published Friday, July 4th, 2014

The Incumbent

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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TheJackDennis said...

wow

July 4, 2014 at 12:11 a.m.
alprova said...

Since I have no interest in the candidates of the 3rd district, permit me to offer the first alternative issue of the day.

I introduce the diversity of Faux News Anchors;

http://i.imgur.com/aVyRz6u.jpg

July 4, 2014 at 12:51 a.m.
GameOn said...

I was planning to vote for Wamp until the debate. He sounded like a community organizing, Chamber of Commerce loving, Bohemian Grove Smart A$$ to me.

July 4, 2014 at 12:57 a.m.
fairmon said...

No Wamp, Bush or Clinton. Our congress and administration looks like a family affair with several second or third generation in office now. Many have never held a public job and have not a clue what the real world of work is like. Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are two examples. Current voters are the most gullible and naïve in U.S. history influenced by the media and social web sites with name recognition and misleading information contributing most to who is elected.

How many voters and office holders understand the consequences of the dollar no longer being the world's reserve currency? When, not if, that happens it will be a devastating blow to the economy and spawn inflation like never imagined. The IMF and others are making a major effort to replace the dollar as the reserve currency and our leaders including the fed are doing nothing to prevent it. I would like to see Wamp and Fleishman or any candidate respond to a question about the issue and how they would prevent it from happening.

July 4, 2014 at 4:46 a.m.
LibDem said...

I would have preferred something a little more patriotic on this particular day. (The term used here was a vulgarity when I was a lad.)

July 4, 2014 at 6:57 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

in case yesterday z didn't see the answer to what ship is sinking:

Zableedofisterix,

I owe you a better answer. What is happening is the passing of an old way of life that for this conversation I will call the "old guard." The ideas of the tea party and by proxy for the GOP, the primary group who define the "old guard," though rooted in the ideal of individual choice and absolute freedom from government in reality has morphed into the idea that people who hold "absolutist" ideas about people who are different should have the right to segregate themselves from those with whom the disagree and also be able to deny them basic rights and opportunity protected by the US Constitution. This extends to refusing even to admit the possibility of compromise with those who differ in legislatures and overall. These ideas are primarily found among old white males and often their wives, conservative southerners who have a conscious or unconscious bias created by the Civil War, and religious fanatics.

Survey after survey shows a large majority of young people and most women reject this line of thinking as prejudicial and oppressive. The demographic character of the USA is turning more Hispanic/Asian and non-Caucasian and the societal values of that group are quite different from the Old Guard. This trend towards non-Caucasian began through immigration in the 1800's and has accelerated since. The last two elections show this trend is growing, not shrinking.

If the Old Guard persists in clinging to its old ways, as I expect it will, it will soon become a footnote in history and irrelevant to current affairs except in local pockets where they maintain a majority. However a look at some of those pockets, such as Dalton, Chattanooga and GA in general, show this new demographic will overtake their politics.

That is the ship of the old guard to which I refer.

July 4, 2014 at 7:30 a.m.
conservative said...

So, what is the word for a man who can't do any better than this for the 4th of July?

July 4, 2014 at 7:47 a.m.
maddawg said...

Love it. How accurate!!

July 4, 2014 at 8:16 a.m.
conservative said...

This is magnificent!

An excerpt from Wesley Pruden:

"Either we're going to enforce our laws and remain strong, economically or otherwise, or we ignore the rule of law and go to being a Third World country," Rep. Louis Gohmert told Fox News. "You've got to follow the law. You cannot bring hundreds of thousands of people into this country without destroying the country. Then there's no place that people can dream about coming to."

"No one knows this better than Barack Obama."

"Making the United States over into a Third World country is exactly what this president is about. He is of the Third World. He's comfortable in the Third World. He spent his formative years in the Third World, and when his mother, obsessed with the Third World, brought him back to America he sought out the company of those who dreamed of making America over into the world's largest welfare state, a France writ large, with Velveeta instead of Camembert. He and his Chicago cohort of potheads, "community organizers" and dreamers of fuzzy dreams entertained themselves with fantasies of how they would one day transform the land of the free and the home of the brave into a soft and corrupts nation worthy of taking its rightful place among the nations of the Third World."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/3/pruden-en-route-to-the-third-world/

July 4, 2014 at 8:18 a.m.
fairmon said...

inquiringmind...

What is the difference in the old guard and the new? Both want to exercise control but with different venues. Neither accepts the principles of the constitution and consistently push the limits. It would be nice to have a candidate that is a social liberal and a fiscal conservative. Both parties seem to think bipartisan means the other side should agree with them.

It is a little mind boggling when those immigrating here either legally or illegally want this country to be more like the one they left.

This POTUS appears to be isolated by his handlers and getting his advice from Valerie Jarrett who is influenced by George Soros and who is a close friend of the first lady. He appears to be in over his head with many issues above his pay level to use the words he used on an issue during the campaign.

July 4, 2014 at 8:26 a.m.
LibDem said...

"You cannot bring hundreds of thousands of people into this country without destroying the country." Once the Irish arrived, it was all over for the ole USA.

July 4, 2014 at 8:29 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

fairmon read it carefully

July 4, 2014 at 8:30 a.m.
fairmon said...

Todays toon is a signal to let the attacks begin. Wamp was against PACS during the last campaign and suggested they should not exist He is now the beneficiary of a major contribution from those that use attack ads to support their candidate. His explanation will be interesting. I predict his reaction will be similar to Obama's by denying knowing about it and expressing shock but doing nothing to stop it.

My vote will likely be a write in stating neither of the above.

July 4, 2014 at 8:33 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

And yes, con-man it is a tribute to and acknowledgment of the values celebrated by the 4th.Vive la USA.

July 4, 2014 at 8:35 a.m.
fairmon said...

inquiring...I did read it carefully and it appears to support the ideology of the current administration which is as screwed up as that of the radical right. Both want to dictate who does what and how beyond that which is reasonable and essential. Both want to use states as an extension of a strong and controlling behemoth central government. No entity as huge as our government can be effectively managed or controlled.

July 4, 2014 at 8:41 a.m.
conservative said...

Yea inquiringmind, lawlessness is a value to Liberals.

July 4, 2014 at 8:46 a.m.

Libdem, I agree. This is pretty pathetic for 4th of July. It's a bit much.

July 4, 2014 at 9:07 a.m.

I read Congresswoman Shiela Jackson Lee is handing out lollypops at the border to illegal aliens. What a dingbat.

Is she representative of the new guard, inq?

Lawlessness and stupidity are never good.

Build a really, really good fence/wall the entire length of the border, assign national guard to the border and I'll be satisfied.

The great wall of china is, what, 5000 plus miles long, and it was built when? The US Mexican border is about 1900 miles long or something like that. NO reason why we can't do that.

July 4, 2014 at 9:17 a.m.

fairmon, very good point about modern day immigrants, and certainly illegal aliens, wanting this country to be more like the one they left.

My great, great grandparents immigrated from Europe, and came in the proper way, the lawful way. They came here to be Americans, not hyphenated Americans. They learned english and wanted to fit in. I don't know when all of that changed, but we have two parties now who are promoting division. It should be stressed that we're all Americans and not hyphenated Americans.

July 4, 2014 at 9:31 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"Build a really, really good fence/wall the entire length of the border, assign national guard to the border and I'll be satisfied."

And what would keep people from climbing over and/or burrowing under? From what I understand, there is already an elaborate tunnel system between the US and Mexico. A "fence/wall the entire length of the border" would be a waste.

And what better day for Clay to exercise his First Amendment right? In many countries, Clay could be imprisoned for mocking an elected official. Fister can exercise his freedom and blame his diarrhea and hangover on Obama.

July 4, 2014 at 9:34 a.m.
Ki said...

When your great great grandparents came over from Europe, zabybabee, there were Jim Crow laws, segregation and lynch mobs that targeted a particular segment of american society that had been "Americans" for centuries. They weren't "hyphenated"Americans either, but were still perscuted . If your great-great grandparents immigrated to america prior to the 1940s or '50s, they did not come to america by today's legal standards. That would make them illegal and you too.

July 4, 2014 at 10:18 a.m.
fairmon said...

America is called capitalist and greedy - yet half of the population is subsidized. Half of the population is subsidized - yet they think they are victims. They think they are victims - yet their representatives run the government. Their representatives run the government - yet the poor keep getting poorer. They have things that people in other countries only dream about - yet they want America to be more like those other countries.

Seems we constantly hear about how Social Security is going to run out of money. We never hear about welfare or food stamps running out of money? What's interesting is the first group "worked for" their money, but the second didn't. Think about it.....Who will you vote for to correct the discrimination against hard work and being responsible?

July 4, 2014 at 10:20 a.m.
fairmon said...

GaussianInteger said...

"Build a really, really good fence/wall the entire length of the border, assign national guard to the border and I'll be satisfied."

The way things are going that wall may be needed to keep people in. According to some of the elected elite we need to keep them in to do the work that the lazy and dependent won't do and to keep those that will work and pay taxes in as well.

July 4, 2014 at 10:23 a.m.

Ki, you're ignorant. My great great grandparents came through Ellis Island. They didn't sneak over the border and make demands.

You libs are predictable. Trying to smear legal immigrants and immigrants who obey the law, doesn't make the illegal alien invaders now look any better. It's illegal, lawless and we have POTUS and two parties who are not doing their jobs.

July 4, 2014 at 10:38 a.m.

Gauss, your comments don't make Clay's cartoon look any better.

July 4, 2014 at 10:41 a.m.

And what a better way for me to exercise my first amendment right by stating what I think of his crappy cartoon.

July 4, 2014 at 10:43 a.m.
zulalily said...

Bennett is pathetic as usual. I wish we had a third candidate, but that did not work out so well the last time. Wamp sounds like an entitled brat and he needs to grow up and decide whether or not he is even a Republican. Chuck sounds like an angry old man which supports the idea that the GOP is made up of angry, old, white people. I don't mind a congressman who is willing to sit down with Democrats and sincerely negotiate reasonable solutions, but what I really object to is allowing amnesty to illegals in any form before our borders are secure. Obama's policies of executive orders such as the Dream Act is exactly what has caused the huge, overwhelming crisis we have on the border today. He and his actions are why there will not be illegal immigration reform during the rest of his presidency and his actions are the reason that Republicans will take over the U.S. Senate this fall. I hope Bennett is already hard at work on his pathetic cartoons to cover that event!

July 4, 2014 at 10:53 a.m.

Ki, you're an ass. You say my great great grandparents were illegal and so am i because of today's legal standards? That's absolutely stupid. They came in the proper, legal way, did what they were told, did everything they were told to do to become citizens, and they did.

You're desperate to make the illegal alien invaders look good in any way you can. The fact is, they are criminals and they should be deported. No other country, even some crappy third world nation, is so irresponsible on their borders.

July 4, 2014 at 10:56 a.m.

zulalily, amen.

July 4, 2014 at 11 a.m.
Maximus said...

Diversity of Fox News Anchors.....really? Stumpy you have way way too much time on your hands. How about this little item for those still foolish enough to consider voting for a Democrat ever again.....remember, under Obama's abortion of a health care system dictated by the 2000+ page Affordable Care Act, the I.R.S. will act as the MAIN ENFORCEMENT AGENCY.

Ok then, HAPPY FOURTH OF JULY even to you Nanny State Ninny Democrats and may the Republican Freedom From Obama's Transformation of the U.S.A. begin this month. Early voting begins Oct. 17, just press "R" for everything and you will feel the freedom pouring over you! These Marxist extreme lazy leftists must go while we still have a country!

July 4, 2014 at 11:02 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Gassy says "And what better day for Clay to exercise his First Amendment right?" What part of "timing" do you not understand, math-head?

I don't mind Clay and his hard-left slant. I don't. But today's toon seems a bit over the top. JMO

July 4, 2014 at 11:17 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

^I have no clue of what you are talking about. You like Chuck, we get it. If it was a jab at Wamp, you and Fister would want to blow Bennett. I love how you "Conservatives" are sopping up Chuck's rhetoric on how Weston is a "Democrat" or "Liberal". Hopefully, enough Democrats vote Republican in the primary (as Maxipad proposes) and casts their vote against Chuck. It would be a Cantoresque moment for the Third District.

You goobs keep talking about "border security". Fister, proposes a giant fence/wall which would be a colossal waster of money and time. Armed guards has been tossed around. Why not a minefield? Or better yet, a giant moat of all of the BS that you guys keep spewing. No one could commandeer that.

July 4, 2014 at 11:31 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Hey Gassy, you've never seen me post about this race. Couldn't care less who wins. Just an inappropriate toon. On another note, why are you so opposed to border security? Are you an open border, one-worlder? Chill a tad. It's a holiday. And lose that roller you use to paint with.

July 4, 2014 at 11:48 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

HAPPY 4TH, TO BOTH YOUR PERSONALITIES, ALPO

July 4, 2014 at 12:52 p.m.
Plato said...

conservative said...

This is magnificent!

An excerpt from Wesley Pruden:

"Either we're going to enforce our laws and remain strong, economically or otherwise, or we ignore the rule of law and go to being a Third World country," Rep. Louis Gohmert told Fox News. "You've got to follow the law. You cannot bring hundreds of thousands of people into this country without destroying the country. Then there's no place that people can dream about coming to."

"No one knows this better than Barack Obama."


Louis Gohmert is a moron and political hack. The President is not bringing people into the country illegally, he has departed more illegals during his term than any other previous President and has publicly stated virtually all of these kids coming in are going to be sent right back home. But if Gohmert truly is concerned about boarder security why doesn't he talk to Mr. Boehner about bringing the comprehensive immigration bill to the floor? You know, the one that was sponsored by Marco Rubio and has already passed the Senate on a bipartisan basis. That bill has very robust boarder security elements in it. Or a similar House bill?

The Republcian Party can't point accusatory fingers towards the President alleging executive overreach one minute, and then in the next minute criticizing the President for not doing what the f'ckin CONGRESS IS SUPPOSE TO BE DOING.

When will you knuckleheads not see the hypocrisy?

July 4, 2014 at 2:42 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

So Plato, the presidente has deported more illegals? More have come in. Duh. "All these kids", Plato, will be turned over to family and friends and volunteers here. Then asked to come in for an interview in 15 days or so. You seriously think they will comply? If you do, contact me about a good deal on a bridge. None of this sh!t would happen if the borders were properly sealed. What is so hard to understand about that?

July 4, 2014 at 2:49 p.m.
Plato said...

fairmon said...

Seems we constantly hear about how Social Security is going to run out of money. We never hear about welfare or food stamps running out of money? What's interesting is the first group "worked for" their money, but the second didn't. Think about it.....Who will you vote for to correct the discrimination against hard work and being responsible?


Maybe you don't watch the news, here's a bulletin for you the Congressional Republicans DID cut $8.7 Billion out of the food stamp budget this session.

Social security is not a welfare program. It's payments are mandated under the law. Social Security is suppose to be self funded, in order to keep it that way Congress will have to act to increase revenue, reduce benefits, extend eligibility age or a combination of these three to keep it self funded. Otherwise the federal government will be required to pick up the differential.

July 4, 2014 at 2:57 p.m.
Easy123 said...

TheJackOff,

"So Plato, the presidente has deported more illegals? More have come in. Duh."

Wrong. Statistically, the years with the highest population of illegal immigrants in the United States were 2006 and 2007.

""All these kids", Plato, will be turned over to family and friends and volunteers here. Then asked to come in for an interview in 15 days or so. You seriously think they will comply? If you do, contact me about a good deal on a bridge."

How about a comprehensive immigration plan then? Oh wait, your ilk nixed that rather quickly. Right WingNuts don't want to fix the problem. Their actions prove it.

"None of this sh!t would happen if the borders were properly sealed. What is so hard to understand about that?"

How do you "seal" 2,000 miles of border? It's difficult. We need a policy that will address this. What do you not understand about that? It's ignorant and highly illogical to think you can "seal" the border.

I guess you fiscal conservatives won't mind shelling out the dough to build a 2,000 mile, "impenetrable" wall, right? You idiots get dumber and dumber.

Why has this only become a major issue now? People are suddenly up in arms about something that has been going on at nearly the same rate for the past 20 years. This is just another attempt to try to make President Obama look bad and you Right WingNuts are failing miserably.

July 4, 2014 at 3:03 p.m.
Plato said...

TheJackDennis said...

" None of this sh!t would happen if the borders were properly sealed. What is so hard to understand about that?"

Nothing at all, so why doesn't the branch of government that has the authority to appropriate funds by legislation to significantly increase boarder enforcement and other protective measures act to do so?

Just more Republcian hypocrisy. Just like the ACA. They whined and bitched that the mandate would be an undo burden on small businesses and they also bitched that families could not keep their current plan. But when the president acted to lessen the restrictions, and allow an extra year for small business to comply, and further had the insurers go back and reinstate those old plans, Republicans gave the President hell for "executive overreach".

You can't have it both ways.

July 4, 2014 at 3:04 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

It wasn't a Republican administration in charge while hundreds of thousands of kids enter illegally. Why come now? Because of El Presidente's obvious disinterest in stopping them. Not rocket math. You mopes own this latest incursion.

July 4, 2014 at 3:11 p.m.
Easy123 said...

TheJackOff,

"It wasn't a Republican administration in charge while hundreds of thousands of kids enter illegally."

And? What about the hundreds of thousands of adults/children that entered under Republican administrations? Where were you then? This is just more Right WingNut propaganda/hypocrisy.

"Why come now? Because of El Presidente's obvious disinterest in stopping them."

Why come any time? Again, statistically, the years with the highest population of illegal immigrants in the United States were 2006 and 2007. Was that about "disinterest in stopping them"? Anything you Right WingNuts say regarding immigration is hypocritical because you did everything in your power to keep a comprehensive immigration bill off the table. You and your ilk made your bed and now you're forced to lay in it.

"Not rocket math. You mopes own this latest incursion."

Nah, I'll put it on Right WingNut incompetence and obstruction.

July 4, 2014 at 3:33 p.m.
conservative said...

Plato said:

"The President is not bringing people into the country illegally, he has departed more illegals during his term than any other previous President and has publicly stated virtually all of these kids coming in are going to be sent right back home."

Baloney! Who believes that? I guess Plato means "deported."

"The Deportation Lie"

"Removals generated by ICE’s Enforcement and Removals division, which is responsible for interior immigration enforcement, have decreased nearly 50 percent since June 2011. Vaughan says the administration has been inflating its deportation statistics by including a greater number of U.S. Border Patrol cases—illegal immigrants picked up at the border and subsequently referred to ICE—as part of its annual statistics. Border Patrol cases accounted for 56 percent of removals reported in fiscal year 2013, up from 33 percent in 2008. Typically, an individual apprehended at the southern border is simply returned to Mexico without being processed as a deportation by ICE."

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

"Typically, an individual apprehended at the southern border is simply returned to Mexico without being processed as a deportation by ICE."

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

"Jessica Vaughan, director of policy studies for the Center for Immigration Studies, has analyzed a set of largely unpublished official statistics on immigration-enforcement activity over the past five years. Earlier this month, Vaughan testified in court on behalf of a group of U.S. Immigration and Customs (ICE) agents who are suing the administration over its use of “prosecutorial discretion” in dictating how immigration law is enforced—or not enforced."

http://www.amren.com/news/2013/04/the-deportation-lie/

July 4, 2014 at 3:44 p.m.
conservative said...

Obama cooking the books (lying):

Now who could possibly believe Owebama would deport future Demoncrat voters?

“It is dishonest to count illegal immigrants apprehended by the Border Patrol along the border as ICE removals,” Smith explained in a statement. “And these ‘removals’ from the Border Patrol program do not subject the illegal immigrant to any penalties or bars for returning to the U.S. This means a single illegal immigrant can show up at the border and be removed numerous times in a single year — and counted each time as a removal.”

http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/24/new-documents-reveal-obama-administration-cooking-the-books-to-achieve-record-deportation-numbers/

July 4, 2014 at 3:51 p.m.
Plato said...

^Regardless of how much merit your grievances have or don't have the only branch of government that has the power to fix any of this is Congress and the Republicans control that.

The Senate/Rubio bill would pass tomorrow if Boehner would only bring it to the floor.

You can't sit on your hands and then complain about what is not happening.

July 4, 2014 at 4:01 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

ConMan, with more of that right-wing idiocy. Think about it...do you honestly believe immigrants come here illegally to simply vote for "Demoncrats"? It makes absolutely no sense for you to keep echoing that empty claim. Of course, no one will ever accuse you of presenting a logical argument. People are not coming here to vote for anyone. To keep making that claim makes you sound like a gullible dumbass.

And Jack, so this "toon is inappropriate"? Why's that? Because Clay insults a do-nothing, incompetent Congressman? How hypocritical of you to take offense to that after all of your anti-Obama/democrat postings and links. And no, I don't support "open borders". But to think that a giant "wall/fence" is going to solve or even slow the problem is ridiculous.

July 4, 2014 at 4:03 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Plato, it's just easier for guys like Jack and Fister to keep blaming all of the country's (and many of their own personal) problems on Obama. They also like to bash the GOP all the while continuously backing guys like Fleischmann.

July 4, 2014 at 4:06 p.m.
conservative said...

Now think, Owebama once lived in Chicago where Demoncrats including the dead voted more than once.

He thinks, and apparently it does work with many gullible Demoncrats, that he can count the same way with illegals.

So, how many times was Pedro "deported?"

July 4, 2014 at 4:29 p.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "HAPPY 4TH, TO BOTH YOUR PERSONALITIES, ALPO"

No one but you would even write such a thing. Everyone knows I'm not the one in the midst of an identity crises. No...that would be you.

You have claimed in this very forum to be a vile, convicted child predator who has been convicted three times of enticing children for sexual purposes.

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270586 http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270592 http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270593 http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270595

You have since refused to retract that confession.

Just your daily reminder that YOU are the one with personal issues, rather than anyone else you may accuse of having any.

July 4, 2014 at 4:32 p.m.
conservative said...

GaussianInteger said...

"ConMan, with more of that right-wing idiocy. Think about it...do you honestly believe immigrants come here illegally to simply vote for "Demoncrats"?"

You lie, a habit with you.

" It makes absolutely no sense for you to keep echoing that empty claim."

I didn't, you lied again, that is twice in two sentences.

July 4, 2014 at 4:36 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

fairmon, your comment (that everybody wants "control") is exactly what I would expect from an old guard. I don't hear any body outside your camp trying to force you to believe something you don't, not even the obvious reality of the changing of the guard.

The comments by a few of the repeat performers, especially those who seem to think using capital letters gets attention when all it does is reveal hypocrisy remind me of an old Bob Dylan song, "Times are a changin.'" here is an apropriate snippet:

Your sons and your daughters Are beyond your command Your old road is Rapidly agin' Please get out of the new one If you can't lend your hand For the times they are a-changin'

July 4, 2014 at 4:36 p.m.
alprova said...

Connie wrote: "Now think, Owebama once lived in Chicago where Demoncrats including the dead voted more than once."

Proof to any widespread voter fraud in that city?

"He thinks, and apparently it does work with many gullible Demoncrats, that he can count the same way with illegals."

President Obama will not be running for office ever again. Your prediction makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

"So, how many times was Pedro "deported?"..."

You're just full of Christianity on a daily basis, aren't you?

I'd love to be in the room when you face God.

July 4, 2014 at 4:36 p.m.
conservative said...

Mr. Anthony Provancher wrote:

"Proof to any widespread voter fraud in that city?"

There he goes again.

Notice, he implies I wrote "widespread."

However the report of such has been widely report for years.

This is just too easy!

July 4, 2014 at 4:42 p.m.
conservative said...

Mr. Anthony Provancher wrote:

"Your prediction makes absolutely no sense whatsoever."

There he goes again.

I made no prediction. Counting illegals more that once is going on NOW to inflate (lie) deportation numbers.

This is just to easy.

July 4, 2014 at 5:04 p.m.
alprova said...

Connie wrote: "Notice, he implies I wrote "widespread."..."

Oh..so if there was no widespread voter fraud, what the hell are you referring to?

"However the report of such has been widely report for years."

I know you're capable of linking to some proof. Get busy linking to all these years of proof that Chicago has endured Democrats committing voter fraud, including dead people voting in Chicago.

You're so full of sh!t that it's oozing from your pores.

July 4, 2014 at 5:31 p.m.
alprova said...

Connie wrote: "I made no prediction. Counting illegals more that once is going on NOW to inflate (lie) deportation numbers."

You really need to learn to write English, if you are going to write one thing and mean another.

But then it's hard not to notice that you post other people's thoughts, probably due to the fact that you write like a five year old and make just about as much sense when you attempt to make a point.

You Sir, are in no position to have the first clue as to how anything is counted.

Once you take your shoes off, you lose count.

July 4, 2014 at 5:35 p.m.
conservative said...

There you go again.

When you get caught lying and deceiving you resort to personal attacks and are often vulgar as well.

You poor, poor baby.

July 4, 2014 at 5:53 p.m.
conservative said...

Mr. Anthony Provancher wrote:

"But then it's hard not to notice that you post other people's thoughts"

Yes, I occasionally do.

And you do also.

The difference is that I quote and give credit.

You steal the thoughts of others, passing them off as your own, which is another way you lie.

You plagiarize!

Challenge me if you dare, you have a record with me on that matter.

This is just to easy.

July 4, 2014 at 6:06 p.m.

inq, enough with the folk singer bull$hit.

America has had a steady stream of immigrants since it started. We're a "melting pot". America has been constantly changing since it started. This has nothing to do with accepting change, this has to do with our borders being trashed and lawlessness.

We have a stupid ass Congresswoman handing out lollypops to illegal aliens while the health and safety of US citizens is being ignored.

July 4, 2014 at 6:25 p.m.
Ki said...

"My great-great grandparents came through Ellis Island."---says zeebee

They still didn't come to America by today's legal standards. By today's legal standards they would be considered ILLEGALS! Making you illegal too!

Somewhat off topic, but an interesting note:

  1. The founding fathers actually feared a powerful 1%.

  2. Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito is said to be a proud member of the Federalist Society. That's why he favors corporations over the interest of the majority.

July 4, 2014 at 6:28 p.m.

Ki, what is your point? That makes zero sense.

You're an idiot.

Is that supposed be some kind of defense of the illegal alien invasion that we're allowing to happen?

They came through Ellis Island, followed the laws, did what they were told, did what they were told to do become citizens. They came in the lawful way. They immigrated the proper way. They didn't break in.

Your post is nothing but sophistry.

July 4, 2014 at 6:38 p.m.
Ki said...

They came through Ellis Island. Not legal by today's standards. ;)

July 4, 2014 at 6:45 p.m.

How could they come to America by today's legal standards, when they came in the early 1900's? They followed the standards of the time. What are you, drunk?

They came in legally, lawfully, properly, followed the immigration laws of the time. They earned their US citizenship. So how am I not a citizen. Go sober up.

July 4, 2014 at 6:51 p.m.
Easy123 said...

I'd bet the ranch zableedipsh!t's great-grandparents didn't come through Ellis Island.

It's a contrived story to fit his narrative. He does this often. Notice how vague his "facts" are about these alleged immigrant great-grandparents of his.

If we went by the "immigration laws" during the 1900's, immigrants would only have to answer a few questions and get a physical examination to get in to this country. That's how it was done on Ellis Island. Wealthier immigrants weren't even detained/checked. They were free to do as the pleased once the boat landed. Real strict "immigration laws", eh?

July 4, 2014 at 7:19 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Z the last time i looked there were more than enough police around for my protection, I am not concerned about public safety being disrupted from illegal immigration as much as I am about the lynch mob right wingers heading for Laredo.

The current changes due to legal immigration are quite different from the ancient immigration of the 1800's, plus the major changes in society are happening in the younger population who see your religious sophistry over issues as homosexuality and immigration as nothing but bigotry and hypocrisy.

July 4, 2014 at 10:16 p.m.
alprova said...

Connie wrote: "You plagiarize! Challenge me if you dare, you have a record with me on that matter."

This I would love to see. Prove it you lying sack of crap.

July 4, 2014 at 10:24 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

yeah alpo. whatever.

Gassy. I have no problems. Fleischmann not my Rep either. Have said nothing about him. But use that paint roller, bud.

July 4, 2014 at 10:27 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "They came through Ellis Island, followed the laws, did what they were told, did what they were told to do become citizens. They came in the lawful way. They immigrated the proper way. They didn't break in"

The only difference between your ancestors and those entering the states today, is the Ellis Island existed to screen immigrants.

At the time they landed on a boat dock, they were no more legal than one crossing a border today.

Back then, depending on tests, immigrants were granted or denied entry to the United States.

There is no Ellis Island any longer.

So...any comparison to it is quite ignorant.

People are still as desperate who come here as those who came here in the early 1900's.

You might think you and yours are holier than thou, but the fact is you lack the compassion that was shown your descendants, if your story is even true.

You have absolutely no personal beef due to so much as one illegal immigrant coming to this nation, or you would have offered it.

So all this whining about illegal immigration is nothing but right-wing rhetoric, spawned because you side with the idiots. most of whom have had no personal experience with so much as one illegal immigrant.

July 4, 2014 at 10:39 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

alpo spits out "So all this whining about illegal immigration is nothing but right-wing rhetoric, spawned because you side with the idiots. most of whom have had no personal experience with so much as one illegal immigrant." and you, tubby, do have experience with illegal immigrants? You're such a pompous ass, along with being Captain of the All Liars Club.

July 4, 2014 at 11:41 p.m.
Easy123 said...

TheJackOff,

You lack self-awareness, among other things. Also, your rebuttal is fallacious.

July 5, 2014 at 12:03 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

How's that, junior?

July 5, 2014 at 12:05 a.m.
Easy123 said...

TheJackOff,

"How's that, junior?"

I rest my case, coffin dodger.

July 5, 2014 at 12:08 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

great response

July 5, 2014 at 12:10 a.m.
Easy123 said...

TheJackOff,

"great response"

"Effective" would be a better term to use in reference to my response instead of "great".

July 5, 2014 at 12:12 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

You lack the firepower, Ease. Short on education, social skills, and accomplishments. In other words, a loser.

July 5, 2014 at 12:15 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"ConMan, with more of that right-wing idiocy. Think about it...do you honestly believe immigrants come here illegally to simply vote for "Demoncrats"?"

"You lie, a habit with you."

Where's the "lie" genius? I asked you a question. How can you "lie" when you ask a person a question. There is no lie in that line.

" It makes absolutely no sense for you to keep echoing that empty claim."

"I didn't, you lied again, that is twice in two sentences."

That's a statement that's based on verifiable facts. Again, where's the lie, oh great one?

You're on a roll tonight!!!

July 5, 2014 at 12:17 a.m.
Easy123 said...

TheJackOff,

"You lack the firepower, Ease."

Whatever helps you sleep at night, Simple Jack. I'm sure getting your ass kicked for this long from several different commenters is probably starting to wear on you.

You have been getting cyber-bitchslapped multiple times a day in every cartoon going back for, at least, the past year.

"Short on education, social skills, and accomplishments."

Tell yourself whatever you need to. You know nothing about me, my education, social skills or accomplishments. Everything you post is just a grand, psychological projection.

You know you're severely inadequate in every category you just mentioned. Everyone else here knows it too.

"In other words, a loser."

That's interesting coming from the guy that spends all day posting on a cartoon comment section with the photo of another man as his avatar.

July 5, 2014 at 12:19 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"Gassy. I have no problems. Fleischmann not my Rep either. Have said nothing about him. But use that paint roller, bud."

Jack, are you not the one that posted, the "toon is inappropriate"? Did those words not come out of your keyboard? If you aren't protecting Fleischmann, then what exactly is "inappropriate"? And you are hardly in any position to accuse someone of stereotyping. Hell, you did it a few posts earlier because I said a border fence/wall was a colossal waste.

July 5, 2014 at 12:26 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

So you now speak for the forum do you, Poser? You've doubtless never kicked any ass online or elsewhere. And you spend tons of time on here yourself, sonny. All smoke, no fire. Probably been bullied, yes?

July 5, 2014 at 12:28 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

And I am still waiting on Fister to explain how a "wall/fence" is going to improve border security. Of course, I can understand is delay. He's probably hiding from those evil Mexicans that are invading our land.

July 5, 2014 at 12:28 a.m.
Easy123 said...

TheJackOff,

"So you now speak for the forum do you, Poser?"

I wasn't speaking for anyone other than myself. Just stating the obvious. There are plenty of intelligent people here that can see you for what you really are. And most make those feelings known.

"You've doubtless never kicked any ass online or elsewhere."

There are archives that would prove you to be very wrong. Those are just the facts. I can understand why you would try to deny them, but that doesn't change the truth of the matter.

"And you spend tons of time on here yourself, sonny."

No, I don't. You're here everyday, all day. No individual commenter spends anywhere close to the amount of time on these threads as you, Simple Jack.

"All smoke, no fire."

All myth, no reality.

"Probably been bullied, yes?"

This is another one of your psychological projections. Those bullies can't hurt you anymore, Little Jack. But I'll still be here to kick your ass over the Internet.

July 5, 2014 at 12:35 a.m.
Easy123 said...

GaussianInteger,

Z-fister compared this mythological, border wall to the Great Wall of China. I guess he doesn't know the Great Wall took over 200 years to build and didn't actually keep anyone out of China.

July 5, 2014 at 12:39 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

^I know. He has yet to address why he thinks a "border fence/wall" would be effective. Besides, I guess he forgets that David Copperfield walked through the Great Wall and Danny Way launched over it on a skateboard. A few days ago he wanted to send armed troops to the border, but he said "they wouldn't be able to shoot the boarder crossers". I don't get it.

I propose a moat of liquid-hot magma or filled with sharks with laser beams on their head.

July 5, 2014 at 12:50 a.m.
Easy123 said...

GaussianInteger,

Or an invisible force-field. Or, maybe, a giant glass dome around the entire country!

July 5, 2014 at 12:58 a.m.
Maximus said...

In November it will all come down to one word...TRUST. Do you trust the senile Democrat partisan Senator Harry Reid, whose main concern right now seems to be the silly Washington Redskins name change debate, to continue, along with President Obama, to run the country and especially our foreign policy into the ground taking us closer and closer to WWIII and a complete depression. History repeats itself, you decide, thank goodness, at least for now your vote can change the dangerous path the Democrats are leading us down.

As for Congress, the Republicans have done a remarkable job of blocking a good portion of Obama's leftist agenda. As we have just celebrated, come 2016 we will finally rid ourselves of this wanna be King Obama whose goal has been, like King George of old, to tax us into submission, seeking control and expansion of the elitist ruling class. Hillary Clinton, an Elinskyite will bring more of the same except with even more insanity and arrogance. Congress represents the people and most of the people smart enough to vote want the Democrats gone come November and in 2016. As for the usual suspect liberals.....the guilty rich limo libs, the climate change bunch, the college professor PHD's with pony tails, the cynics that had a bad childhood, the women who have bought in to the "right to choose" slogan, the outdated union thug ( by the way, nice job UAW....GM recalls over 20 million vehicles....always buy the union label!), the victimized minorities, and of course all the assorted geeks and freaks like Clay Bennett........they will always vote Democrat. Who gives a crap.

July 5, 2014 at 4:16 a.m.
fairmon said...

Plato said....Social security is not a welfare program. It's payments are mandated under the law. Social Security is suppose to be self funded, in order to keep it that way Congress will have to act to increase revenue, reduce benefits, extend eligibility age or a combination of these three to keep it self funded. Otherwise the federal government will be required to pick up the differential

That is correct therefore if not welfare it is a Ponzi scheme. The government can only pick up the differential by increasing revenue, borrowing or printing money. Why are those drawing allowed to receive more than they paid in plus the average U.S. treasury bonds interest? SSI is welfare anyway you look at it.

Not increasing the welfare budget is not a reduction in spending.

July 5, 2014 at 4:31 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said...

So all this whining about illegal immigration is nothing but right-wing rhetoric, spawned because you side with the idiots. most of whom have had no personal experience with so much as one illegal immigrant.

Therefore your experience with illegals in your opinion justifies breaking the laws and failing to enforce laws passed by congress? What other laws do you condone selectively enforcing or ignoring? We can't provide shelter for our own homeless and feed the hungry and can't provide adequate care for veterans but should allow the border to leak like a sieve and increase the debt to take care of those entering illegally? Your bleeding heart logic is illogical.

July 5, 2014 at 4:38 a.m.
fairmon said...

Is it safe to assume with the border patrol overwhelmed with the current illegals entring the NSA is assuring no middle east or north Africa terrorist are crossing the border?

July 5, 2014 at 4:46 a.m.
fairmon said...

Wamp is a wimp and Chuck an imp, the correct vote for the third district candidates are "none of the above".

July 5, 2014 at 4:48 a.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "Therefore your experience with illegals in your opinion justifies breaking the laws and failing to enforce laws passed by congress?"

I'm not breaking or failing to enforce any laws.

"What other laws do you condone selectively enforcing or ignoring?"

I could ask you the same thing. Some of the things you would do to other human beings are quite illegal currently.

"We can't provide shelter for our own homeless and feed the hungry and can't provide adequate care for veterans but should allow the border to leak like a sieve and increase the debt to take care of those entering illegally?"

Ah...but the border is not leaking like a sieve. This latest issue has been exaggerated to the hilt. We have been net-zero for several years now, and that has not changed.

There are still as many voluntarily returning back across the borders as there are coming across.

I challenge anyone to refute that simple fact.

Your bleeding heart logic is illogical.

July 5, 2014 at 6:28 a.m.
aidehua said...

An enemy of Clay's is a friend of mine!

July 5, 2014 at 6:29 a.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "tubby, do have experience with illegal immigrants?"

Yes...several as a matter of fact. Not only are they fine people, they turned out to be far more credit worthy than many white people I have attempted to serve. Fantastic customers!! Never had one illegal default on so much as one payment.

"You're such a pompous ass, along with being Captain of the All Liars Club."

Your opinion is absolutely of no consequence. I deal in facts.

And the fact is, YOU are a self-confessed, not once recanted, three-time CONVICTED child predator. That's the fact Jack...

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270586 http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270592 http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270593 http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270595

July 5, 2014 at 6:39 a.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "Your bleeding heart logic is illogical."

My bleeding heart logic is strictly my opinion and it has absolutely nothing at all to do with policy in this nation.

In other words, I have not the power to affect public policy when it comes to illegal immigration, unlike some of you people, who believe that you are in charge of all things.

I know I'm powerless.

Some of you must wear Superman or Batman suits all day long.

July 5, 2014 at 6:49 a.m.
fairmon said...

when asked....

"What other laws do you condone selectively enforcing or ignoring?"

alprova said...I could ask you the same thing. Some of the things you would do to other human beings are quite illegal currently.

I would do nothing that is illegal but would like to see some laws changed such as sterilization with a government funded abortion.

July 5, 2014 at 7:09 a.m.
alprova said...

So you believe it is legal to sterilize a female human being?

You do realize that Government funded abortions are a total myth, don't you?

No government is in the abortion biz, but you're free to prove me incorrect, if you can.

July 5, 2014 at 7:20 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said regarding illegal immigrants.. Not only are they fine people, they turned out to be far more credit worthy than many white people I have attempted to serve. Fantastic customers!! Never had one illegal default on so much as one payment.

Could that be because of their illegal status and the leverage it gives you? Failure to pay may result in their getting attention from the immigration authorities.

To pay you they have to be illegally employed therefore you are an accomplice in the crime even if the law does not extend to you.

July 5, 2014 at 7:20 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said...the border is not leaking like a sieve. This latest issue has been exaggerated to the hilt. We have been net-zero for several years now, and that has not changed. There are still as many voluntarily returning back across the borders as there are coming across.

That is not currently accurate with the influx of 65,000 kids and counting plus those caught and turned back at the border are now included in the homeland security statistic as a voluntary return which is misleading.

Those coming across by the thousands are not to be employed but will be provided shelter, food and clothing by a country that is probably in worse financial shape than the country from whence the come.

We can spend over a trillion in the middle east and north Africa but can't afford to secure our own border only because those in office do not want to.

Your opinion suggest you condone not enforcing the current law.

July 5, 2014 at 7:36 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said...

So you believe it is legal to sterilize a female human being?

It is not currently legal.

alprova said..You do realize that Government funded abortions are a total myth, don't you?

Abortions are not currently government funded but some special interest groups and some members of congress have advocated it.

alprova said...No government is in the abortion biz, but you're free to prove me incorrect, if you can.

I have never said there was. Planned parenthood is suspect but their accounting prevents knowing accurately how the money is spent.

July 5, 2014 at 7:41 a.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "Could that be because of their illegal status and the leverage it gives you? Failure to pay may result in their getting attention from the immigration authorities."

Surely you are not serious. The last thing illegals fear are immigration authorities. And if they absconded with a vehicle, all I would have is a name and at best, an International Driver's license number. A needle in a haystack.

No...the reality is that Hispanics are good people with good morals, most of the time, and this is true for a higher percentage of them than whites, these days.

There isn't anyone in the car business that would not love to sell to any and all Hispanics, if it were possible.

"To pay you they have to be illegally employed therefore you are an accomplice in the crime even if the law does not extend to you."

You're free to believe whatever makes you warm and fuzzy, but as a dealer, I am not required to check the legal or illegal status of any customer. I'm not even allowed to ask about their status nor am I allowed to make any official notations on any paperwork.

If they have the proper identification, which may include International documents, I am allowed to sell them anything they want, AND it is perfectly legal for them to register their vehicles in all states.

July 5, 2014 at 7:52 a.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "Planned parenthood is suspect but their accounting prevents knowing accurately how the money is spent."

That statement is patently false. Planned Parenthood has provided accounting very publicly for decades on where it's funding comes from, and how every cent is accounted for and spent, to ward off mythical charges like yours.

Enough private funding comes in to pay for augmented abortions for the poor and it is accounted for in monthly and yearly reports.

I repeat...there is no such thing as Government funded abortion and there never has been.

If anyone has proposed it, it is and always will be shot down.

Enough private funding meets the needs for those who absolutely cannot afford to terminate their unwanted pregnancies.

July 5, 2014 at 7:58 a.m.
rick1 said...

alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "tubby, do have experience with illegal immigrants?"

Yes...several as a matter of fact. Not only are they fine people, they turned out to be far more credit worthy than many white people I have attempted to serve. Fantastic customers!! Never had one illegal default on so much as one payment.

Alpo, you did not speak so highly of illegal immigrants in 2007 when you wrote the letter listed in the first link below to Congress. In fact you were also the first one to sign the petition. (See second link.)

Here are two of many issues Alpo had with illegals in 2007:

"We are concerned about the potential increase in illegal drug trafficking, illegal immigrant smuggling, as well as the substantial risks for our roads to become a venue of entry for those with the intent of harming Americans through acts of terrorism."

"We are concerned that Mexican drivers will not speak or read English with enough proficiency to safely navigate our roadways, thus an obstacle in being aware at all times, the rules and regulations that drivers of commercial vehicles are required to follow while traveling through the states. Having a working knowledge of English is a regulation that American truck drivers must be in compliance with at all times."

You don't give a crap about the illegals unless it benefits you personally. Like you said "Fantastic customers!! Never had one illegal default on so much as one payment." They did not benefit you when you worked in the trucking industry but they sure as hell benefit you in your Buy Here Pay Here car business.

Al has previously admitted to writing this letter, which also has his name and email address, which he has posted on this site in the past.

http://truckerabuse.blogspot.com/2007_05_01_archive.html?m=1

http://www.petitiononline.com/petitions/uscpp425/signatures

July 5, 2014 at 7:59 a.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "Your opinion suggest you condone not enforcing the current law."

Which law is that?

Would I ever want to see a law enforced that would refuse to allow CHILDREN a safe haven on this side of the border?

First...ask yourself why it is that children are appearing at these border crossings?

Are you so callous that you believe that they are simply coming here to willfully break a law, or could it be for a deeper, darker reality, and one filled with pure desperation?

You've got your life and $#%^ anyone else wanting to survive.

I repeat...I'm betting that not one of you morons bitching about the issue has been directly or indirectly affected by so much as one illegal immigrant in this area, and yet you are carrying on as if the end of your world was occurring.

I'm sorry, but I find you to be nothing short of idiots...end of story.

July 5, 2014 at 8:07 a.m.
alprova said...

rick1 wrote: "Alpo, you did not speak so highly of illegal immigrants in 2007 when you wrote the letter listed in the first link below to Congress. In fact you were also the first one to sign the petition. (See second link.)"

How many times are you going to post that? I have addressed it every single time you have.

This time, I'm putting it to bed.

First of all, I was a shining Republican back then. Goodness knows I am not on board with Republican politics any longer.

I CHANGED MY MIND!!! As a free American, I am allowed to do this, believe it or not. I found out that the Republican Party is a party of lies and purposeful misinformation.

My political ideals have taken a 180 degree turn and have remained so for about 6 years and counting.

Enough about what I wrote back then. I was a different person and quite deluded, as are most of you right-wing cheerleaders.

I found my way out. I became a person I can be proud to be today!!

I urge you to do the same. It's quite refreshing, I assure you.

July 5, 2014 at 8:15 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

^^^ Like I've said. A disingenuous liar. Consistently.

July 5, 2014 at 8:24 a.m.
rick1 said...

Al , you have posted on in the past that you stopped being a republucan during the 2004 Predidential election because did not agree with the patry supporting swiftboating of Kerry. Now you say you were a Republican in 2007 three years after telling us you stopped being a Rebulican

July 5, 2014 at 8:30 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Seems to me that Fat Alpy and his employer are getting well selling to illegals. I guess it takes a Friendly Village.

July 5, 2014 at 8:33 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said...

The last thing illegals fear are immigration authorities.

Fortunately that is not true. I do know several legal immigrants and they do not like those illegal and do not support amnesty for them.

July 5, 2014 at 8:51 a.m.
rick1 said...

Yeah, Jack, he is so caring and compassionite for illegals as long as they buy his cars.

July 5, 2014 at 8:52 a.m.
conservative said...

Mr.Anthony Provancher

alprova said...

Connie wrote: "You plagiarize! Challenge me if you dare, you have a record with me on that matter."

This I would love to see. Prove it you lying sack of crap.

July 4, 2014 at 10:24 p.m

================================

I am going to prove it.

I am going to repost MANY of my posts about his plagiarism

I am also going to post his own words about plagiarism in due time.

Again. Mr. Anthony Provancher, a known anti Christ has lied!

July 5, 2014 at 8:55 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Rick. Exactly. Wonder how many times he sells the same car. Repo man!

July 5, 2014 at 8:56 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova it appears you were not deluded but are lucid.

July 5, 2014 at 8:57 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Friendly Village Motors has instituted a simple policy due to a growing problem. At any time that your account is in default, if we are unable to successfully contact you for a period of seven (7) days, and depending on your payment history, a repossession order may be issued to protect our interests.

July 5, 2014 at 9 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said...

Would I ever want to see a law enforced that would refuse to allow CHILDREN a safe haven on this side of the border?

Are you making sure the people regardless if legal or illegal in your area have shelter, food and clothing? If any are without why do you insist on adding to the number? Is it because they are a potential source of customers or because others will have to support them but not you?

July 5, 2014 at 9:02 a.m.
conservative said...

GaussianInteger said...

"ConMan, with more of that right-wing idiocy. Think about it...do you honestly believe immigrants come here illegally to simply vote for "Demoncrats"?"

"You lie, a habit with you."

Where's the "lie" genius? I asked you a question. How can you "lie" when you ask a person a question. There is no lie in that line.

================

I NEVER made any such statement. Your question obviously contains the lie.

You have lied again!

July 5, 2014 at 9:17 a.m.

The welfare of US citizens takes priority over anything. That's the fed. governments number one duty. What do we have instead, a stupid congresswoman handing out lollypops to illegal aliens, and dems and republicans billing illegal aliens invaders as saviors of this nation and praising them for the their love.

You don't have to recreate the great wall of China, Guass. We can easily improve, and seal off our borders if we wanted to. A wall or fence is no big deal to build. This is 2014. It will have no affect at all on those who want to immigrate to this country the proper and legal way, zero. If illegal aliens build tunnels then that's another matter. We'll have to find a way to deal with that. But the government is failing to protect it's citizens.

July 5, 2014 at 9:40 a.m.
conservative said...

We could stop illegal immigration if we really wanted to.

A series of walls and fences would obviously stop most.

We require birth certificates and proof of residence to obtain a drivers license.

The same could be implemented to get a job.

Stiff fines or imprisonment for hiring without citizenship requirements.

There are many other things that could be done to stop most of it, we just lack the will.

July 5, 2014 at 10:05 a.m.
alprova said...

rick1 wrote: "Al , you have posted on in the past that you stopped being a republucan during the 2004 Predidential election because did not agree with the patry supporting swiftboating of Kerry. Now you say you were a Republican in 2007 three years after telling us you stopped being a Rebulican"

Sir, what I have stated is that the election of 2004 was the START of my transformation. The lies told about that man were just the tip of the iceburg.

But you know what? Believe whatever you wish. It makes no matter to me.

I spend way too much time defending myself against idiots like yourself.

I yam what I yam and that's all there is to it.

You're just an ass looking for an agenda.

July 5, 2014 at 10:10 a.m.
alprova said...

Folks debating my business model, I currently do not have any illegals on the books and haven't had for about a year, so you're just apouting nonsense, as usual.

I know every time I hit a nerve in this forum, for I become the focus of all attention.

Not a one of you can debate the issue, so you go for the throat of your opponent.

It's very pathetic.

I hope y'all grow up one day and start acting like adults.

July 5, 2014 at 10:24 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Repo Daddy says "Not a one of you can debate the issue, so you go for the throat of your opponent." That pretty funny coming from you Alpo

July 5, 2014 at 10:40 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

connie needs to read Lev. 19:9-10, 13-14.

July 5, 2014 at 11:30 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Border Patrol agent Hector Garcia on Thursday accused the Obama administration of “aiding, abetting and facilitating the smuggling of illegal aliens across the border.”

In an interview with CNN, Garza said the current influx of illegal immigrants is “organized” and “orchestrated” by the drug cartels. Additionally, he said the federal government is giving illegal immigrants a “free pass.” He said the feds are using the equivalent of the honor system in asking illegal immigrants to later report to an immigration hearing — even though the majority of them will never do so. I guess he's an Uncle Juan

July 5, 2014 at 11:31 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"I NEVER made any such statement. Your question obviously contains the lie.

You have lied again!"

Again, where's the lie? I simply reposted what you directed towards me. I am starting believe that you may be mentally ill. Have you been tested for dementia? YOU made this statement:

"Now who could possibly believe Owebama would deport future Demoncrat voters?"

I asked you:

"do you honestly believe immigrants come here illegally to simply vote for "Demoncrats"?"

IT'S A QUESTION, HOW CAN IT BE A LIE? I can hear the conversations at ConMan's abode:

ConMan's Wife: "Honey, would you like to go eat at the Waffle House?"

ConMan: "I'M NOT HUNGRY; YOU LIE!!!"

ConMan's Wife: "Would you like to go to Wal-Mart after church?"

ConMan: "YOU KNOW I LIKE TO TAKE A NAP AFTER CHURCH; YOU LIE!!!"

ConMan's Wife: "Bob and Nancy invited us over on Saturday night to play Parcheesi, would you like to go?"

ConMan: "YOU KNOW I GO TO THE DRAG SHOW AT IMAGE'S ON SATURDAY NIGHT; YOU LIE!!!"

July 5, 2014 at 11:38 a.m.

Jack, we're supposed to pretend that nothing is going on, and it's all for the best. After all nothing is too good for "dreamer"/illegal aliens. I think we should all go down to the border and help Sheila Jackson Lee hand out lollypops to the illegal aliens. How about we send thank you notes to the cartels, as well.

July 5, 2014 at 11:40 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

zab, the Left is so indoctrinated they can't see reality anymore. They dream of open borders, rainbow stew, and fee bubble-up. Funny if not so alarming. One Worlders Unite!!

July 5, 2014 at 11:50 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Fister, let's just shoot them all. That's the only way to stop them from coming in.

Of course, if Obama actually instituted an Executive Order that stopped illegals, you and Jack would be on here bitching on Obama is being too harsh on illegals and that we need to allow them to enter. And you'd whine and moan how he isn't following the Constitution.

July 5, 2014 at 11:58 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Gassy, sorry secure borders gives you so much angst.

July 5, 2014 at 12:04 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Folks like TheJackOff have to resort to straw man arguments because they are inherently ignorant. I haven't read anything here that would suggest people are advocating open borders. Everyone seems to want secure borders. The difference is in how the border should be secured.

Ignorant Right WingNuts seem to think a large wall and/or military intervention is the way to go about this. So much for "small government, fiscal conservatism". Just another example of Right WingNut hypocrisy.

A comprehensive immigration plan would work. The Dream Act would pass and would alleviate some of the problems the country is experiencing, but Right WingNut, Fuhrer Boehner took that option off the table. Right WingNuts bitch about the problem, yet they do everything in their power to avoid fixing it. It's a vicious, hypocritical, ignorant cycle.

July 5, 2014 at 12:24 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

^^ it's because the dream act would do nothing to secure the borders in the near-term. Simply a ploy to buy more time for more illegal immigration. Wise up jr. college boy.

July 5, 2014 at 12:41 p.m.
Easy123 said...

TheJackOff,

"^^ it's because the dream act would do nothing to secure the borders in the near-term."

Wrong. Undocumented immigrants are going to get into this country. A 100% secure border is a myth. There is no chance of that whether you build a wall or send the entire US military to the border. There has to be a plan for these people once they get into the country. That will create a more secure border. You don't want these people to have a path to citizenship because you know they won't vote for your Right WingNut brethren. That is your biggest fear.

"Simply a ploy to buy more time for more illegal immigration."

More baseless bullsh!t from TheJackOff. You and your ilk do not want to solve the problem. You just want to bitch and moan. It's what you people do best outside of being ignorant bigots. Whine, complain, obstruct, whine a little more, lose elections. In that order.

"Wise up jr. college boy."

There is no hope for you, middle school dropout.

July 5, 2014 at 12:54 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"Gassy, sorry secure borders gives you so much angst."

What's that line you use about "painting with a broad brush"? I have said nothing against "secure borders". But it's asinine to think a "fence/wall" is the solution to the problem. 60 miles of ocean doesn't deter Cuban refugees, so why would a "fence/wall" seem like such a great idea? You and Fister have also advocated sending troops/national guardsmen to the border. So then what? Line them up along the border every couple of feet? But you two have also said they couldn't shoot the invaders. So what's the point? It's like putting a plastic owl in your garden; it's scares the birds for a little while, but soon they realize the owl is not real. The whole idea of "secure boarders" is a fantasy. It's a campaign talking point. The only solution is to imprison those that employ illegals, making it impossible for illegals to find any employment. But for too long, the rich have profited off the labor of illegals. The GOP screams about "border security" all-the-while they have illegals as landscapers, maids, and working for slave wages in their plants/factories. You guys make it about "democrat votes", but the only reason 99.8% of illegals come to America is because they know they can earn a living here. They don't come here to vote for Obama or other democrats, that's just a strawman.

July 5, 2014 at 1:12 p.m.
Easy123 said...

GaussianInteger,

Spot on

July 5, 2014 at 1:22 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Gassy, I hear nothing from you guys about securing the border. It's all about love to you guys. I lived in S. Texas for several years and I can assure you we're talking about more than landscapers, maids, etc. Easy is a proven moron; never having done or seen anything except thru the eyes of a jr. college instructor or Wiki. But I'm surprised at you, Gasman.

July 5, 2014 at 1:24 p.m.
Easy123 said...

TheJackOff,

"Gassy, I hear nothing from you guys about securing the border. It's all about love to you guys."

Same old straw man.

"I lived in S. Texas for several years and I can assure you we're talking about more than landscapers, maids, etc."

What are we talking about then? You've stated absolutely nothing here.

"Easy is a proven moron; never having done or seen anything except thru the eyes of a jr. college instructor or Wiki. But I'm surprised at you, Gasman."

Same bullsh!t, different day. This is what you have to resort to when you can't offer an intelligent rebuttal. Your grand, psychological projection in word form. You know your academic accomplishments are severely lacking. And you know you would be mute if not for the Google search engine and Wikipedia.

College would have done you a lot of good if you would have actually made it that far in your scholastic career. And consulting Wiki a little more often might help you keep your foot out of your mouth. You did think Africa had emperors. That is just one error in the cornucopia of erroneous claims you've made.

There has never been a time where you weren't proving your status as a moron, Simple Jack.

July 5, 2014 at 1:29 p.m.
fairmon said...

The current influx of 1000's of kids, expected to exceed 100,000 soon, without parents are not coming here to find employment. They are being coaxed into coming here by the Cartels telling them the U.S. has started permitting immigrants and will provide for them then threatening the parents and charging the kids family to transport them.

We have one marine jailed in Mexico for accidentally arriving at the Mexican border due to a poorly marked road. He had a gun that he told them about and was arrested. Not one peep out of the U.S. government to free him while accepting illegals by the bus load.

July 5, 2014 at 1:50 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

juco Easy: Haile Selassie I, born Tafari Makonnen Woldemikael, was Ethiopia's regent from 1916 to 1930 and Emperor of Ethiopia from 1930 to 1974. Wikipedia

July 5, 2014 at 1:58 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Did I make that up, imbecile? Come back when you zits clear up, junior.

July 5, 2014 at 1:59 p.m.
Easy123 said...

TheJackOff,

"juco Easy: Haile Selassie I, born Tafari Makonnen Woldemikael, was Ethiopia's regent from 1916 to 1930 and Emperor of Ethiopia from 1930 to 1974. Wikipedia"

Middle School Jackie: What year is it again? Oh yeah, 2014. This was never about whether Africa HAD emperors. I stated that Africa doesn't HAVE emperors and you disputed that claim. You're moving the goalposts because you know you made a mistake. Your Wiki research, or lack of research, failed you once again.

"Did I make that up, imbecile? Come back when you zits clear up, junior."

You still haven't named any current, African emperors, imbecile. Come back when you want ANOTHER bitch-slap, coffin dodger.

Want to try again, moron?

July 5, 2014 at 2:05 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

fairmon 1:50 Dead On (spot on is sounds so very gay) Common sense in governance is gone. Maybe forever thanks to the Left.

July 5, 2014 at 2:07 p.m.
Easy123 said...

TheJackOff,

"Dead On (spot on is sounds so very gay)"

Another example of you proving your status as a moron and bigot.

"Common sense in governance is gone."

You and your ilk know nothing of common sense.

"Maybe forever thanks to the Left."

Nah, the Left is bringing it back.

July 5, 2014 at 2:10 p.m.

Exactly, Jack. This is ludicrous.

No, Guass, simply enforce the law, secure the border, and defend and protect US citizens. None of that is going in. Instead were giving out lollypops and praising them for their love. Just do what you're supposed to do. Our gov. is threatening those who bring up diseases that are being brought into this country. What other country would allow illegal aliens in with dangerous diseases? This is third world crap.

fairmon, you're right. Mexico won't tolerate anyone coming in their country illegally. That imprisonment of that marine is disgraceful. Mexico is issuing visas to central Americans so they can pass through Mexico to come here illegally.

Our BO led government is a laughing stock. US citizens are just an afterthought to D.C.

July 5, 2014 at 2:12 p.m.
Easy123 said...

zableedipsh!t,

"No, Guass, simply enforce the law, secure the border, and defend and protect US citizens."

The law is being enforced as it is written.

"None of that is going in."

Bullsh!t.

"Instead were giving out lollypops and praising them for their love. Just do what you're supposed to do."

Is that against the law?

"Our gov. is threatening those who bring up diseases that are being brought into this country. What other country would allow illegal aliens in with dangerous diseases? This is third world crap."

This is the same egregious lie the KKK was spreading 100 years ago. You cannot prove anything you're saying regarding these mythical diseases being brought into the country. It is a verifiable falsehood that the Right WingNuts are spreading to scare people into a xenophobic frenzy.

"Mexico won't tolerate anyone coming in their country illegally."

Myth.

"Mexico is issuing visas to central Americans so they can pass through Mexico to come here illegally."

Myth.

"Our BO led government is a laughing stock. US citizens are just an afterthought to D.C"

Blah, blah, blah, blah. Try again.

July 5, 2014 at 2:18 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Easy said, less than an hour ago, "You did think Africa had emperors. That is just one error in the cornucopia of erroneous claims you've made." Yes I did, Bunkie. Are you gonna believe your own post, or those lying eyes? Reading comprehension not taught at the little community college?

July 5, 2014 at 2:27 p.m.

fairmon, our gov. tolerates all kinds of crap coming from Mexico, guns, illegal aliens, military crossing over our border, drugs and this current foul mess, but we can't get one marine out of a Mexican prison who took a wrong turn. I bet if he a was transgender, gay, or a liberal activist he would've been out of that prion asap.

July 5, 2014 at 2:32 p.m.
Easy123 said...

TheJackOff,

"Yes I did, Bunkie."

I was speaking in the past tense about your erroneous claim on the Howard Baker cartoon. Did you forget to take your Ginkgo Biloba today or is your early onset dementia getting the best of you today. Stay with me here.

"Are you gonna believe your own post, or those lying eyes?"


Easy123 said...

Africa doesn't have emperors.

June 27, 2014 at 12:11 p.m.


TheJackDennis said...

Many examples of Emperors in Africa, sophomore. Are you high?

June 27, 2014 at 12:20 p.m.


I went on to ask you to name one. And you said I didn't say "current" African emperors, despite the fact that both Timboner and myself were talking in the present tense. You thought Africa has emperors. And when you looked it up, all you could find was an Ethiopian emperor from 40 years go. And you were caught out in another one of your many erroneous claims so you decided to move the goalposts in an attempt to keep yourself from looking like a dumbass. It didn't work.

Would you like to try again?

"Reading comprehension not taught at the little community college?"

That question would be more accurately posed to you. Along with questions like: Were you not taught to recall things you had learned/experiences or, in this case, previous statements you made? Did your elementary school not teach you anything about other cultures/civilizations before you dropped out?

July 5, 2014 at 2:32 p.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "I lived in S. Texas for several years..."

Isn't that funny? I recall specifically asking you, in this forum, if you lived in Boerne, Texas and you denied it. I guess that was another of your (hush-hush) lies.

Jack Dana Dennis also lived in Boerne, Texas.

You just verified, without any doubt, that there is a family tie that you do not want exposed publicly.

I knew it all along.

July 5, 2014 at 2:49 p.m.
Easy123 said...

zableedingfistula,

"our gov. tolerates all kinds of crap coming from Mexico, guns, illegal aliens, military crossing over our border, drugs and this current foul mess,"

Nothing you've just said is congruent with reality. All lies.

"but we can't get one marine out of a Mexican prison who took a wrong turn."

Another example of Right WingNut hypocrisy.

"I bet if he a was transgender, gay, or a liberal activist he would've been out of that prion asap."

More contrived, baseless statements from the mind of an idiot.

July 5, 2014 at 2:50 p.m.
alprova said...

All of the three stooges failed to rise to the challenge when cornered on the African Emperor assertion.

This is typical also, of those who find themselves unable to debate an issue, even one of their own doing. They run and hide, failing to admit their errors or ignorance.

The three of them are eat up with pure ignorance. It's almost become laughable to read their posts.

And to think Jackie holds himself out as an educated fellow. I'm sure he's educated alright, but to what, he has not demonstrated yet.

He knows how to entice children to do things online for his pleasure. Three times convicted for that. I'd say he's an expert now.

July 5, 2014 at 2:58 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

alpo, no you didn't. you asked me if I ever lived in some such texas...not what you just said. look it up. anyways, why would I want to five the liar royal any information? Hmmm?

July 5, 2014 at 3:01 p.m.

Jack, fairmon, maybe we just send Welcome Wagon to the border? Maybe BO will use his pen and issue an executive order stating US citizens must house and feed illegal alien invaders, otherwise known as "dreamers". After all, "our future rests with dreamers"/ illegal alien invaders.

July 5, 2014 at 3:04 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Alpo, yes, I've never lied on this forum. You, however, lie continually. maybe it's your used car background.

July 5, 2014 at 3:04 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Zab, good idea. Share the love.

July 5, 2014 at 3:06 p.m.

Yeah, Jack, they can hand out soap, chocolates, flowers, coupons and movie tickets.

July 5, 2014 at 3:09 p.m.

Jack, fairmon, maybe we should threaten Mexico by telling them that we'll deport all the illegal aliens that have crossed our border over the last few months, if they don't release the Marine.

July 5, 2014 at 3:16 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

zab, that would take action by The Messiah. Unlikely.

July 5, 2014 at 3:22 p.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "alpo, no you didn't. you asked me if I ever lived in some such texas...not what you just said."

It was EXACTLY the same town I typed today, and you know it.

You lied and denied you had lived there. You knew back then I was zoning in on who you were.

Today, you confirmed I was right all along. Thank you.

July 5, 2014 at 3:46 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

This is the wart's effort for Independence Day? Boy, TFP, you sure are getting your money's worth.

July 5, 2014 at 3:47 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"No, Guass, simply enforce the law, secure the border, and defend and protect US citizens."

Laws are "enforced", people are being arrested and deported on a daily basis. You (or any right wing pundit) have not given one viable way to "secure the border". If you honestly think about it, it is impossible to "secure the border". Look at the statistics, Fister. There is an exponentially higher chance for a crime to be committed against a US citizen by a fellow US citizen rather then by an illegal immigrant. Damn man, when you hear a rant by Limbaugh or Levin, you sure do take it to heart.

July 5, 2014 at 3:50 p.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "Alpo, yes, I've never lied on this forum."

There is not a soul on Earth who will believe that of you. You're a pathological liar.

If you are not Jack Dana Dennis, as you have tried to wiggle out of, but have not outright claimed, then you lied when you admitted to being the man.

You lied to me about not living in Boerne, Texas, when I specifically asked you that direct question.

You're lying about having claimed NOT to being Jack Dana Dennis. Not once have you offered a direct denial of being the man. Not once.

So which lie of many are you referring to, when you claim to not have lied in this forum.

I'd even bet your boyfriend, Z-man wouldn't defend you on that, because everyone knows you have lied.

July 5, 2014 at 3:52 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Never lied on this forum.

July 5, 2014 at 4:01 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Let's say a Mexican Soldier "accidentally" crossed the US border (even though the Mexican Soldier has crossed at the same checkpoint three times and had earlier that day crossed the border and checked into a hotel room before returning across the border to get his truck) with three illegal, loaded firearms in the front seat and 100's of rounds of ammo. Not to mention, the soldier passed through the "Nothing to Declare" line instead of checking in the arms at the border crossing. Would you guys be so quick to say he needed to be released without the case being heard in court?

These are the FACTS in Sgt. Tahmooressi's case. He was also breaking CA law by having those loaded weapons in the front seat of his truck.

July 5, 2014 at 4:02 p.m.

It's not impossible to make the border a hell of lot more secure. Nothing is 100%, but we can do better than laying out the welcome mat.

Of course there would be a higher chance of having a crime committed against me by a US citizen, because of the numbers, but that has nothing to do with with this mess. They shouldn't be pouring in and laughing at us.

You libs can spin all you want, there is no putting a good face on this mess. You can call them "dreamers", you can take if from what ever angle you want, but when the US border breaks down it endangers US Citizens. We matter more, period.

July 5, 2014 at 4:03 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Gassy, are you pulling for the Mexicans?

July 5, 2014 at 4:08 p.m.
Easy123 said...

zableedingfistula,

"It's not impossible to make the border a hell of lot more secure. Nothing is 100%, but we can do better than laying out the welcome mat."

No one is denying we can make the border more secure. We aren't "laying out the welcome mat" by any means. That is another bit of baseless hyperbole from you.

"Of course there would be a higher chance of having a crime committed against me by a US citizen, because of the numbers, but that has nothing to do with with this mess."

It has everything to do with your fear tactics.

"They shouldn't be pouring in and laughing at us."

"They" are doing no such thing.

"You libs can spin all you want, there is no putting a good face on this mess."

You Right WingNuts can spin all you want, but what you say means nothing. Your feigned indignation is laughable. Your old KKK tactics won't work. Your xenophobia and racism is easily observed.

"You can call them "dreamers", you can take if from what ever angle you want, but when the US border breaks down it endangers US Citizens."

Bullsh!t, bullsh!t, and more bullsh!t. More fear tactics.

"We matter more, period."

You don't "matter" at all. Period.

July 5, 2014 at 4:10 p.m.
Easy123 said...

"Never lied on this forum."

A bad case of denial from TheJackOff.

July 5, 2014 at 4:14 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Naw, Ease. It's your daddy that is the lie master.

July 5, 2014 at 4:19 p.m.
conservative said...

conservative said...

GaussianInteger said...

"ConMan, with more of that right-wing idiocy. Think about it...do you honestly believe immigrants come here illegally to simply vote for "Demoncrats"?"

"You lie, a habit with you."

Where's the "lie" genius? I asked you a question. How can you "lie" when you ask a person a question. There is no lie in that line.

=============================

I NEVER made any such statement. Your question obviously contains the lie.

You have lied again!

Now, I will ask you a question, a question I assume is a lie.

GaussianInteger, Do you honestly believe you can hide your Homosexual/sodomy convictions?

July 5, 2014 at 4:20 p.m.
Easy123 said...

TheJackOff,

"Naw, Ease. It's your daddy that is the lie master."

If Alprova is my daddy, then he's your grandfather because I'm your daddy.

You lie daily, Little Jack.

July 5, 2014 at 4:21 p.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis, you confessed of your own free will to being the man in question. It is impossible for me to lie about that which you refuse to own up to as YOUR own lie.

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270586 http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270592 http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270593 http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2014/may/18/ostrich/#c270595

July 5, 2014 at 4:23 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

You want a partial list of your lies, Anthony? Really?

July 5, 2014 at 4:26 p.m.
Easy123 said...

GaussianInteger,

Conservative thinks questions that prove his ignorance are a lie. He does this often. If you ask him to back up something he asserted, he will accuse you of lying. That's his form of debate. I encourage you to ignore the crazy bastard. Arguing with him is a fruitless endeavor because he is a deluded sociopath that is completely incapable of intelligent discussion/debate due to his altered mental status. Religion breeds ignorance and Conservative is Exhibit A.

July 5, 2014 at 4:28 p.m.
conservative said...

Mr.Anthony Provancher

alprova said...

Connie wrote: "You plagiarize! Challenge me if you dare, you have a record with me on that matter."

This I would love to see. Prove it you lying sack of crap.

July 4, 2014 at 10:24 p.m

================================

I am going to prove it.

I am going to repost MANY of my posts about his plagiarism

I am also going to post his own words about plagiarism in due time.

Again. Mr. Anthony Provancher, a known anti Christ has lied!

=========================================

I begin with my first exposure of Mr. Anythony Provancher's plagiarism

conservative said...

Alprova in echoing a heathen/Atheist/unbeliever's ranting on Wickenpedia wrote this regarding the writer's invention of a "Holiness Code":

"has no special traditional religious significance, and traditional Jews and Christians do not regard it as having any distinction from any other part of the Book of Leviticus."

Well actually alprova didn't echo the heathen/Atheist/unbeliever's lying concoction he COPIED it instead!!

Here word for word are the word's that alprova plagiarized from the Wickedpedia website:

"has no special traditional religious significance, and traditional Jews and Christians do not regard it as having any distinction from any other part of the Book of Leviticus" What a fraud! What a phony!

Perhaps alprova was so clueless and lacking of understanding about what he was reading that he thought it might be better to just pass his plagiarism off as his own words.

I'm sorry, I just can't pity or cover for such a deceiver who would so mislead others about the Bible, the word of God.

October 24, 2013 at 9:52 a.m

July 5, 2014 at 4:28 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Con says "Alprova in echoing a heathen/Atheist/unbeliever's ranting on Wickenpedia wrote this regarding the writer's invention of a "Holiness Code"....Alpo the liar lives in Wiki.

July 5, 2014 at 4:32 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Are the people of this forum supposed to take someone that consciously types "Wikenpedia" and "Wikedpedia" seriously?

July 5, 2014 at 4:33 p.m.
Easy123 said...

TheJackOff,

"Alpo the liar lives in Wiki."

You posted something from Wikipedia at 1:58 PM today. Another psychological projection? Hmmmm?

Bwahahahahahahahaha! And hypocrisy reigns again!

July 5, 2014 at 4:35 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

So? I utilize wiki at times. Your daddy lives there.

July 5, 2014 at 4:36 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Hey easy, how old are you?

July 5, 2014 at 4:36 p.m.
alprova said...

Connie, unless you can link to the Wikipedia reference proving I copied it, I state categorically that you are lying through your fingers.

Where's the link to the Wiki quote, you lying sack of crap?

Your word is not proof to a thing.

July 5, 2014 at 4:37 p.m.
Easy123 said...

TheJackOff,

"So? I utilize wiki at times. Your daddy lives there."

You have no clue how much anyone else consults Wikipedia. You're trying to throw shade at alprova for allegedly consulting the website, yet you copied and pasted from the same website today.

Are you stupid or just blind to your own hypocrisy? It's all a grand projection and every thinking person here knows it.

"Hey easy, how old are you?"

Old enough to bitch-slap you on a daily basis.

July 5, 2014 at 4:40 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Hey Repo man. You never answered. Do you have indoor plumbing in that hovel of a sales office at Friendliest Scammer Village Motors?

July 5, 2014 at 4:41 p.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "Alpo the liar lives in Wiki."

You know, you can't help but prove that you are full of lies today.

I don't believe I have been to Wikipedia in at least ten months.

But...as always, yopu are free to prove my statement to be a lie, if you dare.

Every time you key up with an accusation, it's as if you are looking in the mirror as you type it.

Is it just me, or does anyone else notice this phenomenon about Jack Dana Dennis.

You are an ace at projecting your own issues onto other people. In fact, you're an expert at it.

July 5, 2014 at 4:41 p.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "Hey Repo man. You never answered. Do you have indoor plumbing in that hovel of a sales office at Friendliest Scammer Village Motors?"

You're lying again. Go back and read my response. I answered your question in total.

When are you going to start answering some questions?

You NEVER answer any questions. Those you do, you lie about.

I specifically asked you if you had ever lived in Boerne, Texas, and you denied it. Turns out today, you have lived there.

You just sealed your fate and your true and self-confessed identity.

And anyone with a brain can confirm what I did, before your magical confession.

Oh...and by the way, you will not find so much as one online complaint about the business. Not one. That is not by accident. We run a squeaky clean operation and treat people like we want to be treated.

We have never scammed anyone of so much as one cent.

So $%&* yourself, you child predator creep!!!

Your image is unrepairable at this point. Nobody wants to have a thing to do with a child molester, and that you are and have confirmed it AGAIN!!!

July 5, 2014 at 4:46 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

What about that plumbing Stump?

July 5, 2014 at 4:46 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

You never asked me if I lived in borne, tx. show me the proof.

July 5, 2014 at 4:47 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Is it true, Alpy, that you live in public housing in Rossville?

July 5, 2014 at 4:50 p.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "Is it true, Alpy, that you live in public housing in Rossville?"

It is not. I live in a private residence.

July 5, 2014 at 4:55 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"Gassy, are you pulling for the Mexicans?"

Not at all, but you guys act as though the Marine made a wrong turn and ended up in a Mexican jail. I just wanted the facts to be out there as you and Fister are conveniently leaving out the details of the case. Last month, you guys wanted a soldier to die for allegedly going AWOL. This guy deliberately broke the law and you and Fox News want to give him the Medal of Honor.

"I NEVER made any such statement. Your question obviously contains the lie."

Bullsh!t. You are clueless, everyone can see the evidence for themselves. I refuse to argue with a moron.

"GaussianInteger, Do you honestly believe you can hide your Homosexual/sodomy convictions?"

I am married with three kids. You aren't going to score a date with me. Maybe you and Fister can hook up and get to the "bottom" of you problems? I'll pay for the room. There are also plenty of gay fantasy forums (you probably have them saved in your "Favorites") for guys to unleash their sexual repressions. You'd fit right in.

July 5, 2014 at 4:56 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

alpo, aka cyber gumshoe, here's a tip. There does appear to be a JD in borne TX. It would appear that he still lives in borne TX. What we have is another case of identifying the wrong guy. Hell, there's probably several more of us across the fruited plain. You really are a simpleton, Anthony.

July 5, 2014 at 4:56 p.m.

Guass, you libs can sell it all you want, and divert all you want from the issue, but the break down of country's border is never a good thing, and it is endangering US citizens by either disease, criminal action or possibly terrorism. To deny that is just plain stupid.

One Marine vs hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens over the last few months. Yeah, that's makes the illegal aliens invader situation look better.

July 5, 2014 at 5:01 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

So Gassy, Fox News wants the guy released. This is a bad thing?

July 5, 2014 at 5:05 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Tony. Good for you. Hope it's a step up from that last shanty.

July 5, 2014 at 5:07 p.m.
Easy123 said...

zableedingfistula,

"but the break down of country's border is never a good thing,"

The border is not "breaking down".

"and it is endangering US citizens by either disease, criminal action or possibly terrorism."

All lies. Egregious, hateful lies. Your KKK brethren would be proud, you dickless, xenophobic racist.

"To deny that is just plain stupid."

You're "just plain stupid" and there is no denying it.

"One Marine vs hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens over the last few months. Yeah, that's makes the illegal aliens invader situation look better."

Nonsensical drivel.

July 5, 2014 at 5:12 p.m.
conservative said...

Mr. Anthony Provancher now writes:

alprova said...

Connie, unless you can link to the Wikipedia reference proving I copied it, I state categorically that you are lying through your fingers.

Where's the link to the Wiki quote, you lying sack of crap?

Your word is not proof to a thing.

July 5, 2014 at 4:37 p.m.

===============================

Twice today Mr. Anthony Provancher has called me a liar.

This man obviously has nothing but contempt for the reader's intelligence.

This after I posted HIS plagiarized words on:

October 24, 2013 at 9:52 a.m

This was on the page entitled "Marriage Equality."

The man is a Brazen liar!

July 5, 2014 at 5:18 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

^^ no lie

July 5, 2014 at 5:20 p.m.
gypsylady said...

Referring to an earlier post about handing out lollipops to children. What the hell are we supposed to do to them? Go down the line and give each kiddie a slap. I have hopes that the adults in this situation can take whatever measures need to be taken, and that may include deportation, and still show some kind of class. We used to operate that way but a certain faction of Americans have forgotten the phrase, "We're better than that."

July 5, 2014 at 6:09 p.m.
tifosi said...

I just started reading the postings and stumbled across this:

LibDem said...

"You cannot bring hundreds of thousands of people into this country without destroying the country." Once the Irish arrived, it was all over for the ole USA.

Libdem hit a homerun with this one. The Irish were thought to be lazy, ignorant, lying drunkards. They left the inner city to escape persecution. Then they built the Eastern portion of the Trans-American Railroad. The Chinese built the other portion, after many Anglo-Americans headed for the gold rush looking for easy money.

Before that the Scot-Irish came over in the 1700's and were considered ignorant, funny talking trash. They headed out to tame the frontier and blazed a trail into Tennessee.

Today, ignorant people want to paint Hispanics (actually many are Guatemalans) as lazy, funny talkin' free-loaders. Actually they are they ones working jobs no white person wants - like working in poultry and meat plants, or building sidewalks in the blazing hot Texas sun. I have witnessed those hard-workers that just want to take care of their families. They too will make America a better place. Meanwhile the ignorant folks will fade into oblivion.

Check this out!!! http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3rvtz6

July 5, 2014 at 7:08 p.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "You want a partial list of your lies, Anthony? Really?"

Accusing one of lying and proving they have lied is two separate and distinct happenings.

I listed three lies you told and the proof.

You are in complete denial if you believe for one second that you have not lied in this forum.

July 5, 2014 at 8:19 p.m.

LOL look at all the contortions libs are going through to try and make an illegal alien invasion seem like it's perfectly fine, try and convince everyone that there's no point to secure our borders, that gov. is doing it's job, and that everyone who isn't happy about what's going on is a racist.

Cheap, easy, lazy racist card route.

It doesn't matter what their intentions are, it doesn't matter if they came here out of "love", it doesn't matter if they're "dreamers", and it doesn't matter what country they came from and what ethnicty they are, the problem is that they're not supposed to be here, and they're supposed to respect our laws. They're supposed to come in the right way. Countries shouldn't be dumping children at our border. Those countries should be heavily criticized and punished.

This is pure corruption and lawlessness on the part of BO, and both political parties who want to gain from this.

You mock those of us who raise the issue of disease, crime and lawlessness. You come across like a bunch of asses.

This is third world crap, and we're being led by a third world quality thug.

July 5, 2014 at 8:25 p.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "alpo, aka cyber gumshoe, here's a tip. There does appear to be a JD in borne TX. It would appear that he still lives in borne TX."

No he does not. Papa and Son moved to Knoxville, Tennessee some years ago from Boerne, Texas. Jack Dana Dennis committed his crimes starting in 2012. Three times he was convicted. The last was in February of this year. He is currently registered as a sex offender in Knox County, although it does appear that his address is currently incorrect.

"What we have is another case of identifying the wrong guy. Hell, there's probably several more of us across the fruited plain. You really are a simpleton, Anthony."

You'd have to be a complete dickhead to begin to float that one down the river. You're busted. You've been busted. You continue to be busted. You sealed your identity when you admitted to living in "South Texas" earlier today.

You are Jack Dana Dennis. This I know because you REFUSE to respond with the words, "No I am not Jack Dana Dennis."

And you and I both know why you refuse to type those words.

You know you'd really be busted.

July 5, 2014 at 8:27 p.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "Tony. Good for you. Hope it's a step up from that last shanty."

You have absolutely no idea what I lived in, or where it was located. You Googled an address tied to my name.

The fact is, that address was an empty tract of land, which is now being used to graze horses.

Do you really believe I would be stupid enough to allow my home address to be public information?

I'm not stupid like you. I know how to tweak settings online to retain the privacy I desire.

You will never, ever find my home address, especially now that I am disabled.

July 5, 2014 at 8:33 p.m.
alprova said...

Connie wrote: "Twice today Mr. Anthony Provancher has called me a liar."

I'm about to call you a lying sack of crap a third time too.

"This man obviously has nothing but contempt for the reader's intelligence."

You're the only man I know who can cut and paste a sentence twice and claim it plagiarized, without linking to the typewritten proof that it ever existed online to start with, and therefore was copied.

You obviously are consumed with stupid today, Connie.

July 5, 2014 at 8:37 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

No lies. Not one.

July 5, 2014 at 8:38 p.m.
tifosi said...

Get a room loverboys. You both are an embarrassment.

July 5, 2014 at 8:42 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "LOL look at all the contortions libs are going through to try and make an illegal alien invasion seem like it's perfectly fine, try and convince everyone that there's no point to secure our borders, that gov. is doing it's job, and that everyone who isn't happy about what's going on is a racist."

Setting all that aside, what do you really think is going to happen if you continue to rant about it? Do you really believe you are going to change a damn thing?

"It doesn't matter what their intentions are, it doesn't matter if they came here out of "love", it doesn't matter if they're "dreamers", and it doesn't matter what country they came from and what ethnicty they are, the problem is that they're not supposed to be here, and they're supposed to respect our laws."

And?

"They're supposed to come in the right way. Countries shouldn't be dumping children at our border. Those countries should be heavily criticized and punished."

Hey...why don't you write them a few letters? See what happens.

"This is pure corruption and lawlessness on the part of BO, and both political parties who want to gain from this."

Why don't you start a "throw the bums out of office campaign? Take it national. You might even become famous. There's certainly enough nuts out there like yourself. You could lead them.

But something tells me you're just gonna keep boring us here in Chattanooga with your idiotic rants.

"You mock those of us who raise the issue of disease, crime and lawlessness. You come across like a bunch of asses."

Hey...that's your personal opinion. Personally, I think you're about as stupid as they come and you're an incredible time and space waster, but that's me.

"This is third world crap, and we're being led by a third world quality thug."

Great!! Then you should have no problem renouncing your citizenship and picking a more suitable country for you and yours.

When are you leaving?

July 5, 2014 at 8:49 p.m.
alprova said...

tifosi wrote: "Get a room loverboys. You both are an embarrassment."

You mean like your embarrassment over unionization?

Mind your own business and you won't find yourself under the microscope as well.

July 5, 2014 at 8:51 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Sorry. He can end it.

July 5, 2014 at 8:51 p.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "No lies. Not one."

Really?

Did you or did you not lie when you claimed to be Jack Dana Dennis in this forum on May 18, 2014?

Either you did or you didn't. You cannot have it both ways or no way at all.

You made the claim. You confessed to being the man. It came from your own computer.

Which one is your intentional lie?

July 5, 2014 at 8:55 p.m.
tifosi said...

I can't help that your ignorance is getting the better of both of you. Stay focused Alprova.

Hey look.. a kitty.

July 5, 2014 at 8:56 p.m.
alprova said...

Jack Dana Dennis wrote: "Sorry. He can end it."

How can I end your intentional confession to being Jack Dana Dennis?

That's your baby and you are the only person on this planet who can bring the issue to a close, and you are STILL REFUSING TO DO IT!!

You like being a child predator. You have some very deep mental issues, confessing to being a person like that, and then trying to be someone else, without actually retracting your allegedly false confession.

You are sick, sick, sick...

July 5, 2014 at 8:59 p.m.
tifosi said...

I bought you a book Alprova. It should be there tomorrow.

http://www.amazon.com/Days-Less-Distracted-Child-Breakthrough/dp/1600940196

July 5, 2014 at 9 p.m.
alprova said...

tifosi wrote: "I can't help that your ignorance is getting the better of both of you. Stay focused Alprova."

I am hardly being ignorant. It would be nice if some of you would support me on this.

The man confessed in this forum to being a child enticing creep, convicted three times in the state of Tennessee. He has REFUSED to recant that confession.

Am I the only person not losing my sanity here?

It used to be a problem for an admitted child molester to socialize with others.

I don't see anyone joining me in chastising this admitted child molester.

Don't any of you have children? Do you know they are 100% safe from online creeps like Jack Dana Dennis?

Perhaps you can set them up to meet him, so he can wag his erect phallus at your kid for fun.

July 5, 2014 at 9:07 p.m.
tifosi said...

We all know how you feel. You have expressed it many times. I doubt that there is not one person on this forum that would probably do anything to protect children and their innocence.

Move on. It's a dead horse you are beating. You are better than that.

July 5, 2014 at 9:19 p.m.
alprova said...

Well then...explain to me why I am alone in this? Why exactly is it a "dead horse?"

The man confessed and has refused to retract that confession.

Why is this okay?

July 5, 2014 at 9:28 p.m.
tifosi said...

Good night Alprova.

July 5, 2014 at 9:31 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

easy is right about con-man. I, not alprova as best as I can tell (11:30 AM), am the one who pointed out the conflict in his position with regard to aliens and the Holiness Code from which he loves to quote to castigate "homosexuals." I'm not sure about his rantings but it suggests he is either suffering from dementia, doesn't read well or has been hitting the bottle too hard. In either case, he does not understand the nature of the three codes (how can a literalist refute that teaching in one case and uphold it in another, see for example, found also in Deut. 1:16, 14:29, 23:7, 26:5 referring to alien Abraham, and 26:11-12). connie deserves our sympathy he is caught in the middle of judaism and Christianity. Judaism is founded on compassion for the alien because the Hebrews were aliens in Egypt, the core of Godly compassion is shared human experience. It is a classic "if you walk a mile in my shoes" you will understand.

We probably shouldn't incite him lest he have a cardiac event. He may try to use even larger capital and bold fonts.

July 5, 2014 at 9:33 p.m.
alprova said...

Thanks for nothing tifosi.

I'm disgusted with this crap. I'm done with it.

You guys want to be BFF's with an admitted child molester....fine.

%$#*& me!!

I'm leaving this forum forever.

It's become pointless to try and have any serious discussion for quite sometime anyway. Everyone who used to be serious has moved on elsewhere.

Feel free to coddle the sick #$^#$.

I fear for your kids.

July 5, 2014 at 9:37 p.m.
Easy123 said...

alprova,

For what it's worth, I concur with your assessment of this forum and the admitted criminal known as "TheJackDennis", also known as "Jack_Dennis", "Rebus", "PlainTruth", and Jack Dana Dennis.

This forum has no hope when people like TheJackDennis, zableedofisterix, limbo, and conservative are the leading commenters. That crew represents the bottom of the intellectual barrel.

July 5, 2014 at 9:41 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

yes, by now everything that could be said plus some things best left unsaid have been repeated too many times.

July 5, 2014 at 9:46 p.m.
tifosi said...

You forgot to add Easy123 to that list... let me do it. :)

July 5, 2014 at 9:48 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"So Gassy, Fox News wants the guy released. This is a bad thing?"

It is when less then a month ago they were screaming about the Bergdahl release. They wanted him to die in captivity. You don't see the problem in that? They also mentioned every email from Bergdahl and even brought in some of his platoon members. Funny how O'Reilly and Co. have yet to mention the entire truth in Sgt. Tahmooressi's case. Yes, I think the guy should be released back to the US considering he is suffering from PTSD and needs treatment, but No, he is not a saint as Fox News and other right-wing outlets are attempting to portray. And also, I think they need to find out why the guy is riding around with three loaded weapons in the front seat of his car and all of that ammo. The Mexican Authorities, as much as you and Fister are lambasting them, may have saved some lives. Has that ever crossed your mind?

July 5, 2014 at 10:06 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

So long liars. You won't be gone long. Alpo, who's butt hurt now?

July 5, 2014 at 10:20 p.m.
conservative said...

Mr. Anthony Provancher wrote:

alprova said... Connie wrote: "Twice today Mr. Anthony Provancher has called me a liar." I'm about to call you a lying sack of crap a third time too.

=================================

That is the third time he has called me a liar.

Mr.Anthony Provancher is the liar for at least the third time.

Mr. Anthony Provancher plagiarized a portion of the Wikipedia.

Here again is my first confrontation with Mr. Anthony Provancher concerning his plagiarism.

Mr. Anthony Provancher obviously has nothing but contempt for the readers.

========

conservative said...

Alprova in echoing a heathen/Atheist/unbeliever's ranting on Wickenpedia wrote this regarding the writer's invention of a "Holiness Code":

"has no special traditional religious significance, and traditional Jews and Christians do not regard it as having any distinction from any other part of the Book of Leviticus." Well actually alprova didn't echo the heathen/Atheist/unbeliever's lying concoction he COPIED it instead!!

Here word for word are the word's that alprova plagiarized from the Wickedpedia website:

"has no special traditional religious significance, and traditional Jews and Christians do not regard it as having any distinction from any other part of the Book of Leviticus" What a fraud! What a phony!

Perhaps alprova was so clueless and lacking of understanding about what he was reading that he thought it might be better to just pass his plagiarism off as his own words.

I'm sorry, I just can't pity or cover for such a deceiver who would so mislead others about the Bible, the word of God. October 24, 2013 at 9:52 a.m

July 6, 2014 at 7:51 a.m.
conservative said...

Inquiringmind wrote:

inquiringmind said...

easy is right about con-man. I, not alprova as best as I can tell (11:30 AM), am the one who pointed out the conflict in his position with regard to aliens and the Holiness Code from which he loves to quote to castigate "homosexuals." I'm not sure about his rantings but it suggests he is either suffering from dementia, doesn't read well or has been hitting the bottle too hard. In either case, he does not understand the nature of the three codes (how can a literalist refute that teaching in one case and uphold it in another, see for example, found also in Deut. 1:16, 14:29, 23:7, 26:5 referring to alien Abraham, and 26:11-12). connie deserves our sympathy he is caught in the middle of judaism and Christianity. Judaism is founded on compassion for the alien because the Hebrews were aliens in Egypt, the core of Godly compassion is shared human experience. It is a classic "if you walk a mile in my shoes" you will understand.

=============

The man wrote this incoherent gibberish and charges me with dementia!

July 6, 2014 at 7:59 a.m.
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