published Sunday, September 8th, 2013

Obamacare and GOP obstructionism and other letters to the editors

Obamacare and GOP obstructionism

The GOP will do any sneaky trick possible to keep "Obamacare" from being fully implemented. Forty times voting to repeal and counting by the U.S. House! Red states' governors and legislatures refusing federal money for health care of people in their own states. When the Affordable Care Act is completely installed, it will be much better than anything Republicans have to offer. The only thing they have is to go back to the out-of-control costs we had, to continue stuffing money into pockets of those who control insurance companies.

Any time I hear about "studies" from right-wing outfits such as the Heritage Foundation or American Enterprise Institute (AEI), I know it is propaganda (misinformation or just complete lies). It may as well come from their TV network (Fox Fake News) or Rush Limbaugh. Some good news: Limbaugh has been dropped from many radio stations that have finally regained their sanity and decency!

Walter M. Benton, Signal Mountain


Save us from Bible thumpers

Many Christians take pride in those monolithic crosses now littering the Chattanooga landscape. They say the crosses will serve as a reminder for people to redirect their moral compass to their Christian principles; or that the mere sight of them might cause non-believers to be "saved." What nonsense! We are already awash in crosses. We see the crucifix in necklaces, bracelets, tattoos and emblazoned on T-shirts and bumper stickers; and it is mounted atop almost every steeple of every church. How many more crosses must we have thrust in our faces? And how large must they loom before these Christian zealots will be satisfied that their imaginary sky god is pleased with the enormity and expense of their handiwork? As for the message of redemption these towering crosses might possibly convey to "lost souls," well, good luck with that. Most non-believers are repulsed by in-your-face proselytizing, and these gaudy hunks of metal are not only in the faces of passersby but practically hitting them upside the head. It is not the eternal damnation of a mythological hell that we non-Christians need saving from. Rather save us from the arrogance, willful ignorance, and insidious intrusions of the Bible thumpers themselves!

Rick Armstrong, Monteagle, Tenn.


Praise to all who follow Bible

As a wife, mother, grandmother and long-time teacher and because my husband and I are followers of Jesus Christ endeavoring to uphold both His grace and His truth, I wish to publically state my joy at being able to celebrate Saturday, Aug. 31, 2013, as "ido4life Traditional Marriage Day" in Tennessee and for Senate Joint Resolution 134 which states, "Whereas, in Genesis 2:24, matrimony is delineated; it is expressed only between a man and a woman. God also told them to "be faithful and multiply." Of course only a couple that is both male and female can naturally multiply. I also applaud the General Assembly for referring to the Bible as its base for truth in a day when so many either ignore or make fun of the Bible. The Bible stands regardless. God tells us that it is His word, authenticated by over 400 literally-fulfilled scriptures over a 3000-plus-year span. Our lawmakers showed themselves wise to base their resolution on biblical truth. May we citizens and our city councils show ourselves equally wise and courageous, Matthew 24:12-13.

MARGARET McGAVOCK BRYAN, Lookout Mountain


What is agenda of unions today?

My grandfather moved to Cincinnati in the early 1900s as a union organizer. The area was highly industrialized, and there was much exploitation of workers. Moving ahead to the 1940s, my father became active in a factory union to "help." He was an idealist and wanted to improve the union where he worked. After a fellow member was knifed in the stomach, my father thought better of it and left the union office. That is to say that by that time, many unions had gotten corrupt and were no longer "for the workers." I think the same thing exists today. I wonder why the UAW is so insistent to get into the VW factory. The conditions there are apparently very good and the workers are happy. Could it be that most unions today have their own agenda, and that is not to help downtrodden workers?

ANNABELLE LAUDEMAN


Labor movement aided all workers

On this Labor Day week, I would like to tell some young ones and maybe some old ones what Labor Day means. Before the labor movement in the United States, we had child labor, slave-type labor among our workers, no safety regulations, no minimum wage -- actually not a whole lot of hope for the working American to achieve the American dream. We still have a long way to go by both political parties that do not seem to care about anything except getting re-elected. If it were not for the union movement many years ago the moguls of this country had no intention of giving our workers a break. One need only to read the history of the conditions we had before most of us stuck together. The bosses struck back in force, and many workers died. Thanks to many brave workers we finally got some decent working conditions for all future workers. Hope everyone thinks about what is best for all of us. Don't let some politicians diminish Medicare, Social Security, minimum wage and unions. I'm not saying what party wants to do this; you need to study that on your own.

JACK PINE Dunlap, Tenn.


Hunters shouldn't shoot for 'sport'

Let me begin with the fact that I am a lifelong ethical hunter, therefore I am disturbed by a statement supposedly quoted from TWRA spokesperson Dan Hicks. If in fact Mr. Hicks made the statement of hunting cranes "not being all for sport" I am led to believe that TWRA promotes "sport" hunting rather than ethical hunting. An ethical hunter eats what he harvests and does not take the life of an animal for sport. A person that will sport-shoot an animal is the type that gives all hunters a bad name whether deserved or not.

JIMMY MABRY, Hixson


Use signature ID to prevent fraud

I became a poll worker in 1999, and I read with interest the article (The Tennessean, Aug. 27) regarding the recent lawsuit over the new photo ID law for voters, which went into effect in Tennessee last year. Other states have also adopted similar laws. The promoters of these new photo ID laws claim to have the intention of preventing voter fraud at the ballot box, and everyone agrees that voter fraud must always be addressed, even though it is extremely rare. However, as I listen to the public debate, I notice that important information is omitted. The fact is, we have always had a highly effective (and free) system for voter ID: it is the signature of the voter. Basically, it works as follows: Voter signatures from registration applications are kept on file for reference. When a voter wishes to cast a ballot, he or she writes a fresh signature in the presence of the poll workers on duty, who then compare it with the one on file. This is a time tested process which does not waste public or private time and money, as does the new photo ID requirement. In my experience, I've never seen or heard of any type of voter fraud that a photo ID would prevent more effectively than a signature ID. I support repealing the wasteful photo ID laws everywhere because they are a costly solution without a problem.

HAZEL THORNTON


Abominations can hit close to home

For those who think the only abomination unto the Lord is revealed in Leviticus, read Proverbs, Chapter 6, verses 16-19. You may find, as do I, that some of these hit pretty close to home. Maybe some of our learned brothers and sisters could list for us God's order of severity for all of these sins. I wonder how many members have been turned out of their churches for displaying pride. "I'm OK, but whoo-boy, you need to straighten up" -- or having innocent blood on their hands -- supporting the invasion of Iraq? Abortion isn't the only innocent blood that gets spilled, but it's the easiest to harp on, because it's usually someone else's transgression. And if you excommunicate because of wicked imaginations, you may as well close the church doors. Is the task of the church to bring the sinner to Christ or to destroy the sinner? If it's the latter, then Christianity is no better than the radical wing of Islam. Read Matthew chapters 5, 6 and 7 and tell me if true Christians can harbor in their hearts bitterness and hatred for those different. Didn't Christ teach us we have to forgive in order to get forgiven.

ALLAN BAGGETT Trion, Ga.

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ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Herein is Christian LOVE, The Love of Jesus Christ:

Dear John, or, Jan Q. Citizen. You have committed the horrible Sin of________ (U fill in the blank). I Love You. And I Forgive You 'IF' You REPENT of this sin and ask for FORGIVENESS.

If You choose to NOT REPENT and choose to NOT ask FORGIVENESS, then, it is on You. You make Yourself a Rebel against a Thrice Holy God and will be Chastised."

Don't You now see that we cannot remain silent? Don't You now see that if I remain silent regarding sin, that I place myself into the category of a HATER of that person who commits abominations?

Ephesians 4:15_Holy Bible_Authorized King James Version

"...but speaking the truth in love, may grow up into Him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:..."

September 8, 2013 at 9:24 a.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

To all of You who are enemies of the Cross of Jesus Christ: How can You despise the 'KEY' that will open the lock of the prison of Eternal Hell, Fire, and Brimstone?"

And, if You are the one who despises this KEY, then You will remain in a place where there is no doorway of escape for You from the above described prison.......'Your Choice'.

September 8, 2013 at 9:32 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

Ken Orr, I can only shake my head in incredulity at how anyone can be so pathetically brainwashed as you. The extent of your rationalization for finger-pointing and calling out others for their so-called sins in the name of "love" is disgusting. You need help but you are beyond help.

The Christian witch hunters of yore burned the "witches" at the stake in the name of love, too. They claimed that not only were they purging society of their evil but they were freeing the witches of the evil that possessed their souls. You are nothing but a modern-day witch hunter and you are just as deluded as they were. Thank god we have laws today that protect society from the nutty and self-righteous zealots like you from taking it upon themselves to carry out their sky daddy's punishments here and now. I imagine that nothing would give you greater pleasure than to be able to do that (and I'm sure you would be telling them how much you loved them as you lit the fire at their feet!) but instead you will have to leave it to your "loving" God to punish them in the afterlife.

You Bible thumping cretins represent the absolute worst aspects of your religion and you are completely oblivious to how misguided you are. You can say the word "love" all you want and try to convince yourself that love is in your heart, but you are so eaten up with self-righteousness you can't even see it. What's worse, you even take pride in it! If ever there was a lost soul, it is you.

September 8, 2013 at 10:34 a.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

It's Sunday morning. Time to watch Christian Comedy TV. Will God remove demons? Will God strike down arthritis? Will God heal the heartbreak of psoriasis?

Will God, finally, restore amputated limbs?

Nah, but the fundamentalist clown shows are entertaining. Enjoy the crowd shots where many of the same people watched wrestling Saturday night believing that was real too!

It's also time to "Spot the Savior and Virgin Mary" so gather the kids around the monitor to see if you can find Jesus or His Mom. Who knows where they'll be this week? Toasted cheese, window panes, telephone poles?

Fundamentalism - Thinking not required.

September 8, 2013 at 11:09 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

Daytonsdarwin, I watched the video clip of sightings of Jesus and Mary in all things from ice cream to Cheetos to trees to TV screens. I had no idea that there had been so many of them. Obviously God is trying to tell us something and I have been a fool to deny the coming of the Lord. Surely the days of the Rapture are upon us. Sweet Cheesus, I am saved now! I feel so full of love and God's grace that I have already compiled a list of sins that I am going to point out to my neighbors and friends and relatives so that they can see the error of their ways and repent of them and be saved like me.

On a side note: I was walking down the street a little earlier and I came across a pile of fresh dog poop and, lo and behold, there was the face of Jesus right there in the middle of it, with his flowing brown locks of hair and his beard! It's no mere coincidence that dog spelled backward is G-O-D. Praise da lawd, Jesus is everywhere...and thank DOG...I mean GOD...I'm saved now! Halle-friggin'-lujeh!

September 8, 2013 at 2:21 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

OMG! It's another god-dog miracle! Perhaps you should call the Church of the Giant Crosses and see if they'll build a temple to your god-dog poo.

If they'll spend $700,000.00 for gigantic torture devices, I bet they'll spend at least $50,000.00 for your saintly relic . While it's not exactly a gen-u-wine nail, piece of the cross, or body part of St. Paul, just imagine how many people will receive blessings from viewing it and give their life to Cheesus!

I'm getting a Word of Inspiration! Do you think it might have been dropped by this dog?

http://tinyurl.com/ljmu6q4

You can start a TV ministry where people send in money for handkerchiefs dipped in this dog prophet's poo. Why not? There's miracle waters, holy oils, prayer cloths, magic underwear, and now His Holy Poo!

"Don't be a Sinner, be a Winner--Send in your money for God-Dog's Do!

September 8, 2013 at 2:46 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

IF You are not a believer in The Saviour Messiah, Jesus Christ of Nazareth, then You may want to purchase one or more of these various oils You are talking about.
Why...why, You ask, would Ken ORR want an .....anti-Christ to buy any of these various oils? WHY??

QUESTION'S ANSWER IS BELOW:

ANSWER:~~~Because of Your knee joints.

"Now, now", You say, "What on earth? What? My knee joints???? What is that You say? My knee joints???""

(Drum roll)!@###~~ +

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~THE CLUE

After You obtain (and use) some mouthwash because of what You will be doing with Your tongue. Yes, 'YOUR' tongue! Yes,.. Y-O-U there reading this comment.

The 'clue' is found in a certain SCRIPTURE! Ta-Daaaaaaa! Although, even though, yet, but, there is a contingency. To know the content of The Scripture from the Holy Bible, The Absolute Truth of The Word of The Lord God of Hosts, Jesus Christ...You must look up and r-e-a-d the CLUE, which also, in some way, (which clues often do) gives the answer about why , without valid disputation, contradiction, or, acceptable argument, or debate You need to (if You are wise) purchase some given amount of the various oils of which You speak.

Here, then, is the Scripture:

ROMANS 14:11 (Holy Bible: Authorized King James Version)

September 8, 2013 at 6:18 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Why not expand upon the above and check out Romans 14:9-12?

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%2014&version=AKJV

Hey, what about Isaiah 45:21-23?

Isa 45:21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside Me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside Me.

Isa 45:22 Look unto Me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.

Isa 45:23 I have sworn by Myself, The Word is gone out of My mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto Me 'every knee' shall bow, every TONGUE shall swear.

September 8, 2013 at 6:32 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

"That unto Me 'every knee' shall bow, every TONGUE shall swear."

Isn't that a line out of "Deep Throat" or "Pirates of the Caribbean"?

September 8, 2013 at 8:15 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

Mr. Orr, you poor, pitiful deluded man. You just don't get it, do you? You act as if there is some magic bullet of a Bible verse that is going to resonate with us non-believers and bring us to our knees in reverential obedience to your sky daddy. We know your Bible, sir. We have read it and re-read it. Most of us have been raised on it since birth. But unlike you, we have taken the time and the diligence to study it objectively and dispassionately in order to truly understand its origins and its essence. And through our soul-searching and our quest for knowledge we have come to see it for what it is: a compilation of ancient myths as told by a primitive people with little to no knowledge of their world or the cosmos. It was the only way they knew how to explain that which they lacked knowledge to explain any other way. One must be a very simple-minded fool to regard it as an actual historical account or as the inerrant words of a perfect God.

It is truly a shame that you cannot grow out of your childish delusions and see it clearly for what it is. You can keep spouting verses 'til you're blue in the face, but we have seen the light of truth and reason, and that light is much more brilliant and illuminating than any garish light emanating from your fairy-tale God and messiah. For us, there is no going back to brain-dead blind faith. We are not the least bit worried that we are going to hell for daring to think for ourselves, because your hell is just as fictitious as the god-in-the-sky and his virgin-born, death-defying son that you believe in. Anyway, if you and your holy-rolling ilk are going to heaven it's definitely not the kind of place I'd want to hang my hat, especially not for all eternity! I'll take my chances in hell, thank you, if it means being rid of you Bible-thumping lunatics once for all.

September 9, 2013 at 12:51 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

I'll save you a seat, Rickaroo. And your drink will be waiting for you.

September 9, 2013 at 1 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

I'll certainly raise a glass to that, lkeithlu!

"Go to heaven for the climate, hell for the company." Mark Twain

September 9, 2013 at 1:10 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Holy Bible (KJV) I Corinthians 2:12-16

lkeithlu, Rickaroo, daytonsdarwin

This is why I, like Jesus Christ, have only love and mercy for You...knowing Who You refused, and, where You have chosen to exist in the hereafter. As long as You breathe and have a heartbeat and mind, i know, You can still change Your destination; 'There is still time to change the road You are on'.......ken

"Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ."

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%202&version=AKJV

September 9, 2013 at 7:21 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Saint John 1 says Jesus Christ lightens (gives His Truth and Light) ever man that comes into the world...every, every, every man....Saint John 1:9

So, You see, THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR ANYONE to reject Him, The King of Glory!

September 9, 2013 at 7:26 p.m.
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