published Friday, January 31st, 2014

5-at-10: Friday mailbag with Will Wade's potential, Super moments, Prop bets contest and more

Gang, thanks for another great week and for playing along.

From the "Talks too much" studios, believe in yourself and prove that belief to be well-invested. Or, as Dr. Kasem/Shaggy told us, "Keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars."

From Red Rider

Now that the win streak is over and Davidson thumped your golden boy, will you please stop acting like Will Wade is John Wooden.

It's the same for a lot of new coaches -- a new face and approach help and the new guy gets credit even though he took over a program that had been to two NCAA tournaments in recent years and obviously had some talent on the roster.

To go on and on and on on how coach Wade is some kind of miracle worker shows how little you know about building a college basketball program.

I'm sure you won't print this in your little mailbag for all your loving fans to read, but it's time to move on.

Red Rider —

Thanks for the letter and the feedback. We are always willing to interact in debate, and more times than not, the most entertaining and informative discussions are those that have opposite points and passions.

In fact, the governmental fall-out in this country in a lot of ways can be traced to the loss of heated debate. Today, sadly, our leaders far too often yell without listening and dismiss without understanding, striking an argument or idea not on its merit but from the color of the party from which it generated.

Good idea or bad idea does not matter as much as red idea or blue idea. And that's sad.

So we are happy to have this discussion, and we will have it praising the merits of Coach Wade without discussing the previous regime because there is no need to make comparisons.

We have been on the Wade Wagon from the start because of the way Coach Wade discusses the game. His knowledge about the game in general and what he wants to accomplish in particular is evident and impressive. It was also apparent from the first time we spoke with him.

As for Wade the coach, well, he is young but the shortcomings of that have been more than met and compensated by his energy. And that energy has been infectious — to the team, the program and the community. Maybe that would have happened in some measure because of the new coach, regardless of whom UTC hired, but we believe the level to which the energy has crested and the quickness with which it has risen is because of Wade the coach and Wade the person.

And remember this, he has maximized the talent that was left and has meshed it into a SoCon-leading group despite not having the pieces to run his desired sets. That friends is coaching at a graduate level.

Anyone can have success in perfect conditions. Winning in an ideal setting could be described as being good, or it could simply be good fortune. Having success in random scenarios is the mark of skill and having high-level success in what can be viewed as unknown and less-than-desireable circumstances is talent. Period.

Davidson spanked the hot-shot Mocs. It was bound to happen at some point, considering so many things went right for a glorious month that when they turned, they were going to roll downhill quickly. It happens and you move on.

In truth, this is another chance to witness and watch Wade as the leader of the program, because as we discussed earlier, having success in easy settings is fine. Having success amid adversity is finding talent.

In that regard, how Wade manages this moment — his demeanor, his focus on the next step rather than the previous misstep while still learning from the stumble that was the Davidson debacle — will be telling. And we expect him to clear this hurdle as easily as the previous ones put before him.

Think back to the high-water days of Coach Mac when the Mocs were rolling. Coach Mac was great in the moment and over the long haul. He managed the game and knew each game was only a brief stop on the season-long journey of improvement.

We see that in Coach Wade, his pursuit of playing well is not measured by scores in January or a collapse in Charlotte.

You're right, the 5-at-10 knows very little about building a college basketball program. But we do know something about recognizing someone who has the skills to craft a successful college basketball program, and we see it almost every way in Will Wade.

Again, thanks for the question and for reading the 5-at-10. Did you want to submit an entry for the prop bet contest Red Rider? (Love your B.B. guns by the way.)

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From Big Sid

Jay -- I started reading your column after listening to you and David on Press Row. You guys have a great radio show by the way. I listen everday, keep up the good work.

I am going to send you my entry for your contest, but I was wondering who you like in the Super Bowl?

Thanks and thanks for all you do.

Big Sid —

Thanks for the kind words and for reading and listening. We are still learning at the radio stuff — and at the writing stuff for that matter — but it's a lot of fun and we owe a lot of thanks to David Paschall and Wells Guthrie and all the callers for making it as much fun as it is. Good times.

As for the Super Bowl, well, we started the week liking the Seahawks for a variety of reasons, and most notably because their defense is like better version of the Chargers group that flummoxed the Broncos in December.

But the closer we get to the game, the more we believe there is no way Peyton Manning is going to let this moment escape. We'll go Denver 24-20.

And here is the reminder of the Super Bowl contest —

Here are the Prop Bets for the unofficial Eugene Robinson Super Bowl Proposition Bets contest:

Guide — If it's an over/under that means you have to pick whether you think the final number will be above or below (over/under) the number Vegas set:

• Peyton Manning over/under passing yards at 289 yards.

• Renee Fleming, the opera lady singing the national anthem, has an over/under of 2 minutes and 25 seconds to sing the pregame song.

• The over/under on the longest touchdown in the game is 44 yards.

• LeBron James' total points (Saturday vs. the Knicks) is minus-5.5 over Seahawks total points

• Will any member of the Red Hot Chili Peppers be shirtless during the performance?

• Player who scores the first touchdown will have a jersey number above or below 79.5?

• Denver minus-3 over Seattle

TIE-BREAKER: Total points scored in the game (with Price is Right rules in effect so do not go over)

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From GolfGal

I'm a Colorado girl so like any Bronco fanatic this week is crazy! Just curious, when your not covering/working an event what is your favorite place in Chattanooga to take in a big game?

Also what's your favorite Super Bowl moment?

GG —

Thanks for the question and for reading the 5-at-10.

We used to spend more than a fair share of time — and a fair share of our paycheck — at CBC downtown. Good times.

We also can recommend any of the wing places because after all that's what they are designed for, and we'd find ourselves at Taco Mac more times than not. Two in the metro-Atlanta area we had fond memories of are T.J.'s in Roswell and Doc's in Smyrna. Moment of silence. That will do.

As for our Rushmore of favorite Super Bowl moments, great question. Here we go (in no particular order):

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    New Orleans Saints quarterback Drew Brees smiles on the sideline during an NFL football game against the Atlanta Falcons in New Orleans, Monday, Dec. 26, 2011. (AP Photo/Rusty Costanza)
    Photo by Associated Press /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

1) Drew Brees holding his son amid the confetti after the Saints won a few years ago. Could help but think, "Wow, now that's a moment you'll never forget."

2) David Tyree's catch and that final Giants drive to beat the Pats. Amazing.

3) U2 signing "Streets With No Name" at halftime of the 2002 Super Bowl as the names of the 9/11 victims were scrolled on the screen. Powerful.

4) The wardrobe malfunction.

And yes, two of those are halftime shows, which is a testament to how big the Super Bowl has become.

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From Chas9

What basketball coaches make your final four in talking, and who are your four most snooze-worthy?

9er —

We appreciate guys that answer good questions with thought and and purpose. Phil Mickelson is one of the best in all of sports at this. Seriously.

As for basketball coaches, well, more times than not they are about delivering a message rather than answering a question. Some of the younger or lower-profile guys are much better interviews than big-time guys for that reason.

Final Four of guys that are/seem to be good interviews (we have to make assumptions on a couple of these by what we see and hear)

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    Tennessee head coach Cuonzo Martin talks with Trae Golden (11) in this file photo.
    Photo by Associated Press /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

— Jim Boeheim

— Tony Ingle (coached at Kennesaw State and may be at Dalton now, but is a great guy)

— Billy Donovan

— Coach Mac in his day

Side note: We really like speaking with Will Wade as well and every time we saw Bobby Cremins away from the basketball court we had a blast.

The other Final Four

— John Calipari

— Nolan Richardson back in the day

— Jim Harrick

— Buzz Peterson

And Cuonzo Martin is a cliche machine but one of the five nicest, classiest guys in college hoops.

about Jay Greeson...

Jay was named the Sports Editor of the Times Free Press in 2003 and started with the newspaper in May 2002 as the Deputy Sports Editor. He was born and raised in Smyrna, Ga., and graduated from Auburn University before starting his newspaper career in 1997 with the Newnan (Ga.) Times Herald. Stops in Clayton and Henry counties in Georgia and two years as the Sports Editor of the Marietta (Ga.) Daily Journal preceded Jay’s ...

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chas9 said...

Kasem was a doctor? Next thing you'll tell me is that Julius Erving and Gary Haskew are physicians.

Love your treatise on Will Wade.

Red Ryder, you are a tad harsh with our boy, but gotta love your passion. Trumps boring every time. Keep it coming.

A poll out today says 40% of us would encourage our children to play a sport other than football, fearing concussions. And the richer you are, the more likely you are to steer your little tykes away from pointy ball. Which makes no sense, because you can sure get a concussion playing polo and downhill skiing.

Meanwhile, the NFL yesterday reports its safety measures over the past two years have resulted in fewer concussions.

And on the collegiate level, UK has won the tussle with Bama for five-star 372-pound DT Matt Elam. The last time The Cats beat The Tide in any football activity was when The Bear coached in The Bluegrass.

Speaking of upgrading your talent, the SEC's best roundball team got the good news that 6'10" five-star freshman Chris Walker is eligible to play. He won't start, but he'll get valuable minutes and solidifies The Gators' final four likelihood.

Did you see the astounding video of the William Carey University cheerleader making a half-court shot while turning a somersault? I hear Jay could do that back in his glory days. In a skirt.

Note to all 5@10 correspondents who use Yahoo email: Change your password NOW. Note to BiB: 123456 is not an adequate password. And GD: It's too easy to guess yours is GoDawgs. Change it.

January 31, 2014 at 10:16 a.m.
jomo11 said...

I knew Davidson was no joke, remember they beat Georgia by double-digits and took North Carolina into overtime. . .Is Davidson 40 points better than the Mocs ? No. However they are 15-20 points better. Mocs need to finish at least 2nd or 3rd to get in opposite bracket of Davidson for Asheville. If Will Wade does that, after being picked to finish 7th Little Red Ryder can "ride off into the sunset"

What is the over/under on the number of times during Super Bowl we have to look at Archie Manning in his skybox ?

January 31, 2014 at 10:46 a.m.
Buschleague said...

5-- Over the last 10-12 yrs a handful of NFL coaches have lost a SB. Fischer, Reed, Fox, Smith,Whis,Caldwell. All have subsequently been fired and rehired elsewhere. Fox is the only one to reach another SB-so far. His profile remains very low it seems. Even this week Carroll is all the rage despite Fox is being youngerwith a nice resume.

A nice run with Carolina and SB appearance w/Denver (maybe win) would make him close to Dungy and possible HOF coach? What say you?

January 31, 2014 at 10:59 a.m.
jomo11 said...

great Tweet by your man @StephenHargis " Alabama got 2 inches of snow, . . .but they are claiming 15" . . . .just like national titles

January 31, 2014 at 11:02 a.m.
ordinaryguy said...

WOW A BEEBER FREE FRIDAY...THANKS JG...fav super bowl memory was my interview with David Tyree when he was in Chattanooga a couple of weeks following THE CATCH...

January 31, 2014 at 11:28 a.m.
fechancellor said...

Red Ryder, that's right 10-Ring need be put in his place from time to time. You upbraided and downgraded his arbitrary and capricious nature, and he supplied nothing but a wet kiss hoping everyone will yet again forget his transgressions. Of course, he came back with nothing, I mean not a doggone thing, to prove his infatuation with Coach Wade is nothing more than a man crush.

Red Ryder, I implore you, visit again and again at your leisure. Be forewarned, when you step on a squid, you're going to get a lot of ink. (Can't remember if this a print media maxim or one of mine). Cheers!

Brought to you by Düff -"the beer of Danish kings."

January 31, 2014 at 11:37 a.m.
chas9 said...

OG--Whew! For a second there I thought you said BEER-FREE Friday. FREE BEER's another thing. All in the syntax.

The TFP headline about Tina Turner reminds me of my favorite concert in the Roundhouse, soon after it opened. Sound was terrible but the scenery was exquisite. Dare you to name a Rushmore of legs that made a miniskirt look better than the Nutbush hottie's.

January 31, 2014 at 11:41 a.m.
fechancellor said...

Buschleague, I'm apologizing up front for the tone. This is a sore subject with me.

I'd say Fox, if he wins is at 1.5. Oakland's Tom Flores won both Super Bowls he made, the 1980 Raiders were the first ever Wild Card not only to make the Super Bowl, but win it.

I my view the level of coaching necessary to navigate four games (two on the road and the big game) was extraordinary feat of coaching. Flores also won a Ring as a player with the Chiefs in '69.

Flores was also the first head coach in the league who happened to be a minority.

To answer your question, Buschleague, Fox hasn't done enough yet to make the HOF. In the case of Coach Flores, those with the HOF votes haven't either.

January 31, 2014 at 12:24 p.m.
Stewwie said...

Maybe it was our worst game and Davidson's best game. But still...a 43 point loss? We're not going to beat many teams when we give up 94. Last year, Davidson was clearly the best team in the league and we "only" lost to them by 26. But let's hope this latest loss is only a one-time nasty glitch in an otherwise great season. Let's take our horse-whippin' like a man and move on.

Jay, I listen to the radio show when I can. By the time I get out of work, I'm lucky if I'm able to catch the last segment or two. But I am most entertained when folks call in and ask the random questions. Like the one yesterday, "Did you read the story on page B8..." Hahaha. And why did he direct that question to just you? I am sure that both Wells and Pasquali enjoyed it just as much. And by "just as much" I mean "not at all".

How about the one from a couple of weeks ago, "David, do you have a brother named Lane? I went to high school with him!" Pasquali: "Uh...I do not have a brother named Lane." Lol.

January 31, 2014 at 1:46 p.m.
Buschleague said...

Fe to the C (?)

I feel your pain. When eligible Jimmy Johnson and Shannahan probably get in on first vote, while Seifort and Coughlin and Flores maybe never. I think Dungy gets in tomorrow, deservedly so. Perception/timing who knows.

January 31, 2014 at 2:01 p.m.
GratefulDawg said...

Well, all is right in the Tennessee Valley. The roads are ice free and folks have grown tired of bashing the weathermen and have returned to scolding the sports editor. If you think Jay goes on a bit about Will Wade, well...I heard he has an ornate altar type structure that he built at his house in honor of Gus Malzhan. Jay performs ritualistic dances and occasionally shouts War Eagle around the sacred bus. When reached for comment, neighbors said it got weird over there after the Iron Bowl.

9er, I thought one step ahead on my password. GoDawgs would be easy to figure, but my real password is HunkerDownYouSilverBritches...Aw hell, I guess I need to change it again now.

January 31, 2014 at 2:54 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

Doc's ... where the elite meet and greet. And have the catfish (wah wah wah wah).

I pay scant attention to halftime shows at the Super Bowl. Or the pregame. But U2's halftime show 12 years ago was unbelievable. They didn't make it about themselves and still managed to make a great statement.

And 5, it's not which members of the RHCP will be shirtless (likely at least two, possibly three, with drummer Chad Smith decked out in his ever present Michigan basketball jersey). But which will be pantsless? This a band known for showing up wearing none but tube socks. And the socks are not on their feet.

So Super Bowl Rushmore moments are:

Brady clutching his head as the confetti fell as the Patriots won the Super Bowl for the first time.

The Rams defense running off the field after stopping Kevin Dyson on the game's final play

U2's halftime show

Springsteen's halftime show.

And having a boss give me the Sunday night off so I could watch the Patriots and Rams. Whatever became of that guy, I wonder.

January 31, 2014 at 3:34 p.m.
chas9 said...

The correct answers in the Sneaky Robinson preposition are: over, under, under, Seahawks +5.5, yes, below, Seattle +3, 42. What do I win?

And yes, I was arrested for the same thing, but mine weren't pink.

January 31, 2014 at 5:51 p.m.
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