published Tuesday, April 1st, 2014

Health Care

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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Hey, Bennett, the checks in the mail from the DNC.

April 1, 2014 at 12:21 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

Plus 2000 pages of law and 13,000 pages of regulations (and how many lines of code?). Minus, read the Constitution (or at least Article I section 8 on what topics the Feds can legislate on, and Amendments 9 and 10).

April 1, 2014 at 12:42 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

IT'S ALL GOOD

I'm still puzzled by the initial GOP response to President Obama's Healthcare reform legislation. Granted, he was naive enough to think that embracing a conservative health reform idea cooked up by the right-wing Heritage Foundation and enacted into Massachusetts law by (severely conservative) Governor Mitt Romney would be embraced by EVERY congressional republican, he wasn't prepared for the full throated hair on fire republican backlash.

The individual mandate championed what republicans once embraced: if you can afford to buy health insurance you should be forced to do so. Hospitals are legally obligated to treat everybody and too many people didn’t pay their bills. And those unpaid costs were passed on to the rest of us through higher premiums. One of the original republican talking points stressed individual responsibility.

Republicans know what's wrong with the Affordable Care Act and it’s not socialism. The individual mandate was only designed to get more people to buy private health insurance. (What god-fearing republican could be against THAT?) And what a bonanza it’s been! Have you noticed what's happened to stock prices? Over the past six months United Healthcare was among the highest performing stocks, if not number one, and a couple of others - maybe Wellcare and Humana - were in the top ten. (I’d like to take the Way Back machine to last November and buy 1,000 shares of each.)

Having more Americans covered will indeed keep people from having to sell their homes to pay medical bills, but the underlying problem with the American healthcare system remains firmly place: it’s incredibly expensive.

The U.S. is #1 in per capita cost and #1 in percentage of GDP. The only way to get those costs down is to enact a real socialistic pricing agenda, something no politician would dare suggest, but it’s stupid that the cost of an MRI in Atlanta is triple the cost of the same MRI in Berlin or London or Paris.

And it’s ironic that Wellcare stock has benefited so much in the past six months. After all, it was their proposed 39% cost increase that helped propel the Affordable Care Act through Congress. I image the shareholders threw one heck of a party this year.

President Obama hijacked the republican health care reform idea and I don’t think they’re going to get much political traction talking about repeal, and after today we're not going to hear very much from republicans about Obamacare.

April 1, 2014 at 1:15 a.m.
fairmon said...

80% of the reported 6 million signing up are either Medicare eligible or receive a subsidy. Many of the 6 million are those with canceled policies. So, how many of the over 30 million not insured before are now insured?

This wealth redistribution welfare program is like all the other welfare programs such as social security and Medicaid that depend entirely on the wealthy and young and healthy to finance and sustain them.

Healthcare is a state issue that should remain a state issue but once again the federal government assumes authority beyond that which the constitution delineates to it. Unfortunately the right to tax does not address taxation for failure to purchase. People will rue the day the ruling encouraging and enabling congress to do that was passed by SOTUS.

The AHA is here to stay and republicans mouth about it but have not the guts to address it. Any change in control of congress or the administration will not result in any significant change to the AHA or any other federal government activity. No political body has ever or will ever give up any power over the people.

April 1, 2014 at 3:01 a.m.
fairmon said...

BW48 said...

And it’s ironic that Wellcare stock has benefited so much in the past six months. After all, it was their proposed 39% cost increase that helped propel the Affordable Care Act through Congress. I image the shareholders threw one heck of a party this year.

In addition to WellPoint the same is true for United Health, Cigna and Aetna. I recently took some good profits on 1000 shares each of these and assume more will come. I will pay taxes on profits and higher premiums for healthcare but the profits will cover both many times over.

BTW biotech pharmaceuticals were as good or better but also sold these last month and watched them come down recently. Congress is asking questions so it is time to avoid those stocks.

April 1, 2014 at 3:18 a.m.
wallyworld said...

The AHA is here to stay and republicans mouth about it but have not the guts to address it. Any change in control of congress or the administration will not result in any significant change to the AHA any other federal government activity

Just curious, fairmon, you keep using the term AHA, please tell me what that is? You seem to be fairly well-informed, so you must know of what you speak.

April 1, 2014 at 5:52 a.m.

Blackwater, you libs keep trying to attach conservatives on this forum to the GOP. It's more projection from you libs. Just because you and other libs on here are slavishly loyal to the Democrat Party doesn't mean conservatives on here have any loyalty at all to the GOP. Saying that the GOP had their own version of government controlled health care doesn't make BO care look any better. Both parties are about control and intrusion into our daily lives. It doesn't bother me, as a conservative, to read criticism of the GOP. You libs think the Democrat Party is something special. That's disturbing.

April 1, 2014 at 6:57 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

A recent survey has found that one in three liberals are just as stupid as the other two

April 1, 2014 at 7:42 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

If the healthcare law is so bad, why do opponents keep misrepresenting it? Fox posted a bar graph comparing the sign up numbers to the goal of 7 million. According to the graph, 6+ million is about 1/3 of 7 million.

April 1, 2014 at 7:56 a.m.
cait48 said...

The Congressional Budget Office is estimating that, in the next year, in the 25 states that have refused to expand Medicaid under the ACA, as many as 17,000 people will needlessly die. Yes, there is a "body count" associated with the obstructionism of the GOP about the ACA. This country went into overwhelming grief when 3,000 people died on 9/11. There is also a monetary cost. The same CBO estimates that for every attempt that the US House has made to repeal the ACA it has cost an average of 2 million dollars. They've attempted that repeal 51 times (to date). That's over 100 million dollars of taxpayer money that could have been spent (gasp!) on health insurance and saving those 17,000+ lives.

April 1, 2014 at 8:06 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

keithlu: Misrepresenting? See cait48 ^^^

April 1, 2014 at 8:15 a.m.
alprova said...

wallyworld asked: "Just curious, fairmon, you keep using the the term AHA, please tell me what that is? You seem to be fairly well-informed, so you must know of what you speak."

Didn't you ask this same question last week?

Affordable HealthCare Act

April 1, 2014 at 8:19 a.m.
cait48 said...

Plain Truth: I'm not so sure that quoting the CBO is "misrepresenting" but whatever helps you sleep at night.

April 1, 2014 at 8:20 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

who's the nit-picker?

April 1, 2014 at 8:21 a.m.
alprova said...

See for yourself how ACCURATE, fair and balanced Fox news is;

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/03/31/dishonest-fox-charts-obamacare-enrollment-editi/198679

Apparently, the person who made that graph, cannot count to seven.

One would look at the graph and assume each line represented 1 million people. According to the graph, slightly over 7 million takes 8 lines to achieve.

And of course, six million only takes three lines.

April 1, 2014 at 8:25 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Approve, that's the graph. (I am on a new android tablet and haven't learned how to link.) If the enrollment numbers do not support their claim, they should not mention them. But to use a misleading graph is a common method to misrepresent the numbers. Why did they feel compelled to do this?

April 1, 2014 at 8:29 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

cait: Pretty sure you're not so quick to quote CBO when they report the future costs of obamacare. huh?

April 1, 2014 at 8:29 a.m.
conservative said...

Here are some quotes for you.

Mr. Anthony Provancer, a.k.a. alprova wrote:

"Jesus sinned"

"Jesus cannot be God"

"The Bible never has been the word of God and you will never make it so"

"The idea that we are to accept a mass-murderer as an object of worship doesn't reflect well upon Christians at all. If he murdered nearly every human on the planet, God is far more heinous than Hitler. Yet Christians are to willfully worship him without question. Why?"

April 1, 2014 at 8:41 a.m.
alprova said...

pt wrote: "cait: Pretty sure you're not so quick to quote CBO when they report the future costs of obamacare. huh?"

What amazes me every single time people like yourself wade in on any issue regarding health care, is that you do so with the full knowledge that you are a Medicare recipient.

You have absolutely no dog running in any race that has a thing to do with health care. You're all set. You've got yours, and any increases coming your way amount to a few bucks, at worst.

You sit around and bash something that is totally irrelevant to your life, which makes you quite the moron.

But carry on.

April 1, 2014 at 8:43 a.m.
conservative said...

Attention Mr. Anthony Provancher, a.k.a. alprova, you wrote:

"You want to "instruct" me? Then get busy digging up the Biblical proof that Christians are exempt from adhering to the Ten Commandments that you claim only apply to ancient Jews."

I am calling you out on that lie.

You constantly lie!

You are an inveterate liar!

I have made no such claim. You lied!

You can't paste any statement by me making such a claim. You lied!

April 1, 2014 at 8:47 a.m.
alprova said...

Connie, if you must publish my name several times a day, will you have the courtesy to spell it correctly?

April 1, 2014 at 8:48 a.m.
conservative said...

Name: Anthony Provancher

Gender: M

Hometown: Limestone, Maine

Location: Rossville, Georgia

Occupation: Used Car Dealer, CPA

April 1, 2014 at 8:54 a.m.
alprova said...

Thank you, Mr. Yellow Belly, who is now cowering behind his anonymous moniker, and who has such a close relationship with God and is gifted with so much Biblical knowledge, that he cannot find the Biblical proof to disprove one of my statements, which are most definitely found in his many copies of the Bible.

April 1, 2014 at 9:02 a.m.
hotdiggity said...

Conservative, you need a reboot. Do you seriously have to display your messages in bold 1" fonts. Are you so starved for attention that you have to act like a petulant child, endlessly posting the same thing over and over. Geez, grow up. You appear very insecure.

April 1, 2014 at 9:11 a.m.
MickeyRat said...

PlainTruth (aka Sandwich Board Prevaricator),

I searched the label 'idiots' as applied to both liberals and conservatives and was generously returned the following results (while using the word “about” to get some nice round numbers):

‘Liberals are idiots’ – 32,300 results.

‘Liberal idiots’ – 93,600 results.

‘Conservatives are idiots’ – 23,500 results.

‘Conservative idiots’ – 47,900 results.

So in the ‘interwebs’-centered universe (the one true universe), liberals were hit with the ‘idiots’ label about 125,900 times – while conservatives were ‘idiots’ about 71,400 times. By placing Census data, a two year old #Atlantic Monthly article, and internet gathered data into my organic gun powder fueled computer, I arrived at this reasoned conclusion:

Conservatives (like yourself) are much more likely to be idiots while also being more likely to call their political opponents 'idiots'.

I suppose this data can be used by an excellence specialist, and might even be able to make a situation that the knowledgeable sessions of the Americas are programmed into a unique way of traditional group-think.

But as it stands, the conclusion is hard to refute.

More liberals have college degrees. More conservatives don’t. And whoo boy, those conservatives like to throw the 'idiot' label.

Takes one to know one – right fat boy?

#Why America Keeps Getting More Conservative.

April 1, 2014 at 9:12 a.m.
conservative said...

Mr. Anthony Provancher :

alprova said...

conservative wrote: "Wrong again!"

Really? And you've been arguing all this crap about Sunday Sabbath's...WHY? " I don't observe a Sunday Sabbath. The Sabbath is a Saturday. Sunday is another day, the first day of the week in Scripture."

Do you really believe that anyone who has been reading our exchange is now suddenly going to believe that you have not been defending a Sunday Sabbath?

================================

I went back to see some more of your lies and found the gem above. You wrote that I had been arguing about "Sunday Sabbaths."

Not once did I argue for a "Sunday Sabbath." That is your invention, your lie. I wrote several times that Saturday was the Sabbath. Not once did I call Sunday the Sabbath. There is no Sunday Sabbath in the Bible.

You lied!

You can not paste any statement by me where I believe the Sabbath to be Sunday. I always called Saturday the Sabbath.

You lied again.

Now notice, now notice, Mr. Anthony Provancher, where you quoted me " I don't observe a Sunday Sabbath. The Sabbath is a Saturday. Sunday is another day, the first day of the week in Scripture."

You are one brazen liar!

April 1, 2014 at 9:17 a.m.
wallyworld said...

ACA - Affordable Care Act Definition: ACA is an acronym for the "Affordable Care Act", a set of laws passed in 2010. The goal of the ACA is to expand coverage to all Americans. I feel like I'm walking into a room of first graders when I visit this site.

April 1, 2014 at 9:17 a.m.
scolli23 said...
April 1, 2014 at 9:46 a.m.
wallyworld said...

While we're on the subject, even with all the distortion of facts about the ACA and trying to demean it by not calling it by its proper name, Affordable Care Act, instead of Obamacare or AHA, public support for the Affordable Care Act notched a new high in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll. In their childish wordplay game, the republicans are losing ground every day with their 'spin' on what's good for the average citizen, not just the top 1%or 2%.

April 1, 2014 at 9:59 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Apparently Fox just issued a correction on their chart.

April 1, 2014 at 10:16 a.m.

Oh, yeah, Wally, everyone just loves Obamacare. It's just great! "our great president" - Alprova, is so good to us. We're so lucky to have him. ABC/Washington POST, that's not biased. It's just wealth distribution under the guise of caring. One thing that really is disgusting is the way doctors, nurses, surgeons and the like are just pawns in BO care. They're the ones who work their asses off, and sacrifice. Somehow a pompous, narcissistic a-hole like BO feels he can come between a patient and their doctor. I hope all the doctors leave the country.

April 1, 2014 at 10:41 a.m.

BO and his idiot wife love telling everyone what to do, just like all libs do. What kind of health insurance we can have, what we should eat, what we should drive, what we can say, who our doctor should be. But, of course, they can do what they want and they don't have to abide by the rules we do.

April 1, 2014 at 10:43 a.m.
alprova said...

But...Z-man...He's the President. Of course he doesn't have to live by the same rules.

He's exceptional.

Just curious...Has your personal health care insurance coverage been changed? Have you been forced to alter your diet? Have you been forced to trade your personal conveyance of choice? Have you been forced to choose another Doctor?

What gives you any cause to bitch day in and day out? How has your life changed because of the man in the White House?

April 1, 2014 at 11 a.m.
whatsthefuss said...

WAAAZZZZ UP My Brothers,,

Now that u got the hard work out of the way,,,,, Trash Talkin,,,, Shizzle my Nizzle and listen up.

Wats wrong with the Soul Man's Plan, AKA The Affordable Health Care Act is it ain't nowheerez neeer affordable. You dig?

Sorry you gots your jaws all greesed up for nothin this fine morning but quit yo squackin and lern the new math. Health care costs iz and have been fo years OUT OF CONTROL. Heerz another gem. So is the cost of a college education to become a doctor. So until the Black Mamba decides to stop speaking with his forked tounge and all you Afro Sheen lovin white dumbasses continue to bow at his feet, just keep payin the piper because he gonna keep playin that same tune.

Axe Ike Out! Peace White Brothers! Or mayb u be sisters?

April 1, 2014 at 11:35 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"what we should eat, what we should drive, what we can say"

Oh yeah Fister, how so? If you want to stuff your face with Taco Bell, All-you-can-eat buffets, donuts, and then wash it all down with Mountain Dews, who is stopping you? Fast Food joints are popping up all over the place, they dominate the landscape, so what laws are preventing that? That is some of the worst crap you can put in your body and no one is imposing any type of restrictions on them. Encouraging people to eat healthy and forcing people to eat healthy are two opposite things.

You doom and gloom "conservatives" act like big babies. "Obama wants us to eat healthy, but I want to eat two triple chili cheese burgers whenever I want". "He's stealing our freedoms", blah, blah, blah.

April 1, 2014 at 11:48 a.m.
nurseforjustice said...

WOW!!! that was a big mistake by Fox news. Glad they saw fit to correct it.

I do happen to know a few doctors that are planning on early retirement because of AHA/ACA. Don't know why, they did not tell me the ins and outs but that is what some are saying.

There are good and bad points to the law but I believe the bad outweighs the good. Many changes should be made.

April 1, 2014 at 1:30 p.m.

What? No, you libs are doom and gloom, and control. More projection from a lib, which is what you libs do really well.

"obama will require" "obama wants". How about staying out of our lives? I eat healthy not because BO and MO tell me to, I do it on my own. Imagine that. But, if I choose to eat garbage, that my business as well. Nanny state harpy/MO is a control freak.

Regarding BO scare, the only reason there's a rush to sign up at the end here is because people fear being punished by the gov. Now we're made to feel like criminals if we don't have health insurance by a certain time. BO is a bully at heart.

April 1, 2014 at 1:35 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Boy at the sour grapes from the reds of the room.

April 1, 2014 at 1:38 p.m.
conservative said...

Well, there is inquiringmind.

No, response from you yet.

Wise decision.

April 1, 2014 at 2:07 p.m.
conservative said...

nurseforjustice:

The last time I saw you here, you were falsely accusing me of slandering Mr. Anthony Provancher without giving even one example.

You gave me a definition of slander in your failed attempt to make your false accusation stick.

Mr. Anthony Provancher has written the following and I confronted him with it:

You still insult with addressing me as "connie" and charging me with "insanity" and claiming I am "bat-crap crazy."

You have called me "connie."

You have called me "con man."

You have called me an "idiot."

have called me a " moron."

You have called me a "Homosexual."

You have accused me of being in the "porn" business.

You have accused me of "masturbating" while I type.

You have told me to "masturbate."

Does any of this fit your definition of slander nurseforjustice?

April 1, 2014 at 2:21 p.m.

Libs and the left love to scare and hold a gun to everyone's head.

You WILL buy health insurance or else, the earth will be destroyed in 10 years because of global warming, you will accept sodomy as normal or you're branded a homophobe, you better accept man made global warming or you will be labeled a "climate change denier", (which is the same as denying the holocaust) you will not criticize illegal aliens from Mexico, if you do, then you're xenophobe.

The only reason people are scrambling to get coverage is because BO is holding a gun to their heads.

April 1, 2014 at 2:36 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Libs get illish trying to defend the indefensible. I know you guys must be embarrassed.

April 1, 2014 at 2:49 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man, you really need to adjust the meds or stop smoking weed..

You're totally paranoid.

April 1, 2014 at 2:51 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Actually, climate change denial and holocaust denial are similar. "The earth will be destroyed in 10 years" is a straw man, though. No climate scientist says that.

April 1, 2014 at 2:53 p.m.
alprova said...

Holy Sh!t!!

Connie's going after EVERYONE today!!!

Connie, why don't you post and ad in the personal's section of Craigslist, seeking some male company?

It'll give you something to do with all this time you seem to have.

April 1, 2014 at 2:53 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

^^^ same could be said to SewerRat. Guess he wants to get into a battle of diplomas. Careful, Rat, that might eliminate a bunch of your allies on here.

April 1, 2014 at 2:54 p.m.
fairmon said...

wallyworld said...

The AHA is here to stay and republicans mouth about it but have not the guts to address it. Any change in control of congress or the administration will not result in any significant change to the AHA any other federal government activity

Just curious, fairmon, you keep using the term AHA, please tell me what that is? You seem to be fairly well-informed, so you must know of what you speak.

Try PPACA in place of AHA which I prefer (A)affordable (H)healthinsurance (A)act. Affordable health insurance does equal patient protection, affordable or quality healthcare. It means you must have health insurance meeting government criteria and if you qualify someone else will pay all or some of your premiums.

When 80% of those signing up are subsidized there is some heavy wealth distribution going on, nothing is free, to subsidize one person the government has to take it from someone else. Insurers were almost as thrilled with it as alprova but some are getting a little anxious with all the short notice changes in the act. It must still just be an act since a law is not that easily changed.

April 1, 2014 at 3:27 p.m.
fairmon said...

The PPACA is here to stay just be sure you don't earn so much you lose your subsidy. Do you think there is incentive for a some healthy people to get free healthcare, food vouchers, free housing, free utilities, free cell phone time, transportation vouchers and a few other freebies and pick up a cash job here and there when not on the beach or enjoying some other favorite recreation? The smart ones know just how much to report as income to not lose anything and get an earned income credit back. How many cohabiting couples across the country are not married so one can obtain the benefits while the other has a good paying job?

April 1, 2014 at 3:39 p.m.
MickeyRat said...

O illiterate loiterer of Truthiness Plain,

You speak so unskillfully: or, if your knowledge be more, it is much darkened with ill-bred malice. Hast thou a word, or wit, or is it wholly but impudence that can yet do thee offer?

April 1, 2014 at 3:49 p.m.
wallyworld said...

Yes, I've seen the acronym PPACA, but never, except from you the acronym, AHA. They assign acronyms so you are able to determine exactly what you're referencing.

April 1, 2014 at 4:02 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

""obama will require" "obama wants". How about staying out of our lives?"

Explain how he is in our lives any more than any other recent president was? M. Obama has a "eat healthy" initiative, Nancy Reagan had the "Just Say No" campaign. I don't see why you are all up in arms except that you want to bitch and moan because of who she is married. It's like you guys hear something on talk radio or on Fox News and you just echo what they are sharing.

April 1, 2014 at 4:12 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"the earth will be destroyed in 10 years because of global warming, you will accept sodomy as normal or you're branded a homophobe, you better accept man made global warming or you will be labeled a "climate change denier", (which is the same as denying the holocaust) you will not criticize illegal aliens from Mexico"

The earth will be destroyed in 10 years because of the rapture, you can't accept homosexuality as acceptable or your against Christianity, you will not believe in evolution or science or you will be labeled an atheist, you will not criticize Israel or you're an anti-Semite...

April 1, 2014 at 4:17 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Waiting for you to digest the passages I sent you a few days ago, they strike "pretty close to home for you," but spare us your polemic here.

April 1, 2014 at 5:05 p.m.
fairmon said...

wallyworld said...

Yes, I've seen the acronym PPACA, but never, except from you the acronym, AHA. They assign acronyms so you are able to determine exactly what you're referencing.

I understand the use of acronyms which is my reason for using AHA as affordable health insurance since affordable care is not an accurate description.

PPACA is another ingenious welfare program disguised well to be paid for by the young hard working and successful of all ages. I am very confident not one member of congress or the administration has a clue of the level of abuse, fraud, misuse and tax evasion that is rampant in government and government programs. I am just as confident that it will not change regardless of party.

April 1, 2014 at 5:16 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Dang cute, Silly Rat.

April 1, 2014 at 5:17 p.m.

Guass, I said nothing about the "rapture"

Homosexuals can do what they want, they have free will. They've been around forever. My objection is to the push my you libs, media, hollywood, public schools, the LBTG/GAY movements and the fed gov. to slap the normal label on it, and punish those who will not accept it as normal. I'm not approaching it from a Christian standpoint, just from a logical standpoint.

Regarding BO scare again, where do doctor's and nurse's rights come in? Are they just pawns of BO? We supposedly have "right to healthcare" why don't doctors have a right to practice their profession as they choose? Are nurses and doctors just there to be ordered around by the gov.? See, gov. dumb asses like BO, who have $hit for brains, love the idea of bossing brilliant and accomplished folks around like doctors and nurses, because it makes them feel superior.

The way doctors and nurses are being treated in this mess is under reported, and the topic avoided.

April 1, 2014 at 8 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

No Fister, you Republicans won't let them get married. You say "they can do whatever they want", yet you bitch about them pushing some "movement on them". You want some utopia where homosexuals have to keep hidden from the rest of us heterosexuals. And there is nothing "logical" about your "standpoint". For the hundredth time, you don't get to deem what is normal or not.

Look, my wife is a doctor. Everything you are crying about "doctors and nurses being pushed around" is a load of BS. And before you waste my time, my wife is not a liberal, nor a Obama supporter. She voted for McCain in 2008 and Romney in 2012 (she also voted for Bush both times). She doesn't like Obamacare (nor Obama), but she is not worried about her profession.

April 1, 2014 at 8:13 p.m.
sangaree said...

OHHHHH!!!! The hypocrisy of so-called Christian rightwingers!!

"Hobby Lobby has invested millions of dollars in pharmaceutical companies that manufacture contraception and abortion-inducing medication. According to a report by Mother Jones, several of the mutual funds in Hobby Lobby’s retirement plan are with companies that produce the very medications the owners are trying to fight insuring."


And this info comes from multiple sources besides Mother Jones, even a far rightwing online site called: Personal Liberty Digest.

April 1, 2014 at 9:48 p.m.
wallyworld said...

fairmon says: I understand the use of acronyms which is my reason for using AHA as affordable health insurance. Then it would be, in your logic, AHI. No, I don't think you understand acronyms at all. I think we should all just make up acronyms for laws and agencies. Let's call it the FBOI. I don't think this program that will help millions in this country to stay healthy is anything like the abuse, fraud, misuse and tax evasion that is rampant in our large corporations, that end up getting a tax rebate instead of paying any taxes at all.

April 2, 2014 at 4:55 a.m.
wallyworld said...

While we're on the subject of fraud and misuse of taxpayer dollars, I saw this article yesterday.

The governor secretly dangled a strings-attached $300 million state incentive package over VW's head just to keep a small union shop out of his state. This is one of the many reasons, Tennessee leads the nation in minimum wage jobs. We're willing and begging to work for slave wages.

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- Were hundreds of millions of your tax dollars offered to Volkswagen -- and then pulled back -- to try to keep the United Auto Workers out of Chattanooga?

For months, Tennessee Gov. Bill Haslam has denied any connection.

But leaked to NewsChannel 5 Investigates offer conclusive proof that the Haslam administration wanted a say in the automaker's deal with organized labor -- in exchange for $300 million in economic incentives to help VW expand its Chattanooga operations.

Now we finally know what Sen. Corker was alluding to when he said VW workers would have expanded production, but only if they rejected union representation. Congratulations to Channel 5 in Nashville for providing the public with some actual investigative reporting.

April 2, 2014 at 5:05 a.m.
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