published Monday, September 23rd, 2013

Gangs should leave, too and other letters to the editors

Gangs should leave, too

So Chattanooga's Mayor, Andy Berke, (tried to give) the boot to the Delta Queen. The laughable part of this is that the reason Mayor Berke asked them to go is because "they had complaints from some residents" Hmmm. So what about the complaints from residents who live in constant fear everyday with gang violence? I guess he will ask the gangs to leave too.

SCOTT HARRINGTON, Ooltewah


Evolution evidence grows and grows

As a deeply religious non-believer (thank you, Einstein), I'm mostly amused by religious people's inane discussions about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. It's when they wade into scientific knowledge about evolution that brings me out of my shell, especially when they're flat wrong. In a recent article on the right side of this paper, pastor Brian Cosby, claims that there is no evidence for "transitional" species which would demonstrate macro-evolution (no, a dog won't become a cat -- it doesn't need to, they're both successful species). But there is tiktaalik, a fossil that was found within the last 10 years, which clearly demonstrates the transition between fish/amphibians transitioning/evolving into land-dwelling four-legged creatures. Is that macro enough for you? Tiktaalik had fins and scales, so it could live in water, but it also had a neck so it could stick its head out of water and breathe. Fish don't have necks!

Another point that needs to be made: the creation of fossils is very difficult. Obviously, every squishy creature that ever lived didn't have enough stiffness to leave an impression in rocks. Tiktaalik demonstrates that we're still finding evidence for evolution. Pastor, keep thinking."

HUNTLEY DAVIS JR.


Bible speaks of our U.S.A.

Lately it has become fashionable to say that the United States is not mentioned in the Bible.

Funny that the forefathers didn't think so. They called it "the Israel of God" and gave cities Bible names and declared we "have no King but Jesus." Rev. Pitt preached to Congress in the early 1800s a sermon called "The USA in Bible Prophecy." Notable circuit preacher Lorenzo Dow proved from Isaiah that the United States is the Israel of God and stated it would never perish, inspiring President Lincoln to say the same thing. As publisher of the "1822 History of the United States by Rev. Charles Goodrich," I think I have at least the equal authority to agree with the founders.

Any nation that sanctifies its laws and covenants around Deuteronomy: 28 may have such blessings. In 1620, this came to pass. Early Presidents swore in on this chapter. The Bible continues as our sacred text which demands the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Contrary conclusions must be because these have no spiritual glasses. Or they lean too much on Babylonish tricks like multiculturalism.

JUNE GRIFFIN

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daytonsdarwin said...

June Griffin wrote: "The Bible continues as our sacred text which demands the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth."

It might be your sacred text, but it's not mine. As to any truth it contains, it's not in its scientific or historical accuracy.

It continues to be a book of myths, and like all religious myths it is metaphor.

If your God was as smart as you say he was, why didn't He just come out and say the "United States" rather than play pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey with the "hidden" messages?

For the simple book Bible-Thumpers claim it to be, it takes mental gyrations of convoluted interpretations to squeeze any semblance of your false reality out of it. You must be triple-jointed for those contortions.

The biggest blessing this country could have is abandon the simple-minded belief that the Bible is anything other than a work of fiction — like "Huck Finn" but without Twain's command of words and directness, and the morality of freedom from deities and religion.

Take off your thumper Coke-bottle glasses and open your own eyes. I broke my spiritual glasses at twelve when I realized they didn't help my sight, but caused myopia.

I've been seeing without that thick-bottomed green-bottle Bible distortion since then.

September 23, 2013 at 6:57 a.m.
LibDem said...

Ms. Griffin, Your letter is a little incoherent but I guess the lightning could have addled you. I keep waiting for that insight into why the "forefathers" forgot to mention any of this in the Constitution but maybe they too were addled.

September 23, 2013 at 7:56 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

I have heard June Griffin speak and she sounds rather articulate and gives the impression that she knows what she's talking about, but she doesn't have to say much before she has you scratching your head and saying, "WTF did she just say?!" Her "intelligence" is filtered through those "thick-bottomed green bottle" glasses of Christian fundamentalist BS you speak of, DD. Too bad she and other fundies like her refuse to take them off and see the world with fresh eyes.

LibDem, I thought the same thing exactly. Most of the noteworthy forefathers were deists - I know you and dd know this as well as I do; I have seen one or the other or both of you comment on it before. There were indeed many puritanical, hard-core Christian fundamentalists living at the time, and June Griffin likes to quote from them often and transfer their attitudes on to the forefathers as if they all shared in their notions of this being a Christian nation in the strict sense of the term. (Thomas Jefferson was reviled as an atheist by most of the preachers and religious folk of his time. Of course, he wasn't, but his views were so anti-dogmatic and open ended that he was relegated to being a heretic in their eyes). But the forefathers' frequent use of the word "God" was most often meant in a broad, sweeping context, not a strictly Christian one. Most rational, objective people know this, but the fundies like June Griffin, who see the world and our history through those thick-bottomed glasses, tend to see only what they want to see, or what those glasses allow them to see.

September 23, 2013 at 1:29 p.m.
amyinsparta said...

Everyone sees and believes what he/she wants to. Nothing is engraved in stone. And that's ok. It's when those who think their beliefs should be the law of the land that things start to fall apart. We need a govt. that will do for the majority instead of the monied minority. Whether anyone believes in a superior being is immaterial. Whether you believe that all people have worth is what is important. NO ONE is born and immediately wants to be a criminal, a drug addict, a poor person, a crippled person. Those things happen because of what situation the person is born into. How we, as a nation, treat and help those born into those circumstances is what will make us or break us. Right now, the fundamentalists have this thing about helping as long as the person will believe in their god. I ask them, what would Jesus do? I sincerely doubt he would ask the Samaritan to become a Jew before he would give him/her help.

Also, I have never understood why the fundamentalists insist on quoting the OT to support their views. They hardly ever seem to quote Jesus, their supposed God. Is it because he doesn't say what they want to hear? hmmmm...........

September 23, 2013 at 1:55 p.m.
una61 said...

kudos to Mr. Davis for speaking out about real Science. Cosby and Griffin are examples of adults who haven't overcome their childhood indoctrination with the myths of Genesis. Sad.

September 23, 2013 at 5:12 p.m.
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