT wrote: "File it under "who cares" Alpy."

Clearly, you do, because you spend most of your life commenting in this forum.

"If you're trying to sell that you're only on here 2 days per week, I don't think you'll find many buyers."

I did not state that I only spend two days a week. I stated that other than two days a week, do I spend more than a couple to a few hours a day in here.

"BTW, I like my life fine."

I'm sure you do.

"You tend to your own knitting, bozo."

I'd ask you to do the same, but then your life revolves around spending 16 hours a day typing two-liners, consisting of pathetic "snarcasm" to see what you can stir up.

You can dish it out, but you can't take it.

September 1, 2013 at 5:42 p.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "alprova...do you hallucinate often?"

No. Sorry.

"Is it the meds?"

Although I am on quite a regimen, hallucinations are not one of the side effects that I am forced to deal with.

"I can't believe you think Obama gives a twit about people like you."

What kind of "people" do you think I am? Is this because I am white that you would type such a comment?

"Don't take this to mean I think there are others that really care and would do what is in the best interest of anyone that is not in a voting bloc."

No one will be voting for the man ever again. So, any assessment that he does what he does today to appeal to any bloc of voters, is rather silly.

"It is confusing when I hear we live in the greatest nation on earth. Followed later by I will promise you change."

Those words did not come from Barack Obama.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/change.asp

September 1, 2013 at 5:51 p.m.
alprova said...

rick1 wrote: "Al, your love of Obama is nauseating and you ignore the fact that Obama's stupid comment has caused great damage to our country."

Then we're even, for your constant criticism of the man is equally nauseating to me.

Everything that is happening in the world, according to some folk, is the fault of one man. Nothing he does or says ever pleases you, so why would I be bothered by yet, another negative opinion or claim that we are all in danger because he is showing restraint that previous Presidents have not shown.

You are wearing your inconsistency on your sleeve.

"Obama's handling of this is reckless and dangerous and he handed Russia, Syria and Iran a victory, and he has also emboldened Iran to continue with their nuclear ambitions."

What would you do, if you were in his shoes? You seem to have all the answers. What response should be forthcoming to any government that would use chemical weapons on women and children, as Syria has almost certainly done?

If one of those chemical weapons were lobbed over into Israel, would your stance be the same?

"What the hell do they have to fear, the next time Obama takes the stage to lay down an ultimatum our enemies will just laugh and ignore him."

Sir, the Republicans want to call the shots, so I admire the man for dumping it into their laps. They want it, they now have it.

They had all kinds of courage when a Republican was in the White House. Now they want to change their game plan now that a Democrat and a black man is in charge.

This whole thing would be totally hilarious, if it were not for the fact that innocent lives have been taken, and Israel is probably going to be the next target.

Republicans don't want to do anything about it? Fine. They will be held responsible for the fallout.

The President is on the right side of this issue.

September 1, 2013 at 6:05 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

tifosi said...

I guess you are right.

I guess when you get your face rubbed in “it” that is all you can realistically say.

But, then the GOP became the Party of "No". I guess we all thought that everyone wanted to move the country forward.

There are many roads forward but some, such as the one we’re on, leads to a washed out bridge.

The GOP and the Tea Party just wanted to make sure everything failed.

Since you LWNJ’s claim that the right wing capitalists own the whole country and reap all of its profits why would they desire the failure of the U.S.? They are just trying to wrench the hands, of the current driver loon, from the steering wheel before we plunge to our death.

They have since lost the Senate and the White House again.

News Flash ... the GOP hasn’t controlled the Senate since 2007

The next election could well see the GOP lose the Senate.

News Flash #2 .... They don’t have it lose but their chances of taking control are better than the LWNJ’s keeping it.

The dark side of the GOP/Tea Party has been shown.

Is that some kind of racist crack?

September 1, 2013 at 6:13 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

alprova said ...

"It is confusing when I hear we live in the greatest nation on earth. Followed later by I will promise you change."

Those words did not come from Barack Obama.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/change.asp

Well try these:

“We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.” - B.Obama

Transforming or Changing ... What’s the diff.

Transforming = To change markedly the appearance or form of; To change the nature, function, or condition of....Synonyms: change, alter, convert, metamorphose, transfigure, transmute, mutate

September 1, 2013 at 6:30 p.m.
MickeyRat said...

"MckeyRat, It's all in the context."

Yea - whatever dude.

I'd agree, but you have shown every effort to not understand context, and minutia completely eludes you.

Carp diem shall we say?

Nigga please!

September 1, 2013 at 6:33 p.m.
rick1 said...

Al, it's obvious you believed Obama was correct in how he handled the situation in Syria including Obama's non engagement with Syria for the last two years to where Obama made his red line in the sand comment against Syria's use of chemical weapons and Syria's army disregard Obama's threat and Obama boxed himself into a corner.

I on the other hand believe Obama's handling of Syria has been a complete disaster from Obama wanting to arm the Syrian rebels who included members of al-Qaeda to making and idle threat of drawing a red line in the sand, to his stating he was going to strike Syria without Congressional approval to now saying he will wait for congressional approval.

Obama would have been better off not saying anything about Syria but he could not help himself and this will have a negative impact on us.

We will just agree to disagree on the way Obama handled this.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/02/world/middleeast/overseas-concern-follows-obamas-new-approach-to-syria.html?pagewanted=1

September 1, 2013 at 6:36 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

alprova said...

No one will be voting for the man ever again. So, any assessment that he does what he does today to appeal to any bloc of voters, is rather silly.

Of course it’s silly in that no one will be voting in the future to alter his attempts to “change” America to his ideal form .... Right?

September 1, 2013 at 6:43 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Rat: I'm sure you could teach me a lot.

September 1, 2013 at 6:47 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

MickeyRat said...

Nigga please!

I would say that pretty much defines where you’re coming from .. wouldn’t you say so?

September 1, 2013 at 6:49 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

alprova said...

It's kind of hard to meet other people when you never leave your home. Given that you are in this forum day in and day out from 8:00 am to midnight, seven days a week, I'm quite sure you haven't heard the word from other people.

An amazing lack of self awareness from the poster that spends more time and effort preparing and posting his little manifestos than any four others combined.

September 1, 2013 at 7:03 p.m.
MickeyRat said...

"I would say that pretty much defines where you’re coming from .. wouldn’t you say so?"

Burn Baby Burn Jt6gR3hM !

Hey! That kinda goes along with the theme of today's Clay Bennett feature.

Teaching moment Plain Truth; that was an example of 'minutia', or a cheesy (me being a rat 'n' all) metaphor. Take your pick.

September 1, 2013 at 7:14 p.m.
jesse said...

Self awareness has NEVER been Alprova's strong suit!!

September 1, 2013 at 7:15 p.m.
alprova said...

JT wrote: "An amazing lack of self awareness from the poster that spends more time and effort preparing and posting his little manifestos than any four others combined."

My dear, I spend little time and effort, as I type about 100 words a minute.

You're probably a pecker.

September 1, 2013 at 7:37 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

alprova said ...

But most of all, I support the man because he proudly serves and when people ask if he can beat the odds and make this country a better, fairer more decent place to live for all Americans, I hear;

"Yes we can!"


Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord;

He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;

He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword;

His truth is marching on.

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His truth is marching on.

I have seen Him in the watch fires of a hundred circling camps

They have builded Him an altar in the evening dews and damps;

I can read His righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps;

His day is marching on.

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His day is marching on.

I have read a fiery Gospel writ in burnished rows of steel;

“As ye deal with My contemners, so with you My grace shall deal”;

Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with His heel,

Since God is marching on.

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Since God is marching on.

He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat;

He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment seat;

Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! be jubilant, my feet;

Our God is marching on.

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Our God is marching on.

In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea,

With a glory in His bosom that transfigures (changes?) you and me:

As He died to make men holy, let us live to make men free;

While God is marching on.

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! While God is marching on.

He is coming like the glory of the morning on the wave,

He is wisdom to the mighty, He is honor to the brave;

So the world shall be His footstool, and the soul of wrong His slave,

Our God is marching on.

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Our God is marching on.

Amen Brother!

Them Stinking Syrian murders don’t stand a chance.

September 1, 2013 at 7:39 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

MickeyRat said...

"I would say that pretty much defines where you’re coming from .. wouldn’t you say so?"

Burn Baby Burn Jt6gR3hM !

Hey! That kinda goes along with the theme of today's Clay Bennett feature.

Be careful where you strike that match as there are a lot of fire extinguishers in the hands of people willing to put you out ... If you know what I mean?

September 1, 2013 at 7:45 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Jt6, whatever you are drinking (or snorting) I would like some please.

September 1, 2013 at 7:45 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

You got me there, Rat. You're much too deep for ol' PT.

September 1, 2013 at 7:46 p.m.
jesse said...

ALL them C.P.A.'s beez FAST typer's!!

Car salesmen beez fast talker's SO it looks like Al has a lock on the board!!!

September 1, 2013 at 7:53 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Jesse...yeah, but he's got a creampuff for you. A 1 owner.

September 1, 2013 at 7:57 p.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said....

my life has done a complete 180 degree turn over the past five years, from the very day he was sworn into office, when I hit rock bottom.

alprova later said...

My personal gains are not why I support the President. He has had little, if anything, to do with them. My own efforts and my own seed money have grown a business.

I guess the first statement was to allow some to conclude you gave him some credit for the turn around in your life which you later stated he did not?

Does the second statement replace all the prior accolades for your healthcare access and business tax breaks?

You may be a proficient typist but If you can type 100 words a minute I can pilot an aircraft carrier, never been on one. Have someone time you and count off for any errors, you will not exceed 70 per minute which is outstanding.

September 1, 2013 at 8:22 p.m.
fairmon said...

Remember Einstein saying "I fear the day when technology will surpass our human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots"

Text, tweet, email, press 1, 2, 3 etc...Are where he feared we would be?

Send Assad a tweet saying...cease your BS or we will destroy you and sign it anonymous.

September 1, 2013 at 8:31 p.m.
MickeyRat said...

He he he, Yea I got ya Jt6gR3hM

September 1, 2013 at 8:48 p.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "I guess the first statement was to allow some to conclude you gave him some credit for the turn around in your life which you later stated he did not?"

As I have stated many times, a President deserves little credit or blame for the economy. GWB did not derail it and Obama has had little effect on it's recovery.

People that sit around and look to the President to solve issues like high gas prices or food at the grocery store, or to bring businesses more customers, are worse than delusional.

"Does the second statement replace all the prior accolades for your healthcare access and business tax breaks?"

My ObamaCare policy is no more, however, the tax breaks are still on and will increase come January 1. 2014. I'm quite sure that he, himself, did not craft the legislation that gives me those additional deductibles and credits.

"You may be a proficient typist but If you can type 100 words a minute I can pilot an aircraft carrier, never been on one. Have someone time you and count off for any errors, you will not exceed 70 per minute which is outstanding."

Is there anything under the sun some of you will not argue about?

I don't make many errors when I type.

September 1, 2013 at 8:53 p.m.
conservative said...

Seems Mr. Bennett thinks the Secret Service wants to harm Mr. Owebama.

September 2, 2013 at 7:22 a.m.
vqv356 said...

Can we say racism!!!

September 2, 2013 at 9:20 a.m.
GameOn said...
September 2, 2013 at 9:24 a.m.
conservative said...

Well look on the bright side.

It is a start.

September 2, 2013 at 9:48 a.m.
GameOn said...

Yep. The Democrats may turn out to be the union busters.

The Longshoreman leader said, "President Obama ran on a platform that he would not tax medical plans and at the 2009 AFL-CIO Convention, you stated that labor would not stand for a tax on our benefits." But, regardless of that promise, the President has pushed for just such a tax and Trumka and the AFL-CIO bowed to political pressure lining up behind Obama's tax on those plans.

McEllrath also went on to say that they support stronger immigration reform than the AFL-CIO is supporting.

One ILWU committeeman was even harsher on both the AFL-CIO and the President. ILWU Coast Committeeman Leal Sundet criticized the AFL-CIO telling LaborNotes.com that Trumka was marching "in lockstep" with Obama both on the "Cadillac healthcare tax" as well as immigration.

Sundet slammed Obama's immigration plan saying it is "designed to give [only] highly-paid workers a real path to citizenship."

September 2, 2013 at 9:57 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

Happy Labor Day to all.

September 2, 2013 at 10:42 a.m.
SBrauer said...

After reading all of your writings about how raciest we are because we don't like Obama, I do not once find the word "character". Could it be because the 'mixed race' (notice I didn't say black or white, cause I don't give a rat's butt) gentleman has no character? He has done nothing but put America's credibility on the bottom of the pile. Even Egypt is saying leave them alone. The money we send them is going to al-quada.

September 2, 2013 at 11:50 a.m.
fairmon said...

"You may be a proficient typist but If you can type 100 words a minute I can pilot an aircraft carrier, never been on one. Have someone time you and count off for any errors, you will not exceed 70 per minute which is outstanding."

Is there anything under the sun some of you will not argue about?

No there isn't especially when reality is stretched.

September 2, 2013 at 11:50 a.m.
fairmon said...

I can imagine the president saying; "Which way did they go? I am the leader I need to know". His intentions are probably good but those he depends on for advice and guidance are suspect with Valerie Jarrett heading the list of those steering him wrong and not keeping him as informed as she should. Statements like that would be a "red line" for me indicating action would result, "I will not negotiate regarding the debt ceiling", "before we begin this discussion remember we won the election" and many similar statements are not conducive to reconciling differences and displaying good leadership and the ability to influence others. In spite of this he keeps outsmarting the republicans even though he may be the worst president since .....ah....since....ah err uh....well let me think about that, any suggestion?.

September 2, 2013 at 12:04 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Mr. President: Europe called. They were laughing.

September 2, 2013 at 12:18 p.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "No there isn't especially when reality is stretched."

Sir, 70 wpm is a very old standard. 100 wpm is very doable on a keyboard and many people achieve it easily.

September 2, 2013 at 12:45 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

ALPO must type rapidly in the CPA bidness. HAHAHAHAHA

September 2, 2013 at 1:08 p.m.
whatsthefuss said...

Every once in a while Clay has a great idea. To bad he stole this one from Joe Biden. Copy Cat!!!

Vice President Joe Biden, who voted for the Iraq War, agreed with Obama.

“The president has no constitutional authority to take this country to war… unless we’re attacked or unless there is proof that we are about to be attacked,” Biden said in 2007.

Biden, then a Democratic senator from Delaware, suggested presidential war-making was an impeachable offense.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/27/obama-and-his-team-contradict-past-statements-on-war-powers-syria/

And I am sure Michelle is yelling once again,,,

"I See Whitey!"

September 2, 2013 at 1:10 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

That old RIGHT WING HAWK, Charlie Rangel, says Obama's red line is embarrassing.

September 2, 2013 at 1:10 p.m.
jesse said...

pt,i see your back to using ALPROVA for your avatar!

September 2, 2013 at 1:30 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

jesse: Is that Alpy??

September 2, 2013 at 1:47 p.m.
tifosi said...

Clay Bennett plays you boys like a fiddle.

September 2, 2013 at 1:56 p.m.
whatsthefuss said...

tifosi,,, whatever that is supposed to mean

You and the rest of the oblamama supporters are an embarrassment to America and an insult to every American who has sacrificed to establish, protect and defend this great country. There is no fiddle playing by the little clay. Simply ignorance and arrogance. No sign of logical thinking or patriotism on his part or yours and your kind. Yes that includes your MESSIAH!

God Bless America on this Labor Day. We sure do need it!

September 2, 2013 at 3:06 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Tiffy, and we play you like a fiddle.

September 2, 2013 at 3:21 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

<<<<<<< can this man type 100wpm?

September 2, 2013 at 3:34 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

alprova said...

What response should be forthcoming to any government that would use chemical weapons on women and children, as Syria has almost certainly done?

No Soup For You!!

If one of those chemical weapons were lobbed over into Israel, would your stance be the same?

I wouldn’t be making any plans to visit the trash heap that used to be Syria.

Sir, the Republicans want to call the shots, so I admire the man for dumping it into their laps. They want it, they now have it.

This is a box that Obama made himself. He and his lackeys have already declared he has the Constitutional authority to correct a problem of his own making so let him twist in the wind.

They had all kinds of courage when a Republican was in the White House. Now they want to change their game plan now that a Democrat and a black man is in charge.

I would support total military action if it is truly in our national interests and would not support a police action, nation building, nor a dog and pony show as a face-saving action for an incompetent elected official.

This whole thing would be totally hilarious, if it were not for the fact that innocent lives have been taken, and Israel is probably going to be the next target.

Syria does not want any part of Israel when it comes to WMD’s unless they have their virgins lined up.

Republicans don't want to do anything about it? Fine. They will be held responsible for the fallout.

The President is on the right side of this issue.

The public knows who made a mess out of this situation and he will be held accountable. This just shows him to be more incompetent and cowardly. Especially after shooting off his mouth about how he was going to teach the Syrians a lesson. You ought to read some of the headlines and editorials from around the world. Come to think of it that may be Obama’s plan .... He’s going to cause the bad guys to laugh themselves to death.

September 2, 2013 at 3:38 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

PlainTruth said...

<<<<<<< can this man type 100wpm?

Not with those fingers.

He could try voice recognition software. However the only thing that would show up on the screen would be "WTF !!"

September 2, 2013 at 3:39 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Former Obama Syria advisor Frederic Hof has come out foursquare against President Obama’s activities with regard to the Assad regime. “The events of the past ten days suggest that there was no administration forethought to the possibility of a major chemical incident in Syria,” Hof wrote. “The results of this mystifying lack of preparedness have been abysmal. OF COURSE THIS GUY DID NOT CONSULT WITH ALPY PRIOR TO MAKING THIS STATEMENT.

September 2, 2013 at 3:43 p.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said....

Sir, 70 wpm is a very old standard. 100 wpm is very doable on a keyboard and many people achieve it easily.

I know that and is why I pegged you for the old standard at best. I seriously doubt you can do 100 error free wpm.

September 2, 2013 at 4:07 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

PT, no offense, but are you suggesting Obama is at fault because he did not do a pre-emptive strike on Syria on the off chance that they may use chemical weapons?

September 2, 2013 at 4:10 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Lu. None taken. No, I'm against any strike there. Then or now.

September 2, 2013 at 4:15 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

lkeithlu said...

PT, no offense, but are you suggesting Obama is at fault because he did not do a pre-emptive strike on Syria on the off chance that they may use chemical weapons?

There are claims being made that Obama knew Syrian forces were preparing this attack three days before it occurred. If he was or is so concern for innocent Syrians being gassed why didn't he send in some drones before hand. Did he let it happen so he would have cause to show what a tough guy he is? If he did so then he did it stupidly and it has backfired on his incompetent a^^.

September 2, 2013 at 4:28 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Could you explain your comment for me?

Jt6, I have seen those claims too, but only on extreme right wing blogs. The only verification I can find is after the attack the investigation showed a 3 day run up to the attack. Taking that fact and turning it into "Obama knew in advance" is a very Glenn Beck-ish move.

September 2, 2013 at 4:28 p.m.
alprova said...

Blah, blah, blah....blah blah.

Nothing any of you believe matters an iota.

He's the Prez....and y'all aren't.

September 2, 2013 at 5:40 p.m.
tifosi said...

... and the GOP keeps losing and losing and losing.

Pretty much like the losers (Jt6gR3hM, PlainTruth, conservative) that whine on here. HAHA!!!

September 2, 2013 at 6:23 p.m.
workinjay said...

Plain Truth said, <<<<< can this man type 100 wpm?

Of course Alprova can type 100 wpm.

If you say something long and often enough, not only will you believe it, but others will too. Here are some examples:

Kim Jong Il, "I hit 5 holes in one the first time I ever played golf," and "You are the master of your own destiny. If you work harder, you can fulfill all of your dreams and Pyongyang will be heaven."

Obama, "I've now been to 57 states," and "I think when you spread the wealth around its good for everybody," and "The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings and inefficiencies to our health care system."

Alprova, "I am a CPA," and "I don't just manage a business. I own it too," and "I can type 100 wpm."

You see Plain Truth, even delusional people can be deceptive. Sorry, I mean convincing.

September 2, 2013 at 6:37 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

workinjay: or conniving.

September 2, 2013 at 6:42 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

PT, sorry to ask again: Can you explain your 3:43 comment?

September 2, 2013 at 6:49 p.m.
degage said...

Al, Yes he is president and we are not but I was under the impression he works for the benefit of the people , all the people of this fine country, Also he lives in the house owned by the people and the furniture in it that he loves to put his feet on. Like the desk in the oval office. I don't believe he respects the office he has been entrusted to, or the people of this country. Just My opinion.

September 2, 2013 at 7:12 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Lu: Which part. The statement stands on its own. The last part was that almost everyone agrees except Baghdad Alpo.

September 2, 2013 at 7:22 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

This: "The events of the past ten days suggest that there was no administration forethought to the possibility of a major chemical incident in Syria,” Hof wrote. “The results of this mystifying lack of preparedness have been abysmal."

September 2, 2013 at 7:25 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Not getting you. You disagree with the statement?

September 2, 2013 at 7:39 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

That seems like an accusation that the US should have acted pre-emptively to me.

September 2, 2013 at 7:46 p.m.
degage said...

Ike, It seems to me that what it means is there was no forethought, when Obama drew the red line, to the possibility of a major chemical incident. So he wasn't prepared to act on his threat. If he had gone to congress when he drew the red line and said 'if they cross the red line this is what I want to do' He wouldn't be in the mess he is in now.

September 2, 2013 at 8:11 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

That actually makes sense, degage.

September 2, 2013 at 8:14 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Lu, I think his staff was mortfied when he made the red line statement.

September 2, 2013 at 8:27 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

I would not doubt that, and I think it was a mistake.

September 2, 2013 at 8:37 p.m.
chet123 said...

HA HA HA HA!!!...THE RIGHT-WINGS ARE GOING CRAZY..HA HA HA HA!!!...I LOVE IT!..HA HA HA HA!

September 2, 2013 at 8:41 p.m.
chet123 said...

OBAMA IS TOYING WITH THE RIGHT-WING NUTS!!! HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!

LOVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IT! HA HA HA HA!

September 2, 2013 at 8:42 p.m.
chet123 said...

HEY YOU RIGHT-WINGS NUTS....WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO'S YOUR DADDYYYYYYYYYYY! HA HA HA HA!

September 2, 2013 at 8:44 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Cheer up Chet.

September 2, 2013 at 8:57 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

lkeithlu said...

Jt6, I have seen those claims too, but only on extreme right wing blogs. The only verification I can find is after the attack the investigation showed a 3 day run up to the attack. Taking that fact and turning it into "Obama knew in advance" is a very Glenn Beck-ish move.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2408404/Intelligence-report-says-U-S-officials-knew-nerve-gas-attack-Syria-days-killed-1-400-people-including-400-children.html

A U.S. intelligence report released Friday by the Obama Administration indicates that they knew about a chemical attack by the Syrian military three days before it happened

Officials refused to answer whether or not they warned rebels before the August 21 attack on a suburb of Damascus

Members of the opposition say they were given no advance warning

In his press conference yesterday, President Barack Obama said that there was 'overwhelming evidence' Syrian President Bashar al-Assad carried out a chemical weapons attack against rebels in the suburbs of Damascus on August 21.

What he didn't mention was that his administration knew about the alleged nerve-gas attack three days before it happened.

At a U.S. intelligence briefing Friday afternoon, senior administration officials disclosed that there were indications three days prior that an attack was coming.

'In the three days prior to the attack, we collected streams of human, signals and geospatial intelligence that reveal regime activities that we assess were association with preparations for a chemical weapons attack,' the U.S. intelligence report released by the Obama administration said.

At the briefing, officials would not answer of whether or not they warned rebel forced before the attack.

Razan Zaitouneh, another opposition member who lives in one of the towns affected, said she too knew nothing about the oncoming attack.

'It's unbelievable that they did nothing to warn people to stop the regime before the crime,' she said.

Take a look at the last picture in the link. Obama is using a national treasure desk as a footrest and what do you think he suggesting by the configuration of his right hand? Does he think he is playing “Cowboys and Indians? The man is absolutely delusional.

September 2, 2013 at 10:45 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

At the least, the foot on the desk is disrespectful

September 2, 2013 at 11:02 p.m.
fairmon said...

PT it isn't the position of his foot that is concerning, it is the position or location of his head, his HUA leadership style is showing. The economy is still the issue this administration and congress needs to address. The slow progress of the economy is in spite of them not because of anything either has done.

Will congress support attacking Syria? We won't know for several weeks. Will Obama strike without their approval? My skepticism says he will not and he hopes like hell congress doesn't approve so he can blame them. 85% OF Americans say no to a Syria military action, will congress ignore them? Those up for re-election on the next vote from either party will probably oppose it.

I don't get the impeachment theme, you have to do something to be impeached. Obamacare probably should be but isn't an impeachable offense.

September 2, 2013 at 11:45 p.m.
alprova said...

The Daily Mall reports something and it is taken as gospel, by some people anyway.

Here's a link to the intelligence report NOT provided in their article;

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/08/30/government-assessment-syrian-government-s-use-chemical-weapons-august-21

A quote from the intelligence briefing;

"We have intelligence that leads us to assess that Syrian chemical weapons personnel – including personnel assessed to be associated with the SSRC – were preparing chemical munitions prior to the attack. In the three days prior to the attack, we collected streams of human, signals and geospatial intelligence that reveal regime activities that we assess were associated with preparations for a chemical weapons attack."

They had no way of knowing three days in advance that chemical weapons would be used. Read the paragraph. The intelligence was assessed AFTER the weapons were allegedly deployed.

The sentence does not read "at the time, we assessed..."**

They assessed the "streams of human, signals and geospatial intelligence that reveal regime activities" and NOW associate them with the chemical weapons used in the attack of August 21.

Moving weapons into place and using them are two very distinctively different actions.

North Korea moves nukes around all the time. He hasn't been stupid enough to fire any of them...yet.

September 2, 2013 at 11:59 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

<<<<< this man uses hunt & peck.

September 3, 2013 at 12:18 a.m.
fairmon said...

PT..would not a pecker be needed to hunt and peck? I shouldn't say that but couldn't stop myself. The frequency and length of post means al can type pretty fast but 100 wpm is not likely. I think he and Chris Mathews both get a tingle up their leg just listening to Obama talk even when he talks at length and says nothing.

Oil futures are down which may indicate what some think will happen with Syria.

September 3, 2013 at 2:59 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said...

PT wrote: "At the least, the foot on the desk is disrespectful"

Good God, is there ANYTHING you people will not beotch about?

GWB with his feet on the desk;

al...you probably noticed I did not criticize foot on desk. His foot is not the body part of concern, it is the HUA syndrome.

September 3, 2013 at 3:05 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

good point, mon, re the pecker. maybe he uses special software.

September 3, 2013 at 3:28 a.m.
wyneaux said...

Speaking of "Good God".... don't you guys have anything better to pontificate about? BTW - There are certain elected nut wingers who are floating the "Impeachment" idea.... even tho they have no specific charges to bring..... hence maybe the Bennett cartoon... or would entertaining that idea be too much of a distraction from your slam dance routines.

September 3, 2013 at 3:51 a.m.
GlacierClipper said...

Obama is a joke. He talks about all the stuff he is going to do and not going to do. Even in his second term, he is still avoiding to do as he once said on many issues.

Obama is a do nothing President.

If Obama done as half as much work as he talks about doing things maybe, just maybe he could get something productive done before getting out of office.

September 3, 2013 at 5:29 a.m.
conservative said...

This must be about the first time Mr. Bennett has not blamed Republicans or the Tea Party so it must be his personal wish.

September 3, 2013 at 6:53 a.m.
alprova said...

Folks, no President can "do" anything without a cooperative Congress, and the Republicans are still determined to do nothing good for the country, if it will make Obama look good at all.

They continue to fight with him and among themselves, and next November, the Republicans will pay for it.

Mitch McConnell may be the first one to go. The polls don't have him looking so good at the moment. 51 percent of Kentuckians say it's time for him to retire.

Nationally, only 36 percent give him a thumbs up for job approval.

September 3, 2013 at 7:25 a.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "I think he and Chris Mathews both get a tingle up their leg just listening to Obama talk even when he talks at length and says nothing."

Some of you are destined to be totally miserable for the next 3 and a quarter years.

Tingle? Not quite, but I do like the man and I always will, just as I am sure that there are those who faint at the sight of GWB on television.

September 3, 2013 at 7:33 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Thanks, alprova. Like I said, the stretch from that report to "obama knew" was something akin to a Beck move.

September 3, 2013 at 8:05 a.m.
fairmon said...

Who could possibly believe Obama knew about the use of chemical weapons 3 days before the event..........hello, look at all the things he didn't know until they were in the news. Why would this be different? Give the man credit he didn't add this to the list of what he calls false scandals.

September 3, 2013 at 8:17 a.m.
degage said...

Obama knew or he didn't, doesn't matter. In three days what do any of you think we could have done. As far as I'm concerned Al Quida is as bad as Assad. And they are a big player in this struggle.

September 3, 2013 at 8:21 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

We (as in the Allies) created the situation in the middle east where we alternately support and oppose various groups and leaders. We created this in ignorance of the complex tribal societies that existed there prior to WWI and we make our decisions based on what is convenient or advantageous to us at the time. Syria, like Iraq, had no business being a country and will self destruct no matter what happens, and we'll shoulder all the blame no matter what actions we take or fail to take.

September 3, 2013 at 8:33 a.m.
rick1 said...

Al posted "They had no way of knowing three days in advance that chemical weapons would be used"

Then it shows at the very least how incompetent our administration is. In August of 2012 Obama issued the warning to Assad against using chemical weapons and made his red line in the sand comment. In Dec. 2012 Obama was quoted as saying "The use of chemical weapons is... totally unacceptable. And if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences and you will be held accountable."

In April of this year Israel, France and Britain concluded chemical weapons had been used in Syria, and in June of this year The Obama Administration had agreed that Syria had used chemical weapons. Not to mention the U.N Middle East envoy Robert Serry stated in July of this year the U.N had received 13 reports of alleged chemical weapons use in Syria.

So for you and the the Whitehouse to say they had no way of knowing three days prior to the attack that chemical weapons were going to be used is disingenuous.

September 3, 2013 at 8:33 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

It isn't disingenuous, rick1. Knowing there was a risk, knowing that there were allegations of previous use and knowing an attack was imminent in three days are not the same thing. And if they could predict it, would a pre-emptive strike be the wise move?

These articles that stretch the truth are written for only one reason: to blame this administration. This is a complex situation, but conservative blogs try to simplify things too much so they can convince their base that the "liberals screwed up again". If it was so simple it would be easy for the US to get the other countries to agree on a plan of action. Clearly that is not the case.

September 3, 2013 at 8:35 a.m.
alprova said...

lkeithlu wrote: "Thanks, alprova. Like I said, the stretch from that report to "obama knew" was something akin to a Beck move."

Always glad to keep things real.

Fairmon wrote: "Who could possibly believe Obama knew about the use of chemical weapons 3 days before the event..........hello, look at all the things he didn't know until they were in the news. Why would this be different?"

Some of you really need to get a grip on reality. I know that he's supposed to be Barack the magic Negro, but some of you expect the man to be super-human, gifted with ESP, and insight into all things around the world, not to mention this nation.

"Give the man credit he didn't add this to the list of what he calls false scandals."

Oh...they weren't false? Who has been arrested or prosecuted? Several have been persecuted, but it's all died down without so much as one person within the White House being tainted by the accusations.

Darrell Issa didn't deliver the goods, despite all that silly chest thumping.

And you folks thought Bill Clinton was made of Teflon.

September 3, 2013 at 8:38 a.m.
rick1 said...

Ike, this past June The Obama Adminstartion admitted Syria had used chemical weapons and Obama did not follow through with with the lione in the sand comment he had made two times before. Of course they knew he was going to use those weapons again because there were not any consequences from the last time he used them.

June 13, 2013 CBS News: The Obama administration has concluded that Syrian President Bashar Assad's government used chemical weapons against the rebels seeking to overthrow him and, in a major policy shift, President Obama has decided to supply military support to the rebels, the White House announced Thursday.

September 3, 2013 at 9:06 a.m.
alprova said...

rick1 wrote: "Then it shows at the very least how incompetent our administration is. In August of 2012 Obama issued the warning to Assad against using chemical weapons and made his red line in the sand comment."

So by that, I assume that you blame the President for Assad's disregarding of such a warning?

I guess it was okay when GWB drew a line in the sand when Saddam Hussein was charged with using chemical weapons in Iraq? Hussein too, was charged with using such weapons several times prior to the time that we actually went in and did something about it. About ten years, in fact.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/oct/07/usa.iraq

Red lines have been a part of speeches from many world leaders over the past five years. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu spoke of that infamous "red line" in reference to Iran's nuclear weapons capability.

Where is the outrage?

"In Dec. 2012 Obama was quoted as saying "The use of chemical weapons is... totally unacceptable."

And what possible disagreement could anyone have with such a statement?

"And if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences and you will be held accountable."..."

And that process is in the works. I don't get what the problem consists of. GWB campaigned Congress for a year to go after Saddam Hussein, speaking out relentlessly about the man every chance he got.

"In April of this year Israel, France and Britain concluded chemical weapons had been used in Syria, and in June of this year The Obama Administration had agreed that Syria had used chemical weapons. Not to mention the U.N Middle East envoy Robert Serry stated in July of this year the U.N had received 13 reports of alleged chemical weapons use in Syria."

And?....

"So for you and the the Whitehouse to say they had no way of knowing three days prior to the attack that chemical weapons were going to be used is disingenuous."

Every year, North Korea moves what are alleged to be nukes to the coast in a faux display of aggression and intimidation. Not once have they been launched.

Even if there were suspicions that all the intelligence across the world was pointing to a movement of weapons into strategic areas within Syria within three days of August the 21st, and even if it was known at the time, there is no way that anyone but those with their fingers on the trigger (a metaphor), could have been in any position to know they would be launched.

Are you people under some impression that the satellites in space are like real time, movie cameras with high definition capabilities?

Images taken from space have to be analyzed, studied, and contrasted to those taken days and weeks before, before any conclusions can be reached.

September 3, 2013 at 9:08 a.m.
alprova said...

All I can do is scratch my head in wonder at some of you.

Every President since Carter has moved to arm rebels engaged around the world, they have ordered military strikes without Congressional approval, and they have all been vocal in their opposition about tyrannical leaders, but Obama is doing it all wrong?

Ridiculous.

It's now in the hands of Congress. They want it...they've got it.

Now, rather than to grandstand in front of a camera about how the current President is totally incompetent, they will have a voting record to defend. They supported GWB in invading Iraq due to their use of chemical weapons. Will they do an about face?

It's going to be VERY hard to defend that, if they do.

September 3, 2013 at 9:19 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

It's Tuesday, ALPY. You need to get to work.

September 3, 2013 at 9:30 a.m.
rick1 said...

Al, Obama admitted in June 2013 that Syria had used chemical weapons and Syria was given a pass by Obama,after being told by Obama, that the use of chemical weapons is totally unacceptable, and if he used those weapons there would be consequences and you will be held accountable.

When there were no consequences to Assad the first time it is not hard to figure out that he would use chemical weapons again.

September 3, 2013 at 9:50 a.m.
soakya said...

hey plain truth is that alprova picture your using.

September 3, 2013 at 10:14 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said....

Red lines have been a part of speeches from many world leaders over the past five years. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu spoke of that infamous "red line" in reference to Iran's nuclear weapons capability.

Could the difference be he means it?

September 3, 2013 at 10:18 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova ask...

Will they do an about face? (meaning congress I assume)

It's going to be VERY hard to defend that, if they do.

Several democrats did on Bush but no libertarians had to change their position, they don't support meddling in another countries affairs.

September 3, 2013 at 10:23 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said...

Oh...they weren't false? Who has been arrested or prosecuted? Several have been persecuted, but it's all died down without so much as one person within the White House being tainted by the accusations.

Darrell Issa didn't deliver the goods, despite all that silly chest thumping.

Does died down mean they are completed or that the media has reduced their coverage. No doubt American's short memory will work every time. The same will likely hold true on Syria, I and the president hope so.

September 3, 2013 at 10:28 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

soakya: Yeah, got it off a post office wall.

September 3, 2013 at 10:46 a.m.
caddy said...

Spot on Andrew Lohr !

Impeach Satan: that's what the Cross of Christ is about.

Satan's flunkies are more than welcome to repent and be saved. One may suppose that a man of any color or party who sounds a trumpet before him as he gives away other peoples' money and the next generation's money is acting, politically, as a flunky of Satan (in his family life, our President seems to be setting a good example, sending his children to private school); but he's as welcome as any man to forsake his sins and ask the crucified Man not to make him a burning man, but to lead him to the resurrection of life and a balanced budget (small and constitutional).

September 3, 2013 at 10:50 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

<<<<<<< PT

September 3, 2013 at 10:52 a.m.
caddy said...

Race baiting Clay ! 94-97 % of Blacks voted for this man. The evidence shows that he is doing NOTHING good for them and NOTHING good for this country, save to further enslave through debt and the false nothing that he is helping his own. So tell me: WHen a group of people vote for a man based on the color of his skin--rather than on the content of his character and success of his policies, what does that say for that race of people ? I think it is pretty clear what it means.

September 3, 2013 at 10:52 a.m.
ibshame said...

"caddy said... Race baiting Clay ! 94-97 % of Blacks voted for this man. The evidence shows that he is doing NOTHING good for them and NOTHING good for this country, save to further enslave through debt and the false nothing that he is helping his own. So tell me: WHen a group of people vote for a man based on the color of his skin--rather than on the content of his character and success of his policies, what does that say for that race of people ? I think it is pretty clear what it means."

94-97% of African Americans voted for William Jefferson Clinton and before the New Deal of Franklin Roosevelt, African Americans who were allowed to vote cast about that same percentage for most Republicans who ran for office because Abraham Lincoln had been a Republican(not the kind of Repub today though) so your premise is stupid, ignorant, bigoted and uneducated, but then I've come to expect no less from your kind and that's definitely pretty clear.

September 3, 2013 at 1:02 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Glass houses and so forth, libshame.

September 3, 2013 at 1:19 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Soakya says, " liberals always divide people between race and class." I guess conservatives only divide it between conservatives and liberals. hmmm.

September 3, 2013 at 1:38 p.m.
ibshame said...

"PlainTruth said... Glass houses and so forth, libshame"

yeah? You giving advice about glass houses? HAHAHAHA

For the record it certainly doesn't take much to prove the ignorance of someone like caddy. Maybe the question that should be asked is why Repubs started losing more of the votes from African Americans instead of gaining?

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/04/blacks-and-the-democratic-party/

September 3, 2013 at 2:18 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Pretty easy answer to that one Libby. Entitlements and 60 years of broken promises. African Americans should run, not walk, away from Dems.

September 3, 2013 at 2:40 p.m.
alprova said...

PT wrote: "Pretty easy answer to that one Libby. Entitlements and 60 years of broken promises. African Americans should run, not walk, away from Dems."

Good luck with that!!!

September 3, 2013 at 2:49 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Will happen ALPO....empty promises with little results only last so long. They will wise up. You, not so sure about.

September 3, 2013 at 3:11 p.m.
ibshame said...

"PlainTruth said... Pretty easy answer to that one Libby. Entitlements and 60 years of broken promises. African Americans should run, not walk, away from Dems."

Entitlements? rightttt. It's too bad teabaggers like yourself and others think the only reason African Americans vote for Democrats is because of entitlements. Too bad no one ever sat you down and taught you the difference between per centages and actual numbers. If they had then maybe you would understand their are fewer African Americans receiving entitlements than whites because they make up fewer ACTUAL NUMBERS of the population. Percentages can be fixed to say just about anything you want them to say, for instance if there were only FIVE MEMBERS IN YOUR FAMILY AND 2 OF THE FIVE WERE MORONS THAN ONE COULD SAY PERCENTAGE WISE 40% OF YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS ARE MORONS WHEN THE ACTUAL NUMBER IS ONLY TWO. GET THE PICTURE???

September 3, 2013 at 3:20 p.m.
jesse said...

L.B.J. Bought the black soul w/the "great society and the war on poverty" AND had the gall to state publicly"If we can pass this the blacks(not the word he used!) will vote DEM. for the next 200 years!"And so far he has been proven correct!

September 3, 2013 at 3:22 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

yeah libby, I got thru %'s years ago...you're cute though. Get the picture?

September 3, 2013 at 3:43 p.m.
ibshame said...

"jesse said... L.B.J. Bought the black soul w/the "great society and the war on poverty" AND had the gall to state publicly"If we can pass this the blacks(not the word he used!) will vote DEM. for the next 200 years!"And so far he has been proven correct!"

Funny how so many like yourself seem to think the Great Society and the War on Poverty only benefitted African Americans in this country. LBJ's Great Society not only worked for African Americans but for over 40 years the House and Senate were controlled by the Democrats because those programs benefitted others as well. The generalizations people like you and the rest of the teabaggers make about the voting patterns of African Americans is ridiculous!! Maybe that's why so many right wing nut jobs think the way for them to regain power is to stop (at the very least)or put as many obstacles to voting as they can come up with. The really sad part is this: Right now there are literally thousands of youth are there who have no idea or at least very little about how that right was fought and died for by so many. Just to even get the right to register could mean a death threat for their grandparents and great grandparents. Now come forward and since 2008 every conceivable plot right wing nut jobs could come up has been trotted out in the name of preventing voter fraud. So the end result is many of these young people have parents and grand parents who are going to be denied the right to vote like their parents and grandparents of past generations. Instead of going forward in time to full voting rights for all who are qualified they are attempting to go back to the days of Medgar Evers, Goodman, Scherner and Cheney, Viola Liuzzi and countless others who gave their lives for the privilege of full participation in their government. Eventually, these young people will wake up and see what is being done to their parents and grandparents in the name of voter fraud and they will stand in lines even longer than before and jump through all the hoops that have been thrown out there and they will VOTE THESE PEOPLE OUT OF OFFICE AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WILL BE A RELIC OF THE PAST LIKE THE WHIGS AND THE TEABAGGERS WILL BE JUST ANOTHER JOKE TO TELL ABOUT HISTORY.

September 3, 2013 at 3:48 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Libby, you're absolutely fighting windmills, Bub. You've got no right to the moral high ground. You've simply bought into the ether even more than the African Americans.

September 3, 2013 at 3:57 p.m.
ibshame said...

"PlainTruth said... Libby, you're absolutely fighting windmills, Bub. You've got no right to the moral high ground. You've simply bought into the ether even more than the African Americans."

Moral High Ground? You have no idea what I've bought into and SOMEONE LIKE YOU NEVER WILL.

September 3, 2013 at 4:03 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Well Libby, you're good at telling the "whigs" and "tea baggers" what they believe. If you're gonna dish it out, wuss, you best be able to take it. You hypocritical prig.

September 3, 2013 at 4:06 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Sec. Heinz admits civilians would be killed. Does that not make he and The Organizer war criminals?

September 3, 2013 at 4:14 p.m.
jesse said...

Ya know the diff. between an arab terrorist and a lwnj?

You can reason w/ an arab terrorist!

September 3, 2013 at 5:03 p.m.
ibshame said...

"PlainTruth said... Sec. Heinz admits civilians would be killed. Does that not make he and The Organizer war criminals?"

Did it make Bush and his neo-con scumbag cronies war criminals? It should have(especially in light of the fact they lied), but for whatever reason President Obama chose not to pursue criminal charges against them.

Bush and his scumbag neo-con cronies are like the little boy who cried wolf, sadly this time there may be real WMD's that are being used but no one wants to trust the intelligence. 'Fool me once, shame on you; Fool me twice, shame on me.' or as Bush the Clarence Darrow of modern speech once said, 'you just can't fool me again.'

September 3, 2013 at 5:05 p.m.
ibshame said...

"jesse said... Ya know the diff. between an arab terrorist and a lwnj? You can reason w/ an arab terrorist!"

Now that's what I call a really brilliant assessment. Maybe they could have used the person who came up with that little gem of wisdom to reason with Osama Bin Laden the day before he ordered the attacks on 9/11. To paraphrase another It's better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth (or in this venue, write something) and remove all doubt.

September 3, 2013 at 5:13 p.m.
jesse said...

Sounds like ibshame beez gittin a little RABID!!

Foamin up her keyboard!

Maybe it's P.M.S.!!

September 3, 2013 at 5:15 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

I do think that ibshame is “out of sorts” ... if you know what I mean?

September 3, 2013 at 5:31 p.m.
jesse said...

JT? Ya think maybe she's been in the "JUICE"?

September 3, 2013 at 5:39 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

ibshame said ...

Did it make Bush and his neo-con scumbag cronies war criminals? It should have(especially in light of the fact they lied)

What exactly did they lie about and especially something that would convict them of being war criminals?

But for whatever reason President Obama chose not to pursue criminal charges against them.

Considering what he has done, concerning drones and Libya, it was the only wise choice he has made. It probably saved him from the bar of justice but of course he has plenty of time, countries to chose from, and many potential murder victims so he could still get it done before he leaves office.

September 3, 2013 at 5:44 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

ibshame said...

To paraphrase another It's better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth (or in this venue, write something) and remove all doubt.

I don’t know about the other posters or readers but I never had any doubt what your intercourse activities would produce.

September 3, 2013 at 5:51 p.m.
conservative said...

Impeachment

By Clay Bennett

Mr. Bennett said it best!

September 3, 2013 at 5:52 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

ibshame said ...

94-97% of African Americans voted for William Jefferson Clinton.

Well he was the first Black president .... wasn’t he?

September 3, 2013 at 5:57 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

So libshame, you don't want to answer the question?

September 3, 2013 at 6:01 p.m.
ibshame said...

"Jt6gR3hM said... I don’t know about the other posters or readers but I never had any doubt what your intercourse activities would produce."

Tudumb I don't play those silly games with the likes of you and by now you should know that. Most of the time it's doubtful you have any clue other than what you have cut and pasted from some right wing rag you've pulled out of someone else's garbage because you're too dumb to have any thoughts of your own to post.

As for Bush and the lies he told, I could cut and paste for days and for a neo-con wannbe like yourself and the rest of the teabaggers(neo-con lites) it wouldn't be enough. So suffice it to say you and your kind don't get to rewrite or as some like to say revise history.

As for President Obama's wise choices you have no idea of what you write. You write out of your azz just like the rest of the right wing nut jobs on this forum and you get away with it most of the time because no one wants to spend time refuting your lies. It's just not worth it as far as I'm concerned. There are some who will give you the time of day but I only do so when it suits my purposes and it shows you to be as dumb as you think you aren't.

September 3, 2013 at 6:04 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Libbyshame full of self-importance.

September 3, 2013 at 6:08 p.m.
ibshame said...

"PlainTruth said... So libshame, you don't want to answer the question?"

Not sure what question you want answered, but if it's what did Bush lie about? There have been volumes written concerning the lies he told but for a teabagger like yourself who would expect you to read and comprehend what's been written? After all if it's not some conspiracy about the IRS or President Obama being some secret agent muslim sent here to destroy the U.S. I wouldn't expect your kind to understand it.

September 3, 2013 at 6:11 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Libby: No the question is still...would Sec. Heinz and BHO be considered war criminals. They freely admit civilians will probably be killed in a missile attack. (not to mention all the innocents lost to drone attacks already)... You got that? That's a question.

September 3, 2013 at 6:25 p.m.
whatsthefuss said...

Oblamama is repeating today what McCain has been saying all along. Interesting,,,,,,,,,

What yo daddy thinks bout that chet???

Oh and to answer your question, Mt daddy was a white man. Is that racist????? HA HA HA HA You be a dumb azz,,, It don't bodez wellz fo yo daddie! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Go axe him,,, Hill tellz u.

September 3, 2013 at 6:35 p.m.
tifosi said...

Who is your daddy???

President Obama has got you good ol' boys dancin' in circles.

Losers all of ya. Mid-terms are coming and DesJarlais is the best you can produce? Hypocrite on a stick!!!

GOP is dying. Bring on more of that Tea Party!

September 3, 2013 at 7:05 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

Remember the LWNJ’s pushing the theme after 911 that Bush had been forewarned about the attacks. That he allowed the attacks to occur so he would have an excuse to attack Afghanistan and Iraq. Yet when it is reported that Obama had prior knowledge of the Syrian gas attacks they are about spin. Bush was supposed to take bits and scraps of vague intelligence intercepts to know exactly where the attacks would occur. However Obama has massive amounts of intercepts from many nations as to what was about to occur in Syria and he let 400 people be murdered that he could have saved.

September 3, 2013 at 7:52 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

tifosi said...

Losers all of ya. Mid-terms are coming and DesJarlais is the best you can produce? Hypocrite on a stick!!!

As bad as you think DesJarlais is he will still beat any LWNJ put up against him. If there is any justice in the world then you reside in his district. Just think of it ... no matter where you live in Tennessee all of your statewide elective offices are Republican and they have complete control of state government. On top of that any federal representatives in this area are all republicans. It sure looks like your political concerns and vote means absolutely nothing.

One last thing it appears that Obama's performance so far has rendered the one vote, you did think would count, also wasted.

September 3, 2013 at 8:03 p.m.
rick1 said...

Jt, There is no difference between Obama, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro and other evil dictators.

September 3, 2013 at 8:07 p.m.
tifosi said...

Jt6gR3hM said... : "It sure looks like your political concerns and vote means absolutely nothing."

Nah. My concerns get you to react. Pull your chain and you bark. Speak boy.. speak!

September 3, 2013 at 8:10 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

Have you seen the photos that are starting to appear on the net of the many LWNJ’s politicians, that were bosom buddies of Assad, cuddling up to him in the last few years. I especially like the one of Kerry and his wife having an intimate dinner with him and his wife. They look so happy and satisfied with their relationship. It plays a nice counter to the photo that the LWNJ’s got so much delight out of posting where Donald Rumsfeld simply shakes Saddam Hussein's hand .... Don’t you think so?

September 3, 2013 at 10:22 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

tifosi said...

Who is your daddy???

President Obama has got you good ol' boys dancin' in circles.

I don’t see any dancing but I do see a lot of LWNJ’s that are absolutely in panic mode as their hero comes completely unglued in front of the whole world. As I said the other day, this may be our best hope for the future in that our enemies will laugh themselves to death at Obama’s antics. I bet Putin just can’t wait to further make Obama his “bit@# at their meeting in St. Petersburg, Russia. Obama better not do any bowing while he’s there or he will probably get driven home and not on Air Force 1. However he did send word to Putin, before the election, that he would be more “flexible” if he won reelection.

September 3, 2013 at 10:35 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

ibshame said... "PlainTruth said... So libshame, you don't want to answer the question?"

Not sure what question you want answered, but if it's what did Bush lie about? There have been volumes written concerning the lies he told but for a teabagger like yourself who would expect you to read and comprehend what's been written? After all if it's not some conspiracy about the IRS or President Obama being some secret agent muslim sent here to destroy the U.S. I wouldn't expect your kind to understand it.

So you're saying that you've got nada?

September 3, 2013 at 10:39 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

ibshamed said ...

As for President Obama's wise choices you have no idea of what you write.

I do know that the terrorist are starting to post how they think Obama is a “weak sister”. Their even taunting him by saying they are starting to feel sorry for America that we are led by such a weakling.

September 3, 2013 at 10:49 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

It's fun watching the left squirm, knowing this administration is making fools of itself. 😛

September 3, 2013 at 11:09 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Actually, it is fun to watch the right squirm because Congress has to actually make a decision. I think Obama's move was brilliant. He finally backed them into a corner where they had to act.

September 4, 2013 at 7:55 a.m.
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