published Sunday, February 16th, 2014

The Valentine

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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blackwater48 said...

ALLOW ME

On behalf of the tea bagger brigade and the tinfoil guild, let me say:

Boo-hoo, why are you picking on us? We're not bullies you marxist socialist fascist gay loving commie loving wealth hating kenyan anti-colonial muslim...!

See all the time i saved all you nut jobs?

You're welcome.

February 16, 2014 at 12:29 a.m.

More projection from the left.

February 16, 2014 at 5:12 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Obamacare's a disaster, foreign policy is a disaster, worst "recovery" in history, 90+ million people not in the workforce anymore, food stamps at all time highs, welfare recipients getting 50k a year on the taxpayers dime, dictator in the White house changing laws willy-nilly with the stroke of a pen, taxes are up, the dollar is down...........................

Hell, even with all this global warming, old man winter has created more shovel-ready jobs than Obama ever did. Even in the south.

Yeah right...republican policies are what's wrong.

You libbies are some stupid sons-a-bitches.

February 16, 2014 at 5:15 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Obama-We're the Most Transparent and Ethical Administration in U.S history.

Bill Ayers puppy dog lying out his ass.

February 16, 2014 at 5:30 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Toiletwater:

you're a marxist socialist fascist gay loving commie loving wealth hating kenyan anti-colonial muslim...!

You can call yourself names all you want. But it's so much more fun when I do it for you.

February 16, 2014 at 5:37 a.m.
wallyworld said...

Excellent post, blackwater48. If only the 'N-Jobs' would pay attention, a lot of idiotic space and time would be saved!

February 16, 2014 at 7:51 a.m.
Maximus said...

Just like a pot infused stoner, Clay Bennett, the hick from Bama does not even know what day it is. It's the 16th of February you stupid dick. Obviously it does not take much cognitive function or imagination to be a political cartoonist in the tank with the radical left wing Democrat party. Another boring, predictable victimized useful idiot. Gay rights, the right to chose, climate change, voting rights for felons, legalize potheads, free Willy, equalize income, seize the guns, Jay Z and Beyonce, Rickaroos Willy Wonka Revolution, bow down to the Afghan leader, surrender and withdraw our military, and Hag Hillary 16. See I told y'all that predicting the radical left wing Democrat party position is so easy even a cave man can do it. You will never hear the works individual or self reliant uttered by a wacky burned out needing a Nanny radical left wing Democrat. From now on we should always refer to them as Radical Left Wing Democrats. Repeat after me....Radical Left Wing Democrats.........part of our mid term victory strategy.

The brick should be inscribed U.A.W. (United Against Workers)! :)

February 16, 2014 at 9:44 a.m.
Astropig said...

@Maximus-

Time for the lefties to eat their words...TFP reports this AM that the state is going to go corporo-socialist to get an SUV built here.Another HUGE defeat for labor goons.

1) Union 2) Division 3) Rejection 4)Prosperity!

Vee Dub workers took doors number 3&4. Clay's mean spirited cartoon last week just might have been the difference.Delicious!

February 16, 2014 at 9:55 a.m.
alprova said...

z-man wrote: "More projection from the left."

What? You've typed most of those very words yourself.

Try denyin it and I'll post the proof.

February 16, 2014 at 9:59 a.m.

Democrats put the brick in wrapping paper. They like it that way. Like, "we have to pass the bill to see what's in it", or all the other surprises that are hitting us now in BOscare.

February 16, 2014 at 10:01 a.m.
hotdiggity said...

Hey TOES, please tell us what the Cons have done to try to help the economy or average Americans besides block every effort to recover from the Bush disaster.

Your party has offered nothing to improve our lot except standing on the sidelines wringing your hands and complaining.

Your parties vapid mouthings are bereft of any substance.

Man up, show some spine, and grow some cojones by offering solutions instead of endlessly sobbing and finger pointing.

February 16, 2014 at 10:08 a.m.

Al, huh? The cartoon is projection. Are you referring to Blackwater's comments? I was commenting on the cartoon. "Post the proof" what the hell are you an attorney? You have all that handy? Wierd.

Since you bring it up, yeah BO is a bully, BO does lean marxist, "gays" are treated like sacred cows, as are illegal aliens and the feminist sacrifice of abortion. BO is lawless and thinks that he can "do what- ever he wants". He picks and chooses what parts of a law to enforce, and crimes attached to breaking those laws come and go as he pleases. That's called dictatorshipe. BOscare will do massive damage in the 2014 mid-terms to Democrats. BOscare is boil on the ass of America.

February 16, 2014 at 10:08 a.m.
alprova said...

toes wrote: "Obamacare's a disaster..."

In time, it will become a Godsend.

"foreign policy is a disaster..."

Please, elaborate why you feel that way.

"worst "recovery" in history"

Utterly false. You're like the rest of us, in that you are too young to remember what it was like after the 1929 fallout of the stock markets, and the misery that lasted 18 years afterward, until a World War hastened the recovery.

What worked then did not work this time around, but make no mistake, this country is doing far better, by EVERY measure, than it was five years ago, and it continues to improve for all.

You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

"90+ million people not in the workforce anymore..."

That figure includes every single person who is retired, who is a housewife, who is in college, etc.

It's a figure that is quite meaningless, when put under a microscope.

"food stamps at all time highs"

No thanks to many fine Republicans who refuse to pay their workers a living wage, thus perpetuating the need for people to seek assistance.

"welfare recipients getting 50k a year on the taxpayers dime"

Where do you get that figure from? I assure you that not many welfare recipients are attaining nowhere near such an amount.

"dictator in the White house changing laws willy-nilly with the stroke of a pen"

Do you really want to have that debate? Look back at your Republican heros, wno have far more executive orders to cite.

"taxes are up"

They are no where near up as far as they need to be.

^^"the dollar is down"**

My dollars are worth just as much as they always have been. I don't know about yours. Maybe you routinely exchange them for Euros or something. I could not care less what they are worth Internationally, for I'm a domestic kinda guy...

"You libbies are some stupid sons-a-bitches."

Your OPINION is noted for the record. You are woefully outvoted, and will be for many years to come.

It's your problem to deal with. Not mine.

February 16, 2014 at 10:15 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

Good to see Alpo back, after a Saturday of ripping off good Rossvillians. Pass the bondo.

February 16, 2014 at 10:29 a.m.
alprova said...

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

The numbers do not lie.

Since the President is held responsible for everything that happens in this nation, especially by Republicans these days, why is it that they do not give him credit for his policies that have reduced unemployment from a high of 10 percent plus to 6.6 percent?

God himself knows that the Republican Party cannot claim to have done one single thing to reduce unemployment, since they have sat on their hands and passed nothing but mock bills to gut ObamaCare, anti-abortion bills, and have spent their time renaming Post Offices.

Housing prices are up...across the board. Who can refute that? No one.

Restaurants are packed to the gills just about every day of the week, even around here. That is my own personal measure of determining whether people are having it rough. People who are struggling to make ends meet cannot afford to eat out.

The Republican leadership has caved on the debt ceiling, which undoubtedly will tick off the Tea-Party, which is the same thing as the mainstream REpublicans giving them the finger.

Yep...it's a good day in America today. We should all be rejoicing in this newfound thawing of the icy relationship between Republicans and Democrats, all of whom know that the way they conduct themselves over the next few months, will most definitely determine who gets to stay and who gets to go home next January.

It's definitely popcorn popping time, 'cause the show is going to be fun to watch...almost as fun as watching Republicans defend their legislative records.

Yessirreee....Obama's policies are most definitely working.

Give the man the credit he deserves.

It's alright. We all know the truth and the facts.

Some of you just simply are in deep denial.

February 16, 2014 at 10:35 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

^^^comedy writer

February 16, 2014 at 10:46 a.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "Since you bring it up, yeah BO is a bully, BO does lean marxist, "gays" are treated like sacred cows, as are illegal aliens and the feminist sacrifice of abortion."

All I can tell you is that you had better get used to it. Converatism is dying a slow and needed death. Of course, you will be free to limit it to your own home and in your churches, but that's about it.

"BO is lawless and thinks that he can "do what- ever he wants". He picks and chooses what parts of a law to enforce, and crimes attached to breaking those laws come and go as he pleases."

Empty rhetoric that hits not one single target. Your opinions will never result in any indictment outside of your own Kangaroo Court.

"That's called dictatorshipe. BOscare will do massive damage in the 2014 mid-terms to Democrats. BOscare is boil on the ass of America."

Wishful thinking will get you nowhere. You might not have noticed, but the fact is that outside of Faux News, ObamaCare is not the topic of the day.

The rest of the nation has moved on and are getting on with their lives.

I know many people who have had their personal insurance plans improved, BY THEIR EMPLOYERS, as a result of ObamaCare.

My wife is one of them. She has excellent insurance, with all the benefits that ObamaCare calls for, and her co-pays went DOWN.

I know that is not an isolated thing. It's being played out all over the country, despite an all-out effort by Republican groupies to convince people otherwise.

You groupies are losing ground and that is a fact that you can choose to ignore if you want, but ObamaCare will stand the test of time. It's not going away. And the Republicans will not be in any position any time soon to put a stop to it.

February 16, 2014 at 10:46 a.m.
jesse said...

I guess the handwritung will be on the wall after the midterms! May be a lot of surprised folks!

February 16, 2014 at 11:35 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

All you marxist that claim to not watch Fox News seem know all about it. funny. very funny.

February 16, 2014 at 12:12 p.m.
alprova said...

pt wrote: "All you marxist that claim to not watch Fox News seem know all about it. funny. very funny."

What's funny about knowing what your opposition is saying? Seems rather smart to me.

How else can one determine fact from fiction?

Fox News is all about fiction and there is lots of proof out there to contradict them.

Marxist? Now that's funny.

You actually believe it too.

You do such a fine job of convincing people that you are a fence sitter.

February 16, 2014 at 12:19 p.m.

Oh, really..it's wishful thinking on your part. Obamacare, and the cost is very much the "topic" and will be. BO delaying this and delaying that is transparent. Obamacare will continue to be a problem because it's flawed and corrupt. Obama drones, like you, have moved on. Just wait and see, it will always be a "topic".

So, we should just have one mindset, one party, and all think alike. If conservatism is dying then why are Democrats scared of the 2014 mid-terms? Liberalism equals deceit, it always has. Rinos, are not conservatives. They're just as deceitful, or can be, as liberal Dems. Obama is delaying aspects of BOscare until after the mid-terms because he knows it will hurt them.

It's illogical to say that conservatism is dying based on the fact that most of the country is very much conservative.

February 16, 2014 at 12:27 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

former fence sitter, yugo-boy. you mopes have driven me slightly right of center. your philosophy is doomed to fail, alpish. Ever wonder why liberals insist they are fighting for the middle class but look down on working people? Ever wonder why progressives talk endlessly about diversity yet can’t tolerate the slightest dissent from their position? Hmmm?

February 16, 2014 at 12:28 p.m.

It flies in the face of reality to say that conservatism is dying. As long as people demand government accountability and personal responsibility, respect the Constitution, and want to be able to keep the money they earn, conservatism will never die. Liberalism is the philosophy that appeals to the lazy, lazy in all kinds of ways. If not for deception, liberalism would never succeed. BO is the perfect example, he's invention of the liberal media.

So, you're saying that in time Oklahoma, Kansas, the Dakotas, Wyoming, Texas, the south, Utah and bunch of other regions will gradually become liberal? That's idiocy. Look at Wisconsin and the success a responsible governor has had. He didn't did it alone. The people wanted him in there. Conservatism is about accountability. People are sick and tired of irresponsible a$$holes, whether they're Dems or GOP.

February 16, 2014 at 12:47 p.m.

Did everyone read that? Did all of you conservatives on here know that you're going to die out? You're nuts Alprova if you think one day we'll all just cross over to the liberal side. You have nothing to offer except loss of freedom.

February 16, 2014 at 12:54 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "Oh, really..it's wishful thinking on your part. Obamacare, and the cost is very much the "topic" and will be."

When? Where? The only time I even see references to it is when tuning into or onto Fox News, and despite all claims to the contrary, most of America doesn't even tune in or view their web page.

"BO delaying this and delaying that is transparent. Obamacare will continue to be a problem because it's flawed and corrupt. Obama drones, like you, have moved on. Just wait and see, it will always be a "topic"."

I have no doubt that it will permeate your conscience for quite some time to come, but I know full and well that you have absolutely no personal complaint with ObamaCare, or you would have posted it.

I've also noticed that none of the other Republican goobers have posted any personal complaints as well.

You're touting what you read around the web on conservative sites and what is touted on Faux News.

That's it.

"If conservatism is dying then why are Democrats scared of the 2014 mid-terms?"

Who is scared? Where's the proof that Democrats are scared? Fox News? Conservative outlets? You won't read that crap on left wing wrbsites, that's for sure.

"Liberalism equals deceit, it always has. Rinos, are not conservatives."

How laughable. Anyone who dares to offer disagreement or deferment to anything but a Tea-Party slat is a RINO...right?

I'm sorry to inform you, but there are more "RINOS" than there are far-right conservatives. You're vastly out-numbered and that is not going to change.

You people need to form your own political party to get an idea just how out-numbered you really are.

"They're just as deceitful, or can be, as liberal Dems. Obama is delaying aspects of BOscare until after the mid-terms because he knows it will hurt them."

That's your tail and you're sticking to it. I understand. Everyone's got to have a little hope. I do have some advice for you. Take a crap in one hand and wish in the other. Which one do you believe will be filled first?

"It's illogical to say that conservatism is dying based on the fact that most of the country is very much conservative."

At BEST...a third of this nation is conservative to any degree that you would approve of.

February 16, 2014 at 1:01 p.m.
alprova said...

pt wrote: "former fence sitter, yugo-boy. you mopes have driven me slightly right of center. your philosophy is doomed to fail, alpish."

Is that so? First of all, if you are so easily "driven" to the right, I sure hope you have a designated driver if you ever leave your hovel. Second, if our "philosophy is doomed to fail," why do we now dominate two out of the three branches of Government and despite every known attempt to disrupt the election process in this nation, why are Republicans ruling from the back of the bus?

You are so in denial of the truth.

"Ever wonder why liberals insist they are fighting for the middle class but look down on working people?"

Ever wonder why it is that you are fighting for the rights of child molesters, but look down on them at the same time?

Your statement makes just as much sense as the one I wrote.

"Ever wonder why progressives talk endlessly about diversity yet can’t tolerate the slightest dissent from their position? Hmmm?"

Ever wonder why you can't pass up any opportunity to personally trash someone you routinely disagree with, by making a snarky comment, like they do on Twitter?

Oh...yeah...that's right...you just LOVE Twitter.

You'd love to conform this forum to limit how many characters are allowed to be typed.

What a chump.

February 16, 2014 at 1:12 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "You're nuts Alprova if you think one day we'll all just cross over to the liberal side."

Sir, I never stated that people like you would ever come to your senses. You're lost. You're set in your ways. But you are a dying breed.

Younger generations will be far more kind to others than you are.

Younger generations will not be as racist, homophobic, so easily brainwashed, nor will they ambrace "conservatism" as readily as you do.

Life is too short to hold the kind of hate you have in your heart for others who are not like yourself.

I hope you find your way out of the hole you are in at the moment.

"You have nothing to offer except loss of freedom"

God only knows what freedoms you would deny others, if given half a chance. I know you're totally harmless however.

February 16, 2014 at 1:19 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"It's illogical to say that conservatism is dying based on the fact that most of the country is very much conservative."

Oh really? Then explain to me why there has never been a conservative that has gotten close to being elected president?

"As long as people demand government accountability and personal responsibility, respect the Constitution, and want to be able to keep the money they earn, conservatism will never die."

My main problem with "conservatives" is they don't respect the Constitution when it comes to religion or the 14th Amendment.

February 16, 2014 at 1:20 p.m.
fairmon said...

What gives Obama the right to change the AHA law as written and passed? Why are both parties in congress not insisting that the law be enacted as written and passed. The full impact of the AHA will now not be known until late 2016 or later. That is not a good thing if it is good for people or if it is not.

February 16, 2014 at 1:24 p.m.
rick1 said...

Al why don't you give a direct answer to PT comment "Ever wonder why progressives talk endlessly about diversity yet can’t tolerate the slightest dissent from their position? Hmmm?"

Your response avoids his comment so please answer it directly.

February 16, 2014 at 1:24 p.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "What gives Obama the right to change the AHA law as written and passed?"

The very same Constitution that gives him the power of the Executive Order, handed to every other President of this nation, and that has been used by every other President.

"Why are both parties in congress not insisting that the law be enacted as written and passed."

Who are any of us to answer that question? You need to pose it to them.

"The full impact of the AHA will now not be known until late 2016 or later."

And that has always been the case. It took four years for RomneyCare to see the end results, and no amount of denial and abent-mindedness can refute the fact that RomneyCare is working well up in Massachusetts.

"That is not a good thing if it is good for people or if it is not."

I'm still waiting for all the PERSONAL negative ObamaCare experiences.

This crap quoted by right-wing websites is REALLY getting boring.

February 16, 2014 at 1:31 p.m.
alprova said...

rick12 wrote: "Al why don't you give a direct answer to PT comment "Ever wonder why progressives talk endlessly about diversity yet can’t tolerate the slightest dissent from their position? Hmmm?" Your response avoids his comment so please answer it directly."

Sir, I ignore all but innacurate facts. Opinions are easily ignored and I couldn't care less about them.

Diversity, as it is usually referred to, involves a tolerance or acceptance of other races and cultures. PT associated it with differing political opinions.

I don't see any connection or relevance.

Thus, it deserves no logical consideration.

If you DO want to discuss tolerance for each other's opinions, I merely point to the personal attacks on those of us who are liberal.

Toes offered a gem this morning. PT did too. And let's not leave out Z-man either.

You are more polite, most of the time, but you have had your moments where you lost your manners as well.

And I'm sure I have too, but I don't make it a habit like some do.

Opinions I let go. Misinformation and lies, I will challege as often as I deem necessary to do so.

Truths and facts will stand the test of time, but no one is entitled to make them up as they go.

February 16, 2014 at 1:39 p.m.
rick1 said...

Al, you talk about people attacking each other and said "And I'm sure I have too, but I don't make it a habit like some do."

Yet that appears what you did when you responded to PT.

You seem to contradict yourself a lot.

February 16, 2014 at 1:55 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

It seems people from alpo's ilk are beginning to slam the dictator.

OBAMA APOLOGISTS SLAM LAWLESS OBAMACARE REWRITES

http://sreaves32.wordpress.com/2014/02/13/obama-apologists-slam-lawless-obamacare-rewrites/

I couldn't find an example of any other president changing an enacted law 28 times without congress. They're not even executive orders alpo, they're executive actions.

February 16, 2014 at 2 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Alps, Executive Orders are not in play when The Redeemer simply refuses to enforce parts of laws.

February 16, 2014 at 2:42 p.m.
dude_abides said...

PlainTruth said... "former fence sitter, yugo-boy. you mopes have driven me slightly right of center."

I know what you mean, PT. I had always been right down the precise middle, until the ridiculous, reactionary conservative posters here drove me to take an infinitesimally small step to the hardly discernable left of center.

Funny thing is, both of our statements are total bullsh!t, but you were completely serious! What a PlainJoke.

February 16, 2014 at 2:46 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

For all of you RWNJs who keep bitching and moaning about how evil and deranged liberalism is, and trying to make your unfounded argument that America is basically a right-of-center nation, here are some of the many ways that liberalism has already been stamped, approved, and considered a done-deal:

The vast majority of Americans are FOR Medicare and Social Security,and want to see them strengthened, not privatized or dismantled in any way.

Most Americans are also in strong support of our economic and social safety nets of welfare, food stamps, unemployment insurance, and Medicaid.

Most Americans are FOR public education and want to see funding increased for it.

Most Americans are FOR keeping abortion legal and accessible and believe a woman should have the right to choose for herself.

Most Americans are FOR gun control, at least to the extent that there are heavy restrictions against automatic and semi-automatic weapons.

Most Americans stand firm in their belief that we should maintain a clear and distinctive division between church and state.

Most Americans are in favor or raising the minimum wage to at least $10/hr. and having it indexed to the rise in inflation.

Most Americans believe that progressively taxing the wealthy is a good and necessary thing if we are to generate more revenue.

Most Americans are highly supportive of rebuilding our infrastructure and think that there is nothing wrong with government-funded job creation in order to get it done.

Most Americans are in favor of keeping our public parks under the government umbrella and not privatizing them in any way.

When asked if they are liberal or conservative, many Americans will say anything but liberal, choosing instead to call themselves moderate or center-right or even conservative. But ask them where they stand on these issues and most of them will say they are highly supportive of them. And they are all LIBERAL concepts.

The point is that most Americans are far more liberal than they think they are. They just don't realize it. Unfortunately the RWNJs have been rather successful in tarnishing the very word "liberal" and many people have let themselves be swayed by these idiots, such that they are afraid or ashamed to be thought of as liberal. But more people need to come out of the liberal closet and stop being afraid of the very label that has been responsible for the great strides that have moved our nation forward in ways that have benefited the many, not the few.

Liberalism has ALWAYS won out in the end and it will continue to do so. Conservatism, by its very nature, does nothing but hold on to the status quo, based on its fear of change. But human beings and life itself are hard-wired for change and for evolving to a higher level. We have been mired in a downward spiral of conservatism for the past 3 decades and it cannot, will not continue much longer. The pendulum WILL eventually swing back, and swing back with a vengeance.

February 16, 2014 at 2:58 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

dude_: You're a poor judge of character. Shouldn't an overpaid 8th grade English teacher be more perceptive?

February 16, 2014 at 3:10 p.m.
dude_abides said...

As are you, Orson Wellfed.

PlainTruth said... "Ever wonder why liberals insist they are fighting for the middle class but look down on working people?"

How the hell can you make that statement and then trash people who spend their careers teaching children? That's exactly what's wrong with you ignorant jerks, and that's why the ground is washing out from under you.

February 16, 2014 at 3:35 p.m.
jjmez said...

The GOP made a pack with the devil when they let the Tea Party take over their party. Now the Tea Party is jumping ship in droves, leaving the GOP and pretending to be Libertarians. Their goal now is to kill two birds with one stone (both Republcian Party and Democratic Party) and have Libertarian to come out as the dominant party.

It will be interesting if the GOP and Dems team up to beat them at their own game.

February 16, 2014 at 3:51 p.m.
TheCommander said...

Alpo said, "What worked then did not work this time around"

You are correct Alpo; It certainly didn't work. Yet you still hold to the same ideas that are failing right before your eyes by your own admission!

You still believe the same old progressive spoon fed garbage that war brings prosperity and that the great depression was caused by the failure of capitalism. I know your mind is completely inflexible but I'll try to put this link in front of you one more time.

February 16, 2014 at 4:33 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

"How the hell can you make that statement and then trash people who spend their careers teaching children?"

kids can't answer basic questions

Is THIS the result of your great teachers who teach children? they deserve to be bashed.


How Stupid Are American High School Students?

"According to a survey conducted a while back by the National Geographic Society, only 37 percent of all Americans between the ages of 18 and 24 can find the nation of Iraq on a map of the world".

"Even worse, according to that same National Geographic survey only 50 percent of all Americans between the ages of 18 and 24 can find the state of New York on a map."

http://thetruthwins.com/archives/how-stupid-are-american-high-school-students

Good job teach!!

February 16, 2014 at 4:54 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

wallyworld said...

Excellent post, blackwater48.

I know there is “grade inflation” but ... WTF!!

February 16, 2014 at 5:43 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

alprova said...

z-man wrote: "More projection from the left."

What? You've typed most of those very words yourself.

Try denyin it and I'll post the proof.

First, why would z-man deny that he typed those words and second let’s have your top secret proof, if he does deny it, that he in fact did so.... LMFAO!!

February 16, 2014 at 5:56 p.m.
dude_abides said...

TOES02800 said... "kids can't answer basic questions"

Problem is, their parents can't either. I remember school, whether you do or not, and I know an education is possible. These teachers have your little video game wizards and motocross stars, 30 at a time, for 50-55 minutes a day. It would take me about 1 meeting with you, your little Cody, your stringy haired-overprotective wife, and the Principal to decide to concentrate on the kids that don't have ADD, ADHD, RTV, HDTV or TBS, and let your lil' darlin' just float on to 'Just Busted' fame.

February 16, 2014 at 5:58 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

alprova said...

Since the President is held responsible for everything that happens in this nation, especially by Republicans these days, why is it that they do not give him credit for his policies that have reduced unemployment from a high of 10 percent plus to 6.6 percent?

And you’re the one that says that the 90 million unemployed is B.S. yet you post that B.S. 6.6% unemployment number. .... Your hypocrisy or ignorance is absolutely stunning

February 16, 2014 at 6:01 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Everybody at VW is talking about CROSSBLUE the new SUV! They seem to have gotten that idea not from VW management, but from Bob Corker, who has been in touch via telephone, apparently, with VW insiders who will discuss corporate plans with American politicians before they discuss them with their own upper level management. Maybe they can unveil their plans at BLUECROSS!

February 16, 2014 at 6:08 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Yeah, dude_, y'all are all great. It's all on the parents. Just too many stupid kids. And stupid parents too, I guess

February 16, 2014 at 6:11 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

alprova said ...

Housing prices are up...across the board. Who can refute that? No one.

Restaurants are packed to the gills just about every day of the week

The Republican leadership has caved on the debt ceiling

Yep...it's a good day in America today.

We should all be rejoicing in this new found thawing of the icy relationship between Republicans and Democrats

It's definitely popcorn popping time, 'cause the show is going to be fun to watch

Yessirreee....Obama's policies are most definitely working.

Give the man the credit he deserves.

It's alright. We all know the truth and the facts.

Sure sounds like a guy, with his home team trailing by two touchdowns, 15 seconds left in the game and the other team has the ball, screaming at the T.V. that his team still has a chance to win. It’s truly sad to see someone like you trying to sell themselves on the nearly impossible task of winning the 2014 midterms.

You do know that you live in a regional sea of solid Red and in a nation where your political opponents will soon command 2/3 of the branches of government.

You can look it up if you care to educate yourself.

February 16, 2014 at 6:20 p.m.
dude_abides said...

plaintruth said... "And stupid parents too, I guess"

Yes, Mr. Comprehension, that was my first sentence. LMAO You wouldn't have to guess if you could read!

February 16, 2014 at 6:21 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

GaussianInteger said...

My main problem with "conservatives" is they don't respect the Constitution when it comes to religion or the 14th Amendment.

I’m a Conservative and a solid supporter of both the 1st and 14th amendments. Although I would like to have a definitive SCOTUS ruling on the term “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” in the 14th. I don’t appreciate and am sorely hurt that you’re questioning my support for those amendments ... if you know what I mean?

BTW ... My problem with you Fleabaggers is your position on and disrespect of the Constitution that it can be changed to anything you want it to mean without going through the constitutionally prescribed process to alter it.

February 16, 2014 at 6:37 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

You know dude_, all joking aside, you really are a steaming pile of it.

February 16, 2014 at 6:46 p.m.
fairmon said...

"What gives Obama the right to change the AHA law as written and passed?"

alprova said.....

The very same Constitution that gives him the power of the Executive Order, handed to every other President of this nation, and that has been used by every other President.

Nothing gives the president the authority to change a law nor does it provide the authority to not enforce a law. However, it does appear he believes his statement, I am the president I can do anything I want to. He has about convinced me he can since no one in congress is willing to challenge him and he just keeps on doing whatever he wakes up and thinks about.

February 16, 2014 at 6:53 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

jjmez said...

The GOP made a pack(?) with the devil when they let the Tea Party take over their party. Now the Tea Party is jumping ship in droves, leaving the GOP and pretending to be Libertarians. Their goal now is to kill two birds with one stone (both Republcian Party and Democratic Party) and have Libertarian to come out as the dominant party.

It will be interesting if the GOP and Dems team up to beat them at their own game.

The mainstream GOP can not win without the Tea Party just as the The Fleabaggers can’t win without the Blacks or Labor Unions. If you want to call accommodating those voting blocks as “signing a (pact) with the devil” then so be it. If either party is stupid enough to agree together to beat down any of these voting blocks then the loser party will have shown their stupidity, to a point, that proves they no longer deserve to remain functional.

February 16, 2014 at 6:58 p.m.
fairmon said...

There is no constitutional provision nor statute that explicitly permits executive orders. The term "executive power" Article II, Section 1, Clause 1 of the Constitution, refers to the title of President as the executive. He is instructed therein by the declaration "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed" made in Article II, Section 3, Clause 5, else he faces impeachment.

Wikepedia

February 16, 2014 at 6:59 p.m.
rick1 said...

fairmon, Boehner is a coward and would never bring articles of impeachment against Obama. Plus he does not want to give up golfing with Obama.

Cry baby Boehner needs to be fired.

February 16, 2014 at 7:05 p.m.
dude_abides said...

PlainTruth said... "You know dude_, all joking aside, you really are a steaming pile of it."

That is shattering, coming from a bankrupt, (I've heard) retired Roto Rooter truck driver. You really know your "it." Your life has been, no doubt, a constant "it" storm.

February 16, 2014 at 7:09 p.m.
dude_abides said...

rick1 said... "Cry baby Boehner needs to be fired."

I don't think those are tears, rick1, I think it's just snail trails from the tea party dragging their bags across his agenda.

February 16, 2014 at 7:15 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"I’m a Conservative and a solid supporter of both the 1st and 14th amendments. Although I would like to have a definitive SCOTUS ruling on the term “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” in the 14th. I don’t appreciate and am sorely hurt that you’re questioning my support for those amendments ... if you know what I mean?

BTW ... My problem with you Fleabaggers is your position on and disrespect of the Constitution that it can be changed to anything you want it to mean without going through the constitutionally prescribed process to alter it."

Jt, I took an oath about 20 years ago that said I would defend the Constitution of the US. That oath never mentioned that I would only defend it while I was on active duty. You will never hear me utter one word about changing invalidly or disrespecting something I put my life on the line for everyday for 6 years.

February 16, 2014 at 7:31 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"Plus he does not want to give up golfing with Obama."

Rick1, you really crack me up. Do you honestly believe politicians from opposing parties don't hang out together or play golf together? Are you one of those guys that believes the WWE is real?

February 16, 2014 at 7:33 p.m.
jjmez said...

The mainstream GOP can not win without the Tea Party

Is that why the GOP is trying to distance itself from the Tea Party and the Tea Party is running in droves pretending to be Libertarians and create false friendships with the minority community?

just as __ can’t win without the Blacks or Labor Unions.

Are you saying no whites voted Democrat? Whites oveerwhelmingly voted Democrat this past election cycle. The GOP, controlled by Tea-baggers frightened many of their own away they became so extreme and radical.

If you want to call accommodating those voting blocks as “signing a (pact) with the devil”

Yep, that's what they did alrighty! Signed a pack with the devil and now they're trying to figure out a way to shake'em loose and distance themselves from the pee-party.

Feb. 2014_excerpt from raw story:

"Republicans in Congress are attempting to eliminate far-right pressure groups and purge the party of its more extreme Tea Party elements. The New York Times reported that FreedomWorks director Matt Kibbe complained of Republican Party stalwarts who are threatening to freeze out donors who give money to Tea Party groups."

If either party is stupid enough to agree together to beat down any of these voting blocks then the loser party will have shown their stupidity, to a point, that proves they no longer deserve to remain functional

Why are so many Tea Partiers now trying to change their image by calling themselves Libertarians? Shame? They know they went too far with their hatred, bigotry and intolerance? :?

February 16, 2014 at 7:36 p.m.
jesse said...

Looks likes Gassious is the only one on here that gets it!They are all members of the same club and all the name calling and fussin is for public consumption! It ain't personal to them, it's business and after business is done they hang out,play golf and fraternize!

Like George Carlin said "They are in this big club and you ain't a member!!"

February 16, 2014 at 8:26 p.m.
rick1 said...

Gauss, thank you for your six years of service protecting our country.

I find your comment interesting stating you defended the Constitution of the US. and we would never hear you utter one word about changing invalidly or disrespecting something I put my life on the line for everyday for 6 years. Yet Obama continues to us his pen and phone to make numerous lawless changes to the ObamaCare, and you say nothing while our President shreds and disrespects our Constitution.

Under the United States’ Constitutional system of government, the president does not have the authority to legislate from the executive branch. Presidents swear an oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution upon entering office. This arbitrary rewriting of the law is a violation of the U.S. Constitutional system of government.

With or without Congress I am going to act on my own. I have got a pen, and I have got a phone. Barack Obama

The people of these United States are rightful masters of both Congress and the courts. Not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. Abraham Lincoln.

I'm glad I crack you up but I know I would not play golf with Obama who hates our country, our Constitution, and also shows total disrespect for former and current members of our military.

February 16, 2014 at 8:34 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Part of that oath includes: that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States. I can't just pick and choose the parts that I think are applicable. Besides, Jt just pissed me off accusing me of disrespecting and wanting to change the Constitution, I didn't mean to go off on a military-service tangent.

"I'm glad I crack you up but I know I would not play golf with Obama who hates our country, our Constitution, and also shows total disrespect for former and current members of our military."

No disrepect, but that's just how you would react. A lot of these politicians went to school together, worked in similar industries, attended business meetings together, came to Washington together, so why would they end their friendships because of political differences? It's just like players from opposing NFL teams. They're knocking the crap out of each other, cursing each other, etc. on the field, but they shake hands at the end of the games. They go to charity events, strip clubs, restaurants, etc. together during the week and in the offseason.

Do you not have any friends that are democrats?

February 16, 2014 at 9:01 p.m.
rick1 said...

Gauss, NFL players are not destroying our country like the majority of our politicians are in Washington. I know most of the politicians are friends but they have forgotten what they were elected for and that is to serve and work for us not to become a bunch of elitist arrogant A Holes who do not give a damn about us and only care about themselves at our expense.

Boehner is one of the worse he would rather play golf with Obama then do is job and bring articles of impeachment against Obama.

Yes I do have friends who are democrats but they are not shredding the Constitution like Obama is and standing by and doing nothing like Boehner is.

I understand you were upset when JT accused you of wanting to change the Constitution but you have not said one word about what Obama is doing to the Constitution and Boehner being a coward and not doing his job in trying to stop Obama. In fact it seems you are making excuses for Obama and Boehner and all the other politicians because they are old friends.

February 16, 2014 at 9:24 p.m.
fairmon said...

It is naïve to think the bickering and fighting in congress is real. It is similar to wrestling, they know the outcome before it starts but they are damn good at looking like they are beating the crap out of each other. Does any one wonder why being a senator or a representative is a full time job? A government the size it should be and laws written as they should be would reduce the need for them to be on duty in D.C. to a few weeks each year. They now refer to their position as a career that would end if not elected for another term.

February 16, 2014 at 9:42 p.m.
facyspacy said...

Alp, you are talking about "involuntary unemployment" rate is 6.6%. A person is unemployed if they are jobless but looking for a job and available for work. People who are neither employed nor unemployed are not in the labor force. -wiki

Over 100 million people are not working. Whether you politics like it or not

February 16, 2014 at 9:51 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Dude, no bankruptcy. No root rooter truck, either. Your BS in English may, however, qualify you for a Rooter route. You're for sure familiar with the business end of the rooter. Happy flushes.

February 16, 2014 at 10 p.m.
alprova said...

Pt,you definitely went bankrupt. You clearly don't work for a living cause you live in this forum and on Twitter 16 hours every single day of the week.

You're totally pathetic.

But please...carry on. It's all you can afford to do these days.

February 16, 2014 at 10:30 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Alpo, still the serial liar. Comes easy to you, eh?

February 16, 2014 at 10:39 p.m.
Maximus said...

Uuuuuuuh.....Rickaroo....most Americans are too busy working to pay attention to what little unemployed shrimps like you think and I hate to inform you, most Americans would prefer to send their kids to private schools instead of the liberal dump that the public schools have become. The Baylor School is a great choice by the way.

And again Rickaroo, if there if such a yearning for you and Obama's "economic equality" why does this topic poll so low with the American public. And why is your Marxist icon Barry The Welfare Pimp slowly sinking into the depths as one of our worst POTUS ever? And you are dead wrong in your thinking that most Americans support abortion. Ricky move to Cuba you little socialist biatch!".........:)

February 16, 2014 at 10:41 p.m.
alprova said...

Facyspacy, I've stated the facts surrounding what has now become now your reported "100 million people not working" figure.

It's a manufactured number, just like the alternative unemployment percentage above that released by the BLS.

You're absolutely free to believe whatever floats your boat, but most of America finds factual information from more credible sources than CNS and Alex Jones.

The thought that the "true" unemployment numbers includes all these alleged people who have thrown up their hands in total dispair and have given up hope, not to mention are living on nothing at all, is quite and literally incredible.

But please continue to believe it, if it gives you a thrill up your leg for Republicans.

Someone's got to vote for em.!

February 16, 2014 at 10:44 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

alpo the liar says "..but most of America finds factual information from more credible sources than CNS and Alex Jones." *Like, say, Salon.com. Or perhaps HuffyPost? Or maybe MoveOn.com? Like those, liar boy?

February 16, 2014 at 10:51 p.m.
facyspacy said...

Well rep or dem, doesn't matter. I like to generate individual opinion from facts and experience. I don't know how one can talk about the percentage of people who are involuntarily unemployed (laid off or actively seeking employment) without talking about voluntary unemployment (people who may be seeking employment but fall out of the stats after a period of time, disability recipients, and welfare). The only positive thing BHO can take credit for is a booming stock market that the top 2% benefit from. Failures include ACA, Benghazi, aggressive inflation, weaker middle class, 8 tril in debt added to deficit, and the Pinocchio award in 2013

February 16, 2014 at 11:04 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

GaussianInteger said...

Jt, I took an oath about 20 years ago that said I would defend the Constitution of the US.

As have many more that post here but you seem to be one of the few that is willing to exploit it for some debating advantage you feel you may obtain.

That oath never mentioned that I would only defend it while I was on active duty.

You are so literal ... aren’t you? The fact that it doesn’t say it doesn’t change the fact your legal obligation to that oath ends when you permanently leave the military.

You will never hear me utter one word about changing invalidly or disrespecting something I put my life on the line for everyday for 6 years.

That’s mighty nice of you but are you implying your 6 years give you special dispensation to not be questioned on your political beliefs?

Part of that oath includes: that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States. I can't just pick and choose the parts that I think are applicable.

That kind of attitude has gotten many a military man around the world in the dock, for following unlawful orders, in violation of crimes on humanity.

BTW ... you forgot to include the part that follows you portion of the oath ...”according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice”.

Besides, Jt just pissed me off accusing me of disrespecting and wanting to change the Constitution, I didn't mean to go off on a military-service tangent.

Finally, sarcasm is wasted on people like you that wear their emotions on their sleeve. Do you remember posting “My main problem with "conservatives" is they don't respect the Constitution when it comes to religion or the 14th Amendment”. It sure looks like you are saying all Conservatives disrespect the Constitution.

My statement “My problem with you Fleabaggers is your position on and disrespect of the Constitution that it can be changed to anything you want it to mean without going through the constitutionally prescribed process to alter it” was only a sarcastic retort to your post . Get it Fool! .. you probably don’t as your are so thin skinned and emotional based.

February 16, 2014 at 11:05 p.m.
alprova said...

Pt wrote: "Like those liar boy?"

Sir...you can dig through the archives for a month and you won't find one cite from myself from one of those sources, but feel free to try.

So to answer your question, I don't like them much at all and am more inclined to seek facts where they CAN be found.

February 16, 2014 at 11:29 p.m.
BobMKE said...

"The only difference between a democrat and a communist is that a communist knows what he is doing" is no longer a joke but reality.

February 16, 2014 at 11:31 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

jjmez said...

Are you saying no whites voted Democrat?

Of course, that’s exactly what I posted ... can’t you read? You do know that not one white person voted for Obama .... Right? ... Dunce!

Whites oveerwhelmingly voted Democrat this past election cycle.

Obama got 39% and Romney got 60% but don’t let the facts get in your way ... O.K. Pal.

The GOP, controlled by Tea-baggers frightened many of their own away they became so extreme and radical.

RINO's ... Really?

If you want to call accommodating those voting blocks as “signing a (pact) with the devil”

Yep, that's what they did alrighty! Signed a pack with the devil and now they're trying to figure out a way to shake'em loose and distance themselves from the pee-party.

Feb. 2014_excerpt from raw story:

"Republicans in Congress are attempting to eliminate far-right pressure groups and purge the party of its more extreme Tea Party elements. The New York Times reported that FreedomWorks director Matt Kibbe complained of Republican Party stalwarts who are threatening to freeze out donors who give money to Tea Party groups."

From the N.Y. Times:

Insurgent conservatives seeking to pull the Republican Party to the right raised more money last year than the groups controlled by the party establishment.

Looks like they're not doing so well does it?

If either party is stupid enough to agree together to beat down any of these voting blocks then the loser party will have shown their stupidity, to a point, that proves they no longer deserve to remain functional

Why are so many Tea Partiers now trying to change their image by calling themselves Libertarians? Shame? They know they went too far with their hatred, bigotry and intolerance?

I thought they called themselves Tea Party members but I’m sure you have data that shows otherwise. If not it would make you look like a fool ... Right?

February 16, 2014 at 11:46 p.m.
dude_abides said...

maximus... I didn't see any swine driving around Chattanooga today in a brand new Passat, so I guess you decided to stick with the Volare for now.

February 16, 2014 at 11:47 p.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said to PT...

So to answer your question, I don't like them much at all and am more inclined to seek facts where they CAN be found.

Did your search find the fact that the president is not authorized by the constitution to change a law or just decide not to enforce it?

Do you reject the fact the DOL issued saying that only around 62% of those between the ages of 16 and 65 are employed, the lowest in over thirty years?

February 16, 2014 at 11:47 p.m.
hotdiggity said...

Wow, the baggers are out today. Endlessly sucking on the Koch brothers philosophy. Shamelessly swallowing a Koch belief of trickle down economics and moral superiority.

February 16, 2014 at 11:48 p.m.
fairmon said...

hotdiggity said..a Koch belief of trickle down economics and moral superiority.

I am not a fan of theirs but they are a minnow in a pond with sharks like George Soros. Is there one example of their success in influencing legislation?

February 17, 2014 at 6:29 a.m.
Maximus said...

Bought the Passat. She loves it! Non union workers make an outstanding car and by paying cash we got a great deal. Buy a VW Passat, you will like it better than most any GM vehicle where at least half the inflated price is going to some Obama GM union thug's retirement benefits. Screw them!

February 17, 2014 at 7:25 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Maxipad, you really are delusional. VW Chattanooga will be unionized within the next year. It probably won't be the UAW, but they will union employees. No amount of money, no matter how many billboards pop up over Chattanooga, no matter how many politicians preach how bad it will be; it's going to happen. It's how VW does things.

Maybe you ought to go trade in the VW for a Yugo?

February 17, 2014 at 7:47 a.m.
jesse said...

If a Democrat had thrown that brick it would be wrapped in a $100.00 bill and the note would say "Vote for ME"!!

February 17, 2014 at 8:22 a.m.
jjmez said...

jt Feb. 16, 2014 11:46 p.m. post said: Of course, that’s exactly what I posted ... can’t you read? You do know that not one white person voted for Obama .... Right? ... Dunce!

Not according to the Washington Post: excerpt/ "Obama's 39 percent showing among white voters matched the percentage that Bill Clinton received in 1992 -- -- and exceeded the percentage of the white vote earned by Walter Mondale in 1984, Jimmy Carter in 1980 and George McGovern in 1972. And, Obama's showing among white voters mattered less than did Mondale's or Carter's because the white vote accounted for significantly less of the overall electorate in 2012 than it did in either 1984 or 1980. In fact, the white vote as a percentage of the overall electorate has declined in every election since 1992."

jt-.=dunce ;)

jt Feb. 16, 2014 11:46 p.m. said: Obama got 39% and Romney got 60% but don’t let the facts get in your way ... O.K. Pal.

"And, while Obama did lose white voters by 20 points to former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney (the widest losing margin for a Democratic presidential candidate since 1984) he still won a clear popular vote victory -- with a majority of his total vote nationwide coming from white voters."

Remember:

Reading is F_U_N_D_A_M_E_N_T_A_L Comprehension is P_R_I_C_E_L_E_S_S!

Advice 2 jt: Make sure your brains are loaded before shooting off at the mouth, chica ;)

Now, go ahead and do the usual pee-party thang. Attack the Washington Post. LOL

February 17, 2014 at 8:48 a.m.
jjmez said...

Maximus said... . Buy a VW Passat, you will like it better than most any GM vehicle where at least half the inflated price is going to some Obama GM union thug's retirement benefits. Screw them!

And 3/4 of what you paid for that Pee-sssatt went into the pockets of GOP politicians like Corker and his gang. Not to mention their palms had already been heavily greased prior. Why do you think he and his brew fought so viciously to keep the UAW out? Their actions appeared to border on fear. Fear their backers would demand a refund? Fear those bookie bear boys who break legs and bones might come calling to get their bosses money back with interest?

February 17, 2014 at 8:59 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

^^^ extremely silly ^^^

February 17, 2014 at 9:01 a.m.
jesse said...

JJ is almost as unstable as Easy!!

BTW: It sure was big of AL to apologize and admit he was wrong about all that B/S him and easy started, too bad he relapsed into being an arzhole!!

February 17, 2014 at 9:16 a.m.
hotdiggity said...

fairmon said... Is there one example of their success in influencing legislation?

Well we can start locally if you wish. Can you say Bo Watson and the "Monkey Bill"? Domestic partner benefits ordinance? Perhaps you recognize the name Mark West?

Here's hoping Ted Cruz is the Republican presidential candidate in 2016. What great fun.

February 17, 2014 at 9:18 a.m.
hotdiggity said...

Maximus said...

Bought the Passat.

Sure you did.

February 17, 2014 at 9:24 a.m.
fairmon said...

hot diggity said..

Well we can start locally if you wish. Can you say Bo Watson and the "Monkey Bill"? Domestic partner benefits ordinance? Perhaps you recognize the name Mark West?

What is the connection with the Kock brothers?

February 17, 2014 at 9:50 a.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "Did your search find the fact that the president is not authorized by the constitution to change a law or just decide not to enforce it?"

Do you mean when Abraham Lincoln issued executive orders to control the press, suspend the right of trial and the right to be confronted by accusers, and other constitutional rights that were restored after the war? He sidestepped Congress and the Constitution back then too.

Executive orders have been put into place that allow the president to declare martial law, suspend the constitution, and disallow the ability of Congress to review such actions for a period of six months. The reasons for declaring martial law no longer need to be defined.

Read the Patriot Act. A long list of powers were bestowed the President, thanks to none other than GWB.

"Do you reject the fact the DOL issued saying that only around 62% of those between the ages of 16 and 65 are employed, the lowest in over thirty years?"

So? That can easily be explained by the fact that the Baby Boomers are entering retirement. Look for the numbers to keep increasing over the next 10-15 years.

February 17, 2014 at 10:52 a.m.
alprova said...

jjmez wrote: "And 3/4 of what you paid for that Pee-sssatt went into the pockets of GOP politicians like Corker and his gang."

The man didn't buy a Passat or anything else.

February 17, 2014 at 10:56 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

Slow day at Usury Used Cars, Alpo?

February 17, 2014 at 11:17 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

Maximus, regarding your 10:41 post from last night: I'm sure that if you refer to any number of polls conducted by your right-wing pollsters limited to right-wing respondents on the issues of abortion and income inequality you will obtain the results you want to hear. For example, if Faux News conducted a poll of its viewers on either issue, no doubt you would get results showing that the vast majority of those polled are AGAINST abortion and believe that income inequality is NOT a big deal. However, when the polling focuses on a large strata of society, including people of all ideologies, from conservative to liberal and in between, you get a more accurate result.

In the latest such broad ranging poll conducted by a Republican and a Democrat (NBC News/Wall St. Journal poll) the results showed that 54% of Americans from all walks of life believed that abortion should remain legal in all circumstances, and over 70% believed that Roe v. Wade should remain intact.

In the latest Hill poll administered to an array of conservatives, liberals, and independents on income inequality, 55% of conservatives thought it was a big problem or at least somewhat of a problem, 81% of centrists thought the same, and 94% of liberals thought it was a big problem, rendering an overall result of a majority of Americans polled believing that income inequality is indeed a problem.

So remain insulated in your little bubble of belief if you wish and allow to filter through only those "facts" that you want to mesh with your world view. But don't just make stuff up and think that because Maxie said it, it must be true. Chances are, if Maxie said it, it is bullsh!t.

February 17, 2014 at 11:31 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

Maximus (continued)...

As for public schools having become a "liberal dump," as you say, you are correct in that most publics schools are in bad shape, thanks to the fact that Republicans have succeeded over the years in defunding them by syphoning so much money into vouchers for private schools, leaving the poorest and most disadvantaged to languish in understaffed public schools with grossly underpaid teachers and limited resources. I agree with you that Baylor is an excellent school. It ought to be. The tuition there is over $20,000 annually for a day student and over $40,000 for a boarding student. I guess we could solve all our problems with education by getting the government to just write up vouchers for all the poor kids to go to Baylor, McCallie, GPS, and other pricey private schools?

As for me going to Cuba...why do you intelligence challenged righties keep making such moronic comments, inferring that we libs hold up Cuba and Castro and the old Soviet Union as models of socialistic utopias? It only shows how ignorant you are about what socialism and communism really are and what we actually believe in. Name one Democrat in the White House or at any level of government who is trying to tear down the free market altogether and issue in a purely socialistic state. Name one Democrat or self-proclaimed liberal who is singing the praises of Castro and holding up Cuba as a model of an ideal form of government. You reveal an astonishing degree of stupidity with practically every comment you make.

February 17, 2014 at 11:34 a.m.
jesse said...

Ya rekon Max mighta bought his VW from Al??I would pay serious bucks to watch that transaction!! Beez dealin LEAD back and forth!!LOL

February 17, 2014 at 11:51 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

Roo: Have you been learning the Tolstoy method of verbal diarrhea from Alpo? Good grief, man. Don't you have some starving homeless people to feed?

February 17, 2014 at 11:55 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

"I am not a fan of theirs (Koch brothers) but they are a minnow in a pond with sharks like George Soros. Is there one example of their success in influencing legislation?" - fairmon

George Soros ranks 19th on the list of wealthiest Americans, with an estimated wealth of $20 billion. The Koch brothers are the 4th richest Americans, with an estimated wealth of $36 billion each. I don't see how you can say with a straight face that they are "a minnow in a pond" in any sense whatsoever.

Since all lobbying goes on behind closed doors it's impossible to say to what extent exactly the Koch brothers have influenced legislation, but it is a fact that they have contributed heavily to Tea Party groups, global warming skeptics and think tanks seeking to strip away regulations on the environment, cut social security, and oppose healthcare reform. It's the epitome of naiveté to think that they have not been influential in bringing about legislation that has been personally beneficial to them and their business empire.

February 17, 2014 at 12:05 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

PT: Good lord, old man, you sit here on your ass all day long, every friggin' day, spitting out your same old sound-bytes of meaningless babble and you have the audacity to accuse me of verbal diarrhea? At least I put some time and thought into what I am saying and then I get out of here and go about living in the real world. I don't just sit here all day long like you, butting heads with people you already know you're going to disagree with and saying the same old things day after day after day. You're a joke.

February 17, 2014 at 12:15 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Thanks, Roo. My posts are concise, indeed. No need to research the truth. Out of here, man. Be productive. Feed someone. Feeeel good. Occupy Broad St.

February 17, 2014 at 12:20 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

jjmez said...

Whites oveerwhelmingly voted Democrat this past election cycle.

Yet he posts the below as his evidence.

"And, while Obama did lose white voters by 20 points to former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney (the widest losing margin for a Democratic presidential candidate since 1984) he still won a clear popular vote victory -- with a majority of his total vote nationwide coming from white voters."

I guess he was confused by the last part of that statement but then his type would be.

and exceeded the percentage of the white vote earned by Walter Mondale in 1984, Jimmy Carter in 1980 and George McGovern in 1972.

I thought these Fleabaggers lost in just about any category that you could define .... excellent choices.

Advice 2 jt: Make sure your brains are loaded before shooting off at the mouth, chica ;)

Chica? ... Is that supposed to be some kind of third world low class sexist or homophobic taunt?

Now, go ahead and do the usual pee-party thang. Attack the Washington Post. LOL

Why? ... they provided the evidence to make you the fool.

February 17, 2014 at 1:32 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

Rickaroo said...

In the latest such broad ranging poll conducted by a Republican and a Democrat (NBC News/Wall St. Journal poll) the results showed that 54% of Americans from all walks of life believed that abortion should remain legal in all circumstances.

Data from that poll:

Which comes closest to your view on abortion--abortion should always be legal, should be legal most of the time, should be made illegal except in cases of rape, incest and to save the mother's life, or abortion should be made illegal without any exceptions?

Always legal ...................................... 31

Legal most of the time ....................... 23

Illegal, with exceptions ...................... 35

Illegal without any exceptions............ 9

Not sure .......................................... 2

”Legal in all circumstances” .... Really?


and over 70% believed that Roe v. Wade should remain intact.

Also from the poll:

Do you approve or disapprove the Roe versus Wade U.S. Supreme Court decision? If you don’t know enough about this to have an opinion, please just say so and we’ll move on.

Approve ...................................................... 39

Disapprove .................................................. 18

Don’t know enough to have opinion ............ 41

Not sure .................................................... 2

Looks like it was 70% of those that had an opinion but the greater number of the population (43%) don’t know or are not sure, which is the real news of that poll.


Don’t you feel foolish that you ended your post like this:

So remain insulated in your little bubble of belief if you wish and allow to filter through only those "facts" that you want to mesh with your world view. But don't just make stuff up

February 17, 2014 at 1:58 p.m.
jjmez said...

for jteezy6:

Well, jt__you're the one who suggested whites didn't vote for President Obama. As in none, nada, zero.

Did you purposely didn't include the below in your bold print?

re: "he still won a clear popular vote victory -- with a majority of his total vote nationwide coming from white voters."

Chica? ... *Is that supposed to be some kind of third world low class sexist or homophobic taunt?jteezy6 said: *

U have such a vivid and warped imagination, jteezy. It's whatever you wish to make it out to be. Go for IT! LOL

February 17, 2014 at 1:58 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

jjmez said...

for jteezy6:

Well, jt__you're the one who suggested whites didn't vote for President Obama. As in none, nada, zero.

You’re so easy that it ought to be criminal to jab at you. You really should check at the courthouse to see if they hand out those little blue parking placards to people with your condition.

February 17, 2014 at 2:29 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

Rickaroo said...

I agree with you that Baylor is an excellent school. It ought to be. The tuition there is over $20,000 annually for a day student and over $40,000 for a boarding student. I guess we could solve all our problems with education by getting the government to just write up vouchers for all the poor kids to go to Baylor, McCallie, GPS, and other pricey private schools?


BY LISA GARTNER:

Despite being the lowest performer in most respects .... D.C. public schools are spending more per student than any state in the nation, writing an $18,667 check for each child, to oust New York as the top spender, according to 2010 census data released Thursday.

Meanwhile, Montgomery County Public Schools outspent all of the 50 largest school districts in the nation except New York City, with a price tag of $15,582 per student. Prince George's County Public Schools ranked fifth among large districts, at $14,020, while Fairfax County's public schools came in at ninth by spending $12,554.

Pockets run deep in the Washington area, as smaller school districts in Arlington ($17,519), Alexandria ($17,574) and Falls Church ($18,209) spent even more per student than the larger suburbs.

That was 2010 so they are probably paying Baylor type costs by now.

February 17, 2014 at 2:31 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Was there a full moon last night?

February 17, 2014 at 2:31 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

inquiringmind said...

Was there a full moon last night?

Why? ... Are feeling the urge to bite me?

February 17, 2014 at 3:03 p.m.
alprova said...

pt wrote: "Roo: Have you been learning the Tolstoy method of verbal diarrhea from Alpo?"

You seem to have some real trouble comprehending the simple fact that no one SPEAKS in this forum.

You've never been in any position to HEAR anyone SAY anything.

Thus, any mention of "verbal diarrhea is quite silly, as are you Twitterdumdum...

"Good grief, man. Don't you have some starving homeless people to feed?"

Is that your way of asking for some money? Where do you want the check sent? The public library?

February 17, 2014 at 3:04 p.m.
jjmez said...

jt6 said: courthouse-little blue parking placards to people .

My apologies. I should have realized you suffered some mental deformity--I'll try to be more conscious of mental midgets like yourself. ;)

February 17, 2014 at 3:05 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

alpo, aka lyin king, you sound desperate.

February 17, 2014 at 3:12 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

jjmez said...

I'll try to be more conscious of mental midgets

It’s “Little People" you bigoted troll .... LMFAO!!

February 17, 2014 at 4:14 p.m.
hotdiggity said...

fairmon said...

February 17, 2014 at 9:50 a.m

"What is the connection with the Kock brothers?"

What is the connection of the Koch brothers to the Tea Party? You're serious, right? Right? Oh my gosh.

Also, it's Koch brothers, (Freudian slip?)

February 17, 2014 at 4:48 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Kerry Generates 12 Tons of CO2 on Trip Discussing Climate Change.

"So in one week, just from flying from meeting to meeting, Kerry generated about two-thirds the carbon output of the average American in one year."

http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/371280/kerry-generates-12-tons-co2-trip-discussing-climate-change-jim-geraghty

The hypocrisy is astounding.

February 17, 2014 at 4:55 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

What's the connection of Bill Ayers and Soros with Obama?

When a murderer and a guy who manipulates entire government economies to benefit himself have a friend in the prez, it's no big deal...right?

February 17, 2014 at 4:58 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Check this out. Liberalism out of control.

Student forced to apologize for emailing pic of Obama kicking a door, because RACISM

"What happened next is almost unbelievable: Another student issued a formal complaint against Farnan for committing a “micro-aggression.”For those not up-to-date on the PC lexicon, “micro-aggression” is the latest phrase of choice for leftist radicals seeking to blame racism for common annoyances suffered by people of all races. Minority activists at the University of Michigan, for example, have insisted that trivial slights, such as “Having your opinion second-guessed in a group assignment,........”

http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/17/student-forced-to-apologize-for-emailing-pic-of-obama-kicking-a-door-because-racism/

Un-f#%*ing believable!

February 17, 2014 at 5:09 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Obama Plays Water Guzzling Desert Golf Courses Amid California Drought

"President Barack Obama traveled to California Friday to highlight the state’s drought emergency at two events near Fresno, calling for shared sacrifice to help manage the state’s worst water-shortage in decades. He then spent the rest of the weekend enjoying the hospitality of some of the state’s top water hogs: desert golf courses."

http://swampland.time.com/2014/02/17/obama-golfs-water-guzzling-desert-courses-amid-the-drought/

He may be a hypocrite, but at least he's blatant about it.

February 17, 2014 at 5:20 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

^^^ clearly a racist post ^^^

February 17, 2014 at 5:44 p.m.
rick1 said...

Toes, and the water shortage was manufactured by Feinstein, Boxer and Brown.

http://www.contracostatimes.com/opinion/ci_23921417/drought-conditions-california-are-manufactured-by-politicians

February 17, 2014 at 5:46 p.m.
jjmez said...

jteezy6 said: It’s “Little People" you bigoted troll .... LMFAO!!

"bigoted/troll?" Must be the extent and highlight of your vocabulary. You certainly use the two words quite a lot. Can't you at least make some effort to be a little more creative? You're soooo redundant! LMFAOAU!!!

February 17, 2014 at 5:49 p.m.
jjmez said...

hotdiggity said: Also, it's Koch brothers, (Freudian slip?)

Me thinks fairmon was fantasizing. LOL

February 17, 2014 at 5:52 p.m.
fairmon said...

hotdiggity said...What is the connection of the Koch brothers to the Tea Party? You're serious, right? Right? Oh my gosh.

I am serious. Do you have valid evidence they are involved with the local tea party or other tea groups? They do publicly state their libertarian ideology. Do you know the influence George Soros has with the administration? What do you know about Valerie Jarrett?

February 17, 2014 at 6:17 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

alprova said...

The only time I even see references to it is when tuning into or onto Fox News, and despite all claims to the contrary, most of America doesn't even tune in or view their web page.

That’s kind of like; if a tree falls in the woods and drives a Fleabaggers head down to his a^^hole would anybody but other Fleabaggers give a care?

February 17, 2014 at 7:39 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

Rickaroo said...

In the latest Hill poll administered to an array of conservatives, liberals, and independents on income inequality, 55% of conservatives thought it was a big problem or at least somewhat of a problem, 81% of centrists thought the same, and 94% of liberals thought it was a big problem, rendering an overall result of a majority of Americans polled believing that income inequality is indeed a problem.

Do I really need to breakdown the internals of a poll that is 2 1/2 years old?

February 17, 2014 at 7:41 p.m.

Krauthammer is, again, brilliant in exposing the lunatic liberal, deer-in-headlight explanation of job losses due to Obamacare. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-obamacare-jobs-workforce-krauthammer-oped-0217-20140217,0,6475502.column

February 17, 2014 at 9:19 p.m.
hotdiggity said...

Fairmon. Have you heard of Americans for Prosperity? FreedomWorks? If you refuse to believe the Koch brothers have not supported Tea Party candidates, events, or legislation through their organizations you are just wearing blinders. Do a little homework, OK?

February 17, 2014 at 11:51 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Diggity. ^^^ And there's something wrong with that?

February 18, 2014 at 12:04 a.m.
fairmon said...

hotdiggetty said...

If you refuse to believe the Koch brothers have not supported Tea Party candidates, events, or legislation through their organizations you are just wearing blinders. Do a little homework, OK?

I have done extensive homework on them, George Soros, Warren Buffet, Bill Gates and others including unions which out contribute all of them. George Soros is by far the most active and devious. I am sure they have supported or endorsed some candidates with tea party affiliation but like Hilary says "what does it matter"? You give them way too much credit for their influence which is nil compared to Soros and unions.

February 18, 2014 at 12:14 a.m.
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